"The Dark Knight Rises" Pre-Release Discussion, Part 3 (Spoilers) [Archive]

James Harvey

06-08-2010, 06:00 AM

With The Dark Knight Rises, the sequel to The Dark Knight, scheduled to hit theatres in July 2012, details are slowly starting to come to light. Keep it on this thread to discuss the latest news, speculation, rumors, and more, for this highly-anticipated sequel!

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dark knight acolyte

06-08-2010, 07:34 PM

They did recast a major character in the last movie (Rachel Dawes), which I think does open the door a small (microscopic) crack for the notion that a Joker cameo could be forthcoming in the third installment, but I don't think that will happen. I can see a reference, but I really believe Chris Nolan will avoid a recast out of respect for his own work. Even if Heath were alive, I think that tidy, clean apprehension and final dialogue between Joker and Batman was perfect, leaving an assumed rivalry ahead and the audience salivating for more. Better to leave folks wanting more... while tastefully ending a damn good thing.

As for villains in the third film, Nolan is obviously going to go for a realistic villain (no super-powers) that fits a specific theme. The first movie was fear, the next was escalation, and I get the impression the third movie is identity and perception. Just a guess, from where the last movie left off. Perfect villains for this mold would be Riddler or, my personal hope, Hugo Strange (at least for a role). He can take a creative license on either, and the rogues don't end there. I do personally feel we'll see one major villain and a minor villain. Certainly not Ras, though.... (at least I don't think). And for those who scoff at the notion of Hugo Strange, bear in mind that justifying whether or not the villain will be used solely on their FULL comic book background (i.e. Hugo desiring to BE Batman) doesn't hold merit. As long as Nolan HONORS the source material, he can play with it. It's like clay.... everyone can mold the same thing, but each mold can be different (and will be!).

My final point is- ENOUGH OF THE ROBIN AND BATGIRL CAMEO predictions, wishes, etc. etc. Nolan has already announced that he wants to use these third installment to FINISH THE STORY,which has to mean wrap up the franchise. He seems the careful, calculating director who pays great respect for his work and its polish, not selling out for toys or wants. He just wants a great story. I don't know how Robin, Batgirl, Babs, Oracle, Dick Grayson or any of it pushes the story along aside from to potentially convolute things and leave too many loose ends.

Peace, all!

rggkjg1

06-08-2010, 10:20 PM

My final point is- ENOUGH OF THE ROBIN AND BATGIRL CAMEO predictions, wishes, etc. etc. Nolan has already announced that he wants to use these third installment to FINISH THE STORY,which has to mean wrap up the franchise. He seems the careful, calculating director who pays great respect for his work and its polish, not selling out for toys or wants. He just wants a great story. I don't know how Robin, Batgirl, Babs, Oracle, Dick Grayson or any of it pushes the story along aside from to potentially convolute things and leave too many loose ends.
if there is one big story binding the 3 films together, a 4th film wouldn't hurt it. it would just be a stand alone film. there will no doubt be alot of money and talk thrown around to get everyone back for a 4th film. if it falls appart, i hope they just leave it at that and not reboot it or bring in new cast and crew.

suss2it

06-08-2010, 10:58 PM

if there is one big story binding the 3 films together, a 4th film wouldn't hurt it. it would just be a stand alone film. there will no doubt be alot of money and talk thrown around to get everyone back for a 4th film. if it falls appart, i hope they just leave it at that and not reboot it or bring in new cast and crew.Are you saying that after the 3rd film they should not make any more Batman movies if they can't get the cast and crew?

rggkjg1

06-09-2010, 11:20 AM

Are you saying that after the 3rd film they should not make any more Batman movies if they can't get the cast and crew?Rebooting one of the most iconic comic book/super hero film franchise of the millennial decade in such a brief amount of time will be a terrible decision.

W.C.Reaf

06-09-2010, 11:40 AM

Who said they have to reboot the franchise after the old team leave? They can just continue on like Batman Forever did after Returns, that wasn't a reboot it was just telling a new Batman story with a different director and crew.

Why can't Batman or Spider-Man just continue telling stories set loosely in the continuity of previous films? Why do they need to reboot these films?

rggkjg1

06-09-2010, 12:20 PM

Who said they have to reboot the franchise after the old team leave? They can just continue on like Batman Forever did after Returns, that wasn't a reboot it was just telling a new Batman story with a different director and crew.
which is exactly why they shouldn't do that when nolan and bale are officially finished with batman. haven't we learned anything from batman forever and batman & robin??

Why can't Batman or Spider-Man just continue telling stories set loosely in the continuity of previous films? Why do they need to reboot these films?
they should keep making sequels instead. when the actors and crew are no longer interested, it's time to leave the franchise alone and revive it a number of years later (because they're just going to revive it anyway).

Young Justice

06-09-2010, 01:44 PM

which is exactly why they shouldn't do that when nolan and bale are officially finished with batman. haven't we learned anything from batman forever and batman & robin??

they should keep making sequels instead. when the actors and crew are no longer interested, it's time to leave the franchise alone and revive it a number of years later (because they're just going to revive it anyway).

I think a sequel can be made with different creative direction, different director and/or actors. Batman Forever was not perfect but for me it was better than Returns. Batman & Robin was awful but not because it was a sequel of Burton's Batman, but simply because it was a bad movie.

Incredible Hulk was a loose sequel from Hulk and it worked well. James Bond had done this for years, before the quasi-reboot of Casino Royale and it worked very well. "Living Daylights" and "Goldeneye" were excellent Bond movies.

If Nolan and Bale decide to quit after the 3rd, I think it's OK to continue the franchise with different director and actors. But not to Reboot. This option has to be used only after a considerable amount of time the last franchise has ended. I think is a mistake this Spider-Man reboot we are getting.

Jedigreedo

06-09-2010, 02:23 PM

If Nolan wants to continue and can keep up with what he's already established, then awesome. However, if not, then I'd be perfectly fine with them continuing on after the third movie without Nolan, Bale, etc. as long as a standard in quality is kept. I think such a move would be good for getting further into the Batman mythos that doesn't really fit with Nolan's interpretation, since they could move away from his epic drama and move into more stand alone movies.

CyclonatorZ

06-09-2010, 04:57 PM

rggkjg1

06-09-2010, 05:12 PM

i really don't believe this. from 1997 to now we've made fun of joel schumacher, blamed him for ruining batman, and blamed him for the lack of of superhero/comic book films until the resurgance with x-men and spider-man. i dont want it to sound like i didn't get over it, but when a new director takes over and he has such a negative impact, i have to think as to why they would do a joel schumacher like movie/direction again (for batman or any other movie franchise).

we all know that batman forever and batman & robin were just made to be familiy films and sell action figures. if a new cast/crew are announced, i would have to be skeptical of the true intentions of the people involved. for all we know they might just want a quick buck because its batman, so they figure no matter what, people will go see a batman movie regardless of the actor, director, or quality of the film.

at this point now i feel like movie studios think we're idiots because of the reboots and recasts. maybe thats another reason why i'm so passionately against these reboots and recasting, i feel as if i'm being insulted.

Young Justice

06-09-2010, 05:39 PM

I would honestly argue that, after the third movie, a reboot is the only good option - that is, if DC does want to go through with making a Marvel-like superhero movie continuty. If Thor, Captain America, and then Avengers all do well, there's no doubt that Warner will be wanting to copy their succes by making a united series of DC superhero movies.

The problem is, Nolan's batman never really has been "just another superhero movie series." Instead of simply adapting the comic books with some changes, it seeks to envision what Batman would be like if he was a real person. Thus, instead of lots of unreleastic comic-book stuff like acid vats and magic, we've gotten far more realistic takes Batman's word and characters. Sure, it's still not totally real, but it's far more close to reality than most comic-books are.

With the possible advent of an interconnected DC movie universe, a reboot would allow them to adapt Batman in a way that would fit with Green Lantern, Superman, and the other less-realistic superheroes. Nolan's Batman simply doesn't fit in alongside all those personalities - and starting from scratch would allow them to create a Batman interpretation that would.

Superheroes with Superpowers exiting in real world is not new: Marvels was about it, and Watchmen also.

Nolan universe can be more down to Earth than most comics are, but it's not difficult to engage in a new direction: What if, in the world of Nolan's Batman, a Superman appeared to the public? What would that change?

In comics, Superman was the first superhero (arguably) and Batman came later. But, what if, in Nolanverse, it was the other way around? How Batman and the other Gotham citizens would react to the appearance of Superman?

I think it's a start to creating a more fantastic DC universe, without throwing away Nolan's first Batman movies. It's was like the world was more constricted and realistic before Superman and how his arrival changes things, including Batman and his foes.

i really don't believe this. from 1997 to now we've made fun of joel schumacher, blamed him for ruining batman, and blamed him for the lack of of superhero/comic book films until the resurgance with x-men and spider-man. i dont want it to sound like i didn't get over it, but when a new director takes over and he has such a negative impact, i have to think as to why they would do a joel schumacher like movie/direction again (for batman or any other movie franchise).

we all know that batman forever and batman & robin were just made to be familiy films and sell action figures. if a new cast/crew are announced, i would have to be skeptical of the true intentions of the people involved. for all we know they might just want a quick buck because its batman, so they figure no matter what, people will go see a batman movie regardless of the actor, director, or quality of the film.

at this point now i feel like movie studios think we're idiots because of the reboots and recasts. maybe thats another reason why i'm so passionately against these reboots and recasting, i feel as if i'm being insulted.

I think Batman Forever has its faults but it was not that bad of a movie. Indeed there's a uncut version of it, that was never released that is quite good. Batman & Robin that jumped the Shark in my opinion.

The problem is not the recast, or change in creative direction of a franchise per se. But why this is being done. If it's because a new director comes to the franchise with fresh new ideas, it's OK to recast and stuff. If it's only to continue the franchise to milk it more because it's still profitable, then it's bad.

KCJ506

06-09-2010, 10:59 PM

What went wrong with the old Batman franchise wasn't just simply changing the cast and crew. It was because soccer moms complained about Batman Returns being "too dark and scary" for kids, so WB wanted the movies to be more campy and kid friendly. This was why Burton and Keaton left. It basically suffered the same fate as the old TMNT franchise. Starting off dark and then becoming more kid friendly due to soccer moms.

Anyway now I don't know whether this is true or not.

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/06/09/joseph-gordon-levitt-to-play-the-riddler-in-batman-begins-3/

Director Christopher Nolan trades in the Joker for the Riddler in the next Batman movie and has pegged his ‘Inception’ star, JGL, to star!

What started off as a joke has become a reality —Joseph Gordon-Levitt, who stars in Christopher Nolan’s new film, Inception, is the director’s first pick to play The Riddler in the next installment of the Batman franchise!

“Chris really dug Joseph [as an actor],” a source close to the director tells HollywoodLife.com exclusively. “There was a joke at first between them [on the set of Inception] that Joseph wanted to read for Batman Begins 3 and things heated up as filming continued.”

Adds the insider, “It’s not 100% confirmed that he’s getting [the role of The Riddler] but there’s certainly talk about it. Joseph is definitely on the short list.” This should make fans happy, especially as several fan sites have expressed a wish to see the 500 Days of Summer cutie score the role!

rggkjg1

06-10-2010, 12:27 AM

Anyway now I don't know whether this is true or not.

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/06/09/joseph-gordon-levitt-to-play-the-riddler-in-batman-begins-3/
even though i said earlier that i would consider rumors involving actors who worked with nolan on a non batman film more credible, i'm taking this with a grain of salt because i'm 99% certain we aren't going to see a villian that was used in the previous 4 films. what are some bigger or more known batman villians that arent the joker, two-face, riddler, scarecrow, ect?? this just popped in my mind, how about rupert thorne???!!! you get your main villian and mob villian all into one!

langden alger

06-10-2010, 12:35 AM

even though i said earlier that i would consider rumors involving actors who worked with nolan on a non batman film more credible, i'm taking this with a grain of salt because i'm 99% certain we aren't going to see a villian that was used in the previous 4 films. what are some bigger or more known batman villians that arent the joker, two-face, riddler, scarecrow, ect?? this just popped in my mind, how about rupert thorne???!!! you get your main villian and mob villian all into one!

Don't think it's the best move to use him as the main villain to sell the whole film on. I wouldn't mind if he took over the role of a Falcone type for the next installment, but hoping they do go with one of the Arkham Allumni for the main baddie.

NewcomerDC

06-10-2010, 12:47 AM

Anyway now I don't know whether this is true or not.

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/06/09/joseph-gordon-levitt-to-play-the-riddler-in-batman-begins-3/
I don't think the fans will be too happy about this since most of them wanted Johnny Depp to be Riddler.

langden alger

06-10-2010, 12:56 AM

I would take the Levitt rumors with a jumbo container of Morton's Salt....not that he's not an interesting choice. considering though we've only gotten a small hint of the plot and not even a title yet, I don't think it's going to be just thrown out there like common knowledge that the Riddler is the confirmed Villain-the way the article portrays it. Right now I would lump this in with the Miley Cyrus Batgirl/Eddie Murphy rumors.

