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Jon Cooke
06-27-2001, 06:33 PM
There will be some changes to the CN schedule on Sunday nights starting in July:

BEGINNING SUNDAY, JULY 8

SUNDAY EVENINGS:
8:00pm: Flintstones
8:30pm: Scooby-Doo
9:00pm: Tom & Jerry
9:30pm: Chuck Jones
10:00pm: Bob Clampett
10:30pm: Tex Avery
11:00pm: Toonheads
11:30pm: Toonheads


-Jon

Jon Cooke
06-27-2001, 07:10 PM
Here are how Sunday nights will look once "Adult Swim" begins. I found it interesting. This may change, but at the moment here's a glimpse into the future:

BEGINNING SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 2

7:30pm: Powerpuff Girls
8:00pm: Samurai Jack
8:30pm: Chuck Jones
9:00pm: Bob Clampett
9:30pm: Tex Avery
10:00pm: Adult Swim
1:00am: Toonheads
1:30am: Late Night Black and White
2:30am: Droopy
3:00am: Popeye

I am glad to see that we'll still get an hour of LNB&W. With Toonheads now at 1:00am, wouldn't this be a great place to showcase rare cartoons ??? Of course, they'll probably just keep recycling the same old episodes.



-Jon

Jack
06-27-2001, 07:19 PM
If only they would make new Toonheads, but then again, September is pretty far off at the moment, and there hasn't really been a new Toonheads for quite a while (the two one hour specials aside), so maybe, just maybe, they have been making new ones. Though, it isn't too realistic to get ones hopes up, I suppose. Oh well, Toonheads at midnight (if your times are eastern standard) still sounds good....


Jack:D

lislebartman
06-27-2001, 07:39 PM
New episodes of "Toonheads" would be really nice, but how about some more rarely-broadcast cartoons on LNB&W? I would like to see some of the post Harman-Ising B & W Merrie Melodies and maybe a Bosko or Buddy here & there would be nice.

Those awful prints of Betty Boop cartoons have to go!!

Also, how about some more episodes of "The Bob Clampett Show?"

Patrick McCart
06-27-2001, 08:02 PM
CN could only make a few more episodes of the BCS.

There's about 20 more Beany cartoons...
Coal Black
Tin Pan Alley Cats
Injun Trouble
Ali-Baba Bound
Crazy Cruise
Africa Squeaks
It's A Grand Ol' Nag (Doubt it that Republic would let CN use it.)
The Goofy Gophers (Clampett supervised dialogue recording?)
and maybe some of the cartoons Clampett animated...although that would be better as a clip show.

I think the 26 episodes will be the only ones...unless CN wants to make a "Lost" Clampett cartoon marathon consisting of Coal Black, Tin Pan Alley Cats, Injun Trouble, Ali-Baba Bound, and Africa Squeaks. I doubt CN would show the first two...even though they're not really racist...just raunchy.

kiddiesunshine
06-28-2001, 12:40 AM
I heard that there probably won't be any more new BCS episodes. The reason is because the only cartoons they'd have left to show are the ones deemed politically incorrect.

The Dork Knight
06-28-2001, 01:23 PM
10:00pm: Bob Clampett

NOOOO! DAMMIT! WHY DO THEY DO THOSE THINGS O ME?NOW I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO WATCH BOB CLAMPETT! MY MOM WATCHES SIX FEET UNDER AT THAT TIME! THAT SUCKS! :( :mad:

Nelson
06-28-2001, 07:33 PM
This is what Cartoon Network can do on late Sunday nights...A very special weekly late edition of "Toonheads" with PIC cartoons (with FULL disclaimers) instead of repeats. Now this is how CN can expand "Adult Swim" on Sunday nights, regarding LNB&W, that will be a perfect time to start showing Bosko and Buddy cartoons along with some other B&W Porky cartoons that haven't aired yet.LNB&W is very long overdue for some MAJOR rare cartoons to showcased on this program, changes need to be made.

Jack
06-28-2001, 08:01 PM
They need to expant LNB&W to include all B&W cartoons that were made at the Warner Brothers studio and at the MGM studio. There isn't much reason to withhold so much of it when:

A. It's late at night
B. They don't realise how many kids DESPISE B&W anything. I've been told many times that "it sucks because it's black and white." They wouldn't have to worry about impressionable kids...



Jack:D

Nelson
06-28-2001, 08:55 PM
There wouldn't be much B&W MGM cartoons in their library, after Metro Goldwyn Mayer dumped Iwerks at the end of 1934, there wasn't any B&W cartoons until 1938. Only ten cartoons were produced in B&W for MGM, but regarding the early Iwerks/MGM cartoons, MGM doesn't own the rights to the Iwerks collection and never did, the studio just distributed the films thru Celebrity Pictures.

BTW:Don't you just love my new avatar Of Flip The Frog as a dentist while drilling a cat and his teeth flying all over the place.:)
LAUGHING GAS (1931)

Pietro
06-28-2001, 09:07 PM
I still think CN should show Flip the Frog. After all, his cartoons ARE in the public domain and if they can show public domain Betty Boop cartoons they can do the same with Flip and all the silent cartoons including Felix the Cat.

