Startrekman's Artwork

[Startrekman700]

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/UFCFighting.jpg


The UFC fighting episode. I like it so much i drew a match. This time is Bully Koopa Vs. Nelson Muntz. Looks like Muntz is getting the best of Bully.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/ToonBrawl.jpg


The Animaniacs, Billy Koopa and Lisa Simpson are fighting some shapeshifters in a restaurant. Look at Wakko just splatter the shapeshifter in the seat.



http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/ChainsawCuttingTreehouse.jpg


Some person or thing is trying to kill them by cutting the treehouse with a chainsaw.

[Startrekman700]

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/LisaSimpsonBeepsAtFatMan.jpg


Lisa beeps at a "Morbidly-Obese" man who stands there and looks at her for some reason unknown.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/TailsFlyoverSonic.jpg

Tails fly over Sonic who is running and carrying Sally.

[Mist]

I like the angle you chose in the Sonic pictyure, however, the background needs work. Also Sonic is too small in that picture.

The lighting is perfect in the morbidly obese man picture.

[Startrekman700]

I like the angle you chose in the Sonic pictyure, however, the background needs work. Also Sonic is too small in that picture.

The lighting is perfect in the morbidly obese man picture.


Actually, Tails is high up in the air flying over him. It's a looking down image.

I try to study night-time pictures to get the good if not perfect picture. Thanks for the comment.

[Startrekman700]

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/RomanticOutside.jpg


Our heroes check on the "Romantic Couple" outside.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/GoingToHelpOogtarAndMeltar.jpg


Billy, Niyax and Bart coming to help Oogtar and Meltar who are being attacked by shapeshifters.

[Startrekman700]

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/PedroSariataScared.jpg


SURPRISE!! A giant bug ruins the date of Pedro and Sariata.

[Mist]

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/RomanticOutside.jpg


Our heroes check on the "Romantic Couple" outside.


Lisa dating one of the Koopa Kids? Wow. That's.. odd.

You need to make the text bigger so the viewer can read it.

[Startrekman700]

The text goes like this...

Billy: Well, Well, if it isn't the "Romantic Couple"

Pedro: Yeah

[Good Ol' Batmanuel!]

The Morbidly Obese Man one made me laugh. So bizarre! (that's a good thing! ;))

[Startrekman700]

The "morbidly-obese" probably is staring at them wondering what are they. I mean you have a white...I mean yellow starfish haired girl, a anthropromorphic turtle, a white boy and a blue alien riding in a sports car. I mean wouldn't you be curious?

[Startrekman700]

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/PlanningOurStrategy.jpg

Billy, Bart and Cheatsy is using a table computer to plan a tackback of their neighborhood from mysterious forces. The computer is touch screen interface controlled. Think of the pool table in Engineering from Star Trek: The Next Generation.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/BatterUp.jpg


Bored, our heroes decide to drive around town. Bart is driving, Billy is winding up. Billy is going to attack an old nemesis, namely, Sideshow Bob. Lisa tells him to not hurt him.

[Startrekman700]

Haven't updated in a while so I decided to post more artwork..



http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/CyborgDinosaur.jpg


Sideshow Bob sics a Cyborg(Half-Beast, Half-Machine) T-Rex onto the Simpson's Kids who are driving a smart car.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/WatchingtheGirls.jpg


Bart, Milhouse and Billy are up in a tree with binoculars watching a girl's slumber party attended by Lisa, Allison and two college aged girls.






http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/Proposal.jpg


After 10 years of going steady, after going through trials(Fighting Robotnik) and tribulations(Finding and getting back their parents) Sonic and Sally are tying the knot. They propose on a moonlit hill.



http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/MeetPedrosNewFriend.jpg

Meet Pedro's New Friend, A Sentient Robot he ordered from the Internet. Him and his girlfriend Sariata are looking at it. The robot responds to them in spanish.




http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/MeltarAttacked.jpg


Oogtar's little sister Meltar is driving down some road alone when she is attacked by a mysterious muscle car.

[Glitcher]

By the moons of Mongo, that's absolutely terrible! At first I thought this was just childish drawings from a seven-year old, but I was astounded to see your profile lists you as thirty. I mean, this reminds me of what my sister used to draw in grade school. There's no sense of proportion, structure, colour harmony or just plain quality. You have a severe anti-aliasing problem that leaves ugly white borders around your line art. The colouring is as flat as possible. There are a maximum of two (count 'em!) tones for any given surface. Even something as simple as the speech bubbles are totally uninspired, featuring no outline, comic font and text that's often too small to read. I also see plenty of staples of a bad artist, such as jarring pattern overlays, gratuitous use of the Lens Flare and Lighting filters, and vacuous backgrounds. You paint skies hilariously bad; if it's not an empty blue or black surface, there are tiny white pixels that look more like dust than stars. Plus, why are there only stars on half of the image with the Lens Flare? Why can't we see the road the cars are driving on? Why does a brick wall look like it's undulating like paper? Why do some speech bubbles feature fuzzy areas? What the hell is a "sluber party"? Why is the moon squashed in the giant insect picture? Why is there a motion blur on only half the T-Rex? And why does everyone look like flippin' roadkill?

For an adult, this is shameful. If you were a kid, I'd tell you to seek help from your art teacher fast, but I don't think that option is available to you any more. I'm afraid there's simply too much wrong here to salvage.

[Startrekman700]

skimming through this hilariously long and overtyped way of you saying "You can't draw". Let's disassemble this verbal trype.


By the moons of Mongo, that's absolutely terrible! At first I thought this was just childish drawings from a seven-year old, but I was astounded to see your profile lists you as thirty. I mean, this reminds me of what my sister used to draw in grade school. There's no sense of proportion, structure, colour harmony or just plain quality. You have a severe anti-aliasing problem that leaves ugly white borders around your line art.

I have to say thanks for pointing out the aliasing problem. I will endavor to improve it. Let me ask you. Did you're sister have a sense of structure, things relating to others or sense of distance or spacial orientation? Go back and look at them again.


