What is the worst WB cartoon ever?

[John Doe]

I have a hardback copy of "The Warner Brothers Cartoons", written in 1981 by Will Friedwald and Jerry Beck. In it, they say 1961's "What's My Lion?" is possibly the worst Warners cartoon ever. While I don't think "WML" is great, it probably isn't the worst ever, either. What do you think is the worst ever? :rolleyes:

[J Lee]

I'd say "Mexican Cat Dance" gets my vote as the worst, at least in the pre-DFE era. "Big Game Haunt" and "Chaser on the Rocks" are right up there though, if you want to toss in the post-1964 WB shorts.

[PorkyandDaffy]

My vote goes to I WAS A TEENAGE THUMB. It was extremely boring and not funny.

As for the post-65 cartoon era, that's too hard to choose. Almost all of them were terrible.

[Patrick McCart]

Tired and Feathered.

The animation is poor, the music is flat, and the gags are bad.

[David Gerstein]

For me...

...the worst is PRE-HYSTERICAL HARE. Now, there are cartoons from later on (mid-1960s) where the actual execution is worse, but imagine the "caveman" theme as it might have been done by Clampett in 1944 or Jones in 1949! Then look at the way it's been done in PRE-HYSTERICAL HARE.
PRE-HYSTERICAL gets the booby prize not just for being a boring time-killer with awful music and vocals, but for being an awful waste of a potentially very good theme.

David

[Brandon Pierce]

Devil's Feud Cake?

[grundle]

Honey's Money is the one that I hate the most. (I'm limiting my selection to pre-64 cartoons, and I'm not counting cheaters, because cheaters aren't original creations).

Sam was created as a foe for Bugs, so that Bugs could have some buttons to push. Having a Sam cartoon without Bugs is already bad enough. But that woman in the cartoon is awful - her personality is so unlikeable. Watching this cartoon is downright painful. The fact that Sam is one of my favorite characters, and is in so many of my favorite cartoons, just adds to the insult of this cartoon.

[DR. BELCH]

Something about trying to cutesy up two of the most vicious hoodlums of the 1920's who died brutally by being shot over 100 times in their sedan by turning them into carrot-stealing bunnies being chased by an incompetent lawman rings sour with me. Solamente mi opinion.

[Matthew Hunter]

For me it's a tie between "Devil's Feud Cake" and "See Ya Later Gladiator", that is, if you want the absolute worst ever. Some of the ones you mention there are bad, others I like, but these two, in my opinion, suck.
-Matthew

[barnyarddawg]

I have to agree with David, Pre-Hysterical Hare is bad!

Sport Chumpions is God-awful. The first joke, with the archer, is good, but it's way downhill from there.

They may not be the worst cartoons, but I can't stand Porky's Double Trouble and Porky of the Northwoods. I despise Double Trouble's ending, and Northwoods has a Porky beating scene that I think is uncalled for. It goes on way too long, and Porky sounds like he is actually being hurt.

I have to disagree with Honey's Money, that's funny stuff. The appearence and voice of Wentworth cracks me up everytime. Sam," If you think , that I'm going to live with that prehistoric hornytoad....."

[Matthew Hunter]

I hate "Northwoods" too, but for a different reason. It's too CUTE! UGH! The opening with the little animals is enough for me, thank you.
-Matthew

[billyjoelfan]

my vote goes to the dover boys

every time that comes on i change the channel or fast foward the tape

[PorkyandDaffy]

I also think PORKY'S SNOOZE REEL is really bad. It was directed by both Bob Clampett (a top rate director) and Norm McCabe (a low rate director). Both their styles are different, and combining them both into one cartoon was a bad move. The cartoon was awkward, and there were more bad, unfunny gags than good, funny ones. The part with Porky's voice-over taking like Lew Lehr was dumb, also, because there was no reason for it and he just talked in his normal voice before. The ending wasn't that good either. Not the worst WB cartoon, but hard for me to watch.

[Jack]

I can't stand "Rocket Squad," it is a terribly dull cartoon. The thing seems to go on forever too. And don't tell me that i have to be aquainted with old detective shows to get the humor, I've seen my share of shows like "Dragnet" and such, and "Rocket Squad" still bores me to death. I wouldn't call it the worst, though. It's just that everyone beat me and took all the good answers (eccept for Dover Boys, that's a laugh riot).

