Master Roshi vs. Uncle (iiieeeyaaaa)

[Kid Cloudkicker]

all right folks the title says it all; who do you think would win in a fight between DBZ's cantankerious ,perverted and sexually repressed sensi, verses JCA's cranky, cratchitey,crumudgen and owener of an antique shop, and art time sensi. and just to make it even uncle will be armed with 5 talismans to make it an even fight against Master Roshi's powers . so let hear it folks who do you think will emerge triumpant from this monster of a battle? :D

*and i'd like to give a special thanks to fellow toonezone poster Spyke for the idea for this post* :o

[Zorakfan]

Ya can't beat good ol' fashioned geriatric perversion.

GOOOOO, ROSHI!

[Mr. Obsession]

Uncle takes this one, easy. Giving Uncle 5 talismans doesn't make it fair, it stacks the odds in Uncle's favor, especially since you didn't specifically which ones he brings to the fight with him (just as long as he doesn't bring the crappy ones into the fight with him; balance of sprit is sooo going to help in a fight :rolleyes: )

Roshi has something like 500 years of experience, he's stronger than you're average human, and he's got the Kamahamaha. But unlike other major DB/Z characters he can't fly, he's not in the demi-god class when it comes to raw power, and he's not superstrong or superfast.

Bringing in the Dog talisman gives Uncle immortality and along with it everything he had during his youth, now were essentially talking Roshi vs. Jackie Chan.

Bringing in the Rooster and Rabbit talismans together gives Uncle super speed and supper fast flight.

Bringing in the Dragon talisman gives Uncle enough explosive power to counter Roshi's Kamahamaha.

Bringing the Ox talisman give Uncle super strength.


And those are just the practical talismans. If Uncle wanted to have fun with Roshi before humiliating him he could bring:

Monkey -- Uncle can change Roshi into what ever animal he feels like.

Snake -- Uncle has invisibility

Pig -- Superman style heat vision (kind of redundant considering the Dragon talisman, but it just gives Uncle another way to attack).

Horse -- instant healing

And, of course if Uncle knows before hand that he's going into the fight he can prepare some devastating Chi spells to hammer Roshi with. Or if this is a spur of the moment type of deal he could use one or two Chi spells that he's memorized over the years.


Go Uncle!

[RogueMartian]

You just proved that Roshi is a better fighter. Although Roshi doesn't have the "demi-god" status that the Z fighters have he still has a kamehameha wave, he is extremely strong, and extremely fast. Uncle needs at least three talismans to even equal Roshi, without them, he's nowhere near Roshi's level. But with 5 talismans, sure, he may actually win a fight.

[Kid Cloudkicker]

Originally posted by RogueMartian
You just proved that Roshi is a better fighter. Although Roshi doesn't have the "demi-god" status that the Z fighters have he still has a kamehameha wave, he is extremely strong, and extremely fast. Uncle needs at least three talismans to even equal Roshi, without them, he's nowhere near Roshi's level. But with 5 talismans, sure, he may actually win a fight.

i beg to differ my friend, he hasen't proven that Roshi is a better fighter but that he is more powerful than Uncle, and with Uncle using the talismans give him a level playing field. depending on which ones he uses.
but the one thing that i and everyone elese must figure out is which is the"smarter fighter."

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Kid Cloudkicker
i beg to differ my friend, he hasen't proven that Roshi is a better fighter but that he is more powerful than Uncle, and with Uncle using the talismans give him a level playing field. depending on which ones he uses.
but the one thing that i and everyone elese must figure out is which is the"smarter fighter." Exactly, it all comes down to fighting smarts. This is the kind of thing where Roshi's 500 years of experience comes into play or how creatively could Uncle use the Talismans he's got, especially if he didn't choose them.

Let's say that Uncle only had two of the Talismans: Dog (immortal youth) and Horse (instant healing). In a situation like that any of those nifty DB/Z tricks like Roshi's Kamehameha wave wouldn't be able to squat since they wouldn't harm Uncle and the fight would come down to pure skill.

With just those two talismans Uncle's made it a level playing field, and he's still got three more to chose from. The fight goes to Uncle.

