"TNA iMPACT!" December 2009 Talkback (Spoilers)

[The Penguin]

While it's still nice outside the iMPACT! Zone, it is snowing today in other parts of the country as TNA moves into December and the build towards Final Resolution.


http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/spike.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/tna.jpgPREVIEW FOR TONIGHT'S TNA WRESTLING "IMPACT!" ON SPIKE TV STARTING AT 9/8c

On Thursday night, TNA Wrestling returns to SpikeTV at 9/8c for two hours of Total Nonstop Action as the road to the December 20 "Final Resolution" Pay-Per-View continues

The below is a preview of Thursday's broadcast:

-The interview wrestling fans have been waiting for - TNA President Dixie Carter in an exclusive at home interview on the state of TNA and what the future holds for Hulk Hogan, Sting and Jeff Jarrett!

- Plus, how will Kurt Angle exact his revenge on Desmond Wolfe for his loss this past week?

- In Knockouts action, it will be Hamada vs Sarita
- Plus, Beer Money vs Eric Young and Kevin Nash

All this and more on Thursday's TNA "iMPACT!" on SpikeTV at 9/8c

[AJ1]

Great episode of Impact last night with lots of actual wrestling! I liked how instead of cheap 2 minute matches or 6 man X-Division matches we were treated to lots of singles matches that lasted a decent ammount of tome for television. Shelley vs Williams was a great opener with Shelley getting the hard earned victory, Suicide vs Homicide was a fun little match that had some good wrestling involved and Pope vs Jesse Neil was pretty good to and Jesse isn't that bad of a wrestler despite his silly look. All in all I was impressed by this Impact with my only complain being that we never got a main event, it ended kind of funky.....

[Blueprint]

So when Hogan comes to TNA very soon He plan's on bring some of the ex WWE/WCW guys's?And Kevin talks about bringing back the NWO to TNA?

[The Penguin]

For the second week in a row I was not in my normal "TV watching place" and once again, I was bored out of my mind and when I felt like the show should be almost over it was barely 9 CT. This week I should be back to normal so we'll see what that's like.

I think Wolfe owes Roddy Piper a nickel for throwing out "change the questions" during his promo. For as much excitement as his debut generated here I found his promo very generic.

I always like seeing Alex Shelley in action so it was cool with me that he kicked off the wrestling part of the show.

Mick trying to figure out what is going is can be at least kind of fun. "You think Hogan's gonna get you another run with the European belt, D'Lo?!" I liked how Jarrett didn't even seem to know who he was talking to. :p

I'm hoping that with Homicide knowing who Suicide is will end this soon for Kaz. I've been over it for a while and I always liked Kaz.

I don't know how "real" Tara was being with ODB, but it really resonated with me. I found ODB really annoying here though. I don't know what it is, but she was pretty cool at first, but she has just gotten more and more annoying.

I couldn't believe they listed Jesse Neal as "6'4 with mohawk." He's more of a character now than he was before which is a good thing. Mark Henry was much better off when WWE stopped trying to make him an American hero all those years ago.

"When I bark, that dog over there, he bites." I wonder how deep that bark is now after Kristal verbally did something that if done physically would make Lashley's voice a lot higher. "Lovely singing voice though."

I thought the answer to "Where do you see TNA in 10 years?" was bankrupt with its library owned by World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. but that's not what Dixie said. :p This interview offered no insight whatsoever. The most notable part was how she was willing to answer the Jarrett question and not actually say anything.

Try as I might, I am almost always semi-tuned out by the main event segment. I guess it was just chaos anyway with Raven & Stevie and then Wolfe's attack.

[hobbyfan]

Only really got into the main event. Gee, y'think with Taz on color, they'd actually reference that Raven & Stevie were once tag team champs (2-time ECW tag champs), and if you recall, they did ID "Dr. Stevie" as Stevie Richards when he came in a while back. Russo might like recycling angles, but he sure as shootin' doesn't do enough research when it isn't his material. ;) :p :mad:

Desmond Wolfe strikes me as more of a James Bond-type villain. I can picture someone in a Bond movie pulling off the shades before doing something, then putting them back on. The only mistake made with him since coming in was hot-shotting him right into a feud with Kurt Angle, kind of the same way Russo hot-shotted Kurt into a feud with Samoa Joe 3 years ago, instead of the slow build it deserved. Russo just doesn't get it.