KCJ506

06-10-2010, 12:58 AM

I don't think the fans will be too happy about this since most of them wanted Johnny Depp to be Riddler.

The popular choice for Riddler actually is anything but Depp. Seems like just because he expressed interest in the role people think he should get it. Makes me wonder if his name would have even came up if he hadn't.

And no offense to these people but Depp is one of the most unimaginative, unoriginal, and uninspired casting suggestions. And I would be very disappointed in Nolan if he stopped his inspired casting after the first two films and went with such a lazy and predictable choice as Depp. I mean whoever imagined Heath Ledger as the Joker? I wanna be able to see the character. Not some redundant overused A-list actor. Same thing with actresses like Angelina Jolie. People are throwing her name around for Catwoman. She'd just come off as playing herself.

Miyamoto Musashi

06-10-2010, 09:42 AM

Christopher Nolan decided that this third installment in the trilogy will end the story of Batman in live action, cause movies aren't like comic books, a story can't last for so long in this media like it does in that

Information's are that he will use human villains, real humans, humans of the kind you can see in the real world, most likely why they revised the origin of the Joker for The Dark Knight

Nolan also said that the villains in the new movie will come as a surprise, they shall not be revealed until later when the trailers are released

Bat-Fan Beyond

06-10-2010, 11:16 AM

I definitely want either Talia Al Ghul or Catwoman to show up in the film. With the loss of Rachel Dawes, Bruce Wayne/Batman should have some sort of weak romantic rebound with a female character, and who better than one of those femme fatales? I think Kate Beckinsale would be great for either role.

I also would like to see The Riddler as the main villain, but I think it should be a mystery as to who he actually is, with at least three suspects played by actors that have the audience guessing while Batman has to use his detective skills to figure it out, having the riddles as clues.

Young Justice

06-10-2010, 12:57 PM

I also would like to see The Riddler as the main villain, but I think it should be a mystery as to who he actually is, with at least three suspects played by actors that have the audience guessing while Batman has to use his detective skills to figure it out, having the riddles as clues.

That's an excellent idea. What's the point on having Riddler as a villain, if we, audience, would know who he is. The journey of Batman solving the riddles to discover who he is, or what he is after will be much more exciting if we were on Batman shoes all along.

Raidon Makoto

06-10-2010, 01:09 PM

I think the only rumour I liked was David Tennant as The Riddler.
Same here. David Tennant would make a pretty good Riddler.

Spider-Man

06-13-2010, 09:43 AM

Batman 3 starts filing in March! I really can't wait to hear what the plans are for this one.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/06/inception-video.html

ryandcow

06-13-2010, 09:33 PM

The only problem of making it a mystery of who the riddler is that you can't make it Edward Nygma, which would stink as he's such a cool character.

Bat-Fan Beyond

06-14-2010, 01:54 AM

The only problem of making it a mystery of who the riddler is that you can't make it Edward Nygma, which would stink as he's such a cool character.

Not necessarily. You could always have the character use the name Edward Nygma as his alias and have the media call him The Riddler. The name itself is a riddle [E. Nigma = enigma]. It's too contrived to be his real name anyway. His origin as to who he is and why he does what he does as Edward Nygma/The Riddler would probably have to be changed a bit.

PowerZord

07-09-2010, 07:21 PM

*Bump*

Filming for Batman could start Next Year:

Michael Caine, who plays Alfred in the Batman movies, stated at the premiere of Inception that filming for Batman 3 will begin in April for a July 20th, 2012 release date. Check out the clip…

You can find the clip here: http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/144919

Wasn't the filming supposed to start in March? What happened?

langden alger

07-09-2010, 11:55 PM

*Bump*

Filming for Batman could start Next Year:

You can find the clip here: http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/144919

Wasn't the filming supposed to start in March? What happened?

filming dates can hit all kinds of speed bumps. Plans can change day to day I'd imagine. So long as it's within Feb, March or April and we start getting casting and a plot synopsis by December, I'll be really happy.

Kaveh77

07-10-2010, 04:00 AM

I was hoping for someone like Mr. Freeze but we know that wont happen so im rooting for The Riddler and Catwoman.

Soul

07-19-2010, 05:49 PM

Outside of the always present David Tennant rumor, especially with after Inception? I'd be all in favor to see what Levitt could do with The Riddler.

JasonFox

07-19-2010, 08:47 PM

Outside of the always present David Tennant rumor, especially with after Inception? I'd be all in favor to see what Levitt could do with The Riddler.

Levitts Career has been booming as of 2008. And I think he's ready to enter the world of Batman next.

But the resemblences between him and Heath Ledger are uncanny. So I don't know whats going on in Nolans mind.

Spider-Man

08-06-2010, 07:24 PM

Just a rumor that might be worth talking about:

"Ok, the film starts shooting in April 2011 and the rumor mill will not stop running, BUT, one man may have shined some light into the whole foundation to the next Batman 3 Movie. Actor Aaron Eckhart told MTV news at Comic-con that he has been asked by Christopher Nolan to reprise his role as Harvey Dent/ Two Face. We could see a Dark Halloween type of film as Two-Face gears up the freaks to end the mob once and for all."

http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=21176

Just a rumor and I doubt its anything but it might be worth talking about. I don't trust CBM at all (ugly website and very unreliable at times) but I would like to see Two-Face back

Novapocalypse

08-06-2010, 08:26 PM

As much as I'd love to see Eckhart return to play Dent, I doubt it's true. Weren't they holding a funeral for him in the ending scenes of The Dark Knight?

Or was it just a memorial or something?

JasonFox

08-06-2010, 08:39 PM

As much as I'd love to see Eckhart return to play Dent, I doubt it's true. Weren't they holding a funeral for him in the ending scenes of The Dark Knight?

Or was it just a memorial or something?

Yeah Gordon devliers a Eulogy at his funeral.

defunctzombie

08-06-2010, 08:51 PM

Unless we're talking flashback...

Either way, it's a shame but they did kill him at the end of TDK so if they brought him back they'd need to do some 'splaining.

Bat-Fan Beyond

08-06-2010, 10:28 PM

Dent is dead. Let's move on. Bring in The Riddler and Catwoman.

Blue Beetle

08-06-2010, 10:36 PM

The actual movie never shows Two-Face dying, I assumed that he had just been secretly jailed and the funeral was for Harvey who did "die" when he became two-face.

Of course later Nolan said (i think) that he did indeed die, and if he didn't say it then the script did explicitly say he died.

Terminatah

08-07-2010, 03:04 AM

Harvey Dent is 100% dead, but he could totally come back in a flashback. We weren't with him the entire time at the end of The Dark Knight, and it is mentioned that Two-Face killed "five people," but we never really saw who all those people were. Sounds like an ideal setup for something.

-Terminatah

the greenman

08-07-2010, 03:24 AM

I'd love to see james spader as the riddler. He'd be second only to robin williams. I'm just afraid williams will try to push it to comedy instead of creepy like he was in 1hr photo or insomnia.

rggkjg1

08-07-2010, 01:05 PM

langden alger

08-07-2010, 11:11 PM

unfortunately harvey is 100% dead. i have no problem with them changing their minds though :D. the only "true" confirmation for me that dent is dead is because the script says it, yet none of the characters actually say that harvey died. if they wanted harvey to be really dead, why couldn't they just have batman check his pulse or have gordon ask "is he dead?". how about showing a coffin at dent's "funeral" or whatever that was? if it was apparently obvious that dent died, ok, he can't come back. the height dent fell from was not high at all (if anything it was about the same hight batman dropped maroni), and he had dirt breaking his fall. i'd say there's a high chance at survival.

dent can return in a non flashback manner and how he survived can be easily explained. the only thing that would be stupid is if batman and gordon really thought he was dead. hhmmm.

how about this for the opening of batman 3:
it opens up immeidately after the end of the dark knight when batman departs gordon and his son. the cops find gordon and ask what happenend. meanwhile other cops and (maybe medical staff) are looking over dent's body. while gordon is explaining what happenend, someone in the backround exclaims "we have a pulse!". all the attention gets focused on dent and gordon has a shocked/concerned look on his face. maybe because gordon and batman really thought he died, and now gordon only knows dent survived.

again, harvey can easily be brought back and it would make perfect sense. its not like he was shot in the head at point blank range.

I personally wouldn't open the next film with alot of focus on Dent's survival or a continuation of the closing scene.

I would maybe open with a few months or maybe weeks after that point. Batman is having a tough time eluding a police task force while trying to track down another new villan-Riddler most likley, or the remaining mob underworld with ties to 'freaks' like Ivy Scarecrow etc.)Gordon is butting heads with the new DA Janice Porter, who has it out for Batman. Meanwhile we see that she has ties to a shadowy figure that turns out to be Dent. inbetween we could see the develpoment of a new Batcave and a new state of the art vehicle to replace the Batmobile.

so far these are the ideas I've been juggling in my head. I've got to say that even if it turns out to be false, the idea of Dent leading a freak army against the mob with Batman caught inbetween would prob make for a really cool plot.

rggkjg1

10-13-2010, 05:49 PM

the dc vs marvel movie announcement battle continues. tom hardy confirmed for batman 3 to play to be announced character:
http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/13/tom-hardy-confirmed-for-third-batman/

Deadline (http://www.deadline.com/2010/10/tom-hardy-reunited-with-inception-helmer-chris-nolan-on-batman/) has confirmed that Tom Hardy, who recently worked with Christopher Nolan in this Summer’s Inception has been confirmed to be in the third, and final, Nolan Batman installment. Now, no word yet on what is role will be, so calm down with the Riddler claims. Nolan has the reputation of working with a tight circle of actors, so this casting should come to no surprise.
No word yet on the title of “Batman 3″, but I expect that to come sooner rather than later. Hardy definitely has a look to him, but him as a villain is just uncertain at this time.

The third Batman movie is slated for July 20, 2012.
if marvel or dc really want to upstage each other. why dont they announce who hardy or that guy in the spider-man reboot is playing?

Spideyzilla

10-13-2010, 06:06 PM

Not sure what to think: his performance didn't really stand out in Inception as far as I'm concerned.

Cortez2301

10-13-2010, 09:17 PM

You should watch "Bronson". Hardy could have been a possible candidate for the Oscars in that film.

I also think hardy could play Black Mask. I heard Goyer wanted to use him and he would work well in Nolan's universe. You just need the line between subtlety and over-the-topness to be firm.

suss2it

10-14-2010, 02:21 AM

if marvel or dc really want to upstage each other. why dont they announce who hardy or that guy in the spider-man reboot is playing?Playing their cards close to their chests, I guess.

Bat-Fan Beyond

10-14-2010, 04:10 PM

I hope Tom Hardy is not playing Killer Croc as is rumored.

First of all, there are better villains than Croc.

Secondly, If we're already getting The Lizard in the new Spider-Man movie, we don't need Croc which is somewhat similar -- And even if they go with the revamped version of Croc that was used in Batman: Gotham Knight, I still don't like it.

I'll be very disappointed if Nolan uses Killer Croc in the movie and doesn't use Catwoman.

James Harvey

10-27-2010, 11:00 AM

According to a story from The Los Angeles Times (http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/christopher-nolan-reveals-title-of-third-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/), director Christopher Nolan says the new Batman film will be titled The Dark Knight Rises and the Riddler will not be the villain. The film is set for a Summer 2012 debut.

defunctzombie

10-27-2010, 11:25 AM

At least it won't be 3d. That's too gimmicky for this kind of movie.

Funkatron

10-27-2010, 12:40 PM

I'm hoping Talia or Catwoman for the female role and possibly Black Mask for an alternate main villain. Lets hope Joseph Gorden Levitt shows up in there in some role. Wasn't much a fan of his until I saw "Inception"

Jacob T. Paschal

10-27-2010, 12:54 PM

Oh wow, a title at last? Nice, nice. I wonder if this film will have a more positive ending...?

M.O.D.O.K.

10-27-2010, 01:58 PM

At first I wasn't too big on the title. It seemed unoriginal and lazy...but then I remembered that it does tie in to the first movie, Batman Begins. Could we see something from the first movie rear its head on the third?

Michael24

10-27-2010, 03:01 PM

I suppose it's better than Batman Begins, but it does sound more like a working title or a fan-fic title.

I wonder if this film will have a more positive ending...?
I'd be surprised if it did.

jph139

10-27-2010, 03:07 PM

Eh, not too big a fan of the title. I get the idea behind it - I mean, "The Dark Knight" was so huge, they'd hate to lose a single viewer from confusion, however dumb that may sound. But it's not horrible; I can roll with it.

