South Park - "The Coon" - Talkback [3/18]

[Space Cadet]

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A new episode of South Park airs tonight at 10 PM Eastern on Comedy Central. Tonight's episode is episode 183. Here is the synopsis:


A "Coon" rises from the trash and takes its place as a lone vigilante who wipes out crime in the town of South Park.

[DeanBurrito25]

That plot sounds.......interesting.
I haven't watched South Park in a while, and I think a fresh episode will be good to wet my tastes. :)

[Desensitized]

Hope it's good and not another More Crap, or Million Little Fibers. Sub par episodes delivered after great ones.

[Nel]

Watchmen parody? Or Dark Knight (w/ Cartman's throaty voice)?

[Naruto D.Luffy]

Is Cartman doing a Watchman or Dark Knight parody?

[Senira]

A Watchmen/Batman spoof? South Park, there are days when I love you. This is one of them.

[Bloody Marquis]

Is Cartman doing a Watchman or Dark Knight parody?
Seems like a mix of both.

[warnerbroman]

that an awesome pic of obama change poster

[Space Cadet]

Watchmen parody? Or Dark Knight (w/ Cartman's throaty voice)?

It looks like there is some The Spirit mixed in there.

[Naruto D.Luffy]

Is it me or does the news scene kind of resemble this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nda_OSWeyn8

[Desensitized]

Great so far, I wonder who Mysterion is?

[garfield15]

I hadn't read the plot for this episode first but the exact moment Cartman started talking, I knew where this was going.

[tb4000]

They're doing both...Watchmen for the narration, TDK for the whole Coon motif.

That amateur sketch was off the chain. :sweat:

[TnAdct1]

Is it me or does the news scene kind of resemble this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nda_OSWeyn8 It's supposed to be a parody of that (at least the black dude part). People were talking about it on the South Park Studios site when the clip was previewed the past few days.

[warnerbroman]

it kenny I bet

[xokxtrunks]

Chaos!

[Tobias]

My guess is that Mysterion is either Kenny or Craig.

PROFFESSOR CHAOS! YES!

[Nel]

My bet is also on Kenny.

"If I were unmasked, I'd stop being a symbol." We've seen Kenny unmasked before, but the line fits the most. And this matter deserves no more analytical thinking, lol

[Bloody Marquis]

LOL at Bruce Vilanch and Harvey Fierstein.

[Desensitized]

Actually, he does kinda sound like Kenny.

[garfield15]

I'm guessing Kenny or it could be Stan. But hey, they could come out of left field and say its Bebe or something.

[warnerbroman]

this town is full of morons

[Naruto D.Luffy]

When did Chaos get popular?

[warnerbroman]

When did Chaos get popular?when order got boring

[Nel]

lmao They would pull that crap. :D

[garfield15]

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMNNNN!!!!

(insert more expletives here)

Good episode nonetheless.

[tb4000]

Haha, and so they pull the typical cartoon "screw you" gag. Funny.

[TnAdct1]

Outside of showing that Kyle was not Mysterion, what was the point of that scene between the two?

[SirLemming]

Standard South Park parody episode. Nothing really surprising.

[Desensitized]

Well, we know it's not Kyle.

But maybe there are hints in the episode that show who it might be, like the chart on Professor Chaos' wall.

Looks like a definite rewatch for me. :)

[Tobias]

It had to have been Stan or Kenny (most likely Kenny). Who else would have gone to Kyle for help?

[garfield15]

Outside of showing that Kyle was not Mysterion, what was the point of that scene between the two?
To tease us some more.

I hope Mysterion makes a reappearance.

[btv]

This season really has my hopes up. Both this and "The Ring" are hilarious, whereas last season started out fairly average and just stayed that way... I really hope this continues from here on out, because I haven't laughed this hard with South Park in ages.

A+ For The Coon
A For The Ring

Also maybe this season there's a theme in titles... too early to tell.

[Bubblegum Girl]

I knew the moment when the episode started, Professor Chaos would make an appearance. I love the ending where Mysterion unmasks himself but doesn't take off his hood thus leaving us still wondering who he/she really is.