BTW, I think your Flip the Frog avatar is pretty cool.
My avatar is Flip's dog from "Puppy Love" (1932).

-Pietro

Nelson
06-28-2001, 11:35 PM
Pietro. love it, juuusssst love it...
FLIP THE FROG RULES!!!!

Bobby B
06-29-2001, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Jon Cooke
Here are how Sunday nights will look once "Adult Swim" begins. I found it interesting. This may change, but at the moment here's a glimpse into the future:

BEGINNING SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 2

7:30pm: Powerpuff Girls
8:00pm: Samurai Jack
8:30pm: Chuck Jones
9:00pm: Bob Clampett
9:30pm: Tex Avery
10:00pm: Adult Swim
1:00am: Toonheads
1:30am: Late Night Black and White
2:30am: Droopy
3:00am: Popeye





Does this mean no more O Canada?

TServo2049
06-29-2001, 01:36 AM
Yup. No more O Canada.

PorkyandDaffy
06-29-2001, 02:43 AM
I never did like that show anyway.

David Gerstein
06-29-2001, 03:15 AM
In 1996 I worked briefly as a graphic designer for Bosko Video, designing the packaging for their Flip the Frog and Felix the Cat series.
From this experience I can tell you that NO... Flip the Frog cartoons are *not* mostly in the public domain. A few are (LITTLE ORPHAN WILLIE, PUDDLE PRANKS), but most are owned by a company called Film Preservation Associates. They own and license many of the earlier Iwerks cartoons to this day. Not that I wouldn't rather they were really PD, but you get the idea.
For whatever it's worth, I heard that FPA actually *did* try to get CN to license the Flip series from them for LNB&W sometime around 1996... at a high price, though, that CN didn't have the budget for.

David Gerstein -- Flip the Frog fan!
(yes... there have been tapes containing MOVIE MAD, BULLONEY, and FUNNY FACE that claim they're in the public domain, but they ain't!)

TServo2049
06-29-2001, 10:37 AM
That's very interesting. I always assumed Republic owned the Flip cartoons. After all, Commonwealth, who got the television (and possibly ALL) rights, was eventually bought out by Blackhawk Films, who was eventually bought out by NTA, who was eventually bought out by Consolidated Film Industries and changed their name to Republic Pictures. Then again, I forgot that television, home movie, and ownership rights to films were given to various DIFFERENT companies in the 1950s, and it's impossible to determine who owns what now.

Pietro
06-29-2001, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by David Gerstein
In 1996 I worked briefly as a graphic designer for Bosko Video, designing the packaging for their Flip the Frog and Felix the Cat series.
From this experience I can tell you that NO... Flip the Frog cartoons are *not* mostly in the public domain. A few are (LITTLE ORPHAN WILLIE, PUDDLE PRANKS), but most are owned by a company called Film Preservation Associates. They own and license many of the earlier Iwerks cartoons to this day. Not that I wouldn't rather they were really PD, but you get the idea.
For whatever it's worth, I heard that FPA actually *did* try to get CN to license the Flip series from them for LNB&W sometime around 1996... at a high price, though, that CN didn't have the budget for.

Man, if CN only had the money, this Sunday we could be watchin' Flip the Frog on LNB&W.

BTW, David I did see some comments of your's on the back of one
of those Felix tapes Bosko Video made.

-Pietro

Sogturtle
07-08-2001, 11:02 AM
Besides the above listed unshown Clampett cartoons there is his first directorial assignment, the animated titles for "When's Your Birthday?". Then there are his Snafu shorts "Fighting Tools" and "Booby Traps" and his lone Mr. Hook cartoon, "The Return of Mr. Hook". If they REALLY wanted to get catholic, then Columbia could lend them the few cartoons that Bob co-wrote uncredited under Katz & Binder in the late Forties...

As for Flip the Frog, Nelson and David Gerstein...

Yep, David Gerstein is very right, the Flip the Frog copyrights have been assiduously maintained. However what hardly anybody knows is that although glib-tongued Irishman Pat Powers Celebrity Pictures owned the Flip cartoons they were originally copyrighted by another entity altogether... Namely an outfit named (get this) "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Distributing Co." which was a distinct wholly-owned Loews subsidiary which RELEASED films that MGM did NOT really own, i.e. the Flip the Frog cartoons. Sooooo on those grounds I have a good basis that Flip and Willie HAVE to be included as MGM cartoons!!! (Course that makes Carl Stalling MGM's first music director!!!).

Hey David, I was in Denmark last week and didn't see you!! ;)... Or were you one of only three bike-riding folks who WAS wearing a helmet?!?!? I figured they had to be non-Danes :)

Inkspot
07-08-2001, 11:44 AM
what is Adult swim?

Joe Tully
07-08-2001, 01:35 PM
Adult Swim will be a series of cartoons for adults, including new episodes of Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Most will be made by Williams St., the same people who make Space Ghost. For a past thread on Adult Swim, follow the link:

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2012&highlight=adult+swim

or you can search the archives, there's plenty of other info in there on Adult Swim.