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DarkAngel
03-26-2002, 10:16 PM
Well, I'm not sure how I feel about the episode. I felt the same way Jim did about the amnesia angle, and that opinion didn't change at the beginning of this ep. But with the entry of the doctor, I've gone from uncertain to baffled. This clearly has something do with Teri's health condition, and we'll likely get an explanation now for those stomach pains she'd been experiencing soon.

The situation with Alexis completely threw me. I never considered that his life might be in danger. This certainly throws a wrench in Jack's plans and looks like it's jeopardized his relationship with the Senator. The only good thing out of all this is that the older Drazen has suffered big time for going after Bauer and Palmer. Of course, if he does lose his brother, it's only going to enrage him further, but at least in some form, it's payback for what he and his people have done.

And Kim probably won't be helping matters any. Overall, I can't honestly say I care much for where we're headed, at least for the next episode or two. This installment seemed too chaotic compared to past eps. Maybe I'm wrong, but the amount of setbacks and problems is just getting to be too much. I really hope the next episode slows things down a bit.

Borg4of3
03-26-2002, 10:50 PM
I agree, while still powerful in so many aspects, the overall story this time around seems cluttered and going in so many directions to become too confusing. We have Teri's amnesia, we have Drazen's contingency plan, we have Palmer/Keith with the tape, we have Bauer grasping at straws, we have Kim's lovelife, and Nina's affair, among other smaller details. Add to that one big lucky coincedence popping up with the phone call at the end. Hopefully these threads tie themselves together soon, lest they bog down what still is a great show.

One thing this show hasn't drooped on is its expert building-up of suspense, especially shown in the Nash scenario this time around. It was neat to see how CTU prepped up for a plan like this, clearing the halls, talking to Nash, placing monitors, keeping a SWAT team nearby, etc. And once Alexis finally showed up, it was wrenching showing Nash constantly doing the wrong thing and saying the wrong things, plus that whole shocking 'baiting' scene! And the ending to that was COMPLETELY unexpected! To the last second I didn't think she'd do what she did.

A few more notes. Mason is proving to be a good QB, being right when arguing with Tony and ending up right on the Nash case. If there's a mole, it aint him. Also, it was nice to see Palmer and Bauer in conflict. It showcases their differences; Palmer being more human and Bauer being more professional. And both Teri and Kim's scenarios are, albeit seemingly out in left field, getting interesting. Teri with 'Phil' seems like our expectations about Teri having an affair could end up right. And Kim/Rick/PersonLady triangle with added bonus of the late Dan's owed payments seems to be a sitcom of its own.

DarkAngel
03-26-2002, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Borg4of3
One thing this show hasn't drooped on is its expert building-up of suspense, especially shown in the Nash scenario this time around. It was neat to see how CTU prepped up for a plan like this, clearing the halls, talking to Nash, placing monitors, keeping a SWAT team nearby, etc. And once Alexis finally showed up, it was wrenching showing Nash constantly doing the wrong thing and saying the wrong things, plus that whole shocking 'baiting' scene! And the ending to that was COMPLETELY unexpected! To the last second I didn't think she'd do what she did.

A few more notes. Mason is proving to be a good QB, being right when arguing with Tony and ending up right on the Nash case. If there's a mole, it aint him. Also, it was nice to see Palmer and Bauer in conflict. It showcases their differences; Palmer being more human and Bauer being more professional. And both Teri and Kim's scenarios are, albeit seemingly out in left field, getting interesting. Teri with 'Phil' seems like our expectations about Teri having an affair could end up right. And Kim/Rick/PersonLady triangle with added bonus of the late Dan's owed payments seems to be a sitcom of its own.

You're completely right about the scenes surrounding the Nash/Alexis situation. That's the kind of pacing I'd like to see overall. It felt completely right.

And yeah, Mason seems completely legit. His decision-making was dead on. But if there is a mole, it has to be either him, Tony, or Nina, right? They've all been seemingly on the right side.

If Teri was having an affair, though, would she really have been so upset about Nina and Jack? Afterall, she did know Jack had been seeing someone. Jack had been straight with her about that. Perhaps its her own guilt with Jack being an outlet for her emotion? Like you said, this plot line is out in left field, but it's piqued my interest. I'm curious about where this is headed.

Jedi Knight
03-27-2002, 01:02 AM
Wow, awesome episode! Once again, the twists were completely unexpected. For some reason, I totally expected Nash to be dead by the end of the episode, but she just goes all psycho on Drazen! I love this show!

Some notes on the episode:
1) Who the hell is this Dr. Parslow??? (I'm thinking it's the guy she had an affair with while Jack was with Nina)
2) Who is Drazen meeting in the red baseball cap and why does he have to pay him?
3) I still think Mason is up to "something". He's not necessarily a traitor, but there's just something about him I can't figure out.
4) Maybe Rick was just all suspicious 'cause he didn't want his girlfriend to find out about everything? (And he doesn't want to get arrested, I guess)

Damn, I can't wait for next week!!

