This Chris Brown/Rihanna thing [Archive]

DisneyBoy

02-15-2009, 01:01 PM

Ordinarily, I wouldn't create a thread about something like this...but every time I come online, there's some new piece of info being shoved down my throat.

http://ca.music.yahoo.com/read/news/61984152

Here's Chris' Dad begging, in his own fatherly way, for fans not to abandon Chris and his music in the times to come. Of all the info we've been flooded with in the past week or so...this is certainly the first that actually made any sort of impact on me (because really none of this is my business).

The article refers to him as the "biological father", which makes me wonder if there's some sort of estrangement. In any case, you can totally tell from his words how heartbroken he is about this (the guy is a corrections officer!). Unlike other celeb parents who try to vie for attention, this just felt like a guy trying to do some damage control for his son. Rather noble.

Supernovametalstar

02-15-2009, 01:56 PM

From what I've heard about this story, it sounded like Brown strangled Rihanna. In which case if this is true, Chris Brown deserves no sympathy or respect and I would hope no one buys his crummy music again. But people forgave R. Kelly, and it sounds like people are forgiving Michael Jackson for the things he's done, so the really big fans of his will forgive this too.

I suppose I should be more objective but I just don't feel that way when it comes to domestic violence...allegedly, allegedly.

LinkG07

02-15-2009, 01:59 PM

Innocent till proven guilty... then we stop buying his music.

Light Lucario

02-15-2009, 04:32 PM

So that's what he did? I heard about it when I was flipping through channels earlier this week, but I didn't understand the situation. If he did strangle Rihanna, then I would think he should have to be proven guilty and have a fair punishment for the crime. I've never actually listened to his music, but I do agree that how his father is asking people to not stop listening to his music and standing up for his son is pretty nice. You don't normally see that in many celebrity parents nowadays.

NewcomerDC

02-15-2009, 04:34 PM

It's funny how we all wanna hate on Chris Brown but there are still people including some of my friends on Facebook who believe that he didn't do anything wrong. I wish they could open their eyes and see that he should do his time if he did hurt Rihanna.

Mek

02-15-2009, 04:47 PM

I'm sorry, but physical violence -be it against a woman OR a man- is just wrong and inexusable, no matter how many ways 'til Sunday you spin it.

I like Rhianna, so naturally I'm on her side.

NewcomerDC

02-15-2009, 04:53 PM

I'm sorry, but physical violence -be it against a woman OR a man- is just wrong and inexusable, no matter how many ways 'til Sunday you spin it.

I like Rihanna, so naturally I'm on her side.
I feel the same and until all of the CB fans get it through their heads that not everyone is a little goody-two shoes, the more they will realize that maybe they should support in CB getting help for his abusive problems.

The Clown Prince

02-15-2009, 04:55 PM

I'm going to jump in here early and just say that due to the topic of this thread, PLEASE keep it civil and treat this subject and this thread with the responsibilty that it deserves.

Thank you to everyone in advance.

NewcomerDC

02-15-2009, 05:18 PM

So we have a new news story about Rihanna's recupperation according to her father.

http://www.popeater.com/music/article/rihanna-bruises-beating/344158

.bg

02-15-2009, 05:24 PM

I've never bought Chris Brown's "music" anyway, so no skin off my wallet.

Regardless, Chris Brown did a horrible thing, and he deserves every minute of jail time and every lost cent in revenue for it.

Wounded_Dragon

02-15-2009, 05:43 PM

Guilty or not, what disturbs me is how many people online defend Brown by saying "she must've deserved it," usually without any evidence except something invented online.

Terror of Death

02-15-2009, 08:03 PM

NewcomerDC

02-15-2009, 09:32 PM

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. How does someone deserve to be abused? If I was a celebrity I'd hate to have fans like that.
Well CB will still have some regardless of what happens. Just look what happened with R. Kelly.

DisneyBoy

02-15-2009, 10:42 PM

That quote from Rihanna's Dad about her "standing up for women all over the world" bugs me, because when a celebrity goes through something hard, sometimes their supporters or they themselves make it out as though they're recovering for the good of the world. Stand up for yourself, of course, and maybe in the future do something proactive to help others, for sure...

...but don't buy into this media storm desperate to make some money off of your recent pain, and possible desire to exact revenge via public humiliation of your attacker. Go to court, tell your story, stand up for yourself like that.

I guess I'm just wishing that people, even in their darkest moments, would have dignity about them, and not stoop to making a private problem a huge scandal. She hasn't necessarily done that mind you, I'm just looking ahead at the promised dishing he father thinks she'll be likely to do.