Disappointed in the lack of Riddler, though. My personal favorite, and I could see him working... I just wonder who they'd go with. Catwoman, Penguin, and Riddler are off the table now - if I recall correctly - so... Black Mask? Bane? I can't think of too many others, to be honest...

GregX

10-27-2010, 03:15 PM

I like the title, and frankly, I wasn't banking on Riddler. Not sure why, but everyone seemed to be certain it would be him.

Penguin has been ruled out before. I believe Catwoman has also... but who knows? Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy are both unlikely. So, let's take a look at who that leaves.

Talia al Ghul. This would tie in with the first movie as well, you get a strong villain... and she also fullfills the love interest role that Rachel Dawes left void when the Joker offed her.

Black Mask. He's never been done outside of comics and animation before, he could work.

Hush. Not likely, but I feel he is possible.

Bane. More likely than Hush, and he could be interesting if done right.

Harley Quinn. They already said they won't re-cast the Joker. But if they had concrete Joker plans, they could always give them to Harley.

Those are the five. that immediately come to mind.

Daxdiv

10-27-2010, 03:54 PM

Title seems fitting enough. Though glad to see Nolan not take a step to 3D and deciding to go for an HD approach and IMAX camera experience. If this movie turns out to be as good as Dark Knight was, I might end up seeing it twice, once in the regular theaters, and once in IMAX. But trying to figure out the villain will be tough.

suss2it

10-27-2010, 03:59 PM

Oh wow, a title at last? Nice, nice. I wonder if this film will have a more positive ending...?
This is suppose to be the last movie in Nolan's trilogy right? So you never know it just might have a positive ending.

Talia al Ghul. This would tie in with the first movie as well, you get a strong villain... and she also fullfills the love interest role that Rachel Dawes left void when the Joker offed her.
Talia would be a good choice. And as you said it ties into the first film just like the title.

Bat-Fan Beyond

10-27-2010, 04:15 PM

I say bring in Talia and Catwoman!

Kate Beckinsale as Talia! Angelina Jolie as Selina!

SOLD!

ToonFaithful

10-27-2010, 04:19 PM

Finally, a title and.. it fits with the ending of TDK, I guess.

CyclonatorZ

10-27-2010, 05:45 PM

I like the title, and frankly, I wasn't banking on Riddler. Not sure why, but everyone seemed to be certain it would be him.

Perhaps because he's both one of Batman's most well known rogues and because he would fit right into the Nolan bat-verse. The theme of Batman's identity is so crucial to the first two movies that having a villian solely concerned with that identity would be a natural choice. In addition, he's not nearly as whacked out as villians like Mr. Freeze and Clayface, which just simply wouldn't make sense in a movie series that prizes itself on "realism."

Still, I trust that Nolan knows what's best for the Dark Knight Rises. In addition, there's also the possibility that he will introduce a version of The Riddler that isn't a villian at all - perhaps a private investigator working for Gotham PD, as one person on another site suggested. Who knows...

Kaveh77

10-27-2010, 06:29 PM

Kind of disappointed that they aren't having the Riddler or Mr. Freeze in the last movie:sad: Well who else do we have Bane, Catwoman, Killer Croc, The Penguin, etc.

Bat-Fan Beyond

10-27-2010, 06:44 PM

I find it interesting that Hollywood's new tactic for pre-production publicity is confirming who's not going to be in the movie, rather than spilling who we actually will see.

Confirmed: No Khan in Star Trek 2! -- New rumored villain: Gary Mitchell

Confirmed: No Zod in Superman reboot! -- New rumored villain: Brainiac

Confirmed: No Riddler in Batman 3! -- New rumored villain: Catwoman

DarthGonzo

10-27-2010, 07:24 PM

mgr91686

10-27-2010, 07:48 PM

"The Dark Knight Rises"?

So it's just the title of the last movie with an extra word at the end? That's actually pretty lame. Seems like a desperate attempt to remind people of what this is a sequel to. As if that's even necessary.

Actually I viewed it as an attempt to claim some of The "Dark Knight Returns" glory. But that's just me, as I think weird like that.

Wonderwall

10-27-2010, 07:58 PM

Light Lucario

10-27-2010, 08:10 PM

I kind of liked the the title. Sure, it only has an extra word at the end, but they probably wanted to keep The Dark Knight part of the title after the success of the last movie and Rises does work with what was setup in the ending of The Dark Knight. It has a nice ring to me.

I'm kind of surprised that the Riddler isn't going to be in the movie though. Considering he's one of Batman's more well-known villains and doesn't have huge super powers like some other villains, I was pretty sure that he would be part of the movie. I wouldn't be surprised if Catwoman is in the movie due to Batman losing Rachael during the last movie. I don't think she would be the main villain, but I'm not sure who else could fit in that role for this movie.

DarthGonzo

10-27-2010, 08:12 PM

So like almost every other sequel title that's ever been made.

You missed my point. This is like naming the third Star Wars film "The Empire Strikes Back Again" or the third Indiana Jones movie "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doombringers". I dunno, maybe it's just me.

W.C.Reaf

10-27-2010, 08:21 PM

"The Dark Knight Rises"?

So it's just the title of the last movie with an extra word at the end? That's actually pretty lame. Seems like a desperate attempt to remind people of what this is a sequel to. As if that's even necessary.

Don't forget the previous Batman film titles of Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin. :p

I'm curious to what Nolan's choice of Villain will be. It could be anyone really. Let's face it after the success of The Dark Knight they could put Crazy Quilt as the main villain and they'd still get bums on seats.

GWOtaku

10-27-2010, 08:23 PM

I'm with Lucario. Considering the terrible situation Batman is in at the end of TDK, I would suggest that the title is potentially perfectly appropriate. We'll see.

On an unrelated note, I'm pleased to see Nolan averting the 3D craze for this saga. Given the chance, I'll see TDKR in IMAX.

Knight

10-27-2010, 08:28 PM

I really wasnt that interested in The Riddler being the main villain anyway. Whoever they use im sure they will be great.

The title is ok i guess. Doesnt really matter to me as long as the movie is good.

Im with everyone else hoping for Talia. Shes never been in live action. I would love to see her secretly ploting against Wayne for what happened to her father.

I would like to see Black Mask or a properly done Bane.

Bloody Marquis

10-27-2010, 08:29 PM

"The Dark Knight Rises"?

So it's just the title of the last movie with an extra word at the end? That's actually pretty lame. Seems like a desperate attempt to remind people of what this is a sequel to. As if that's even necessary.
I gotta agree with everyone else and say that whlie the title is a bit awkward, it still fits. And besides, at least they aren't being lazy and calling it TDK2.

defunctzombie

10-27-2010, 09:11 PM

Villains who are "real" enough for Nolan:

Riddler
Penguin
Black Mask
Ventriloquist
Catwoman
Harley
Holiday
Deadshot
Hush

Of those, any of the mob themed would fit the current story. Holiday could actually work, and it would link back to the first movie since Long Halloween inspired it. Since my first choice won't even be considered, I guess I'd like Harley.

Gold Guy

10-27-2010, 09:35 PM

I must say, Deadshot would fit perfectly with the tone of these films.

KCJ506

10-27-2010, 10:01 PM

Aww no Riddler? I was interested in seeing Nolan's take on him. It probably would have gotten people to shut up about he and Joker being too much alike.

rggkjg1

10-27-2010, 10:20 PM

it's a weak title for me. if all the movies had "the dark knight" in the title, it would at least be consistent. maybe they're using "the dark knight" again because it might be the second part of the dark knight (meaning if both movies were all in one script and split up into 2 movies, or if both films were filmed at the same time).

my biggest gripe with the title is that there is no finality in it. this is supposedly nolan's last film, the title should mirror that. i have no problem with the franchise continuing without nolan, as long as they keep the cast. until we get to that point, i'm pretty certain that bale will not be batman if nolan doesn't come back. if that's the case, reboot the franchise again 15-20 years later.

maybe they can call the 4th batman film the dark knight falls (just because it's the opposite of rising) or the dark knight and the boy wonder.

Rud

10-27-2010, 10:27 PM

They should've called this move "The Caped Crusader" (one of his other nicknames), but oh well.

suss2it

10-27-2010, 10:40 PM

Aww no Riddler? I was interested in seeing Nolan's take on him. It probably would have gotten people to shut up about he and Joker being too much alike.Maybe the reason he's not using him is because he thought they were too similar.

if that's the case, reboot the franchise again 15-20 years later.I think 5 years is long enough for a reboot.

KCJ506

10-27-2010, 10:48 PM

Maybe the reason he's not using him is because he thought they were too similar.

I think Nolan knows better. If he were judging the characters from how they were portrayed in Batman Forever, then Two-Face wouldn't have been in TDK. It could be because Riddler didn't fit into the story they're using.

suss2it

10-27-2010, 10:54 PM

I think Nolan knows better. If he were judging the characters from how they were portrayed in Batman Forever, then Two-Face wouldn't have been in TDK. It could be because Riddler didn't fit into the story they're using.What i mean is maybe he had a certain vision for Riddler and thought that it would be to similar to his take on the Joker. I didn't say anything about Batman Forever so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up.

Wonderwall

10-27-2010, 11:21 PM

my biggest gripe with the title is that there is no finality in it. this is supposedly nolan's last film, the title should mirror that.

Why should it? It's a movie about Batman not Nolan so I don't see why that would factor in the title.

suss2it

10-27-2010, 11:25 PM

Why should it? It's a movie about Batman not Nolan so I don't see why that would factor in the title.
Isn't this Nolan's last movie in the trilogy? And Christian Bale said he wasn't gonna do a Batman movie without him, so this movie is the conclusion to their trilogy so it makes sense that it should have a conclusion sounding title.

KCJ506

10-27-2010, 11:32 PM

What i mean is maybe he had a certain vision for Riddler and thought that it would be to similar to his take on the Joker. I didn't say anything about Batman Forever so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up.

Because the majority of the people who say Joker and Riddler are too much alike seem to be basing this off of Carrey's portrayal. I suppose they also thought Two-Face was like Joker as well because in that same movie both characters were portrayed as Joker clones.

DarthGonzo

10-28-2010, 02:10 AM

it's a weak title for me. if all the movies had "the dark knight" in the title, it would at least be consistent. maybe they're using "the dark knight" again because it might be the second part of the dark knight

Or maybe they're just using it again because the term "The Dark Knight" has become synonymous with "insanely high box office". I'm still positive they're sticking with such a familiar title for word association purposes. It would be one thing if all of Nolan's films had "Batman" in the title like the last four films did. But "The Dark Knight" really seems like it should be a standalone title to me and not something that should be outright replacing the name Batman as an ongoing title just because the last one became the third highest grossing film in the US.

Young Justice

10-28-2010, 01:47 PM

I suppose it's better than Batman Begins, but it does sound more like a working title or a fan-fic title.

I'd be surprised if it did.

Batman Begins and other Nolan movies ended in a positive note, so I don't know why wouldn't be the case here. I see this trilogy like Star Wars, the 1st ends positive, 2nd negative and 3rd positive again.

The title also suggests a turnaround for Batman who ends The Dark Knight as a villain then he will "rise" again as a hero.

Isn't this Nolan's last movie in the trilogy? And Christian Bale said he wasn't gonna do a Batman movie without him, so this movie is the conclusion to their trilogy so it makes sense that it should have a conclusion sounding title.

"Dark Night Rises" is quite a conclusion title. Batman began and because of the events of TDK, ended up as a villain in the public's eyes. Now he will "Rise" as a true hero e become the character that we know today. That's an origin trilogy for ya!

Spider-Man

11-11-2010, 04:17 PM

An actress short list for The Dark Knight Rises has turned up online, courtesy of Deadline.

Actresses that Christopher Nolan has been rumored to have met with include Anne Hathaway, Keira Knightley, Blake Lively, Natalie Portman, Naomi Watts and Rachel Weisz. The original article suggests that Nolan is casting for two different female roles, both that of Bruce Wayne's romantic interest and that of a female villain.

The Dark Knight Rises will star returning actors Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Gary Oldman as well as the recently-announced Tom Hardy in an unspecified role. The film will go into production shortly with a release planned for July 20, 2012.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/chris-nolan-lines-up-actresses-for-batfilm/

NewcomerDC

11-11-2010, 04:35 PM

suss2it

11-11-2010, 05:48 PM

While the news may be a bit old, I think that I would choose Anne Hathaway and Natalie Portman (because of what she's doing in Marvel's Thor) for leading lady. Then again, we could see someone else that no one was expecting.We don't know what Portman's gonna be like in Thor, that five minute preview wasn't really enough to see how good she was in that role. However I do think she's a good actress based on her past work like V for Vendetta & Brothers.

I wonder which characters they're casting, I think that Talia might be one and possibly Vicky Vale.

Bat-Fan Beyond

11-12-2010, 09:37 AM

I want Catwoman and Talia, but of the six names given, I'm not sure which actress would be best for each character.

Kate Beckinsale as Talia would have been great.