Memo to Jeff Jarrett: Trying to be Charlie Townsend on a cell phone with Mick Foley isn't going to work. Mick's got a few screws loose (in this angle). It will be interesting to see how Jeff will be presented when he returns physically to the Impact Zone, and you know that'll happen, as he has some unfinished business with Hulk Hogan that hasn't been referenced yet.

[The Penguin]

I have never been a Vince Russo hater, but in a recent interview on U.K. radio show called "The Ministry of Slam," Bret Hart had this say about Russo:

"I don't have any personal grudge against Vince Russo, but I just know watching the shows that all his shows look the same. TNA has turned into sort of another version of WCW when I was with Russo there. I think the best wrestling always needs to pretend to be real, and Vince Russo’s wrestling is so pathetically far-fetched and phony that I think he does a disservice to his wrestlers and the business."

[hobbyfan]

I have never been a Vince Russo hater, but in a recent interview on U.K. radio show called "The Ministry of Slam," Bret Hart had this say about Russo:

"I don't have any personal grudge against Vince Russo, but I just know watching the shows that all his shows look the same. TNA has turned into sort of another version of WCW when I was with Russo there. I think the best wrestling always needs to pretend to be real, and Vince Russo’s wrestling is so pathetically far-fetched and phony that I think he does a disservice to his wrestlers and the business."

Can I get an AMEN? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Blueprint]

Tomko has to be the Masked man.

[The Penguin]

Well, TNA is doing it. Personally, I find the way they are declaring war to be incredibly short-sighted. They've already made it so it's not about them, it's about the WWE and if it's not about you, then why should anyone care about you?

Personally, I'm already more concerned with how great RAW is gonna be that night. Maybe TNA will have Tony Schiavone in some kind of control center where he will tell fans that WWE is showing something better and they will all switch. :p



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HULKAMANIA IS COMING BACK TO MONDAY NIGHT ON “TNA iMPACT!” LIVE JANUARY 4 ON SPIKE TV

Hulk Hogan’s First Live Appearance On Spike TV’s “TNA iMPACT” Will Be In A Special 3-Hour Live Episode Monday, January 4 At 8:00 PM ET/PT

The biggest name in professional wrestling history, Hulk Hogan, will make his first live appearance on Total Nonstop Action (TNA) Wrestling’s “TNA iMPACT!” in a live 3-hour special on Spike TV Monday, January 4, 2010 at 8:00PM ET/PT. Hogan and TNA President Dixie Carter attended “The Ultimate Fighter Heavyweights” Finale in Las Vegas where Hogan made the announcement in an interview with Joe Rogan.

“TNA iMPACT!” will be going against “WWE Monday Raw” on USA Network, the first time two wrestling companies have broadcast live head-to-head since the “Monday Night Wars” in the late 1990’s between WWE and WCW. This “iMPACT!” special will broadcast live from the TNA iMPACT! Zone at Universal Studios in Orlando, Fl.

Hogan’s first appearance inside the six-sided ring of TNA Wrestling will follow weeks of speculation after Hogan and Carter announced their partnership on October 27 at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Hogan has hinted in various media interviews that he’ll have multiple surprises in store for TNA Wrestling fans.

“I knew when I signed with TNA, that it would be important to make a statement with the first episode. Going head-to-head on January 4th, makes the statement loud and clear: Game on!” Hogan said.

“TNA is kicking off 2010 in the biggest way possible with the biggest name in the history of our sport. Hulk Hogan is a pop culture icon, and his arrival will change not only TNA, but the entire professional wrestling landscape. We’re firing that first shot,” Carter said.

Joining Hogan for the three-hour live “iMPACT!” will be TNA World Heavyweight Champion “The Phenomenal” AJ Styles, Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle, Mick Foley, Kevin Nash, “The Samoan Submission Machine” Samoa Joe, “The Boss” Bobby Lashley and “The Blueprint” Matt Morgan.

“TNA iMPACT!” will resume its normal timeslot on Thursday, January 7th at 9:00 PM ET/PT with an encore viewing of the live “iMPACT!” special.

