Simpsons

[Darth_Zilla]

To you think it would do well on Adult swim

[chdr]

Mike Lazzo himself has said that he'd love to show The Simpsons on Adult Swim, but they don't have enough money to acquire it.

[DarthGonzo]

Prolly, but it's not happening. AS can't afford it, as much as they want it.

[Gonzales]

It's not going to happen.

[TKnHappyNess]

Seeing as how it airs pretty much everywhere in syndication, what would Adult Swim do that would make The Simpsons better to watch?

[creativerealms]

Everywhere? Fox keeps it just on Fox, hell they don't even air the Simpsons on cable channels they own. Sure it airs at least three times aday on their channels but it's hardly everywhere.

[Gonzales]

Fox isn't the only place it airs.

[creativerealms]

Fox isn't the only place it airs.

It the only place it airs where I live. It only airs on Fox Chicogo where I live and only twice day and never on weekends (Expect new episodes) I realize that things may be different at other parts of the country.

[jbanks97]

Seeing as how it airs pretty much everywhere in syndication, what would Adult Swim do that would make The Simpsons better to watch?


I haven't lived many different places, but every place I've seen that runs the Simpsons in syndication usually runs one to two seasons on repeat. Usually it's the most recent 2-3 seasons if anything. I haven't seen one of the seasons available on DVD in syndication for years.

That being said-Simpsons would be awesome but they can't afford it. (Considering they couldn't afford to keep futurama which is almost certainly much cheaper)

[Old Guy]

Simpsons airs twice a day on one of my local affilates. Aside from there it hasn't aired in any other channel that I've noticed. So, it airing on Adult Swim would be good. Atleast it'll air at night instead of the middle of the afternoon.

[Tobias]

Give it a few years. At some point there's going to be so many episodes that there won't be enough time in the syndicated market for the whole series and Fox is going to have to find new places to air the older episodes.

What they could do is let AS purchase the show a few seasons at a time. Like let them buy Season 1 - 5 for now, then let them air those for a few years until they get enough to buy Seasons 6 - 10, and just purchase the show a little at a time.

Or go in with Cartoon Network, TNT, and TBS and share the airing rights to cut the cost.

[Master Moron]

Seeing as how it airs pretty much everywhere in syndication, what would Adult Swim do that would make The Simpsons better to watch?

The syndicated episodes are aired out of order and have lots of time cuts. I never bother to watch the syndicated episodes because of this.

[Ishtar]

It would be nice. I'd love to see re-runs of the older seasons on AS, especially if they, you know, aired them in order and didn't make time cuts. I think selling the show by Season would probably be the easiest and cheapest way for them to get the Simpsons.

[warnerbroman]

I saw it fits more on CN I mean kids know of it to I mean how many AS show have been made into kids meals more than once I could go on but I am lazy

[gtadbzman]

Some day AS may get the Simpsons. They may look to aquire it once they stop making new episodes. Unfortunately, it doesn't look to be stopping any time soon. :sad: Right now AS can't afford it though but I would love to see it on AS.

[ChowderFan]

They should replace King of the hill with Simpsons. I hate KOTH so damn much.

[DarthGonzo]

They should replace King of the hill with Simpsons. I hate KOTH so damn much.

AS long as they can't get a hold of Simpsons that's not going to happen.

And please don't make comments like that without explaining why you feel that way.

[ChowderFan]

AS long as they can't get a hold of Simpsons that's not going to happen.

And please don't make comments like that without explaining why you feel that way.

1. Horrid animation
2. Horrible voice acting
3. Terrible writing.
4. Taking the 10:00 and 10:30 timeslot.
5. I don't see any comedy in the show.

And notice that I said the words They should. I looked at the thread and knew that they coulden't afford Simpsons, it's just a wish.

[DarthGonzo]

1. Horrid animation
2. Horrible voice acting
3. Terrible writing.
4. Taking the 10:00 and 10:30 timeslot.
5. I don't see any comedy in the show.

The reason why King of the Hill shouldn't be on AS is because it's way more intelligent than anything else AS shows, but in a very adult sort of way that I think a lot of people who watch AS/CN can't appreciate.

[Dudley]

Besides overseas, I never seen the Simpsons air on any other network besides a FOX affiliate.
Sometimes I wonder if they keep the show FOX exclusive, because it's the only show they have that keeps bringing in ratings.

[Dr.Pepper]

I think that it would make a great addition to AS, but I know that they lack the money.

Off-topic: I have never seen Simpsons anywhere but FOX, so I am guessing that the syndicated episodes must be on my local FOX channel.

[JTurner954]

Would it do well on AS? Yes. Would they actually get it someday? Probably not, unless shows like Robot Chicken and Family Guy do well enough that they can afford it in the future.