Maybe...

Keira Knightly = Talia?

Natalie Portman = Catwoman?

Or vice-versa

SSJ Jake

11-12-2010, 03:09 PM

Much as I'd like to see Catwoman portrayed in a more realistic light and not a revenant resurrected by cats biting her fingers who has nine lives, Talia seems like a better choice given Batman's history with her father. I'm just glad Nolan deconfirmed the Riddler. While Ed Nigma has become his own character physically he seems Jokerish. Best to have a newer, much different kind of villain.

the greenman

11-12-2010, 08:12 PM

I think Portman could make an excellent Catwoman. She seems schizo enough to really play the part like no other before.

As for the other female, it would be nice to get Vicki Vale, but who knows. The villian Hardy's supposed to play could be a selected few:

Clayface - as a master of disguise instead of a monster.

Ventriloquist - unlikely, but in name only its easy to imagine a criminal who manipulates others to do his will.

Mad Hatter - would be an interesting addition, especially since they setup a big technology dilemma in the last film.

KCJ506

11-12-2010, 08:22 PM

No to any of those actresses except for Weisz and Watts.

Lively shouldn't even be an option. Great looking girl and a decent actress, but she's already Carol Ferris. I know people playing multiple comic characters is nothing new, but there's only a year between the releases of Green Lantern and TDKR, both from DC.

suss2it

11-12-2010, 08:58 PM

No to any of those actresses except for Weisz and Watts.Why not?

Lively shouldn't even be an option. Great looking girl and a decent actress, but she's already Carol Ferris. I know people playing multiple comic characters is nothing new, but there's only a year between the releases of Green Lantern and TDKR, both from DC.Why should that matter?

defunctzombie

11-12-2010, 09:52 PM

suss2it

11-12-2010, 10:02 PM

I agree with KCJ506, the same actress shouldn't play a character in two superhero movies that close together, especially two from the same brand. It'd be like Christopher Reeve playing both Superman and Batman. To do so would just further that token love interest crap.The love interest isn't a as a big of a role as the headliner anyway. Plus Green Lantern & Dark Knight Returns aren't connected, so I don't see the problem.

Manga4life

11-12-2010, 11:24 PM

I loved both Batman Begins and Batman: The Dark Knight so naturally I feel like I should be really excited for this film, oddly enough I'm kind of not really feeling any kind of level of excitement at the moment. Maybe a big part of it is that the film is still over a year and a half away from release and I have not seen any footage of it yet via a trailer or anything (has it even started filming?), so I guess until that kind of stuff comes along my level of excitement will be minimal at best. I'm sure I'll open right up once the film nears completion and I start seeing commercials for it on TV and whatnot, I'll probably feel more and more giddy for the movie once my friends start to talk about it a little more, hype helps with excitement afterall.

KCJ506

11-13-2010, 04:35 AM

Connected or not her to be playing a love interest in one DC movie and then another in the next year seems a bit off to me. There are millions of talented actresses out there - get someone else who doesn't have a superhero film coming out in the next year.

Mist

11-13-2010, 05:46 AM

Not happy with the casting choices, or the idea or Talia appearing. (And if Talia appears, then that means Ras would be returning too. We don't need Ras, the League of Shadows or anyone associated to return in the next Batman. We already had Ras in Begins, and he was an incredibly dull, generic villain.)

"Lookit me. i talk in big sophisticated words. Did I mention my wife died? Doesn't that make me deep and complicated? GONNA DESTROY GOTHAM NOW."

:sad:

KCJ506

11-13-2010, 06:49 AM

Not happy with the casting choices, or the idea or Talia appearing. (And if Talia appears, then that means Ras would be returning too. We don't need Ras, the League of Shadows or anyone associated to return in the next Batman. We already had Ras in Begins, and he was an incredibly dull, generic villain.)

I have to agree. Talia's only interesting when she's around her father and I don't see Nolan going back to that story. There are plenty of other stories he could do.

If Black Mask is in then Catwoman would be perfect considering they've had stories together in the comics.

Knight

11-13-2010, 08:42 AM

I personally hope we do get Talia. I loved Begins and Ras so I don't have an issue with her possibly popping up.

That said I don't see anyone besides maybe Weisz or Knightly really playing her.

Ducard

11-20-2010, 01:34 AM

New rumor: Tom Hardy is Dr Hugo Strange (http://batman-news.com/2010/11/16/rumor-is-tom-hardy-playing-hugo-strange-in-the-dark-knight-rises/)

defunctzombie

11-20-2010, 01:44 AM

Pfft. Why would they want Strange in this movie? Not exactly a villain to draw audiences in with.

M.O.D.O.K.

11-20-2010, 02:45 AM

Pfft. Why would they want Strange in this movie? Not exactly a villain to draw audiences in with.

You could say the same for Scarecrow, Ra's Al Ghul, and Zsasz. Plus, Strange is a badass in his own right. Check out his early and 70's appearances and his showing in The Batman.

But no, I don't think he's actually showing up.

the greenman

11-20-2010, 09:17 AM

Hmmm, I wonder if Marvel studios might take up issues with the use of that name. I believe they have their Dr. Strange film planned for 2013.

W.C.Reaf

11-20-2010, 11:18 AM

Hmmm, I wonder if Marvel studios might take up issues with the use of that name. I believe they have their Dr. Strange film planned for 2013.

Proffesor Hugo Strange came first though (created in 1940) 23 years before Dr Stephen Strange was made (1963).

I don't see why Marvel would complain since the movie's not going to be called "The Dark Knight Fights Hugo Strange" and even though there might be some confusion among some people it's not something Marvel can do anything about. It'd be like them taking issue with every character named Stark that isn't owned by them.

Also I'll believe a Dr Strange movie is coming out when I see a trailer as Marvel has got some many characters proposed for movies and TV shows at the moment that I doubt even half of them will get made. Like the Runaways movie that was announced after Iron Man was a hit yet nothing's been done with it beyond the announcement.

the greenman

11-20-2010, 12:18 PM

Well right now Marvel is all about the Avengers. Mostly because I think the rights and characters that belong to other studios at the moment hinder them from going all out with going outside of the Avengers circle right now.

As for Hugo Strange, I really won't be looking forward to that character if true. I personally want Ventriloquist.

Young Justice

01-14-2011, 02:06 PM

IGN, on its Weekly Wood video is reporting that Nolan is auditioning Two actress for Two female lead roles: One villian, and other love interest. And that Talia Al Ghul is confirmed and Catwoman is not.

The video is on the home of IGN. I couldn't find a direct link:
http://www.ign.com/

Thoughts?

rggkjg1

01-14-2011, 02:23 PM

what other female characters are there in batman (yes, i know i should know too, but i'm drawing a blank)? i think doing talia and catwoman is just too "obvious". i highly doubt nolan and goyer want to be "obvious" and "predictible" with their lead female characters.

defunctzombie

01-14-2011, 02:41 PM

Talia? What, do they want to set up a possible Damien run?

If you're going for chick villains in a Batman movie, go for the big three: Ivy, Harley, or Catwoman. Talia is such a sub-par character. "Yes Daddy" is practically her catchphrase. At least Harley has the psycho going for her.

Jacob T. Paschal

01-14-2011, 02:45 PM

dmxx116

01-19-2011, 12:51 PM

Anne Hathaway has been cast as Selina Kyle and Tom Hardy will now play Bane :

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110119006432/en/Warner-Bros.-Pictures-Announces-Anne-Hathaway-Christopher

suss2it

01-19-2011, 01:02 PM

James Harvey

01-19-2011, 01:10 PM

Press Release:

BURBANK, CA, January 19, 2011 – Warner Bros. Pictures announced today that Anne Hathaway has been cast as Selina Kyle in Christopher Nolan’s “The Dark Knight Rises.” She will be starring alongside Christian Bale, who returns in the title role of Bruce Wayne/Batman.

Christopher Nolan stated, “I am thrilled to have the opportunity to work with Anne Hathaway, who will be a fantastic addition to our ensemble as we complete our story.”

In addition, Tom Hardy has been set to play Bane. Nolan said, “I am delighted to be working with Tom again and excited to watch him bring to life our new interpretation of one of Batman’s most formidable enemies.”

Nolan will direct the film from a screenplay he wrote with Jonathan Nolan, from a story by Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer. Nolan will also produce the film with his longtime producing partner, Emma Thomas, and Charles Roven.

“The Dark Knight Rises” is slated for release on July 20, 2012. The film will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company.

Lord Dalek

01-19-2011, 01:55 PM

Oh not Bane. ANYTHING but Bane.

defunctzombie

01-19-2011, 01:58 PM

What happened to no Catwoman? I thought that character was on the axe list.

And Bane? Really? Unless he's here to break some back I think it's a waste. Any rendition of him will be better than the Batman and Robin version, but he is so FLAT.

Jacob T. Paschal

01-19-2011, 02:11 PM

Well now.

This is quite awesome.

Now, the long and dreaded wait for costume pictures...and trailers.

suss2it

01-19-2011, 02:16 PM

And Bane? Really? Unless he's here to break some back I think it's a waste. Any rendition of him will be better than the Batman and Robin version, but he is so FLAT.
He isn't one dimensional in Secret Six and he doesn't have to be one dimensional in this either.

Bat-Fan Beyond

01-19-2011, 02:24 PM

Awesome! Can't wait!

I hope we see Hatheway in a Catwoman costume! :)

ShadowGUN

01-19-2011, 02:25 PM

I am surpried they went with Bane after what happened with "Batman & Robin". Anne Hathaway as Catwoman is good choice.

Vanitas

01-19-2011, 02:30 PM

They said no Catwoman; not no Selina Kyle. ;)

And Bane breaking Batman's back would be the perfect way for "the Dark Knight to rise", IMO.

rggkjg1

01-19-2011, 03:45 PM

well, my expectations for the movie are set low now. i really strongly felt we weren't going to see a villian we already saw. i can live with catwoman. but BANE?????? who saw that coming???

suss2it

01-19-2011, 03:58 PM

well, my expectations for the movie are set low now. i really strongly felt we weren't going to see a villian we already saw. i can live with catwoman. but BANE?????? who saw that coming???

Seriously, what's so bad about Bane?

rggkjg1

01-19-2011, 04:07 PM

Seriously, what's so bad about Bane?
nothing. i was 100 percent convinced we weren't seeing a villian we already saw. i also could have sworn that nolan went on the record saying we were going to see new villians. the only thing "bad" about bane is that he was in batman and robin.

suss2it

01-19-2011, 04:08 PM

nothing. i was 100 percent convinced we weren't seeing a villian we already saw. i also could have sworn that nolan went on the record saying we were going to see new villians. the only thing "bad" about bane is that he was in batman and robin.
So far we only know that Bane & Selina Kyle are in this, we don't know that other new villains won't show up.

Michael24

01-19-2011, 04:10 PM

There are still those rumors about Hugo Strange, too, so he could still be the main villain. Bane could just be a henchman of sorts. Bane can be used pretty effectively, as Bruce Timm proved. I'm sure a lot of people, though, only remember his appearance as a dumb brute in Batman & Robin and will wonder if anything useful can be done with him.

Anne Hathaway is an interesting choice for Catwoman. Not someone I would have picked, but better than some of the other rumored actresses that were making the rounds. (Though I was really liking the idea of Kate Beckinsale as Selina.)

ABrown

01-19-2011, 04:17 PM

I am a huge Anne Hathaway fan. However, she does seem like kind of an odd choice for Catwoman.

suss2it

01-19-2011, 04:25 PM

I am a huge Anne Hathaway fan. However, she does seem like kind of an odd choice for Catwoman.

People were saying the same thing when Heath Ledger was chosen as the Joker.

Soul

01-19-2011, 04:27 PM

Hathaway as Selina Kyle and possibly Catwoman herself!? Best news all day.
Bane though? Honestly, I'm trusting Nolan. The man has some huge balls to do it, but we'll see what happens.

W.C.Reaf

01-19-2011, 04:51 PM

Anne Hathaway has been cast as Selina Kyle and Tom Hardy will now play Bane :

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110119006432/en/Warner-Bros.-Pictures-Announces-Anne-Hathaway-Christopher

Hell yes that means we'll get a proper version of Bane from the comics and not the "BANE SMASH!" we've been getting in other media. Seriously why do people only focus just on Bane's strength when he's also managed to outsmart Batman and work out his secret identity?

I trust Nolen will make sure Bane isn’t the muscle bound idiot we’ve been getting and have him be a real threat to Batman.

Robin2099

01-19-2011, 04:52 PM

Ah gotta love the interent. The news breaks that Bane and Selina Kyle are both in this movie and message boards are flooded with "OMG HOW DARE YOU PUT BANE IN A MOVIE!!!" or "OMG WHY CATWOMAN? NOLAN CAN'T WRITE GOOD WOMEN CHARACTERS!!!". Gotta love how Nolan did what is generally considered to be two of the best comic book movies ever and fan boys still won't cut him slack and chose to freak out over everything.

