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Heeroyuy_Batman
07-24-2010, 10:43 AM
After hearing the news coming out of Comic Con (All Star Superman, Batman: Year One, and especially that Young Justice takes place on Earth 16 of the DC multiverse) and other recent developments like Batman Beyond being integrated into the DC multiverse, I'm wondering if DC has some kind of grand strategy to strengthen the ties between their comics and animation? Perhaps even create one merged multiverse?

What do y'all think?

ichormosquito
07-24-2010, 11:08 AM
They don't have plans along the lines of what you're thinking, no.

What you are seeing is the result of last year's executive shake-up, where Geoff Johns from DC was put in charge of overseeing adaptations across various media.

Everything is more focused now, with direct guidance from the creative people at DC Comics.

Heeroyuy_Batman
07-24-2010, 11:22 AM
Maybe you're right. But wasn't the new Batman Beyond comic announced before the corporate shake up? And isn't it strange that Young Justice was announced to happen on Earth 16 (unless the report was mistaken)? Another thing that gets me is how similar members of the Justice League in YJ look compared to there counterparts in Crisis on Two Earths, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern: First Flight? Then again, this might all just be coincidence.

Blue Beetle
07-24-2010, 11:39 AM
I don't get that comment either, why make it take place in one of the 52 multiverses the comic has, 52 really isn't that many so why have this show take a slot? And something that isn't a comicbook and will be cancelled and never revisited. I'd hope he meant it just to clarify it wasn't in the DCAU or previous animated continuities and that was just a fun reference to an animated multiverse which I'd be happy was acknowledged but I don't like the idea of a show taking place in the proper comic DCU multivese.





Maybe you're right. But wasn't the new Batman Beyond comic announced before the corporate shake up? And isn't it strange that Young Justice was announced to happen on Earth 16 (unless the report was mistaken)? Another thing that gets me is how similar members of the Justice League in YJ look compared to there counterparts in Crisis on Two Earths, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern: First Flight? Then again, this might all just be coincidence.

I'm sure they are just reusing designs of the JL, though until contradicted I'll totally consider it in continuity. Same thing with WW and GL:FF, the designs are close enough that I consider them in continuity with Co2Es, heck maybe even SupermanDoomsday. The others clearly take place in their own continuity, but I figure any other solo DTVs not based on comicbook stories will feature the same/similar designs and could technically be considered to be in continuity. I believe I read a thread about DCU movies continuity this a while ago in this forum.

Superpan
07-25-2010, 10:34 PM
Uh, hey. I can explain this.

By Earth-16, he is referring to MY D.C. MULTIVERSE in which I said that events similar to Crisis on Two Earths occured between the Timmverse and another earth (Earth 13 and earth 16). The actual movie of Crisis on Two Earths takes place on Earth 32 and 33., with Earth 32 being the home of the Justice League, and the Earth that I think is where Young Justice is going to take place. That said, while I appreciate DC helping me conserve space on my timeline (;)), that's a fan-based timeline that I created and nothing is officially in continuity with anything else unless stated by the creators themselves. I highly doubt that despite the shared designs, we're getting the same actors or that there will be references to the events of the film (at least, I hope, since I have the film taking place at the earliest in 2018!)

Heeroyuy_Batman
07-26-2010, 10:56 AM
I'm sure they are just reusing designs of the JL, though until contradicted I'll totally consider it in continuity. Same thing with WW and GL:FF, the designs are close enough that I consider them in continuity with Co2Es, heck maybe even SupermanDoomsday.

Personally, I haven't seen enough evidence to put them all in the same continuity yet, but something is going on. Maybe they are just reusing the designs to save money or they just like those designs. Then again, maybe there's something more significant than even a new animated continuity. For one thing, if there is then because of CoTE this new continuity has a major link to the DCAU. Also, there's the Earth 16 link to the DC comic multiverse.