Even something as simple as the speech bubbles are totally uninspired, featuring no outline, comic font and text that's often too small to read. I also see plenty of staples of a bad artist, such as jarring pattern overlays, gratuitous use of the Lens Flare and Lighting filters, and vacuous backgrounds. You paint skies hilariously bad; if it's not an empty blue or black surface, there are tiny white pixels that look more like dust than stars.

How is using comic bubbles uninspiring. It's the STANDARD and has been for 100 years. Not everything is manga. Oh and let me explain about the pattern overlays. The truck is designed that way. It's made of light sheetrock. As for the skies, go out into the real world and look at the sky. Tell me that stars are overshiny and evenly placed.


Plus, why are there only stars on half of the image with the Lens Flare? Why can't we see the road the cars are driving on?

First. because stars don't evenly shine like that, they have various brightness patterns. Second, this takes place in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE where there IS NO street-lights, no signs, no anything. It is only illuminated by the headlights. If you can go to a road in the middle of some sprawled out suburb or country.

Here a visual aid to illustrate...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/3113023457_2f0eda417e.jpg


can you see the road ahead of the headlamps? Can you see the trees beyond the headlights?



Why does a brick wall look like it's undulating like paper? Why do some speech bubbles feature fuzzy areas? What the hell is a "sluber party"? Why is the moon squashed in the giant insect picture? Why is there a motion blur on only half the T-Rex? And why does everyone look like flippin' roadkill?

Brick walls look like that in real life. I mean go and look at brick walls and you will see undulating and gritty patterns from years of wear and tear. Real life does not look like an anime book. "Sluber party" is my mistake which I will correct. As for the T-Rex, it's because ITS DROPPING onto the ground and it's happening at a moment. They don't, it's the style of the Simpsons. Not ever person in comic or cartoon-dom has to look like some glossy, oversexed, dolled up anime character.


For an adult, this is shameful. If you were a kid, I'd tell you to seek help from your art teacher fast, but I don't think that option is available to you any more. I'm afraid there's simply too much wrong here to salvage.

I would suggest go look at the Simpsons. You could say that some of it looks like a child's drawing. The Simpsons are famous and partly because of it. It's not the style of the drawing that makes something good. It's the characters, the story and the background.

I would also suggest you look around in real life. It as I said before, does not look like some glossy, manufactured anime art. It has grit, uneveness and undulation.

[Glitcher]

I've got to say, I'm stunned by your repeated assumption that I'm some sort of anime artist. Where did you get that impression from? As far as I remember, I've made a few (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=219568) posts (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=226390) here (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=261802) in (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=201554) different (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=210413) styles (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=211509). Still, if you're going to dissect my post, I might as well return the favour...


Let me ask you. Did you're sister have a sense of structure, things relating to others or sense of distance or spacial orientation?

Uh... no. That's exactly my point.



How is using comic bubbles uninspiring. It's the STANDARD and has been for 100 years. Not everything is manga.

As far as I remember, all speech bubbles have an outline. They're not just amorphous white blobs. You also need a proper comic font (http://www.blambot.com/fonts_dialogue.shtml). Letteromatic is a personal favourite of mine.


Brick walls look like that in real life. I mean go and look at brick walls and you will see undulating and gritty patterns from years of wear and tear. As for the skies, go out into the real world and look at the sky. Tell me that stars are overshiny and evenly placed.

Take another look yourself. See the difference? Also, although the surface texture of a bricks may be uneven, the wall is essentially straight:

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/51/tempgf.jpg


Second, this takes place in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE where there IS NO street-lights, no signs, no anything. It is only illuminated by the headlights. If you can go to a road in the middle of some sprawled out suburb or country.

Here a visual aid to illustrate... can you see the road ahead of the headlamps? Can you see the trees beyond the headlights?

I think you just proved yourself wrong there. I can see the road perfectly in the light of the headlights, but in your drawing the yellow divider is only barely visible! Why aren't the headlights illuminating their surroundings? Moreover, your placement of the stars in this pic is illogical. The glow of the moon should be shining out any stars near it (for the same reason you can't see stars during the day). It would make more sense to have the stars more visible away from the moon.


As for the T-Rex, it's because ITS DROPPING onto the ground and it's happening at a moment. They don't, it's the style of the Simpsons. Not ever person in comic or cartoon-dom has to look like some glossy, oversexed, dolled up anime character.

Okay seriously, enough with the anime references. It would be like me calling you a Pokemon artist. And I know the T-Rex is dropping, what I mean is why is the motion blur only the back half? Is the front frozen in time?


I would suggest go look at the Simpsons. You could say that some of it looks like a child's drawing. The Simpsons are famous and partly because of it. It's not the style of the drawing that makes something good. It's the characters, the story and the background.

What. The. Hell. If you're trying justify the simplicity of your style with a story, I don't see that either. This isn't a comic, they're individual pictures. What are the Koopas doing in Springfield? What have Sonic and co. got to do with this? Why are the Animaniacs there? What's the point of Pedro and those two kids? (I get the feeling there's no real answer here.)

[Startrekman700]

Take another look yourself. See the difference? Also, although the surface texture of a bricks may be uneven, the wall is essentially straight:

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/51/tempgf.jpg



It is straight, the surface is uneven. This is an abandoned building. Same logic applies to the bricks. Oh and the sky. That's an evening sky. It's not totally dark yet.


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/503663928_b6d3627bda.jpg


Look above the woman. Wall straight but surface uneven.




I think you just proved yourself wrong there. I can see the road perfectly in the light of the headlights, but in your drawing the yellow divider is only barely visible! Why aren't the headlights illuminating their surroundings? Moreover, your placement of the stars in this pic is illogical. The glow of the moon should be shining out any stars near it (for the same reason you can't see stars during the day). It would make more sense to have the stars more visible away from the moon.



Which model of headlights do you use, what is the luminosity. In that particular pic, the headlights are particularly low. It's only illuminating what is below it. Most cars lights will not illuminate anything around it. This is unless you have those expensive and bright as hell headlights.