CyclonatorZ

01-19-2011, 05:22 PM

I agree that Anne Hathaway as Catwoman is a bit suprising... but seriously, this is Nolan we're talking about. The guy who cast Heath Ledger as the Joker, a move that most people were very uncertain about at first, and then wowed everyone as it turned out to be one of the most brilliant casting choices in recent memory. If Nolan can do it once, I'm sure he can do it again. ;)

Michael24

01-19-2011, 05:33 PM

I wasn't then and am still not particularly crazy about Ledger's Joker, so I'm not exactly holding my breath with this third film. But I thought The Dark Knight was a little bit better than Batman Begins, so I'm willing to give it a chance, although I'm still squarely on the fence at this point and hoping Nolan could again "wow" me as much as he did with Memento.

Soul

01-19-2011, 05:55 PM

Tom Hardy as Bane makes sense if you see this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKC-FKGMeCY).

CyclonatorZ

01-19-2011, 06:25 PM

Lord Dalek

01-19-2011, 06:32 PM

Bane is like the physical manifestation of everything that was wrong with mid-90s Batman so to see him in the Nolan verse is... depressing.

My two cents.

suss2it

01-19-2011, 06:36 PM

Bane is like the physical manifestation of everything that was wrong with mid-90s Batman so to see him in the Nolan verse is... depressing.

My two cents.

Like what? I haven't read the story he was introduced in, but in Secret Six he doesn't seem as repugnant as you make him sound.

M.O.D.O.K.

01-19-2011, 07:26 PM

Bane is like the physical manifestation of everything that was wrong with mid-90s Batman so to see him in the Nolan verse is... depressing.

My two cents.

No fan of the 90's myself, but if they managed to make Venom actually a good villain in an animated show, then I certainly trust Nolan to make Bane into a great villain.

Light Lucario

01-19-2011, 08:20 PM

Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle and possibly Catwoman if they're going to make her the villain is a nice choice. I could see her doing a really nice job with that role and she seems like a pretty good actress from the movies I've seen her in. I'm not so familiar with Tom Hardy's work though. I'm surprised that they chose Bane. It's not that I don't like the villain, but I didn't think he would be put into this movie. It might be because I've only seen him as one of the few villains physically capable of crushing Batman's body with his bare hands. I could see him being a henchman or assistant to the main villain though. It should be interesting to see the trailer for this movie with these new characters.

Spideyzilla

01-19-2011, 08:48 PM

I just rewatched Inception, and realized something. I trust Nolan. I have lots of faith he will make a great movie. Bane could be done very well. He could be fleshed out to be much more than a thug. Nolan must have a great story, otherwise he would not be using these two characters. Forget my past skepticism: I know this movie will be great. I mean... it's Nolan!

Palin Dromos

01-19-2011, 09:35 PM

Hathaway as Selina is a choice I'm willing to trust. The character needs to be someone the audience can be sympathetic to so that we believe Bruce would be legitimately emotionally confounded by her less than legal proclivities. Anne Hathaway is currently someone audiences accept in a positive light. Thus the possibility that audiences will have difficulty seeing her in even a slightly villainous light can be used for effective cinematic manipulation. Also she's got a very expressive face which would be essential if they covered any of it with a mask.

As for Bane. In the world set up as the end of TDK Batman's an outlaw and being hunted by the authorities. In the comics Bane was a character who was quite effective at hunting down Batman. If I were to hazard a guess at vague story points I'd see Bane coming to Gotham or being brought to Gotham to catch Batman. Have him be setup as a false hero, who is initially successful in thwarting Batman. Eventually Batman would expose Bane as a villain, and reclaim his role as Gotham's hero. Selina can tie into this by being a gray area between hero and villain, challenging Bruce's ideas of his role as a hero, while he's being persecuted by both Bane and the public.

All conjecture, but that's how I'm justifying these announcements.

stephane dumas

01-19-2011, 09:40 PM

Sorry for the inconvience if someone already mentionned it, but I saw some rumors then the Dark Knight Rises might be filmed in Detroit instead of Chicago. I spotted an exterpt from an article of the Detroit News http://www.detnews.com/article/20110107/ENT02/101070414/Detroit-may-stand-in-for-Gotham-City-in-next-%E2%80%98Batman%E2%80%99-film

The third film in the latest Batman franchise may be shot in Detroit, beating out Chicago, reports ReelChicago.com.
Filming of director Christopher Nolan's "The Dark Knight Rises," the sequel to "The Dark Knight," is slated to begin in May and open July 2012. The movie, which is set to star Christian Bale, Tom Hardy, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine, is scheduled to shoot in two locations in England and in New Orleans.

But Michelle Begnoche says Lansing's Michigan Film Office has yet to receive an application from the film's production company. "Until we have the application in hand, it is speculation," says Begnoche, communications advisor for the Film Office. Created in 1979, the Michigan Film Office works to assist and attract incoming TV and film production companies Among other duties, the state department assists in location procurement.

Bat-Fan Beyond

01-19-2011, 10:47 PM

Anybody remember those rumors about Tom Hardy playing Hugo Strange and the plot being based on the story Prey?

Well, that could still be true.

What if in this film Nolan does what he did with Ra's Al Ghul and Henri Ducard in Batman Begins, where he combined the two characters into one, but in this film he combines Bane with Hugo Strange?

Think about it. In Prey, Hugo Strange dresses-up like Batman to take him out and smear his name, so what if Strange takes the Venom-drug and essentially becomes Bane, but instead of wearing a fetishistic mexican wrestling mask, he wears a Batman-like costume --- just like the [forshadowing] imposters did in The Dark Knight.

Tom Hardy as Hugo Strange/Bat-Bane?
http://www.nerdsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Tom-Hardy-Hugo-Strange-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpghttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100215051830/marvel_dc/images/thumb/e/e6/Bat-Bane_001.jpg/476px-Bat-Bane_001.jpg (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100215051830/marvel_dc/images/e/e6/Bat-Bane_001.jpg)

Plus, Catwoman is in Prey, as it takes place early in her career as a thief.

Just a thought.

Yojimbo

01-19-2011, 11:00 PM

What if in this film Nolan does what he did with Ra's Al Ghul and Henri Ducard in Batman Begins, where he combined the two characters into one, but in this film he combines Bane with Hugo Strange? Interesting theory. Could be. I admit this is flimsy but other than Inception, I don't have a knowledge of all of his acting roles. The first thought that came to my mind was "he's British and Bane is Santa Priscan." But in the end, I trust Nolan to pull the movie off. I just want to see what this franchise's version of the Batcave will look like.

Bat-Fan Beyond

01-19-2011, 11:12 PM

I just want to see what this franchise's version of the Batcave will look like.

And don't forget a new Batmobile --which is something else that was introduced in Prey.

BTW, I never actually read Prey, but after earlier rumors of the film being based upon it, I did a little research and think the plot fits well with Nolan's Bat-films and doesn't necessarily contradict any of these new casting rumors. We all know Nolan (and Goyer) like to draw from the comics, yet put their own spin on things, so it still could work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Prey

young101

01-19-2011, 11:36 PM

I was fine with tom hardy. He looks like the type of people nolans casts for his movie. Im ok with anne hatheway as an actress but ive only seen her in a few films (mostly romantic comedies) so i'm not too sure about how i will accept her in nolan's realistic films.

the greenman

01-20-2011, 12:15 AM

Hathaway is young and kinda crazy. She's the yin to Lohan's yang. If I had to choose, it would be between her and Portman.

Hardy was, just alright in Star Trek: Nemesis. I'm not sure what to think about Bane.

Yojimbo

01-20-2011, 12:35 AM

And don't forget a new Batmobile --which is something else that was introduced in Prey.True. But if it gives birth to the Batjet, I am walking out. :p

KCJ506

01-20-2011, 12:43 AM

I have a feeling Hugo Strange will also be in now. He might end up being the one responsible for Bane's existence.

Mist

01-20-2011, 02:12 AM

Ugh. Just.. ugh.

Anne Hathaway? Seriously? What is it with Nolan casting such terrible female leads? First Holmes, then Gylenhall, now Hathaway.

I know it's too early to judge the movie. We don't know the plot or anything. I still want to see it, but I know i'm just going to be terribly annoyed everytime Hathaway is onscreen. Like I said before, I don't know what it is, but something about her just.. "irks" me.

I am not going to pay money to see this in theaters. I'll definitely rent it, because I want to see how the story ends, but I cannot tolerate sitting in a dark theater for 2 1/2 hours watching Hathaway stumble through a scene, trying desperately to act and be seductive. I'd rather watch one of those awful parody movies by Jason Freidberg and Aaron Selzter.

At least Nolan won't be torturing us by having her horse-face pop out at us in Imax 3D. *shudder*

I'm sure Bane will be an okay villain. Not the greatest choice, but I'd rather see him than Hugo or Riddler.

Ah gotta love the interent. The news breaks that Bane and Selina Kyle are both in this movie and message boards are flooded with "OMG HOW DARE YOU PUT BANE IN A MOVIE!!!" or "OMG WHY CATWOMAN? NOLAN CAN'T WRITE GOOD WOMEN CHARACTERS!!!". Gotta love how Nolan did what is generally considered to be two of the best comic book movies ever and fan boys still won't cut him slack and chose to freak out over everything.

Catwoman can be a decent character, but Nolan usually picks terrible actresses to play female leads. Rachel Dawes was a character hated by much of the internet because of Nolan's poor casting choices. Catwoman can be an interesting character, unfortunately, Nolan picked one of the worst actresses in Hollywood to play the part.

Bane i'm not that upset about. Definitely not as good of a villain choice as The Joker, Two-Face or Scarecrow, but I expect to see a decent performance and some cool battle scenes.

I agree that Anne Hathaway as Catwoman is a bit suprising... but seriously, this is Nolan we're talking about. The guy who cast Heath Ledger as the Joker, a move that most people were very uncertain about at first, and then wowed everyone as it turned out to be one of the most brilliant casting choices in recent memory. If Nolan can do it once, I'm sure he can do it again. ;)

I loved The Dark Knight, Memento, and I did like Batman Begins, but I get really irritated by this constant "Nolan is God, he can do no wrong" attitude I see all over the internet. Insomnia was a terribly boring movie. And Inception was an.. okay movie, but had some terrible logic when it came to dreams. It was also kinda dull. Yet people consider it to be the next 2001: A Space Odyessy. Very very overrated.

Nolan's a talented director, but I don't think he's perfect. He's made his share of stinkers.

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Link1130

01-20-2011, 04:51 AM

Nolan's a talented director, but I don't think he's perfect. He's made his share of stinkers.

Certainly people have their own opinions, but I don't think that any of Nolan's movies could be qualified as "stinkers." To me, that implies it was widely panned by critics/general movie goers. I think even Insomnia was generally well received.

Not to say he's perfect or can do no wrong, but her certainly hasn't made "his share of stinkers." Not yet, anyway.

dmxx116

01-20-2011, 07:18 AM

Soul

01-20-2011, 07:53 AM

I linked the trailer last page but here:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n186/Anagrom/Celebirty/tom_hardy-bronson.jpg
That's Hardy in the film "Bronson", the guy can obviously play Bane.

M.O.D.O.K.

01-20-2011, 09:45 AM

As for Bane,Why cast someone who is 5' 9" in Hardy as Bane?? Not to mention Hardy need to be very huge. Perhaps they will use Hardy's real look before he take Venom & then CGI along with camera angle to make him look huge? But at least we know Nolan will fix what Joel Schmucker mess up. :)

Just like Venom when he first debuted, Bane was not exactly the hulking monster we became familiar with. Later artists exaggerated his muscles when he became popular. So, they'll probably go the realistic route and make him big, but not too big.

HG Revolution

01-20-2011, 10:59 AM

I must say, the rumors and early concepts were more exciting than the actual news. If my friend with close connections to WB is to be trusted, there WAS a Johnny Depp Riddler script in the works, and then there was going to be a Dark Knight Returns-esque time-skip scenario with a new actor playing Batman and Cher in talks for Catwoman, but I guess neither scenario worked out.

I must say, it does seem off/racebendy to have Tom Hardy as Bane, a character pretty strongly rooted in a Latino Carribean background. The Ras Al Ghul race change made some sense, not wanting to enter the landmine of Arab terrorist stereotypes and all, but this seems like less excusable whitewashing. Maybe if the "Hardy is Hugo Strange" theory is true and perhaps if they have a Latino actor as the actual Bane, this situation could be remedied. If not, this is another issue to deal with that could be a sign of the "second sequel curse" that seems so especially prevalent with superhero movies.