[Fifi Fanatic]

Despite Dixie and company's bravado, they are not ready to declare war. At this point, TNA would be Custer and WWE would be the Indians.

IF this does somehow turn into a war that forces both sides to improve their product, then the real winner will be us.

[AJ1]

I saw the big announcement while watching UFC last night on Spike, I personally think this is a great idea and I am excited to see if TNA garners a higher rating because of it. If TNA can get their 1.0-1.2 average to a 1.7-2.0 then I think it's time to move Impact to Monday nights and make it perminant.

[Wonderwall]

TNA isn't going to get a high rating that night. It's probably going to get slaughtered. A victory for them would be if they can get a normal Impact rating that night.

[Blueprint]

Well I'm not sure if if some of you were watching UFC,But Hulk Hogan has confirmed that TNA wrestling will be competing with Monday Night Raw Janurary 4th 2010 and It's live,Visit TNA wrestling.com for more info. The link is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7SX7bGVyeE&feature=player_embedded


I wonder what will WWE do to counter attack?Maybe Vince will say something about this Monady or the week after.

Someone already beat me to it.....Oh well.

[Hobbes829]

raw will be a 3 hour show.

Everyone keeps talking about the ratings. It's not really about the ratings so much as the ppv buyrates and live attendence. Both of which are embarassingly low for TNA.

[The Penguin]

Everyone keeps talking about the ratings. It's not really about the ratings so much as the ppv buyrates and live attendence. Both of which are embarassingly low for TNA.That may be, but there can be little doubt that this show on Monday will be about the ratings. They may be wrong, but this is TNA's approach as probably 90% of their live attendance is free.

[Blueprint]

I hope this monday or next monday Vince say's something about TNA or brags about he's has nothing to fear and will destroy TNA like he did to WCW/ECW in the past.

A fan can only dream.

[The Penguin]

WWE will respond by making a special effort to make this episode of RAW a can't miss episode, not talking about TNA. TNA is foolish and stupid to publicly declare war with so much bravado. WWE is too smart to publicly acknowledge it.

On a side note, this coincides with Week 17 of the NFL season and there is no Monday Night Football game on the 4th.

[AJ1]

The bottom line is that TNA knows they are not going to beat the WWE, they are doing this to try to gain some exposure and to try to bring some awareness to the fact that there is another wrestling company out there other than WWE and that there is an alternative, if people are sitting at home thinking that TNA really believes they can match or beat WWE then they have no sense of business whatsoever. The goal is to pull in some jaded WWE fans, bring in some UFC fans and to turn a few heads right now and try to build upon that, Dixie and Hogan don't actually think they can beat Raw and they are not doing this at this point of time to do so.

[Blueprint]

The bottom line is that TNA knows they are not going to beat the WWE, they are doing this to try to gain some exposure and to try to bring some awareness to the fact that there is another wrestling company out there other than WWE and that there is an alternative, if people are sitting at home thinking that TNA really believes they can match or beat WWE then they have no sense of business whatsoever. The goal is to pull in some jaded WWE fans, bring in some UFC fans and to turn a few heads right now and try to build upon that, Dixie and Hogan don't actually think they can beat Raw and they are not doing this at this point of time to do so.

What if TNA actually did beat WWE for that night only?

[Wonderwall]

What if TNA actually did beat WWE for that night only?

Kind of not going to happen but hypothetically if they did they'd stay there most likely or try to get a Monday slot. But that's not realistic.

[Blueprint]

Kind of not going to happen but hypothetically if they did they'd stay there most likely or try to get a Monday slot. But that's not realistic.


Basically most of you think TNA is signing their own death warrant?

[Wonderwall]

No, if this was a weekly show it might be. It's a one time shot to try and get some exposure and if they can even get a regular Impact rating I think it's done it's job. I think it's too fast as TNA still hasn't been able to crack the ratings celing for Impact or more importantly done good PPV buys or live paid attendence.

[Blueprint]

If raw does do a 3 hour special on the same day Impact is going live,Then I would have to say that this is going to be the best monday night war(for one night)Ever!

[AJ1]

What if TNA actually did beat WWE for that night only?

