Stay at home mom from Indiana bashes CN/PPG!

[John-Paul]

Oh Great, Another Topic to Argue With My Kids About
by Kelly of Indiana




being in the room to monitor what was being said or done.

Then, about two weeks ago my cable company did a major upgrade. One of
I am so upset with my local cable company. We were enjoying our family television time with the likes of Nick Jr, Playhouse Disney and occasionally "Ready Set Learn" on TLC. These shows for the most part are entertaining and your child might even learn a moral lesson in the process. Now, not every show on these preschool forums is top-notch in my opinion, but I felt "safe" allowing my children to watch without my the things they decided to do was add some new stations and for some reason, Cartoon Network was one they added. I had some experience with this network at my mother's house. I enjoyed seeing some of the cartoons that I had enjoyed as a child including Scooby Doo, Popeye and The Flintstones. As I watched some of them, I was surprised at the way the characters spoke and the violence they contained. No biggie, I watched them and I'm far from violent. So, now we are graced with this network at home as well.

One of the first things about this change that peeved me was they chose to move the Disney channel and they put Cartoon Network on the same channel that used to house Disney. I came down one morning to see my son watching The Cartoon Network instead of Disney or Nick Jr. I think it was The Flintstones and so I didn't think much of it.

So let's fast forward a bit. Now my daughter has turned seven and has a growing interest in the PowerPuff Girls. Hmmmm, I've heard a lot about these three young ladies and so, against my better judgement, I sat down with my five year old son and my seven year old daughter to see what the hype was all about. I could not believe what I was seeing.

For those few who have not heard or seen this cartoon, it is about three kindergartners, Blossom, Buttercup and Bubbles. They are super heroes of sorts. They are routinely called away from their kindergarten class to save their city.

The reason I won't be letting my children watch this show again is because I did not think this show was worth the paper it was drawn on. These characters are VERY cute. This is what draws you in and leads you to believe that it can't be all that bad. These girls are not sweet, with the exception of Bubbles, perhaps. What I saw and heard were little girls screaming "Shut-up" at one another repeatedly. They only cooperated when their sibling was about to be killed by some mutant octopus. These girls are not role models for young ladies, they are spoiled, rude children.

Another issue I had with this show was the villain. In the episode we were so unfortunate to see, the villain was some sort of cross-dressing Satan type complete with goatee and spiked heels on his boots. I will give you that he was evil, and I could feel my children looking at me with every sentence he uttered, knowing that I was not approving of what we were witnessing. Now, don't get me wrong, if cross-dressing is your thing, more power to you. I just don't personally think it has a place in an animated show for children.

Ok, so you can understand I didn't like this show. There have been others that have been turned off. There was Johnny Bravo, Swat-Cats and a few others whose names escape me since they were on only seconds before I bellowed, "Turn it off!" Perhaps you think I'm overprotective, and you are probably correct. I just think that our children are exposed to this type of rude behavior the minute we let them out of our homes. It takes years to shape a child and teach them what we value. I just cannot allow these shows to disrupt all those years of hard work.




Any Comments?

[Chibi Kageboshi]

i am so very very sorry..... FOR THE KIDS OF THIS INSANE WOMAN!
what is her problem? she obviously has issues beyond that of which we can understand. Parents like this really make me sick.

[langden alger]

can't we get this woman a 24 hour rosie o donnel channel so that she'll leave us alone already.

[James]

Originally posted by John-Paul
Oh Great, Another Topic to Argue With My Kids About
by Kelly of Indiana



Another issue I had with this show was the villain. In the episode we were so unfortunate to see, the villain was some sort of cross-dressing Satan type complete with goatee and spiked heels on his boots. I will give you that he was evil, and I could feel my children looking at me with every sentence he uttered, knowing that I was not approving of what we were witnessing. Now, don't get me wrong, if cross-dressing is your thing, more power to you. I just don't personally think it has a place in an animated show for children.




Typical. The fact that 'Him' is one of the scariest and powerful bad guys to grace a cartoon is lost here. The fact he has vast powers, a chillingly light and echoing voice and is totally undefeatable in a conventional way is what I'd see as being his damaging aspect. He is the sort of character who would give kids nightmares - and NOT because of his costume.

Some parents need to stop and look at things through a KIDS eyes and not an adult. Kids don't see the cross dressing - they see a red scary transforming demon thing. No kid noticed that Zoltar in Battle Of The Planets wore lipstick? Or was worried when Bugs dressed up as a woman? No. They see in a socially simplistic form.

This woman needs to look at the problems she is addressing and comtemplate if she is confronting her own insecurities and not the childrens..

[Calhoun07]

While I am still trying to figure out what violence she saw in Scooby Doo, Flintstones and Popeye that was so bad, I do kinda agree that PPG isn't necessarilly a kids show. Can kids enjoy it? Heck ya, but I always thought of it more as an alternative type cartoon for adults when I first started watching it. Marketing it to little girls didn't really occur to me.