[DeanBurrito25]

Well, I wasn't able to watch the episode...:sweat:
Maybe tomorrow online.

[VenerableViper]

at the beginning cartman tries talking to kenny and he doesn't answer back
Also maybe its just some unseen kid in the back of the class without a name

if stan or kenny is him, then they shouldn't be appearing in next episode since they should be in jail.

[weirdojace]

Wow, that was really good.

So far the first 2 episodes of season 13 are better than everything in season 12.

[btv]

Wow, that was really good.

So far the first 2 episodes of season 13 are better than everything in season 12.

Agreed.

[Tobias]

at the beginning cartman tries talking to kenny and he doesn't answer back
Also maybe its just some unseen kid in the back of the class without a name

if stan or kenny is him, then they shouldn't be appearing in next episode since they should be in jail.

If we were going by continuity, Kenny shouldn't have been in this episode since he died of Syphilis last week.

[btv]

If we were going by continuity, Kenny shouldn't have been in this episode since he died of Syphilis last week.

Kenny's mom probably had another baby and named it Kenny in honor of the previous Kenny.

[Supernovametalstar]

I'm probably the only one that hasn't thought this season has been any good so far. The episodes have been pretty much one joke spread over a half hour. Almost as bad as an SNL sketch that goes on too long. Maybe next week will be better for me.

[DarthGonzo]

The episodes have been pretty much one joke spread over a half hour.

Agreed.

I mean I do think this episode was funny, but I'll agree that it was just one long joke and if you don't find it funny the entire episode won't work for you.

[TnAdct1]

Agreed.

I mean I do think this episode was funny, but I'll agree that it was just one long joke and if you don't find it funny the entire episode won't work for you. At least South Park puts effort into it, unlike the past two episodes of Family Guy.

[DarthGonzo]

At least South Park puts effort into it, unlike the past two episodes of Family Guy.

Ha ha.

In my experience if you don't think the premise of a South Park episode is funny then the entire entire show ceases to be funny. Even a weak episode of Family Guy will include several fall-on-the-floor funny jokes.

Luckily, I did think tonight's South Park was pretty funny. It wasn't fantastic but it was clever and reasonably entertaining. Season 13 is off to a mcuh better start than season 12, that's for sure.

[nakak]

I just KNEW that the SP creators would screw with us in the big reveal in the end. I just didn't know how.

I liked the scene at the convention, where the hotel staff remembered Cartman from the Ginger rally and the AIDS benefit concert.

I was dumbfounded over the scene with Mysterio and Kyle, though. Really, the only reason it was there was just to show that Kyle was not the masked hero.

[Timmay]

How many of you guys caught the reference to the Alabama Leprechaun in that newscast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nda_OSWeyn8
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nda_OSWeyn8)

[Jayd]

Mysterion was probably Kenny. Eventually we'll know. Maybe we'll have to wait until the second half of the season to find out. I hope it was, which would make it two Kenny episodes in a row.

[HomeMoviesFan]

Mysterion was Clyde. The classroom scene where Cartman is giving his report on the Coon, and he tells Clyde to wake up? Clyde was sleeping due to...that's right! Being out all night as Mysterion.

Thought that was pretty obvious...

[weirdojace]

Yeah, Clyde seems to be the most logical answer. I was hoping for it to be Kenny though.

The reality of it all is probably Matt and Trey knew all along they were gonna use that cop-out ending and actually didn't even come up with anyone in particular.

[Neo Ultra Mike]

