"DC Comics Premiere Movie" Animated Features News & Discussion Thread, Part 6 (Spoilers)

[James Harvey]

Welcome to the "DC Comics Premiere Movie" Animated Features News & Discussion Thread, Part 6 (Spoilers), where you can talk about all of DC's upcoming Direct-to-Videos animated features! With a host of DC Comics DTVs on the way, stayed tuned for trailers, interviews, images, reviews, and so much more!



Superman vs. The Elite
Coming Summer 2012 to Blu-ray and DVD!

Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Part One
Coming 2012 to Blu-ray and DVD!

Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Part Two
Coming 2013 to Blu-ray and DVD!

To check out the newest information, look for the newest post in this thread for any updates. For more news and the latest information on what DC Animation is coming, check out the links below:

-The World's Finest News Page (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/main.php)

Archived Threads:
-The Official DC Animated DTV News & Speculation Thread, Part 5 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=232303)
-The Official DC Animated DTV News & Speculation Thread, Part 4 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=162004)
-The Official DC Animated DTV News & Speculation Thread, Part 3 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=195962)
-The Official DC Animated DTV News & Speculation Thread, Part 2 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=189304)
-The Official DC Animated DTV News & Speculation Thread, Part 1 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=170913)

Post Your Thoughts! (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=189304)

Related Thread:
-The "DC Universe Animated Shorts" News & Discussion Thread (Spoilers) (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=232213)

Note: Once a DTV title is officially announced, it will be spun off into its own thread. Even if a title has been confirmed as in production, we will wait until an official announcement before creating a thread for said title.

Note #2: DC Universe Animated Original Movie line rebranded DC Comics Premiere Movie.

Want to know what Marvel Animation DTVs are coming? Click here (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=233200) for more!

[Yojimbo]

Mod Note: Discussion continued from The Official DC Animated DTV News & Speculation Thread, Part 5 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=232303).


I saw this on Batman-On-Film:

Animated BATMAN: YEAR ONE Release Date?
Posted by Jett @ 12:15 PM on Thursday, June 10, 2010
BOF has been told that the release date for the upcoming BATMAN: YEAR ONE animated film will be TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2011. This is an unofficial official confirmation. Stay tuned for the official official confirmation.Definitely a legitimate date since Superman/Batman: Public Enemies came out on September 29, 2009 and it looks like Superman/Batman: Apocalypse will follow with September 27, 2010 if I were a betting man.


Wasn't it true that WMV were planning 4 DTVs per year?Yes, Lauren Montgomery states this on a past video interview this year with the site that cannot be named. So far we only know of one confirmed title as Dreyfus stated, the Green Lantern one in June 2011 to accompany the live action movie (like with Dark Knight and Gotham Knight).


Batman in late 2011 makes me think possibly a Superman solo in early 2011. Wasnt there a rumor of a Superman solo in the works a while back? Yes, there were a few. At one time, we thought it was an adaptation of Red Son but James Harvey managed to confirm it was one of those motion comics. Then there was the alleged online survey that posted the Lost City of Krypton synopsis. Third, during a Crisis on Two Earths panel, Dwayne McDuffie, when asked about his future DC Universe projects cryptically said it would be "a super good time," leading many to assume one of them would be a Superman movie.


Update: The site that cannot be named is reporting that Sam Liu and Lauren Montgomery will be co-directing Batman: Year One.So now it's a team up, hmm. Not sure if that's a good idea anymore after seeing Public Enemies a few times...but I can understand if they are both doing a lot of projects at once with 4 movies a year and who knows if they're directing on any of the 2 upcoming animates series.

[Dreyfus]

So now it's a team up, hmm. Not sure if that's a good idea anymore after seeing Public Enemies a few times...but I can understand if they are both doing a lot of projects at once with 4 movies a year and who knows if they're directing on any of the 2 upcoming animates series.

Why might it not be a good idea? Wasn't Public Enemies directed by Sam Liu alone?
James Harvey, you left off the letter "W" on your post.

Mod Note: Thanks for all the catches and help, folks! Much appreciated!

[Yojimbo]

Why might it not be a good idea? Wasn't Public Enemies directed by Sam Liu alone?
James Harvey, you left off the letter "W" on your post.Yeah, the dual directing was Crisis on Two Earths, disregard. :p

[tenderheartbear]

Message deleted as question now answered.

Many thanks.

[Yojimbo]

Stumbled on this snippet while I was re-listening to a Phil LaMarr interview from the Wizard Anaheim Comic Con on April 26, 2010. While the folks asked him about if he would do work on those DC Universe movies, at the 20 minute, 20 second mark, LaMarr revealed:

"I did work for Andrea [Romano] and Bruce [Timm] on a new Batman DVD."

Link: Realm Cast interview (http://therealmtoys.com/wordpressorg/5184/exclusive-realmcast-interview-phil-lamarr/)

Looks like this might have been the first bit about Batman: Year One that may have turned up unless it was one of the other ones with Batman in it.

[Dreyfus]

He could possibly voice Commissioner Loeb.

[Yojimbo]

He could possibly voice Commissioner Loeb.True, but only if they decide to keep him black from the Nolanverse version. In the original story, I seem to remember he was white and undoubtedly connected to Falcone. In the Nolan movies, it was pretty ambiguous, I think he just against any and all vigilantes. Ah, just a nitpick. ;)

EDIT: Eh, this sounds borderline racist on my part. I'm just stoked that LaMarr is doing animated DC work again.

[Time Wizard]

SO much cool stuff coming from DC, but I'm so far behind....:sad: I've only seen Wonder Woman and Superman Doomsday....

[Dreyfus]

That interview with Bruce Timm made mention of all the recent rumors. Some are true, some are not. Guess we'll just have to wait until SDCC for more information.

Mod Note: View interview here (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php/news.php?action=fullnews&id=778).

Think McFly Think responds to Bruce Timm's statements.
http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/movie-news/2010/6/23/the-bruce-timm-interview-that-was-then-wasnt.html

[Yojimbo]

I almost missed this today! On today's World's Finest, there was a small side piece on the Gotham Knight Teletoon one:


In related news, Warner Home Video has recently issued several new titles for upcoming home video releases from the studio. The following titles added to Warner Home Video's upcoming slate of releases, in relation to upcoming related animated projects, include Green Lantern: Emerald Knights, Batman: Year One and Superman/Batman: Apocalypse. DC Showcase is still listed by Warner Home Video as an upcoming title. Titles Batman & Superman 75th Anniversary Collection and DC 75th Anniversary Theme Compilation are also listed, but there is no designation on whether these releases are live-action or animated. Warner Home Video is also producing a documentary on the 75th anniversary of DC Comics. Stay tuned for further updates here soon at The World's Finest.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php/news.php?action=fullnews&id=781

A name for the untitled Green Lantern movie and confirmation on Batman: Year One?! :cool:

[W.C.Reaf]

Think McFly Think responds to Bruce Timm's statements.
http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/movie-news/2010/6/23/the-bruce-timm-interview-that-was-then-wasnt.html

WTH? Does that guy not actually get it? He didn't have an interview with Timm he just asked a few questions at a con panel and cut some of the answers down removing the context.

I'm not sure why he thinks we should believe him when it's his word against Bruce Timm's. A fan with a website or the guy in charge of the DC DTVs, hmmm that's a toughie. :p

[Primal Slayer]

If all the speculated films do come through as legit, while I enjoy those stories I am going to be dissapointed that Green lantern will be the only non Superman or Batman film coming out in the next year 1/2.

[Callonme]

I've been thinking of good Superman stories to adapt. Brainiac is definitely one and I hope that is coming. The other obvious candidate is All-Star Superman. I would love to see it, but can it be successfully condensed? New Frontier is a similarly large work and it's adaptation was certainly a herculean effort with pretty good results. All-Star Superman is more focused character-wise but is similarly episodic in story format. I think it could definitely be turned into a fantastic animated feature and I hope that those in charge of these movies are considering it.

Some other ideas:

- A reworking of Our Worlds at War could be an epic Superman-focused movie.

- Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? would make for a great double feature with The Killing Joke.

- Superman for All Seasons is a beautiful story that could easily be adapted.

That's all I could come up with actually. I stuck to collected and readily available stories as it seems obscure runs probably wouldn't be considered for adaptation. Since we've got a lot of Superman and Batman coming our way, I thought it would be fun to discuss the stories most fit for the animated treatment. Any other ideas, guys?

[Dreyfus]

- Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?

I think those choices would be interesting to see, but I'm unsure of how well some of the Alan Moore stuff would work. I always felt that story adaptations are chosen because they have the right elements that will lend themselves to animated treatment, and that some of the Alan Moore stories thrown out there would not fit that criteria because they deal with almost metatextual concepts as opposed to the more straightforward storyline you might see in other adaptations, especially Whatever Happened to the Man of Tommorow?. I think it would be great to see Whatever Happened to the Man of Tommorow? and I think it has a decent chance of being animated, strictly on the basis of its place as a classic and heartfelt Superman story, but I'm not so sure that it would be my first choice for a DC Universe Animated Original Movie.

[AviTrek]

I think the recent Superman and the Legion of Superheroes would work better as a movie than Braniac. The plot just felt more cinematic. The Braniac arc was ok, but I just didn't feel like it was anything special that makes me want to see it animated.

[SaBaWoJuLe]

Really thinking about this, the Superman stories I like to see adapted are:

- Superman For All Seasons
(beautiful story, stable for Superman, easy to adapt, if you're doing Batman Year One, why not do the Superman: Year One?)

- Superman: For Tomorrow
(I personally feel this is an underrated story that suffered because it wasn't meant to be read as issues, but together as one. It's mainly about Superman thinking about what would to Earth if it faced the same fate as Krypton, and the reaction of Superman's actions.)

- Superman: Last Son
(What Superman Returns should've been, even down to the kid. Wouldn't it be great to see Superman and his son, Zod, Ursa, and Non, Luthor and the Superman Revenge Squad, rampaging kryptonians, all in a DTV?)

- Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes
(I mainly pick this instead of Brainiac (I'll explain below), but this story brought back Superboy (though still hidden in the panels, to which the DTV won't have to do that). It stays with the influence of Superman, and what would happen in the long run pass Superman's time, and what-if someone tampered with it.)

- Superman: Brainiac
(A very good storyline like anything else Geoff Johns has done, with an importance which was that it led towards New Krypton. But if you take it out, it still would work regardless, and instead be about the importance of Brainiac's role as one of Superman's main enemies. But if there is one thing I'm not sure about, its Brainiac in the upcoming live-action film; you don't know what they are looking at for reference, but chances are it might be this one. And if so, they may not want this close to, if not at, the same time as the live-action film's release. But overall, this is a great storyline to read and hopefully see. BTW, despite what AviTrek said; it is cinematic, complete with a race to stop the doomsday clock sequence(s).)

- All Star Superman
(do I have to explain why I want this ne? I mean really...)

- Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?
(if All Star is too hard, then this other classic last story of Superman would be something to see.)

Now, on Wonder Woman, and really thinking about this again, there is only one I want to be adapted that would be considered "safe" during this time in the DC DTVs, and it's this one:

- Wonder Woman, Greg Rucka's run

Basically, a DTV based on Rucka's run, to which the main story would be Eyes of the Gorgun, but I said Rucka's name anyway so we can see what can be used from various arcs and not just that one. Now, what makes this safe is also what makes this worth making: it shows Diana's place in the DCU; which means, like the comic, it has Superman, Batman, Flash, and the JLA. We can have Superman helping Diana and her embassy, we can have the scene from Down to Earth where Diana and Flash argue over the forest fire, Batman could have a role where he is asked for help by Diana, but for the DTV version, in helping Diana uncover who is behind the movements against her (for story purposes), and finally, in order to see if she can still fight despite her blindness, we can have the WW vs. JLA fight.

Oh, and if b.t. is reading this, if you need help, contact me! I need a big break of one, but two, I know how to figure this out for DTV form, just as much as I figured out how to translated The Long Halloween (and not just that one) in DTV as well. Enough so that if I were to piutch it to you, you would be surprised that you probably never even though about doing it that way.

So for some reason it cannot be done, then this Wonder Woman story would be a safe one:

- Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia

Perfectly-done story about Diana and where she comes from, with a team-up with a certain...Dark Knight. Even that would be a safew bet to pitch, right?

Other stories? Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman: Trinity (the Wagner mini-series), I want to see Flash (like to see the Flash family), more Green Lantern (Sinestro Corps War!!!), Hawkworld, Shazam!, and I know there's more like anyone of us.

I also have a personal pitch which is an anthology based on DC's famous....well I'am scared to say.

So that's it!

P.S. remember me, b.t.

[Manhunter]

Batman: The Player on The Other Side

Black Lightning

The Manhunter Saga (which I'm embarrassed to have never suggested until now, given my username)

[Primal Slayer]

They should do a Trinity story, if its an adaption or original movie.

But if they want to do more Superman/Batman movies, then atleast do stories where other heroes who arent S or B guest star and have supporting roles.

[SSJBatman]

They should do a Trinity story, if its an adaption or original movie.

But if they want to do more Superman/Batman movies, then atleast do stories where other heroes who arent S or B guest star and have supporting roles.
This.

I love the trinity D:

[Callonme]

Great ideas, everyone! Matt Wagner's Trinity would be a fantastic choice, as would Geoff Johns' Superman/LoSH arc.

Some JLA choices:

Cosmic Odyssey - Not a JLA story per se, but it's got most of the main players and some jaw-dropping moments. This could be a real runaway hit!

Grant Morrison/Mark Waid's Run - New World Order, Rock of Ages and Tower of Babel would make great movies. Each are exciting and relatively self-contained stories. JLA: One Million is also a great story. Despite it's massive amount of tie-ins, only a few issues were actually pertinent to the plot. And the story itself is relatively focused.

JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice - Hugely fun, straightforward story with a big cast of characters.

JLA: The Nail - It's an Elseworlds, but such a great, unique story.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Cosmic Odyssey - Not a JLA story per se, but it's got most of the main players and some jaw-dropping moments. This could be a real runaway hit!



I've been pushing for Cosmic Odyssey for a long while now. I really hope to see this one day --- In Mignola style! Yeah!

[Garada]

I've been pushing for Cosmic Odyssey for a long while now. I really hope to see this one day --- In Mignola style! Yeah!

