Why Do People Dislike Waluigi?

[Legion472]

I've Read on the Internet That Waluigi is the Most Horrible and Unimportant Character in the World of Video Games.

I Just Want To Know Why People Dislike Waluigi So Much Because He's My Favorite Character in Mario. I Also Want to Know If Anyone Else Likes Waluigi.

[Marvin Tikvah]

Name one thing Waluigi has done to deserve any kind of admiration.

[Daxdiv]

Because, he was created for the sole purpose of being used as a double's partner in Mario Tennis games, then managed to sneak into every other Mario Spin-off game without contributing to the main games. Maybe if he had his own spin-off game, maybe people's opinions on him would change.

[TheGunheart]

I wonder if Brawl in the Family has done anything to improve his reputation?

[jph139]

Name one thing Waluigi has done to deserve any kind of admiration.

He's tall, purple, weird, and has a cool 'stache. And, more than anything else, he has done NOTHING.

Waluigi is entirely out of place, his existence makes virtually no sense, and I love him so so much.

[Desensitized]

He's a badly designed character that was created to be nothing but filler. Which is all he is.

Seriously, I don't understand where all these Waluigi fans came from in the last few years. He's not a good character.

[Mynd Hed]

Name one thing Waluigi has done to deserve any kind of admiration.

He kicked your ass at tennis. (-:

[Marvin Tikvah]

Sorry, I can't hear you over my victory using an obscure, inactive, yet still-superior-to-Waluigi character.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/MidgetBottle/DKJR22.gif

[Rud]

Name one thing Waluigi has done to deserve any kind of admiration.He did the great achievement of having great stats in my opinion in the mario cart DS game, the best in my opinion (my opinion).... that makes me a Waluigi fan.

thats very shallow of me i know... but i cannot help being shallow.

[blazecat]

I don't hate Waluigi, but I don't necessarily care for him either. He's just a Wario wannabee that only appears in spin-offs and is just "there".

[Jave]

I don't think it's hate as it is not caring for him. While I wouldn't mind him getting a role in a story-based game, I can't say I actually see that happening.

His fanbase is so huge it's mind-boggling, though. I really blame Brawl in the Family for this.

http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/images/Waluigi-Off.png

[Eddy]

He's tall, purple, weird, and has a cool 'stache. And, more than anything else, he has done NOTHING.

Waluigi is entirely out of place, his existence makes virtually no sense, and I love him so so much.
This is how I feel too.

Waluigi is so worthless and out of place I can't help but love him. I used to hate him, but that's all changed the longer he's been around. Brawl in the Family really helped me see what made him so amazing.

[Silverstar]

I don't hate Waluigi, but I don't necessarily care for him either. He's just a Wario wannabee that only appears in spin-offs and is just "there".

Seconded.

While I don't hate Waluigi, or even dislike him, he hasn't done anything noteworthy to make me want to care about him. He's really just there to fill up the numbers in Mario sports and party titles. Until (or unless) Waluigi is ever given a major role in a story-based game, I can't help but think of him as nothing more than a glorified extra.

[Legion472]

Name one thing Waluigi has done to deserve any kind of admiration.

He's Been Created. Why Else do You Think Waluigi Says


Yeh, Waluigi #1

Because, He Cares To Be Around.

[Blackstar]

I don't hate Waluigi, but Nintendo has done nothing with the character to endear me to the him either. He's nothing more than Luigi to Wario's Mario. Of course, it would be possible for Nintendo to transform Waluigi into a main character, but they could the same for Toadette or Birdo or Daisy or any other minor character if they wanted to.

So just to get some more insight into things, I will ask: What is it about Waluigi that his fans like?

[Legion472]

I don't hate Waluigi, but Nintendo has done nothing with the character to endear me to the him either. He's nothing more than Luigi to Wario's Mario. Of course, it would be possible for Nintendo to transform Waluigi into a main character, but they could the same for Toadette or Birdo or Daisy or any other minor character if they wanted to.

So just to get some more insight into things, I will ask: Why is Waluigi your favorite Nintendo character?