[Koggit]

I'm not sure what a "Talisman" is, but it's not fair to give one fighter a weapon, or anything that will give him an advantage, and not give it to the other.

[B.W.H.]

Okay Roshi is a nasty pervert and an idiot AS uncle is a man that studied Chi Speels Uncle could easily kill Roshi by creating a Chi spell that would melt him. :D

[Meow]

I don't really know much about the "Jackie Chan Adventures" but I would think Roshi would win if they were fighting normally. Roshi's got WAY more experiance and has been deemed as one of the greatest martial arts teachers of all time. Let's not forget that he can also do the very powerful Kamehameha wave.

I guess if Uncle had some talismans he could win, but I still think Roshi'd have a better chance.

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Koggit
I'm not sure what a "Talisman" is, but it's not fair to give one fighter a weapon, or anything that will give him an advantage, and not give it to the other. Basically the Talisman's are magic stones (each one engraved with a figure from the Chinese Zodiac) that gives the holder of the Talisman magic powers. The Talismans were created by the Fire Demon Shendu to give himself greater power during ancient times when he ruled most of the Asian continent. When his subjects finally rebelled and defeated him the Talismans were spread all over the earth.

As far as the Talisman's go:
Dragon = Explosive Power
Snake = Invisibility
Horse = Instant Healing
Sheep = Astral Projection
Monkey = Shape shifting (you can also alter the forms of others)
Roster = Levitation (can be combined with the Rabbit for super fast flight)
Dog = Immortality (and basically eternal youth)
Pig = Superman esque heat vision
Rat = re-animation
Ox = Strength
Tiger = Balance of Sprit (if the Talisman is broken by the holder it can spilt them in to their yin and yang counterparts)
Rabbit = Speed


Originally posted by Meow
I don't really know much about the "Jackie Chan Adventures" but I would think Roshi would win if they were fighting normally. Roshi's got WAY more experience and has been deemed as one of the greatest martial arts teachers of all time. Let's not forget that he can also do the very powerful Kamehameha wave.

I guess if Uncle had some talismans he could win, but I still think Roshi'd have a better chance. But the point is by giving Uncle some of the Talismans the fight would be a bit more fair, and if anything more interesting.

Personally I think Uncle only needs two to win: The Dog and the Horse. If Uncle is immortal (with the agility, strength and stamina of his youth) combined with instant healing the fight comes down to pure skill. I mean Roshi can fire off Kamehameha after Kamehameha but what good does it do if it can't harm Uncle?

Besides those two the Dragon would give Uncle an attack that equal to Roshi's Kamehameha. The Snake would let him hide when he needs time to think or give him the opportunity for sneak attacks. The Monkey would let Uncle turn Roshi into a Chinchilla. The Pig would give Uncle another energy attack. The Rooster would give Uncle levitation (Roshi can't even fly). The Ox would give Uncle Super Strength. The Tiger would create two Uncles, if he purposely broke it in half, and while one probably wouldn't even want to fight the other would be coming at Roshi with every dirty trick in the book (along with the powers of four other Talismans). And the Rabbit would give Uncle Flash like speed (which Roshi couldn't match).



Uncle all the way.

[ccffan01]

Roshi of course he can use energy attacks and such.

[Sumi_Masen]

GO UNCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by ccffan01
Roshi of course he can use energy attacks and such. But with the Dragon and Pig Talismans so can Uncle.

Any special attacks Roshi can do Uncle can counter with the Talismans, and then some.


Go Uncle.

[Jowy Blight]

Personally I think Uncle only needs two to win: The Dog and the Horse. If Uncle is immortal (with the agility, strength and stamina of his youth) combined with instant healing the fight comes down to pure skill. I mean Roshi can fire off Kamehameha after Kamehameha but what good does it do if it can't harm Uncle?

Pure skill, Roshi has an amazing about of skill to be call the greatest martial arts fighter of his time. Also who says Roshi won't be able to take the talismans from Uncle and use them himself?


Besides those two the Dragon would give Uncle an attack that equal to Roshi's Kamehameha.

I don't think the Dragon could blow up the moon. Remember, Roshi can buff himself up, making himself stronger.