I've mentioned this myself, and would LOVE to see Cosmic Odyssey animated. It's a no-brainer!

[GohanWinner]

Is it too much to ask for a good Flash movie?

[SKDarkDragon]

I've got no problem with lots of Batman movies, but I kind of wish the movies would include other characters besides just Batman and a couple of villains, or Batman/Superman and villains. :sad: My favorite characters tend to be the "other heroes" of the Batman verse (Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl, etc.), and I think it would be neat to have them at least appear in the Batman movies. I mean, I'm thrilled we've got Nightwing in the newest DTV, but that seems to be an exception rather than the norm.

Batman/Superman teamups just don't appeal to me, and Batman: Year One sounds really similar to the current live-action movies, with just Batman starting out and going solo. I mean, Batman's cool and all on his own, but I think including the other heroes can only make the stories more interesting. (When done correctly, of course.)

And personally, I think any of the "Year One" titles for the aforementioned "other heroes" would make good DTVs. They're self-contained for the most part, and all of them still feature Batman. It's a shame they didn't want to go with the one for Batgirl, as the "Year One" title is one of my favorite graphic novels.

[dtemplar]

Stumbled on this snippet while I was re-listening to a Phil LaMarr interview from the Wizard Anaheim Comic Con on April 26, 2010. While the folks asked him about if he would do work on those DC Universe movies, at the 20 minute, 20 second mark, LaMarr revealed:

"I did work for Andrea [Romano] and Bruce [Timm] on a new Batman DVD."

Link: Realm Cast interview (http://therealmtoys.com/wordpressorg/5184/exclusive-realmcast-interview-phil-lamarr/)

Looks like this might have been the first bit about Batman: Year One that may have turned up unless it was one of the other ones with Batman in it.

No, he'll be in Batman: Under the Red Hood.

[Yojimbo]

No, he'll be in Batman: Under the Red Hood.Thanks, yeah, just saw the cast list over on World's Finest. I'm all for him doing more DCU movies.

[dtemplar]

Thanks, yeah, just saw the cast list over on World's Finest. I'm all for him doing more DCU movies.

Maybe Timm would cast LaMarr as John Stewart in Green Lantern: Emerald Knights.

[Yojimbo]

Is it too much to ask for a good Flash movie?Heck no. But probably not until the live action one gets greenlit, depending on the success of this upcoming Green Lantern live action movie.


Maybe Timm would cast LaMarr as John Stewart in Green Lantern: Emerald Knights.Wouldn't object to that.

[SSJBatman]

I've got no problem with lots of Batman movies, but I kind of wish the movies would include other characters besides just Batman and a couple of villains, or Batman/Superman and villains. :sad: My favorite characters tend to be the "other heroes" of the Batman verse (Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl, etc.), and I think it would be neat to have them at least appear in the Batman movies. I mean, I'm thrilled we've got Nightwing in the newest DTV, but that seems to be an exception rather than the norm.

Batman/Superman teamups just don't appeal to me, and Batman: Year One sounds really similar to the current live-action movies, with just Batman starting out and going solo. I mean, Batman's cool and all on his own, but I think including the other heroes can only make the stories more interesting. (When done correctly, of course.)

And personally, I think any of the "Year One" titles for the aforementioned "other heroes" would make good DTVs. They're self-contained for the most part, and all of them still feature Batman. It's a shame they didn't want to go with the one for Batgirl, as the "Year One" title is one of my favorite graphic novels.


You just said everything I want to see. People get so turned off to the idea of Robin and sidekicks nowadays...it's like they get no chance :(

Personally though, I'd love to see a Solo Nightwing movie, if that'd work

[Yojimbo]

You just said everything I want to see. People get so turned off to the idea of Robin and sidekicks nowadays...it's like they get no chance :(

Personally though, I'd love to see a Solo Nightwing movie, if that'd workAt this point, I'd settle for a DC Showcase for Nightwing. While his recent but short and mullet-less appearance was great and all, and the title of the movie was 'Batman' and he mainly was there to serve as a metaphorical contrast, I'd like to see him in an adventure where his legs aren't broken. Even though that was a humorous callback to some of his appearances as Robin in B:TAS and The Adventures of Batman and Robin.

Maybe I'd humor a DC Universe movie with Batman and the Tim Drake Robin, more akin to the comics than a rehash of the version that appeared on The New Batman Adventures, to prove that sidekicks that are in the duration of the movie can work.

[Callonme]

2011 slate:

All-Star Superman

Green Lantern: Emerald Knights

Batman: Year One

Discuss.

[The Octopus]

2011 slate:

All-Star Superman

Green Lantern: Emerald Knights

Batman: Year One

Discuss.

Did they confirm All-Star Superman to be the film after Apocalypse, at the Under the Red Hood premiere?

[Dreyfus]

A great choice for animation. And it looks like Emerald Knights will be an anthology after all.

[Yojimbo]

2011 slate:

All-Star Superman

Green Lantern: Emerald Knights

Batman: Year One

Discuss.A Grant Morrison series, hmm. I'll bite. I saw some Twitter feeds of the DCU panel and seems like Emerald Knights is going to an anthology like reported earlier.

[Callonme]

Did they confirm All-Star Superman to be the film after Apocalypse, at the Under the Red Hood premiere?

Yes.

It will be interesting to see how they adapt Quitely and Mazzucchelli's respective art styles. So far we've gotten pretty accurate depictions of Darwyn Cooke, Ed McGuinness and Michael Turner -- plus a pretty good Doug Mahnke riff in Red Hood. Each adaptation has been better than the last so I'm sure next year's stuff will look great. Like I said, there seemed to be a huge leap forward in terms of quality with this year's movies and next year looks like no exception.

I am really quite excited for All-Star Superman and I actually think it'll translate beautifully into the 70-minute timeframe. Since the comic is somewhat episodic, finding the core and focusing the story will provide for a nice movie.

Anyway -- it's been an exciting weekend for DC animation!

[Dreyfus]

It's a good series. I knew it was popular enough to be adapted, but I always kind of wondered if it ever would be because of how it's written/structured.

So did they give dates?

[suss2it]

2011 slate:

All-Star Superman

Green Lantern: Emerald Knights

Batman: Year One

Discuss.

Haven't read All-Star Superman, but I heard good things about it so I'm looking forward to that.

Depending on who they choose to focus on in Emerald Knights I think it'll be interesting.

As for Year One I'm not really interested in that at all right now. Batman Begins was a fine origin so I don't know why they're choosing to do his origin again. I'm also willing to bet that most people who buy these movies have seen Batman Begins. There are so many Batman stories they could use instead, in fact I would prefer an original idea instead of yet another adaptation.

[Dreyfus]

All-Star Superman has a lot of potential. It's one of the few stories that I can read over and over again. Wonder if any of the writers/directors were announced at the panel.

[Yojimbo]

Yes.

It will be interesting to see how they adapt Quitely and Mazzucchelli's respective art styles. So far we've gotten pretty accurate depictions of Darwyn Cooke, Ed McGuinness and Michael Turner -- plus a pretty good Doug Mahnke riff in Red Hood. Each adaptation has been better than the last so I'm sure next year's stuff will look great. Like I said, there seemed to be a huge leap forward in terms of quality with this year's movies and next year looks like no exception.

I am really quite excited for All-Star Superman and I actually think it'll translate beautifully into the 70-minute timeframe. Since the comic is somewhat episodic, finding the core and focusing the story will provide for a nice movie.

Anyway -- it's been an exciting weekend for DC animation!Agreed. I'm also happy to see a solo Superman story. I wonder if this is the one of the next scripts Dwayne McDuffie is writing. He did cryptically say a "super good time" in a previous Crisis on Two Earths panel months ago.

Only got the DC Showcase panel tomorrow and probably bunches of recap articles to wait for in anticipation.


It's a good series. I knew it was popular enough to be adapted, but I always kind of wondered if it ever would be because of how it's written/structured.

So did they give dates?Based on Twitters, nope. It sounds like they said late 2011 for Year One which we knew from old news is September 27, 2011 and Emerald Knights for June 2011.


As for Year One I'm not really interested in that at all right now. Batman Begins was a fine origin so I don't know why they're choosing to do his origin again. I'm also willing to bet that most people who buy these movies have seen Batman Begins. There are so many Batman stories they could use instead, in fact I would prefer an original idea instead of yet another adaptation.If James Gordon gets his big role adapted to this movie, I'll be okay with it.

[The Octopus]

Haven't read All-Star Superman, but I heard good things about it so I'm looking forward to that.

Me too.
I assume this was the Superman film, McDuffie implyed he was writing. Anyways, Frank Quietly isn't my favorite artist, so I hope they remove the squinty eyes he draws on ALL of his characters in the film's design.

As for Emerald Knights being an anthology, I'm quite disappointed. I mean at least they could have done, something like a prequel to live-action film. Showing Abin and the corps before Hal's appearance.

[Dreyfus]

I wonder if this is the one of the next scripts Dwayne McDuffie is writing. He did cryptically say a "super good time" in a previous Crisis on Two Earths panel months ago.

Forgot about that. This could be the one he meant. All-Star and Year One are two of the best stories from either character. A Green Lantern anthology is icing on the cake.

[Yojimbo]

Me too.As for Emerald Knights being an anthology, I'm quite disappointed. I mean at least they could have done, something like a prequel to live-action film. Showing Abin and the corps before Hal's appearance.It still could be one of the stories in the movie. Like how some others thought one about Sur and his premonition could be.

[Dreyfus]

I couldn't be happier with this announcement. If it's at the quality of the recent features, this should be a great movie and completely different than anything done before.

[Yojimbo]

Wonder if anyone asked them if its 3 or 4 movies in 2011. Must be into the encore of Under the Red Hood right now.

[Dreyfus]

I was wondering about that too. It's possible that there's another one coming out, but the DC Showcase collection might count as release #4.

[Yojimbo]

I was wondering about that too. It's possible that there's another one coming out, but the DC Showcase collection might count as release #4.That'd be pretty evil. Well, beggars can't be choosers. I'm also just glad they confirmed the next 3.

[Blue Beetle]

So wait, only 3 releases for 2011? I was hoping we'd bump it to 4 like some speculated, it sucks already knowing everything that will come out since now we don't won't get news again until next SDCC... though its not hard to guess that with a new Batman/Superman movie in 2012 we'll get a Batman DTV (maybe even Gotham Knights II) for summer and a Superman DTV for fall. And that one will likely be a third Batman/Superman or Justice League DTV....

I guess it bums me out that theres no Flash DTV being planned or any other superhero.

[Callonme]

Bruce Timm also mentioned that one comic book story they want to adapt may be divided into two movies. He talked about the limitations of the 70-minute running time, and said that “[New] Frontier” might have benefited from a 2-movie treatment.

Source (http://www.titanstower.com/monitor/?p=1994)

VERY interesting. I wonder what comic could be that epic? Sure, there are plenty of longer stories in the comics that could be adapted intact rather than streamlined. But my gut instinct tells me the chosen story would literally need to be two distinctive parts rather than a longer movie split down the middle.

One thing is for sure: it will be a Batman/Superman/Justice League story. Or an Ambush Bug story.

[Dreyfus]

Sinestro Corps War maybe? That would be the obvious guess, but it must be something else. Wish I knew. In any case, a 2-movie storyline sounds good to me, but I wonder if WB will allow it.

[Hero Supreme]

Source (http://www.titanstower.com/monitor/?p=1994)

VERY interesting. I wonder what comic could be that epic? .

Kingdom Come?

[Dreyfus]

That would definitely qualify. Just not sure of how long it would have to be.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Kingdom Come would indeed benefit from two films. Make it so, Number One! :D

[Dreyfus]

I like that guess. It's a popular storline with lots of action. My copy is about 200 pages long.

Hypothetically speaking, if it goes by the comics, the first part should end with Superman confronting Magog.

[SaBaWoJuLe]

I wonder if its Crisis-related, because THAT's big.

[Dreyfus]

Well it's not Kingdom Come.
http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3655662&postcount=175

Maybe a Crisis On Infinite Earths adaptation. Or Crisis On Infinite Earths as part 1 and Infinite Crisis as part 2.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Batman: KnightFall / KnightsEnd

It has to be!

[Azeke]

I'm not quite sure if it really belongs here, but i couldn't find more proper thread, so there you go:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-who-dc-universe/702049

[Dreyfus]

I posted in the Hamill retiring thread. These cinematics have been amazing. I might look into the game despite being put off by the monthly fees.

[Callonme]

Well, here's what I think:

There's a live-action movie coming out on July 20, 2012 about a certain pointy-eared superhero. It's a sequel to a movie that grossed over $1 billion. Warner Bros., the company that makes these animated movies, happens to have a little stake in this hotly anticipated film. And perhaps they'd like to create some tie-in products.

Now, this $1 billion movie was called The Dark Knight. There also happens to be a comic book called The Dark Knight Returns that might just be one of the most influential and popular storylines of all time. The story itself is a bit too long to be condensed into a 70-minute feature. But it would be dynamite as a two-part rock-em sock-em 140-minute powerhouse. And it also features a certain Man of Steel who is scheduled for a movie the same year as Batman 3.

Look at all the possibilities for marketing. The story is called The Dark Knight Returns. That title alone would evoke interest from the average consumer. How about something like this:

Spring 2012: The Dark Knight Returns Pt. 1
Summer 2012: The Dark Knight Returns Pt. 2 (The Dark Knight Falls?)

And they could later be repackaged with the movies spliced together...just in time for the home video release of Batman 3.

Plaster across the DVD/Blu-ray: "From the writer/artist of Sin City and 300." Get Madhouse and Moi to team up on animation duties. Have all the big guns directing: Lauren Montgomery, Sam Liu, Brandon Vietti. Get Miller to write or at least co-write the script. Bam! -- you've got a hot seller right there.

Just a thought.

[Dreyfus]

It would be another good choice.

[Yojimbo]

We already knew Lauren Montgomery wants to direct an Aquaman movie but over at SDCC's DC Showcase panel, they said Dwayne McDuffie wants to write the script for an Aquaman movie. I hope this happens in 2012.

Link: Scroll down and Download WB Home Video: DC Showcase mp3 (http://www.dccomics.com/sites/events/)

[Dreyfus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzIUpbgiLIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBT26WwCHDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TVZieXbZ-E

Should finally be getting my copy in a few hours.