I Like Minor Characters and Villains So I Guess That's Why I Like Him. Also, Because Since No One Pays any REAL Attention to Him I'm One of the Few People Who Cares About Him.

[Silverstar]

I Like Minor Characters and Villains So I Guess That's Why I Like Him. Also, Because Since No One Pays any REAL Attention to Him I'm One of the Few People Who Cares About Him.

I can respect that to a point; it's nice to route for the underdog characters who get next to no press (I've done that myself with a few characters), but does that mean that if Nintendo started paying attention to Waluigi and started giving him starring roles, that his legions of fans would like him less?

It's one thing to like a character despite their unpopularity, but another to like a character simply because they're unpopular.

[Legion472]

I can respect that to a point; it's nice to route for the underdog characters who get next to no press (I've done that myself with a few characters), but does that mean that if Nintendo started paying attention to Waluigi and started giving him starring roles, that you'd like him less?


No, I'd Like Him Anyway He Is.

[jph139]

I can respect that to a point; it's nice to route for the underdog characters who get next to no press (I've done that myself with a few characters), but does that mean that if Nintendo started paying attention to Waluigi and started giving him starring roles, that his legions of fans would like him less?

It's one thing to like a character despite their unpopularity, but another to like a character simply because they're unpopular.

I think I'd probably like him less. It's like... Pandaman, from One Piece. See, he's this random guy with a panda face that appears in the background of the One Piece manga with no rhyme or reason. He has this ridiculous backstory about being on the run from a gang of tomato gangsters or something, but the reason he's such a hilarious character is that he's just... there. He has no motive, no character, he's just this weird lookin' guy who pops up every now and then.

Same thing with Waluigi. I like him because he's so... incongruent. What does he want? Why is he there? What's his backstory? Other than being "Bad Luigi," what are his defining traits? Playing tennis? Bombs? Traps? It changes in every game.

He makes no sense. If they did stuff with him and gave him characteristics, he's start to make sense, and thus, would be less appealing.

[Marvin Tikvah]

Because, He Cares To Be Around.

So you basically care for him simply because you can, not because he's worth caring about.

Let me ask you: if Nintendo released a game centered on Waluigi, who's done absolutely nothing worth of note, or on a character like Rosalina who has an actual backstory and motivations, which would you think would actually sell?

[Shift]

So you basically care for him simply because you can, not because he's worth caring about.

Let me ask you: if Nintendo released a game centered on Waluigi, who's done absolutely nothing worth of note, or on a character like Rosalina who has an actual backstory and motivations, which would you think would actually sell?
Birdo's game. Chah, obviously.

[TheGunheart]

I just think he has a funny design and has potential if he were ever featured in a main game. Preferably as an antagonist, though I wouldn't mind him being playable if he were Wario's partner in a new Wario game.

As for Rosalina, I really liked her character, but I think her arc was pretty much said and done with SMG. The appeal of another character getting the spotlight would be to expand on what had previously been a reletively flat character, while Rosalina was introduced as a fully developed character with a complete story arc.

[Blackstar]

He's Been Created. Why Else do You Think Waluigi Says


Yeh, Waluigi #1

Because, He Cares To Be Around.


Sorry...what? :confused:

[Fool's Gil]

"Brawl in the Family" and "There Will Be Brawl" does good for Waluigi's reputation, but as fan works go, it's not enough: Nintendo needs to actually use him for some canon adventures. Maybe a Luigi game that has Waluigi as the villain or something.

[EinBebop]

Evil Mario is Wario. Okay.

Evil Luigi is... Waluigi? LAME. So lame I can't not hate it.

[Mynd Hed]

Let me ask you: if Nintendo released a game centered on Waluigi, who's done absolutely nothing worth of note, or on a character like Rosalina who has an actual backstory and motivations, which would you think would actually sell?

Accomplishments:

Waluigi:
* Be purple.
* Be freakish and long-limbed.
* Kick ass at tennis.