Bat-Fan Beyond

01-20-2011, 12:50 PM

SSJ Jake

01-20-2011, 02:54 PM

Personally I'm glad about this. I really wanted Selina Kyle and Bane to be in the third movie, especially with Heath Ledger's death preventing the Joker from reappearing and Two-face's demise in The Dark Knight. With Rachael also dead (yay) it left Bruce Wayne open for a new possible love interest. While Talia would have made more sense, I think a Batman mythos isn't complete without a Catwoman. Bane being the villain to close out the trilogy also makes sense considering he broke Batman's back in the comics.

As for the role choices, I say we wait and see. As everyone's mentioned already people at first didn't like the casting of Ledger as the Joker, and he pretty much stole the show.

Wonderwall

01-20-2011, 03:07 PM

I must say, it does seem off/racebendy to have Tom Hardy as Bane, a character pretty strongly rooted in a Latino Carribean background. The Ras Al Ghul race change made some sense, not wanting to enter the landmine of Arab terrorist stereotypes and all, but this seems like less excusable whitewashing. Maybe if the "Hardy is Hugo Strange" theory is true and perhaps if they have a Latino actor as the actual Bane, this situation could be remedied. If not, this is another issue to deal with that could be a sign of the "second sequel curse" that seems so especially prevalent with superhero movies.

I think you're making it a bigger deal than it is. Bane's character isn't so strongly rooted in his heritage like you're making it out to be that he can't be played by a white guy. This isn't like The Last Airbender where it was pretty blatant.

Ducard

01-20-2011, 05:30 PM

Funkatron

01-20-2011, 05:44 PM

io9 has a write up that details Bane's history in DC(Major Spoilers):
http://io9.com/5738053/why-is-this-guy-youve-never-heard-of-christopher-nolans-latest-batman-villain

What interests me is that Bane was once affiliated to Ra's al Gul. Could this be played up in this movie?

CyclonatorZ

01-20-2011, 06:16 PM

Catwoman can be a decent character, but Nolan usually picks terrible actresses to play female leads. Rachel Dawes was a character hated by much of the internet because of Nolan's poor casting choices. Catwoman can be an interesting character, unfortunately, Nolan picked one of the worst actresses in Hollywood to play the part.

I'm curious as to how you think Scarlett Johansson in The Prestige and Ellen Page and Marion Cotillard in Inception were "poor casting choices."

Really, as far as I'm concerned, Nolan has done no wrong so far, and if you go by the critical and commerical reception of all his films, a whole bunch of people agree with me. There's few people in Hollywood who have been able to as consistently score with the critics and audiences as much as he has, and even if some of his films aren't as good as his best, nothing he's done so far is anywhere near what I would call "a stinker."

Bat-Fan Beyond

01-20-2011, 08:55 PM

Hmm. Interesting theory you've got there.

Thank you. I'm interested in seeing if I'm right. :D

Either way, I hope this movie winds up being great -- and is especially better than The Dark Knight when it comes to Bale's Batman, because he really dropped the ball with that horrid voice he was putting on.

dmxx116

01-20-2011, 10:03 PM

I hope Nolan goes for this look for Bane from TNBA it works the tone that Nolan goes for (IMO) And it look so badass on film.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/tnba/bios/bane/m01.gif

Spideyzilla

01-20-2011, 10:15 PM

Bat-Fan Beyond

01-21-2011, 08:29 AM

I hope Nolan goes for this look for Bane from TNBA it works the tone that Nolan goes for (IMO) And it look so badass on film.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/tnba/bios/bane/m01.gif

Ya think? I'm not really sure I agree, but to each their own. It seems too BDSM to me, if you know what I mean.

I'd prefer the Bat-Bane look, as I mentioned in one of my earlier posts.

http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/06/3/9/8/60631783390205997.jpg

Although in the comics Bat-Bane is a totally different character than Bane, I think that wearing the Batsuit (or at least some variation of the mask/cowl) would line up more with what Nolan set up in The Dark Knight with the other Batman imposters. Plus, we already know Nolan doesn't mind slightly altering the identities and personalities of characters (Ra's Al Ghul) if it serves the greater story.

So whether this is the original Bane we all know from the comics and animated shows, or if it's Bat-Bane (Branca, the ex-cop who turned into a Venom-induced murderer from Grant Morrison's run), or if it's a whole new guy using the name (like maybe Hugo Strange?), I'm sure it will still resemble enough of what Bane is about to be convincing and acceptable. Either way, I'm pretty sure we're not going to get the dumbed-down Hulk-like Bane that we saw in the Batman and Robin movie.

Another theory I thought of is that Bane's Venom drug might actually be a derivative of The Scarecrow's fear toxin that does the complete opposite -- Instead of making you fearful, it makes you fearless! And strong, of course, due to some supersteroids.

Ugh. Just.. ugh.

Anne Hathaway? Seriously? What is it with Nolan casting such terrible female leads? First Holmes, then Gylenhall, now Hathaway.

I know it's too early to judge the movie. We don't know the plot or anything. I still want to see it, but I know i'm just going to be terribly annoyed everytime Hathaway is onscreen. Like I said before, I don't know what it is, but something about her just.. "irks" me.

http://www.palzoo.net/file/pic/user/AnneHathaway.jpghttp://blogs.creativeloafing.com/comicproportions/files/2010/06/hughes-catwoman.jpg

Anne Hatheway... she has something. I only ever seen her in one movie, The Devil Wears Prada, but I liked her. She has big eyes and a wide mouth, which if accentuated with the right makeup (and mask), could make her as visually sexy as Catwoman needs to be. This is a high-profile character and, hopefully, it will be a breakout role for her. I really hope she'll show us that she has some range to pull off the edge and sensuality, as well as the physicality, we have to see from her for Selina.

I kind of trust Nolan's decision with choosing her.

Funkatron

01-21-2011, 09:34 AM

If anyone wants to see Hathawayin a more actiony role, they should watch "Get Smart". Loved her in that movie.

Lord Dalek

01-21-2011, 10:13 AM

Certainly people have their own opinions, but I don't think that any of Nolan's movies could be qualified as "stinkers." To me, that implies it was widely panned by critics/general movie goers. I think even Insomnia was generally well received.Nolan's "worst reviewed" film (The Prestige) still managed a 75% fresh rating at RT. So I think Mist is on shaky ground here.

langden alger

01-21-2011, 11:16 PM

Going by this recent news, I could see Hardy playing the gung-ho cop selected by Gordon for his task force. Instead of being hypnotized by Dr. Strange into becoming the Night Scourge, he could instead be transformed into Bane and go on a spree of destruction. I could even see Scarecrow making a third appearance assisting Strange, providing fear toxin to make Bruce hallucinate his parents which makes him question his mission as Batman again. Catwoman could also play into the story as she did in Prey-starting out as a cat burglar who's linked by the media to Batman, putting the two at odds.

I pretty much was shaping my own version of the next Batman in my head much like how it appears they are going. I subbed Strange for the Riddler as the expert recruited by Gotham PD to join the task force and assist in capturing Batman-in the process Riddler would become the one obssesed with Batman's identity. -Sort of a reverse of how the mob looked to Joker as they're answer. In this film it would be Riddler as the Police's answer to solving the bat problem-only to be turned on as Riddler emerges as a crazed villan.

Mist

01-22-2011, 05:30 AM

Nolan's "worst reviewed" film (The Prestige) still managed a 75% fresh rating at RT. So I think Mist is on shaky ground here.

Yeah, poor choice of words on my part. Nolan hasn't really made any "stinkers" yet, just one or two films that I personally, was disappointed by (Insomnia and the very overrated Inception)

So this "Chris Nolan is God" attitude I see on other forums I frequent gets a little irritating. I'm sure he will make a good movie, but i'm not just going to blindly expect perfection just becuase he is the director.

dmxx116

01-22-2011, 10:27 AM

Christian Bale says he would consider doing Batman even after Chris Nolan is done with Dark Knight Rises :

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=29955

(IMO) Bale need to do what RDJ is doing for Marvel for what he going to do for The Avengers next year.

SSJ Jake

01-22-2011, 01:58 PM

I think he should drop the gravely voice in favor of a different disguised voice if he's going to stay Batman. I actually like Bale as Batman but I can see why the voice would be a turn off for some people. And it wouldn't make no sense for him to change the sound of his voice as it's only a disguise.

Knight

01-22-2011, 04:54 PM

I can deal with Hathaway as Selina but I find a 5'9 "Bane" difficult to imagine being the the physically imposing threat he is traditional portrayed as. Also the choice of Hardy means he won't be south american I would assume. But Nolan has yet to disappoint so I hope I enjoy this take.

suss2it

01-22-2011, 08:02 PM

Christian Bale says he would consider doing Batman even after Chris Nolan is done with Dark Knight Rises :

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=29955He didn't say that. He said, " If Chris goes, 'Hey, I've got another story I think could be interesting,' then yeah, great, I'd go do that. "

Bloody Marquis

01-22-2011, 08:54 PM

(IMO) Bale need to do what RDJ is doing for Marvel for what he going to do for The Avengers next year.
First of all, read and check your posts before submitting them. Second, Bale doesn't need to do anything at the moment when it comes to crossovers that are purely speculative at best.

Santino

01-26-2011, 08:47 PM

Just so everyone knows, Bane is half British and half Latino in the source material. So a little make up and a good accent will do just fine with Tom Hardy behind the character.

dmxx116

01-28-2011, 03:00 PM

The rumors keep on coming, with Robin Williams now apparently in the running to play Hugo Strange...

http://batman-news.com/2011/01/28/robin-williams-as-hugo-strange-in-the-dark-knight-rises/#

I like this move if it does happened.

TheVileOne

01-28-2011, 03:14 PM

I can sort of see that. And Williams could use a role like that.

Regarding the use of Bane. I think Bane is a cool character with an iconic look. The problem is I think he's failed to be relevant as a character since the 1990's. I liked Knightfall and thought it was a really good storyline. But when has Bane really been relevant in the bat-mythos besides that?

I will say I did think the Rachel character was the weakest element in both Nolan movies. I wasn't sad to see Rachel go because I never liked the character and I didn't buy or believe in her romance with Wayne at all.

I will say I am interested in how Nolan will approach the Wayne/Batman and Selina/Catwoman dynamic if Catwoman will even figure into the story at all.

Michael24

01-28-2011, 03:33 PM

Interesting. I think Robin Williams as Hugo Strange would greatly increase my interest in The Dark Knight Rises.

M.O.D.O.K.

01-28-2011, 04:10 PM

Regarding the use of Bane. I think Bane is a cool character with an iconic look. The problem is I think he's failed to be relevant as a character since the 1990's. I liked Knightfall and thought it was a really good storyline. But when has Bane really been relevant in the bat-mythos besides that?

That's the same question I keep asking myself about Venom in the Spidey franchise. What makes it a bit worse is that Bane is a character with far more potential, and, as much as I liked his run in Secret Six, he's not much associated with the Bat-mythos anymore.

Bat-Fan Beyond

01-28-2011, 05:52 PM

If this rumor is true, then that blows my theory out of the water that Hugo Strange and Bane are one and the same in the film. But I was still right about thinking this film may possibly still be based on Prey and have Hugo Strange in it.

And if Robin Williams is cast as Hugo Strange, well, that would be frickin' awesome!

Williams wanted to be in one of the other Batman films and was a contender to play The Riddler at one point. Him as Hugo Strange would be great! Williams is even better as a dramatic actor than he is as a comedian, and he would bring the perfect amount of manic psychosis needed for the role! I really hope this rumor is true.

Ducard

02-01-2011, 09:58 PM

The man who started this rumor is backing off now, saying that he was just "thinking out loud". So for now, assume that it is false.

AerostarMonk

02-01-2011, 10:06 PM

Joseph Gordon Levitt In Talks For Role in Dark Knight Rises (http://www.deadline.com/interstitial/?ref=http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/joseph-gordon-levitt-in-talks-to-join-the-dark-knight-rises/)

EXCLUSIVE: Joseph Gordon-Levitt is in talks to reunite with his Inception director Christopher Nolan in The Dark Knight Rises for Warner Bros. I'm not sure what role he'll play, but I'm told that he will be in the movie when Nolan starts production this spring. Gordon-Levitt will be done shooting the Rian Johnson-directed Looper with Bruce Willis and Emily Blunt by then. Gordon-Levitt has the indie Hesher coming out this spring, as well as Live With It, the Jonathan Levine-directed pic about a 27-year old who tries to overcome a cancer diagnosis. CAA-repped Gordon-Levitt established himself with indie films like Brick, the underrated Scott Frank-directed The Lookout, and the Marc Webb-directed (500) Days of Summer. Nolan keeps his films shrouded in secrecy, though he did life the veil recently to disclose (http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/anne-hathaway-wins-selina-kyle-role-in-the-dark-knight-rises/) that Anne Hathaway would play Selina Kyle (Catwoman) and Gordon-Levitt's Inception co-star Tom Hardy will play Bane. What role fits Gordon-Levitt?