[Blue Beetle]

Didn't Bruce TImm say that at SDCC we'd be able to know where exactly they were going with the DTVs?

Well that wasn't true, I mean they revealed the three DTVs for 2011 (though we already knew two of them) but we still don't know where they are going with the DTVs.

[Hero Supreme]

Didn't Bruce TImm say that at SDCC we'd be able to know where exactly they were going with the DTVs?

Well that wasn't true, I mean they revealed the three DTVs for 2011 (though we already knew two of them) but we still don't know where they are going with the DTVs.

Based on Batman: Under the Red Hood, Superman Batman: Apocalypse, All Star Superman and Batman: Year One, it look like they are moving more toward adaptations of well known graphic novels, or established brands. Green Lantern will serve as a movie tie in. So, I would guess that our best hope for an original story featuring Flash or Wonder Woman (for example) would be as a movie tie in in 2012.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Based on Batman: Under the Red Hood, Superman Batman: Apocalypse, All Star Superman and Batman: Year One, it look like they are moving more toward adaptations of well known graphic novels, or established brands. Green Lantern will serve as a movie tie in. So, I would guess that our best hope for an original story featuring Flash or Wonder Woman (for example) would be as a movie tie in in 2012.

I actually prefer the adaptations of comic stories as opposed to original stories. Not that I don't like both, but I enjoy seeing the adaptations more.

[Blue Beetle]

So, I would guess that our best hope for an original story featuring Flash or Wonder Woman (for example) would be as a movie tie in in 2012.

But neither is getting a movie in 2012, in fact Batman/Superman are so we can easily assume The summer DTV for 2012 is Batman and the fall is going to be Superman with The earlt 2012 one being either another Batman/Superman if apocalypse also sells well or a Justice League.

[Yojimbo]

But neither is getting a movie in 2012, in fact Batman/Superman are so we can easily assume The summer DTV for 2012 is Batman and the fall is going to be Superman with The earlt 2012 one being either another Batman/Superman if apocalypse also sells well or a Justice League.What happens in 2012 besides the 3rd Batman movie hinges on how well the live action Green Lantern does. If it makes a lot of money, then the Flash and Wonder Woman are next up according to Geoff Johns, I think, in an interview from before Comic Con.

[Dreyfus]

Timm mentions that they're currently working on Batman: Year One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0CcJg9OEO8

New Under the Red Hood clips released here for anyone interested.
http://www.warnervideo.com/batmanredhood/
http://www.ugo.com/movies/batman-under-the-red-hood-video


Didn't Bruce TImm say that at SDCC we'd be able to know where exactly they were going with the DTVs?

Well that wasn't true, I mean they revealed the three DTVs for 2011 (though we already knew two of them) but we still don't know where they are going with the DTVs.

Seems like we'll be seeing more adaptations in the future. That's what I got out of all of the news from SDCC.

[Yojimbo]

Timm mentions that they're currently working on Batman: Year One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0CcJg9OEO8Makes sense they'd be working on on four to six movies in various stages. I'm also starting to warm up to the interviewer, too. I had to laugh at the refund question.

[Dreyfus]

More release date rumors.


Y'all probably know by now that BATMAN: YEAR ONE is presently being adapted into one of these fantastic animated movies. We’ll, I have learned that it’s going to be released on SEPTEMBER 27, 2011.

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/batmanonfilmimagesandpics/batmanyearone-cover.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401207529?ie=UTF8&tag=batmanonfil0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1401207529)http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=batmanonfil0f-20&l=as2&o=1&a=1401207529 Can't WAIT!
(Some non-Batman release dates coming: ALL-STAR SUPERMAN on 2/22/11 and GREEN LANTERN: EMERALD KNIGHTS on 6/7/11 -- right before the live-action film.)


http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

[Yojimbo]

More release date rumors.

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.htmlSounds pretty logical to me; 2/22/11 then 3+ months, 6/7/11 (more so, in time for the live-action movie) then 3+ months 9/27/11. Seems more evenly spaced out than this year.

[Dreyfus]

Add a Showcase release in November and you've got the possible schedule for 2011.

[Yojimbo]

Add a Showcase release in November and you've got the possible schedule for 2011.Yeah, I guess that's what Lauren Montgomery meant by 4 releases a year. Still got my fingers crossed for Aquaman and Flash in 2012.

[Dreyfus]

Still got my fingers crossed for Aquaman and Flash in 2012.

Hopefully new live-action movies for them will get into production soon.



Spring 2012: The Dark Knight Returns Pt. 1
Summer 2012: The Dark Knight Returns Pt. 2 (The Dark Knight Falls?)

Or maybe Bruce Wayne Murderer/Fugitive.

[GL's Light]

Or maybe Bruce Wayne Murderer/Fugitive.
I think they'll go with a more famous and more popular storyline than that for a two-movie adaptation.

[Dreyfus]

Yeah, that's just me taking a shot in the dark. Let's just hope WB lets them make a 2-part movie.


More release date rumors.

It's funny how IGN and CBM are reporting this Year One rumor from BOF, but are leaving out both the All-Star Superman/Emerald Knights dates.

[Yojimbo]

A possible 2 part movie sounds like great progress to me no matter what title it is.


It's funny how IGN and CBM are reporting this Year One rumor from BOF, but are leaving out both the All-Star Superman/Emerald Knights dates.It is since checking the facts is the top thing a reporter should do. :shrug:

[Dreyfus]

Forgot to add that Dwayne McDuffie said that he would be interested in writing an Aquaman script recently at CCI. It's in the third to last paragraph.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27481

[Primal Slayer]

Didn't Bruce TImm say that at SDCC we'd be able to know where exactly they were going with the DTVs?

Well that wasn't true, I mean they revealed the three DTVs for 2011 (though we already knew two of them) but we still don't know where they are going with the DTVs.

Right now, just looks like they are just going into a Superman--Batman--Superman/Batman direction. Add if you get an actual live action release then you get an animated movie..

Course I hope I am wrong with that direction.

[Dreyfus]

http://bluray.ign.com/articles/110/1109479p1.html


Check out Jon Suzuki's character designs.
http://seirostuff.blogspot.com/

[Yojimbo]

Comic Hero News with Bruce Timm and Alan Burnett (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnmTp4TZLU)


The idea of doing a R-Rated movie is hot and cold. They might have an announcement in a couple months.
Have 2 scripts that must be rated R like in their comic books. A writer of one of them was in the room but unidentified.
Would love to do The Authority but not likely to be greenlit.
When asked about doing a Vertigo one - "Maybe."

[Dreyfus]

When asked about doing a Vertigo one - "Maybe."


I was already thinking Swamp Thing. Their reaction here makes me think it was him they were talking about even more.

[Yojimbo]

I was already thinking Swamp Thing. Their reaction here makes me think it was him they were talking about even more.I've carried a torch for Swamp Thing appearing in animated form even since his 'pseudo-cameos' on JL and JLU so I join you in thinking and also hoping it is Swamp Thing they're talking about. I don't think it'd be Sandman or Constantine.

[Dreyfus]

Swamp Thing has actually been pretty lucky with appearances outside of the comics. It's interesting to hear about possible R rated scripts though, since so far it's been something WHV has avoided doing.

Here's the actual write-up.
http://www.comicheronews.com/?p=11430

[Yojimbo]

Swamp Thing has actually been pretty lucky with appearances outside of the comics. It's interesting to hear about possible R rated scripts though, since so far it's been something WHV has avoided doing.I was glad to hear more about it after Alan Burnett spoke about it some time ago on Talk Geek. The Losers did pretty well, maybe that helped shift momentum back to a possibility of getting a R-rated/Vertigo title.

[Dreyfus]

Plus Brandon Vietti says at about 7:30 here that Vertigo is on his wishlist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puqIFDtkIOU

[suss2it]

I was glad to hear more about it after Alan Burnett spoke about it some time ago on Talk Geek. The Losers did pretty well, maybe that helped shift momentum back to a possibility of getting a R-rated/Vertigo title.

The Losers was a flop (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=losers.htm).

[Dreyfus]

Yeah, I don't remember it doing very well. That and Jonah Hex probably aren't inspiring too much confidence in DC characters. Green Lantern could change that though.

In other news, Amazon has listed Under the Red Hood as both #2 and #3 in sales the week of its release. Not sure about the sales numbers yet, so it might have just been a slow week.

http://www.the-numbers.com/interactive/newsStory.php?newsID=5316

[Yojimbo]

The Losers was a flop (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=losers.htm).Well, it did better than Jonah Hex in comparison to a recent Vertigo title. Losers made $28M in gross with a $25M budget whereas Jonah Hex made $10M with a $47M budget. That's all I meant. Overall, Vertigo titles has been mishandled in live-action movies, with some exceptions, and it's too bad because it lessens the chances for it to have place in the DC Universe and Showcase lines.

[suss2it]

Well, it did better than Jonah Hex in comparison to a recent Vertigo title. Losers made $28M in gross with a $25M budget whereas Jonah Hex made $10M with a $47M budget. That's all I meant. Overall, Vertigo titles has been mishandled in live-action movies, with some exceptions, and it's too bad because it lessens the chances for it to have place in the DC Universe and Showcase lines.

Almost all comicbook movies did better than Jonah Hex. When it comes to DC movies it's not just Vertigo is almost all movies DC not based on either Superman or Batman that they mishandle, Catwoman and Jonah Hex for example. In fact I think that A History of Violence is there only success outside of Supes and Bats.

[Yojimbo]

Almost all comicbook movies did better than Jonah Hex. When it comes to DC movies it's not just Vertigo is almost all movies DC not based on either Superman or Batman that they mishandle, Catwoman and Jonah Hex for example. In fact I think that A History of Violence is there only success outside of Supes and Bats.That's a good point but Superman Returns? Can't argue with the Catwoman example, though. And titles like A History of Violence and Road to Perdition (and that one I can't remember the title, the one with all the snow...Whiteout?) did well because only a minority knew they were comics first. I'm officially confused again as to what drove the Powers that Be to become re-interested in a R-rated DCU flick.

[suss2it]

That's a good point but Superman Returns? Can't argue with the Catwoman example, though. And titles like A History of Violence and Road to Perdition (and that one I can't remember the title, the one with all the snow...Whiteout?) did well because only a minority knew they were comics first. I'm officially confused again as to what drove the Powers that Be to become re-interested in a R-rated DCU flick.

Superman Returns (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman06.htm) was actually successful, it was just a bad movie. And I think after Watchmen Warner was going to stop with R-Rated comicbook movies, and so far there haven't been any.

[GL's Light]

In fact I think that A History of Violence is there only success outside of Supes and Bats.
Constantine did $230 million worldwide on a $100 million production budget and V for Vendetta did $132 million worldwide on a $54 million production budget.

[suss2it]

Constantine did $230 million worldwide on a $100 million production budget and V for Vendetta did $132 million worldwide on a $54 million production budget.

I didn't know either was DC and that's pretty good for DC. Now I'm really baffled has to how they came to the conclusion that they're less popular characters don't sell.

[dtemplar]

With talks about Vertigo, I made a poll a couple years ago involving which character should have their own DVD, overall the top choice is Sandman. Swamp Thing should also be a good choice, and I even picture The House of Mystery.

[Funkatron]

A heads up: most of the older DC Universe movies have some good deals on Blu-ray at Amazon:

Superman/Batman: Public Enemies: 14.49 (was 12.99 yesterday)
Justice League: New Frontier: 14.99
Wonder Woman: 15.49
Green Lantern: 9.99
Batman: Gotham Knight: 11.49
Superman/Doomsday: 9.49

Great prices if you haven't bought them yet

[Yojimbo]

I thought this was great news: DC Confirms Noveck's Departure (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27726).


Gregory Noveck has stepped down from his role within the company....DC Senior Vice President of Creative Affairs stepping aside to pursue the producing side of his career fulltime, CBR News reached out to DC for comment.

"This is not part of a larger organizational change at the company," a DC spokesperson explained, confirming an e-mail announcing Noveck's move was delivered to those in the company this afternoon.


Noveck, who started at DC in 2003...After coming on board at DC, he served a go to voice within Warner Broshttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27726#). about the management of DC's properties in various media, helping to launch the company's successful DC Universe line of animated movies which he often executive produced as well and several other film and television projects....Noveck plans to return to producing full time.I credit him with helping with the DC Universe and all, but whenever I heard him talk on commentaries or featurettes...I just never liked him, imo. I can't place it but just a feeling.

[GL's Light]

I didn't see or hear anything to dislike about Noveck as a person on the commentaries and featurettes and he obviously played a large role in getting the DC Universe line up and running, so I give him props for that. It was obvious that he'd be leaving the company, though, since the formation of DC Entertainment and the promotion of Geoff Johns to CCO made Noveck's job redundant.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

I'd love to see Superman Birthright adapted. I even think this would make a great live-action movie but that would probably never happen so the most I can hope for is an animated movie.

I also would love to see the Trinity Graphic Novel adapted this is one of my favourite graphic novels ever.

[Mad Hatter]

Personally, I want:

Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?
Batman: The Long Halloween (YESSS!)
Sinestro Corps War (YEESSSSSS!!)
Flash: Rogue War
Aquaman (probably an origin story)
Teen Titans: The Judas Contract (yes, I know they were making it and that they subsequently cancelled it, BUT I WANT IT!!!)
Crisis of Infinite Earths (YEEESSSSSSSSS!!!)
Blackest Night (YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!)
And of course:


Ambush Bug!

For the record, this is intended to be a joke.

[EmaHalJordan]

personally, i want:

Superman: Whatever happened to the man of tomorrow?
Batman: The long halloween (yesss!)
sinestro corps war (yeessssss!!)
flash: Rogue war
aquaman (probably an origin story)
teen titans: The judas contract (yes, i know they were making it and that they subsequently cancelled it, but i want it!!!)
crisis of infinite earths (yeeesssssssss!!!)
blackest night (yeeeeeessssssssssssssssss!!!!!!)

yeesss!!!

+ atom! Hawkman! And more justice league!!!

[dtemplar]

Personally, I want:

Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?
Batman: The Long Halloween (YESSS!)
Sinestro Corps War (YEESSSSSS!!)
Flash: Rogue War
Aquaman (probably an origin story)
Teen Titans: The Judas Contract (yes, I know they were making it and that they subsequently cancelled it, BUT I WANT IT!!!)
Crisis of Infinite Earths (YEEESSSSSSSSS!!!)
Blackest Night (YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!)
And of course:


Ambush Bug!