They won't and it isn't really their goal, it's more of their hope. Their true goal is to turn some heads and to bait a few new fans to the product, if they do that then they will have done what they set out to do. In the end, TNA has nothing to lose with this test, WWE technically does but it won't hurt them too bad....

[hobbyfan]

despite dixie and company's bravado, they are not ready to declare war. At this point, tna would be custer and wwe would be the indians.

rotflmao!!!

[Azrayel]

What if TNA actually did beat WWE for that night only? Well Russo better get his head out of his ass and make good matches and storylines that actually make sense.


For the second week in a row I was not in my normal "TV watching place" and once again, I was bored out of my mind and when I felt like the show should be almost over it was barely 9 CT.
Yep thats exactly how I feel again for that iMPACT episode, and I hope this weeks will be better.

[Condiment King]

WWE will respond by making a special effort to make this episode of RAW a can't miss episode, not talking about TNA. TNA is foolish and stupid to publicly declare war with so much bravado. WWE is too smart to publicly acknowledge it.

On a side note, this coincides with Week 17 of the NFL season and there is no Monday Night Football game on the 4th.
Monday, January 4th is also the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl in Tempe, Arizona, on FOX pitting two undefeated teams against each other: Boise State vs TCU. And on one of the radio shows on Wrestling Observer, it was said that John Cena will be doing the coin flip for that to build publicity for WrestleMania 26 in Arizona. So that would make him not available for the Raw on 1/4 unless plans change.

While I did skip the Lashley/Steiner stuff and all the World Elite stuff, I watched the rest of last week's Impact and found it to be pretty great. I love what they are doing with both Nigel and Daniels. I kinda hope the masked man is Nigel so that AJ can feud with Nigel next. It being Tomko would be disappointing.

[The Penguin]

Good to see TNA removed "card subject to change" from the preview. I have to say, I could never figure out how with TNA being taped it was possible by the time the preview was posted.


http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/spike.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/tna.jpgPREVIEW FOR TONIGHT'S HUGE "iMPACT!" ON SPIKE TV AT 9/8c

Tonight, TNA Wrestling returns to SpikeTV at 9/8c for two hours of Total Nonstop Action as the road to the December 20 "Final Resolution" Pay-Per-View event continues

- TNA Executive Shareholder Mick Foley heads to TNA Offices to find Jeff Jarrett!

- More news on Hulk Hogan and TNA President Dixie Carter and the live "iMPACT!" on Monday night, January 4!

- Plus, TNA World Heavyweight Champion AJ Styles, Kurt Angle, Bobby Lashley, Team 3D, Mick Foley and many more of your favorite TNA Superstars

All this and much more on Thursday's TNA "iMPACT!" on SpikeTV at 9/8c!

[Blueprint]

Here is the video

http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1841/84/

[The Penguin]

Well, I wasn't painfully bored this week so I guess that's a good thing. Right around the start of the second hour it started to drag a bit, but then it picked back up.

I don't know if Mick actually got a meeting with Hogan (I could see Nash just sending him somwhere), but even though he really shouldn't be in the main event, Nash is still an entertaining personality so it was neat having him in charge.

Does anyone care about Brutus & Doug getting frustrated with Big Rob for assorted miscues which are often not his fault? I certainly don't. If all this leads to the Machine Guns winning the Tag Titles I'm in favor.

No one does an interview like Scott Steiner does (take that however you like ;) ).

ODB vs. Tara was about the time I started to get bored and was very much aware that we were just an hour in, but I guess it got a little better.

When you do a run-in like The Pope did, you don't use theme music, he should just show up. I did like how Jesse was just wearing his jacket to the ring.

The idea that anyone other than his momma cares about Tomko enough to watch him training before he returns to the TNA ring is laughable. I don't dislike Tomko, but he doesn't need the special treatment.

The mud wrestling match was what it was.

I had pretty much forgotten about Lethal and his legends challenge. The Anvil beat him almost a month ago now.

So Desmond Wolfe has money now too? A new guy shouldn't be able to win an auction. I guess he got ripped off then because Daniels wants to keep A.J. for himself.