I do find it funny, however, that Adult Swim has had The Oblongs, King of the Hill, Mission Hill, and Futurama - all shows that use past and current Simpsons staff members. Why not continue the tradition and get the rights to The Critic next?

[Space Cadet]

The Simpsons hasn't aired on a cable channel yet. It's only aired in syndication. I'm surprised it hasn't made its way to cable yet, seeing as how the other FOX animated shows have.

I would like to see it on AS. It would probably air in the 10 PM spot, before King of the Hill. I wouldn't object to CN airing the series, although I doubt it would happen.

[warnerbroman]

The Simpsons hasn't aired on a cable channel yet. FX?

[Old Guy]

FX?

I don't recall it ever airing there. :confused:

[Gonzales]

He's right, it has never aired on cable. The reason for that being that 20th Television makes too much money doing broadcast syndication, so they don't want competition.

[Classic Speedy]

1. Horrid animation Not horrid animation. Just very vanilla and realistic (not cartoony). Horrid animation would be a show where the character models fluctuate so that everything looks incredibly inconsistent and lumpy.
2. Horrible voice acting How so? The actors are pefect for their parts, often have great delivery of their lines, and play off each other well. About the only thing I couldn't debate with you is if you find the voices themselves annoying; that's a subjective thing. But personally, I find Dale's nasal voice hilarious, for example.
3. Terrible writing. Again, specific examples? This sort of comment is flamebait because some of us happen to like the show and when you throw out a comment like that with no explanation, it only serves to anger them because they don't know WHY you think it has terrible writing. It's just seen as an unnecessary slam agains it.
4. Taking the 10:00 and 10:30 timeslot. What would you have rather seen in that spot? (besides The Simpsons, I mean)
5. I don't see any comedy in the show. Fine, but clearly there are some who DO find comedy in the show.

[Space Cadet]

FX?

Nope. However, The Simpsons Movie will air there in the future.

[creativerealms]

ChowderFan while the other comments are just your opinion and I can deal with that number four is unfair. King of the Hill did not "Take" that time spot Adult Swim in general did and would have gotten that time spot at the start of 2009 regardless what went there. That is a dumb reason to hate the show, and one which is not it's fault ether.

[TKnHappyNess]

Everywhere? Fox keeps it just on Fox, hell they don't even air the Simpsons on cable channels they own. Sure it airs at least three times aday on their channels but it's hardly everywhere.

Other than the Fox affiliates, it's on 4 channels in Canada. Global, CBC, OMNI 1, and Comedy Network. It did air on Teletoon at one time.

[creativerealms]

Other than the Fox affiliates, it's on 4 channels in Canada. Global, CBC, OMNI 1, and Comedy Network. It did air on Teletoon at one time.

I was just talking about in America I know that in other countries things are different. In America Fox is very tightfisted with the Simpsons.

[Blackstar]

1. Horrid animation
2. Horrible voice acting
3. Terrible writing.
4. Taking the 10:00 and 10:30 timeslot.
5. I don't see any comedy in the show.

Adult Swim would have gotten the 10pm time slot, King of the Hill or no King of the Hill. That's not a good reason to hate the show. The rest is strictly opinion, so I'm not going to argue that.

Getting back to The Simpsons, Williams Street had the option to obtain it a while back. They had a choice between Simpsons and Futurama, but they could only afford 1, so they went with Futurama. Even if The Simpsons ever does come to AS, I can't say that I would watch it. I don't think that I could bear to see those crudely drawn and written early episodes again.

[Master Moron]

Besides overseas, I never seen the Simpsons air on any other network besides a FOX affiliate.
Sometimes I wonder if they keep the show FOX exclusive, because it's the only show they have that keeps bringing in ratings.

Ummm...what? 24, House, Bones, American Idol, and Family Guy all get higher ratings than The Simpsons.

[Darth_Zilla]

i like the idea someone said early which is to get in blocks.For example seasons 1-5 then 6-10,then 11-15 and then 16-20.Also the way things are going i would not be shocked if simpsons started to air on normal cartoonetwork.

[warnerbroman]

i like the idea someone said early which is to get in blocks.For example seasons 1-5 then 6-10,then 11-15 and then 16-20.Also the way things are going i would not be shocked if simpsons started to air on normal cartoonetwork.that's what I was sayinhg

[Yusuke Urameshi]

i like the idea someone said early which is to get in blocks.For example seasons 1-5 then 6-10,then 11-15 and then 16-20.Also the way things are going i would not be shocked if simpsons started to air on normal cartoonetwork.

Simpsons has way too many adult references to be playing on Cartoon Network, it would fit more into the adult swim lineup.

I mean, it COULD happen, but honestly, I don't think CartoonNetwork would take the time, money, and effort to aquire the show.

but adult swim would.

[warnerbroman]

Simpsons has way too many adult references to be playing on Cartoon Network, it would fit more into the adult swim lineup.