For the record, this is intended to be a joke.


yeesss!!!

+ atom! Hawkman! And more justice league!!!

YEESSSSSS!

+ Shazam!, Batman: The Killing Joke, anything from Vertigo, and Superman: The Man of Steel.

[darkdetective]

Superman: Secret Identity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Secret_Identity) would make an awesome film, though it might alienate some of the public because it isn't our Superman, but rather an Elseworlds Superman Prime. Still, it's a great comic, but it would probably need to be two films or it'll have to cut out most of it's fourth act.

[the greenman]

Comic Hero News with Bruce Timm and Alan Burnett (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnmTp4TZLU)


The idea of doing a R-Rated movie is hot and cold. They might have an announcement in a couple months.
Have 2 scripts that must be rated R like in their comic books. A writer of one of them was in the room but unidentified.
Would love to do The Authority but not likely to be greenlit.
When asked about doing a Vertigo one - "Maybe."


I wonder if that r-rated film is Judas Contract. I can't see it being anything else, especially since Young Justice is essentially a reboot of TT.

[Yojimbo]

I wonder if that r-rated film is Judas Contract. I can't see it being anything else, especially since Young Justice is essentially a reboot of TT.The more I think about it, I think moreso it's The Dark Knight Returns. It's one of the most violent DC Comics I can think of that they can get greenlit for DC Universe since it's Batman. The only other violent stuff I can think of is Sergeant Rock, Ostrander's Suicide Squad, anything Vertigo, and Hitman but I don't think for a second they'd carry a full length movie realistically.

And if it is The Dark Knight Returns, it'd be a sequel for Batman: Year One in the DC Universe line like with Superman/Batman: Apocalypse is for Public Enemies. And they could time the release with the third Nolan-directed Batman movie in 2012 instead of the "much-loved" anthology movies.

Ever since "Legends of the Dark Knight" on The New Batman Adventures or "Artifacts" on The Batman, I've had a lingering thought to see a fully animated movie version of TDKR.

[dmxx116]

I want to see Identity Crisis be made set in the Superman/Batman: Public Enemies/Superman/Batman: Apocalypse Universe but it need to be done as two movies and I hope they get back most of the DCAU voice actor.

[suss2it]

I want to see Identity Crisis be made set in the Superman/Batman: Public Enemies/Superman/Batman: Apocalypse Universe but it need to be done as two movies and I hope they get back most of the DCAU voice actor.Why should it be set in that universe if it's not a Superman/Batman story arc? From what I read about it, it's a 7 issue mini-series so I think one movie would be enough.

[defunctzombie]

I'm sorry but I can't see an R rated Teen Titans movie as a good sell. Yes, the Titans can dish out that level of material but on the other hand Titans stuff has always been marketed toward the younger part of the audience.

There are two good Batman stories that I can see being R rated, one being Dark Knight Returns and the other being Killing Joke. Long Halloween could also be an option, but I think that one would benefit more from the pg-13 audience. (Sorry these are all Batman, that's just who I read. :p)

[KillerMoth]

Given that Identity Crisis is absolutely loathed by fans and critics alike and infamous for helping usher in a second age of comic rape, death, gore and female fridging, in addition to it's single-minded exploitation, mis-characterisation and derailment of several classic DC characters, I'm gonna hope that that blight on the comic history never recieves a single recognition ever again.

[Yojimbo]

Given that Identity Crisis is absolutely loathed by fans and critics alike and infamous for helping usher in a second age of comic rape, death, gore and female fridging, in addition to it's single-minded exploitation, mis-characterisation and derailment of several classic DC characters, I'm gonna hope that that blight on the comic history never recieves a single recognition ever again.Besides the great homage near the end of JLU's "Far From Home" episode? There's always an exception in my book.

[KillerMoth]

Besides the great homage near the end of JLU's "Far From Home" episode? There's always an exception in my book.
Sorry, which one was that?

[Yojimbo]

Sorry, which one was that?None, aha ha, because there wasn't one. I misread what Crisis was being talked about. Silly me. :sweat:

[KillerMoth]

None, aha ha, because there wasn't one. I misread what Crisis was being talked about. Silly me. :sweat:
Ahaha, I see, no issue then :p

Of course I still stand by my condemnation of that horrific storyline and it's very sexist overtones.

[the greenman]

None, aha ha, because there wasn't one. I misread what Crisis was being talked about. Silly me. :sweat:

Um, actually there was a homage to the death of Supergirl cover, except GL's holding her.

[GL's Light]

They'll never make an R-rated Titans movie. My guess for the R-rated movies being kicked around are The Dark Knight Returns and The Killing Joke.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

And here I liked Identity Crisis...:sweat:

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

They'll never make an R-rated Titans movie. My guess for the R-rated movies being kicked around are The Dark Knight Returns and The Killing Joke.


Yeah, I think it's either The Dark Knight Returns or The Killing Joke, as well.

The Vertigo story would most likely be Swamp Thing.

[suss2it]

Um, actually there was a homage to the death of Supergirl cover, except GL's holding her.

But that isn't a homage to Identity Crisis.

[Callonme]

I think it has been stated in the past that there will never be an R-rated batman movie. And I'm not sure I want one. I think The Dark Knight Returns could translate perfectly with a PG-13 rating, especially given what Red Hood got away with.

But hey, I'm really hoping that DKR is this rumored 2-part DTV.

[SaBaWoJuLe]

I'am very sick of Batman, I want more Superman! Maybe even more DCU, but yeah, Superman! Jeez.

[Gold Guy]

They'll never make an R-rated Titans movie. My guess for the R-rated movies being kicked around are The Dark Knight Returns and The Killing Joke.

Yeah, for TT, the main audience are kids and younger teens. Making an R film for them would kill its chances for sales.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I'am very sick of Batman, I want more Superman! Maybe even more DCU, but yeah, Superman! Jeez.


If you only look at the DC Universe Animated Original Movies and the DC Showcase Animated Original Shorts, you'll find that Superman and Batman both are pretty close in the number of releases -- including some that are shared with each other and other characters:

Superman: Doomsday
Superman/Shazam!: The Return of Black Adam

Batman: Gotham Knight
Batman: Under the Red Hood

Superman/Batman: Public Enemies
Superman/Batman: Apocalypse

Justice League: The New Frontier
Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths


Next year's releases:

All Star Superman
Batman: Year One

[Callonme]

I hope that one day down the line we'll see another movie in Bruce Timm's style. The quality of animation we get on these features is a cut above the TV stuff -- now imagine combining that with Bruce Timm's sleek, animation-friendly aesthetic. What a treat that would be!

I'd love to see a really stripped down Batman movie -- something in the visual vein of TNBA -- stylish, mysterious and featuring Batman as an almost inhuman creature of the night.

[AviTrek]

If you only look at the DC Universe Animated Original Movies and the DC Showcase Animated Original Shorts, you'll find that Superman and Batman both are pretty close in the number of releases -- including some that are shared with each other and other characters:

Superman: Doomsday
Superman/Shazam!: The Return of Black Adam

Batman: Gotham Knight
Batman: Under the Red Hood

Superman/Batman: Public Enemies
Superman/Batman: Apocalypse

Justice League: The New Frontier
Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths


Next year's releases:

All Star Superman
Batman: Year One

Except Superman/Shazam! is only a short, and Batman is rumored to headline next years short compilation. So Batman is really one anime anthology ahead.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Except Superman/Shazam! is only a short, and Batman is rumored to headline next years short compilation. So Batman is really one anime anthology ahead.

Yeah, I know -- That's why I said they were "pretty close in the number of releases." I realize they're not exactly even, but it's not like Batman is so way ahead of Superman in the number of releases that Superman is practically forgotten.

Besides, when it really comes down to the source material (i.e. comic books and graphic novels), Batman does have the upper hand as far as the number of popular or acclaimed stories that could be adapted, while Superman unfortunately gets the short end of the stick.

[suss2it]

Wow I just realized that starting with Public Enemies and ending with Apocalypse Batman is going to be 4 consecutive DC universe movies. With Superman in 3 of the 4. The two of them are also going to have solo movies next year which will 2/3 of the movies coming out. Wow at this rate they might as well rename the line to the Adventures of Superman/Batman.

[Yojimbo]

Mini-non-spoiler-update on Dwayne McDuffie's Twitter today:


Got notes on my Direct to Video script. Many of them were improvements, and I only hate a few. This is what a writer calls a good day.Link: 9/8/2010 Tweet (http://twitter.com/Dwayne_McDuffie/status/23956935391)

Dwayne McDuffie confirms this is 3rd DTV script (http://twitter.com/Dwayne_McDuffie/status/23989576609) and his All-Star Superman script was completed over a year ago.

[dmxx116]

I hope WB can find away to put out another Superman/Batman movie next year starting with Absolute Power so we can get appearance by The Justice League and more of Wonder Woman. And I know they going to have good sales on Superman/ Batman Apocalypse.

[Gilgamesh]

I hope WB can find away to put out another Superman/Batman movie next year starting with Absolute Power so we can get appearance by The Justice League and more of Wonder Woman. And I know they going to have good sales on Superman/ Batman Apocalypse.

The first Superman/Batman movie was kind of...not that good. And I'm not optimistic about the other one.

I really, really like the idea of All Star Superman, though. That's one of my all time favorite comics. If we had to have another Batman, I'd honestly want Serious House on Serious Earth before anything else.

[Goodfellow]

So what comes after Apocalypse?

And doing All-Star Superman is a bad idea, as the All-Star series have been terrible.

[Yojimbo]

So what comes after Apocalypse?

And doing All-Star Superman is a bad idea, as the All-Star series have been terrible.A short break from the DC Universe line. Superman/Shazam: The Return of Black Adam from the DC Showcase line comes out in November 9th.

Then the next DC Universe movie is All-Star Superman in early Spring 2011 (Late February/Early March). It's written by Dwayne McDuffie and directed by Sam Liu.

I thought it was okay after adjusting to Morrison's weird referencing of things. Have you read the All-Star Superman/what'd you not like about it specifically?

[AviTrek]

A short break from the DC Universe line. Superman/Shazam: The Return of Black Adam from the DC Showcase line comes out in November 9th.

Then the next DC Universe movie is All-Star Superman in early Spring 2011 (Late February/Early March). It's written by Dwayne McDuffie and directed by Sam Liu.

I thought it was okay after adjusting to Morrison's weird referencing of things. Have you read the All-Star Superman/what'd you not like about it specifically?

Yojimbo, none of these movies are in the DC Universe if you are referring to the old Timm/Dini DCAU. If you are taking a wider view of DC Universe, then Superman/Shazam and the other shorts are as much a part of the universe as Apocalypse, All-Star Superman, or any of the others. And with the exception of the 2 Superman/Batman titles, none of these movies share the same universe. So there really is no way to view any of these as a "break for the DC Universe line."

[suss2it]

Yojimbo, none of these movies are in the DC Universe if you are referring to the old Timm/Dini DCAU. If you are taking a wider view of DC Universe, then Superman/Shazam and the other shorts are as much a part of the universe as Apocalypse, All-Star Superman, or any of the others. And with the exception of the 2 Superman/Batman titles, none of these movies share the same universe. So there really is no way to view any of these as a "break for the DC Universe line."
The movie line that started with Superman: Doomsday and includes, Justice League: New Frontier, Batman: Gotham Knight, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern: First Flight, Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths, Batman: Under the Red Hood and now Superman/Batman: Apocalypse is actually called the DC Universe line. You'll notice that on the covers of each one there's a "DC Universe" logo. They're all still in their own separate universes however, with the possible exception of the two Superman/Batman movies.

[Goodfellow]

A short break from the DC Universe line. Superman/Shazam: The Return of Black Adam from the DC Showcase line comes out in November 9th.

Then the next DC Universe movie is All-Star Superman in early Spring 2011 (Late February/Early March). It's written by Dwayne McDuffie and directed by Sam Liu.

I thought it was okay after adjusting to Morrison's weird referencing of things. Have you read the All-Star Superman/what'd you not like about it specifically?

Wait, Superman/Shazam (isn't it Captain Marvel??) is being sold seperately??? How much are they charging for this 10 minute movie? The Blu-Ray better be filled with massive amounts of extra features.

[suss2it]

Wait, Superman/Shazam (isn't it Captain Marvel??) is being sold seperately??? How much are they charging for this 10 minute movie? The Blu-Ray better be filled with massive amounts of extra features.

It's 20 minutes and it also comes with extended versions of the 3 previous shorts (Spectre, Jonah Hex & Green Arrow). You can get the DVD (http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Shazam-Return-Black-Showcase/dp/B003Z8ZCDO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1285179286&sr=8-2) for 14 bucks and the Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Shazam-Return-Showcase-Blu-ray/dp/B003Z8ZCD4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1285179286&sr=8-1) for 20.

[Toddman]

The movie line that started with Superman: Doomsday and includes, Justice League: New Frontier, Batman: Gotham Knight, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern: First Flight, Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths, Batman: Under the Red Hood and now Superman/Batman: Apocalypse is actually called the DC Universe line. You'll notice that on the covers of each one there's a "DC Universe" logo. They're all still in their own separate universes however, with the possible exception of the two Superman/Batman movies.

And just to add more clarity, the "DC Universe" branding is used for the line of full-length movies while the "DC Showcase" branding is used for the line of animated shorts. Hence the 'break' in the Universe line of movies with the Showcase collection of shorts filling the gap.


Toddman

[Callonme]

The first screenshot from All-Star Superman looks like the work of Moi Animation. I really hope they continue to be used, especially on Batman: Year One. I haven't seen Superman/Batman: Apocalypse yet, but everything released so far looks spectacular.

The Answer Studio also did pretty phenomenal work on Batman: Under the Red Hood. Hopefully they will continue working on these features.

[Goodfellow]

It's 20 minutes and it also comes with extended versions of the 3 previous shorts (Spectre, Jonah Hex & Green Arrow). You can get the DVD (http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Shazam-Return-Black-Showcase/dp/B003Z8ZCDO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1285179286&sr=8-2) for 14 bucks and the Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Shazam-Return-Showcase-Blu-ray/dp/B003Z8ZCD4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1285179286&sr=8-1) for 20.

