Joe Quesada promoted to Marvel CCO [Archive]

Hypestyle

06-02-2010, 02:59 PM

AlgeaX

06-02-2010, 03:39 PM

Huh? Didn't he just get made head of Marvel Animation a few months ago? So is he still the Animation Head?

Peter Paltridge

06-02-2010, 10:15 PM

http://www.selectspecs.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/daria-glasses.jpg
I'm so happy, I can barely contain myself.

Raise him higher! Quesada for New York Mayor!

Manga4life

06-02-2010, 10:22 PM

I have no real issue with Joe Quesada, I know some people are skeptical of his decisions and his writing but I am not going to pass judgement on him just yet, he gives a pretty good interview from the ones I have seen and he has come across as likable in most (if not all) of them. Any major reason I should hate him, like maybe some behind the scenes stuff or something?

Congratulations Joe!

Tommy Lawson

06-02-2010, 11:05 PM

Chief Creative Officer:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26489

he will now have oversight over all of Marvel's cross-media endeavors, including animation, but also video games and live action media.

feel free to discuss what this may mean for future Marvel animated projects: theatrical, television/cable, straight-to-DVD, Motion Comics, Internet-exclusive, etc.

There is the upcoming Marvel vs. Capcom 3 video game, so we'll see how the reception to that turns out compared to the first two titles. Is this going to be almost identical to the role that John Lasseter has at Pixar under Disney?

Kaveh77

06-02-2010, 11:06 PM

Why does everyone hate this guy? What "terrible" decisions did he make?

suss2it

06-02-2010, 11:23 PM

Why does everyone hate this guy? What "terrible" decisions did he make?He made Spider-Man make a deal with the devil.

Pepperidge

06-03-2010, 01:50 AM

Why does everyone hate this guy? What "terrible" decisions did he make?

Super Hero Squad was all his idea.

Manga4life

06-03-2010, 07:34 AM

Super Hero Squad was all his idea.

Whats wrong with Super Hero Squad? Some people really enjoy that show and the fact that it's a comic book as well shows that Marvel can cater to both adults and children alike, nothing wrong with that in my opinion. I read online this morning that he was heavily responsible for the storyline in Amazing Spider-Man where Parker had to give up his marrage to Mary Jane, which was a story that the hardcore Marvel fans and Spidey fans loathed, so I can see where they would be skeptical of his creative direction after a story like that, but still, I'm willing to give the guy a chance in his position until I see otherwise.

Beat

06-03-2010, 07:42 AM

Why does everyone hate this guy? What "terrible" decisions did he make?

Super Hero Squad and One More Day.

That about sums it up.

W.C.Reaf

06-03-2010, 08:12 AM

Super Hero Squad and One More Day.

That about sums it up.

When it's put like that it doesn't sound like he's done anything that bad. OK OMD was terrible and screwed up Spider-Man's continuity; however OMD was a little over two years ago. The rest of the Marvel universe and his other eight years seem to suggest he's done a good job at Marvel.

Blackstar

06-03-2010, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Kaveh77 http://www.toonzone.net/forums/images/buttons/marvel/viewpost.gif (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3617934#post3617934)
Why does everyone hate this guy? What "terrible" decisions did he make?

Super Hero Squad was all his idea.

Super Hero Squad wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either. I actually kind of liked the idea of all the Marvel franchises taking place within a single location. Of course, it would have been better if the series had access to Spider Man and his rogues' gallery. SHS was escapist fluff aimed at kids, and as long as Marvel continues to produce stuff for "big kids", I don't see a problem with them producing younger kids' shows.

Kaveh77

06-03-2010, 01:52 PM

I actually thought SHS was a good idea. Great Marvel show for a younger audience.

AlgeaX

06-03-2010, 02:32 PM

I'd just like to note that under Joey Q's tenure as Head of Marvel Animation we lost both Spectacular Spider-Man and Wolverine & The X-Men.

Wonderwall

06-03-2010, 03:37 PM

I actually thought SHS was a good idea. Great Marvel show for a younger audience.