I also dislike "Corn On The Cop," they take a great premise that would have totally succeeded if Freleng had directed it in the 40s or 50s, but here it is limited, unfunny, and ugly to boot. Who directed this anyway? I think Freleng wrote it.


Jack:D

[The Dork Knight]

Nelly's Folly
I just can't stand this cartoon. I'd rather be thrown off a cliff then watch this piece of crap.

[PorkyandDaffy]

How about DUMB PATROL (the one with Bugs Bunny)? Horrible, and wasted a Porky Pig appearance to boot.

[hippety hopper]

THE WILD CHASE!!!!!

I was so excited to see Speedy and Road runner haveing a race but they ruined it by using old jokes from other Road runner cartoons.

I also don't like Cats paw.
I normally like Sylvester and Jr. going out to hunt BUT this just seemed a bit to much like all the other cartoons where the try and catch something(bird or mouse),then Sylvester fails and JR. puts a bag over his head.

[grundle]

Originally posted by DR. BELCH
Something about trying to cutesy up two of the most vicious hoodlums of the 1920's who died brutally by being shot over 100 times in their sedan by turning them into carrot-stealing bunnies being chased by an incompetent lawman rings sour with me. Solamente mi opinion.

I don't think that you're viewing the cartoon in the context that it was intended to be seen. The cartoon isn't about two killers. Instead, the cartoon is a parody of the movie Bonnie and Clyde, which was based on the real life killers.

In order to properly understand the cartoon, you have to have seen the movie.

Bonnie and Clyde is one of my 10 favorite movies ever. It's a great film. Highly recommended.

And it takes place in the 1930s, not the 1920s.

[grundle]

Originally posted by billyjoelfan
my vote goes to the dover boys

every time that comes on i change the channel or fast foward the tape

I used to change the channel, too. I hated it based on the first 30 seconds.

But then one day, I actually wathced the cartoon all the way through, and I came to liking it.

The cartoon is different than any other, that's for sure. But maybe try giving it another chance someday. It does have a lot of interesting things in it.

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by Gotlucky64
Nelly's Folly
I just can't stand this cartoon. I'd rather be thrown off a cliff then watch this piece of crap.

I totally agree. Nelly's Folly had absolutely nothing to offer. It was nothing but snoozing, and without a "That's All Folks!" at the end, it certainly gets my vote.

Also, Malibu Beach Party (1940) with the stars and Jack Benny, must be considered as plain awful, too.

[Lonestarr]

How dare you pick on "The Dover Boys" and "Rocket Squad"! Those are funny in my opinion. Likewise, those Bunny and Claude cartoons. I've never seen the movie (maybe I should, huh?), but I found them entertaining.

Now, the ones I don't like... I agree with "What's My Lion". It's dull and dumb; you should try to find that Humphrey Bear cartoon instead. It has more or less the same premise, but it's a riot. Also, try any Road Runner not directed by the man himself, Chuck Jones.

[PorkyandDaffy]

I don't think MALIBU BEACH PARTY is really bad. Maybe the fact that it's considered un-PC today and hardly ever shown by CN makes me like it.

I'm surprised nobody said GOOD NIGHT ELMER yet.

[hippety hopper]

I quite like both "Malibu beach party" and "Good night elmer".
I saw both of them over the weekend(Toonheads and Bugs and daffy show)and thought they were really funny.

Why is Malibu beach party seen to be Un-PC?

[Jack]

I sort of like GOOD NIGHT ELMER, I find it more entertaining than the two other cartoons I've mentioned.



Jack:D

[Andrew Gilmore]

OK. Pre-Hysterical Hare, Devil's Feud Cake, Rocket Squad, etc. are pretty bad. I agree there. But when it comes to God-awful cartoons, Cat's Paw takes the cake! ABC used to show it.. let's just say, "too many times". And they sometimes used it to FINISH UP the program. I would want it to end with a bang, not a clink. Cat's Paw is the worst. OK, a couple good lines ("An anemic sparrow would suit me just fine!") but basically, that cartoon just makes me emotionally (not always physically) cringe. It's 99% unfunny.

And for that matter, a semi-random observation: how could the audience stand hearing that bird's shreik through EIGHT speakers back in 1959?!

[lislebartman]

Wow! This thread's gone two pages already? Oh, well, I might as well put my two cents in.

