NICK Rewind Channel?

[JabarR]

I know a lot of you have heard a lot of rumors about the possiblity of a NICK Rewind channel in the works (for so many years). Now if they were to actually do it, how do you guys think they should put it out there? IMO, here's how I think they should do it:

Mornings
Romper Room and Friends
The Great Space Coaster
Pinwheel
Eureka's Castle
Sharon, Lois & Bram's Elephant Show
KidSongs
The Adventures of the Little Koala
Maple Town
Popples
Belle and Sebastian
Readalong
Today's Special

Afternoons
DangerMouse (w/Bananaman shorts)
Count Duckula
Heathcliff
Kidd Video
Salute Your Shorts
Welcome Freshman
Power Rangers (one hour)
M.A.S.K.
Double Dare
Finders Keepers

Evenings/Late Nights
You Can't Do That On Television
RoundHouse
All That (one hour)
Kenan & Kel
The Amanda Show
That 70s Show (one hour)
Are You Afraid Of The Dark?
The Tomorrow People (70s version)
The Monkees
You Can't Do That On Television
All That
RoundHouse
Figure It Out
GUTS
Dawson's Creek
Are You Afraid Of The Dark? (one hour)


Super Retrovision Saturdaze
The New Adventures Of Mighty Mouse
The Adventures Of Heckle & Jeckle w/Quackula
The Beatles
Jackson 5ive
The Osmonds
Mission: Magic!
Kid N Play
New Kids on the Block
The Brady Kids
The New Adventures Of Gilligan
Star Trek
Blackstar
SHAZAM!
(The Secrets Of) Isis
H.R. Pufnstuf
The Bugaloos
Lidsville
Sigmund and the Sea Monsters
Land Of The Lost
Electrawoman & DynaGirl
Space Academy
Jason Of Star Command
ARK II
The Archies
Sabrina, The Teenage Witch (Filmation version)
Groovie Goolies
Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids
(A repeat of some of the lineup)

NICK Rewind Movie Sundays

[Jeff Harris]

I know a lot of you have heard a lot of rumors about the possiblity of a NICK Rewind channel in the works (for so many years).No, there hasn't been rumors of the possibility of a Nick Rewind channel. The only thing involving the Nick Rewind brand was the block that ended in 2006 and the aborted video releases, and that was years ago.

Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but there's no reason to launch a Nick Rewind channel


They're not going to spend a small fortune on such a niche market. The rights to third-party shows alone is one small fortune. Residual costs for the older Nick shows is another.
They don't give a damn about adults. See, Nickelodeon is a kids' network. Kids come first, and it's always been that way.
Some of the shows mentioned are based on properties that aren't on the market anymore and owned by parties not interested in airing them again. M.A.S.K. and The Great Space Coaster might, repeat, MIGHT find a home on The Hub though considering Hasbro owns both shows outright, and they're planning a new Romper Room series there as well.
Some shows will never be seen again. Kidd Video, a property that has numerous 80s videos clips throughout the episodes, will never see the light of day again. You Can't Do That on Television, perhaps one of the main reason for a network existing, is mired in rights/residuals issues with their owner, CTVglobalmedia, and the actors on the show.
If you haven't noticed, Nickelodeon has four outlets that could easily air many of Nickelodeon's older shows, but for some reason (rights, residuals, jerkish behavior), they won't. Pinwheel and Eureeka's Castle could easily air on Nick Jr., Salute Your Shorts, Clarissa, Fifteen, Hey Dude, and many older live-action shows could air on Teen Nick.
That 70's Show? The Osmonds? The Beatles? Really?

[ToonFaithful]

A Nick Rewind channel would be nice. Maybe some of Dan's old shows and a mix of animation would do the trick.

[Silverstar]

A Nick Rewind channel would be nice. Maybe some of Dan's old shows and a mix of animation would do the trick.

True, but the Dan Schneider shows could easily air on TeeNick, and Nicktoons could easily run the older animated shows, if Nick so desired.

I agree that some of these Nick properties could and should be airing somewhere (the ones which aren't bogged down by residual rights and legal/ownership restrictions, that is), but I don't think that Nick needs to launch a whole new channel just for them; those outlets exist now, they could be airing on any 1 of the 4 Nick channels which already exist. Plus, I don't see Nick launching a retro channel under the Nick name since anybody old enough to remember these shows would be an adult by this time, and Nick doesn't cater to adults.