I think SHS gets a bad rap for no reason. Look I don't watch the show but if I had a little kid I'd let him watch it all the time seeing as it's very specifically designed for kids. I don't know why it's such a big deal for older viewers.

I'd just like to note that under Joey Q's tenure as Head of Marvel Animation we lost both Spectacular Spider-Man and Wolverine & The X-Men.

I don't think he had anything to do with that. SSM was already dead as soon as it went to XD which was before Joe I think got his job. I assume Disney had more to do with WaTXM's cancellation as well.

LazyReaper

06-03-2010, 04:05 PM

One More Day. I will never forgive Joe Q for it.

suss2it

06-03-2010, 09:47 PM

I don't think he had anything to do with that. SSM was already dead as soon as it went to XD which was before Joe I think got his job. I assume Disney had more to do with WaTXM's cancellation as well.
I don't think Disney had much to do with WATXM's cancellation, because if they did why not also cancel Iron Man: Armored Adventures? Wouldn't they want to produce their own Iron Man show to coincide with Iron Man's newfound popularity.

Not to mention both were produced by Marvel, which means Disney still gets a piece of the pie no matter where the shows air.

Kaveh77

06-03-2010, 10:19 PM

I'd just like to note that under Joey Q's tenure as Head of Marvel Animation we lost both Spectacular Spider-Man and Wolverine & The X-Men.
Weren't there some legal issues between sony and marvel over ssm? Plus there were budget problems with Wolverine and The X-Men

Antiyonder

06-03-2010, 11:30 PM

I can't speak for why Wolverine and The X-Men wasn't renewed, but Sony has some control of TSSM, and one of the evidence of Sony's involvement: http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=11927

Chris writes...

Hey Greg,
Just wanted to both thank you for the sheer awesomeness of Spectacular Spider-Man, which I think is both the best Spidey cartoon ever and your own best work (not that I don't love Gargoyles, mind you), and ask a couple (non Season 3 related, I can assure you) questions:
1. In "Gangland", what recording of Rigoletto did you use?
2. There are a couple moments in the series where the Green Goblin seems to break the fourth wall: in "The Uncertainty Principle" when he turns to the camera and says, "Anyone else getting deja vu? Oh well, let's run with it!" and in "Opening Night" when he looks up at the camera and says, "I'm in a rhyming mood tonight." Were these meant to have any larger significance or were they just fun breaking-the-fourth-wall jokes?
Thanks again!

Greg responds...

1. The one provided by Sony, because they had the rights to use it.
2. Mostly they're just fun, but it's also being done to show what a Trickster the Goblin is.

As for why Iron Man AA and TSHQ get another Season, my guess is that they were further in development before Disney attempted to purchase Marvel.

Gokou Ruri

06-04-2010, 12:02 AM

I can't speak for why Wolverine and The X-Men wasn't renewed, but Sony has some control of TSSM, and one of the evidence of Sony's involvement: http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=11927

As for why Iron Man AA and TSHQ get another Season, my guess is that they were further in development before Disney attempted to purchase Marvel. I thought it was already established WATX got the axe due to funding dropping out awhile back (since it's second season was in production before IM:AA's second season was). IM:AA and SHS didn't have those problems, and were pretty popular from what I've gathered, so it makes sense to renew them.

I think Joey Q is just being a scapegoat for people to vent their anger on. He has been for years.

Bryangst

06-04-2010, 01:03 AM

Did Joey Q ever finish Daredevil: Father?

WrenchNinja

06-04-2010, 11:09 PM

Why does everyone hate this guy? What "terrible" decisions did he make?
He's the one behind One More Day which completely ruined Peter's character and took away whatever growth he's had the last 20 years, he's the one who wanted Norman Osborn to be the father of Gwen's kids in Sins Past, he's the one who wanted to get rid of all the mutants back during Decimation, keeps giving Bendis control over the Avengers, canceled Mini Marvels for Super Hero Squad, forced Nick Fury and Wolverine to stop smoking and made an all around smoking ban for heroes just because his dad died of lung cancer, and whole lot of other dumb things that I can't think of at the moment.