After watching Warner 'toons practically all my life, these 3 get my least-favorite vote:

3) "Birds of a Father" (1961) - just plain bad. Not funny in the least. Best example of Dave Detiege's lame storywork for Warners (although I do like "Prince Violent" & "Compressed Hare")
2) "Jungle Jitters" (1938) - A bad Friz Freleng cartoon? Yes, one does exist. Watch it and you'll know why it is no longer on TV, racial stereotypes aside.

and my vote for the worst Warners 'toon goes to:

1) "Bartholemew Versus The Wheel" (1964) - why the hell is this cartoon still in existence? I can't believe this was ever made, much less produced at the tail-end of Warner's heyday. Never has a cartoon made me cringe as much as this one has.

[Cartoon King]

I must agree with some of the choices everyone has made. As if Bunny and Claude wasn't bad enough, they make a sequel, The Great Carrot Train Robbery. I also dislike Rabbits Stew and Rabbits Too with the awful Rapid Rabbit. But for me the one that takes the cake is Rookie Revue.

The gags were horrible, the ending even worse. And to top it all off, the best gag in the whole cartoon gets edited out on CN!

:mad:


Well, what did you expect in an opera? A happy ending?

[PorkyandDaffy]

Why is Malibu beach party seen to be Un-PC?

It's deemed un-PC because it has several scenes with a big-lipped Rochester caricature, and those scenes cannot be edited out - it's too important to the cartoon, and he's in the ending, too (if they did, the cartoon wouldn't be as good - Rochester is the funniest thing in it).

[PorkyandDaffy]

Oh, yeah, how could I forget to mention THE BIRD CAME C.O.D.? It was awful. Just awful. My pic for the second worst WB cartoon.

[Lonestarr]

I don't remember "Rookie Revue", "Sport Chumpions", "Dumb Patrol" or "Cat's Paw". What were they about?

[Matthew Hunter]

"Rookie Revue",:
A bunch of really dumb army gags about "joining the army for a day' and seeing how everyday life within one is.

"Sport Chumpions",:
Various spot-gags about different sports. Mostly, the sports themselves are kind of lame and the gags are even worse. Not the worst ever made, but pretty lame, anyway.

"Dumb Patrol":
Bugs Bunny is a World War I flying ace who replaces Porky Pig on a mission to fight the evil red baron, Yosemite Sam! Except for a really cool ending, the cartoon is just bland as can be.

"Cat's Paw".
Sylvester and son climb a mountain in the middle of a desert (think "Mission :Impossible 2") to hunt birds, mainly the huge eagles up there. Sylvester even gets beat up by a baby eagle and a little butterfly. I don't think this is a bad one, but we all like different stuff.

-Matthew

[Jack]

I like "Cat's Paw" and "Birds Of A Father," they aren't the worst thing McKimson could cook up. I think some of the dialoge in "Birds Of A Father" is sort of funny, and it's a nice departure from the giant mice. "Cat's Paw" would be better with more expressive or crazy animation. Sylvester just seems wooden, and doesn't act as freaked out as he sounds.

I don't really like "Freudy Cat," but cheaters doen't really count.

While not the worst, "Hare Breadth Hurry" is pretty bad. Putting Bugs in place of the Road Runner just didn't work. If Wile E. talked, it would be different. Wile E. comes off as a bad guy in the other Bugs-Coyote cartoons because he has a superiority complex and makes it very clear that he thinks Bugs MUST BE inferior to him.



Jack:D

[hippety hopper]

Originally posted by PorkyandDaffy


It's deemed un-PC because it has several scenes with a big-lipped Rochester caricature, and those scenes cannot be edited out - it's too important to the cartoon, and he's in the ending, too (if they did, the cartoon wouldn't be as good - Rochester is the funniest thing in it).

Thanks for answering that.
I saw that cartoon on "Toonheads" over the weekend and totally forgot about that charter I thought it was quite funny Jack Bunny(benny) even had to sit on him to get him to listen to his music.

[Rob]

Well, I dislike NELLY'S FOLLY, pretty much ANY Sniffles cartoon that isn't HUSH MY MOUSE, FISH AND SLIPS, and although I know it's popular, THREE LITTLE BOPS. Hard to say if these are the worst though.

Of course the post '64 cartoons are just God awful, but those don't really count.