Here is the video

http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1841/84/Abyss getting burned was stupid. Why on Earth were so many people just standing around watching?!! It looked like they were practicing it and then it being used on the actual taping was vetoed and then someone decided they should use it afterall, but then it wasn't filmed so they had to go with the rehearsal.

[hobbyfan]

I read the spoilers, and I'm glad I didn't watch. As usual, TNA takes one step forward and ten steps back.

[Azrayel]

Can anyone answer this for me, does Russo make the matches on TNA or does he make the storylines on TNA or he does both? Because whoever does those two things are terrible at making a iMPACT episode, and the past few weeks have been showing it that I don't even want to comment on there matches and segments last night.

[hobbyfan]

Can anyone answer this for me, does Russo make the matches on TNA or does he make the storylines on TNA or he does both? Because whoever does those two things are terrible at making a iMPACT episode, and the past few weeks have been showing it that I don't even want to comment on there matches and segments last night.

Right now, I think Russo does the writing and the matchmaking, the latter with the likely help of that other self-serving tool, Nash.

[Hobbes829]

Right now, I think Russo does the writing and the matchmaking, the latter with the likely help of that other self-serving tool, Nash.
self serving tool, nash? Now you just sound like a guy that believes everything he reads on the net.

[halinar]

I read the spoilers, and I'm glad I didn't watch. As usual, TNA takes one step forward and ten steps back.

I was flipping back and forth between TNA and the football game but what I saw was not pretty... well short of the Steiner interview which was pure gold.

[Condiment King]

Well, I wasn't painfully bored this week so I guess that's a good thing.
This surprises me. Admittedly, I didn't watch very much of Impact this week, but that was because I saw the card and it looked absolutely wretched. Like worst-Impact-in-a-long-time wretched. All the heel booking just killed television time. It says something when Jarrett/Foley skits end up being highlights.

Plus, in a more big picture look at things, I really hated that they gave away the first meeting of Styles and Nigel, for the TNA title no less, with no build on television. What a horrible decision.

I really enjoyed the Impact last week, and then this one seems terrible. Strange two weeks in the world of TNA.

[The Penguin]

This surprises me. Admittedly, I didn't watch very much of Impact this week, but that was because I saw the card and it looked absolutely wretched. Like worst-Impact-in-a-long-time wretched. All the heel booking just killed television time. It says something when Jarrett/Foley skits end up being highlights.Don't get me wrong, I didn't declare it to be great or entertaining from start to finish, just less boring. It also could have been that was I back in my apartment whereas the previous two weeks I was not.

[The Penguin]

As anticipation builds for Hulk Hogan's arrival in TNA, Jeff Jarrett returns tonight after being tracked down by Mick Foley last week.


http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/spike.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/tna.jpgPREVIEW FOR TONIGHT'S HUGE TNA "iMPACT!" - JEFF JARRETT RETURNS TO "iMPACT!"

Tonight, TNA Wrestling returns to SpikeTV starting at 9/8c for two hours of Total Nonstop Action as the road to the December 20 "Final Resolution" Pay-Per-View continues!

What will happen when Jeff Jarrett returns to "iMPACT!" on Thursday night? Will he speak with TNA President Dixie Carter? How will everyone in TNA Wrestling react? Tune in and find out!

Plus, what happened when Mick Foley had his face-to-face sitdown with Hulk Hogan? Did Kevin Nash come through on his promise to arrange the meeting? Find out Thursday on "iMPACT!"

All this and much more on Thursday's broadcast, including news on the huge January 4 live "iMPACT!" on SpikeTV!

[Azrayel]

This episode was slightly better than iMPACT the past couple of weeks. Also what I am intrested in is if Daniels and Wolfe vs Kurt Angle and AJ Styles next week which then leads these four to fight for Styles belt that night.

Also this 10 minute time limit crap should be gone.

[AJ1]

I only caught the two Knockouts marches last night and the Ray/Morgan match, I was tied up with other things but I will catch the replay online today at some point. You know, week in and week out I can't get over how hot Velvete Sky is, her body is just incredible and she should really think about doing Playboy if offered to her, many fans would rejoice in seeing her spread....by that I mean her photo shoot.

[Mesousa]

Also, this 10 minute time limit crap should be gone.

It kind of makes sense. Kind of.