Evil Dr. Reef
03-27-2002, 11:21 AM
Well how the Hell about that?

I was very much expecting something to happen with Alexis and Ms. Nash, but her getting him wasn't it. And who the hell is the man in the "Red Baseball Cap"?

My theories:
1. The man in the Baseball cap is one of the other hitmen, or possibly another mole inside CTU.
2. The doc who shows up to help Teri had "something" going on with her during her & Jack's seperation.
3. Palmer is going to get rid of the tape of Carl & Keith's conversation.

Next week looks spectacular.

Spider-Man
03-27-2002, 11:26 AM
The was a pretty stacked episodes, and barely anyoone outside of Jack got alot of screentime. I'm a it mixed on Teri's amnesia. It seems just really cheesey and weird, but it's being handled better than a daytime soap would handle it. Hopefully this doctor guy will tell us why Teri is having these cramps.

I'm still enjoying the Palmer aspect of the episode. I'm interested to see what he'll do with the tape

The scene between the assistant and Alexis was intense. It had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. Would she get killed? Would she get the bug in? I was hoping she's get in and out but then she had to flip out. If only things went as planned.

I think this may be the weakest episode of the series so far, but it's still far better than most shows on television. The series has been completely amazing, and this episode was just a bit less entertaining than usual. I'm still pretty excited for next week, of course!

oranthal
03-27-2002, 03:33 PM
the guy with the red baseball cap, did he say that he has the money or asked if Drazen had the money? i didn't quite catch it. i would think that Drazen would be the one who had the money but why he need to pay the guy with the red baseball cap. if it is the guy with the red baseball cap who has the money, why would Drazen need it? either way, i'm confused.

redDragon
03-27-2002, 07:29 PM
Interesting ep. Everytime it went back to Teri I kept on thinking that the people at the restaurant were in on the getting her killed. Don't know why...maybe I'm just getting paranoid for the peeps in the show ^^;;;

Nash flipping out was surprising. Small nitpick, why was there a knife on the table?

When Nina asked Jack what he was going to do after the phone call to Drazen's cell phone I knew that he was going to go pretend to be Drazen, I was thinking "hmm he kind of looks like him....kind of..."

I want to know what's going on with the Rick/Kim situation.

oranthal - the guy in the red baseball cap asked if Drazen had the money.

Borg4of3
03-27-2002, 08:19 PM
I'm kinda wondering where Baseballcap Man fits in all this too. I see Drazen's contingency plan as Myovic and Suba would kill Teri and Kim, while Alexis gets rid of Gaines's men and then goes after Palmer and Bauer himself. But there were other targets on Ellis's list. My bet is that Baseballcap Man is the one who killed Ellis, and now he wants his pay.

And I'm starting to wonder if Doctor 'Phil' Parslow and Teri were having an affair. It seems so obvious, yet Darkangel is right in that Teri would have been more understanding, even self-pitying instead of being so vengeful about Bauer/Nina. Of course, if it wasn't an affair, what else could it have been? :confused:

Jedi Knight
03-28-2002, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Borg4of3
My bet is that Baseballcap Man is the one who killed Ellis, and now he wants his pay.


But wasn't Ellis killed in New Orleans? I don't think there's any way to get from New Orleans to LA in less than 3 hours.

I'm not even sure if whatever the baseball cap guy is doing has even been done yet. Maybe he's getting paid to get some information or provide them with access to some place, or maybe weapons?

DarkAngel
03-28-2002, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Borg4of3
Of course, if it wasn't an affair, what else could it have been? :confused:

Could it have something to do with her condition? He's a doctor of some sort, and Teri hasn't seemed to be in perfect condition thus far (the stomach pains and now the amnesia)?

optimal321
03-28-2002, 05:31 PM
The first thing i thought after seeing this ep was "That dumb woman!" It was total shock to see Nash stab Drazen. And the entire scene leading up to that had me on the edge of my seat.

But i don't think that Teri would be more sympathetic toward Nina, had she had an affair of her own. The jealosy of knowing your husband was with someone who you thought was a friend would probably get to her. Idealy, it would be expected of her to not get so upset, but i think that's kinda how anyone would react in that situation. Regardless of what she may have done also.

Of course, i'm assuming a lot and i don't really even know if that's what the doctor was.

It was really lucky that Redbaseballcapman called. Hopefully he will lead in a new, even more suspensful direction :D .

oranthal
03-29-2002, 01:42 PM
i actually find myself standing a lot while watching this show. when i'm standing, i have this illusion that i wouldn't miss anything.


Originally posted by optimal321
The first thing i thought after seeing this ep was "That dumb woman!" It was total shock to see Nash stab Drazen. And the entire scene leading up to that had me on the edge of my seat.