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chdr
01-19-2010, 04:50 PM
Here it is. (http://www.adultswim.com/schedule/tools/img/sched_011910.jpg)

- New Saturday schedule effective 2/13: KOTH x2, Stroker & Hoop, Boondocks, NEW ANIME at midnight (!), Bleach x4 (!!), FLCL (!!!), Bebop, GITS, FMA, and Inuyasha x2.
- New KOTH Mondays at 10:30, starting 2/8.
- Freaknik premieres 3/7 at 11:30.

Jiya
01-19-2010, 05:00 PM
:D New Anime! Look forward to it and x4 Bleach plus FLCL is a plus since I missed a few episodes of Bleach and haven't seen FLCL in a long time. Surprise they still have episodes of KotH they haven't aired yet.

Soul
01-19-2010, 05:05 PM
Well I doubt it FMA Brotherhood if FMA TV 1 is still on the schedule.

macattack
01-19-2010, 05:05 PM
Looks like they're going to push new Bleach back to the end of April to allow for reruns to finish. 4 episodes of Bleach is borderline-overkill but this will allow for anyone who missed an episode a chance to see it without delaying the premiere too much or skipping episodes.

I kinda wish they had just crossed the name of the "NEW ANIME" out though so we could guess like slightly less stupid idiots. XD

FLCL showing up for what looks to be an extended amount of time. FMA is shoved to very late at night, makes me curious as to what the new anime will be.

New Aqua Teen showing up=I'm in. New Tim & Eric showing up=I'm out. Looking forward to Freaknik. Nice to see some new stuff on AS in general.

Andrew T. Hingson
01-19-2010, 05:14 PM
Well FMA being on so late might be to put significant space between it and Brotherhood if both air. Though I don't think Brotherhood is the Feb 6th show. Though it could be.

Great to see FLCL is back though I think I'd rather see it right after the new anime as opposed to being behind a mountain of Bleach.

Bleach x 4 is reminding me of the days when CN was airing back to back DB and DBZ on Saturday afternoons. I guess their Death Note experiment must have done well enough for them to want to burn through reruns of another show like that.

No encore slot for the new anime is a shame though...

Well smart of them to first move PJs and Stroker so PJs is next to Boondocks again and also to try the new anime at Midnight after Boondocks though maybe it should have a stronger lead than that...

Friday looks interesting though I'm dissappointed that the WS shows got booted the fans of British comedies ought to be thrilled.

AS gets some fresh Hill's finally as well.

gtadbzman
01-19-2010, 05:26 PM
Not Saying that Stroker and Hoop is a bad show, but I wish they would take it out so the anime would start earlier. If the new show is indeed FMA: Brotherhood, then I would expect it to air much earlier cuz you know the ratings will be good. Maybe when the other new anime show (Most likely InuYasha: The Final Act), and new episodes of Bleach start the anime will come on a bit earlier.

Scirel
01-19-2010, 05:53 PM
Wow, PJs is finally gone. FINALLY. Probably one of the worst acquisitions AS has ever made along with ripping friends.

Gold Guy
01-19-2010, 06:12 PM
I hope this new anime is a good one.

soundmonkey44
01-19-2010, 06:55 PM
PJ's leaving Stroker & hoop taking there place, FLCL coming back, 2 hrs of Bleach, New anime...Febuary is gonna be a good month for AS saturday nights!:anime:

Andrew T. Hingson
01-20-2010, 01:23 PM
Not Saying that Stroker and Hoop is a bad show, but I wish they would take it out so the anime would start earlier. If the new show is indeed FMA: Brotherhood, then I would expect it to air much earlier cuz you know the ratings will be good. Maybe when the other new anime show (Most likely InuYasha: The Final Act), and new episodes of Bleach start the anime will come on a bit earlier.

Well anime starts at Midnight again in February so that's an improvement. Would it be better if it started even a half hour earlier? Maybe. But then again the 12:30AM and 1AM premieres of Bleach did well much more consistantly than the midnight and earlier showings the show had from time to time.

I fully believe AS could take the comedy off of Saturday entirely and run double Inuyasha at 10 instead of KotH with anime premieres start at 11 or 11:30 but they're obviously not going to do that.

gtadbzman
01-20-2010, 01:33 PM
Well anime starts at Midnight again in February so that's an improvement. Would it be better if it started even a half hour earlier? Maybe. But then again the 12:30AM and 1AM premieres of Bleach did well much more consistantly than the midnight and earlier showings the show had from time to time.

I fully believe AS could take the comedy off of Saturday entirely and run double Inuyasha at 10 instead of KotH with anime premieres start at 11 or 11:30 but they're obviously not going to do that.Yeah. I wish they'd just run anime as well. I just wish it would start earlier cuz sometimes I have trouble staying up that late to watch. My main point is though, if Bleach repeats can almost beat KOTH in ratings than why not air earlier? You know Bleach and FMA will get much better ratings than Stroker and Hoop and in an earlier time slot I bet they could even do better. At least it's starting at midnight now though so that is an improvement like you said. Maybe when we get this other new anime (probably InuYasha: TFA), then maybe it'll start to air earlier.

Andrew T. Hingson
01-20-2010, 01:38 PM
Only time will tell. Unfortunately most cases when ASA was ran all of Saturday night it didn't do well enough to remain comedy infusion free. Action might be able to get that back if they have enough strong players to bring to the table.

I honestly believe double Inuyasha followed by double Bleach 10-12AM would do better than Boondocks, PJs, Stroker and maybe even KotH. It's obvious the comedy viewers are in far greater numbers but the action viewers have a lot of dedication so while Sunday's ratings get bizzaro quite often the Saturday ratings stay in the "pretty decent to good" range and only occasionally see a dip lower than that if it's a particularly big movie weekend. There is a good case for running Inuyasha, Bleach and FMA instead of the 4 comedies they air before the anime but as long as those comedies still more or less pull their weight it'll take some seriously good anime ratings for AS to make that change.

gtadbzman
01-20-2010, 01:46 PM
Only time will tell. Unfortunately most cases when ASA was ran all of Saturday night it didn't do well enough to remain comedy infusion free. Action might be able to get that back if they have enough strong players to bring to the table.