What. The. Hell. If you're trying justify the simplicity of your style with a story, I don't see that either. This isn't a comic, they're individual pictures. What are the Koopas doing in Springfield? What have Sonic and co. got to do with this? Why are the Animaniacs there? What's the point of Pedro and those two kids? (I get the feeling there's no real answer here.)

Why the hell should i justify this. It's my damn imagination. I can create the hell I please and for whatever I wish. This is the same as asking why in many debates would Star Trek be in the Star Wars Universe. It's because someone wishes. If someone want Star Trek to be in the Star Wars universe, then so be it. This is nothing real serious, it's a hobby. Maybe if you found one, you wouldn't be so bitter.

[Startrekman700]

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/DHTArtist/MargeSimpsonAbductedByAliens.jpg


Marge Simpson has been abducted by aliens. They are doing scans on her for some unknown purpose.

[Glitcher]

It is straight, the surface is uneven. This is an abandoned building. Same logic applies to the bricks. Oh and the sky. That's an evening sky. It's not totally dark yet.

Look above the woman. Wall straight but surface uneven.

Now you're just making excuses. Intact walls like the one the woman is standing on are perfectly straight. But if you're telling me it's supposed to be severely deteriorated, why is the outline of the building uneven too? Even abandonned buildings have straight lines (see below). No building is so damaged as to have windows slanted like that. Couldn't you have used a ruler to draw?

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/07.jpg

You also seem to have a conflict of style. You claim to represent realism by displaying a minimal amount of stars, yet you draw in the thoroughly unrealistic style of the Simpsons, and that show had more vivid night skies than yours. Look at the image underneath. See the atmospheric presence of blue and purple, or the gradient in lighting from the top to the bottom of the sky, or how the moon and clouds complement the composition. It is not just a single flat colour peppered with white pixels.

http://reporter.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/03/thohxix_tvg_fullpg_v2bf_1.jpg



Which model of headlights do you use, what is the luminosity. In that particular pic, the headlights are particularly low. It's only illuminating what is below it.

Uh... no it's not. That's what I've been trying to tell you. The road is so poorly lit, I didn't even notice it was there in the first place. I see the glare from the headlights, but the beams don't appear to connect with the roadway. I'm guessing that you initially had this image totally dark and counted on the Lens Flare to illuminate it. It doesn't work that way. The Lens Flare is a glare effect, not a lighting tool. You need to paint the headlight beams and ambient lighting yourself. Then you can add a Lens Flare if you think it will enhance the image.


Why the hell should i justify this. It's my damn imagination. I can create the hell I please and for whatever I wish. This is the same as asking why in many debates would Star Trek be in the Star Wars Universe. It's because someone wishes. If someone want Star Trek to be in the Star Wars universe, then so be it. This is nothing real serious, it's a hobby. Maybe if you found one, you wouldn't be so bitter.

Yeaaaaaaah... All those links to my artwork I posted earlier. That certainly doesn't count as a hobby. And I understand that crossovers are commonplace among fan artists, but you're misguided if you think insertions of random characters constitutes a story. I have a Gatchaman/Thundercats crossover comic sitting on my bookshelf, and that story explains how the characters met, establishes their personalities, explains their goals, etc. etc. I don't see any of that in your pics, so I repeat my questions: What are the Koopas doing in Springfield? What have Sonic and co. got to do with this? Why are the Animaniacs there? What's the point of Pedro and those two kids? What is everyone trying to do?

PS. It seems from your last image that you still haven't figured out how to eliminate those white borders around your lines. You need to copy the line art to a new layer in Photoshop and set the blending mode to Multiply, then colour on a blank layer underneath. Sorted.

[Startrekman700]

Now you're just making excuses. Intact walls like the one the woman is standing on are perfectly straight. But if you're telling me it's supposed to be severely deteriorated, why is the outline of the building uneven too? Even abandonned buildings have straight lines (see below). No building is so damaged as to have windows slanted like that. Couldn't you have used a ruler to draw?

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/07.jpg

Apples and Oranges dude! What the frak are you trying to prove. That is a concrete building. It is reinforced with steel beams. What we were trying to prove is whether brick walls can be straight yet have a surface uneven. That is NOT made of brick.


You also seem to have a conflict of style. You claim to represent realism by displaying a minimal amount of stars, yet you draw in the thoroughly unrealistic style of the Simpsons, and that show had more vivid night skies than yours. Look at the image underneath. See the atmospheric presence of blue and purple, or the gradient in lighting from the top to the bottom of the sky, or how the moon and clouds complement the composition. It is not just a single flat colour peppered with white pixels.

http://reporter.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/03/thohxix_tvg_fullpg_v2bf_1.jpg ;



Show me the gradient. Because the artist here used brushes to color the bottom of the sky and not the gradient effect. I have used gradient effects but I alternate between gradient and painting the sky.




Yeaaaaaaah... All those links to my artwork I posted earlier. That certainly doesn't count as a hobby. And I understand that crossovers are commonplace among fan artists, but you're misguided if you think insertions of random characters constitutes a story. I have a Gatchaman/Thundercats crossover comic sitting on my bookshelf, and that story explains how the characters met, establishes their personalities, explains their goals, etc. etc. I don't see any of that in your pics, so I repeat my questions: What are the Koopas doing in Springfield? What have Sonic and co. got to do with this? Why are the Animaniacs there? What's the point of Pedro and those two kids? What is everyone trying to do?


Why the frak do I have to justify why they are there? They are there because I want them to be. Why do people make Stargate/Star Trek crossovers despite the fact they are vastly different universes. Why make a Star Wars/Gundam crossover? Whats the story? What's the connection? Whats the goals? Why do it? Because it might be interesting. There doesn't need to be a comprehensive story. People can have crossovers if they please.

[Glitcher]

Apples and Oranges dude! What the frak are you trying to prove. That is a concrete building. It is reinforced with steel beams. What we were trying to prove is whether brick walls can be straight yet have a surface uneven. That is NOT made of brick.

Picky, picky. Here's a picture of a straight brick building. Happy now?