I don't know how I feel about this. I mean, they are essentially forcing us to double dip while also letting those who bootlegged the previous releases without the Showcase features the ability to bootleg them with the extended cuts.

[suss2it]

I don't know how I feel about this. I mean, they are essentially forcing us to double dip while also letting those who bootlegged the previous releases without the Showcase features the ability to bootleg them with the extended cuts.
It's not really double dipping if you're getting new content. Since the shorts are extended and since we haven't seen the Superman/Shazam short either we are getting new content. And bootleggers will bootleg any and everything anyway.

[W.C.Reaf]

I don't know how I feel about this. I mean, they are essentially forcing us to double dip while also letting those who bootlegged the previous releases without the Showcase features the ability to bootleg them with the extended cuts.

How is this relevant? How are they giving bootleggers the ability to bootleg the extended versions? They only way they're doing that is by putting out a product like everything else that is pirated. It's not like they can stop people doing that.

[Callonme]

Can Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, Superman/Batman: Apoclaypse and Batman: Under the Red Hood be thought of as in continuity with each other? The stories they are based on definitely are and the two Superman/Batman movies are already linked. It probably doesn't matter, but it's interesting for those who want a larger universe.

None of the other movies fit as far as I'm concerned since they are either original stories (Gotham Knight, WW, First Flight, Crisis, Emerald Knights), too loosely adapted (Doomsday) or based on out-of-continuity stories (New Frontier, All-Star, Year One).

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Can Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, Superman/Batman: Apoclaypse and Batman: Under the Red Hood be thought of as in continuity with each other? The stories they are based on definitely are and the two Superman/Batman movies are already linked. It probably doesn't matter, but it's interesting for those who want a larger universe.

None of the other movies fit as far as I'm concerned since they are either original stories (Gotham Knight, WW, First Flight, Crisis, Emerald Knights), too loosely adapted (Doomsday) or based on out-of-continuity stories (New Frontier, All-Star, Year One).


Why wouldn't Batman: Year One be in continuity? It still is in the comics.

As a matter of fact, Batman: Year One is the starting point for two different Batman continuities -- The DC Universe and The Millerverse (along with All Star Batman, Dark Knight Returns, and DK Strikes Again).

I would definitely say that Batman: Year One, along with Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, Superman/Batman: Apocalypse, and Batman: Under the Red Hood, could all make up the same continuity as they do in the comics.

The joy of these films, as opposed to most of the comics, is that they are self-contained and stand alone without necessarily requiring you to see or be familiar with any of the other stories. Unless they make a direct sequel to one of these movies, I'm not looking for continuity between them, nor do I want it.

[the greenman]

I have this sneaking feeling that "The Long Halloween" will follow up on "Batman: Year One". It could also be the two parter they talked about. That would be in continuity too.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I have this sneaking feeling that "The Long Halloween" will follow up on "Batman: Year One". It could also be the two parter they talked about. That would be in continuity too.

Maybe, but BT has said that they don't intend on doing it, because it is so long, but now that he's also said they are doing a two-parter, maybe they reconsidered. That all may depend on sales of Batman: Year One.

One thing that I was thinking is that if they are going to do an animated Batman origin movie, then they might consider doing a Superman origin movie. The problem is that there have been several Superman origin comics to pull from, and all of them are a bit convoluted or maybe too complex to adapt to animation (Man of Steel, Birthright, Secret Origin), but one that seems simple and perfect for animation isn't so much about Superman's origin, but his early years, and that would be Superman For All Seasons. BT stated recently that he's a big fan of that mini-series, so I wouldn't discount the possibility.

The only problem with doing Superman For All Seasons is that, like Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, Superman/Batman: Apocalypse, and Batman: The Long Halloween, they are all based on stories written by Jeph Loeb and there is bound to be many fans screaming about how too many movies are being adapted from his work. I personally don't mind at all as for the most part I think his stuff is great fun, accessible, and easily adaptable for animation.

One positive about doing Superman For All Seasons is that if and when released it will fill the void for the fans of the television series Smallville, which will be ending after this season, since Superman For All Seasons covers the early years of Clark Kent/Superman's life much like Smallville did. Plus, we should be getting Chris Nolan's Superman movie soon, so it would be nice to have a tie-in, even if it's not related directly to the film.

[Green-Ghost]

I hope that we'll get The Long Halloween in the future! I think the art style could work fantastic for an animated movie...

[suss2it]

If they decide to do another Superman/Batman movie I hope it focuses more on Batman, because the last two were more Supes oriented, using his villains and his supporting cast. It's great seeing Batman thrown into Superman's world, but I'd also like to see Superman in Batman's, which I know is a lot harder to pull it off.

Anyone familiar with the Superman/Batman comicbook, are there any Batman oriented stories or are they mostly just Superman ones guest-starring Batman?

[KillerMoth]

I really hope they don't do The Long Halloween, the only redeeming part of it is Tim Sale's wonderful artwork. It is filled with plotholes, ridiculous twists placed there for the sake of it, empty characters, non-existent themes, typical Loeb "throw everyone in!" and worst of all hardly examines Harvey's transformation at all.

[Yojimbo]

Anyone familiar with the Superman/Batman comicbook, are there any Batman oriented stories or are they mostly just Superman ones guest-starring Batman?I think there was one arc, the issues were in the 50's. The story was somehow, I forget, Batman gets Superman's powers and instills total fear into the Gotham underworld.

[the greenman]

I'd much rather have seperate Batman and Superman dtv's than a bunch of team-ups all the time. The well has to run dry on the team-ups after while. Make more Justice Leagues and solo adventures, but the team-ups are getting old.

I do think we will get less when they throw GL in the mix.

[suss2it]

I think there was one arc, the issues were in the 50's. The story was somehow, I forget, Batman gets Superman's powers and instills total fear into the Gotham underworld.
Something like that would be cool to see. I remember an episode of The Brave and the Bold that had Batman getting Superman-like powers. But even that there seems to be more Superman influenced than Batman, which is fine but I'd just like to seem them mix it up and take us into Batman's world with Superman along for the ride instead of the other way around.


I'd much rather have seperate Batman and Superman dtv's than a bunch of team-ups all the time. The well has to run dry on the team-ups after while. Make more Justice Leagues and solo adventures, but the team-ups are getting old.

I do think we will get less when they throw GL in the mix.

Supes and Bats are both getting solo films in 2011 anyway. I don't think the team-ups are getting old seeing as though there's only been 2, the same amount as Justice League movies, the same amount of Batman movies and soon the same amount of Superman & Green Lantern movies.

However I would like them to use other characters instead of just the big two, but I'll take what I can get.

[Yojimbo]

Something like that would be cool to see. I remember an episode of The Brave and the Bold that had Batman getting Superman-like powers. But even that there seems to be more Superman influenced than Batman, which is fine but I'd just like to seem them mix it up and take us into Batman's world with Superman along for the ride instead of the other way around.Yeah, "The Super-Batman of Planet X!". The episode and this Superman/Batman arc definitely took cues from Silver Age World's Finest comics when Batman and sometimes, Robin/Dick Grayson, would get Superman's powers while Superman was powerless and had to hitchhike in one instance. Even if it's a teaser, I, too, would like to something more similar to WF's stories and your suggestion.

Definitely seeing it as a movie would be cool but I'm sure the suits would object to it causing brand confusion or [insert jargon here].

[Dreyfus]

Not sure what this one's about so I'll post it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UggBjeIVOPQ

[the greenman]

It's a visual version of Ed's interview.

[Dreyfus]

Yeah, I just found that out. There's a Part 2 under the same account if anyone wants to watch.

[suss2it]

At this point, I'm not sure I want to see anymore Superman/Batman teamups. I'd much rather have Superman and Batman in seperate solo features, or if together as part of the Justice League.

Besides, I really didn't like S/B: Public Enemies, and although I liked S/B: Apocalypse, there seemed to be a lot of other viewers who didn't, so I'm not so sure how many more of these Superman/Batman stories are worthy and make sense to adapt, especially if they're based on stories written by Jeph Loeb, who is exclusively at Marvel Animation now.
I don't mind the Superman/Batman team-ups, especially since they're able to throw in a lot of other DC characters that otherwise wouldn't get any screen time. So far the 2 have been adaptions, but there's no reason I see for them all to be adaptions, surly they could make an original story starring the two.

Which brings me to my next point. I really wanna see is more original scripts like First Flight & Crisis On Two Earths instead of so much adaptions. However I do like adaptations since all the ones they've chosen to adapt (aside from Batman: Year One & All-Star Superman) I haven't read so I don't want them to stop altogether, I'd just like them to mix it up a bit. Instead of 2/3 adaptations a year I'd rather it it be 2/3 original stories a year.

*I went really off-topic so it seems more appropriate to post this here.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I don't mind the Superman/Batman team-ups, especially since they're able to throw in a lot of other DC characters that otherwise wouldn't get any screen time.

Well then, why not just have more Justice League adaptations instead of just limiting it to Superman/Batman team-ups with other guest characters?


Which brings me to my next point. I really wanna see is more original scripts like First Flight & Crisis On Two Earths instead of so much adaptions. However I do like adaptations since all the ones they've chosen to adapt (aside from Batman: Year One & All-Star Superman) I haven't read so I don't want them to stop altogether, I'd just like them to mix it up a bit. Instead of 2/3 adaptations a year I'd rather it it be 2/3 original stories a year.


I like both adaptations and original stories, it depends. Original stories tend to draw somewhat from the comics anyway, especially in the case of origin stories like GL: First Flight, while adaptations always need a bit of retooling to make it work for the screen, so in a way, whether it's an adaptation or an original story, we seem to get a little of both in each feature.

The one thing I love about the adaptations are how the designers adapt and try to remain as faithful to the original comic book artists styles as much as possible.


Here is my current wishlist: The four features I'd like to see the most and seem like great possibilities:

The Flash - An origin story done much like Green Lantern: First Flight was.

Aquaman - Directed by Lauren Montgomery.

Green Arrow - Written by Tab Murphy.

Justice League: Cosmic Odyssey - Based on the comic book mini-series by Jim Starlin and Mike Mignola. Of course, Wonder Woman needs to replace Starfire in this adaptation, as was originally intended, and the animation and designs need to be faithful to Mike Mignola's Kirby-like art style.


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[suss2it]

Well then, why not just have more Justice League adaptations instead of just limiting it to Superman/Batman team-ups with other guest characters?Yeah that's fine too, in fact I'd prefer that just because we've seen Superman & Batman team-up so much before in animation it'd be fun to see different character dynamics, especially since they could put a lot of different DC character in the League like Zatanna, Black Canary, The Atom & Hawkman along with Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman and it'd probably sell really well.




I like both adaptations and original stories, it depends. Original stories tend to draw somewhat from the comics anyway, especially in the case of origin stories like GL: First Flight, while adaptations always need a bit of retooling to make it work for the screen, so in a way, whether it's an adaptation or an original story, we seem to get a little of both in each feature.That's true too, I'd just rather that the original ideas have a higher ratio to the adaptations.


The one thing I love about the adaptations are how the designers adapt and try to remain as faithful to the original comic book artists styles as much as possible.Yeah, it is pretty cool to basically see the comics come to life in animation.



Here is my current wishlist: The four features I'd like to see the most and seem like great possibilities:

The Flash - An origin story done much like Green Lantern: First Flight was.

Aquaman - Directed by Lauren Montgomery.

Green Arrow - Written by Tab Murphy.

Justice League: Cosmic Odyssey - Based on the comic book mini-series by Jim Starlin and Mike Mignola. Of course, Wonder Woman needs to replace Starfire in this adaptation, as was originally intended, and the animation and designs need to be faithful to Mike Mignola's Kirby-like art style.All great ideas, and I know that the Aquaman one would be really good since Lauren Montgomery really seems to love him.

[Yojimbo]

A little bit of news and a little bit of background info on the timeframe of production but over in the Superman/Batman: Apocalypse thread, a Lauren Montgomery interview was posted and she revealed:

Green Lantern: Emerald Knights will probably come out after All-Star Superman (which is directed by Liu)," she states."Of course, I'm also working on Batman: Year One. I already have another project, but that's still a secret. I've hardly had time to realize it's out. Everything is going so fast. We hardly have time to breathe these days. I mean Red Hood doesn't seem that long ago. Then the DC Showcase special is coming and I can hardly wait. I'm a big fan of its director, Joaquim Dos Santos. I think it looks great. I won't say that I do not like this kind of schedule, but find when you don't get a break you burn out. I do need a little down time.Link: Associated Content Interview Page 4/4 (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5910392/lauren_montgomery_on_animating_super_pg4.html?cat=2)

So looks like along with Emerald Knights and Year One, she's already working on a 2012 title. :cool:

[the greenman]

I only have three possible guesses.

The Flash - to introduce and tie in with the live action film like GL First Flight did.
Aquaman - since the script is ready
Wonder Woman - possibly a sequel or anthology to tie in with the tv show?

[JLAgent]

Here is my current wishlist: The four features I'd like to see the most and seem like great possibilities:

The Flash - An origin story done much like Green Lantern: First Flight was.

Aquaman - Directed by Lauren Montgomery.

Green Arrow - Written by Tab Murphy.

Justice League: Cosmic Odyssey - Based on the comic book mini-series by Jim Starlin and Mike Mignola. Of course, Wonder Woman needs to replace Starfire in this adaptation, as was originally intended, and the animation and designs need to be faithful to Mike Mignola's Kirby-like art style.

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Those are great ideas!!! Would love to see Aquaman DONE RIGHT and i think
an animated movie would do just that....

Justice League: Cosmic Odyssey is also a good choice for adaptation.
I'd also like to see an adaptation of the first JLA-JSA meeting.

-JLAgent

[suss2it]

I only have three possible guesses.

The Flash - to introduce and tie in with the live action film like GL First Flight did.
Aquaman - since the script is ready
Wonder Woman - possibly a sequel or anthology to tie in with the tv show?

First Flight isn't the tie-in, Emerald Knights is gonna be the tie-in. I don't think we'll be seeing a Wonder Woman movie because I believe Bruce Timm said that WB doesn't think that female hero leads are profitable enough. Hopefully Superman/Batman: Apocalypse changed their minds, but I doubt they saw it as female heroes being successful but more as Superman & Batman being successful. I hope that both Aquaman & Flash get their own solo movies because I think they're both deserving and popular enough to warrant the risk of making the movies.

[Yojimbo]

I only have three possible guesses.

