The Cleveland Show - "The Curious Case of Jr. Working at The Stool" - Talkback [2/21]

[Space Cadet]

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Broadcast Order: Season 1, Episode 14
Production Order: Season 1, Episode 14

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A new episode airs tonight at 8:30 PM Eastern. Here is the synopsis:


Cleveland, Jr. lands an interview with the editor of the local newspaper, but with his new found responsibility while working at The Stool, he starts making changes to the guys' hangout causing a father son feud.

[Zen Man]

Roberta sounds different.

[Moto Pete]

A LOST Reference

[JD08]

This is the first episode without Nia Long as Roberta. The new voice is Reagan Gomez-Preston, from the Amanda show and The Parent hood.

[DarthGonzo]

So they pulled a Meg with Roberta, huh?

[Zen Man]

Whoa wait a minute Cleveland Jr. :D

[TnAdct1]

So they pulled a Meg with Roberta, huh? Voice actress change, yes. Turning Roberta into the butt monkey, no.

[MetroSparkster]

Oh sahnap!

He lost his 'stache!

[Bloody Marquis]

Stacheless Cleveland hurts my ears.

[chalmers]

I love how Fox runs ads that acknowledge how unpopular American Dad is, but they don't really do anything to rectify the situation.

[Lonestarr]

Apparently, David Lynch was one of the voices. I presume that this is the same guy behind "Twin Peaks"?

[HEATXZ]

Great episode :anime:
my favorite parts are the Lost reference and Cleveland without his mustache XD

[chdr]

Why'd they change Roberta's voice actor?

[JD08]

Why'd they change Roberta's voice actor?
Nia Long didn't have enough time to do her voice and other works so she just left.

[Master Moron]

I love how Fox runs ads that acknowledge how unpopular American Dad is, but they don't really do anything to rectify the situation.

What do you want them to do about it? Air American Dad after American Idol? It already gets a pretty great lead-in with Family Guy. It's not Fox's fault the show sucks.

[RonDrakenfan17]

I really enjoyed the show, think it has what it takes.

[TMC1982]

Nia Long didn't have enough time to do her voice and other works so she just left.

I don't like Roberta's new voice (it sounds too whiny and generic). It's like when Lacey Chebert (who also can have an overtly childish/girly sounding voice) voiced Meg on Family Guy before Mila Kunis. Nia Long brought much more "attitude" to the role than Reagan Gomez.

[HomeMoviesFan]

I don't like Roberta's new voice (it sounds too whiny and generic). It's like when Lacey Chebert (who also can have an overtly childish/girly sounding voice) voiced Meg on Family Guy before Mila Kunis. Nia Long brought much more "attitude" to the role than Reagan Gomez.

QTF. The instant I heard her new voice I thought this was the exact opposite of what was done on Family Guy. I wonder what happened with Nia Long, whether it be creative differences or contract dispute...

[dth1971]

So Cleveland now has a new mustache that sometimes falls off?

I like the guest voice of Ed Asner as a newspaper editor similar to his Lou Grant character.

[evildevil97]

I thought I read somewhere that Nia Long got fired because she sounded too old for the teenage daughter.

[Dogasu]

Whatever the reason, it's freaking pathetic that the voice actor didn't even last a full season. It makes the whole production look sloppy as hell.

Regardless, this was one of my favorite episodes.

[JD08]

The instant I heard her new voice I thought this was the exact opposite of what was done on Family Guy. I wonder what happened with Nia Long, whether it be creative differences or contract dispute...

I did too but the wierd thing about this new one she has the voice to at least mimic Roberta's attitude (I've heard her on other shows)but she's trying to be too cartoony with it. Nia Long just left because her movie contracts got in the way

[dendawg]

I personally hope the writers take Junior's Magnificent Bastard breakout and run with it. :D

[Daxdiv]

Loved this episode so much. The bits where Junior plans his revenge against his father were just hilarious, along with the music that was playing in the background. Junior is turning out to be one of my favorite characters on the show.

Roberta sideplot was enjoyable as well, but the new VA didn't throw me off until I heard her 2nd line, after that it was noticeable for me. I hope she gets better later on.

[Peter Paltridge]

Since FG was a repeat this week I watched this instead. I hated the first few episodes and abandoned the show, but I gave this episode a chance and liked it. So who knows, there's hope.

I still think Seth shouldn't have 3/4 of Animation Domination, though.

[ThePRPD]

Episode was pretty good. Not better than last week's episode. The third act was great.


So they pulled a Meg with Roberta, huh?
What do you mean?


I still think Seth shouldn't have 3/4 of Animation Domination, though.

*ahem*
This show isn't really Seth Macfarlane's show. It's actually Mike Henry's show.
All Seth did was present it to the FOX execs and they gave it the thumb's up.
Also, according to an interview with Macfarlane, he wasn't even going to voice Tim the Bear originally. He was persuaded by some guy whose name I can't remember.

[Juu-kuchi]

Huh, I never really noticed Roberta's voice change.