I mean, it COULD happen, but honestly, I don't think CartoonNetwork would take the time, money, and effort to aquire the show.

but adult swim would.true but kids watch this show alot too unlike other how may toy of the simpsons there are?

[chdr]

My town's middle school has a student-created South Park mural in it (it also has a large DBZ mosaic o.O). That doesn't make South Park a kids' show.

[SuperMegaHyper]

It's possible they could aquire it, but they simply don't have enough of this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xell1jadxFg&feature=related

It had to be done.:p

[Yusuke Urameshi]

My town's middle school has a student-created South Park mural in it (it also has a large DBZ mosaic o.O). That doesn't make South Park a kids' show.


Exactly, most of the reason why south park is so popular is because the story itself is just more appealing to teens, but if your an executive over at cartoon network, you have to make decisions thats going to be beneficial (and acceptable) towards children, and even simpsons still has the occasional "swear" or "naughty" thing that wouldnt be suitable for a CN audience. And honestly, its not like its a must have show, CN isnt going to be crying if they dont get it, and neither is adult swim, eventually down the line it might get aquired by AS, but as for now, I don't see it happening, just because the condition AS is in financially, and that they just aquired KOTH, which is a big show in its own regard.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

It's possible they could aquire it, but they simply don't have enough of this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xell1jadxFg&feature=related

It had to be done.:p


Wow, they took a pink floyd song and made me laugh.

[warnerbroman]

My town's middle school has a student-created South Park mural in it (it also has a large DBZ mosaic o.O). That doesn't make South Park a kids' show.true but did south park have kids meals based on them cereals, childrens bath soap, game that were e for everyone, pre-school books,comics and ect,ect...?

[Darth_Zilla]

thats why i was thinking the show could be on normal CN.Also lets not forget the BK happy meals.As well as the butterfinger commercial which did air on CN when the commercial came out

[Dr.Pepper]

true but did south park have kids meals based on them cereals, childrens bath soap, game that were e for everyone, pre-school books,comics and ect,ect...?
Simpsons had pre-school books?

[warnerbroman]

Simpsons had pre-school books?well books for little kids I looked it up

[Master Moron]

The Simpsons also appeared on Sesame Street at one point.

[mumbo]

Really? The Simpsons doesn't air on cable in the US? I didn't know that. In Canada it's syndicated on like five or six different channels, and depending on the channel, there aren't any time cuts either.

But yeah there's a few Simpsons things for kids. I remember in elementary school there was a Simpsons book or two in the book order.

[Tobias]

There was also that massive Simpsons action figure line that went at least 12 waves of characters before finally dying out. I think virtually every character made it into the line, as well as an infinite number of Homer variations.

[Brian_Griffin]

what's funny about this is that this is the only show from fox that hasn't been syndicated for cable, just other local networks, FX doesn't even run this

[Silverstar]

what's funny about this is that this is the only show from fox that hasn't been syndicated for cable, just other local networks, FX doesn't even run this

Why does The Simpsons have to air on cable? It airs just about everywhere else.

[Tobias]

Why does The Simpsons have to air on cable? It airs just about everywhere else.

Where's everywhere else? Where I'm at it only airs on Fox Mon - Fri for an hour at 6 and then the Sunday night episode. Family Guy and King of the Hill- shows with far less episodes- air on more channels and in a lot more timslots.

[Darth_Zilla]

I agree with tobias thats how its where i live they air at 5 everyday from mon through friday.Its never seasons 1-10 of the eps are from season They are run a two seasons rotation.Currently it being seasons 18-19

[Jeff Harris]

1. Horrid animationOn the contrary. King of the Hill is one of the better animated shows on the air and not solely reliant on static head shots in each and every scene, pointless scrolling scenes (either horizontally or diagonally) to obscure the fact that it's just a static head shot (Japanese animation for television gets away with that a lot), or a lot of jerkiness. It's not "cartoony" or wacky, but it's a good series.If Satoshi Kon did an American show about an American family, it would probably look like King of the Hill.


2. Horrible voice actingI've heard much, much, much worse. The thing about that show is the roles work. They got a perfect cast that fits so well and so constant over the years. Slightly off topic, did anybody see that table read on Ace of Cakes on Food Network the other night?


3. Terrible writing.There has been episodes that are hit or miss, but there's nothing wrong with the writing, plus, continuity actually works on that show . . . still, Bobby Hill's perpetually 12 and prepubescent. That's the only thing I don't quite get.


4. Taking the 10:00 and 10:30 timeslot.Would you rather see Assy McGee or Delocated in those slots? That's an asinine reason for hating the show.


5. I don't see any comedy in the show.Comedy is in the eye of the beholder, and everybody's tastes differ. I don't see any comedy in Xavier: Renegade Angel, but obviously somebody does.