I don't know what Tina Turner said in interviews about her bad times with Iyke, but I think she kept it mostly under her hat and just moved on. Hopefully, Rihanna will go that route as well. I look forward to not having to hear more about this story, and Chris Brown getting to deal with his actions in a way that doesn't further publicize them.

Anyways, we'll see how it goes.

Chris Sanders MSX

02-16-2009, 10:02 AM

It's hard to know how to fall on this because everything we know is alleged. The only facts we actually have are that Chris brown assaulted someone.

Media outlets and unnamed sources are the ones that say it was Rhianna, and even if it is her, we don't know the context or what actually happened. Nothing official has stated that he bit, strangled, or hit he. But this is all stuff we heard.

Anything could have happened, they could of been intoxicated. He may of been defending himself, and host of other alternative situations. So before we jump to conclusions, why don't we just wait until actual confirmed facts come out.

Chris himself recently stated as we've already read that the reports on blogs and news sources are wrong. While he did likely assault Rhianna, we have no idea if it was in defense or out of a reaction to something, which is no excuse (because no matter what you don't hit a woman) but if those come out as facts it doesn't paint him as the monster many people have been vying to make him.

TheTerror

02-16-2009, 10:12 AM

Well it was only one black eye, so he must have only had to tell her what he needed to tell her once. Just kidding. Unless she attacked him or tried to kill him or something then he should have just kept his cool and took a walk or something, he didn't need to have to do what he did to her, or what he is accused of doing to her. If she was hitting him, maybe he should have tried to restrain her instead of hitting back unless she had a weapon or something.

I have been hit by ex girlfriends before and I NEVER hit back, I would restrain them if need be or I would walk off some steam. BUT if a woman ever tried to kill me or tried to attack me with a major weapon like a knife or baseball bat or something, I would do what was needed to be done to stop the attack.

DisneyBoy

02-16-2009, 02:13 PM

I have been hit by ex girlfriends before and I NEVER hit back, I would restrain them if need be or I would walk off some steam. BUT if a woman ever tried to kill me or tried to attack me with a major weapon like a knife or baseball bat or something, I would do what was needed to be done to stop the attack.

Go ahead and call me crazy, but this out-dated misogynistic notion that woman are allowed to hit men because they're the weaker sex and more prone to emotional outbursts is an absurd culturally accepted defense for disrespectful behaviour. No one should feel fine slapping someone else, period. Assault is assault.

Not that I'm saying the men out there who refuse to hit girls should feel any less proud of themselves for that. I just believe the idea should be not to hit anyone, male or female.

Tell me...do you guys who pride themselves on not hitting girls (maybe "pride" seems too strong a word, but you get my general notion) use the same restraint with the boys you come into conflict with in your lives?

TheVileOne

02-16-2009, 02:19 PM

OK but is there any evidence to suggest that Rihanna was threatening or trying to hurt Chris Brown?

ABrown

02-16-2009, 02:20 PM

It's a shame, what happened. She's a beautiful beautiful girl. I hope that everything works out for both of them the best that it possibly can.

LinkG07

02-16-2009, 02:48 PM

Its funny how 90% f the time in cases like this the male is made out to be the bad guy. Which is just plain silly. Women aren't weaker than people may think them to be, there are some women who can kick a mans ass in a second, but since the stereotype of Men being the dominance, they are automatically labeled the villain.

TheVileOne

02-16-2009, 03:09 PM

Link, so you are saying that for the sake of suffrage and gender equality we have to be willing to say that a woman is just as capable as being evil and abusive of men?

Good or ill, people are just going by what the rumors and reports are suggesting.

Brown isn't exactly coming out looking like he was battered or abused by a significant other.

mr.happy

02-16-2009, 03:13 PM

Its funny how 90% f the time in cases like this the male is made out to be the bad guy.That's because in 90% of cases like this, they are. In what alternate reality is a woman who ends up in hospital with injuries like these not the victim? I'm all for the idea of equality, and that people who want to throw a punch should be ready to take one, but even if she did start it, the nature of her injuries clearly indicates that excessive force was used against her.

Which is just plain silly. Women aren't weaker than people may think them to be, there are some women who can kick a mans ass in a second, but since the stereotype of Men being the dominance, they are automatically labeled the villain.Does it seem to you like Rihanna could kick Chris Brown's ass?

Mesousa

02-16-2009, 03:16 PM

I like Chris Brown more than Rihana, by the way.

Anyways, I can't see CB do something like that. He looks like a nice guy. Was there somethign that was bugging him since last year or something?