[JabarR]

No, there hasn't been rumors of the possibility of a Nick Rewind channel. The only thing involving the Nick Rewind brand was the block that ended in 2006 and the aborted video releases, and that was years ago.

Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but there's no reason to launch a Nick Rewind channel


They're not going to spend a small fortune on such a niche market. The rights to third-party shows alone is one small fortune. Residual costs for the older Nick shows is another.
They don't give a damn about adults. See, Nickelodeon is a kids' network. Kids come first, and it's always been that way.
Some of the shows mentioned are based on properties that aren't on the market anymore and owned by parties not interested in airing them again. M.A.S.K. and The Great Space Coaster might, repeat, MIGHT find a home on The Hub though considering Hasbro owns both shows outright, and they're planning a new Romper Room series there as well.
Some shows will never be seen again. Kidd Video, a property that has numerous 80s videos clips throughout the episodes, will never see the light of day again. You Can't Do That on Television, perhaps one of the main reason for a network existing, is mired in rights/residuals issues with their owner, CTVglobalmedia, and the actors on the show.
If you haven't noticed, Nickelodeon has four outlets that could easily air many of Nickelodeon's older shows, but for some reason (rights, residuals, jerkish behavior), they won't. Pinwheel and Eureeka's Castle could easily air on Nick Jr., Salute Your Shorts, Clarissa, Fifteen, Hey Dude, and many older live-action shows could air on Teen Nick.
That 70's Show? The Osmonds? The Beatles? Really?


Do you a have a problem with my ideas?

[Rho]

Do you a have a problem with my ideas?

He's just pointing out problems with launching one, chill.

A Nick Rewind channel would be awesome, especially since Nicktoons pretty much only airs older stuff in the middle of the night now.


It could also combine live-action shows like All That, Double Dare, and Clarissa with Nicktoons like Rugrats, Kablam, etc.

I definitely think this should happen, but it probably wouldn't do well.

[JabarR]

He's just pointing out problems with launching one, chill.

A Nick Rewind channel would be awesome, especially since Nicktoons pretty much only airs older stuff in the middle of the night now.


It could also combine live-action shows like All That, Double Dare, and Clarissa with Nicktoons like Rugrats, Kablam, etc.

I definitely think this should happen, but it probably wouldn't do well.

OK, but still just ideas. I know its not gonna happen like that.

[Rex Kamex]

I'd rather they put the old shows on the current channels too. They'd probably bring about somewhat more of an audience than on a new channel most likely aimed at adults who remember those shows.

But I'm not counting on that happening either... =/

[Rho]

I think Nick or TeenNick should do an event similar to "Miranda Madness" and whatnot for Dan Schneider. Have a whole weekend with mini-marathons of all his shows, as well as airing Good Burger and Big Fat Liar. It'd probably be more likely to happen on TeenNick.

Especially since Dan has been a HUGE moneymaker for Nick over the years, pretty much just snapping his fingers and bringing in ratings. It'd be a nice tribute and it'd show some of his older shows (like Guys Like Us...if they acquired it)

[ToonFaithful]

True, but the Dan Schneider shows could easily air on TeeNick, and Nicktoons could easily run the older animated shows, if Nick so desired.

I agree that some of these Nick properties could and should be airing somewhere (the ones which aren't bogged down by residual rights and legal/ownership restrictions, that is), but I don't think that Nick needs to launch a whole new channel just for them; those outlets exist now, they could be airing on any 1 of the 4 Nick channels which already exist. Plus, I don't see Nick launching a retro channel under the Nick name since anybody old enough to remember these shows would be an adult by this time, and Nick doesn't cater to adults.
Nicktoons barely airs their old cartoons. Well they do but they deathslot them. By Dan's shows I meant his older shows like Kenan and Kel, All That, The Amanda Show, etc. A Nick Rewind channel would be nice.

[Ishtar]

I heard a Nick Rewind Channel actually was in the works at one point (presumably to replace NickGAS), but it was put on hold for budget reasons. So instead, they thought it would be more profitable, and easier, to just split Noggin and The-N (now TeenNICK) into separate channels. That would make sense why a few older shows such as Kenan & Kel, The Amanda Show and All That had runs on The-N following it's launch, to test the waters of airing them again.

[Rick Jones]

After NickGAS' demise, I can't really imagine the likelihood of this happening. Nick already has a lot of stations under their umbrella and as much as I'd love to see a retro Nick station, it seems like it would be too much work for too little payoff.