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1975/tempw.jpg



Show me the gradient. Because the artist here used brushes to color the bottom of the sky and not the gradient effect. I have used gradient effects but I alternate between gradient and painting the sky.

*sigh* Fine. I'll point out the gradient for you. As you can see, the Simpsons image doesn't rely on the glow from the moon or some Photoshop filter to provide a gradient. And whether you use the Gradient tool or Brush tool makes little difference. My point is that there's a stark variation in colour in the sky.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3069/tempbw.jpg



It's not the style of the drawing that makes something good. It's the characters, the story and the background.


There doesn't need to be a comprehensive story. People can have crossovers if they please.

Hypocrite.

[Startrekman700]

You show a building that hasn't been severly deteriorated or hasn't had the foundation below it sink to such a degree that parts of the wall are sinking but keeping the concrete intact but cracking. The wall in my pic has the foundation sinking so badly that the top concrete is sinking.

oh and I have solved that anti-aliasing problem. I now use pencil instead od a brush for the lineart.

[Startrekman700]

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/009/e/b/Hellllloooo__Alien_Girl_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg


Hello, Alien Girl... Wakko and Yakko greet Niyax with their manner of greeting. Niyax is wearing a coat and pants with glowing neon strands.


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/008/7/d/Dogfight_in_the_snowy_skies_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg

Pedro and Sariata flying some plane is being shot at by robot drones in a blinding snowstorm.


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/006/c/8/Lisa_Vs__Giant_Rat_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg

Lisa in an exosuit fighting a giant rat ala Aliens and Avatar

and while we are on Avatar....

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/003/4/6/Sully__Explain_yourself_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg


yeah Jake Sully, you sure were doing an a..hem...exchange with Neytiri. The other characters from left to right.....Quatrich, Augustine, Trudy and Mo'at.

this drawing is based on what is called a "base" which is essentially a blank figure which is painted to represent a character.

this base is from....
http://plushiegirl.deviantart.com/art/omg-base-98301546 (note: contains unclothed but not obscene blank characters)



All this is from my Deviantart site...the link is in my sig.

[Startrekman700]

By the moons of Mongo, that's absolutely terrible! At first I thought this was just childish drawings from a seven-year old, but I was astounded to see your profile lists you as thirty. I mean, this reminds me of what my sister used to draw in grade school. There's no sense of proportion, structure, colour harmony or just plain quality. You have a severe anti-aliasing problem that leaves ugly white borders around your line art. The colouring is as flat as possible. There are a maximum of two (count 'em!) tones for any given surface. Even something as simple as the speech bubbles are totally uninspired, featuring no outline, comic font and text that's often too small to read. I also see plenty of staples of a bad artist, such as jarring pattern overlays, gratuitous use of the Lens Flare and Lighting filters, and vacuous backgrounds. You paint skies hilariously bad; if it's not an empty blue or black surface, there are tiny white pixels that look more like dust than stars. Plus, why are there only stars on half of the image with the Lens Flare? Why can't we see the road the cars are driving on? Why does a brick wall look like it's undulating like paper? Why do some speech bubbles feature fuzzy areas? What the hell is a "sluber party"? Why is the moon squashed in the giant insect picture? Why is there a motion blur on only half the T-Rex? And why does everyone look like flippin' roadkill?

For an adult, this is shameful. If you were a kid, I'd tell you to seek help from your art teacher fast, but I don't think that option is available to you any more. I'm afraid there's simply too much wrong here to salvage.


Yo glitcher. I'd like to thank you, for setting me straight on my mistakes. I have corrected the oversights you have observed. Thoses were bad ones and not my best. Thank you a lots for giving me a kick in the behind. I am now currently in the process of correcting the flaws you mentioned.

[Glitcher]

After arguing intensely, now you're thanking me? Um... you're welcome. :p I guess I should apologize too for being so rude earlier. I often get carried away with my criticism. At least you're making efforts to improve. The grey stroke around the line art is pretty much gone, although for some reason it's still visible on the top half of Niyax, but not the bottom. What's up with that? The speech bubble is better defined, but still lacks an outline, and you shouldn't paint hair and cloth with a soft brush when the characters have hard outlines. It just makes it look like there are certain parts of their bodies that are out of focus. Speaking of lines, why is the line art in the last picture so pixelated? It wasn't like that in any of your earlier pics.

[Startrekman700]

Speaking of lines, why is the line art in the last picture so pixelated? It wasn't like that in any of your earlier pics.

that last one is a picture painted over top of a template. The template is called a "Doll" and is used in DeviantArt by artists to paint their own characters on top.

here is an example of one.

http://fav.me/d1mixyi

[Startrekman700]

After arguing intensely, now you're thanking me? Um... you're welcome. :p The grey stroke around the line art is pretty much gone, although for some reason it's still visible on the top half of Niyax, but not the bottom..

for the top I again used a brush. For the bottom I used a pencil. It was stuupid of me.

[Glitcher]

for the top I again used a brush. For the bottom I used a pencil. It was stuupid of me.


That's even worse! The Pencil is not an anti-aliased tool, which explains why the lines at the bottom of Niyax look pixelated instead of messy. It's just substituting one problem for another. I told you before, you need to set your line art layer's blending mode to "Multiply" to avoid grey strokes appearing around your outlines. But wait, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Just how many layers do you use in the first place? Do you even know what they are? Judging by the way the cyan parts on Niyax spill over the lines, I'm guessing you paint everthing on a single layer. That's a big no-no in Photoshop. I recommend you go on YouTube and look for tutorials on how to draw and colour in Photoshop with layers before you proceed.

[Startrekman700]

That's even worse! The Pencil is not an anti-aliased tool, which explains why the lines at the bottom of Niyax look pixelated instead of messy. It's just substituting one problem for another. I told you before, you need to set your line art layer's blending mode to "Multiply" to avoid grey strokes appearing around your outlines. But wait, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Just how many layers do you use in the first place? Do you even know what they are? Judging by the way the cyan parts on Niyax spill over the lines, I'm guessing you paint everthing on a single layer. That's a big no-no in Photoshop. I recommend you go on YouTube and look for tutorials on how to draw and colour in Photoshop with layers before you proceed.