[DarthGonzo]

This is my take on it, and apologies to anyone who may take offense to it.

The humor in King of the Hill isn't the type that appeals to your typical Toon Zone audience, or at the very least an audience who prefers the type of humor from Simpsons, Family Guy, or whatever nonsense Adult Swim airs these days. I myself have only come to truly appreciate this by watching the show as much as I have in the past couple of months.

What separates King of the Hill from the rest of the programming on FOX is that it doesn't go for the easy joke or the quick belly laugh. It doesn't need production numbers, wacky animation, pop culture references, scatalogical humor or OOC moments in order to be funny. Mike Judge and the rest of the crew behind KOTH have spent time setting up these characters and figuring out all the things that make them tick. Human nature is studied to a deeper degree than "these are the funny things people say and the funny ways they say them" - which is something Family Guy often indulges in. No, KOTH requires you to get to know these characters, their histories and backstories in order to get a lot of the humor.

Hank is who he is because of how he grew up and in his interactions with the people around him, who also all have backstories of their own. Same with Peggy, or Luanne or Bill. KOTH is also smart enough to believe in the "show and not tell" approach which cripples the Simpsons these days. It's also smart enough to realize that continiuty is a very important thing, and can often be used for great character development. The birth of Luanne's baby a few weeks ago would never have had the impact on me that it did if we didn't already follow this character through all of life's ups and downs. You can't do this with the Simpsons anymore because every character has a flippant, cynical attitude about their lives these days and most things reset at the end of the episode.

Perhaps I'm rambling. Perhaps there's no easy way to explain why KOTH works so well, but it does. But it only works if you're willing to invest the time in getting to know the show and understand the characters. Most people aren't willing to do that, so the humor is lost on them.

Then again, considering Adult Swim aims most of their comedy programming towards people who think garabage like Renagade Angel and Delocated is hilarious I can truly say I'm not shocked.

[chdr]

Then again, considering Adult Swim aims most of their comedy programming towards people who think garabage like Renagade Angel and Delocated is hilarious I can truly say I'm not shocked.On that note, I've always taken offense when people say that Tim and Eric or Xavier are "stupid stoner humor" shows. Personally, I'm tired of shows being labeled as "stoner humor" just because they are different. "Dude, Where's My Car?" is stoner humor. "Tim and Eric" is not.

[Master Moron]

Perhaps I'm rambling. Perhaps there's no easy way to explain why KOTH works so well, but it does. But it only works if you're willing to invest the time in getting to know the show and understand the characters. Most people aren't willing to do that, so the humor is lost on them.


I don't think that has anything to do with it. I've watched King of the Hill since it first aired and I still don't like it.

[DarthGonzo]

I don't think that has anything to do with it. I've watched King of the Hill since it first aired and I still don't like it.

To be fair, your opinion is always contrary to the majority.

And why not explain why you don't like? I'm also a little confused. You've watched it since it first aired and you still don't like it? If you don't like it why are you still watching it?

[Rolling Cloud]

And why not explain why you don't like? I'm also a little confused. You've watched it since it first aired and you still don't like it? If you don't like it why are you still watching it?

I could ask you the same thing about the Simpsons. :p

[DarthGonzo]

I could ask you the same thing about the Simpsons. :p

Haha.

Well I liked (make that loved) it at one time. Seasons 1-8 of the Simpsons is my favorite TV show, period. I grew up with the show and to a certain extent I still really care about. It's just a shame the show itself has sucked for so long now.

However, it sounds to me like MM has never liked KOTH, so there's a difference.

[Master Moron]

To be fair, your opinion is always contrary to the majority.

What majority? The majority of Toonzone? Toonzone itself is a minority so when your opinion is contrary to the majority of Toonzone it doesn't really mean anything in terms of your opinions lining up with the general population.


And why not explain why you don't like? I'm also a little confused. You've watched it since it first aired and you still don't like it? If you don't like it why are you still watching it?

Because it's in between The Simpsons and Family Guy. Well, actually, I usually watch Desperate Housewives if it's new and then watch Family Guy on hulu the next day, but regardless, I don't see the point in turning off my TV for a half hour. It's not like I make an appointment to watch King of the Hill. I remember there was a stretch of a few years where Fox moved King of the Hill to a new night(Thursday, I think). I obviously didn't follow it to it's new night, so there must be several seasons worth of King of the Hill that I haven't seen. I didn't start watching again till they moved it back to Sunday. And if I miss it I don't bother watching it on hulu like I would The Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad.

It's kind of the same way with How I Met Your Mother. I like watching The Big Bang Theory and 24 on Monday, so that leaves a half an hour in between The Big Bang Theory and 24. I hate How I Met Your Mother, but well, it's on, so I sometimes watch it anyway.