I honestly believe double Inuyasha followed by double Bleach 10-12AM would do better than Boondocks, PJs, Stroker and maybe even KotH. It's obvious the comedy viewers are in far greater numbers but the action viewers have a lot of dedication so while Sunday's ratings get bizzaro quite often the Saturday ratings stay in the "pretty decent to good" range and only occasionally see a dip lower than that if it's a particularly big movie weekend. There is a good case for running Inuyasha, Bleach and FMA instead of the 4 comedies they air before the anime but as long as those comedies still more or less pull their weight it'll take some seriously good anime ratings for AS to make that change.I think with FMA:B, InuYasha: TFA, Bleach, and Soul Eater, that they could actually pull it off in the ratings. All have very large fan bases and are popular enough to hold their own I'm sure. The one thing I doubt we'll see go is the first hour of KOTH but that's no biggie. The only thing is that when these shows run their course, then what'll be their next big thing. It'll be hard to find another anime that get big ratings like these. I would say AS is just lucky that 2 of their most successful anime series had remakes/sequels this year :sweat:.

Ace Goodheart
01-22-2010, 03:56 AM
How long has it been since AS lost the rights to "Big O" Season 1??? For the love of god, they've done re-run S2 to the ground. They need to take it off and never it......ever again. What's the point when you don't even have the first half of the show? I know that it airs late into the night, but AS should make good use of each and all of their anime timeslots, as it only airs once a week. At least push it to the very end, to 5:30AM.

In a way, "Big O" has become the AS equivalent of "The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest". Limited episodes, yet re-run to the ground. Like TRAOJQ, I seriously doubt that "Big O" will ever see the light of day again once its gone from AS. You'd think Bandai would be generous enough to let Turner permanently keep the rights to S1, after funding S2.

SpaceCowboy
01-22-2010, 12:34 PM
You'd think Bandai would be generous enough to let Turner permanently keep the rights to S1, after funding S2.
I don't know how possible that is. Turner worked directly with Sunrise (the company that animated the series in Japan) for S2, while
Bandai Ent's license to S1 was separate. In order to own full rights over S1, Turner would probably have to negotiate directly with Sunrise in Japan.

Ace Goodheart
01-22-2010, 02:59 PM
Well, I meant the broadcast rights, not full ownership, but yeah you have a point.

Deadman
01-22-2010, 08:56 PM
so are these the koth episodes that have yet to air anywhere, or just yet to air on adult swim?

chdr
01-22-2010, 09:50 PM
so are these the koth episodes that have yet to air anywhere, or just yet to air on adult swim?They have yet to air on AS. They might be showing the two unaired episodes afterwards, though.

Totally_Insaney
01-23-2010, 02:27 PM
I knew FLCL was going to return sometime. Excited to see it again, plus new KOTH Mondays. I hope they air those unaired episodes

veemonjosh
01-28-2010, 09:36 PM
They have yet to air on AS. They might be showing the two unaired episodes afterwards, though.

There were four unaired episodes.

I SERIOUSLY hope they air them before showing "To Sirloin With Love", because that was the actual finale.

Jtaylor1
01-28-2010, 09:40 PM
There were four unaired episodes.

I SERIOUSLY hope they air them before showing "To Sirloin With Love", because that was the actual finale.

4 unaired? There were only 6.

Beat
01-28-2010, 10:07 PM
You know, the longer this goes without a peep from the license company, the more I wonder if the "NEW ANIME" is just a parody ala Perfect Hair Forever.

Rud
01-28-2010, 10:13 PM
Maybe just its an old anime that would be new to the network?, Gungrave or Gadguard or something else not rescent (k not really, that's just me fantasizing).

Beat
01-28-2010, 10:22 PM
Maybe just its an old anime that would be new to the network?, Gungrave or Gadguard or something else not rescent (k not really, that's just me fantasizing).

And then whoever had the license would say "This show is going to air on Adult Swim, watch it."

Nothing. Not a word. Leading me to believe it's only one thing.

Perfect Hair Forever Season 3.

macattack
01-29-2010, 12:49 AM
While that would be an epic troll I wonder if the "legalities" are Cartoon Network meddling in the attempt to secure the license. I can see Snyder and Sorcher interfering in an attempted anime acquisition for whatever reason.

Adult Swim's independence from Cartoon Network is a lie. Don't ever be taken in by that.

Beat
01-29-2010, 07:44 AM
I don't think that's the case at least not here. I mean, you would have heard SOMETHING from voice actors, studios, or something by now in most cases. But if this is a troll job and we're getting more Perfect Hair Forever, no one would have to say anything because it's all in-house.

Isn't that sad though, that rather than air something with action or sex appeal they'd troll the little remains of the action fanbase.

chdr
01-29-2010, 10:18 AM
While that would be an epic troll I wonder if the "legalities" are Cartoon Network meddling in the attempt to secure the license. I can see Snyder and Sorcher interfering in an attempted anime acquisition for whatever reason.

Adult Swim's independence from Cartoon Network is a lie. Don't ever be taken in by that.While the fact that we haven't heard any news yet is disturbing (especially considering this deal allegedly started a year or so ago when Kim Manning went to Japan), I doubt executives would be so stupid as to prevent a show they already bought from airing on their network. If they didn't want it, they simply would have never ordered it in the first place.

Beat
01-29-2010, 10:27 AM
That's why I think this is a trolljob for a Willy Street original. If there was a deal, someone would have said something. Even if the deal fell through, someone would have said something.

When Perfect Hair is back on Feb 14, I think it will be safe to call action's death kneel.

GWOtaku
01-29-2010, 10:43 AM
That would mean that the theoretical other two anime are lies as well. I am massively skeptical.

Also, if there really are legal issues involved here, it's not a given that we'd have heard anything at all. If anything does leak, odds are somebody's getting into a hell of a lot of trouble.

Beat
01-29-2010, 11:49 AM
That would mean that the theoretical other two anime are lies as well. I am massively skeptical.