I hope this isn't just a rumor. I thought the cast looked a bit empty without the inclusion of JGL.

Ducard

02-01-2011, 10:38 PM

Tom Hardy AND JGL?

Cue music. (http://inception.davepedu.com/)

Jacob T. Paschal

02-01-2011, 10:43 PM

Maybe he'll play...Dick--*shot*

Uh...whatever the role I'm sure it'll be awesome.

JasonFox

02-01-2011, 10:45 PM

Everyone I've talked to is assuming Nightwing...but we'd need Robin first and that really wouldn't work out to well.

I'm thinking along of the lines of Black Mask for JGL (Similar to Scarecrow who was the minor villain).

No matter the role Nolan will make it memorable. Excited since I've loved Gordon-Levitt ever since 3rd Rock from the Sun.

El Dahveed

02-01-2011, 10:59 PM

Joseph Gordon Levitt In Talks For Role in Dark Knight Rises (http://www.deadline.com/interstitial/?ref=http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/joseph-gordon-levitt-in-talks-to-join-the-dark-knight-rises/)

I hope this isn't just a rumor. I thought the cast looked a bit empty without the inclusion of JGL.

This makes sense to me, I was thinking of Inception as a kind of "audition" for him to be in Dark Knight Rises. I'm not sure what role he would fit in as... But Gotham does need a new DA...

And Robin Williams as Hugo Strange? Ehh.... I'm having trouble seeing it, but then again I'm not very familiar with the character aside from the animated series. Even if it is a rumor though, is Strange slated to be in the movie at all?

defunctzombie

02-01-2011, 11:09 PM

Everyone I've talked to is assuming Nightwing...but we'd need Robin first and that really wouldn't work out to well.
If you want to stick to the material you are absolutely right, but I have a feeling something "trivial" like that wouldn't bother him. At this point, Nolan is WB's printing press and whatever he wants I'm sure they'd find a way to make it work.

I like Nightwing, but I'm willing to wait it out for a proper portrayal.

Jacob T. Paschal

02-01-2011, 11:10 PM

Who knows, maybe Bruce will start up a Nolan-verse Batman, Inc. and JGL's character would play one of the new Batmen? :p

Ducard

02-01-2011, 11:23 PM

And Robin Williams as Hugo Strange? Ehh.... I'm having trouble seeing it, but then again I'm not very familiar with the character aside from the animated series. Even if it is a rumor though, is Strange slated to be in the movie at all?
There were earlier rumors of the movie being based on "Prey", a storyline involving Hugo Strange. So it's possible. However, the person who started the Robin Williams rumor recently admitted he was just "thinking out loud" (possibly to get attention), so it's unlikely that rumor has any merit.

As for JGL, he'd make a great Alberto Falcone...

Wounded_Dragon

02-01-2011, 11:37 PM

Couldn't he just be the new District Attorney? There were some job openings in that department after Dark Knight.

Soul

02-02-2011, 12:44 AM

God... I wish he'd be playing The Riddler, even if Nolan initially said "No.", I wouldn't mind him pulling the fast one.
Though the big rumor is that JGL COULD be playing Hugo Strange now, which could be interesting seeing a Younger version of that character.

Bat-Fan Beyond

02-02-2011, 10:56 AM

Though the big rumor is that JGL COULD be playing Hugo Strange now, which could be interesting seeing a Younger version of that character.

Well, it's interesting to see that the rumor of Hugo Strange being in the film is still alive, which still supports the possibility of this being based on the "Prey" story.

And as much as I think Robin Williams would make a great Hugo Strange, if they are basing it on "Prey" I don't see Williams dressing up like Batman and pulling off all the physical aspects needed for Bat-Hugo. So if JGL is playing a younger Hugo Strange, that makes more sense.

But if we do have Hugo Strange, Bane and Catwoman in this film, I sure hope we still have room for Batman himself... and that he doesn't speak like he's constipated.

CyclonatorZ

02-02-2011, 11:33 AM

But if we do have Hugo Strange, Bane and Catwoman in this film, I sure hope we still have room for Batman himself... and that he doesn't speak like he's constipated.

You know, that's the one thing that's always bugged me about The Dark Knight - for some reason, Christian Bale really kicked his "bat-rasp" into overdrive for the sequel. It was much more restrained in Batman Begins, and I kind of wish they had kept it that way.

JasonFox

02-02-2011, 11:38 AM

You know, that's the one thing that's always bugged me about The Dark Knight - for some reason, Christian Bale really kicked his "bat-rasp" into overdrive for the sequel. It was much more restrained in Batman Begins, and I kind of wish they had kept it that way.

I think I'm the only one who really likes Bales voice as Batman, I mean what better way to hide yourself than gruff sounding voice that you couldn't distinguish as being Wayne. Most of the people he interacts with as Batman are people who know or have talked to Bruce Wayne so he pretty much is forced to do the voice.

Wonderwall

02-02-2011, 12:08 PM

I think I'm the only one who really likes Bales voice as Batman, I mean what better way to hide yourself than gruff sounding voice that you couldn't distinguish as being Wayne. Most of the people he interacts with as Batman are people who know or have talked to Bruce Wayne so he pretty much is forced to do the voice.

I don't think anyone disputes the reason behind it. But from a movie goer POV it just sounds stupid and in TDK he really did bump it up a notch. And it's unnecessary because you can change your voice without sounding cartoonish, he did it one time in Batman Begins when he was in the batcave and he sounded different enough but not like he'd been at a Metallica concert the night before. I'd wish he would do that but we'll be stuck with what we have because I don't see it changing.

defunctzombie

02-02-2011, 03:09 PM

Resist... urge... to... link... youtube... :p

I thought the grumbling was okay in places, but when he was talking to the Commissioner it was really corny.

Bat-Fan Beyond

02-02-2011, 03:47 PM

Resist... urge... to... link... youtube... :p

I thought the grumbling was okay in places, but when he was talking to the Commissioner it was really corny.

Yeah, I think that was the worst!

In Batman Begins when Gordon was on the rooftop and said "I never thanked you," Batman's response was gruff, but clear when he said "And you'll never have to" -- it was a great scene and I had no problem with his voice in that film.

But then in The Dark Knight, in the first scene with Gordon and Batman together in the police station, when Batman was speaking I could hardly make out what he was saying. I swear I would have lost it if Gordon had passed him a throat lozenge. And it was even worse at the end with Batman's "sick the dogs on me" speech, which was bearly understandable.

CyclonatorZ

02-02-2011, 05:48 PM

Yeah, I think that was the worst!
And it was even worse at the end with Batman's "sick the dogs on me" speech, which was bearly understandable.

Hm, now that you mention it, that probably is what a bear would sound like if they could actually talk.

Sorry, sorry, I couldn't resist. :p Anyway, am I the only one who actually doesn't want to see Bat-Hugo in the movie? I realize that it's from the comic books, but between Cat-Woman, Bane, and Hugo Strange, I think it would probably over-complicate what is starting to sound like a very complex finale.

JasonFox

02-02-2011, 06:29 PM

Hm, now that you mention it, that probably is what a bear would sound like if they could actually talk.

Sorry, sorry, I couldn't resist. :p Anyway, am I the only one who actually doesn't want to see Bat-Hugo in the movie? I realize that it's from the comic books, but between Cat-Woman, Bane, and Hugo Strange, I think it would probably over-complicate what is starting to sound like a very complex finale.

I wouldn't mind Hugo but I was really hoping for Black Mask. I don't know maybe I've just loved the mobsters in the Nolan-Verse.

CyclonatorZ

02-02-2011, 07:29 PM

I wouldn't mind Hugo but I was really hoping for Black Mask. I don't know maybe I've just loved the mobsters in the Nolan-Verse.

Black Mask would definitely be a great fit for the Nolan-verse, especially since he's pretty normal compared to a lot of Batman's rogues. The only weird thing about him is his mask, and since that usually isn't explained in other adaptions, it wouldn't need to be here either. However, there's so many other more well-known villians than Black Mask that I can understand why Nolan didn't use him.

JasonFox

02-09-2011, 06:32 PM

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/scoops/news/?a=29748

Joseph Gordon-Levitt to play Alberto Falcone AKA Holiday Killer?

Seems almost confirmed!

defunctzombie

02-09-2011, 06:44 PM

Holiday would make sense, considering one of the influences for the series was Long Halloween.

Yojimbo

02-09-2011, 07:24 PM

That's cool. I can see Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto Falcone. :cool::cool:

Bat-Fan Beyond

02-13-2011, 09:22 PM

Catwoman, Bane, maybe Hugo Strange, and now Talia Al Ghul in The Dark Knight Rises?

Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48477)

JasonFox

02-13-2011, 09:30 PM

Catwoman, Bane, maybe Hugo Strange, and now Talia Al Ghul in The Dark Knight Rises?

Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48477)

And Alberto Falcone!

NewcomerDC

02-13-2011, 09:44 PM

JasonFox

02-13-2011, 10:07 PM

Anyone agree that there are too many villains?

They haven't specified Selina Kyle will be a villain but not really. Batman Begins & Dark Knight both had 3 villains.

Palin Dromos

02-13-2011, 10:59 PM

They haven't specified Selina Kyle will be a villain but not really. Batman Begins & Dark Knight both had 3 villains.
One could even argue those films each had more than 3 villains.

Batman Begins:
Scarecrow
Ra's Al Ghul (Watanabe)
Ra's Al Ghul (Neeson)
Carmine Falcone
Joe Chill
Mr. Zsaz

Dark Knight:
Joker
Two-Face
Maroni
Scarecrow
Gamble, The Chechen (all those mob bosses)

The only confirmed villain we have for TDKR is Bane.
They're being coy about 'Catwoman' being in the film let alone her allegiances.
No official confirmation on Talia, yet.
Hugo Strange is still a wild rumor.
Alberto Falcone could easily have as large or small a role as the mob bosses in the previous films. Frankly after what the Joker did to organized crime in TDK someone has to step in.

Nolan et al. seem to like to populate their stories with familiar character names if they fit easily into constraints of characters needed for the plot. Why make up random characters when the comics are filled with useful names that can add more facets for fans in the know.

langden alger

02-13-2011, 11:51 PM

yeah, I'm thinking Catwoman will probably just be walking the line between criminal and vigilante. She'll prob. help Batman out in some way in the finale. Falcone might play the same role in the comics-surrounding himself with 'freaks' which could be a way to throw in quick cameos of villans like Ivy, Riddler, Mad Hatter and yet again Scarecrow. Maybe a way to show how the criminal underworld has now evolved into a battle bewtween the remaining mob and the newly rising freak supervillans.

Knight

02-14-2011, 04:34 PM

One could even argue those films each had more than 3 villains.

Batman Begins:
Scarecrow
Ra's Al Ghul (Watanabe)
Ra's Al Ghul (Neeson)
Carmine Falcone
Joe Chill
Mr. Zsaz

Dark Knight:
Joker
Two-Face
Maroni
Scarecrow
Gamble, The Chechen (all those mob bosses)

The only confirmed villain we have for TDKR is Bane.
They're being coy about 'Catwoman' being in the film let alone her allegiances.
No official confirmation on Talia, yet.
Hugo Strange is still a wild rumor.
Alberto Falcone could easily have as large or small a role as the mob bosses in the previous films. Frankly after what the Joker did to organized crime in TDK someone has to step in.

Nolan et al. seem to like to populate their stories with familiar character names if they fit easily into constraints of characters needed for the plot. Why make up random characters when the comics are filled with useful names that can add more facets for fans in the know.

I once saw someone say its not about how many villains but about how they are used and I agree with that. Nolan is capable of juggling multiple characters.

Road to Gotham

02-16-2011, 03:20 AM

Will Marion Cotillard join The Dark Knight Rises cast?
Appears it will happen.

http://collider.com/marion-cotillard-the-dark-knight-rises/75944/

Vanitas

02-16-2011, 05:12 PM

They haven't specified Selina Kyle will be a villain but not really

Talia Al Ghul, if she is in the film, may not be a villain either.

The only two confirmed villains we've got are Bane and Alberto Falcone, with the latter just there to fill his father and Maroni's shoes as the "crime boss" role in the film.

Ducard

02-16-2011, 06:09 PM

I don't think Alberto Falcone has been confirmed quite yet. There's a good chance he could be in it, though.

Spider-Man

03-02-2011, 04:57 PM

The latest rumor:

As she herself confirmed, Anne Hathaway will be Catwoman in the movie. I can’t tell you what role she has in the beginning, but by the end of the story Catwoman isn’t a villain but rather an ally of Batman. And who are they teaming up to take out?

The League of Shadows.

Headed by Talia Al’Ghul. With Bane, who is her muscle/possible love interest. And with Joseph Gordon-Levitt in tow. Is he playing Black Mask? My source didn’t know, but did know that Levitt is certainly an antagonist and involved with the League of Shadows.

http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/03/02/the-dark-knight-rises-but-against-whom-major-spoilers?

suss2it

03-02-2011, 05:58 PM

The latest rumor:

http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/03/02/the-dark-knight-rises-but-against-whom-major-spoilers?