[Pietro]

Originally posted by Matthew Hunter
I hate "Northwoods" too, but for a different reason. It's too CUTE! UGH! The opening with the little animals is enough for me, thank you.
-Matthew

I never really was crazy about "Northwoods" either.
The ending when the villian beats up Porky is awful.

Oh, yeah, I really hate "The Up-Standing Sitter" I really feel sorry for Daffy in this one and the ending gag is really weak.

"Mad as a Mars Hare" is pretty bad too, it seems really weak.

"The Tree's Knees" is OK, but, Bosko hardly appears in it. Most of the cartoon is about dacing trees and the subject of the dancing trees gets boring after awhile.

-Pietro

[Lonestarr]

Are you insane?! "The Three Little Bops" is a friggin' classic. I agree with "The Up-Standing Sitter". I wanted to post it, but I forgot the title. As for the response to my previous post, I still don't remember those first two, but those last two are coming back to me. They weren't that great.

[Thad Komorowski]

I don't really like "The Bird Came C.O.D." that much either. I don't really like Conrad Cat that much too. Surprisingly, Warner Bros. would STILL do a Disney rip-off in 1942. I like the other cartoons he's in, "Porky's Cafe" and "Conrad the Sailor", but that's because Porky Pig and Daffy Duck make it funny.

I used to love "Hare-Breadth Hurry" when I was like 9, but when I saw the cartoon for the first time since on JUNE BUGS, I relized something: Bugs talks way to f@!$%&* much in this one! It's not the worst, and I think it probably would've succeded if Jones did this in the early 50s.

The Buddy cartoons I've seen are awfully dull. But the worst cartoon? I think it is:

"One Froggy Evening" (to quote Jerry Colona: Ahh! Something New Has Been Added!) I can't STAND this cartoon! Possibly CN has taken the enjoyment out of it for me, airing it so freakin' much.

-Thad:D

[Matthew Hunter]

You hate "One Froggy Evening"? It's probably because they play it way too often on CN. I like that cartoon a lot, it's an animated classic, but hey, they COULD give it a rest for a while. They should play other great Jones stuff instead, like Road Runner. Seems to me that they play more post-64 Road Runner now than they do the Chuck Jones originals. That's a shame, because while the post-64's are perfectly watchable and often very well done for the budget, they don't have the same quality or feel of the originals.
-Matthew

[Thad Komorowski]

Okay, so I don't HATE it. It's just my least-favorite, since I've seen it so many times, that the enjoyment isn't the same. The worst WB cartoon? Okay, how about a lot of the early 30's Merrie Melodies? 90% of the times I stay up to watch LATE NIGHT BLACK & WHITE, I'm able to watch through most of the cartoons, but when one of these comes on, I fall asleep. Most of those are SO BORING! Who CARES about a bunch of junk at a dump singing and dancing?!!?!?! GIVE ME BOSKO, OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!!!!!!!!:p :p :p

-Thad:D

[PorkyandDaffy]

What the heck is wrong with THE UP-STANDING SITTER? That cartoon is good. And what's so weak about the ending gag? It's a standard WB cartoon ending that's used a lot of times.

But I also don't like ONE FROGGY EVENING. The whole thing bores me, and it gets way too much airtime (as does other of Jones' "classics").

[PorkyandDaffy]

Seems to me that they play more post-64 Road Runner now than they do the Chuck Jones originals. That's a shame, because while the post-64's are perfectly watchable and often very well done for the budget, they don't have the same quality or feel of the originals.

I know that's the way you feel, but I can't stand those later RR&C cartoons. Larriva just couldn't handle the characters. The gags and scenes were flat and terrible, the artwork was poor, and they used the same music in every cartoon - and it NEVER fits the scene the music is put in. When I first saw those cartoons, that's what made me notice the low budget. Sometimes, I watch a Larriva RR&C just for a good laugh on how bad I think they are.

[Pietro]

Originally posted by PorkyandDaffy
What the heck is wrong with THE UP-STANDING SITTER? That cartoon is good. And what's so weak about the ending gag? It's a standard WB cartoon ending that's used a lot of times.

I hate "The Up-Standing Sitter" because that bulldog keeps beating up Daffy for stuff he practically never really did. You start to feel sorry for Daffy in this one. I really never found the ending gag funny, so, that's why I said it's weak

-Pietro

[Patrick McCart]

Lemme take back that about "Tired And Feathered"

At least it has good color schemes and Wile E. & Roadrunner.