LinkG07

02-16-2009, 03:29 PM

I was basically generalizing, but to the sake of this case, Chris is gonna have to pay up for this. Sadly, things don't look good on his part.

DisneyBoy

02-16-2009, 04:01 PM

we have to be willing to say that a woman is just as capable as being evil and abusive of men?

They are.

Brown isn't exactly coming out looking like he was battered or abused by a significant other.

Quite true. But people who are repeatedly verbally and emotionally abused can act out with violence. That might have been the case, who knows?

Does it seem to you like Rihanna could kick Chris Brown's ass?

I don't really know how "tough" Chris looks (I've only seen him because of these reports), but frankly Rihanna does look like a tough cookie.

I'm all for the idea of equality, and that people who want to throw a punch should be ready to take one, but even if she did start it, the nature of her injuries clearly indicates that excessive force was used against her.

Well if all these reports of bruises are true, yup I agree with ya. But again, we don't really know to what degree that fight was a fight. Did something fall on her accidentally, causing really bad damage?

Not saying I WANT to know - cause this ain't non of my business - but yeah. Chris using his fists versus a crowbar, versus an airbag being deployed and really hurting her - all different things.

He looks like a nice guy.

So not important. Looks mean nothing. Not saying he's evil, mind you. Just human, like his Dad said.

Ajax

02-16-2009, 08:08 PM

OK but is there any evidence to suggest that Rihanna was threatening or trying to hurt Chris Brown?Well not that im disagreeing with the general conseus here but one has to question exactly what in the world possessed Chris Brown to strangle/hit Rhianna? I mean CB doesnt have a history of violence and its not like women from his past relationships (or who associated with him in the past) are coming out of the woodwork in the wake of this mess all calming he beats women. Honestly I am interested to see how this all turns out though.....

I.D.Will19??

02-16-2009, 11:18 PM

For everyone to know, Chris Brown knows martial arts. Just sayin'...
This wouldn't be the first time he used his skills against someone. What happened to self-control and discipline?

If you were to bet on a fight between, not just a man and a woman, but a man who knows martial arts and a woman who doesn't: who do you think will end up in the hospital? And what the hell are those bite marks about?

Add that to his family history of domestic violence (he admitted this in an interview) and what do you have?

As for Chris Brown's "excuse" for beating her. Maybe he got tired of hearing all the Rihanna/Jay-Z/Beyonce rumors. Or maybe her "rumored" bad attitude just pushed him over the edge. Don't forget about the "who has herpes" talk. I just don't understand the excessiveness of it all. Why not just a slap or a punch? Bite marks, man, bite marks....

warnerbroman

02-16-2009, 11:21 PM

I'm sorry, but physical violence -be it against a woman OR a man- is just wrong and inexusable, no matter how many ways 'til Sunday you spin it.

I like Rhianna, so naturally I'm on her side.unless they are into it ;)

DisneyBoy

02-17-2009, 04:21 AM

*reads above post and cringes with disappointment*

Not funny man.

Bite marks are...questionable. Really strange and bothersome. And yeah...creepy.

Sorry to those who like it in bed, but...yuck.

Knight

02-19-2009, 11:04 PM

From TMZ.com

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0219_rihanna_photo_beating.jpg

Looks like CB really did a number on her.

mr.happy

02-19-2009, 11:38 PM

Ouch. Poor girl. Not only did she seem to take some big knocks, but now has to endure the humiliation of the evidence being posted on the internet.

I.D.Will19??

02-20-2009, 12:09 AM

DAMN! :eek: DAMN!!:( DAMN!!!:crying:

I hope she sticks to her guns and presses charges against him. Jesus, man.

NinjaJack

02-20-2009, 12:51 AM

LinkG07

02-20-2009, 01:03 AM

Brutality and the "Eye for an Eye" route towards this is not the way. It all depends on what the two main people have to say. Chris has already apologized, but Rihanna has yet to say a word. However once we get both sides of the story, we're gonna have quite a war on our hands if she decides to anvil him with charges and public bashing. (War as in Chris Brown fans vs Rihanna fans vs Everybody in between.)

Personally I say he should make a public apology, take some anger management classes as well as repent by spending more time in church, since he's seeking the help of his pastor. (Or if you wanna go hardcore, he should do a few weeks/monthes jail time.)

TMC1982

02-20-2009, 01:28 AM

He is a low down dirty punk face woman hitting yellow bellied slime covered rotten snake of a cowardice excuse for a human and or being.

I will never support this man's paycheck. When they find his pitiful self guilty they should have him beaten by someone 20lbs bigger than him. The punk.