Also, if there really are legal issues involved here, it's not a given that we'd have heard anything at all. If anything does leak, odds are somebody's getting into a hell of a lot of trouble.

I think it's a very strong possibility they're lying about it. 12 oz Season 3? Korgoth greenlighted? More Smoking Gun? All lied about.

Think about it. If you were running into a stonewall with negotiations, would you place the big "new secret show!" date less than a month later, and risk looking stupid should negotiations stall or fall through? That's why I'm inclined to believe ASA is being trolled...again.

"Do the la la la la la..."

macattack
01-29-2010, 12:39 PM
While the fact that we haven't heard any news yet is disturbing (especially considering this deal allegedly started a year or so ago when Kim Manning went to Japan), I doubt executives would be so stupid as to prevent a show they already bought from airing on their network. If they didn't want it, they simply would have never ordered it in the first place.

What kind of behavior have you seen from Snyder and Sorcher to make you believe they're NOT that stupid? Look at how they threw Naruto away. Naruto.

I am beginning to believe Adult Swim was trying to sneak an anime acquisition onto the lineup and Snyder and Sorcher found out and they're trying to put the kibosh on it.

SpaceCowboy
01-29-2010, 02:44 PM
And if the news of 3 new anime is an outright lie, then I'll lose any respect for Williams Street and Adult Swim I still had.

Karl Olson
01-29-2010, 04:06 PM
Honestly, plenty of anime have managed to be kept under wraps until the public announcement. Shoot, FUNi keeps stuff under their hats all the time in spite of having company people in the public eye effectively every weekend of the year, and they do via a barrage of insane Non-Disclosure Agreements (which is why everyone was wondering if Vic has caught flack for letting slip the Tsubasa OVAs - that was the first slip in a long while from any VA.) [adult swim], especially if this is something they directly sourced from Japan as previous statements about visiting looking for content might suggest, would be in a even better position to enforce those restrictions. No VA would want to cross [as]/CN/Time Warner, and that would be your most likely leak point. The idea of being permanently blackballed from every major studio isn't appealing to anyone trying to eat off their voice. Even if it is just something they've bought off another distributor, CN has more than enough legal staff to strike fear into any company they're dealing with.

Of course, if it was direct-licensed from Japan, that would fit with another piece of information that's come up at a lot of cons, which is that [as]/CN has been adverse to anime in large part because they didn't own it lock, stock and barrel, leaving them solely with ad-revenue. If they've bought an anime outright, they'd get all the domestic DVD, Blu-Ray and merch sales. It would be a move that would give them part of what they want in any title: all of the proceeds from extra-network exposure. I could even see them doing this after how very, very well Spike did with Afro-Samurai; by co-producing that they cleaned up on it.

Of course, they could really screw with us and it's PPGZ. After all, half of the original's PPG's ratings were in the 18-34 demo.

chdr
01-29-2010, 04:07 PM
What kind of behavior have you seen from Snyder and Sorcher to make you believe they're NOT that stupid? Look at how they threw Naruto away. Naruto.

I am beginning to believe Adult Swim was trying to sneak an anime acquisition onto the lineup and Snyder and Sorcher found out and they're trying to put the kibosh on it.But they didn't buy Naruto just so they could shelve it. They simply chose not to renew it. Two completely different situations.

Otaku0013
01-29-2010, 04:25 PM
Looks like its FMA Brotherhood:

AS Backdoor Schedule (http://schedule.adultswim.com/servlet/ScheduleServlet?action=AS&theDate=2/12/10&timeZone=EST)

chdr
01-29-2010, 04:34 PM
Looks like its FMA Brotherhood:

AS Backdoor Schedule (http://schedule.adultswim.com/servlet/ScheduleServlet?action=AS&theDate=2/12/10&timeZone=EST)Interesting. Hopefully AS will be able to legally tell us the other two now.

Beat
01-29-2010, 04:45 PM
Looks like its FMA Brotherhood:

AS Backdoor Schedule (http://schedule.adultswim.com/servlet/ScheduleServlet?action=AS&theDate=2/12/10&timeZone=EST)

Just like ATHF movie was supposed to debut on TV.

Notice how "Brotherhood" is absent. I'm still calling epic troll.

veemonjosh
01-29-2010, 06:25 PM
4 unaired? There were only 6.

...I was talking about King of the Hill, not FLCL. Not sure how you got that mixed up at all.

Raidon Makoto
01-29-2010, 06:46 PM
Looks like its FMA Brotherhood:

AS Backdoor Schedule (http://schedule.adultswim.com/servlet/ScheduleServlet?action=AS&theDate=2/12/10&timeZone=EST)
Brotherhood dub in two weeks? Sweeet.

Gold Guy
01-29-2010, 07:19 PM
Just like ATHF movie was supposed to debut on TV.

Notice how "Brotherhood" is absent. I'm still calling epic troll.

C'mon, we may have good news, and you still choose to be the voice of doom?

chdr
01-29-2010, 07:29 PM
Just like ATHF movie was supposed to debut on TV.On April Fool's Day.

It's January right now.

macattack
01-29-2010, 07:41 PM
Well, that pretty much confirms it. I bet the ASMB is exploding right now.

One title down, and it's the most obvious choice. Two to go.

I'd also like to take the opportunity to announce that I called it. Where's that Stephen Colbert .jpg when you need it?

The Man in Black
01-29-2010, 07:46 PM
Well, that pretty much confirms it. I bet the ASMB is exploding right now.

One title down, and it's the most obvious choice. Two to go.

I'd also like to take the opportunity to announce that I called it. Where's that Stephen Colbert .jpg when you need it?
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z266/ocweeklycrew/colbertCalledIt.jpg

chdr
01-29-2010, 07:52 PM
Well, that pretty much confirms it. I bet the ASMB is exploding right now.

One title down, and it's the most obvious choice. Two to go.

I'd also like to take the opportunity to announce that I called it. Where's that Stephen Colbert .jpg when you need it?To be fair, it's not like everyone wasn't already considering FMA: Brotherhood. I'm just surprised they're doing it this early.