I think the true worst (No redeeming quality) is...

DOUGH FOR THE DO-DO

1. Animation is lifted from the better product, Porky In Wackyland (and also Tin Pan Alley Cats if you're paying attention.)

2. The color schemes are pretty bad. They obviously did this very quickly.

3. The re-dubbed voices are not as good as the originals.

4. Friz Freleng didn't want credit for making this "remake"... I think that shows what he thought about ripping off someone else's cartoon.

5. The re-traced animation looks crude and not as smooth as the original (almost like every cel-drawn object or character has a thicker line in the drawings)

6. It misses the whole point of the original: Forget the plot and look at the silly animation!

7. It's missing FOO! (That footage taken from TPAC, though.)

DFTDD is like eating those "fat-free" potato chips that leave a bad taste in my mouth. I'd rather see the better original product.
This cartoon only serves one good purpose and that's being a guide for the computer colorization of Porky In Wackyland. The time-compressed print CN shows doesn't help the cartoon, either.[B]

[Jon Cooke]

Originally posted by Patrick McCart

DOUGH FOR THE DO-DO

2. The color schemes are pretty bad. They obviously did this very quickly.



That extremely dark, sped-up print CN runs is terrible. Pick up or rent a copy of Taz's Jungle Jams from Warner Home Video --- it's like watching a totally different cartoon. I didn't think too much of "Dough For the Do-Do" either, but after seeing it the way it was *meant* to be seen I have changed my mind. I thought the colors looked wonderful. Check it out, I think you'd be impressed.


-Jon

[Jack]

I'll have to check that video out too.

"Dough For The Do-Do" looks like it would have nice colors, you can't judge a cartoon by it's bad print...

I always looked at "Dough Fo The Do-Do" as a different cartoon rather than a rip off or remake of Clampett's cartoon. It is a bit of a cheater cartoon, though, but it's the best cheater cartoon WB ever made (IMO). I like it for it's own merits.

Also, I don't think Freleng thought it was awful and that that is why he didn't want his name on it, it's just that it wasn't a completely original work, and it wouldn't have been right to do so. But that's just what I think...




Jack:D

[Andrew Gilmore]

Now that YOU'VE all come out of the non-sexual closet, I must admit I don't like One Froggy Evening either.

[Owl Jolson]

I find it impossible to pick just one, but here are some generic guidelines for cartoons I'm bound to hate.

1. Any cartoon after 1962. The credit "Musical Direction by Bill Lava" is my signal to hit the mute button and go to the fridge.

2. Any cartoon with Sniffles in it. Sniffles must surely be the most irritating character in the entire history of animation. Second place goes to Sniffles' identical little bat friend in "The Brave Little Bat."

3. My award for B & W Cartoon Most Butchered by Incompetent Redrawing and Colorization goes to the colorized version of
"Puss 'N' Booty" that they show on CN. There are places in this hatchet job where so many frames are missing that it looks as if the inbetweeners had gone on strike. I hope that someday I get to see this cartoon as it was originally drawn. :(

[PorkyandDaffy]

What was the point of Freleng remaking PORKY IN WACKYLAND anyway? And if someone's going to remake a cartoon, it should be a cartoon they originally made. Freleng re-doing a Clampett cartoon won't cut it.

[J Lee]

What was the point of Freleng remaking PORKY IN WACKYLAND anyway? And if someone's going to remake a cartoon, it should be a cartoon they originally made. Freleng re-doing a Clampett cartoon won't cut it.

Well, Clampett had been gone from the studio for four years by the time the cartoon was remade, and this was a way for WB to save money while putting out a "new" cartoon to the theaters (and there were only a handful of LTs made in B&W that could be redone in color with only minor changes because the studio's style had become faster-paced and more gag oriented -- when McKimson redid Clampett's "Pied Piper Porky" as "Paying the Piper" it required almost entirely new animation and a heavily modified script).

Actually, I like the "floating" gag in Dough for the Do-Do better than the original Porky-down-the-water-pipe gag in "Wackyland" and the end gag of Porky disguised as a Do Do is also improved over the newsboy disguise, IMHO. My big question is why did Freleng get credit for the color remake of "Scalp Trouble," 1944's "Slightly Daffy" which has almost no new animation and was done while Clampett was still at the studio.