See, they kinda want to make matches longer than possible only on PPVs.

[Wonderwall]

I only caught the two Knockouts marches last night and the Ray/Morgan match, I was tied up with other things but I will catch the replay online today at some point. You know, week in and week out I can't get over how hot Velvete Sky is, her body is just incredible and she should really think about doing Playboy if offered to her, many fans would rejoice in seeing her spread....by that I mean her photo shoot.

I like this idea. I mean she doesn't need to wear a shirt that says babe, but I'm not complaining. Especially the up shot they did...Damn;):p

I thought it was odd that Taylor and Sarita continue to lose. I get the singles losses but it's weird they'd lose so quickly even though they're champs.

[The Penguin]

While not speeding through anything, I was almost amazed at how little of this episode I actually watched. I'm not bragging or saying I'm proud of it, but it went by so fast because I was pretty distracted.

I figured there had to be a catch with Nash sending Mick to LA, but I wasn't sure. Being sent to meet Lou Ferrigno was kind of fun and Foley's revenge upon his return was good.

I should have counted how many segments Jarrett/Foley had it seemed like they just kept showing up. Not sure how I feel about all this stuff with Karen Angle being brought in at least in passing.

Nice to see Roxxi back after she kind of disappeared. I don't know that TNA really needs more women thought. They don't have enough space for the ones they have.

So I guess Jay Lethal losing all these legends matches is going to be the joke? I'm not sure what all the stipulations of a "WWE Legends" contract are, but if it would prevent them from showing up in TNA for a night, this may not be able to go much longer.

To me, the Motor City Machine Guns are one of the highlights of TNA and I hate that their gimmick has been "no one wants to put us on TV" for what feels like at least the last six months.

Jeff meets with Dixie

I'm fine with a time limit draw (as long as Harley Race or Larry Zbyszko isn't standing by to make a decision on who won 'on points'), but I saw 10 minutes is way too short for a regular sanctioned match. Regardless of whether matches go that long, if TV matches have time limit it should be 15.

Wow there were a lot of people in that tag team match at the end of the show, and then suddenly half of them weren't there. That was just weird.


You know, week in and week out I can't get over how hot Velvete Sky is, her body is just incredible and she should really think about doing Playboy if offered to her, many fans would rejoice in seeing her spread....by that I mean her photo shoot.If I were her, I wouldn't do it unless she would be guaranteed somehow to be on the actual cover and appear in it. Traci going from cover to cyber exclusive made the whole thing a big failure on TNA's part, even though it wasn't their fault.

Of course she's already so popular (here anyway) that she could take the Trish approach and 'leave them wanting more' if you will.

[EinBebop]

I'd like to interrupt the Velvet Sky love to say that the new hairstyle and ring gear that's more flattering to her figure has done wonders for Roxxi. She's gone from 'sorta cute in a weird way' to 'kinda hot'.

And now to get the thread back on track, the one by whom all others are measured...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/292/velvetsky1.jpg

[Condiment King]

Ein just made this thread pretty awesome.

I really liked Daniels and Nigel going to a draw. It protected them both and made them look like a million bucks. Though I agree with Penguin that the time limit should be at least 15 minutes.

I also hope that TNA really doesn't think like Mesousa said about the time limits of their matches. They need more wrestling. It's a wrestling show. Smackdown has a lot of wrestling matches that have good length. That doesn't mean that the PPVs are ruined, because they usually don't give away world title matches or first-time matches on Smackdown. Not always but usually. (I mean they did give away Jericho vs Taker twice for no reason.)

In fact, TNA Impact does the opposite. They have short matches AND they give away first time matches and world title matches on the program. The last two Impacts have had main events of AJ vs Nigel for the TNA title and Nigel vs Daniels. Both matches were for the first time ever as far as TNA goes. It was just annoying that they gave those away with no build, firstly, and secondly, since it was on Impact, both matches didn't go longer than 10 minutes. It's the worst of both worlds. At least on Smackdown they would have went 15.

I like Jeff Jarrett and it's nice to see him again. But I think there are still too many authority figures in TNA if Jarrett is restored to power, Foley is still around, Hogan comes in and Dixie Carter continues her on-screen role. It's just messy. I also don't understand how you can devote the last two shows to the Jeff Jarrett/Kurt Angle saga when you are trying to promote a PPV with Angle vs Nigel and AJ vs Daniels. A depressingly small portion of this show was devoted to those two programs, and it was the go-home show!