Beat
01-29-2010, 08:52 PM
C'mon, we may have good news, and you still choose to be the voice of doom?

No formal announcement, no ads from FUNi, the lack of "brotherhood" in the title...

They knew putting up FMA (which they still have the rights to) would create a fervor. The odds are still there for a trolling.

chdr
01-29-2010, 09:02 PM
No formal announcement, no ads from FUNi, the lack of "brotherhood" in the title...

They knew putting up FMA (which they still have the rights to) would create a fervor. The odds are still there for a trolling.This isn't a formal announcement. "Formal announcements" usually aren't found in the darkest depths of backdoor databases.

The Man in Black
01-29-2010, 09:14 PM
This isn't a formal announcement. "Formal announcements" usually aren't found in the darkest depths of backdoor databases.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to argue that.

chdr
01-29-2010, 09:20 PM
I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to argue that.Whoops :sweat:

Regardless, I doubt WS is trying to "troll" anybody here.

Beat
01-29-2010, 09:24 PM
I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to argue that.

I'm not. I'm just saying there is a lack of formal annoucement. And to be honest, I don't trust Williams Street. Especially when it comes to anime. This name brand, no formal announcement so soon? Something is amiss.

If they do formally announce FMA Brotherhood, great. I'll have an actual reason to watch again. But considering the secrecy so far, I'm not relying on a vague backdoor schedule to confirm the new series.

chdr
01-29-2010, 09:31 PM
I'm not. I'm just saying there is a lack of formal annoucement. And to be honest, I don't trust Williams Street. Especially when it comes to anime. This name brand, no formal announcement so soon? Something is amiss.

If they do formally announce FMA Brotherhood, great. I'll have an actual reason to watch again. But considering the secrecy so far, I'm not relying on a vague backdoor schedule to confirm the new series.If there are legal issues, then there's nothing they can do. But judging by how they've treated previous series, I don't think they would have made a big deal anyway.

Beat
01-29-2010, 09:41 PM
But Full Metal Alchemist was a big success for them in the past. That would be promoted. It'd be like giving a stealth premiere to new episodes of Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast. You know there's a very large audience for it, so why hide it?

GWOtaku
01-29-2010, 10:44 PM
Not that this necessarily means anything, but if you click on "see all showings" the schedule shows episodes for the original FMA that are coming up. On the other hand the time slot is different, and the schedule is breaking the current and sensible pattern of going through reruns two episodes at a time (though then again, they are after all temporarily tearing through Bleach).

My take: more likely than not. Soul Eater remains a good guess. One can at least speculate that FMA at midnight is a placeholder.

Oh, one flaw in my theory and others: FMA, FMA Brotherhood and Soul Eater are the work of studio Bones. Why would there be legal reasons for silence now when, AFAIK, there was no such issue for the first FMA?

Ah, yet another edit note. A flaw in the aforementioned flaw is that it doesn't account for FUNimation, though I don't understand why silence would be necessary here.

chdr
01-31-2010, 12:16 PM
Whatever the new anime is, AS has the streaming rights to it. (http://www.adultswim.com/schedule/video/index.html)

Vyse
01-31-2010, 12:38 PM
It could be FMA: Brotherhood, which is possible since that show would be a top priority in Funimation's "Things To Dub" list. It could be a massive troll. Either way, they're not promoting it.

Also, could the whole streaming of FMA Brotherhood subbed on FuniVideo/YouTube/Hulu be the legal reason [as] is alluding to? It could be possible.

macattack
02-01-2010, 01:10 AM
If the anime isn't revealed this week I'm just going to do an epic headdesk and facepalm all in one. Especially if it is FMA: Brotherhood, because that means it is getting worse treatment than Code Geass AND Moribito.

What the heck could they still be negotiating about? Running full OP and ED themes or something fairly insignificant like that? Come on. Whatever it is get it sorted out.

If this is FMA we're talking about, and it is getting treated this badly already, I can't imagine what'll happen to the other two titles. Just show up one day out of nowhere a la .hack//ROOTS?

Andrew T. Hingson
02-01-2010, 02:02 AM
Well that is a darn shame but hopefully the show still does well.

Moto Pete
02-01-2010, 05:42 AM
FINALLY it's Feb. New Episodes of ATHF & TIM AND ERIC

Beat
02-01-2010, 07:04 AM
Nothing, not a word.

I totally wouldn't be surprised if NEW ANIME ends up being a premiere for the new Tim and Eric's.

Andrew T. Hingson
02-01-2010, 11:08 AM
Stop wishing death into my life please.

Beat
02-01-2010, 04:06 PM
Stop wishing death into my life please.

You know I'd never want that man. We need you around here.

Look, all I'm saying is that there is a precedent for these types of pranks, particularly at the expense of ASA. That and the lack of any sort of announcement from the licensor is suspicious. That's all. It's an intriguing mystery nonetheless.

Andrew T. Hingson
02-01-2010, 04:50 PM
Yeah it COULD be shenanigans but I really don't think it is this time and will remain optomistic until proven otherwise.

macattack
02-01-2010, 05:01 PM
I don't think it is shenanigans but I think it's something that's actually serious, like the deal may be falling apart due to whatever reason (edits? Sorcher/Snyder interference? Production studio issues? Dub not far enough along?).

Andrew T. Hingson
02-01-2010, 05:07 PM
I don't think it is shenanigans but I think it's something that's actually serious, like the deal may be falling apart due to whatever reason (edits? Sorcher/Snyder interference? Production studio issues? Dub not far enough along?).

And that would be even worse than shenanigans. :shrug:

Gold Guy
02-01-2010, 05:09 PM
At this point, we'll just have to hope and see. AS has been known to play mean tricks in the past, but I don't think they'd go far enough to anger the anime fanbase.

macattack
02-01-2010, 05:14 PM
And that would be even worse than shenanigans. :shrug:

I know. I'd personally take shenanigans over something that might have been.

Seriously, I thought AS would've announced their anime before the Bears hired their offensive coordinator. When the Bears hired their coordinator (Mike Martz) before AS announced their anime, something's messed up in Williams Street.

