Batman Beyond 2010 Mini (Hey BT, what's the deal?)

[coreysturg]

So what do you guys think... is this comic a continuation of the Batman Beyond story? And if so, is Beechen worthy of altering/adding to our continuity?

[suss2it]

Haven't read it yet, but I heard the characterization of Old Man Wayne is terrible.

[Yojimbo]

It's hard to make a rational conclusion when the mini-series is only half-way. But currently, I would vote "no." This Batman Beyond seems more like the DCU Batman Beyond that popped up before and now in various comic titles. While Beechen does honor various continuities and storylines introduced from the animated series and JLU's "Epilogue", it seems more anchored toward the comic book incarnation. I don't like Bruce Wayne and Terry McGinnis' relationship at all so far in this mini-series. I don't think nor buy that this kind of tension exists in a post ROTJ Batman Beyond. I bought issue one and now just flip through them a week after their release date.

EDIT: And Bruce Timm had nothing to do with the comic so not sure why he's being addressed in the thread title...

[coreysturg]

Beyond, no pun intended, terrible. He's written as a ******. Apparently the author doesn't get it. Bruce does care, he just isn't very good at showing it... but I'll inform you of some horrible misconceptions that are present.

1. Bruce threatens to shut down the suit if Terry doesn't respond... :confused: .... um... does "You are what makes Batman worthwhile not ring any bells Beechy-boy.

2. Jared Tate is like 12 years old in this and....

He is killed by this "Hush" fellow and Terry doesn't even mention he knows him, or seem to care for that matter

3. Cadmus is still around. I know this isn't really *explicitly* dealt with, but I imagine when Amanda Waller became liaison for the JL, Cadmus probably wasn't doing so hot since all they seemed to do was fail. But no, not only are they still around and up to their shady antics, but Waller still works there and looks younger than Bruce.

4. Terry's mom has black hair. Apparently, who cares that Terry is Bruce's son? Not Ryan Benjamin, the artist.

5. Tim's wife has red hair. Unless my recently re-saned friend here has got some seriously mad skills with the ladies, that he pop off one wife and scoop up another, another unnecessary mistake.

6. Hush exists. While not impossible in the DCAU, its very very very unlikely that some jabroni is going to be an effective Hush, if Bruce is too damn good at ruining his own life, which would be what is occurring when Hush would be around

It pisses me off because I don't think Beechen, who has clearly done no research, should be allowed to answer all of our remaining questions... who does he think he is? But if it is stand-alone: its much more tolerable as a book.

[coreysturg]

It's hard to make a rational conclusion when the mini-series is only half-way. But currently, I would vote "no." This Batman Beyond seems more like the DCU Batman Beyond that popped up before and now in various comic titles. While Beechen does honor various continuities and storylines introduced from the animated series and JLU's "Epilogue", it seems more anchored toward the comic book incarnation. I don't like Bruce Wayne and Terry McGinnis' relationship at all so far in this mini-series. I don't think nor buy that this kind of tension exists in a post ROTJ Batman Beyond. I bought issue one and now just flip through them a week after their release date.

EDIT: And Bruce Timm had nothing to do with the comic so not sure why he's being addressed in the thread title...

Yeah I agree with all that, and let me first say that I love DCAUResource and all your work there, Yojimbo. Been there since '06 or '07? About BT: I'm addressing him in hopes he'll come on here and say what he thinks of what they've done with his beautifully crafted IP, as he's been known to do from time to time (give his opinion, that is). I just can't imagine he'd be okay with it, it doesn't seem to respect the source material very much at all.

[Yojimbo]

Yeah I agree with all that, and let me first say that I love DCAUResource and all your work there, Yojimbo. Been there since '06 or '07?Well, thank you for that and yes, worked there since July 2004, owned it since May 2006.


About BT: I'm addressing him in hopes he'll come on here and say what he thinks of what they've done with his beautifully crafted IP, as he's been known to do from time to time (give his opinion, that is). I just can't imagine he'd be okay with it, it doesn't seem to respect the source material very much at all.Ah, okay. I see. But it's worth mentioning that, as much as we wish that's the way to get Mr. Timm to appear, he's not a genie you rub out of a bottle, figuratively, and nowadays, he's very busy being a living legend and all. I'm very sure that by the next panel or maybe even during the premiere of Superman/Batman: Apocalypse later this month, someone will ask him about it and one of us here will be sure to post a link in the DC animated comics thread. One medium inspires the other, sometimes it's a hit and miss...<cough>Jonah Hex<cough>...and sometimes it's gold. No matter how this mini-series does, I think the main lesson to take away is this will be the floodgate for more Batman Beyond comics and its further integration into the DCU proper.

[coreysturg]

Well, thank you for that and yes, worked there since July 2004, owned it since May 2006.

Ah, okay. I see. But it's worth mentioning that, as much as we wish that's the way to get Mr. Timm to appear, he's not a genie you rub out of a bottle, figuratively, and nowadays, he's very busy being a living legend and all. I'm very sure that by the next panel or maybe even during the premiere of Superman/Batman: Apocalypse later this month, someone will ask him about it and one of us here will be sure to post a link in the DC animated comics thread. One medium inspires the other, sometimes it's a hit and miss...<cough>Jonah Hex<cough>...and sometimes it's gold. No matter how this mini-series does, I think the main lesson to take away is this will be the floodgate for more Batman Beyond comics and its further integration into the DCU proper.

Yeah, I'm not really concerned w/ whether or not he actually comes, just threw it in there for wishful thinking, haha.