I was really hoping that this episode would have a great Watchman Spoof in it. With the idea of a superhero appearing in town and all and Watchmen just appearing. So I am glad for the opening. But I also like how this one had a lot of The Dark Knight as well. With Coon and Mysterion appearing in the police station, the whole blow up the hospital plan, and the entire ending as well. So yeah this was defintley a mix of the two greatest super hero movies as of late. But it was more then that. There were a lot of dramatic camera angles but at heart this was just another great Boys/Cartman focus episode. Aftearll knowing Cartman's ego it'd make sense that he would try and create his own alter ego and cash in off it and obviously being Cartman fail at it when his biggest success in supposedly stopping a rape that was just a couple kissing. I also like how really he had no reason for being the Coon as things are actually more decent are despite his supposed narration. I also liked him calling out Mysterion who had one of the funniest Batman/Rosarack scratchy voice parodies I've heard. Funny stuff with them conversing and Cartman being distracted with a fireworker. And of course there was also great stuff with continuity as well: the airport hilton stuff, Cartman pointing out Fireworks are illegal (from "Summer Sucks") and of course a great appearence of Professor Chaos and General Disaray since hey every good superhero spoof needs a good villian. There was just a lot of funny lines in general: Cartman's appearences in the station, the hilton guy saying that Cartman is kind of a d-bag, the guys reaction to Cartman saying f*g is an insensitve thing to say, Cartman questioning the boys, Coon punching Disaray, everyone thinking Mysterion was dead when he was knocked out and a pretty clever twist on how everyone knows who Mysterion is just by lifting his mask which is a good gag on how pretty much all the boys minus Cartman look alike based on body type yet are really only identifable by voice and attire. But change that and who knows who it is. I also liked the Coon ending as well. I'd say about as solid as the last ep. Could of used a bit more Watchmen mocking IMHO but otherwise excellent stuff.

[Marvin Tikvah]

Eh, the episode seemed really average. At least they didn't lift the plot directly from either movie. There was a nice balance between Watchmen narrative and The Dark Knight allusions.

Figures Mysterion wouldn't be unmasked. I admit I chuckled a bit when he simply removed his masked and everyone seemed shocked. I don't really care if he ever gets revealed though, since he's most likely a one shot guy.

[Master Moron]

Mysterion was Clyde. The classroom scene where Cartman is giving his report on the Coon, and he tells Clyde to wake up? Clyde was sleeping due to...that's right! Being out all night as Mysterion.


I completely forgot about that. Though, I figured it was Clyde just because his voice sounded like his.

[warnerbroman]

Mysterion was Clyde. The classroom scene where Cartman is giving his report on the Coon, and he tells Clyde to wake up? Clyde was sleeping due to...that's right! Being out all night as Mysterion.

Thought that was pretty obvious......too obvious *sifts eyes*

[ABrown]

When did Chaos get popular?

Well, I would guess it was whenever Chaos's first appearance was.

This was a really good episode. Like I always say, South Park is very hit or miss. This one definitely wasn't a miss.

[Radical]

Pretty awesome parody episode,this & The Ring were brilliant:D,I'm loving the 13th season already better than the 12th season:anime:,kind of reminded me of other superhero parody episodes in my favorite shows like Looney Tunes,TMNT,Ducktales,& Doug.

The highlights:
Cool,a Batman/The Watchmen parody:D.
Eric's narration,hahahahaha:p.
The Barack Obama picture,love the color.
Eric Cartman as The Coon,he's playing superhero,neat:p.
The Coon bashing the boyfriend thinking he's a badguy:D.
It's those two funny cops:p.
The Coon appearing in/out in the police station:p.
Eric boring the class,Clyde sleeping,hmmmm.
It's Mysterion,he's awesome & my favorite South Park superhero:anime:.
The Coon guessing who Mysterion is,& calling Kyle a buzz kill,hahahahahaha.
Eric's Coonicon convention.
It's that Airport Hilton guy from the episode:Gingerkids,he knows about Eric Cartman,he cracks me up:p.
Mysterion's popularity in the news which they wonder who he is:D.
The black guy in the news report was so entertaining,hehehehe.
The kids loving Mysterion.
Wendy's appearance,I love her comment:anime:.
Funny that Eric nevered accused Wendy of being Mysterion,hehehehe.
Mysterion's fireworks disappearance on The Coon was awesome.
Yay,it's Butters & Dougie as Professor Chaos & General Disarray,I always love those two playing supervillains,they're entertaining:anime:.
General Disarray attacking The Coon:D,who knew Dougie can fight:eek:.
The Coon along with Professor Chaos wanting to find out who Mysterion is.
Mysterion meeting Kyle.
Professor Chaos's room is so cute/funny:anime:.
The Harvey Fierstein & Bruce Vilanch pictures by Eric's picture=LOL:p.
Butters has The Coon merchandise somewhere:p.
Professor Chaos's announcement on blowing up the hospital(from Family Guy),poor Butters manipulated by Eric Cartman again:p.
General Disarray's comment towards The Coon was awesome/hilarious,that's why I love about Dougie's character.
Professor Chaos's nervousness on Mysterion made me laugh so hard:D:p.
Mysterion vs. Professor Chaos/General Disarray.
Mysterion fell asleep during the battle,hmmmm.
The people calling The Coon Bruce Vilanch,hahahahaha:D:p.
The Coon just hit Professor Chaos,poor Butters,I feel bad for him,but it's so funny:p.
Mysterion is unmasked(except for his hood)& everyone is shocked:eek:,then gets arrested,it's Clyde which it's so obvious:Dwith him sleeping in class pulling an all-nighter & his voice,which you guys are right,he's my favorite minor character already in this episode on wanting to be popular:anime:.
The Coon's great ending,hahahaha:p.