Beat
02-01-2010, 05:53 PM
Until the dubbing studio makes an announcement (Or Feb 14, whichever comes firs) we don't have a conclusion. Just speculation.

Ex- Dr. Steve Brule (the Tim and Eric spinoff) was announced as airing this year, but unlike all the other stuff, was never given a date. Maybe we're getting Brule as the new show.

Keep in mind I don't want that to happen (I'd be happier if Brule never aired) I'm just looking at what's likely.

Raidon Makoto
02-01-2010, 05:54 PM
I really, wholly doubt that this is a troll by WS. They respect anime and wouldn't do this if they were unable to get new anime.

Dragonpiece
02-01-2010, 08:12 PM
I really, wholly doubt that this is a troll by WS. They respect anime and wouldn't do this if they were unable to get new anime.

I remember seeing a bump last year that really pissed me off it went like this.

Viewer "Dear Adult Swim, do you know why (insert question) happend in (insert anime)?

AS "Hm Oh, don't watch anymore."

Well it was something along those lines that made me annoyed about them.

Raidon Makoto
02-01-2010, 10:13 PM
I remember seeing a bump last year that really pissed me off it went like this.

Viewer "Dear Adult Swim, do you know why (insert question) happend in (insert anime)?

AS "Hm Oh, don't watch anymore."

Well it was something along those lines that made me annoyed about them.
They only do that because anime fans get ticked off about it. You just have to be cool about it and appreciate the joke.

Beat
02-01-2010, 10:21 PM
They only do that because anime fans get ticked off about it. You just have to be cool about it and appreciate the joke.

Not to add fuel to the fire, but a big "FOR YOUR HEALTH!" intro when people are expecting FMA Brotherhood wouldn't tick them off?

Ex- We're not airing anime. Why? This is for the best.

"FOR YOUR HEALTH!"

macattack
02-02-2010, 01:06 AM
Not to add fuel to the fire, but a big "FOR YOUR HEALTH!" intro when people are expecting FMA Brotherhood wouldn't tick them off?

Ex- We're not airing anime. Why? This is for the best.

"FOR YOUR HEALTH!"

Now you're just being cruel.

The Man in Black
02-02-2010, 06:18 AM
Not to add fuel to the fire, but a big "FOR YOUR HEALTH!" intro when people are expecting FMA Brotherhood wouldn't tick them off?

Ex- We're not airing anime. Why? This is for the best.

"FOR YOUR HEALTH!"
What's bad is Dr. Steve Brule is one of the more amusing segments from Tim & Eric. I will admit that there are parts of that show that I do actually find hilarious, like the fake cinco products and such..

Beat
02-02-2010, 07:49 AM
Now you're just being cruel.

Sorry, sorry. But if you'll look at the premiere list...


Venture Bros 4.5: August 22
Show We Can't Talk About: Saturday, February 6th
ATHF 9: February 7
Tim & Eric 5: February 28
Freaknik: March 21
Boondocks 3: March 28
Bleach 7-8: April 3
Children's Hospital: May 2
Cheyenne Cinnamon: May 9
Check It Out: May 16
Squids 5: May 16
Frankenhole: June 27
Delocated 2: July 11
Children's Hospital (listed twice?): July 11
Metal Season 4: August 22
Other Show We Can't Talk About: Saturday, September 25
Mongo Wrestling Alliance: October 10
Tight Bros: October 10
Robot Chicken 5: November 7
Venture Season Finale: December 5

Brule is nowhere in sight.

Rawr
02-02-2010, 11:23 AM
if you remember brule's show was called “check it out with dr steve brule” and “check it out” is listed there....

Beat
02-02-2010, 12:36 PM
if you remember brule's show was called “check it out with dr steve brule” and “check it out” is listed there....

Right. That it is.

Slightly OT, FUNi announced on their Twitter within minutes of the deal completing that they had DB Kai. Considering the timeframe till Feb 14, wouldn't one expect a word from them, if not AS?

The Man in Black
02-02-2010, 12:41 PM
Right. That it is.

Slightly OT, FUNi announced on their Twitter within minutes of the deal completing that they had DB Kai. Considering the timeframe till Feb 14, wouldn't one expect a word from them, if not AS?

I kinda doubt we're getting Dragonball of any kind on Adult Swim, but that's just my opinion. Of course, you may be trying to make a different point there..

Beat
02-02-2010, 12:48 PM
My point was that even if Adult Swim won't advertise or announce, FUNi would. And their complete silence is worrisome, at least for those wanting to see Brotherhood.

macattack
02-02-2010, 12:55 PM
SwimHumbug says its Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-Chan. I give it a 95% chance he's screwing with us.

Beat
02-02-2010, 01:06 PM
SwimHumbug says its Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-Chan. I give it a 95% chance he's screwing with us.

As another poster in that thread pointed out, 30 minute runs of that show would only last 6 weeks, while "New anime" is set to go far past that. The only way that would work is if it was a double bill with another 15 minute show.

Not to mention, nothing from the licensor.

macattack
02-02-2010, 01:08 PM
As another poster in that thread pointed out, 30 minute runs of that show would only last 6 weeks, while "New anime" is set to go far past that. The only way that would work is if it was a double bill with another 15 minute show.

Not to mention, nothing from the licensor.

You actually took that seriously? I took it as a joke and said so on the thread. I didn't even bother looking up the episode run-times and such.

The Man in Black
02-02-2010, 01:22 PM
SwimHumbug says its Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-Chan. I give it a 95% chance he's screwing with us.
What's terrible is that if it was that, I actually called it, albeit jokingly..

I highly HIGHLY doubt that it's FMA Brotherhood at this point considering the lack of promotion..

Otaku0013
02-02-2010, 02:48 PM
Zap2it.com's tv listings (http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/full-metal-alchemist/EP00700816) has Fullmetal Alchemist as the anime on Feb. 14. No episode title is given though.

macattack
02-02-2010, 03:15 PM
The signs keep pointing to Brotherhood. It's getting on my nerves. WHAT THE HECK IS PREVENTING THE ANNOUNCEMENT?