It depends on what I am drawing. I on average use five layers.

The background which I use for lineart
One for base color
One for shadows
one for highlights
one for lighting.

other's when needed.

[Startrekman700]

That's even worse! The Pencil is not an anti-aliased tool, which explains why the lines at the bottom of Niyax look pixelated instead of messy.

What if I set my pencil on multiply

[Glitcher]

What if I set my pencil on multiply

It wouldn't make any difference. The blending mode has nothing to do with anti-aliasing.


It depends on what I am drawing. I on average use five layers.

The background which I use for lineart
One for base color
One for shadows
one for highlights
one for lighting.

other's when needed.

See, there's your problem right there. Your line art is on the Background layer, which means it's at the bottom of the layer stack when it should be on top! Convert your Background layer to a regular layer by double-clicking on its name (and calling it "Layer 1" for example), drag it to the top of the layer stack and change the blending mode to Multiply. Then you can paint with the Brush to your heart's content without worrying about grey strokes appearing. Sorted.

[Startrekman700]

I can do that. It's just common wisdom to have the lineart at the bottom so if you screw up. You can delete the layer.

Actually when i use pencil set at about 10 to 20 px. The grey lines don't appear.

[Glitcher]

Dude, it doesn't matter if you set your Pencil size to 1 or 100 pixels. It's not an anti-aliased tool! Any lines you draw with it will have pixelated edges. And what exactly is stopping you from deleting your line art if it's at the top of the layer stack?

[Startrekman700]

the fact that i am using Photoshop Elements 6.0 and it doesn't support the "put the background to the top.

[Glitcher]

You're contradicting yourself. When I said you should drag your line art to the top of the layer stack, you replied "I can do that." Now you're telling me "Photoshop Elements 6.0 doesn't support the 'put the background to the top.'" In any case, it would be best if you could find a way to procure Photoshop or, failing that, download Gimp.

[Startrekman700]

clarify: I should have said, "I will try that".

and it's kind of hard to "Procure" a new photoshop considering I am figuring out how to pay off my college debt again.

[Shawn Hopkins]

I've got to say, I'm stunned by your repeated assumption that I'm some sort of anime artist. Where did you get that impression from? As far as I remember, I've made a few (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=219568) posts (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=226390) here (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=261802) in (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=201554) different (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=210413) styles (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=211509). Still, if you're going to dissect my post, I might as well return the favour...



The funny thing is, even though your stuff is much better drawn than Startrekman's, it somehow manages to be even creepier. And that's creepier than Lisa Simpson getting it on with one of the Koopa kids, so it's no mean feat.

[Glitcher]

Creepy in what way?

[Radical Raven]

Creepy in what way?

It's creepy that someone who could draw so well would be a Lola Bunny fan.:D

That's my take on it...

[Shawn Hopkins]

Creepy in what way?

If you can't see it, I don't know that I can explain it to you. But one features some character from Pokemon with glistening "stuff" that doesn't look like water on her body. One features unconscious Lola Bunny with electrodes in her head and a rapey disembodied arm coming up behind her. And one features Tiny Toons watching some kid sleep. The well-rendered, subtle squicky elements are somehow more disturbing than Startrekman's crude straightforward fetishistic insanity. You're very talented, but your stuff is weird.

[Startrekman700]

Two Romantic Pics

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/001/1/4/Moonlight_Make_Out_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg


One of my most popular deviations. Lisa Simpson and Lemmy Koopa have a romantic interlute in the moon light.

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/017/2/a/Marriage_advice_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg


Sonic and Sally being engaged, gets advice from people who know how marriage works...The Simpsons. Homer says something about cake...mmm... cake.

[Glitcher]

And one features Tiny Toons watching some kid sleep. The well-rendered, subtle squicky elements are somehow more disturbing than Startrekman's crude straightforward fetishistic insanity.

Ha ha! That's a very pertinent observation. Yeah, I can imagine that a well-drawn piece with sexual innuendo would be more unsettling than a five year-old's scribble of a penis. Don't imagine that I did this on purpose though; either that's my subconscious drawing it or it's your subconscious perceiving it. Oh, and that 'kid' in the Tiny Toons pic is me! :p

I may reuse the term "crude, straightforward, fetishistic insanity" to describe Startrekman's art if you don't mind. He said he would endeavour to improve the flaws in his art, but the speech bubbles still look no better than before. Where's the outline, STM? I've told you about this already. You still don't have a proper comic font, the links between bubbles are blurry, the text is not centralized, the lack of space between the bubbles and words gives it a cramped appearence, and the broken english hurts my eyes. "Yourshas lasted so long"? "The cake ske cooks"? "We send slovve poems over the main at the plant"? Did you even read what you wrote before uploading? Oh, and Sonic's arms are the wrong colour.

The picture above is no better. Backlit scenes are atmospheric, but there's more to a beautiful silhouette than just black and white. The characters are so poorly defined that I would never have guessed that was a Koopa unless you told me. And yet again the moon is not spherical! Is it really that hard to draw a perfect circle? I know I'm regressing back into my grumpy critic mood, but such a lack of progress makes my blood boil.

[Startrekman700]

The picture above is no better. Backlit scenes are atmospheric, but there's more to a beautiful silhouette than just black and white. The characters are so poorly defined that I would never have guessed that was a Koopa unless you told me. And yet again the moon is not spherical! Is it really that hard to draw a perfect circle? I know I'm regressing back into my grumpy critic mood, but such a lack of progress makes my blood boil.

Everyone says the moon in that pic looks lik and egg. I don't see how. I did use a circle tool and planted it straight into there.

As for the comic text. Could you please direct me to a site which has some comic bubbles with outlines and some comic font for photoshop elements. I am using the defaults in there.

And as for poorly defined. I would direct you to the comic at the bottom which inspired this one in the first place. You will see that the author did the same thing as I did. Used a shillouette which only outlined the characters shapes and not their features. This is used to create a romantic mood.