The Snake would let him hide when he needs time to think or give him the opportunity for sneak attacks. The Pig would give Uncle another energy attack.

Roshi can feel the Ki of others, I'm pretty sure he would be able to sense were Uncle is and attack him. Besides, Roshi has dealt with Invisibility before. The energy attack has to hit him to work, and Roshi can move a very high speeds when he wants too.


The Rooster would give Uncle levitation (Roshi can't even fly).

True, but Roshi can jump very high. He can also use his Kamehameha to blast himself into the sky.


The Ox would give Uncle Super Strength.

Roshi has super strength as well, so I don't think this makes much of a difference.


The Tiger would create two Uncles, if he purposely broke it in half, and while one probably wouldn't even want to fight the other would be coming at Roshi with every dirty trick in the book (along with the powers of four other Talismans). And the Rabbit would give Uncle Flash like speed (which Roshi couldn't match).

Roshi has fought with more then one apponent before and won. He's also done this againest people stronger then him and done fairly well. I guess this would be were his experience would be put to the test. As for speed, Roshi is very fast as well, so I don't think that would matter too much. If worst comes to worst, Roshi can allways use Mafuba, it would kill Roshi, but it would also trap Uncle in a jar forever.

I guess, it would be a draw in my opinion.

[Mr. Obsession]

But Jowy, you didn't comment on the one true ace Uncle would have -- the Monkey Talisman.

Uncle: Chinchilla!
Roshi: *transforms into a small South American rodent*

Fight = Over



:D

[Jowy Blight]

the Monkey Talisman.

Hmm, that depends. When the monkey talisman is used does it fire a beam that would turn the person into the animal? Or does it just happen after the animal is said?

[RockItShipper]

One thing, though... if Uncle came into the fight with some issues of playboy and Hentai Shoujo Doujinshi (dirty fan-comics about female characters).... he might have an edge over Roshi.

Personally, I'd like to see Muten Roshi square off against Happosai from Ranma 1/2... If only to figure out who's the bigger perv....

[Borg4of3]

Well, the Monkey Talisman can be dodged, and, even if you are hit by the beam, you'll still have basically all your powers. So, if hit, Roshi would turn into a super-strong, super-fast, perverted Chinchilla :p

New strategy: Some playboy and Hentai magz... AND the Rat (reanimation) talisman! Get Roshi to chase the living picture off the fighting stage and, bam, Uncle is the winner! :D

[DR. BELCH]

I'd like to see Master Roshi vs. the old dude in Wicked City myself, as I've said before.

What about the Jade Factor in Uncle's favor? Deceptively cute kid catches the old bugger off guard, then kicks him in the turtle shells. However, if either young Goku or Goten or Trunks assists Roshi, that'd give the Turtle Hermit an edge.

I've also pondered Cardcaptor Sakura vs. Chandu (even have a Ficcie at the Story Board about it) and the possibility of Li Showron training under Uncle along with Tohru....

[RockItShipper]

I think Jade needs a few years, given Roshi's umm fixation on post-pubscent women. He once said something like that Bulma and Chi-chi ought to switch names, because Chi-chi[means breasts] was flat when she first appeared

[Kid Cloudkicker]

Originally posted by RockItShipper
One thing, though... if Uncle came into the fight with some issues of playboy and Hentai Shoujo Doujinshi (dirty fan-comics about female characters).... he might have an edge over Roshi.

Personally, I'd like to see Muten Roshi square off against Happosai from Ranma 1/2... If only to figure out who's the bigger perv....

YES,...YES,...YES,.,!!!!!!THATS EXACTLYWHAT I WAS THINKING!!!!!, uncle's final ace in the whole or last resort, or trump card would have to be the use of "dirty girly books" if all else failed to turn the tide of battle his way, wouldn't you agree Mr.Obsession? :D :cool: :eek:

[Mr. Obsession]

Actually I see Uncle whacking Roshi upside the head and lecturing him about acting his age before he'd bring in the dirty mags. :D

Uncle: "One mooore thing!"
*thwack*

:D


All I know is that this match would be fun to watch. :)