Maybe ichormosquito is right and it's merely Geoff Johns focusing everything. But when you look at all that's been happening in the comics and animation, you see a definite trend. I was thinking about this last night and I made a chart. Here's some of what's on it:

Comics
*return of multiverse
*Batman Beyond world & possibly entire DCAU- Earth 12
*Terry McGinniss brought into main DC universe
*many Silver Age concepts & characters return to prominence (i.e. Hal Jordan and Barry Allen)
*popular Elseworlds now part of new multiverse
*elements of Kingdom Come incorporated into main DC universe
*new Aqualad first announced for Young Justice animated series before appearing in main DC universe
*Milestone & Red Circle comics characters integrated into main DC universe

Animation
*DC Universe line of dvds
*Batman: The Brave & The Bold's Silver Age feel
*Jaime Reyes- B:TB&TB's Blue Beetle
*Worlds Collide rewritten not to be in DCAU, but still keeps many details from original script
*Young Justice to take place on Earth 16 of DC comics multiverse
*new Aqualad in YJ
*prominence of Hal Jordan recently
*CoTE, DCAU, B:TB&TB, and YJ all have multiverses or are part of one
*Batman: Gotham Knight in Nolanverse
*Tales of the Black Freighter- Watchmen tie-in
*Smallville animated tie-ins

Maybe these are all just signs of DC getting its act together. However, with the executive shake-up that happened, isn't it possible that the new execs decided to transform the general direction DC has been going in for the past few years into an actual strategy? Then again, maybe I'm turning into The Question. :p

A new thought has occured to me that I was kind of hinting and grasping at in my previous post. WW, GL:FF, JL:CoTE, and YJ using some of the same character designs wouldn't necessarily have to mean they're in the same continuity to have major significance. Just having them all officially taking place in the same multiverse would be just as significant, perhaps moreso.

Heeroyuy_Batman
01-11-2011, 01:22 PM
Here's another question for y'all: If DC Entertainment really has an overarching strategy, is it a good thing? I think it is, personally. Having seen "Independence Day, Part 1" of Young Justice, I think it's clear its creators have an overall plan for the series and I'm really excited to see it play out. I hope I'm right and there is some strategy to bring the comics medium and the animated medium closer together.

Raidon Makoto
01-12-2011, 03:41 PM
I'm sure they are just reusing designs of the JL, though until contradicted I'll totally consider it in continuity. Same thing with WW and GL:FF, the designs are close enough that I consider them in continuity with Co2Es, heck maybe even SupermanDoomsday. The others clearly take place in their own continuity, but I figure any other solo DTVs not based on comicbook stories will feature the same/similar designs and could technically be considered to be in continuity. I believe I read a thread about DCU movies continuity this a while ago in this forum.
That's because they all had the same Character Designer.

the greenman
01-12-2011, 04:23 PM
I would like to think there is, but odds are no. The fact that they are going to use mostly Bats, Supes, and JL repeatedly, I don't think they can. Until they (DC Ent) loosens up and allows other characters and stories, I can't buy into that theory.

suss2it
01-12-2011, 06:19 PM
That's because they all had the same Character Designer.

That's not true. Lynell Hakim Forestall & Lauren Montgomery did the character designs for Wonder Woman, Jose Lopez, Walter Gatus, Lauren Montgomery & Thomas Perkins did the character designs for Green Lantern: First Flight, Phil Bourassa, Dusty Abell, Jerome Moore & Jon Suzuki did them for Crisis on Two Earths.

Each of those films had quite the different character designers, with Lauren Montgomery doing some work on the two movies she directed.


I would like to think there is, but odds are no. The fact that they are going to use mostly Bats, Supes, and JL repeatedly, I don't think they can. Until they (DC Ent) loosens up and allows other characters and stories, I can't buy into that theory.

Hopefully Green Lantern is successful enough to convince Warner Bros. they have other DC Comics franchises that have the potential to be successful. Since the Harry Potter franchise is finishing soon, they'll be looking for a new franchise to take it's place, here's hoping they look at DC.

Gilgamesh
01-12-2011, 06:28 PM
I'm sure they are just reusing designs of the JL, though until contradicted I'll totally consider it in continuity.

Why?

Heeroyuy_Batman
06-14-2011, 06:49 PM
With the news of the emergence of Wildstorm characters in the post-Flashpoint rebooted DCU and the cameo of several other media Batmen in the Batman: Brave and the Bold episode "Night of the Batmen" proving that those Batmen's universes all are part of a larger multiverse (or would omniverse be a better description), I've decided to revive this thread. What are your thoughts? Is this just a coincidence or is there a strategy at work?