Peter Paltridge

06-05-2010, 01:06 AM

he's the one who wanted Norman Osborn to be the father of Gwen's kids in Sins Past.
To be fair on this one, if it hadn't been Norman Osborn, it would have been (eeeeeeek) Peter Parker himself, far worse. This was JMS's story and his fault. The difference is, JMS later regretted writing it and wanted it retconned before he left. Quesada loves One More Day so much he's keeping it in readers' faces with OMIT, which he is also writing.

Shredhead

06-05-2010, 03:56 AM

keeps giving Bendis control over the Avengers,

Thats not a bad thing without Bendis Avengers wouldn't even make money. Lets face it before Bendis they never were the money makers they are now. He's what made them popular and he's whats keeping them popular. I'm no fan of Avengers I dont read the book but the sales dont lie. If there one positive thing I can say about Joe Q is he knows whats sales he's a damn good salesman.

As for Joe Q I used to like him but in recent years the man has gone mad with power. Besides what he did to Spider-Man I think his biggest offense is the complete and total mess that has been made of X-Men. He pretty much sidelined the biggest money making property to insure the Avengers got the limelight. Ever since House of M the Xbooks seemed to get the short end of the stick and over the years it seems to be getting worse. Really just look at the upcoming Vampire story and tell me diffrent.

I got a bad feeling him taking over means there wont be much in the X-Men in Videogames and animated projects. I'm just praying Capcom has already finished the roster for MvsC3 before Joe Q had any say in what goes in.

W.C.Reaf

06-05-2010, 05:49 AM

Weren't there some legal issues between sony and marvel over ssm?

Basically Sony gave the TV broadcasting rights back to Marvel, but not the rights to SSM, so the show was pretty much dead when Sony gave the rights back. They wanted to other stuff with the movies rather than cartoon shows since movies make them a lot more money, but they kept the rights to the show because they'd still get money off of the merchandise and DVDs still coming out.

So yeah not Joe Quesada's fault at all.

To be fair on this one, if it hadn't been Norman Osborn, it would have been (eeeeeeek) Peter Parker himself, far worse. This was JMS's story and his fault. The difference is, JMS later regretted writing it and wanted it retconned before he left. Quesada loves One More Day so much he's keeping it in readers' faces with OMIT, which he is also writing.

Yeah JMS wanted to tell the story and Joe Q told him he couldn't have Peter be the father, and JMS changed it to Norman himself. JMS has also admitted that the only reason he wrote that story was because he thought it would get retconned out with OMD.

Also he's doing OMIT because fans have demanded from day one to know what happened at the now changed wedding. He's probably writing it because he knows there's no way it's going to turn out to be a good story, or a well received one, but it's a story that has to be told so he's jumping on the grenade himself.

WrenchNinja

06-05-2010, 11:44 AM

To be fair on this one, if it hadn't been Norman Osborn, it would have been (eeeeeeek) Peter Parker himself, far worse. This was JMS's story and his fault. The difference is, JMS later regretted writing it and wanted it retconned before he left. Quesada loves One More Day so much he's keeping it in readers' faces with OMIT, which he is also writing.
I don't see how the kids being Peter's is worse than them being NORMAN OSBORN'S.

Thats not a bad thing without Bendis Avengers wouldn't even make money. Lets face it before Bendis they never were the money makers they are now. He's what made them popular and he's whats keeping them popular. I'm no fan of Avengers I dont read the book but the sales dont lie. If there one positive thing I can say about Joe Q is he knows whats sales he's a damn good salesman.
I guess I just care more about the quality of the writing then how well the book would be selling. Bendis' decompressed writing style just does not suit the Avengers, imo.

Rick Jones

06-05-2010, 02:14 PM

forced Nick Fury and Wolverine to stop smoking and made an all around smoking ban for heroes just because his dad died of lung cancer
To be fair, I don't think he can really be demonized for that, though I do personally think it's kind of a double standard when compared to the blase use of alcohol in some recent comics I've sen.