[Jack]

I sort of like the end gag to Dough For The Do-Do better too.... I also think the backgrounds are wonderful (they look like Paul Julian painted them) even though they sort of clash with the footage taken from "Tin Pan Alley Cats."

I've heard that it was made to keep Freleng staffers busy while he worked on some other project.

I don't know, "Dough For The Do-Do is a unigue remake in that it wasn't remade scene for scene, but was a combination of footage taken from two cartoons as well as some new stuff. It all boils down to personal opinion, I guess. I happen to like all three of the Wackyland cartoons very much.


Jack:D

[TServo2049]

Say, Jon, can you make a screenshot from the CN print of Dough for the Do-Do and put it side-by-side with the new VHS print?

[Jack]

About "One Froggy Evening"

It has a nice plot, good music, animation, and backgrounds (like most good WB cartoons) and I'd sit all the way through it if I hadn't seen it so much. I just don't think it's the "Citizen Cane" of cartoons or "As close to perfection ect ect" as some people may think. It isn't THAT thought provoking or really really deep. Actually, I prefer "Fresh Airedale" for my dose of semi serious dark side of human nature. "One Froggy Evening" is just overrated, like "What's Opera, Doc?"

Oh, and I think I'll add another cartoon to this thread as a "worst," "Box Office Bunny." That cartoon is garbage, as if time flew by and nothing real happened in the cartoon. It seems like they added the "lets build a theater over Bugs' home" element so they could cook up an excuse to have Bugs, Elmer, and Daffy run all about in a theater. So many spoiled oportunities in this cartoon. Also, isn't Bugs usually mad when someone intrudes on his property?

And I didn't like "From Hare To Eternity." Terrible voice work, hokey musical number, and they HAD to throw in the frog as well.



Jack:D

[Cartoon King]

While this thread seems to continue on, I came up with another couple of bad ones. Hobby Horse Laffs and Nutty News. The gags were terrible!!! Watch the doughnut scene in "Horse Laffs" or any other for that matter. The best gag in Nutty News with the Hitler-in-the-box always gets edited out except on BCS.

Also any cartoon made in the 90s is pointless, with the exception of Chariots of Fur. The plots seemed forced and try to reuse old gags and that fail. Toon Marooned is awful, but I guess that doesn't really count.



Sometimes I feel sorry for the Coyote. Sometimes I wish he'd catch the roadrunner.

[lislebartman]

Not to be a smartass, RhapsodyRabbit, but the name of the cartoon is "Hobby Horse Laffs", not "Horse Laffs". Sorry, it's just the perfectionist in me.:D

[PorkyandDaffy]

"Box Office Bunny." That cartoon is garbage, as if time flew by and nothing real happened in the cartoon. It seems like they added the "lets build a theater over Bugs' home" element so they could cook up an excuse to have Bugs, Elmer, and Daffy run all about in a theater. So many spoiled oportunities in this cartoon. Also, isn't Bugs usually mad when someone intrudes on his property?

I don't even bother to watch any of those 90's WB garbage cartoons. To me, it's not worth it. They bastardize the characters (don't these people remember when Daffy was actually 'daffy'?), I don't like the animation, and the new voices are terrible.

[Pietro]

Ditto

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by Patrick McCart
I think the true worst (No redeeming quality) is...

DOUGH FOR THE DO-DO

Animation is lifted from the better product, Porky In Wackyland (and also Tin Pan Alley Cats if you're paying attention.)[B]

Sorry guys...I was in ol' Virginny with my wife for the last few days at Busch Gardens and Kings Dominion. Thank goodness both hotels had CN.

On to my statement...let's not forget...Scalp Trouble (1939)/newprint Slightly Daffy (1944) has exactly the same thing, or concept, as your example. There are other comparisons, too, but the difference in the "Do-Do" cartoons is that in the final minute and a half, new gags are put in, such as Porky dressing up as a newspaper seller in the original compared to Porky dressing up as a do-do in the revised version.

By the way, why did WB choose to only put 2 credits at the beginning of Dough For The Do-Do?

[Jack]

Perhaps Mel Blanc and Carl Stalling were the only two poeple whom they were obligated to give credit to as part of their contracts. That's all I can think of.