Rosalina:
* Yak on and on about "your special one."
* Read from a storybook.
* Be the most generic princess in a franchise absolutely STUFFED with generic princesses.

Gotta go with Waluigi on this. He has more personality and character based on his design and a couple voice clips alone than Rosalina had in a whole game whose story largely centered around her.

[Light Lucario]

I don't really hate or dislike Waluigi. He's just never seem that interesting to me. To me, he's basically an evil version of Luigi to match with the evil version of Mario, Wario. Though, I kind of liked his personality in Mario and Sonic in the Olympic Winter Games more than Wario. He had his enjoyment of throwing bombs, while Wario just passed gas. Yeah, that was my least favorite mini-game in the story mode. Maybe if Nintendo made him more of a villain in some kind of Mario and/or Luigi game, he would be more appreciated.

[Marvin Tikvah]

April Fools was 3 days ago Mynd.

But I concede. I guess I can see why fanon takes can make a character interesting. After all, I grew to like Cynthia from Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum a lot more after seeing the new interpretation of her from other fans.

[Desensitized]

Accomplishments:

Waluigi:
* Be purple.
* Be freakish and long-limbed.
* Kick ass at tennis.

Rosalina:
* Yak on and on about "your special one."
* Read from a storybook.
* Be the most generic princess in a franchise absolutely STUFFED with generic princesses.

Gotta go with Waluigi on this. He has more personality and character based on his design and a couple voice clips alone than Rosalina had in a whole game whose story largely centered around her.Well then Mouser is clearly the greatest Mario character because he throws bombs while being a mouse and wearing shades. :p

He also has a better voice than Waluigi.

[Mynd Hed]

Nope, Waluigi still wins at tennis and having long limbs. Mario Bros. already has plenty of short, squat guys. And the Koopa Troopas are starting to pick up on the shades.

[LordTerminal]

Name one thing Waluigi has done to deserve any kind of admiration.

:D Well this for starters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6CLfZl0m88

Seriously, until he gets his own game, the closest I can think of when it comes Waluigi's only contribution to the Mario franchise comes from how he's portrayed in Mario Strikers Charged.

[DarthGonzo]

Waluigi's awesomeness stems from the fact that he's so dang pointless and stupid. That's why he's cool, guys. Some of you just need to open your eyes and see the beauty that is Waluigi.

:p

[Desensitized]

Hey, I'm all about useless characters. Magikarp is a fantastic Pokemon and so is Captain Falcon in Brawl.

But I cannot like Waluigi. Sorry, I cannot do it. I will not do it.

[Blackstar]

Waluigi's awesomeness stems from the fact that he's so dang pointless and stupid. That's why he's cool, guys. Some of you just need to open your eyes and see the beauty that is Waluigi.

:p


I have no problem with celebrating useless characters. That's why I'm a fan of DBZ's Mr. Satan. I can also appreciate celebrating "lesser" characters who don't get much attention paid to them (one of my favorite characters on Johnny Test is Johnny's mother Lila), but Waluigi just never did anything for me personally.

[chalmers]

You guys really need to get one of these:
http://torch.cs.dal.ca/%7Eseaboyer/misc/sarcasm_detector.jpg

[Trevor]

Well I must say that I'm surprised that Waluigi hasn't appeared in any other Mario/Nintendo games considering that Wario has managed to get his own line (I realize this may be silly, but couldn't Nintendo have Wario and Waluigi partner up into an evil duo, similar to Mario and Luigi), even though he was originally a 1-off game character on the Gameboy.

[staticblue]

I like to think, he simply just likes to party all the time, party all the time, party all the tiiiiiiiimmmme!

[Classic Speedy]

All right: I'm coming out of the closet. I'm a Waluigi fan. I often play as him in Mario Kart Wii. Yes, I know he's pointless and underdeveloped. But that's probably why I find him so humorous: That they didn't put much effort into him and was solely created to be a companion to the bizarro Mario, Wario. I also find his lanky design and even more nasal voice than Wario to be amusing.