[Mesousa]

How many of you guys caught the reference to the Alabama Leprechaun in that newscast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nda_OSWeyn8
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nda_OSWeyn8)

'"I just wanna know where the gold at!" :p


If we were going by continuity, Kenny shouldn't have been in this episode since he died of Syphilis last week.


Kenny's mom probably had another baby and named it Kenny in honor of the previous Kenny.

Never question South Park's continuty!

Oh, and I will watch it tonight, no school for me (third friday in a row) tomorrow.

[kempobot]

Ha ha.

In my experience if you don't think the premise of a South Park episode is funny then the entire entire show ceases to be funny. Even a weak episode of Family Guy will include several fall-on-the-floor funny jokes.

This is true, but to me Family Guy is just one long blur. It's hard for me to pinpoint which episode a funny gag came from. South Park doesn't have this problem.

[Radical Raven]

This is true, but to me Family Guy is just one long blur. It's hard for me to pinpoint which episode a funny gag came from. South Park doesn't have this problem.

This isn't an argument you want to get into, no matter how polite you stay. DG could probably out-argue Matt & Trey on this point.;)

[Luna]

I thought it was funny...Cartman as "The Coon" was funny,plus,any episode that has Butters as "Professor Chaos" and his friend as "General Disarray" is awesome in my book....Also,loved Mysterion's "reveal" at the end (I figured they'd just cut away,but it makes sense,considering most of the kids are identical when you just see their faces)....

[Mad Mod 49]

All I've got to say is that Cartman does a great Christian Bale Batman imitation. :cool:

[Mesousa]

Usually when I see South Park, there is usually a few miss moments.

This one almost didn't have any of those moments, and this was really a great episode..

Am I the only one that felt that wasn't screwed from the ending? Of course it would be impossible to have a recurring or main character be Mysterion, so a random kid being Mysterion seems like a good idea.

However, this leaves a plothole; why did Mysterion go to Kyle's house?

Anyways, my only problem is that the script was too loose. They don't think of any creative insults or stuff like that, just "hey, let's just call them f-heads or anything that seriously offends people", I know it's South Park, but it's just not well-written sometimes.

[SirLemming]

However, this leaves a plothole; why did Mysterion go to Kyle's house?

Anyways, my only problem is that the script was too loose. They don't think of any creative insults or stuff like that, just "hey, let's just call them f-heads or anything that seriously offends people", I know it's South Park, but it's just not well-written sometimes.
Yeah, I think you're on the mark about that. Most of the dialogue wasn't really clever.

[dth1971]

South Park made fun of the Watchmen, hopefully this season South Park could make fun of Land of the Lost (the upcoming motion picture based on the 1970's Sid and Marty Krofft kid show) as Cartman, Stan, Kyle, Butters, and Kenny go into a IMAGIONATIONLAND style prehistoric world.

[DeanBurrito25]

I saw this episode yesterday...it was ok.
It didn't feel nearly as good as previous episodes, though.
7.5/10

[Super Sonic]

Well, we know it's not Kyle.