[EinBebop]

Count me in favor of tv time limits to enhance PPVs. Have you really given the match away when the fans didn't get a finish? Or have you sold the idea that they two competitors are too evenly matched to settle their dispute in TV time; that the only way to settle the feud is on PPV?

For standard matches, say 10 minutes regular or 15 for a main event. For all matches with 2+ competitors, make it 15/20. And if you actually have a TV match that you want to go longer for whatever reason, you simply announce it as a special no time limit match. Most of the time it will go unspoken; it's not necessary to talk about it in every match, but when you want you can use it to build suspense. Most of the time, it won't matter... but it's a useful tool in some cases and easily worked around when it's in the way.

And agreed on the whole authority thing in TNA. Four bosses fighting in some hazy hierarchy does not make for good tv.

[The Penguin]

I know TNA did their card rundown, but I nearly forgot there was a PPV tonight. Below are the results. Near as I can tell, there is no iMPACT! next week. TNA will make up for it the following week with a four hour iMPACT!/year in review starting at 7 ET on New Year's Eve (http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1846/84/). The new action sounds like it will be a test of an all-Knockout show.

For posterity, I have preserved all pre-event TNA.com typos below. (Did no one even look at it after it was posted?) Underlines by me and special written results by Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Resolution_(2009)).

http://www.tnawrestling.com/images/stories/news/6_box/frppv.jpg
TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH
Daniels vs champion "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles

THREE DEGREES OF PAIN
Desmond Wolfe vs. Kurt Angle
*Fall one: Angle (Pinfall)
*Fall two: Wolfe (Submission)
*Fall three: Angle (Cage)

LAST MAN STANDING MATCH
Bobby Lashley vs. Scott Steiner

CHALLENGE MATCH
Raven & Dr. Stevie vs. Mick Foley & Abyss

TNA TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH
Mtoro City Machine Guns vs. champions British Invasion

KNOCKOUTS TITLE MATCH
Tara vs. champion ODB

FEAST OR FIRED MATCH
One TNA Superstar will be fired from the company
*Nash won a TNA World Tag Team Title shot
*Joe won a TNA World Heavyweight Title shot
*Terry won a TNA X Division Title shot
*Bashir had the fired case

8 MAN ELIMINATION
Team 3D, Rhino and Jesse Neal vs, Pope, Matt Morgan, Hernandez and Suicide

UPDATE: TNA results (http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/159/84/)

[AJ1]

Despite TNA making a bigger deal about their Jan 4th edition of Impact over the past few weeks and not giving this PPV the promotion it deserved, it actually turned out really, really good and was definatly worth watching. The opening tag-team match of The Brit's versus MCMG was excellent and the Wolfe/Angle match was the best and most enjoyable match I had the oppertunity to watch all year. The main event of AJ/Daniels was excellent and almost every bit as good as Angle/Wolfe, both men really put their hearts and souls into this title match and AJ got the huge win and will go into 2010 as the TNA World Champion, what an experience! Even though I was not expecting much out of the Lashley/Stiener match I did feel it was actually pretty good, Lashley got the win but the Impact Zone geeked out for Stiener, they really love that guy, it's hard not to when he says and does some hilarious stuff.

[Blueprint]

Ok well most of us know that WWE is script.I heard in TNA that they just give you the mike and let you say what you gotta say,Well last night I type in is TNA script on youtube and it showed me a list of videos on the subject.I came across this video and it shows...just watch it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ4coMbfL_A

[Wonderwall]

The infamous Tenay and West reading script botch. This always shows how either little time, money or effort is put into the production side of TNA. Why is the camera switching away not only from the action but towards the commentators? And an even bigger question is how come know one noticed this gaff and fixed it seeing as Impact is taped?!

[Blueprint]

The infamous Tenay and West reading script botch. This always shows how either little time, money or effort is put into the production side of TNA. Why is the camera switching away not only from the action but towards the commentators? And an even bigger question is how come know one noticed this gaff and fixed it seeing as Impact is taped?!