(for the record, I haven't ever read Brawl in the Family)

[Game Freak 4]

Well I must say that I'm surprised that Waluigi hasn't appeared in any other Mario/Nintendo games considering that Wario has managed to get his own line (I realize this may be silly, but couldn't Nintendo have Wario and Waluigi partner up into an evil duo, similar to Mario and Luigi), even though he was originally a 1-off game character on the Gameboy.
Well, Shigeru Miyamoto said that he doesn't like using characters he didn't create.

...of course, that doesn't explain Toadette.

And sereriously, many Mario characters are just personality-free(except the one-shots), they're just "avatars" and "cast-roles." What would really make Waluigi any different or interesting than the rest?

[Jave]

Well, Shigeru Miyamoto said that he doesn't like using characters he didn't create.Source?


...of course, that doesn't explain Toadette.Outside of a cameo in Galaxy, where was Toadette ever in a mainline game?


And sereriously, many Mario characters are just personality-free(except the one-shots), they're just "avatars" and "cast-roles." What would really make Waluigi any different or interesting than the rest?Every main Mario character has a defined personality and traits, save for the generic Toads and baddies. None of them really qualifies as an "avatar" character.

[Gold Guy]

Eh, I guess Waluigi just isn't interesting, and he's just easy to tease.

[Game Freak 4]

Source?


OK, I forgot where I heard it, but I did hear that.



Outside of a cameo in Galaxy, where was Toadette ever in a mainline game?
No, I mean she was from Shigeru Miyamoto(wasn't she?) and yet, he doesn't use her much.



Every main Mario character has a defined personality and traits, save for the generic Toads and baddies. None of them really qualifies as an "avatar" character.

Well, I don't see it. And Red M(what I call him) was basically made to be an "Everyman" for (alomst)Everything... like Mickey Mouse to Disney, then. And from what I heard, most people have stated that the characgters are becoming one-dimensional(except Green L). Of course, could anyone really get anything from a series of platformers whit little to no story/plot, ther that save some chick from a Turtle-Dragon, who seems to cannot decide on his motivation for kidnapping her?

And I'm not counting the RPG's.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Wait, people care enough to actively hate Waluigi? Wow. Personally, I don't have much to say other than the fact he kicks my ass at tennis and he's good just to be there to be a jerk. :p


I have no problem with celebrating useless characters. That's why I'm a fan of DBZ's Mr. Satan. I can also appreciate celebrating "lesser" characters who don't get much attention paid to them (one of my favorite characters on Johnny Test is Johnny's mother Lila), but Waluigi just never did anything for me personally.

Woah son, Mark saved the planet. Twice. :mad:


...well, once...if you don't count Cell. :sweat:

[PC!]

*looks at number of posts in this topic*

For a character with apparently no personality, he sure is generating a lot of discussion. :p

[Game Freak 4]

Wait, people care enough to actively hate Waluigi? Wow. Personally, I don't have much to say other than the fact he kicks my ass at tennis and he's good just to be there to be a jerk. :p



Woah son, Mark saved the planet. Twice. :mad:


...well, once...if you don't count Cell. :sweat:
Hey, it goes further. If not for Maark(I think it's supposed to be spelled with two a's. Maark = Akuma), the Fatter Majin Buu would have still be causing death and destruction. People underestimate Hercule.He is a good fighter in his own right, very smart, and can be cunning. I men, he's the only character(other than Baby/Kid Pan) has never died in the entire series. It's just that anyone that is not a Saiyan(nor Majunior) tends to be overshadowed or ignored.

[Jave]

No, I mean she was from Shigeru Miyamoto(wasn't she?) and yet, he doesn't use her much.I don't believe Miyamoto created Toadette. She debuted in Mario Kart Double Dash, which is a spin-off title. She's been in plenty of other titles since, including Paper Mario: TTYD, but never on a mainline one.



Well, I don't see it. And Red M(what I call him) was basically made to be an "Everyman" for (alomst)Everything... like Mickey Mouse to Disney, then. And from what I heard, most people have stated that the characgters are becoming one-dimensional(except Green L). Of course, could anyone really get anything from a series of platformers whit little to no story/plot, ther that save some chick from a Turtle-Dragon, who seems to cannot decide on his motivation for kidnapping her?