[Blackstar]

It would require a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$ to launch such a channel, and like Jeff Harris already said, I don't see Nickelodeon spending that kind of money on such a niche market. After Nick Rewind failed as a program block, it's a safe bet that Nick won't chance launching it as a 24 hour channel.

[Silverstar]

Nicktoons barely airs their old cartoons. Well they do but they deathslot them. By Dan's shows I meant his older shows like Kenan and Kel, All That, The Amanda Show, etc. A Nick Rewind channel would be nice.

I'm aware that Nicktoons doesn't show a lot of the older Nicktoons anymore, and that the likes of Kenan & Kel and The Amanda Show don't currently air on TeeNick, but there's a reason for that: there doesn't seem to be a big enough demand for them, at least not enough of a demand for them from the audience that Nick is interested in: kids. The crowd wanting to see the return of the shows that are over 10 years old is too niche a market for Nick to want to cater to. If Nick isn't willing to give these shows a run on their established channels (actually, there was a Nick Rewind block for a time on Nick proper, but it wasn't successful), then I don't see them being any more willing to pour money, effort and try to secure advertisers and air space for an entire channel just for older Nick shows.

A Nick Rewind channel would be nice, but it's not going to happen for all of the reason Jeff Harris stated in post #2.

[Rho]

There lies the problem. A lot of TeenNick's target audience wants shows like All That and Amanda Show to air on the network. Last time I checked out the TeenNick forums, there was immense support for those shows having good rerun slots.

[chalmers]

I've been on a 90's Nickelodeon kick for a bit now, but instead of wanting some television channel that I'll probably never have anyway(don't even get TeeNick or Nicktoons), I turned to iTunes. I'm quite happy with their selection of the old Nicktoons, even though there is some stuff that still needs to be released. Their live-action shows are a bit of a different story though, since all they have is stuff like the first season of Clarissa, a few Salute Your Shorts episodes, and a couple other shows like Alex Mack. I'm hoping that eventually they'll put stuff like Pete & Pete up, and finish putting up shows like Rocko, but until then, all I can do is patiently wait.

[MegaJ]

I don't really see the need for a Nick Rewind channel, everyone says they miss the old Nickelodeon shows but really would I watch Alex Mack everyday? No, not really. That's the thing with a Fleeting Demographic and the filter of nostalgia.

However I do think Nickelodeon should do something with the library that they've accumulated, at least with their properties that they own. But it seems like Nick Jr., TeenNick, and Nicktoons are moving on with their own programming. There's no reason why they couldn't put these shows in the late night/early morning hours, but I don't know.

However, I do think Nick is in the process of fazing out the Nick@Nite and the current morning block. Nick@Nite programming is promoted all across the channel with the regular Nick shows (if you remember the "All Nickelodeon" promo) and the morning pre-school block is running with no special branding and with commericals during the shows which I think is a strategy to drive more people to Nick Jr. So perhaps they could air old shows during that time. IDK.

[Kevin the Geek]

I'm hoping that eventually they'll put stuff like Pete & Pete up, and finish putting up shows like Rocko, but until then, all I can do is patiently wait.
The first two seasons of The Adventures of Pete & Pete have been released on DVD. I guess you could buy the DVD sets, if you really want to see the show again.

I own the first season set, and plan on buying the second season set, sometime in the future.

[Silverstar]

There lies the problem. A lot of TeenNick's target audience wants shows like All That and Amanda Show to air on the network. Last time I checked out the TeenNick forums, there was immense support for those shows having good rerun slots.

A handful of teens on a message board doesn't equate a majority. If there were really that many people clamoring to see these shows again and willing to watch them on a regular basis, then the Nick Rewind block that Nick launched back in 2006 would have/should have done substantially better. The only show on that block that did really well was Kenean & Kel.

Besides, there's another fly in the proverbial ointment: re-running the old live-action Nick-produced shows could prove to be a costly process since Nick has to pay the actors who appeared in them residuals every time they air the shows. An entire block or network full of them (combined with the cost of re-acquiring the rights for the 3rd party shows) would be very expensive for Nick.

[Master Toon]

Will people ever understand the situation? It's like no one ever listens to the facts.