If she thinks those cartoons are bad, what about all the ultra violence in Warner Brothers cartoons?

[Galaxia]

Originally posted by John-Paul
These girls are not role models for young ladies, they are spoiled, rude children.



Heh....lol.....unbelievable.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Joe Tully]

I have the strangest feeling of deja vu...

Is there a source for this article, John-Paul? Is it from the same local newspaper as your "Looney Tunes Babies" thread? :rolleyes:

[John-Paul]

Originally posted by Joe Tully
I have the strangest feeling of deja vu...

Is there a source for this article, John-Paul? Is it from the same local newspaper as your "Looney Tunes Babies" thread? :rolleyes:

Epinions.com

Just search Cartoon Network and you'll see it

[AngryMonkey16]

"For those few who have not heard or seen this cartoon, it is about three kindergartners, Blossom, Buttercup and Bubbles. They are super heroes of sorts. They are routinely called away from their kindergarten class to save their city.

The reason I won't be letting my children watch this show again is because I did not think this show was worth the paper it was drawn on. These characters are VERY cute. This is what draws you in and leads you to believe that it can't be all that bad. These girls are not sweet, with the exception of Bubbles, perhaps. What I saw and heard were little girls screaming "Shut-up" at one another repeatedly. They only cooperated when their sibling was about to be killed by some mutant octopus. These girls are not role models for young ladies, they are spoiled, rude children. "

cartoons are meant to be an escape from reality. i mean, how entertaining could a cartoon be where 3 little girls go to school and come home and nibble on rice cakes? and another thing. what about veruca salt from charlie and the chocolate factory? would you nail her up on the cross with blossom, buttercup, and bubbles?

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Here's a question and an answer:
Why do people like this exist?
To piss people like us off!

I mean, come on here! It's the freakin' Powerpuff Girls! This show is not going to make your kids worship Satan, turn into "spoiled little brats", or make them ultra-violent. These are the mothers that find fault with the "700 Club" for not being strict enough on the media.

[I.R Joey]

Well we always say that Parents should take a more active role in what they let their kids watch, and I think that's exactly what this women did, for that I commend her. However, I do think she's deluding herself with thinking that every cartoon she see's is inheriantly for kids which isn't true (gosh we all gripe about that) and she should realize that. In my personal opinion if I where one of those kids I'd go crazy from being subjected to half of the Nick Jr and Discovery kids stuff. Ughhh.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

a 7 year old having to put up with that satani face from nick jr..... dear lrod i am sorry for her and how much of a reject she will be at school.

[JustJack]

She said it herself...outside of their homes, these children are subjigated to all of this as well. But thank God that while they're at home, we can protect them from all of the other crap that goes on in the world!!
Yes, lets protect these children from watching cute children saving the world from monsters, as they turn around to see the REAL WORLD!

Jeeze...people suck...

[Calhoun07]

Well, I read that she didn't want her kids going around saying "Shut up" to each other. That was a valid concern. But is she really worried her kids are going to start cross dressing and doing evil things to kindergartners?

[PeppeRaskell1]

Originally posted by John-Paul
Oh Great, Another Topic to Argue With My Kids About
by Kelly of Indiana


Any Comments?

How long ago was that little article written? Swat Kats isn't currently on CN right now (it's not on Boomerang, either!).

And how much you wanna bet she's currently watching Samurai Jack under the pretense that she's monitoring it to make sure it's "safe enough for my youngest child" (who's probably 23 and a college English major) and secretly having fantasies about the guy that are "not suitable for viewing by children."

And I bet she posts on "The Site," too!


"I am more than a Cartoon Cartoon...I am an Original!"

[Spaceman Spiff]

Wow. Though the PPG did always stike me as a bit spoiled, but I think the show's pretty clear on dismissing that sort of behavior. I'd hate to see these kids in college, out from under their mother's thumb.

[Nightwing]

originally posted by SSJ
Some parents need to stop and look at things through a KIDS eyes and not an adult. Kids don't see the cross dressing - they see a red scary transforming demon thing. No kid noticed that Zoltar in Battle Of The Planets wore lipstick? Or was worried when Bugs dressed up as a woman? No. They see in a socially simplistic form.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I mean you try and establish a point to people (like that woman) for so long and it doesn't click but here I find SOMEBODY gets it! It's like that bed scene in SHREK with the prince drinking and looking at the princess' picture. I was watching with my aunt and cousin, and my aunt was like ewww (for obvious, yet adult oriented reasons). But my cousin thought nothing of it other than "Mmmrrr! Evil bad man." He's the lucky one. I explained the concept to my aunt though, so I think it's cool. :)




I just think that our children are exposed to this type of rude behavior the minute we let them out of our homes.