And I'm not counting the RPG's.But nobody denies that Mario is a very simplistic character. He's supposed to be like that because of the nature of his games, which as you said, shouldn't be expected much from due to their simple stories.

But Mario isn't an avatar character. By definition, an avatar character is a character you can personalize because you're supposed to role-play as him/her. Link is an avatar, Pokemon Trainer is an avatar, the Miis are avatars, you get the idea. Not one game lets you personalize Mario. Not rename him, not change his outfit (I'm not talking power-ups here), nothing. Not even the RPGs. Mario is a defined character, and his character and personality being underdeveloped doesn't change that.

[Mynd Hed]

By that definition, Link isn't an avatar either, because you can't personalize him in any meaningful way. He talks ever-so-slightly less than Mario, that's the only difference between them in that respect.

[Jave]

By that definition, Link isn't an avatar either, because you can't personalize him in any meaningful way. He talks ever-so-slightly less than Mario, that's the only difference between them in that respect.To be fair, you can rename Link in pretty much all of his games. Although if you don't want to call him an avatar character, I'm cool with that.

[Game Freak 4]

By that definition, Link isn't an avatar either, because you can't personalize him in any meaningful way. He talks ever-so-slightly less than Mario, that's the only difference between them in that respect.
Link IS an Avatar. He is meant to be this. According to sources, Shigeru Miyamoto didn't even wanted to give him a canon name, but decided with "Link," be cause he(well, "it") was(and still is) meant to "LINK" the player into the world of TLoZ. TV Tropes has described him as an "AFGNCAAP (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AFGNCAAP)," an Ageless Faceless Gender Neutral(well, he looks effeminate enough) Culturally Ambiguous Adventure Person(and you CAN mean "person" to him). Of course, one can say every Legend of Zelda character is one-dimensional(except the one-shots, like Midna).

There's also the Human Being(if you can call "it" that) from Animal Crossing, whom you CAN customize it's appearence.

[Mynd Hed]

By definition, an avatar character is a character you can personalize because you're supposed to role-play as him/her. Link is an avatar, Pokemon Trainer is an avatar, the Miis are avatars, you get the idea. Not one game lets you personalize Mario. Not rename him, not change his outfit (I'm not talking power-ups here), nothing. Not even the RPGs. Mario is a defined character, and his character and personality being underdeveloped doesn't change that.


By that definition, Link isn't an avatar either, because you can't personalize him in any meaningful way. He talks ever-so-slightly less than Mario, that's the only difference between them in that respect.


Link IS an Avatar. He is meant to be this. According to sources, Shigeru Miyamoto didn't even wanted to give him a canon name, but decided with "Link," be cause he(well, "it") was(and still is) meant to "LINK" the player into the world of TLoZ. TV Tropes has described him as an "AFGNCAAP (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AFGNCAAP)," an Ageless Faceless Gender Neutral(well, he looks effeminate enough) Culturally Ambiguous Adventure Person(and you CAN mean "person" to him). Of course, one can say every Legend of Zelda character is one-dimensional(except the one-shots, like Midna).

There's also the Human Being(if you can call "it" that) from Animal Crossing, whom you CAN customize it's appearence.

Take another look at the bold-face sections above. If you define "avatar" as a character who can be customized so as to be relatable to the player, then Link is not an avatar. You seem to be using a different definition of the term "avatar," one that Link DOES fit, and that's fine.

Personally, I'd place both Link and Mario in a middle ground between a very specific and rigidly defined character at one end (ex: most JRPG protagonists) and an utter cipher on the other end (ex: a character who is entirely user-created or who is never seen because the action takes place entirely in the first-person). They cannot function fully as player avatars because they do have specific characteristics: Mario is short and has a moustache while the player may not, Link is young, male, Caucasian-looking and has blonde hair while the player may not, etc. However, many aspects of their personality are left intentionally vague to allow the player to better identify with them.