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Wolf Boy2
05-01-2009, 02:31 PM
Since all the talkbacks are for current series, I thought I would start conversation about the classic comics.

Hands down, the best Golden Age series I've ever read is "The Spirit." It is outstandingly amazing. It would be awesome as a 70s or 80s (or modern) work, but forties?! It blows the mind just how innovative Will Eisner was, at the time when Superman and Batman were campy and poorly drawn. It also has the most variety I've ever seen, especially in Eisner's post-war work. The 1946-1952 run of The Spirit is, IMO, Eisner's magnum opus. Truly ahead of it's time -- hell, truly ahead of OUR time.

Jack Kirby's run on "Fantastic Four" is a favorite of mine, but it's so widely celebrated in fan circles that I'm not gonna moon over it here because you've probably heard it all already. This is the series that made Marvel great, and the first 3 Essentials volumes are literally essential. The evolution of Kirby's art style from good to great is most evident in FF. At the beginning, his art is still very rough and "golden age" looking. But by the end of Volume One, he had hit his stride, achieving a ballance between realism and minimalism.

Larry Hama's "G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero" run was also great. IDW is putting them out in recolored trades, and they look fantastic. Granted, the art wasn't always top-notch, but the stories and characters mostly made up for it. Volume One of the TPBs is a mixed bag, like most first volumes. The first two stories are awesome (especially issue #2, which introduces Kwinn the Eskimo; one of my favorite endings of any comic). While the technology is pretty campy, it sets the stage well. Volume Two is pure, undiluted awesome. A story arc is built and paid off, making the whole volume (minus the first and last stories) a single, cinematic graphic novel. The death of ***** was very tragic and a powerfull moment. Volume Three is not as good, but it contains the famous "Silent Interlude" (told without any words) and the two-part origin of Snake Eyes. Duke and Roadbock are also introduced, saving the Joes from an attack on ****** *****'s funeral (vol. 3 had a heavy death toll of 4 main characters). GI Joe also had strong female characters and subtle romantic elements, and it attracted a female audience (which is rare, for a war comic).

Simon Furman's "The Transformers" (both his US and UK work). Transformers was a mediocre comic under writer Bob Budiansky, not great but not totally sucking either. But while the US series was just making the mark, the UK series was turning this toy commercial into a genuine fantasy epic. Simon Furman saved Transformers from itself, developing the characters and mythology into something that rivaled anything Marvel and DC were doing at the time. Originally part of the Marvel universe, Furman gave Transformers it's own complete, self-contained mythology. Furman took Unicron, a 2-bit Galactus rip-off from the cartoon movie, and made him into a fallen God and an integral part of the Transformers history. His run on the US series turned a faltering title into a cosmic epic rivaling "Crisis on Infinite Earths" (but it was all told in a single series without any crossover nonsense). Granted, the series had little to no romance or female characters, yet oddly enough, a lot of girls wrote into the letters page and enjoyed the series.

Wolf Boy2
05-03-2009, 11:59 PM
What, NO ONE has favorite classic series they want to talk about? :sad:

Kids today. No respect for history.

Antiyonder
05-04-2009, 12:40 AM
The follow:

Captain Atom (1986 Series): Story and characters are exciting, plus most of the series was done by Greg Weisman and Cary Bates.

Fantastic Four (Defalco's run from #350-416): In a decade where the majority of Marvel's material was grim and gritty, Tom D's run on Fantastic Four maintain some sense of fun despite the more serious dark moments.


But Classic Talkbacks can be made as long as you contribute to them. Any particular that you want to do or want me to put up?

Prof. Mecavio
05-04-2009, 05:37 AM
Of the top of my head:

*Jacobs' Blake & Mortimer: Possibly my favorite comic ever; fantastic stories, imbued with an atmosphere so thick that you could cut it with a knife and great artwork. Even the weaker stories are worth reading at least once.

*Franquin's Spirou: Like Barks and Gottfredson, Franquin didn't create the main characters in the comics he began to work with, but he was the one who built up an entire world around them. During his run on "Spirou", Franquin gave us such unforgettable characters as the genius scientist the Count of Champignac, Zorglub, perhaps the most sympathetic of all would-be world conquerors and last, but not least, the fantastic Marsupilami. The real Marsupilami mind you, not that imposter that Disney took under it's wings in the 90's.

*Raymond's Rip Kirby: By far, my favorite comic created by Alex Raymond, the stories are far superior to those in his most famous work, "Flash Gordon" and the art is first-class. Hands down, one of the finest mystery comics ver made.

*Gottfredson's Mickey: No disrepect meant for the great Carl Barks (who created my favorite "Disney" character), but I have a slight preference for the "Mickey Mouse" comic-strips drawn by Floyd Gottfredson. Gottfredson's Mickey was a pretty interesting character, who had adventures all over the globe, searching for treasures and fighting gangsters, Nazis and some of the most colorful supervillains seen in comics.

Wolf Boy2
05-04-2009, 01:17 PM
But Classic Talkbacks can be made as long as you contribute to them. Any particular that you want to do or want me to put up?
Well, first I wanted to get a feel for what other ToonZoners were reading before I posted a talkback for something that only I liked.

I'll be honest, I've never heard of the stuff you guys mentioned (except for the DeFalco run of Fantastic Four). Older stuff doesn't get the same disscussion/promotion that a lot of new stuff does, so I thought we could also reccomend titles.

Antiyonder
05-04-2009, 06:33 PM
Well, first I wanted to get a feel for what other ToonZoners were reading before I posted a talkback for something that only I liked.

I'll be honest, I've never heard of the stuff you guys mentioned (except for the DeFalco run of Fantastic Four). Older stuff doesn't get the same disscussion/promotion that a lot of new stuff does, so I thought we could also reccomend titles.

Like I said before, you're more than welcome to make a talkback for any comic series/run that you think merits discussion.

On that note, I'm probably going to put up a talkback for the aforementioned Captain Atom series in July to coincide with the release of Gargoyles Clan Building Volume 2 (since as I mentioned Weisman's involvement with CA).