Trevor

06-05-2010, 07:17 PM

To be fair, I don't think he can really be demonized for that, though I do personally think it's kind of a double standard when compared to the blase use of alcohol in some recent comics I've sen.

Witht he smoking, when you think about, even Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny were seen smoking cigars and cigarettes in their early cartoons, but that as phased out over the decades as smoking became not as acceptable as it had been in the 1920's to the 1970's. Plus think of how many live action movies and TV shows up to the 1970's featured characters smoking.

Wolverine and Nick Fury giving up smoking is more politically correct nowadays, especially since the comics and cartoons are seen by both kids and adults. So Marvel probably doesn't want to be going against those government anti-smoking ads.

spyke

06-07-2010, 12:25 AM

To be fair, I don't think he can really be demonized for that, though I do personally think it's kind of a double standard when compared to the blase use of alcohol in some recent comics I've sen.

For the most part, I agree with you. However, I think that it is hypocritical for Quesada to ban all of the Marvel heroes from smoking, but he is perfectly fine with the TV-14 language,on panel gory graphic violence,and strong sexual innuendos in Marvel A,T+,and PARENTAL ADVISORY rated superhero books.

Shredhead

06-07-2010, 01:57 AM

Witht he smoking, when you think about, even Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny were seen smoking cigars and cigarettes in their early cartoons, but that as phased out over the decades as smoking became not as acceptable as it had been in the 1920's to the 1970's. Plus think of how many live action movies and TV shows up to the 1970's featured characters smoking.

Wolverine and Nick Fury giving up smoking is more politically correct nowadays, especially since the comics and cartoons are seen by both kids and adults. So Marvel probably doesn't want to be going against those government anti-smoking ads.

Actaully it had nothing to do with Marvel trying to be Politically Correct there were no groups after them it wasn't somethign that was good for buisness. They actaully confirmed the reason for getting rid of smoking it really was because Joe Q hates it and blames it for his fathers death. One of the things I hate about Joe Q is that he does things because of personel reasons not because its good for buisness or creativity. He hates smoking its banned, he hates Mary Jane and marriage its banned (One More Day), and hates there being to many mutants so bam there banned ("no more mutants" House of M).

If they did it for the reasons you stated abouve I wouldn't have any problems with it but to get rid of it cause the guy in charge cant get over his dads death is ridicules.

Dudley

06-07-2010, 09:51 AM

If they did it for the reasons you stated abouve I wouldn't have any problems with it but to get rid of it cause the guy in charge cant get over his dads death is ridicules.

Ya know, some people handle death differently, and though I know changing company policy over something like that is unnecessary, that still isn't a nice thing to say.

He's the one behind One More Day which completely ruined Peter's character and took away whatever growth he's had the last 20 years, he's the one who wanted Norman Osborn to be the father of Gwen's kids in Sins Past, he's the one who wanted to get rid of all the mutants back during Decimation, keeps giving Bendis control over the Avengers, canceled Mini Marvels for Super Hero Squad, forced Nick Fury and Wolverine to stop smoking and made an all around smoking ban for heroes just because his dad died of lung cancer, and whole lot of other dumb things that I can't think of at the moment.

Dang.
I would've definetly preferred a Mini Marvels cartoons over SHS. And I really hate how the mutant population dwindled severely in the comics.

spidl

06-08-2010, 08:29 AM

Thats not a bad thing without Bendis Avengers wouldn't even make money. Lets face it before Bendis they never were the money makers they are now. He's what made them popular and he's whats keeping them popular. I'm no fan of Avengers I dont read the book but the sales dont lie. If there one positive thing I can say about Joe Q is he knows whats sales he's a damn good salesman.

As for Joe Q I used to like him but in recent years the man has gone mad with power. Besides what he did to Spider-Man I think his biggest offense is the complete and total mess that has been made of X-Men. He pretty much sidelined the biggest money making property to insure the Avengers got the limelight. Ever since House of M the Xbooks seemed to get the short end of the stick and over the years it seems to be getting worse. Really just look at the upcoming Vampire story and tell me diffrent.