[Brandon the man]

i wish those shows would come back too they really need to make a Nick rewind channel one day

[Silverstar]

i wish those shows would come back too they really need to make a Nick rewind channel one day

No, they don't. It would be too much time, money and effort for too niche a market. I personally wouldn't need nor want to see Salute Your Shorts everyday.

What Nick really needs to do is give their old classics proper complete series DVD releases or create Nick Rewind blocks on their already existing channels. But most DVD distributors consider complete series DVD releases with extras to be more coveted by teens and adults, whom Nick doesn't cater to, and it's unlikely that Nick would try a Rewind block again after the first one failed in 2006.

I'm not saying I hate the idea, but I'm realistic enough to know and accept why Nick won't launch a Nick Rewind channel.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

There are two channels that would do well to have Nick Rewind blocks. Nicktoons (naturally for old Nicktoons) and Teen Nick. A whole channel dedicated to older Nick programming is rather uneccessary if they aired their old shows on their pre-existing networks.

[ZumbidoMetal]

If there was even a chance the ship sailed long ago. The best we can hope for is getting more released through Amazon Createspace/VOD, iTunes Store, Zune Marketplace, Netflix Instant, etc.

[Storm Eagle]

Well if they could somehow bring Fifteen back and air it on TeenNick, then I'd be a happy man.

[Zorak Masaki]

Why do people think such a channel would only appeal to teens and adults? Most of Nick's current audience likely havent even heard of older nick shows, so it would be new to them.

[JabarR]

No, there hasn't been rumors of the possibility of a Nick Rewind channel. The only thing involving the Nick Rewind brand was the block that ended in 2006 and the aborted video releases, and that was years ago.

Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but there's no reason to launch a Nick Rewind channel


They're not going to spend a small fortune on such a niche market. The rights to third-party shows alone is one small fortune. Residual costs for the older Nick shows is another.
They don't give a damn about adults. See, Nickelodeon is a kids' network. Kids come first, and it's always been that way.
Some of the shows mentioned are based on properties that aren't on the market anymore and owned by parties not interested in airing them again. M.A.S.K. and The Great Space Coaster might, repeat, MIGHT find a home on The Hub though considering Hasbro owns both shows outright, and they're planning a new Romper Room series there as well.
Some shows will never be seen again. Kidd Video, a property that has numerous 80s videos clips throughout the episodes, will never see the light of day again. You Can't Do That on Television, perhaps one of the main reason for a network existing, is mired in rights/residuals issues with their owner, CTVglobalmedia, and the actors on the show.
If you haven't noticed, Nickelodeon has four outlets that could easily air many of Nickelodeon's older shows, but for some reason (rights, residuals, jerkish behavior), they won't. Pinwheel and Eureeka's Castle could easily air on Nick Jr., Salute Your Shorts, Clarissa, Fifteen, Hey Dude, and many older live-action shows could air on Teen Nick.
That 70's Show? The Osmonds? The Beatles? Really?



If the WWE can make their own channel, TPTB can make a NICK Rewind channel, you understand?

[The Nameless]

Hey, you bumped a thread that hasn't been posted in in almost a year. Well, at least it's sort of relevant.

"The 90s Are All That" is doing well for TeenNick, though I don't think it could serve as the genesis of an entire network. It's not plausible to them, I don't think.

[JabarR]

Hey, you bumped a thread that hasn't been posted in in almost a year. Well, at least it's sort of relevant.

I didn't bump this thread, I just replied to it.


"The 90s Are All That" is doing well for TeenNick, though I don't think it could serve as the genesis of an entire network. It's not plausible to them, I don't think.

Why don't you think a NICK Rewind channel could be possible? If The 90s Are All That block is doing well, then why not make it a channel? Besides, it be a great place for the Power Rangers and the rest of the Saban Library too.

[The Nameless]

Why don't you think a NICK Rewind channel could be possible? If The 90s Are All That block is doing well, then why not make it a channel? Besides, it be a great place for the Power Rangers and the rest of the Saban Library too.

I imagine the novelty would wear off too quickly, for one thing.

[ZumbidoMetal]

WWE is starting a VANITY network. They just took out a 200 million dollar loan with no business plan. It's a failure waiting to happen.

As for a 90's Nick Network? It's not a profitable idea simple as that. Ever wonder why Nick Gas no longer exists or why TV Land is playing less and less classic TV?

[JabarR]

As for a 90's Nick Network? It's not a profitable idea simple as that. Ever wonder why Nick Gas no longer exists or why TV Land is playing less and less classic TV?