Sounds really interesting. Hopefully there's some truth to it, because I'd like to see the League of Shadows make an appearance again.

Bat-Fan Beyond

03-02-2011, 06:50 PM

The latest rumor:

http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/03/02/the-dark-knight-rises-but-against-whom-major-spoilers?

Sounds great to me, if true. I've been wanting both Catwoman and Talia in this one ever since the last movie.

But who's going to play Talia? Please, Nolan -- get Kate Beckinsale!

GregX

03-02-2011, 07:04 PM

Sounds great to me, if true. I've been wanting both Catwoman and Talia in this one ever since the last movie.

But who's going to play Talia? Please, Nolan -- get Kate Beckinsale!

It's Marion Cotillard.

Bat-Fan Beyond

03-02-2011, 07:54 PM

It's Marion Cotillard.

That hasn't been confirmed yet. Last I heard, she's pregnant and may not be able to do it.

Eva Green is supposedly another candidate.

But I'm hoping we'll get a surprise announcement that it's Kate Beckinsale.

Knight

03-02-2011, 09:06 PM

If that rumor is true that's incredible, I really would like that. This would truly bring everything full circle and if Talia doesn't appear now the chances of her ever appearing are unlikely I would think.

Young Justice

03-03-2011, 09:37 AM

The latest rumor:

http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/03/02/the-dark-knight-rises-but-against-whom-major-spoilers?

So this mean that we going to see a catfight between Anne Hathaway and Marion Coutillard? <seinfeld quote>growlllll</seinfeld quote>

jph139

03-03-2011, 03:04 PM

Catwoman as an ally is a pretty good idea. I mean, they team up as often as they fight, and with Batman as an outlaw, who better to work with than a thief?

Having Bane as muscle/love interest for Talia reminds me of his episode in BTAS, where the mobsters call him in to take out Batman and that one lady is latching on to him, hoping he'll take over the city. So something like that seems like a good angle to work. I'm just hoping they do Bane justice instead of pinning him as just dumb muscle.

Also, Black Mask? Maybe? Hopefully? I'd like to see it.

Young Justice

03-03-2011, 04:08 PM

Catwoman as an ally is a pretty good idea. I mean, they team up as often as they fight, and with Batman as an outlaw, who better to work with than a thief?

I like the idea of Batman and Catwoman as allies but uncomfortable ones.

I think it's important to maintain some antagonism between them, like Batman trying to convert her as a do gooder and she refusing it or Batman trying to arrest her after they defeated they common enemies and Catwoman fooling him and escaping.

One other theme of antagonism between them should be the "klling the villiains" that Ra's tried to teach Bruce but he refuse it.

Bat-Fan Beyond

03-11-2011, 01:53 PM

Interesting. Could it be...?

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2011/03/11/two-face-rises-aaron-eckhart-is-just-messing-with-us-now-right/

JasonFox

03-11-2011, 01:57 PM

Interesting. Could it be...?

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2011/03/11/two-face-rises-aaron-eckhart-is-just-messing-with-us-now-right/

I always thought it was weird having Gordon speak at Dents funeral at the end of the film (considering they weren't really major friends). Especially in the movie Gordon fakes his own. This is very interesting.

Young Justice

03-11-2011, 03:26 PM

Interesting. Could it be...?

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2011/03/11/two-face-rises-aaron-eckhart-is-just-messing-with-us-now-right/

One thing is certain: The death of Two-Face on screen was very unclear to say the least. It is possible that he is not dead, despite what it was written in the Screenplay.

But...

Since we already have in this movie Catwoman and Bane, and possibly Talia Al Ghul and another villain portayed by Joseph Gordon Lewitt, adding Two-Face in the mix is too crowded even for Nolan standards.

In another reality, where Heath Ledger didn't die, the whole Two Face as main villain and Joker being the Hannibal Lecter to Batman would be an extraordinary film.

M.O.D.O.K.

03-11-2011, 03:57 PM

Eckhart is just trolling people. Nolan has already mentioned that Two-Face died in the second film. Not to mention that Oldman's hint at an "old" villain doesn't really narrow it down.

defunctzombie

03-11-2011, 04:25 PM

I always thought it was weird having Gordon speak at Dents funeral at the end of the film (considering they weren't really major friends).
The way I see it, he was the Police Commissioner who had worked with him in the past, and from the City's viewpoint the perfect guy to speak.

JasonFox

03-11-2011, 10:48 PM

The way I see it, he was the Police Commissioner who had worked with him in the past, and from the City's viewpoint the perfect guy to speak.

Yeah but at Gordens pretend funeral they had the Mayor who seemed much more the perfect guy.

Bat-Fan Beyond

03-11-2011, 10:58 PM

Yeah but at Gordens pretend funeral they had the Mayor who seemed much more the perfect guy.

Sure, and the mayor probably did speak, too, and we just didn't see it, because that would have turned an already long movie into an even longer movie.

Jacob T. Paschal

03-11-2011, 11:10 PM

Sure, and the mayor probably did speak, too, and we just didn't see it, because that would have turned an already long movie into an even longer movie.

Speaking of the mayor, I hope Nestor Carbonell can return to play Mayor Garcia. He didn't have too much to do, but I really liked how he was able to jump on the idea of cleaning up Gotham.

JasonFox

03-18-2011, 09:19 PM

Knight

03-20-2011, 12:23 PM

This movie has a good cast of great actors and the story is really coming full circle like Nolan said it would. Should be epic.

Ducard

03-20-2011, 08:25 PM

Joseph Gordon Levitt now confirmed for Nolan's Final Batman Film The Dark Knight Rises.

http://www.showblitz.com/2011/03/gor...-for-role.html (http://www.showblitz.com/2011/03/gordon-levitt-locks-batman-juno-temple-eyed-for-role.html)

Role unknown still.

EDIT: Now confirmed as Alberto Falcone. Awesome! Levitt is perfect for the part.

Young Justice

03-20-2011, 11:57 PM

Joseph Gordon Levitt now confirmed for Nolan's Final Batman Film The Dark Knight Rises.

http://www.showblitz.com/2011/03/gordon-levitt-locks-batman-juno-temple-eyed-for-role.html

Role unknown still.

EDIT: Now confirmed as Alberto Falcone.

Do you guys think that we actually going to see the Holiday Killer, or just Alberto Falcone, heir of the Gotham's mob trying to defeat Batman, by joining the League of Shadows or something?

The story of the Long Halloween has too many characters that are key to the plot that won't be appearing like Joker, Riddler etc.

This comic book story is also about Harvey Dent becoming Two-Face and the Gotham villains turning from mob thugs to "super" villiains. These events were already addressed in TDK.

Yojimbo

03-21-2011, 05:17 AM

Do you guys think that we actually going to see the Holiday Killer, or just Alberto Falcone, heir of the Gotham's mob trying to defeat Batman, by joining the League of Shadows or something?

The story of the Long Halloween has too many characters that are key to the plot that won't be appearing like Joker, Riddler etc.

This comic book story is also about Harvey Dent becoming Two-Face and the Gotham villains turning from mob thugs to "super" villiains. These events were already addressed in TDK.I'm thinking only a few plots and themes (i.e. the fall of organized crime to the freaks) are being taken from the Long Halloween. I'd guess the murders committed by Holiday Killer will be the case the GCPD fails to solve throughout the movie, especially more so with Gordon's ties "severed" with Batman.

I remember Selina Kyle/Catwoman was one of many suspected to be the Holiday Killer because the .22's were lightweight and more akin to a woman to handle. But Batman disregarded that theory when she helped him capture Mad Hatter and Scarecrow in the comic. Maybe, a similar team up happens in the movie.

Bat-Fan Beyond

03-21-2011, 08:25 AM

I imagine there will be some sort of connection between Catwoman and the Falcone family, with her believing that Carmine Falcone was her father.

Young Justice

03-21-2011, 09:13 AM

I'm thinking only a few plots and themes (i.e. the fall of organized crime to the freaks) are being taken from the Long Halloween. I'd guess the murders committed by Holiday Killer will be the case the GCPD fails to solve throughout the movie, especially more so with Gordon's ties "severed" with Batman.

I don't know. But for me, the whole Holiday Killer plot without the addiction of Gilda Dent as one of the perpetrators seem like a little cheap and poor option. This story is so rich and full of layers. Stripping that just for the sake of having Holiday Killer in the movie I think it's a shame.

I remember Selina Kyle/Catwoman was one of many suspected to be the Holiday Killer because the .22's were lightweight and more akin to a woman to handle. But Batman disregarded that theory when she helped him capture Mad Hatter and Scarecrow in the comic. Maybe, a similar team up happens in the movie.

I imagine there will be some sort of connection between Catwoman and the Falcone family, with her believing that Carmine Falcone was her father.

I think this is more likely. Portraying the ties showed in "Long Halloween", "Dark Victory" and "Catwoman: When in Rome" of Catwoman and the Falcone family, by having Alberto Falcone in the movie.

dmxx116

03-21-2011, 05:21 PM

Joseph Gordon Levitt now confirmed for Nolan's Final Batman Film The Dark Knight Rises.

http://www.showblitz.com/2011/03/gordon-levitt-locks-batman-juno-temple-eyed-for-role.html

Role unknown still.

EDIT: Now confirmed as Alberto Falcone.

UPDATE: Joseph Gordon Levitt is not playing Alberto Falcone:

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/03/21/joseph-gordon-levitt-dark-knight-rises/

Spideyzilla

03-21-2011, 06:06 PM

UPDATE: Joseph Gordon Levitt is not playing Alberto Falcone:

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/03/21/joseph-gordon-levitt-dark-knight-rises/

I'll await further details on this. I think Variety is more reliable than EW. I think.

dmxx116

03-24-2011, 09:45 PM

Juno Temple is Confirmed to join the cast of The Dark Knight Rises :

http://www.showblitz.com/

They say she'll play a "street-smart Gotham girl I'm thinking Black Canary, That would be perfect to bring a non Batman character on to the big screen.

defunctzombie

03-24-2011, 10:23 PM

I'm sorry, but who? I've never heard of this girl.

Yojimbo

03-24-2011, 11:21 PM

I'm sorry, but who? I've never heard of this girl.I remember her from Atonement and one of the romantic interests in Year One.

Jongoco

04-01-2011, 07:25 AM

Major Spoilers

That film opened with a bank robbery sequence shot in IMAX and designed to set up the character of The Joker. This time, instead of a robbery, its a prison break and the fugitive in custody is none other than The Batman. He is being extradited from England back to the States to be tried in Gotham, but getting caught was exactly what The Batman wanted. The authorities supervising his transfer work for the mob and their boss is none other than Alberto Falcone, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt!

more at link:

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-dark-knight-rises-opening-imax-sequence-plot-details-13091

Bat-Fan Beyond

04-01-2011, 08:40 AM

Major Spoilers

more at link:

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-dark-knight-rises-opening-imax-sequence-plot-details-13091

April Fools, right?

Jacob T. Paschal

04-01-2011, 11:54 AM

Hey, we try to keep pre-established threads clean of April Fools shenanigans.

Jongoco

04-05-2011, 04:36 PM

Christopher Nolan said the following on the decision to film in Pittsburgh: "Pittsburgh is a beautiful city. We have been able to find everything we were looking for here, and I am excited to spend the summer in Pittsburgh with our final installment of Batman."

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/-the-dark-knight-rises-set-to-shoot-in-pittsburgh-13138

BatKid

04-08-2011, 06:37 PM

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/social-network-actor-lands-role-176577

'Social Network' Actor Lands Role in 'Dark Knight Rises' (Exclusive)
Josh Pence will have a key part in a flashback sequence in Christopher Nolan's new Batman film.

Josh Pence, who played opposite Armie Hammer as Tyler Winklevoss in The Social Network (where Hammer's face was superimposed on his), has been cast as a young Ra's Al Ghul in Dark Knight Rises, Christopher Nolan's new Batman movie.

The movie's casting has been ultra-secret, although Christian Bale, Gary Oldman and Morgan Freeman are returning to lead a caped crusading cast, which includes Anne Hathaway, Tom Hardy, Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Marion Cottilard.

The story line has also been kept locked up in the Batcave but Pence's casting throws more than a few crumbs to follow. Ra's Al Ghul was played by Liam Neeson in Batman Begins, thus paving the way for a possible return of the supposedly dead character. Also, while the studio never confirmed Cottilard's character, it has been rumored to be that of Thalia Al Ghul, the daughter of Batman's mentor-turned-enemy.

Sources say Pence will appear in scenes that take place 30 years prior to the present story.

Pence, repped by Innovative Artists and Industry Entertainment, recently wrapped Battleship, Universal's big-budget action movie based on the board game, and indie political thriller The Algerian.

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