Which is WHY you should explain your fears and what you're seeing in that cartoon, cuz multiply that by 100,000,000,000 and you've got the amount of 'rude behavior' in the UN-animated world.


It takes years to shape a child and teach them what we value. I just cannot allow these shows to disrupt all those years of hard work.

If TV influence overtakes the life lessons you teach your child, maybe you're not teaching them right, buttercup.

[CadaverousEyes]

Ah, the sheltered life. The perfect way to make one delusional. They're better off with the cartoons.

Hahahaha, surprised at the language and violence found in Scooby Doo, Popeye, and the Flintstones. On second thought, maybe she should just throw out the tv. Who wants to bet that her children are going to end up rejecting all the values she's worked hard over the years to instill in them anyway? I dare not think of the alternative.

[Terminatah]

I'd like to beat this woman with a mallet.

-Terminatah

[RogueMartian]

I am all for parents taking an active role in their children's lives by monitoring their choice of entertainment, but I pity the children of this woman.


Perhaps you think I'm overprotective

Yes I do. I can't imagine being forced to grow up on Nick Jr. and Disney in this day and age and then when I show the least bit of independent thought and choice of entertainment, my parents bellow "turn it off". Sometimes I don't get why some people have kids, isn't watching your children grow up into thinking individuals supposed to be one of the joys of parenting? Why do so many parents just want little robots?

[Defiant1DS9]

Someone should replace this stay at home mother with a stepford wife. She would repeat herself saying " I would die if the cartoon network shows the powerpuff girls."

[Joe Wagner]

Geez, I swear the world seems to take the same issues to heart and hold on to them forever. If I'm correct a lot of people that post will probably remember "The Great He-Man Debate". I remember when I was growing up He-Man was the in thing, followed by GI Joe and Transformers. What this woman is doing is what a lot of parents tried doing way back then. She's basically trying to protect her children and whoever said that if the TV is getting to them than maybe she should just get rid of it, if she's that worried about the values she's instilling in them.

As a kid I think I got more moral benefits by watching GI Joe and He-Man stand up and do the right thing than I ever would get from the repetitive stories that air continuously on Nick Jr and Playhouse Disney. It sounds like this parent is the one that is in every group and will tell their kids "No, you can't go to Chuck E Cheese with the other kids because cheese will clog your capilaries, video games are violent and other parents don't know how to watch their children. Truthfully the better way to be a proactive parent would be to watch these shows with her children and tell them that there are sibling fights and that, like the PPG, they can overcome these to find a beneficial solution.

Not only that but she attacks shows that are almost clearly adult in nature - Johnny Bravo, come on - to not laugh at this show almost clearly shows that she grew up with a pack of very serious wolves. If she wants a moral message - don't be a jerk and people will like you. WOW, that was really hidden! If these are her opinions about CN what about Fox, WB, UPN or any other channel on the air? I'm sure Buffy the Vampire Slayer would be to violent for her, or perhaps make her think. :mad:

What's really sad though is not only will these children group up with fewer ties to their classmates (making them even further outcasts) but that this article was published. How many parents are going to point to this article and try to get PPG merch banned from school, or tell teachers to let them know if they're children pretend to be like the PPG or anything else. This will only add to the initial premise they have that cartoons are only for children and hold true to the premie that cartoons will rot their brains. Tis a shame that people can't realize the true artsmanship behind these creations and understand that they can't protect their kids forever and realize maybe it's better if I introduce them to it rather than forming a gap between them when they find out about it from outside the home. :rolleyes:

-Joe!

[Lucky Bob]

Well, I will have to agree with her on one thing. The Cartoon Cartoons are pretty stupid. Except for Johnny Bravo, of course.

**Addition** Of course, I mean that in the nicest possible way.

[Kathy Kane]

"cross-dressing Satan-type"--- :p
That's funny way to describe Him!

[Gyro]

I'm not much of a PPG fan, but calling them spoiled, rude children is just plain wrong.

[DR. BELCH]

Is this mother's name "Gupty" by any chance? ;)

[Thad Komorowski]

Oh brother, not again! I can't stand these anti-cartoon people. I said it before and I'll say it again:

IT'S A CARTOON, STUPID! IT'S NOT REAL! IF YOU'RE OFFENDED BY DRAWINGS THAT MOVE, DON'T WATCH IT!

Actually, someone who's actually offended by drawings that move should see a head-shrinker...:p


-Thad

[Palin Dromos]

Hmmmm...

Recalling the episode that this woman seems to be describing she obviously missed the acutal point of the episode, probably because she hadn't seen any other eps. In the ep she describes the main plot point was that HIM was intetionally driving a wedge between the girls and indeed the attitudes Buttercup and Blossom were exibiting were exagerations of themselves. Had she bothered to watch a few more eps she would have seen that if anything the PPG are positive female rolemodels. And of course they are animated, NOT REAL!