Because people rarely watch those channels. A NICK Rewind channel (not a 90s one) would work much better, just like NickToons and TeenNICK. They can show not only classic shows from the 80s and 90s like


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLCg1kb1sA0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRBD9e7aYoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuY_R1_HNzA

They can also show other classic shows that have not aired in years or decades

Even bring back Super Retrovision Saturdaze, but show all classic Sat AM shows all day and all night.

[Silverstar]

Dude, seriously. I get that you're really psyched about this idea, but a Nick Rewind channel just isn't going to happen. It would be too much money to spend on too niche a market. A programming block is the best we can expect.

Anyway, even if such a channel were to happen, don't expect to see the likes of MASK, Voltron, He-Man or Beverly Hills Teens on it. None of those shows are Viacom owned properties. A Nick channel can only air the shows they own or have access to. Acquiring 3rd party shows costs money, and Viacom wouldn't make that money back because advertisers aren't willing to sink money for airtime onto a channel that doesn't show anything new.

My advice: just enjoy the '90's Are All That' block while it's here. An entire retro Nick channel is destined to be nothing more than a pipe dream.

[JabarR]

Dude, seriously. I get that you're really psyched about this idea, but a Nick Rewind channel just isn't going to happen. It would be too much money to spend on too niche a market. A programming block is the best we can expect.

Anyway, even if such a channel were to happen, don't expect to see the likes of MASK, Voltron, He-Man or Beverly Hills Teens on it. None of those shows are Viacom owned properties. A Nick channel can only air the shows they own or have access to. Acquiring 3rd party shows costs money, and Viacom wouldn't make that money back because advertisers aren't willing to sink money for airtime onto a channel that doesn't show anything new.

My advice: just enjoy the '90's Are All That' block while it's here. An entire retro Nick channel is destined to be nothing more than a pipe dream.


As I said before, if WWE can make their own channel, so can Viacom for a NICK Rewind network!!!! They're showing a lot of the old stuff overseas and nostalgia is really big over there and there's also the Retro Television Network, HELLLLOOOO???!!!!!

[Silverstar]

As I said before, if WWE can make their own channel, so can Viacom for a NICK Rewind network!!!! They're showing a lot of the old stuff overseas and nostalgia is really big over there and there's also the Retro Television Network, HELLLLOOOO???!!!!!

First, calm down. No need to shout.

Second, we don't know how well the proposed WWE channel is going to do (or even if it's eventually going to make it to the air at all). It's a long road between here and there, so the WWE channel isn't best example to cite in favor of your argument.

Third, we're not talking about overseas. We're talking about here. Domestically, nostalgia's not that chic right now.(Case in point: the current states of Boomerang, Nick @ Nite, TV Land and Toon Disney.) Just because the 90's block is doing OK on TeeNick doesn't mean that there's a market for a Nick Rewind channel. there's a BIG difference between initiating a programming block and launching a 24/7 channel. You have to secure airspace, line up sponsors, find buyers, put together a suitable schedule for each programming day and make it appealing enough so a large number of viewers will be willing to subscribe to it.

There's more time, money and effort that goes into making a new channel that many people seem to think; it's not as simple as saying, "I've got a great idea for a new channel, go make it!" Plus, the novelty behind such a venture would wear off fairly quickly, note the channels I cited above. Why should Viacom spend that kind of money and go through all the trouble of launching an entire channel for their older shows when they're already doing a block for them and releasing many of them on DVD?

Instead of crying for a Nick Rewind channel, we should be thankful that Viacom is showing their old stuff any love at all. To reiterate, a retro programming block is the best we can hope to expect in today's market.

[Light Lucario]

I don't think a Nick Rewind Channel is likely to happen either. Even with the 90's Are All That block doing well enough to air every day, I don't think that means that they'll go all the way for a new channel. As cool as it sounds, it probably would require more time, money and effort in creating a channel than Nick is willing to put out for its older shows. I think it might be more likely to see Nick turn out more DVDs of its older shows due to the success of their 90's block, as well as how I've noticed that they've been releasing quite a few older cartoons on DVD, but that's probably the best we can hope for in regards to seeing their older shows beyond their block on TeenNick.

[ToonsLover]

A lot of people on the '90s Are All That Facebook page were asking for their own channel. The admins replied that if it were to happen, it would take a couple years to create.