The Man in Black
02-02-2010, 03:38 PM
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object2/685/47/n63889783480_1394.jpg
from FUNi's official facebook page.

Otaku0013
02-02-2010, 04:07 PM
SwimHumbug, the admin from the official [as] forums admitted that the show was not Dokoro-chan and now says that the show is Fruits Basket:

This is really embarrassing guys. I linked to the wrong show. I meant to say that this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruits_Basket) is it.

However, he's just screwing with us.

macattack
02-02-2010, 04:12 PM
Does anyone think Humbug is leading up to something?

Rawr
02-02-2010, 04:37 PM
maybe....


if anything this makes me think less of FMA:Brotherhood and more of some comedy anime

Beat
02-02-2010, 04:57 PM
If you take "anime" out of that sentence, you might be right.

Classic Speedy
02-02-2010, 05:12 PM
SwimHumbug, the admin from the official [as] forums admitted that the show was not Dokoro-chan and now says that the show is Fruits Basket:

However, he's just screwing with us. Almost certainly a joke. Fruits Basket is an older show, at least when it comes to the fast nature of TV, and it wouldn't fit in, tone-wise, with the other AS programming. That's not to say it's a bad show, but I just can't picture it on the block.

Ironically, Dokuro-chan is more in line with AS Comedy, due to its comedic gore and 15 minute running times, but of course, it's got fanservice so it's a no-go.

creativerealms
02-02-2010, 06:29 PM
At this point it actually being FMA Brotherhood would be the biggest troll of all as that's what people least expect.

Beefy
02-02-2010, 10:54 PM
Well I saw a promo for Freaknik. Still nothing for the new Saturday show.

SpaceCowboy
02-02-2010, 11:06 PM
Ironically, Dokuro-chan is more in line with AS Comedy, due to its comedic gore and 15 minute running times, but of course, it's got fanservice so it's a no-go.Now, I would actually watch that if it were to come to AS. Too bad it's most likely not what's going to be airing. :sad:

Whatever anime WS has under their hats, it better be good. By that I mean something that is jaw-droppingly insanely good, because the lack of announcement is just getting ridiculous.

FTPC
02-03-2010, 11:00 AM
So when are the new anime shows going to debut or premeire on {AS} which saturday or it is one big joke by {AS} and there is no new anime only more Dumb Comedy shows..?

Beat
02-03-2010, 12:32 PM
So when are the new anime shows going to debut or premeire on {AS} which saturday or it is one big joke by {AS} and there is no new anime only more Dumb Comedy shows..?

Let's break it down.

What we know:

Adult Swim has said that they MAY have three new anime for this year.

There are two listed "shows we can't talk about" on the schedule. Backdoor schedules have Full Metal Alchemist as a place holder. AS's grids just say "NEW ANIME".

As of today, no licensor has made a peep about airing their show on AS.

Theories:

1. The new anime is Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, but there is a problem with negotiations for whatever reason.

2. The new anime is another show with negotiation problems.

3. AS is keeping the identity of the show secret to avoid another Moribito fiasco (Ie: don't know the show, don't care, won't watch) and to drum up interest. This however fails to take the licensor into account.

4. There is no new show. Adult Swim plans on pranking the anime fans with a stealth comedy premiere. Theorists point towards Tim and Eric Awesome Show as a likely candidate for such a prank due to it being what is charitably described as "divisive."

Anyway, the bottom line is no one knows for sure until someone makes an official announcement or Feb 14 rolls around, whichever comes first.

chdr
02-03-2010, 03:00 PM
As of today, no licensor has made a peep about airing their show on AS.
Funimation has hinted that AS picked up something from them.

SandStone88
02-03-2010, 03:07 PM
Funimation has hinted that AS picked up something from them.
Did they say it was one show? Or two? Or were they being very vague about that? lolz

Beat
02-03-2010, 03:13 PM
Funimation has hinted that AS picked up something from them.

Where did you find that?

macattack
02-03-2010, 03:54 PM
I think it was off their Twitter some time ago.

Rawr
02-03-2010, 06:54 PM
4. There is no new show. Adult Swim plans on pranking the anime fans with a stealth comedy premiere. Theorists point towards Tim and Eric Awesome Show as a likely candidate for such a prank due to it being what is charitably described as "divisive."



i really dont understand why they would use Tim and Eric for that type of joke
(atlease not a premiere episode)
that series already has plenty of fans that would be upset if they missed a new episode.... so [as] would just be shooting themselves in the foot if they did that

chdr
02-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Where did you find that?They never explicitly said anything, but they retweeted the news that AS had picked up new anime. I don't see why they would have done it if they weren't involved.

Beat
02-03-2010, 07:12 PM
i really dont understand why they would use Tim and Eric for that type of joke
(atlease not a premiere episode)
that series already has plenty of fans that would be upset if they missed a new episode.... so [as] would just be shooting themselves in the foot if they did that

Well...

1. Even if they stealth premiered Season 5 of T&E on Feb 14, nothing's stopping them from premiering it properly on Feb 22.

2. The show is one of the few that is actively despised, more so than a lot of their other stuff. A divisive show like T&E, which fans have expressed distaste for, would make the joke hit that much harder.

FTPC
02-03-2010, 07:22 PM
Let's break it down.

What we know:

Adult Swim has said that they MAY have three new anime for this year.

There are two listed "shows we can't talk about" on the schedule. Backdoor schedules have Full Metal Alchemist as a place holder. AS's grids just say "NEW ANIME".

As of today, no licensor has made a peep about airing their show on AS.

Theories:

1. The new anime is Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, but there is a problem with negotiations for whatever reason.

2. The new anime is another show with negotiation problems.

3. AS is keeping the identity of the show secret to avoid another Moribito fiasco (Ie: don't know the show, don't care, won't watch) and to drum up interest. This however fails to take the licensor into account.

4. There is no new show. Adult Swim plans on pranking the anime fans with a stealth comedy premiere. Theorists point towards Tim and Eric Awesome Show as a likely candidate for such a prank due to it being what is charitably described as "divisive."