[Startrekman700]

I also create comics.


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/030/0/e/New_Comic__Kyle_and_Niyax_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg

Kyle and Niyax go to some new alien restaurant in Northwest DC and get caught by the Dominion.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/031/6/5/New_Comic__Kyle_and_Niyax_2_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg

The reason they were caught is because Weyoun who stands in the shadows thinks they are federation spies. They are let go(Well they are too young to be spies.)



(if your noticing, yes in the first comic, there is a spelling mistake. It isn't me, it is my text system in photoshop. I will admit it. When i find a better comic bubbling and text system, I will use it. I am trying to improve my comic skill)

[Glitcher]

Everyone says the moon in that pic looks lik and egg. I don't see how. I did use a circle tool and planted it straight into there.

As for the comic text. Could you please direct me to a site which has some comic bubbles with outlines and some comic font for photoshop elements. I am using the defaults in there.

Hold the SHIFT key when drawing a circle to keep it perfectly proportioned. It also helps to hold the ALT key so that the circle expands from where you clicked.

You can download a variety of comic fonts from Blambot.com (http://www.blambot.com/fonts.shtml). Download the font you like and move it to C:/Windows/Fonts to install. I like to use Letteromatic for dialogue, but that's just me. As for comic bubbles, you don't need to download those. As long as your bubbles are on a separate layer, just go to Edit=>Stroke to add a stroke to all visible pixels. BTW, never type white on yellow. I can barely read what's on the first panel.



And as for poorly defined. I would direct you to the comic at the bottom which inspired this one in the first place. You will see that the author did the same thing as I did.

What comic? I think you forgot to post a link.

[Startrekman700]

What comic? I think you forgot to post a link.

http://dhtscifiartist.deviantart.com/art/Moonlight-Make-Out-148777067

look at the small comic below.

[Startrekman700]

Backseat Flying

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/042/0/5/Don__t_be_a_backseat_flyer__by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg


and just in time for Valentine.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/042/2/b/Pedro_and_Sariata__Valentine_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg

[Glitcher]

http://dhtscifiartist.deviantart.com/art/Moonlight-Make-Out-148777067 (http://dhtscifiartist.deviantart.com/art/Moonlight-Make-Out-148777067)

look at the small comic below.

Er... you shouldn't use a bad example as reference for your art, STM. That silhouette is no better than yours. :shrug:

I see you have a proper comic font this time, which is good. But it's not anti-aliased, which is bad. When you have the Type tool selected, you should look at the toolbar above the image and switch the anti-aliasing method from None to Sharp. That will clean up your text. To the right of that, change the text alignment from left to center. You should also increase the horizontal spacing between letters; the words look squashed as they are. To do that, click the rightmost icon in the Type toolbar to bring up the Character panel. Look for the "AV" icon with a two-way horizontal arrow underneath and change the setting to around 50 points. If you don't see any immediate changes when you select these options, make sure your text is highlighted first. I can't be sure all of this is available in Photoshop Elements, which is why I said you should download Photoshop CS4.

But that's just the technical side. You need to learn how to space your words aesthetically. For starters, your text is still much too close to the edges of the bubbles - even touching them at some points. Leave some room so that the dialogue don't look cramped. Also, you need to paragraph your text so that it matches the spherical shape of the bubbles. For example, your first speech bubble reads:

Now Niyax,
watch your
altimer. Keep
your
thrust
vector.


The correct spacing should be:


Now
Niyax, watch
your altimer. Keep
your thrust
vector.



BTW, are you still using the Pencil to draw lines? They look awfully pixelated.

[Startrekman700]

Thanks for the very excellent tips. Yes I am using pencil, you know very well what would happen if I use brush. The pencil in photoshop elements does not have anti-alias. I could increase the size or use another program like Corel to draw penciled lines, since it has anti-alias.

[Startrekman700]

oh yeah Glitcher, to see that small comic below Moonlight Make-Out in full-screen. You have to click on it.

[Startrekman700]

I know it's a little late but these were done for valentine's day

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/046/9/3/Valentine__s_Day_Dancing_Close_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg

A nice slow dance between alien, koopa and human teenagers.



and after all that...alien sleep on top of human...
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/051/9/0/Tired____by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg

[Startrekman700]

Something I finished today...The Koopas and the Simpsons defend the home against someone rummaging through the kitchen.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/058/1/7/Home_Defense_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg

[Glitcher]

Good gravy, STM! I can't chuffin' see the pictures when they're so dark! Considering you did the exact same thing with that picture of two cars on a near-invisible road, I noticed you have a severe problem colouring dark scenes. Besides, the nightclub isn't even supposed to be dark! There are spots above the floor, but they don't illuminate anything. They're just coloured blobs on the ceiling. Just because a scene is dimly lit does not mean the picture should be hard to see. Again, I refer you to this Simpsons Halloween pic:

http://reporter.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/03/thohxix_tvg_fullpg_v2bf_1.jpg

This is a night scene, but the characters are all brightly coloured and are easily recognisable. The only major change in shading between this and a daytime scene is that the shadows are starker to emphasize the jack-o-lantern's candles. You would do well to accentuate the contrast in similar pictures. And even if your pictures still turn out too dark, bring up the Levels menu with CTRL+L and slide the top-right arrow left until the lighting becomes acceptable. See the difference?:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/999/templt.jpg

I see you finally have your speech bubbles corrected, but for some reason the Koopa's dialogue is still aligned left. Did you forget something?