But maybe there are hints in the episode that show who it might be, like the chart on Professor Chaos' wall.

Looks like a definite rewatch for me. :)

Al that wall did was cross out the people Mysterion obviously wasn't (Token, Jimmy, and Timmy). No real proof there.

[toonfan2003]

I think you guys are missing the point of the scene with Kyle and Mysterion. Right before that scene Cartman said something to the effect of "I know Mysterion is sitting, plotting his next move", then we go to Kyle sitting there thinking, looking like hes plotting something. That right there makes you think its Kyle. Then Mysterion shows up and we realize its not Kyle.

Does anyone understand the Kyle/Mysterion scene, now?

[Desensitized]

I think you guys are missing the point of the scene with Kyle and Mysterion. Right before that scene Cartman said something to the effect of "I know Mysterion is sitting, plotting his next move", then we go to Kyle sitting there thinking, looking like hes plotting something. That right there makes you think its Kyle. Then Mysterion shows up and we realize its not Kyle.

Does anyone understand the Kyle/Mysterion scene, now?Now it makes sense. It was a 'screw with the audience' moment. Thanks.


Al that wall did was cross out the people Mysterion obviously wasn't (Token, Jimmy, and Timmy). No real proof there.Yeah, I realize that now. I guess there isn't any clue outside of that one classroom scene.

[Master Moron]

Al that wall did was cross out the people Mysterion obviously wasn't (Token, Jimmy, and Timmy). No real proof there.

Yes, but there's also people who weren't on the wall, such as all the girls. I think we can safely assume that none of the girls were Mysterion.

[Mynd Hed]

Not necessarily-- it's entirely possible that, like Cartman, Butters simply assumed incorrectly that Mysterion couldn't be a girl. (Unless someone in the "unmasking" scene at the end specifically referred to Mysterion with a male pronoun-- I'd have to watch it again, I don't recall.)

I think we can assume it's not Wendy, though, because Wendy wouldn't have had to go to Kyle for help; she's plenty smart on her own.

[SirLemming]

I have a feeling not even Matt & Trey know who Mysterion is. It's kind of the whole joke.

[Mynd Hed]

Too true, which is exactly what makes pointless speculation about it so fun, since none of us will ever be definitively proven wrong! (-:

[Dank]

At the end of the episode Cartman says "I knew it was you. Remember, I even said it before?" So it must have been one of the names Cartman said.

[Inkan1969]

The episode took off once Mysterion appeared. Before it was just another Cartman scam episode. It actually reminded me of the ATHF ep, "The Drizzle". But Mysterion turned out to be a great character; he looked out for real crime and he could do the cool superhero bit down pat.

I thought the ending was well played. Mysterion did reveal his face, in a clever satire about how SP faces all look alike. Let's see, Mr. Garrison said he was one of his students, Cartman said he called him out before, and it's obviously not Timmy, Jimmy, or Token. That previous scene indicated that he's not Kyle (though what if they switched costumes after that scene?...) I'm guessing that it's Clyde, followed by Kenny, followed by Stan, and just maybe Wendy.

So why didn't they demand the Coon unmask as well?

[Jayd]

I still think it's Kenny. He probably made up this alter ego just so he wouldn't be just a prop. And he died and then came back to life in one scene. Only Kenny could have done that. I rule out Clyde because the scene where he's sleeping in class came before Mysterion's first appearance.

[SirLemming]

If I had to guess who Mysterion is...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/SirLemming/Mysterion.jpg

It might as well be.

[Master Moron]

If I had to guess who Mysterion is...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/SirLemming/Mysterion.jpg

It might as well be.

Is that kid in their class? At most elementary schools kids interact with kids in other grades. Anyway, I still think it's Clyde, as Mysterion's voice sounds almost exactly like Clyde's. I really don't think it was Kenny, Stan, or Wendy simply because Mysterion's voice didn't sound like any of them.

[SirLemming]

Anyway, I still think it's Clyde, as Mysterion's voice sounds almost exactly like Clyde's.
Trey and Matt aren't exactly known for their incredible range.