Anyway, the bottom line is no one knows for sure until someone makes an official announcement or Feb 14 rolls around, whichever comes first.
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Look please understand my take on this I am not mad at anyone on this board or in the rest of TZ forum, But I am tried of anime getting the lack of respect on {AS} and comedy is king on that network..

Remember about two to four years ago when {AS} started the 6 nights a week of comedy that is when I just snap on {AS} and will not watch any comedy program on {AS} and I took the side of anime & anime fans every wear..

AndrewSP
02-03-2010, 07:57 PM
Slightly OT, FUNi announced on their Twitter within minutes of the deal completing that they had DB Kai. Considering the timeframe till Feb 14, wouldn't one expect a word from them, if not AS?
Hmmm, would it be such a stretch to think that Dragon Ball Kai might be the mysterious anime? I mean, it's supposed to appeal to the same demographic as Bleach, which has been doing gangbusters (comparatively) in the ratings. Though, I personally hope it's not, but let's look at what we know anyway.

Arguments for:

Responding to what you said about the announcement, it couldn't have been licensed recently, as Walmart now lists the first DVD/BD set coming out on May 18th (http://www.walmart.com/ip/13724201). Also, The Fanboy Review confirms that dubbing started last year (http://www.fanboyreview.net/2010/02/02/dragon-ball-kai-announced-heres-extra-info/). The licensing of the show was kept secret until a few days ago, just like Adult Swim's mystery show, and was only confirmed by Funimation after it slipped out at a Navarre conference call.

Also, the thirteenth episode of the mystery show would air the night of May 8, a week and a half before the first DBZ Kai DVD/BD set. FMA:B's first set is due out next month. Soul Eater's set comes out before the new show premieres, so that effectively makes it's chances much lower. I know Samurai Champloo's DVDs came out before its premiere, but no recent AS action show has done that, save for possibly Moribito, and those were under different circumstances.

Arguments against:

What would go against this theory is the audience that Toei and Funimation would want to have for this show. It's likely that both would love to get kids and teenagers watching, just like the original, and having the series on AS would effectively kill that market. The show would probably work well on Disney XD alongside Naruto.

And why would Adult Swim get a Dragon Ball series? It's not entirely new, and I personally think it skews younger than even Bleach. The only possible reasons I can think of are that there are fans of the series on staff, they want a shounen show to go along with Bleach, Funimation was desperate to get this on TV, or a combination of the above.

Also, this would disregard the evidence on the backdoor schedule, and it would mean that FMA: Brotherhood won't get a TV run on AS, which would be a shame, as I would have preferred FMA over DBZ. There are also many newer and better shows that could air, IMO.

Karl Olson
02-03-2010, 08:40 PM
Well, DB:Kai wouldn't totally shut out FMA:B, and it really would explain why they had to keep mum about it. After all, no one had said word one about Kai until that Navarre conference call.

Of course, given that reveal, why wouldn't the fact that it was going to air on TV also be mentioned to stock holders. I mean, I doubt the secret keeping would've been a two way street...

Hmm, I'm back to thinking we're getting FMA:B.

Rawr
02-03-2010, 08:41 PM
Well...

1. Even if they stealth premiered Season 5 of T&E on Feb 14, nothing's stopping them from premiering it properly on Feb 22.

2. The show is one of the few that is actively despised, more so than a lot of their other stuff. A divisive show like T&E, which fans have expressed distaste for, would make the joke hit that much harder.

both of which are good arguments for why they would do it... but it still doesnt make sense

sure one could say "its adult swim and they do stuff like this to make fun of anime fans", but would they really go to that level? sure they did it once with squidbillies, but (atlease from what ive seen over at the ASMB) anime fans are already fed up with the treatment. doing something like that would prob. be one of the last straws for many ASA fans. and while some still think that [as] is planning on pulling anime completely from the schedule....


wouldnt it be better for them just to put an older anime title on or change the schedule instead of making fans leave?


clearly this is just my thinking.... but i just dont think [as] would do that.

Beat
02-03-2010, 09:55 PM
I think they are. At this point, considering how minute a ratings impact anime is, doing something for the lulz will not negatively affect them.

FTPC
02-03-2010, 11:10 PM
Rawr is right as one person is on the {AS}MB I can tell you frist how much of a warzone it is and about the shows I don't care if it FMA brother hood or Dragon ball Kai or Both or Monster from the syfy channel. as long as it is not more comedy..

AndrewSP
02-04-2010, 01:13 AM
Of course, given that reveal, why wouldn't the fact that it was going to air on TV also be mentioned to stock holders. I mean, I doubt the secret keeping would've been a two way street...

Hmm, I'm back to thinking we're getting FMA:B.
That's a good point. Revealing that one of their new series also has a TV deal, even if it wasn't said where, would have been positive news, if there was, in fact, a deal in place. Personally, I'm rooting for FMA:B, and I think it's more likely than DBZ Kai, but I just had to state some interesting facts. Whatever anime they happen to premiere, I'll check it out.


I think they are. At this point, considering how minute a ratings impact anime is, doing something for the lulz will not negatively affect them.

If this were anytime near April 1, or 5am, I would agree. But Adult Swim isn't THAT idiotic, IMO. They've trash talked anime, anime fans, and given horrible timeslots to anime. But I just can't see them pulling a stunt like you're implying. Bleach has been pulling fairly good ratings (at least for Saturday) lately, especially considering they're been running reruns since December. There is no reason to tarnish a perfectly good schedule just for the lulz.

If anything, it's that they haven't learned from past mistakes. They never promoted Code Geass on air until the week before it premiered, and it never even got a full promo! And look what happened to it.

If they do, in fact, troll us like you say, I'll gladly eat my words.

The Man in Black
02-04-2010, 06:55 AM
You know, it would have been nice if we had even gotten something like this by now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPENkF8aEJ0

I also remember then doing a faux-promo that at least had clips from the show but I can't seem to find it anywhere..