Jack:D

[Sveven Dvorking]

One Froggy Evening (singing is too annoying)
Feed the Kitty (too heartwarming)
basically all remakes especially Tick Tock Tuckered and Dough for the Do-Do

[Emmanuel Cruz]

the worst wb cartoon is gold rush daze. the song (diggin gold for matilda) is so friggin annoying and the gags are lame . also the cartoons with daffy and speedy aren't the greatest except for (everyone gasp) see ya later gladiator. i think its a good cartoon.

Worst WB Cartoon-Gold Rush Daze

[Jack]

basically all remakes especially Tick Tock Tuckered and Dough for the Do-Do

Even "Back Alley Op-Roar?"

Hey cool, I think this is the first thread to get to be 4 pages long!

Jack:D

[PorkyandDaffy]

basically all remakes especially Tick Tock Tuckered and Dough for the Do-Do

I like TICK TOCK TUCKERED even better than the original version since the remake was made around Clampett's true golden age, and when his animation was faster paced and loonier. Besides, I never could stand Gabby. And the ending gag to the remake (Porky shooting the clock with a rifle, and the clock doing a death scene) is better then the one in the original (Porky simply tapping the clock with a mallet).

But I agree, remaking DOUGH FOR THE DO-DO was unneccesary, unless Clampett himself remade it in the mid-40's.

[Thad Komorowski]

Originally posted by PorkyandDaffy


I like TICK TOCK TUCKERED even better than the original version since the remake was made around Clampett's true golden age, and when his animation was faster paced and loonier. Besides, I never could stand Gabby. And the ending gag to the remake (Porky shooting the clock with a rifle, and the clock doing a death scene) is better then the one in the original (Porky simply tapping the clock with a mallet).

But I agree, remaking DOUGH FOR THE DO-DO was unneccesary, unless Clampett himself remade it in the mid-40's.

I like "Tick Tock Tuckered" a lot better too. "Dough for the Do-Do" was most likely started by Clampett before he left WB, and the production was held for a few years before it was completed, in my opinion.

-Thad:D

[Emmanuel Cruz]

Originally posted by Rob
Well, I dislike NELLY'S FOLLY, pretty much ANY Sniffles cartoon that isn't HUSH MY MOUSE, FISH AND SLIPS, and although I know it's popular, THREE LITTLE BOPS. Hard to say if these are the worst though.

Of course the post '64 cartoons are just God awful, but those don't really count.

Yes, Nelly's Folly is garbage, even though I like cartoons with music. The Three Little Bops is a great cartoon. It's my second favorite, tied with Rhapsody in Rivets, and my favorite is What's Opera Doc?

When I was younger, I didn't even know the years of the WB cartoons were made and I still changed Nickeloedeon to another channel when a post 64' cartoon aired! This was about 6 years before I became interested in classic WB cartoons. I even thought they were inferior, especially the Daffy/Speedy Ones.

[Brandon Pierce]

Rabbit Transit is pretty lousy. Also, has anyone mentioned Count Me Out? The only Egghead cartoon that's not funny? Exept for the scene with the ref voiced by Tex Avery.

[Matthew Hunter]

like, wow....time travelling posts! I will, however, defend the
Daffy-Speedy cartoons: They do not ALL suck. SEVERAL suck. There are a few Depatie/Freleng ones that aren't very good, but they're not a total loss. The cartoons where Daffy is too mean (like "Well Worn Daffy") aren't very good, but the characters don't make all that bad a pair. There were just too many Daffy and Speedy cartoons made. Had they slowed down and done half of the cartoons they did with the characters, the result would have been better. I always thought it would have been interesting to see what, say, Chuck Jones would've done with these pairups in the 1950's. When Bill Lava was on vacation Walter Greene did some great music for some of the best in the series. Most of the bad ones came after the 1965-66 time period when DePatie Freleng left and the "new" Warner department started. Bob McKimson's new cartoons were pretty good, and Lovy's own creations were enjoyable, but Lovy's Daffy and Speedy were NOT. These cartoons SUCK, SUCK, SUCK. "See Ya Later Gladiator", "Sky Scraper Caper", "Rodent to Stardom"...to name a few.
-Matthew

[Patrick McCart]

I'm changing my answer (which I made nearly 1/2 a year ago)...

The worst WB cartoon I've seen is....*drum roll*

*more drum roll*




*even more drum roll*


*drum roll and then the sound of a gun firing, then the sound of two drumsticks hitting the ground*

Devil's Feud Cake

I finally saw it and it totally screws up the nature of the Looney Tunes characters. Yosemite Sam isn't really a villian...just a screwball!