Come again.

[Wonderwall]

I'm afraid you're going to have to elaborate on what part you didn't understand of the post?

[Blueprint]

I'm afraid you're going to have to elaborate on what part you didn't understand of the post?

Oh my bad I get it know.

[The Penguin]

Happy New Year, everyone! To close out 2009, Total Nonstop Action Wrestling presents four hours of programming with both new action featuring the Knockouts and the fan voted top PPV matches of the year.


http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/spike.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/tna.jpgPREVIEW FOR THE 4-HOUR NEW YEARS KNOCKOUT EVE "iMPACT!" ON SPIKE TV (7PM START TIME)

On New Years Eve (Thursday, December 31), TNA Wrestling counts down to 2010 with four hours of Total Nonstop Action on SpikeTV! The huge night will feature the TNA Knockouts in action in a one-night tournament to determined the #1 Contender for the Knockouts Championship. Plus, TNA Knockout Tag Team Champions Taylor Wilde and Sarita will be in action

Also on the special 4-hour event, TNA will re-broadcast the top Pay-Per-View matches of 2009, as voted by the fans on TNAwrestling.com. And - more big news on the huge live Monday Night "iMPACT!" on January 4. All this and much more on the New Years Eve broadcast of "iMPACT!" on SpikeTV (special start time of 7pm)

[Condiment King]

Everyone NEEDS to watch the best of 2009 special at 9. I think they already said that the three matches are going to be Sting vs AJ Styles, Kurt Angle vs Nigel McGuinness and AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe vs Christopher Daniels. And if that's the case, it's gonna be awesome.

[Mr.HeathBell]

Styles vs Joe vs Daniels is airing right now. It is a great match and a match of the year candidate. Check it out if you can.

[Blueprint]

I think that the TNA knockouts could have their own show.

Also both Kip James and Cody Deaner(thank god)have been removed from the roster.

[Wonderwall]

I like the KOs and I think they had a decent night. That being said I think them having their own show probably would never work for a variety of reasons. Still having a week once in awhile dedicated to them wouldn't be too bad.

[krazymed]

What was the point of the tournament, other than filler? I mean, TNA asked me to spend four hours of my New Year's Eve so that they could set up a match that I had already seen twice in December. Just use the "rematch clause" instead of wasting my time like that.

[Azrayel]

What was Velvet Sky wearing? I didn't like it because it didn't seem revealing enough for me. Which brings to my next thing why was Alissa Flash not in this tourney? Because instead we got Traci Brooks that can't wrestle well :sad: (But atleast she had good playboy pics ;)) I liked the show they had on thursday and seeing Angle vs Wolfe, Sting vs Styles, and Daniels vs Styles vs Joe's ppv matches made it even better.

By the way did anyone see Roxxi's foot get messed up towards the end of her match with Hamada it looked gross.

[Wonderwall]

Yea I liked that they showed the PPV matches. Really good stuff. What I also liked was unlike last year or 2008 I guess, when they did something similar, they didn't have this terrible, wrestler commentary that would ruin the flow of the match. Yea Roxxi broke her ankle according to Dixies twitter. I missed that but it's too bad for Rox as she was getting pushed.

[The Penguin]

I was busy with family New Year's Eve and wow it took me like three days to watch this. Good or not, four hours for one program is just asking too much of the viewer. The Knockout tournament was better than I expected when cut with the highlight videos and PPV matches. However, I would watch a regular program dedicated entirely to Knockouts a grand total of one time. TNA does it well, but no one does women's wrestling well enough to do it 52 hours a year.

I was very impressed with all three of the pay-per-view matches and since I believe it is easy to find things to pick on in every episode of iMPACT! I wanted to give these PPV matches my full attention. All three were great to watch and while it does not prompt me to order a future PPV or the DVD, I was impressed.

One thing I will say though is that TNA needs to do something to make their events look special. A channel flipper would have thought they were just seeing a random iMPACT! episode that just happened to have good match on. Even the evnets outside the iMPACT! Zone looked exactly the same. They don't need WWE's elaborate stages if Dixie's daddy won't put up enough money for that, a simple event logo in the middle of the canvas like ECW and WCW used to do would be perfect.