As for a regular promo, I'd even settle for them telling us to "Stop Crying" again.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYPjqJQigz4

Bozhi V.
02-04-2010, 08:20 AM
And again... (http://www.adultswim.com/schedule/onair.html)

-Frisky Dingo and Harvey Birdman replaces Look Around You this Sunday
-Moral Orel will still continute rerund on Monday-Thursday on 1AM
-Freaknik will be reaired 3/11 at 12:30AM and 13/3 at 11PM
-NEW ANIME stay still as NEW ANIME :shrug:

Beat
02-04-2010, 08:53 AM
Well, I can't fault Moral Orel being re-aired.

Still nothing on the anime, which will of course give rise to more rumors. The ASMB is having coniption fits over the theory, but I'm not sure how different that is from the norm. That being said, I would like to hear confirmation of something soon, but the closer we get without info, the more inclined I am to believe we're being pranked.

The Man in Black
02-04-2010, 09:45 AM
Something I really miss about Toonami is that anime fans/shows were treated as if they mattered/were cool.

creativerealms
02-04-2010, 01:07 PM
Something I really miss about Toonami is that anime fans/shows were treated as if they mattered/were cool.

Toonami stopped caring itself around the mid point of 2007 maybe even sooner. Much the same way Adult Swim use to care about anime at first but stopped caring as their focus changed.

However I do agree with you. One of the things I like the most about Naruto Shippuden on Disney XD is that Disney XD seems to care about the show. They are advertising it like crazy, airing it every weekday already and giving enough airings to please everyone. It feels like the good old days even if it's just for one show.

The strangest thing is not Adult Swim not annoucing what they have but the anime company not annoucing it. With a new anime in a couple weeks I would think FUNi would have let it out if it was Brotherhood. Unless they can't.

Andrew T. Hingson
02-04-2010, 02:10 PM
Well to be fair, Toonami eventually wasn't controlled by WS and it's clear the general CN staff didn't really care much about those anime series except for when they got amazing ratings.

Only a part of WS loves anime and the other part may very well loathe it and the anime fanbase but I really don't think they are intentionally keeping us in the dark here.

macattack
02-04-2010, 02:32 PM
I don't think Cartoon Network likes anime at all considering where they've dumped Pokemon and 5Ds and even Bakugan, all unadvertised and rerun only in morning/afternoon slots when kids are at school. I don't see any need to sugarcoat an obvious bias. Granted, there isn't a lot coming from Japan but there's no need to treat what is there like embarrassments to be hidden in the attic.

I think there are serious issues behind the scene right now that's preventing the anime title from being revealed. I think it's more unnerving than anything else. I genuinely don't think it's a prank, rather something serious isn't going according to plan.

ChibiGoku
02-04-2010, 04:50 PM
Take a look what they said on their twitter just recently (in response to someone asking about FMA:B Dub news):


FUNimation Twitter Post@nachonaco (http://twitter.com/nachonaco) No, seriously, good news is coming very soon. Soon you'll be swimming in it.

FUNimation's Twitter Post (http://twitter.com/funimation/status/8640501606)

Take that as you will.

Rawr
02-04-2010, 05:04 PM
Take a look what they said on their twitter just recently (in response to someone asking about FMA:B Dub news):



Take that as you will.



that could mean many different things... but ill take it as a sign that a television deal is gonna come



and kills my happiness for Dokuro-Chan being the anime




No Zansu icon T_____________T

FireStarterLE
02-04-2010, 06:17 PM
ANN says (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-02-04/adult-swim-to-debut-fullmetal-alchemist/brotherhood) Brotherhood will run for 26 episodes

Karl Olson
02-04-2010, 07:06 PM
So in other words, the obvious choice won. Makes sense, because that's definitely a title that would've gotten airtime elsewhere if not locked up on AS.

FTPC
02-06-2010, 05:59 PM
macattack

I don't think Cartoon Network likes anime at all considering where they've dumped Pokemon and 5Ds and even Bakugan, all unadvertised and rerun only in morning/afternoon slots when kids are at school. I don't see any need to sugarcoat an obvious bias. Granted, there isn't a lot coming from Japan but there's no need to treat what is there like embarrassments to be hidden in the attic.

I think there are serious issues behind the scene right now that's preventing the anime title from being revealed. I think it's more unnerving than anything else. I genuinely don't think it's a prank, rather something serious isn't going according to plan.
02-04-2010 02:10 PM
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About CN' &{AS} I think you are right Because why else would CN put their top three anime shows in dead time slots and Why is Poke'mon is the show that is shown twice on weekdays and weekends.

Should Bakugan , and pokemon and 5d's be all group together and shown the afternoon like 2pm to 3pm and then when sunday rolls around i have change to 7:30am to 8:30am.. AS For {AS} Not caring for anime this is also ture because I am on the [as} boards, and the board is like Jedi knights (anime )Vs the darth Sisth. (comedy)

Because i see less and less anime boards and more comedy board going up, It will be a sad day for anime fans everywhere if CN & [AS} remove anime from their line ups

Take my advice Start an amine collection that way you will be open to any anime Regaurdless of a network's rights turst me i would be a good idea in the long run..

Japan-
I don't think any amine is bad that comes from the land of the rasing sun, Weak maybe but not an embrassment. The embrassment should be point at the rest od america tv. for Not showing enough anime or Using networks for anime because we don't need 20 home shopping networks, or 20 god channels or 40 Sports packages..

That is Why I pround of Syfy and chiller for taking a chance on anime, However I am disappointed in G4 and IFC for not sticking with anime in the long Hall The Sindacated line of g4 and IFC is just sicking COPS on g4 That is Just wrong...

Shredhead
02-06-2010, 10:33 PM
That is Why I pround of Syfy and chiller for taking a chance on anime, However I am disappointed in G4 and IFC for not sticking with anime in the long Hall The Sindacated line of g4 and IFC is just sicking COPS on g4 That is Just wrong...


Well G4 didn't stick with anything they got from TechTV besides XPlay they pretty much fired everyone that was part of TechTV. Well they kept one more show besides Xplay I think I saw Wired for Sex on there recently not shocking it was that show. Sorry to get off topic and on a rant but I really hate what that network has become.