[Jack]

Well, I don't know if I'm changing my answer (though, I do sort of like "Rocket Squad" a little more, it's still kinda dull, but it isn't *nearly* as bad as the cartoon I'm about to mention.), but I think the single worst cartoon to be made under the Looney Tune banner is none other than:

"From Hare To Eternity" It's better than some TV cartoons I've seen, but not better than any classic cartoons I've ever seen. Sam shouldn't sing, at least not with an unaccented mumbly voice. The Michigan J. Frog reference is sort of cute, but it always bugged me that they put a tribute to Chuck Jones in a cartoon dedicated to Friz Freleng.

"Dump Patro" comes next. This is ignoring the Daffy-Speedy cartoons because I haven't seen any of them since Nick stopped playing them.

Box Office Bunny gets an honorable mention for the fact that VanCitters has no understanding of the characters, and no sense of comic timing, it's not really an "unfunny" cartoon, it just feels totally wrong. So I'd call this one very mediochre.



Jack :D

[The Dork Knight]

How did you bring this thread back from the dead?

[Jack]

Originally posted by Foley Is Good
How did you bring this thread back from the dead?
Just find an old thread and post a reply to it. A thread here never really "dies" unless it is closed or deleted by a mod or admin.


Jack :D

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by Emmanuel Cruz
Yes, Nelly's Folly is garbage, even though I like cartoons with music. The Three Little Bops is a great cartoon. It's my second favorite, tied with Rhapsody in Rivets, and my favorite is What's Opera Doc?

This gives me an idea...we should do a poll where there is a potentially great cartoon but ends up having a very inferior ending. Rhapsody Rabbit certainly qualifies in that one.

I agree, Nelly's Folly is a disaster, yet it was nominated for an Academy Award! What were those Oscar The Grouch people thinking? I'd rather be Daffy sitting on that egg (with a crocodile hatching)!

[DarthGonzo]

Originally posted by Martin Juneau
My top 3 worst cartoons are on thirteen position: "Bugs unny Nips the Nips". the second position: "Jungle Jitters and the fist position:

HERR MEETS HARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad:

euh...

Woah, someone doesnt like "politically incorrect" cartoons!!

I think Herr Meets Hare is fine. It's not great, but it's okay. I like the scene at the end where Hitler is too busy playing cards that he's unconcerned with being heiled.

[Patrick McCart]

I think Martin may have "worst" as in "most politcally incorrect" with "least good"

Maybe he could clear that up for us (Herr Meets Hare isn't a masterpiece, but there's a few bits that are priceless like Bugs and Goering dancing to Wagner.)

[DarthGonzo]

Originally posted by Martin Juneau
It's more a copy of What's Opera, Doc?, so it's great!!!!!!! :)

Actually, its the other way around. Herr Meets Hare did Wagner first!

[J Lee]

And also, there was a bit Freleng and Maltese came up with for "Herr Meets Hare" about a missed left turn in Albuquerque that Bugs got a little milage out of over the years. Hard to count any cartoon that originated that gag as being the all time worst WB short...

[angilbas]

"Cat's Paw" didn't provoke much laughter from me, but held my interest throughout. Until I watched this, I thought "sticktoitiveness" was of much more recent origin (having become popular with sportscasters in my area over the past 5 years or so).

I sort of like "Nelly's Folly." It's a stylish one-shot with some nice singing. Admittedly it's not always upbeat, but is fairly successful as a 'different' kind of entertainment.

"Dumb Patrol" lacks originality but is well made for a 1964 release, and vastly superior to the somewhat similar "Just Plane Beep" (1965). I liked the Porky cameo and the veiled reference to Foggy. Bugs's closing remark isn't bad, either.

My picks for worst have Daffy, Speedy and Alex (Lovy) as common denominators: "Go Away Stowaway," "Rodent to Stardom" and "Speedy Ghost to Town."

-Tony

[Pietro]

Here's another WB cartoon that I'm not very fond of, "Buddy Steps Out."
Everything is bad about this one except for the musical score.

-Pietro:D

[Tintin]

I choose "Riff Raffy Daffy", the background are very bad.

[Matthew Hunter]

Whoa, where the hell did this come from? Hey, good topic and all but...let's let dead threads stay dead! Make a new one if you want to discuss the topic again, please. This thread is now closed.
-Matthew