[Startrekman700]

Good gravy, STM! I can't chuffin' see the pictures when they're so dark! Considering you did the exact same thing with that picture of two cars on a near-invisible road, I noticed you have a severe problem colouring dark scenes. Besides, the nightclub isn't even supposed to be dark! There are spots above the floor, but they don't illuminate anything. They're just coloured blobs on the ceiling. Just because a scene is dimly lit does not mean the picture should be hard to see. Again, I refer you to this Simpsons Halloween pic:

http://reporter.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/03/thohxix_tvg_fullpg_v2bf_1.jpg

This is a night scene, but the characters are all brightly coloured and are easily recognisable. The only major change in shading between this and a daytime scene is that the shadows are starker to emphasize the jack-o-lantern's candles. You would do well to accentuate the contrast in similar pictures. And even if your pictures still turn out too dark, bring up the Levels menu with CTRL+L and slide the top-right arrow left until the lighting becomes acceptable. See the difference?:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8058/tempnz.jpg

I see you finally have your speech bubbles corrected, but for some reason the Koopa's dialogue is still aligned left. Did you forget something?


I have to say you are actually missing the point of dark scenes is that...They are dark. You're not supposed to see but very little unless they are lit by something from somewhere.

Now the first scene, the dance floor. It's in a sparsely lit room where you can only make out the first characters and the rest are stocks.

an example by DA user pouncerSD

http://pouncersd.deviantart.com/art/Twilight-Prom-Night-85317300

it may not be all the way dark but he has the same idea as mine. Only the main characters get seen and the secondary not. Also that it's sparsely lit.

YOu also siad the second one is too dark. Well thats because its the middle of the night and there is only light from within the kitchen.


This may not be of a kitchen but it's the same idea, you can only see things that are lit from a light source.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/102/253471889_55b89b02ce.jpg



Some would have a problem with the simpsons picture up above. For one, wher eis the light coming from. It's way to lit to be in the night. Second, why is it so easy to see them?

and i have to critize you for being a little too nitpicky without doing a little research.

[Glitcher]

I think you're the one missing the point, STM. ART ≠ REALITY! The colours in cartoons are more saturated, atmospheric and romantic. You cannot look at photos as reference for a palette for cartoon characters because you end painting pictures that are underlit or desaturated. It's also a bad idea to paint a picture that has no illumination like the couch scene, because there's no light to define the characters. I'm astonished to hear there's a kitchen light in the last picture, because I don't see it at all. Even moonlight through the windows would offer more illumination than what you painted there. I don't know if your monitor has its brightness level jammed at 10'000%, but you're deluding yourself into seeing light in places where there is none. I also had to laugh at you comparing your disco scene to PouncerSD's, because his picture is blindingly better lit than yours. The characters in the foregroud could be standing in broad daylight and wouldn't look out of place. It doesn't sound realistic, but it's a key element in setting the correct lighting levels for a cartoon picture. In future, don't paint your pictures so dark, and don't dismiss the advice of someone who is trying to help.

[Startrekman700]

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/999/templt.jpg

I see you finally have your speech bubbles corrected, but for some reason the Koopa's dialogue is still aligned left. Did you forget something?


I think i will have to say once again, you miss the point. I appreciate and laud you are helping out which has improved my art technique. I think sometimes you don't see what a scene is supposed to invoke before you critize. The picture on the right defeats the purpose of what i was trying to do, which was invoke a romantic mood.

The dance floor is SUPPOSED to be darkened to a point where you cannot make out the background people. Only the main characters are supposed to be sparsely seen. Did you go to your prom? Do you remember how darkened the dance floor was to invoke a romantic mood. Do you go to clubs. Sometimes they darken the dance floor to bring a romantic mood. Now tell me if you do, do you clearly see the background people clearly when your there? Do the people closest to you become more clear?

Here's what I like for you to do. Google Image or go to DeviantArt and type in "Dark Scenes" "Night Scenes" or "Low Light Scenes" and really look at them. Don't go for the same types over and over. Look at different scenes? I think you need to move beyond your narrow standard of how someone's art is supposed to be and to look at others.

[Glitcher]

I think I'm talking to the wall here. I'll say it again, nice and clear this time:


ART ≠ REALITY!

Every example you cited - proms, nightclubs, dark scenes - those are all photographs! They don't apply to cartoon pictures! You can't draw cartoon figures with a realistic palette any more than you can draw realistic figures with a cartoon palette. It's a conflict of styles! You need to adjust the lighting levels of your pics so that the scene is clearly visible, even in the darkest of conditions. But still, try and prove me wrong. If you can find a cartoon picture like your dance club that is as severely underlit, I will happily eat my words and run around Toonzone stark naked.

[Startrekman700]

What art school did you go to? I didn't go to one and I seem to know about setting a scene more than you do. Your SUPPOSED to study photographs for ideas on how to create scenes. Not to copy but to model scenes. Your SUPPOSED to use them as referenece. How do you think people create those good looking naked models. By memory, nope, they study references. You're supposed to study the scene for it's meaning and it's theme. The reason the drawing is darkened is that it's a romantic scene.

I am not even aiming for realism. I am aiming for plausibility. I am aiming for the image that looks good but yet still conveys the idea.

Maybe you need to turn up the gamma setting on your monitor. Most people can see the characters real well.

[Glitcher]

*groan* Since this argument obviously isn't going to be resolved simply by stating our opinions on the lighting levels, perhaps I can prove my point to you quantifiably. The graphs you see at the bottom of this image are called histograms and can be viewed in the Photoshop's Levels menu. They indicate the amount of dark and light pixels on the current layer, with dark pixels leaning towards the left side of the graph and light pixels leaning towards the right. A painting that has a balanced palette, regardless of lighting conditions, will show a complete graph from end to end:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8758/tempgv.jpg


With that said, let's compare the histogram of your pic with that of the Simpsons Halloween:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6135/temp2su.jpg

See! Your pic's histogram is completely squashed to the left side of the graph. Now do you believe me that the image is too dark? I'd like to see you back up your claim with some proof, not just an opinion. You believe to know more about lighting conditions than me, yet you admit you've never been to an art school in your life. I, on the other hand, have been to three, and I majored in sequential art at college in Belgium, so I sure as hell know what I'm talking about. You still fail to grasp the difference between art and reality if you think practicing still life at school helps you draw cartoon pictures! I also find your claim of "most people can see the characters real well" extremely dubious, considering not only have you received no other feedback to these pictures here, but no one has commented on them on your deviantArt account!