The Flash - to introduce and tie in with the live action film like GL First Flight did.
Aquaman - since the script is ready
Wonder Woman - possibly a sequel or anthology to tie in with the tv show?I think the most likely is The Flash as a tie-in to the live action movie. Supposedly, it's the one after the Superman one or GL sequel, I think. There's also a possibility that this project she's working on is the 3rd script that Dwayne McDuffie is writing/wrote. He tweeted about getting back notes for it on September 9th.

[jondoe297]

Just watched Superman Shazam The Return of Black Adam short and it is AWESOME! SHAZAM!!! XD ;) :D

The rest of the shorts pretty much still the same w/ some added background scenes here and there, nothing much...

[Dreyfus]

The first screenshot from All-Star Superman looks like the work of Moi Animation. I really hope they continue to be used, especially on Batman: Year One.

Montgomery has confirmed it for Year One at least.
http://comments.deviantart.com/5/35286272/1683896526

[Yojimbo]

Montgomery has confirmed it for Year One at least.
http://comments.deviantart.com/5/35286272/1683896526:cool: And reading through her replies is pretty interesting. She's very pragmatic to say the least.

[the greenman]

:cool: And reading through her replies is pretty interesting. She's very pragmatic to say the least.

Does she stop by Toonzone? More of these folks should like her and Ben Jones. It's nice to see BT have some communication. Maybe we're a little TOO critical for them to take, but at least we're honest.

[The Dweller]

There's a Superman Batman team up from 1993 called World's Finest by Dave Gibbons and Steve Rude. Some of the tone appeared in the Superman/Batman team up in the Superman series. Luthor and Joker make a deal for Joker to 'take a holiday' in Metropolis in exchange for a chunk of slum that the Joker owns. There's also a subplot about an orphanage sitting exactly between the two cities and first the heroes swap cities too and then concludes with Superman and Batman teaming up to defeat the villains.

The design sense is as close to Golden Age as DC would let Rude get away with and there are some nice bits with Superman respnding to the darkness of Gotham and Batman operating in Metropolis.

If they want to adapt another Superman Batman team up story they could do worse than this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Batman-Worlds-Dave-Gibbons/dp/1563890682

[Dreyfus]

That sounds similar to the World's Finest movie from Superman: The Animated Series. If they wanted to, they could also look at Wagner's Trinity.

[Yojimbo]

Does she stop by Toonzone? More of these folks should like her and Ben Jones. It's nice to see BT have some communication. Maybe we're a little TOO critical for them to take, but at least we're honest.The link in my reply leads to Lauren Montgomery's Deviant Art account. She also has a blog at http://laurenmontgomery.blogspot.com/. She tends to run by the nickname of 'Not The Porn Star' like how Ben Jones goes by 'Idiot Style.'

[Spider-Man]

If they continue with the Superman/Batman films I think the next logical adaptations should be the "K" arc and the "SuperBat" arc, both of which would follow nicely in line with the first two. Outside of the other two Loeb arcs these two are the only other ones I could see them adapting. Perhaps "Torment" could work as a follow-up to "Supergirl" with its focus on Apokolips and Alan Burnett did write it.

[Aaron]

The link in my reply leads to Lauren Montgomery's Deviant Art account. She also has a blog at http://laurenmontgomery.blogspot.com/. She tends to run by the nickname of 'Not The Porn Star' like how Ben Jones goes by 'Idiot Style.'

I'd love to find a way to get into contact with her.
I know that if I was given the chance, she'd flip for my Aquaman script.


Those are great ideas!!! Would love to see Aquaman DONE RIGHT and i think
an animated movie would do just that....

.........
-JLAgent

I keep thinkin' the same thng.
Too bad it's nearly impossible for new screenwriters to get anything accomplished... especially if ya don't live in LA.

[Dreyfus]

I just saw a fun little segment at the DC animation building on Conan. Check out the rerun if you want to see it.

[Yojimbo]

I just saw a fun little segment at the DC animation building on Conan. Check out the rerun if you want to see it.Cool, thanks for the head's up, Dreyfus! So gonna record this when it comes on in 2 hours in my timezone.

EDIT: Just guessing on what this may be for but since Jerome Moore did work on the DC Universe and Showcase, before...Spooky Dino (http://jerome-k-moore.deviantart.com/art/SPOOKY-DINO-198086544)


WB Animation, Character Design. Spooky Dino turn. Pencil, digital color.

RrrrRRRRAWWWRRRRrrrrrr!!!

I'm not yet at liberty to discuss the project for which this image was created. But it was a fun challenge to draw this beastie as a dinosaur that never existed. I basically combined a Spinosaurus with a T-Rex. Several designs were submitted, including a couple raptors, which I may post later on. Even though this assignment was completed in November of 2009, the final project has yet to be released. Very soon, though.

The colors are my own selections.

Cheers!What do you all think?

[Rick Jones]

I can imagine it being a design for the GL movie (weird dino-like creature on an alien planet) but my personal wish would be that it was from a Showcase short, as it would mean that they were still doing the shorts.

[Yojimbo]

I can imagine it being a design for the GL movie (weird dino-like creature on an alien planet) but my personal wish would be that it was from a Showcase short, as it would mean that they were still doing the shorts.Good call, since he says a dinosaur that never existed. Could be one of many lifeforms that live on Mogo.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

My wishlist:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8d/Secret_Origin_HC.jpg/250px-Secret_Origin_HC.jpg OR http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/69/Birthright01cover.jpg/250px-Birthright01cover.jpg

Or maybe even a mix of the two but overall I'd prefer Birthright

http://images.bradspictures.com/bpictures/c/cover_of_cosmic_odyssey-24010.jpg

I agree with above replace Starfire with Wonder Woman

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/574/90374-84380-great-darkness-saga_large.jpg

Although instead of bringing Supergirl in and have Superboy be sent back to his own time I'd have Superboy just remain (I never got why they did that to be honest)

http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/3/37/Kingdom_Come_4.jpg

In my opinion the greatest Graphic Novel of them all and I would love to see this adapted.

I also agree with a Flash DTV been made I would love to see that.

[Hero Supreme]

http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/3/37/Kingdom_Come_4.jpg

In my opinion the greatest Graphic Novel of them all and I would love to see this adapted.



Unfortunately, this is the one story that BT has confirmed will not be made... at least for a long time.

[EmaHalJordan]

my wishlist...

BLACKEST NIGHT
http://blog.newsok.com/nerdage/files/2009/08/blackest_night_1_variant.jpg


the fisrt JLA/JSA Team Up
http://comicattack.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Crisis-JL211.jpg

CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS
http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/e/e9/Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_5.jpg
replace Jhon Stewart with Hal Jordan.

IDENTITY CRISIS

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/f3d3x10/DC/identity_crisis2.jpg

JUSTICE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/574/128051-18625-109974-1-justice_super.jpg

BRIGHTEST DAY

http://www.makeyoursoulburnslow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/BlackestNightBrightestDayLive.jpg

INFINITE CRISIS

http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/9/99/Remerging_of_multiverse.jpg

+ Aquaman Movie and Atom Movie!

[Bobbywoodhogan]

Identity Crisis would be awesome and with them been able to make the DTVs more adult themed it would certainly be the best oppurtunity to do it.

Some more I'd love to see:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/johnsgreatest15.jpg

http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/5/0/5077_400x600.jpg

Maybe they could adapt the first part of this and edit it so it can be a sequel to the Return of Black Adam.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fhq4mEaQL.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zW%2BbVwwKL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61TlDEW8v0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

[Wonderwall]

A couple of those would never work and I wonder why people mention them again and again.

A "Crisis on Infinite Earths" and "Infinite Crisis" would never work within the 70 - 80 minute time frame. I don't even thing 90 minutes would do it justice. And I for one hope they never do "Identity Crisis", it's hard to go to more mature stories when there's nothing mature about that particular one.

I also don't think "Justice" would work for the same reasons "Kingdom Come" won't work and that's that Alex Ross isn't translatable. Birthright could be done but it's kind of a boring story.

My wishlist would be a straight Flash movie and a JSA movie that takes place within the 40s.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

A couple of those would never work and I wonder why people mention them again and again.

A "Crisis on Infinite Earths" and "Infinite Crisis" would never work within the 70 - 80 minute time frame. I don't even thing 90 minutes would do it justice. And I for one hope they never do "Identity Crisis", it's hard to go to more mature stories when there's nothing mature about that particular one.

I also don't think "Justice" would work for the same reasons "Kingdom Come" won't work and that's that Alex Ross isn't translatable. Birthright could be done but it's kind of a boring story.

My wishlist would be a straight Flash movie and a JSA movie that takes place within the 40s.

I completely disagree Birthright in my opinion is the best of the Superman origin stories (in comic form).

Kingdom Come could be done easily, its not the artwork its the story they will be making. Look what they did with the artwork from All Star Superman the DTV's is very different to the comics.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I know I'm probably repeating what I've said in earlier threads, but the one I want to see and I believe the most possible to adapt faithfully is Cosmic Odyssey. Keep the Mike Mignola style designs and replace Starfire with Wonder Woman and you'll have one great Justice League feature.

I'd like to see Kingdom Come, too, but unless they can rotoscope the animation I don't see it as possible.

I really don't care to see Justice adapted at all. Besides the same difficulty in doing the designs faithfully, like with Kingdom Come, it's just way too long and filled with so many characters that it would just end up being a convoluted mess. If doing All Star Superman was risky because of its length and is already being considered disappointing because of what was cut, then Justice would wind up being a doomed failure from the start. Besides, I really don't think it was that great of a series to begin with, especially compared to Kingdom Come.

I don't really care about seeing Superman: Birthright or Secret Origin either -- I just really don't need to see another version of Superman's origin in any medium anymore. I've had enough of Superman's beginnings, and now his death (ie Doomsday and All Star), I'd like to see more Superman adaptations in the middle of his life for a change.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

I know I'm probably repeating what I've said in earlier threads, but the one I want to see and I believe the most possible to adapt faithfully is Cosmic Odyssey. Keep the Mike Mignola style designs and replace Starfire with Wonder Woman and you'll have one great Justice League feature.

Thats exactly what I think, its a wonderful graphic novel it would be superb to see in animation.

[RoryWilliams]

I know I'm probably repeating what I've said in earlier threads, but the one I want to see and I believe the most possible to adapt faithfully is Cosmic Odyssey. Keep the Mike Mignola style designs and replace Starfire with Wonder Woman and you'll have one great Justice League feature.

I'd like to see Kingdom Come, too, but unless they can rotoscope the animation I don't see it as possible.

I really don't care to see Justice adapted at all. Besides the same difficulty in doing the designs faithfully, like with Kingdom Come, it's just way too long and filled with so many characters that it would just end up being a convoluted mess. If doing All Star Superman was risky because of its length and is already being considered disappointing because of what was cut, then Justice would wind up being a doomed failure from the start. Besides, I really don't think it was that great of a series to begin with, especially compared to Kingdom Come.

I don't really care about seeing Superman: Birthright or Secret Origin either -- I just really don't need to see another version of Superman's origin in any medium anymore. I've had enough of Superman's beginnings, and now his death (ie Doomsday and All Star), I'd like to see more Superman adaptations in the middle of his life for a change.

I personally think that Kingom Come and any parts of the Crisis trilogy are far too steeped in continuity to work as mainstream movies.

Like for multiple reasons, parts of All-Star Superman had to be cut from the film, but they weren't so vital to the plot that it wouldn't function without it.

But COIE is like the ultimate excercise in inaccessible storytelling. Most of the big moments require some sort of knowledge about DC's history (or in Kingdom Come's case, the comic book industry in general), and I'm sure the average person would be left scratching their head.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I personally think that Kingom Come and any parts of the Crisis trilogy are far too steeped in continuity to work as mainstream movies.

Like for multiple reasons, parts of All-Star Superman had to be cut from the film, but they weren't so vital to the plot that it wouldn't function without it.

But COIE is like the ultimate excercise in inaccessible storytelling. Most of the big moments require some sort of knowledge about DC's history (or in Kingdom Come's case, the comic book industry in general), and I'm sure the average person would be left scratching their head.


I totally agree. Even in comic book form, Crisis on the Infinite Earths is a bit of a mess, and it was created to end and reboot the comic continuity -- it certainly would not translate well and does not have any purpose to serve in animated form.

That's why I suggest a smaller, more accessible, and, in my opinion, better epic story like Cosmic Odyssey instead.

[suss2it]

I don't really care about seeing Superman: Birthright or Secret Origin either -- I just really don't need to see another version of Superman's origin in any medium anymore. I've had enough of Superman's beginnings, and now his death (ie Doomsday and All Star), I'd like to see more Superman adaptations in the middle of his life for a change.
I agree. I'm sure there are plenty of other Superman stories they could adapt, instead of his origin. I don't even see how it would be necessary since the people buying these are probably somewhat familiar with one of the most popular superheroes of all time's origin.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

I totally agree. Even in comic book form, Crisis on the Infinite Earths is a bit of a mess, and it was created to end and reboot the comic continuity -- it certainly would not translate well and does not have any purpose to serve in animated form.

That's why I suggest a smaller, more accessible, and, in my opinion, better epic story like Cosmic Odyssey instead.

I think the only way to do COIE would be to set up a mass load of DC animated series and lets face it that will never happen.


I have recently been thinking a good idea for an animated series is a Superman one where he visits different earths and maybe they could use that to do a toned down COIE. Just an idea I had.



I agree. I'm sure there are plenty of other Superman stories they could adapt, instead of his origin. I don't even see how it would be necessary since the people buying these are probably somewhat familiar with one of the most popular superheroes of all time's origin.

I would like to see more Superman stories but I think those two origins would make great animated movies and I wouldn't mind seeing them.

Mod Note: Again, avoid successive posts when one will do. Pokes and infractions will be handed out in further cases.

[suss2it]

I would like to see more Superman stories but I think those two origins would make great animated movies and I wouldn't mind seeing them.

I would mind because if they do that they would've just wasted a slot for the DC Universe movies, which could've been used for a Justice League movie, or a Superman story that wasn't an origin.