I got a bad feeling him taking over means there wont be much in the X-Men in Videogames and animated projects. I'm just praying Capcom has already finished the roster for MvsC3 before Joe Q had any say in what goes in.

The Avengers are a big deal because Marvel made them a big deal. There could have been any number of writers who would have taken the Avengers to where they are now. Marvel needs to take more control of the Avengers away from Bendis. He is not suited to writing those type of stories.

Nygma

06-11-2010, 02:29 PM

Basically Sony gave the TV broadcasting rights back to Marvel, but not the rights to SSM, so the show was pretty much dead when Sony gave the rights back. They wanted to other stuff with the movies rather than cartoon shows since movies make them a lot more money, but they kept the rights to the show because they'd still get money off of the merchandise and DVDs still coming out.

So yeah not Joe Quesada's fault at all.

True, but I don't remember Marvel putting up a fight for the rights to the show. And what has he done since his first promotion to deserve a second one?

W.C.Reaf

06-11-2010, 07:12 PM

True, but I don't remember Marvel putting up a fight for the rights to the show. And what has he done since his first promotion to deserve a second one?

We don't know a lot of the inner workings of Marvel so they could've tried to get the rights back but couldn't because Sony still wanted to make money off of it. I think the TV rights were returned around July last year and Marvel announced Ultimate Spidey in April, that's a long time for just to decide on making a new Spidey show.

So it's possible Marvel tried to get the rights back and couldn't.

Nygma

06-11-2010, 10:16 PM

We don't know a lot of the inner workings of Marvel so they could've tried to get the rights back but couldn't because Sony still wanted to make money off of it. I think the TV rights were returned around July last year and Marvel announced Ultimate Spidey in April, that's a long time for just to decide on making a new Spidey show.

So it's possible Marvel tried to get the rights back and couldn't.

Keep in mind Marvel didn't OFFICIALLY become Disney property until the beginning of the year. Also according to one of the members here, the decision was made in February on USM, it just wasn't announced at that point.

Judging by what those at Marvel have said (like Eric Rollman) I'm not entirely convinced they fought for it very hard, if at all. I mean, at that point Sony was just trying to keep the movie rights and was willing to give something to Marvel for it, so why didn't they ask Sony for the rights to the show along with the tv rights? Maybe it might've been too complicated, I don't know; but I'm convinced getting the rights to Spidey on tv is just as complicated (if not more so) as getting the rights to SSM.
But that's just me.

Yeah JMS wanted to tell the story and Joe Q told him he couldn't have Peter be the father, and JMS changed it to Norman himself. JMS has also admitted that the only reason he wrote that story was because he thought it would get retconned out with OMD.JMS was psychic and knew Joe Q was going to retcon Peter's entire marriage with MJ (as well as other events in Peter's history) 3 years before Joe Q actually pulled the trigger on the abortion?:confused:

I guess Pete should've checked with Mephisto on how retconning his history also meant he was going to retcon the current televison shows and movies that were in production?:shrug:

W.C.Reaf

06-12-2010, 05:17 AM

JMS was psychic and knew Joe Q was going to retcon Peter's entire marriage with MJ (as well as other events in Peter's history) 3 years before Joe Q actually pulled the trigger on the abortion?:confused:

They do plan these things out in advance, at that point OMD might've been just "we want to retcon Peter's marriage somehow in the future" without any specifics. But I know JMS said the only reason he did Sins Past was because he was told he could retcon it out later.

It's hard to actually think of OMD as something that was planned and thought out. They had about six months worth of stories done for BND when OMD was finishing up.

AlgeaX

06-21-2010, 01:38 PM

For the most part, I agree with you. However, I think that it is hypocritical for Quesada to ban all of the Marvel heroes from smoking, but he is perfectly fine with the TV-14 language,on panel gory graphic violence,and strong sexual innuendos in Marvel A,T+,aqnd PARENTAL ADVISORY rated superhero books.

Remember kids; Wolverine says no to tobacco, yes to stabbing people in the face!