Quite frankly STM, you're full of sh*t. You stubbornly maintain your point of view with incorrect references, the feedback for your DA gallery is deserted, and you're a thirty year-old man who draws like a child. Even simple tasks like making a perfect circle or drawing a straight wall are too challenging for you. You didn't even know how to create proper speech bubbles until I showed you how. If I am wrong, then why don't you go back to the way you made them before? I guess you're simply beyond help. The worst kind of artist is the one who fights criticism rather than learn from it. I'm done with this thread. If you need further advice on how to use Photoshop, look elsewhere, because you'll get no help from me.

[Dudley]

It's true that in art school, you're trained to observe from life.
But you shouldn't emulate it to the letter. If you want to emphasize something in a dark place in a room, you use contrast, where the thing you point out is clearly visible, and it sticks out from the rest.
Everything in that image is too dark so it doesn't work.

[Startrekman700]

*groan* Since this argument obviously isn't going to be resolved simply by stating our opinions on the lighting levels, perhaps I can prove my point to you quantifiably. The graphs you see at the bottom of this image are called histograms and can be viewed in the Photoshop's Levels menu. They indicate the amount of dark and light pixels on the current layer, with dark pixels leaning towards the left side of the graph and light pixels leaning towards the right. A painting that has a balanced palette, regardless of lighting conditions, will show a complete graph from end to end:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8758/tempgv.jpg


With that said, let's compare the histogram of your pic with that of the Simpsons Halloween:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6135/temp2su.jpg

See! Your pic's histogram is completely squashed to the left side of the graph. Now do you believe me that the image is too dark? I'd like to see you back up your claim with some proof, not just an opinion. You believe to know more about lighting conditions than me, yet you admit you've never been to an art school in your life.



You supposedly went to an art school in Belgium, you must have went to a sub-standard one. You have said you do no use a photograph as a model for your drawing. Damn you must have wasted some money like shnitz. Using a photograph as reference IS THE MOST BASIC TENANT of drawing. Who were your teachers, Mr Magoo? The one on the left used dancing references from photos.

And those examples are so off the base it's laughable. Those ARE daytime pictures. You only succeeded in making a daytime picture look like a guldamn filtered shot. What i drew was a dark dance floor in a dark room sparsely lit. You only filtered a daytime pic. You only show your lacking in the dynamics of lighting and setting.






I, on the other hand, have been to three, and I majored in sequential art at college in Belgium, so I sure as hell know what I'm talking about. You still fail to grasp the difference between art and reality if you think practicing still life at school helps you draw cartoon pictures! I also find your claim of "most people can see the characters real well" extremely dubious, considering not only have you received no other feedback to these pictures here, but no one has commented on them on your deviantArt account!



Once again, I will say you must have wasted your tenure because you sure as hell don't grasp the concept of using a real life still pic to model a cartoon drawing. Not copy but draw the basic parts of it and add your ideas to it.

Did you read the views. You do realize that just because people don't comment doesn't mean they didn't see it. You cannot control whether they like it or not. They did see it. This is an example of moving the goal posts. Switching from lighting to showing my view count on DA.



Quite frankly STM, you're full of sh*t. You stubbornly maintain your point of view with incorrect references, the feedback for your DA gallery is deserted, and you're a thirty year-old man who draws like a child. Even simple tasks like making a perfect circle or drawing a straight wall are too challenging for you. You didn't even know how to create proper speech bubbles until I showed you how. If I am wrong, then why don't you go back to the way you made them before? I guess you're simply beyond help. The worst kind of artist is the one who fights criticism rather than learn from it. I'm done with this thread. If you need further advice on how to use Photoshop, look elsewhere, because you'll get no help from me.


This paragraph shows what a blasted twit you are. Using an ad homimen attack when you know I have shown you examples of how scenes are set. What is your standard of drawing if I draw like a f()kkin child. What's the age bracket? What the criteria of how an adult draws?

Did William Hanna and Joseph Barbera drew like children? They didn't even go to art school! Most of their animations was flat and lacked perspective but they are universally loved around the world. Why is that? What was the standard by which they should have drawn? Does Matt Greoning draw like a chid? He also didn't go to art school. Some people trained in art would say the simpsons are crude and childish. Yet they are liked around the world? Why? What was the criteria for him to draw like an adult? Frankly, you saying I draw like a child screams of someone who has set up a wall of ignorance in spite of the fact I showed you pictures to prove my point.

I have responed to your critizism by using your system of drawing art bubbles but when I showed proof of mood setting and lighting. You move the goal posts by asking me to find darkened club pictures. I could care less if your ass was done with this thread. You have shown yourself to be a complete idiot with no grasp of the basic tenents of setting and theme.

[Startrekman700]

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/067/6/2/Warner_Kids_in_hot_tub_by_DHTSciFiArtist.jpg


The warner kids in a hot tub with a couple making out.

[Startrekman700]

Sorry for not posting for so long. Had a conflict with one who will remain nameless.


http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/104/4/e/Sonic_and_Sally_Date_Watched_by_DHTSciFiMaster.jpg


Imagine if you had a date and some creatures was watching you. Wakko, Yakoo and Dot watch Sonic and Sally have a date.


A Minor comic...
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/106/c/e/Party_Takeover_by_DHTSciFiMaster.jpg


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/108/a/e/Party_Takeover_Part_3_by_DHTSciFiMaster.jpg


An appearance by an old video game character, Earthworm Jim and his nemesis, Psycrow, Our heroes crash a party with a bunch of drunk people, Psycrow crashes it and Earthworm Jim gets into epic fight. It is ended by Sariata.

[Startrekman700]

more non comic art.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/095/c/9/Night_Out_by_DHTSciFiMaster.jpg


A night out with our heroes.


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/091/0/d/LisaxLemmy_Makeout_in_Bed_by_DHTSciFiMaster.jpg


This is actually part 3 of a Sonic/Sally marriage comic but I split it off because it was more popular than the comic. Lisa Simpson and Lemmy Koopa have a hot and heavy make out session which is interrupted by Billy Koopa.