[supergirl's pal]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fhq4mEaQL.jpg


I'd love to see this made into an animated movie if only because Supergirl saves the entire Solar System! :D

[Yojimbo]

He [Bruce Timm] also stated that he hopes to bring back voice actors that participated in the popular animated series Justice League for future film or television projects, and coyly said it is possible fans will see The Flash or Martian Manhunter spotlighted in future animated films.Link: Daily Blam Article (http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/02/20/bruce-timm-confirms-catwoman-short-with-batman-year-one-film-hears-positive-buzz-abo?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Based on plans for a Flash live-action movie, some have guessed a Flash DCU movie but Martian Manhunter? Awesome-sauce!

[suss2it]

Link: Daily Blam Article (http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/02/20/bruce-timm-confirms-catwoman-short-with-batman-year-one-film-hears-positive-buzz-abo?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Based on plans for a Flash live-action movie, some have guessed a Flash DCU movie but Martian Manhunter? Awesome-sauce!I hope a Flash solo gets made. Not excited for a solo Martian Manhunter though, I've never seen him solo and I'm not sure I want to. However I doubt MM will be solo and it'll probably be a Justice League movie with MM in the front and center of it.

[Yojimbo]

I hope a Flash solo gets made. Not excited for a solo Martian Manhunter though, I've never seen him solo and I'm not sure I want to. However I doubt MM will be solo and it'll probably be a Justice League movie with MM in the front and center of it.Agreed. But this thought appeared in my mind of letting Joaquim Dos Santos do a film noir-styled Martian Manhunter movie, where he's mostly John Jones working some case and it leads to a big-time supervillain and Jones revealing himself as the Manhunter. If everyone in the Big 7 can get their own movie, I'd be a monkey's uncle but a smitten monkey's uncle.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

The Flash? YES!

Martian Manhunter? eh... I'd much rather have an Aquaman animated feature.

[the greenman]

Agreed. But this thought appeared in my mind of letting Joaquim Dos Santos do a film noir-styled Martian Manhunter movie, where he's mostly John Jones working some case and it leads to a big-time supervillain and Jones revealing himself as the Manhunter. If everyone in the Big 7 can get their own movie, I'd be a monkey's uncle but a smitten monkey's uncle.

Is MM an official number 7? I guess because of the JL series I thought Hawkman was 7. Then again he's sometimes more associated with the JSA.

But, I think Timm said they used Hawkgirl instead of Aquaman and Hawkman for gender balance.

[Yojimbo]

Is MM an official number 7? I guess because of the JL series I thought Hawkman was 7. Then again he's sometimes more associated with the JSA.

But, I think Timm said they used Hawkgirl instead of Aquaman and Hawkman for gender balance.My mistake. By big 7, I meant the founding 7 of the JLA from The Brave and The Bold #28 (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter). I forgot about the connotations with "Big 7" and JLU. :sweat:

[RoyalRubble]

It would be great if a Flash movie gets made.

Don't really know that much about Martian Manhunter but a film with him would be pretty cool, I guess. Does he have any major super villains they could use for the movie?

[the greenman]

My mistake. By big 7, I meant the founding 7 of the JLA from The Brave and The Bold #28 (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter). I forgot about the connotations with "Big 7" and JLU. :sweat:

I don't think its as much JL/JLU as it is Superfriends. Hawkman was on Superfriends, MM didn't get animated till JL. So I think out of popularity, Hawkman should get a dtv before MM, but by honor, vice versa. It really doesn't matter at this point, WHV doesn't seem to want to take chances with these characters. As opposed to Marvel who would pretty much throw out every character and the Fantastic Fours kitchen sink to see if someone bites.

[EmaHalJordan]

The Flash
Aquaman
The Atom
Hawkman
Green Arrow

and later Martian Manhunter!

[Dexters Lab]

we are seeing the death of showcase but is DCU movies also dying sometime soon? looking at sales numbers the recent films have done the same as wonder woman and green lantern which they considered low. if batman/superman get those same numbers and not higher like early releases what does it mean for the future of the line?

[Suitcase Sam]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fhq4mEaQL.jpg

That Braniac shot is pretty aces.

[Dayspring]

I think I'd much rather see such a Martian Manhunter film noir movie as a DC Showcase short. Too bad those shorts are gone. :(

As for earlier comments about Infinite Crisis not being able to work, keep in mind that it does not and should not be a perfect translation of the comic. It just needs to have Alexander Luthor, Superman (Earth-2) or Superboy Prime explain the Crisis On Infinite Earths in a 30-second flashback scene, as well as avoid having them give specific reasons as to why they feel the heroes have let the world go to seed. Voila: half of Infinite Crisis' story is now unneeded.

And I want Flash Of Two Worlds as a DTV.

[Santino]

And I want Flash Of Two Worlds as a DTV.

I would love a Flash DTV, just not that story.

[Dayspring]

I would love a Flash DTV, just not that story.Correction: I want that as the anchor short on a future Showcase DVD, but that will never happen, so I want it as one of several Flash DTVs. :D

[Yojimbo]

Nothing major but at on the site that cannot be named, at Emerald City Comic Con, someone asked about the DC Universe animated movies and DC Comics Editor-in-Chief Bob Harras said it will still be "a mix of adaptations and new stories." :cool:

[theRedDeath]

As for earlier comments about Infinite Crisis not being able to work, keep in mind that it does not and should not be a perfect translation of the comic. It just needs to have Alexander Luthor, Superman (Earth-2) or Superboy Prime explain the Crisis On Infinite Earths in a 30-second flashback scene, as well as avoid having them give specific reasons as to why they feel the heroes have let the world go to seed. Voila: half of Infinite Crisis' story is now unneeded.

About the topic of doing a "Crisis on Infinite Earths" type movie, I mentioned this once before back when it was relevant, but has anyone here seen the "Turtles Forever" Ninja Turtles DtDVD?

*Spoilers for "Turtles Forever*

In that, the turtles from the 2000-series crossover with the turtles from the 80's series in a big multiverse style story, ultimately culminating in the destruction of realities, the acknowledgment of ALL the different parallel Ninja Turtle properties out there including the Live-action movies, and finally crosses over with the original B&W Ninja Turtles from the comics (actually CALLED Turtles-Prime!) for the final battle against the Ultimate Shredder.

*End spoilers*

From beginning to end it was a near perfect adaptation of a "Crisis On Infinite Earths" type story. Replace the turtle-teams with variations of the Justice League from animations past, and use an Anti-Monitor level villain instead of Shredder, and it's formula is exactly the sort of thing DC/WB should do in the future. Frankly I'm astonished they haven't already.

It's actually kind of sad to think that "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" did a faithful "Crisis" story before DC did. DC/WB should be a little embarrassed.

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[Garada]

About the topic of doing a "Crisis on Infinite Earths" type movie, I mentioned this once before back when it was relevant, but has anyone here seen the "Turtles Forever" Ninja Turtles DtDVD?

*Spoilers for "Turtles Forever*

In that, the turtles from the 2000-series crossover with the turtles from the 80's series in a big multiverse style story, ultimately culminating in the destruction of realities, the acknowledgment of ALL the different parallel Ninja Turtle properties out there including the Live-action movies, and finally crosses over with the original B&W Ninja Turtles from the comics (actually CALLED Turtles-Prime!) for the final battle against the Ultimate Shredder.

*End spoilers*

From beginning to end it was a near perfect adaptation of a "Crisis On Infinite Earths" type story. Replace the turtle-teams with variations of the Justice League from animations past, and use an Anti-Monitor level villain instead of Shredder, and it's formula is exactly the sort of thing DC/WB should do in the future. Frankly I'm astonished they haven't already.

It's actually kind of sad to think that "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" did a faithful "Crisis" story before DC did. DC/WB should be a little embarrassed.

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Dude, I agree with you 100%!

Not only did Turtles Forever pull off, as you say, a "near perfect adaptation of a 'Crisis On Infinite Earths' type story" in an awesome, fun, funny and exciting manner, but the thought of DC Animation doing a similar thing, using elements from Superfriends, the DCAU, The old Fleisher Superman, etc and tying it all together with the Comics and the movies is tantalizing.

[suss2it]

What, no love for the big green man?

Honestly, not really. He just seems really boring to me. Granted I've only ever seen him in animation (Justice League, Young Justice, Crisis on Two Earths, New Frontier & Batman: The Brave and The Bold), so maybe in the comics he's more interesting. Not to mention I don't think he has any interesting villains either. In fact I had no idea who his villains were until someone alerted me to his brother, and the evil-brother thing can be interesting, but beyond that, nothing. I'm also not aware of any interesting stories in the comics that starred him, and his corner of the DC universe just seems very bland.

Whereas, Captain Marvel, Flash & Aquaman all have interesting, fun personalities, expansive and interesting mythologies behind them, fun, crazy & threatening villains, and have very good storylines from the comics to pull from for inspiration for these movies.

However Martian Manhunter does work well in a team setting, and if there's more Justice League movies, I'd welcome his inclusion.

[W.C.Reaf]

Honestly, not really. He just seems really boring to me. Granted I've only ever seen him in animation (Justice League, Young Justice, Crisis on Two Earths, New Frontier & Batman: The Brave and The Bold), so maybe in the comics he's more interesting. Not to mention I don't think he has any interesting villains either. In fact I had no idea who his villains were until someone alerted me to his brother, and the evil-brother thing can be interesting, but beyond that, nothing. I'm also not aware of any interesting stories in the comics that starred him, and his corner of the DC universe just seems very bland.

I think there's an interesting movie that could be made about MM that could do things the other series didn't.

It could be about his arrival on Earth (by accident) and him coming to terms with the fact that he's either the last survivor of his race or how it doesn't look like he'll be able to get home again (both have good story potential). Set that to the backdrop of a gritty crime noir story (since he is a detective), throw in an appropriate DC villain and that's your movie.

[dtemplar]

Are there gonna be plans for another Superman film when the new Superman movie arrives?

[suss2it]

Are there gonna be plans for another Superman film when the new Superman movie arrives?

Probably. As of know we only know about Green Lantern: Emerald Knights and Batman: Year One.

[James Harvey]

The 2012 slate of DC Universe Animated Original Movies is set to be announced this summer.

[Gold Guy]

The 2012 slate of DC Universe Animated Original Movies is set to be announced this summer.

Well, this is good news. I still want a third Batman/Superman film.

[EmaHalJordan]

The 2012 slate of DC Universe Animated Original Movies is set to be announced this summer.
great :D
i want Aquaman, Justice, Crisis on Infinite Earths, and Sinestro Corps War/Blackest Night/Brightest Day.. !

[suss2it]

The 2012 slate of DC Universe Animated Original Movies is set to be announced this summer.

Sweet. I'm personally hoping for a JL movie, that stars the big 3 and then some lesser known heroes, such as Black Canary, The Atom, Vixen and Red Tornado. There will probably be another Superman/Batman movie, I haven't read any of those comics, aside from "Public Enemies", so I'm not that excited about another one.

[the greenman]

My top five are:

Justice League
Flash
Aquaman
An original Superman
Batman: Long Halloween

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I have a feeling it will be...

The Flash
another Superman/Batman
and another Justice League.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

I have a feeling it will be...

The Flash
another Superman/Batman
and another Justice League.

I'd be thrilled with that especially if the Flash is the origin of Barry Allen's Flash, Superman/Batman is Absolute Power and the Justice League one doesn't have Batman saving everyone again maybe do Tower of Babel.

[suss2it]

I'd be thrilled with that especially if the Flash is the origin of Barry Allen's Flash, Superman/Batman is Absolute Power and the Justice League one doesn't have Batman saving everyone again maybe do Tower of Babel.
Haven't heard of the other two, but we don't need a Flash origin, especially if the live-action movie will cover it. His origin isn't even that interesting, lightning hits his lab, then he gets superspeed. Boom, done. They could get that in before the opening credits like in Green Lantern: First Flight. From there they could tell an original story, or adapt one of the ones from the comics.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

Haven't heard of the other two, but we don't need a Flash origin, especially if the live-action movie will cover it. His origin isn't even that interesting, lightning hits his lab, then he gets superspeed. Boom, done. They could get that in before the opening credits like in Green Lantern: First Flight. From there they could tell an original story, or adapt one of the ones from the comics.

I dont mind spend the entire film on it but I'd like to see it personally.

Tower of Babel

From wikipedia:

Tower of Babel deals with Batman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman)'s perceived betrayal to the superhuman community by keeping records concerning the strengths and weaknesses of his allies in the JLA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League). His files are stolen by Ra's Al Ghul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%27s_Al_Ghul), who uses them to defeat the League through a coordinated attack to prevent them from interfering with his latest scheme.

One of the best of the JLA series

Absolute Power

From Wikipedia

In "Absolute Power" (issues #14-18, illustrated by Carlos Pacheco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Pacheco)), Lightning Lord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Lord), Saturn Queen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_Queen) and Cosmic King (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_King) -- three supervillains from the 31st century—eliminate members of the Justice League of America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League), except for young Superman and Batman, whom they raise as their own children. Batman and Superman are raised to be dictators of the world, eliminating all opposition and killing people who would otherwise be their friends. During a fight with Wonder Woman and the Freedom Fighters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Fighters_%28comics%29) the timeline is thrown into chaos, and the two men travel through alternate timelines. Darkseid makes a deal with them in one reality to send them back through time to stop the supervillains who raised them from altering history. Superman and Batman restore history, but the murders they committed haunt them.

Admittedly Absolute Power could easily be messed up, the graphic novel itself isnt amazing but its fun. I would actually be ok with almost any other Batman Superman movie but I think they might do this just to make up the trilogy.

[supergirl's pal]

The 2012 slate of DC Universe Animated Original Movies is set to be announced this summer.

Cool! I'm looking forward to see what 2012 has to offer. I like how they are telling us the entire slate at once instead of revealling each movie one at a time.

Here's hoping for a movie that has Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and/or Batgirl in it.

I watched Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo the other day and I realized that almost every DC animated series has had a DTV movie except Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Do you think such a movie could happen?

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Haven't heard of the other two, but we don't need a Flash origin, especially if the live-action movie will cover it. His origin isn't even that interesting, lightning hits his lab, then he gets superspeed. Boom, done. They could get that in before the opening credits like in Green Lantern: First Flight. From there they could tell an original story, or adapt one of the ones from the comics.


I said it before, I'll say it again... they should just do an original script, including the necessary origin, with a story structure similar to Green Lantern: First Flight and call it The Flash: First Run.