[Yojimbo]

Yeah, I'm not really concerned w/ whether or not he actually comes, just threw it in there for wishful thinking, haha.lmao! Yes, there's a lot of that here! By the way, welcome to the forums. :cool:

[coreysturg]

lmao! Yes, there's a lot of that here! By the way, welcome to the forums. :cool:

Very much appreciated, good sir! (but psssst... this is just a new username. I used to come on here all the time when I thought that the only nutrients one needed in a day were Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and GL) Ahh, the glory days of the DCAU... But it *is* a welcome back I suppose, so it still is very much appreciated.

[suss2it]

5. Tim's wife has red hair. Unless my recently re-saned friend here has got some seriously mad skills with the ladies, that he pop off one wife and scoop up another, another unnecessary mistake. I don't recall Tim's wife appearing in Return of the Joker, so couldn't hair and appearance be anything?

[Yojimbo]

I don't recall Tim's wife appearing in Return of the Joker, so couldn't hair and appearance be anything?I recall she appeared briefly during the scene when Tim saw the newsflash on the Joker's attack on the Wayne Enterprises party. Her back was turned and she was in the kitchen but you could see she was a blonde. I think.

But hair mixups always have a way of making me laugh, ever since that black haired Snapper Carr on Justice League. Didn't some fans even complain a little about Professor Hamilton's on JLU?

[suss2it]

I recall she appeared briefly during the scene when Tim saw the newsflash on the Joker's attack on the Wayne Enterprises party. Her back was turned and she was in the kitchen but you could see she was a blonde. I think.Wow, good eye. I haven't watched ROTJ in a while I definitely need to watch it again.


But hair mixups always have a way of making me laugh, ever since that black haired Snapper Carr on Justice League. Didn't some fans even complain a little about Professor Hamilton's on JLU?lmao wow are you serious? What's there to complain about Hamilton?

[Yojimbo]

Wow, good eye. I haven't watched ROTJ in a while I definitely need to watch it again.Yeah, I think it was blonde or dirty blonde. But a good enough excuse to rewatch ROTJ. ;)


lmao wow are you serious? What's there to complain about Hamilton?I forget why but on S:TAS, Hamilton (http://www.dcauresource.com/profiles/supporting/p/hamilton.php) had gray hair and on JLU, he had brown hair (and thicker framed glasses). The Internet's never a dull place to be.

[suss2it]

Yeah, I think it was blonde or dirty blonde. But a good enough excuse to rewatch ROTJ. ;)

I forget why but on S:TAS, Hamilton (http://www.dcauresource.com/profiles/supporting/p/hamilton.php) had gray hair and on JLU, he had brown hair (and thicker framed glasses). The Internet's never a dull place to be.

Nice plug to your website ;), and I don't see why people would complain the S:TAS looks very generic. But hey if not for complaining what would we do on the Internet?

[Yojimbo]

Nice plug to your website ;), and I don't see why people would complain the S:TAS looks very generic. But hey if not for complaining what would we do on the Internet?It was a subtle after post edit. :p

Exactly. The Internet needs us as much as we need it. Oh, the mullet.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

There's already a thread about this comic mini-series:

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270122

I basically think the comic stinks all around. If they were going to have this be a related continuation of the DCAU series, they should have done it with better research and the proper respect -- or at the very least got a better writer and artist.

Personally, at this point I'm much more interested in seeing Batman Beyond's Terry McGinnis being integrated into the real DCU continuity with Damian Wayne as Terry's mentor in the future (See Batman #700 and Superman/Batman #75).

[BeyondGotham]

The comic is roughly based on the animated series. It takes place on Earth-12. A little like the Superman / Batman Annual a few months back. They brought in aspects of the comic and the series to create this mini.

Sales have been good and there is a new ongoing series in the works:
http://www.batmanytb.com/news.php?readmore=1235

[Toddman]

Sales have been good and there is a new ongoing series in the works:
http://www.batmanytb.com/news.php?readmore=1235

I wonder what effect (if any) that might have on the possibility of seeing what Bruce Timm described as a "Batman Beyond reunion of sorts (http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/movie-news/2010/4/25/exclusive-interview-with-bruce-timm.html)."



Are there any plans to re-visit Terry McGinnis (Batman Beyond) in the future?

Not currently. But I wouldn’t rule it out in the future. We’ve definitely discussed having a Batman Beyond re-union of sorts, but it won’t be happening anytime soon if it does get made.

Of course that comment is pretty vague and could mean almost anything (a voice cast reunion for an unrelated project , etc. ...).


Toddman

[BeyondGotham]

The comic shouldn't effect any type of DVD movie at all. It's no different than Batman: Under the Red Hood, look at all the differences there. Superman/Batman is another good example.

And a new ongoing series really shouldn't effect a chance to see a DCAU comic. (not saying there is one) Look at all of the different versions of Batman there is now.

[Toddman]

The comic shouldn't effect any type of DVD movie at all. It's no different than Batman: Under the Red Hood, look at all the differences there. Superman/Batman is another good example.

And a new ongoing series really shouldn't effect a chance to see a DCAU comic. (not saying there is one) Look at all of the different versions of Batman there is now.

I wasn't talking about the style of story or continuity with any previous version, I was just wondering if the suits at WB/DC would be inclined to think that the successful sales of the BB comic might translate into a potential high profit for a new BB animated property aimed at a wider audience.

If so, I'd imagine they'll also be closely monitoring the sales of the BB DVD box set that will be released in November.


Toddman

[BeyondGotham]

Sorry for the misunderstanding. This is WB/DC. Who knows what they are thinking. I would think that yes, it could potentially allow for a new BB property, at least we can all hope.