Other than that, pretty good episode. The show is slowly but surely getting into the groove of things. Also is it just me or does anybody just love the various basketball references the show has, from Scottie Pippen to Dikembe Mutumbo. It's clever and unique, two things I like.

[dth1971]

So now we have a Roberta voice change like Family Guy had a Meg voice change.

[Leviathan]

*ahem*
This show isn't really Seth Macfarlane's show. It's actually Mike Henry's show.
All Seth did was present it to the FOX execs and they gave it the thumb's up.


Well, that's sort of part of the problem. So, any FG writer that bugs Seth for a show gets one willy nilly? Name the last Simpsons writer to get that kind of deal.

[Daxdiv]

What do you mean?

They changed Roberta VA, much like how Meg voice changed from Lacey to Mila Kunis.

[ThePRPD]

They changed Roberta VA, much like how Meg voice changed from Lacey to Mila Kunis.
Ah, right.
I just wish the voice change wasn't so noticeable. >_>
I think she could have been re-casted better but I guess they needed a new VA quick.

Looks like we'll have to get used to this new voice actress for a while.

So, any FG writer that bugs Seth for a show gets one willy nilly?
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[Leviathan]

From the way you phrased it, it seems as if Mike Henry just decided one day "I want my own show", and had Seth MacFarlane use his political clout to get it greenlighted. That has never happened with a Simpsons writer.

[ThePRPD]

From the way you phrased it, it seems as if Mike Henry just decided one day "I want my own show", and had Seth MacFarlane use his political clout to get it greenlighted.

From the interviews I think it was more like this behind the scenes:
-Mike Henry and that some other guy (I keep forgetting his name. I think it was Appel.) was talking one day and somehow it went into the way of "What if Cleveland had his own show." They both wound up thinking it could actually be a good idea.

-They went to Seth since Cleveland is/was his character, explained their idea, took things about Cleveland into consideration, Seth liked the idea and decided to give it a shot by presenting it to FOX execs.

-Boom! Greenlighted.

Seth could have easily turned it down.


That has never happened with a Simpsons writer.Possibly because a Simpsons never really had an idea for a Simpson's spin-off or one did but it got turned down?

I'm not seeing a big deal here. Is there supposed to be a big deal?

[Juu-kuchi]

Possibly because a Simpsons never really had an idea for a Simpson's spin-off or one did but it got turned down?

I'm not seeing a big deal here. Is there supposed to be a big deal? Never mind the fact that the Simpsons, while it has an amazing supporting cast, doesn't have the right kind of people in said cast to stand on their own in a spinoff. I mean, out of Homer's friends can you really see a sense of depth and detail in their lives and personality that would compel a writer to say "Hey! What if we made a spinoff for him?" At least with Cleveland you can see that, he has enough dimensions on him, never mind baggage to make him able to stand on his own.

[AerostarMonk]

Never mind the fact that the Simpsons, while it has an amazing supporting cast, doesn't have the right kind of people in said cast to stand on their own in a spinoff. I mean, out of Homer's friends can you really see a sense of depth and detail in their lives and personality that would compel a writer to say "Hey! What if we made a spinoff for him?" At least with Cleveland you can see that, he has enough dimensions on him, never mind baggage to make him able to stand on his own.

That's funny because I remember in the year and a half leading up to the premiere of the show most people, myself included, complained that no one had enough depth on Family Guy to warrant a spin-off, but especially Cleveland.

[Daffyfan2003]

Huh, I never really noticed Roberta's voice change.

Other than that, pretty good episode. The show is slowly but surely getting into the groove of things. Also is it just me or does anybody just love the various basketball references the show has, from Scottie Pippen to Dikembe Mutumbo. It's clever and unique, two things I like.

Yeah. I didn't notice the new voice either. But it's good to see the comments on that at the forums. Glad other people pick up on these things and keep the rest of us up to date. Lol.

[ThePRPD]

Never mind the fact that...
I actually meant to include what you mentioned in my post. I totally forgot.

[evildevil97]

Never mind the fact that the Simpsons, while it has an amazing supporting cast, doesn't have the right kind of people in said cast to stand on their own in a spinoff. I mean, out of Homer's friends can you really see a sense of depth and detail in their lives and personality that would compel a writer to say "Hey! What if we made a spinoff for him?" At least with Cleveland you can see that, he has enough dimensions on him, never mind baggage to make him able to stand on his own.
When it comes to the Simpsons, there was an idea floating around for awhile for a live action Troy McClure movie. I think Phil Hartman died before it was any more than an idea though. And I think I read somewhere that they were thinking of a "Citizens of Springfield" show, featuring the lives of everyone. That turned into "22 Short Films About Springfield", instead of its own program.

[Poweranimals]

Not sure if anyone's aware of this but the voice of Lacey Stapleton was Ashley Tisdale.

[Nel]

That was an awesome episode. My favorite part:

*SLAM!*
"Ow! What was that for?!"
"This is what's happening. Deal with it."
*SLAM!*