I'd even like the designs to be similar to GL: First Flight, so that maybe later on down the road we can have a connecting Green Lantern/Flash team-up movie instead of another Superman/Batman one.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

I said it before, I'll say it again... they should just do an original script, including the necessary origin, with a story structure similar to Green Lantern: First Flight and call it The Flash: First Run.

I'd even like the designs to be similar to GL: First Flight, so that maybe later on down the road we can have a connecting Green Lantern/Flash team-up movie instead of another Superman/Batman one.

That'd work although I wouldn;t say instead but aswell as :p

To be honest i want another Superman one but one where its not his origin or he's dying just a Superman story. I'd love it if it were Superman and the Legion of Superheroes.


Cool! I'm looking forward to see what 2012 has to offer. I like how they are telling us the entire slate at once instead of revealling each movie one at a time.

Here's hoping for a movie that has Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and/or Batgirl in it.

I watched Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo the other day and I realized that almost every DC animated series has had a DTV movie except Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Do you think such a movie could happen?

I really hope they do do a BTBATB DTV I think it'd be a superb oppurtunity to have it showcase that shows version of the JLA.

Oh and Legion of Superheroes never had a DTV

[CyclonatorZ]

I agree with everyone else who says that DC really needs to do a Turtles Forever-esque crossover between their established universes. Having the respective Justice Leagues of the DCAU, The Batman, and Batman: The Brave and the Bold team up to fight a multiverse-spanning threat would be the most awesome DTV ever, especially if they got someone like Greg Weisman or Paul Dini to write the script. Better yet, since (to my knowledge) DC doesn't have the same union difficulties that 4KIds had when making Turtles Forever, they might actually be able to get back most or all of the original voice actors. :)

[SaBaWoJuLe]

The only Flash DTV I would want is something that explores the legacy of the Flashes, and the burden of the current hero fearing he is not doing a good job like his mentor and fearing that being true from the POV of his sidekick, Kid Flash; and that would be much like a "Return of Barry Allen"-type storyline. For the DTV version; you can have Wally as the Flash, Jay Garrick as the first Flash, and Bart as Kid Flash, all witnessing the possible return of Barry Allen, and what Wally has done since his mentor's death, his mentor isn't fond of which makes Wally think he isn't like his mentor and should'nt have taken the mantle. Plus, you could have that affect Bart by having Wally tell Bart that he is quitting being the Flash, and because of him or Barry, Bart quits being Kid Flash, and for a short time til the final battle, he becomes Impulse. The thing that would've been figured out, because of the current DCU, is of the true nature of Barry Allen: would he be an impostor (Reverse Flash in disguise), be the real one with these thoughts being real, or both: Barry never died, Reverse Flash pretends to be Barry and does all this to the other Flashes, leading to the "Barry is alive" reveal in the final battle. That's the DTV I would want.

As for Green Lantern: I would want the exact same idea with a different story that still makes me wonder why they didn't do it the first time: "Sienstro Corps War". And have it star Hal, Guy, John, Kyle, and Alan.

Wouldn't all this be cool?!

[suss2it]

I said it before, I'll say it again... they should just do an original script, including the necessary origin, with a story structure similar to Green Lantern: First Flight and call it The Flash: First Run.

I'd even like the designs to be similar to GL: First Flight, so that maybe later on down the road we can have a connecting Green Lantern/Flash team-up movie instead of another Superman/Batman one.
That's a good idea too. I just don't want the first 20-30 minutes to go buy and Barry doesn't have his powers. Especially since his origins is so straight forward, I don't see the necessity of basing en entire movie around it. It's like with Dir Hard, we didn't watch those movies to see John McClane going through police academy and earning his gun & badge, so why do we need to see that stuff here?


I dont mind spend the entire film on it but I'd like to see it personally.

Tower of Babel

From wikipedia:

Tower of Babel deals with Batman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman)'s perceived betrayal to the superhuman community by keeping records concerning the strengths and weaknesses of his allies in the JLA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League). His files are stolen by Ra's Al Ghul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%27s_Al_Ghul), who uses them to defeat the League through a coordinated attack to prevent them from interfering with his latest scheme.

One of the best of the JLA seriesSounds very interesting. I'll have to read it one of these days. But with it starting with Batman's percieved betrayal, I don't see how they can end it without having Batman saving everyone.



I really hope they do do a BTBATB DTV I think it'd be a superb oppurtunity to have it showcase that shows version of the JLA.

Oh and Legion of Superheroes never had a DTV
Well she did say almost all.

[beyond94]

Cool! I'm looking forward to see what 2012 has to offer. I like how they are telling us the entire slate at once instead of revealling each movie one at a time.

Here's hoping for a movie that has Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and/or Batgirl in it.

I watched Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo the other day and I realized that almost every DC animated series has had a DTV movie except Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Do you think such a movie could happen? I with you for next year's films to add more of Supergirl, Batgirl for the first time and a Wonder
Woman sequel where she fights a female villain. I hope that James Tucker could make a Batman Brave And The Bold movie with the Dick Grayson Robin and
Batgirl and we get to see Commissioner Gordon for the first time.

[suss2it]

I with you for next year's films to add more of Supergirl, Batgirl for the first time and a Wonder
Woman sequel where she fights a female villain.I'd love to see more Wonder Woman, but there's no reason why the villain(s) should just be restricted to females. I say whoever works best for the story. Also more Supergirl & Batgirl please. Maybe they'll forgo a Superman/Batman team-up for a Supergirl/Batgirl team-up, however unlikely that is.
I hope that James Tucker could make a Batman Brave And The Bold movie with the Dick Grayson Robin and
Batgirl and we get to see Commissioner Gordon for the first time.
Dick is currently Nightwing in BatB, besides if they were gonna make a BatB movie, I'd bet it'd feature a lot of the DC characters they've have had rather than restrict themselves to just Gotham characters.

[Otaku-sempai]

I with you for next year's films to add more of Supergirl, Batgirl for the first time and a Wonder
Woman sequel where she fights a female villain. I hope that James Tucker could make a Batman Brave And The Bold movie with the Dick Grayson Robin and
Batgirl and we get to see Commissioner Gordon for the first time.I can't name the episode, but I'm pretty sure that Gordon has shown up in the series already, at least in a cameo.

I'd be interested in a JSA movie, maybe adapting JSA: The Golden Age. Suicide Squad could be interesting; maybe a Teen Titans animated movie (perhaps a story other than "The Judas Contract") or a Young Justice film (seems unlikely for a while after learning of the upcoming miniseries).

[Primal Slayer]

I hope atleast 2 of these fims are team films or teamup films so we get people who arent S/B.

[Green-Ghost]

Bruce Timm announced Justice League: Doom for 2012!
It is written by the late Dwayne McDuffie and it is based on "Tower of Babel" story by Mark Waid.
http://thegreenlanterncorps.com/forum/showpost.php?p=559902&postcount=407

[James Harvey]

Discussion on the upcoming direct-to-video Justice League: Doom animated feature can now be found here (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=280744).

[suss2it]

Not necessarily.

I see a formula that can be successfully repeated.

First Geoff Johns reboots the Green Lantern comic series with Hal Jordan, then an original animated DTV movie (First Flight), next a live -action theatrical film, and another coinciding DTV animated movie (Emerald Knights), to be followed by an animated television series.


First Geoff Johns successfully reboots The Flash comic series with Barry Allen, then an original animated DTV movie (First Run?), next a live -action theatrical film, and another coinciding DTV animated movie (?), to be followed by an animated television series.


There's always room for two animated features -- An animated movie prior to the live-action movie and another animated feature (maybe an anthology) to coincide with the live-action movie.

What's good for The Lantern is good for The Flash!
Except, I don't think they'll do that since in their eyes First Flight wasn't quick enough of a success to warrant a sequel and therefore (along with Wonder Woman) killed any hope of movies without Superman and/or Batman. Unless of course there's a live-action tie-in.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

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I think this is very likely to happen. But for the Flash movie, I think that depends on when ( or if) the live-action movie gets made.




Not necessarily.

I see a formula that can be successfully repeated.

First Geoff Johns reboots the Green Lantern comic series with Hal Jordan, then an original animated DTV movie (First Flight), next a live -action theatrical film, and another coinciding DTV animated movie (Emerald Knights), to be followed by an animated television series.


First Geoff Johns successfully reboots The Flash comic series with Barry Allen, then an original animated DTV movie (First Run?), next a live -action theatrical film, and another coinciding DTV animated movie (?), to be followed by an animated television series.


There's always room for two animated features -- An animated movie prior to the live-action movie and another animated feature (maybe an anthology) to coincide with the live-action movie.

What's good for The Lantern is good for The Flash!



Except that Flash reboot has been awful. No one's been happy about Barry's return, "Flash: Rebirth" was critically panned, and the new Flash on-going has had trouble with delays.

The upcoming crossover "Flashpoint" event might give the book a boost, but the Flash reboot hasn't been even remotely as successful as the Green Lantern reboot was.

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Whether the comic is awful or not is irrelevant. The same formula was attempted and I'm sure it will follow through similarly. The Flash is to Green Lantern practically what Batman is to Superman as far as companion partnerships go.



Except, I don't think they'll do that since in their eyes First Flight wasn't quick enough of a success to warrant a sequel and therefore (along with Wonder Woman) killed any hope of movies without Superman and/or Batman. Unless of course there's a live-action tie-in.


That view by DC and WB may have changed, since the success of Green Lantern and the pending live-action film. Non-comic people are more aware of the DC Universe now, beyond just Batman and Superman, so they may be more open to jump on the next big thing after Green Lantern... which should be The Flash!

[suss2it]

Whether the comic is awful or not is irrelevant. The same formula was attempted and I'm sure it will follow through similarly. The Flash is to Green Lantern practically what Batman is to Superman as far as companion partnerships go.I haven't read Flash: Rebirth, but I don't think the current ongoing is bad. I enjoyed the "Death of the Rogues" story, as well as the Reverse Flash issue. And The Flash is popular since it ranked in the top 10 for February (http://www.diamondcomics.com/public/default.asp?t=1&m=1&c=3&s=237&ai=106335&ssd=) according to Diamond Comics Distribution. Incidentally Green Lantern was number 1.


That view by DC and WB may have changed, since the success of Green Lantern and the pending live-action film. Non-comic people are more aware of the DC Universe now, beyond just Batman and Superman, so they may be more open to jump on the next big thing after Green Lantern... which should be The Flash!I hope you're right. I love superspeedsters, and even though I've only known Wally as Flash, I'm fine with Barry taking the part.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Bleeding Cool have heard from multiple sources (enough with the multiples already) that work is underway on a movie adaptation of Frank Miller and Klaus Janson‘s classic The Dark Knight Returns. As you might have guessed, however, this is to be an animated adaptation, much like the recent All Star Superman or in-the-works Year One.

Fittingly, Year One will come along first, but DKR is already in the early stages of development. According to our sources, several veterans of Batman toons past will be on the crew list, though we’re still trying to confirm who is writing and directing the film.



Animated Movie Of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns Said To Be In The Wor (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=35263)

[Hero Supreme]

Animated Movie Of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns Said To Be In The Wor (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=35263)




Ah, you beat me to it!

I will make one prediction, Bruce Timm Presents: Legends of the Dark Knight will be a bonus feature. Really going out on a limb, right? :)

EDIT: How about a slightly riskier prediction. This will come out next July as a Dark Knight Rises tie in and will sell like gangbusters. I don't have a problem with that but I am sure some will complain that after GL:EW we get Batman, JL with Batman, and then Batman. As long as they are all good I will be reasonably satisfied.

As for Dark Knight Returns getting made, it was really only a matter of time right?

[SaBaWoJuLe]

This would be cool...but, isn't this more R-rated? Would they ever make a DTV that is either rated R or Not Rated at all?

[ktk]

This would be cool...but, isn't this more R-rated? Would they ever make a DTV that is either rated R or Not Rated at all?

why do I have the feeling that this will be vastly inferior to the original?

[suss2it]

This would be cool...but, isn't this more R-rated? Would they ever make a DTV that is either rated R or Not Rated at all?

Possibly. I think Bruce Timm discussed the possibility of doing an R-rated movie. But it may not even be necessary. Look at how much blood & violence they were able to get way in Superman: Doomsday and "Hulk vs Wolverine".

[James Harvey]

Until it is confirmed, the discussion on a rumored The Dark Knight Returns direct-to-video animated feature will be merged with the current "DC Universe" News & Discussion thread.

[RoryWilliams]

Didn't Bruce Timm say that after the failure of the Watchmen, Warner had ruled out R-rated superhero films in any mediums?

[Nexonius]

http://geektyrant.com/news/2011/4/14/warner-bros-developing-frank-millers-the-dark-knight-returns.html

[theRedDeath]

My response to them potentially doing a DKR film:

*takes breath*

"NOOOOOoooooOOOOooooOOooOOoooOOO!!!!"

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[W.C.Reaf]

It all depends on how they tackle it. Wonder Woman had decapitations in it and Hulk vs Wolverine had Wolverine literally ripping chunks out of the Hulk. Let's not forget that the TNBA ep Legends of the Dark Knight had a near perfect scene transition of a pretty dark scene from the comics and that was for kids TV.

They could do the comic without needing a full R rating if they did it right.

[BigFatHairyDeal]

My response is one part intrigue, and one part dread. It would be only the intrigue if there weren't so many copycat stories out there these days.

[RoryWilliams]

My response to them potentially doing a DKR film:

*takes breath*

"NOOOOOoooooOOOOooooOOooOOoooOOO!!!!"

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It's one of the most popular and acclaimed Batman stories ever.

So "YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!"

[the greenman]

This is good news, I was actually waiting to hear this. I figured if they got Miller for Year One, DKR can't be far behind. I can't wait to see shots of these two films. I would guess they are adapting that early Miller artwork which I didn't care for aesthetically. His art told story well, but it wasn't the candy I was used to being spoiled by McFarlane and the Image boys.

Anyway, I imagine they will use that TNBA segment as a template for this film. Which I hear was influential for RR on Sin City as well.

[-batmat-]

Well, I guess they HAD to do a Batman movie in 2012, since The Dark Knight Rises is coming out that year.

Heck, they almost have the same name!

[Otaku-sempai]

Are we sure that this will be a 2012 release? I'll admit that it seems likely, either for the third or fourth quarter--i'm not so certain that it would be earlier than that.

This seems to be a better project for the suggestion that I and others have made for an OAV miniseries, rather than an animated feature film.