Chris Brown's career is over if you ask me. Number one, he attacked one of the most popular female pop acts at the moment in Rihanna. Sure, people like James Brown have gotten in trouble for beating on women, but unfortunately, it was easier to over look that since the women in question were unknown. In other words, I'm afraid that Chris is going to be blackballed from within the industry.

Number two, much of Chris Brown's fan base was/is made up of women. So it's going to be extremely counterproductive to support a guy who got in trouble for beating up his girlfriend.

Number three, people are going to be randomly gunning for him to get into a physical altercation. There's already a group on Facebook concerning the members offering to fight Chris Brown (since he must think that he's a tough guy for beating the stuffing out of a pretty pop princess). So naturally, Chris Brown would have to be concerned about his own safety (in or out of prison).

And number four, Brown hasn't really had a lenghty track record career wise like say Michael Jackson or R. Kelly, who have had their own personal issues to take care off in recent years. So, I figure that there really isn't a whole lot that Chris can fall back on due to his lack of longetivity. This goes back to my statement about him likely getting blackballed in a sense.

TMC1982

02-20-2009, 01:30 AM

OK but is there any evidence to suggest that Rihanna was threatening or trying to hurt Chris Brown?

Does this mean that you're theorizing that Rihanna is pulling a Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction!? :anime:

warnerbroman

02-20-2009, 02:10 AM

From TMZ.com

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0219_rihanna_photo_beating.jpg

Looks like CB really did a number on her.wow that ....wow:(

Ajax

02-20-2009, 02:31 AM

Chris Brown's career is over if you ask me. Number one, he attacked one of the most popular female pop acts at the moment in Rihanna. Sure, people like James Brown have gotten in trouble for beating on women, but unfortunately, it was easier to over look that since the women in question were unknown. In other words, I'm afraid that Chris is going to be blackballed from within the industry. Yeah, Chris Brown just committed career suicide. If anyone was like me, they were proally thinking "it couldnt have been that bad", but after seeing that pic of her looking like she got the bejesus kicked out of her, CB is pretty much done. I mean, as messed up as it sounds your right, if this had been some unknown GF he proally could of recovered from all this eventually. But beating the crap out someone who is just as famous, if not more, there's just no way ppl will ever forgive him for this. And lol at the kickboxer who wants to beat the hell of CB, man he better get used to that.

Light Lucario

02-20-2009, 02:47 AM

Dang! I'm sorry, but that picture kind of scared me because she looks in pretty bad shape. I feel sorry for her. I hope that she gets better and that there is some justice in this situation.

Katsumara

02-20-2009, 02:58 AM

http://thesuperficial.com/2009/02/rihanna_wants_chris_brown_back.php

Makes this story sadder. :/ She'd be stupid if she took him back.

ShadowGUN

02-20-2009, 08:11 AM

From TMZ.com

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0219_rihanna_photo_beating.jpg

Looks like CB really did a number on her.

Damn. And here I thought Brown only gave her a black eye. She looks pretty beat up.
Yeah his carrer is pretty much dead after this.

warnerbroman

02-20-2009, 09:54 AM

http://thesuperficial.com/2009/02/rihanna_wants_chris_brown_back.php

Makes this story sadder. :/ She'd be stupid if she took him back.you don't know women in love

DisneyBoy

02-20-2009, 01:34 PM

First up, that report about Rihanna wanting him back was funny - "Quackers" :anime: Stupid joke but well placed...I guess.

This is obviously a serious situation.

Honestly...that photo is so bad it's hard to tell what's bruised and what isn't. Is there bruising around her eyes? I don't have enough of a morbid fascination to examine it further.

As far as a public apology goes, after Mr Swimmer said a big ol' "I'm sawwweeee" about smoking pot, I find it hard to take any public apologies seriously. They're almost motivated by vain reasoning, and wanting to preserve one's image.

I think it would be more appropriate for him to just speak to his supporters about how he feels about himself. Leave the "I've let YOU downs" out of it, because really? He's got enough money to live happily now, and it seems, a girlfriend willing to work through things. Don't try and win the world over now. Just clean house a bit, fix yourself up and if you've got the balls, tell the people who deserve to know where you're at.

No "lovers" should be fighting like this. Maybe it was the first time, maybe not...but either way, look at what you're doing and realize you have to change it.

Of course, I'm really naive, so he's probably just a total thug idiot, happy to beat on his girl, and here am I talking to him like he might just be like the rest of us. Who knows?

NewcomerDC

02-20-2009, 01:49 PM

http://thesuperficial.com/2009/02/rihanna_wants_chris_brown_back.php

Makes this story sadder. :/ She'd be stupid if she took him back.
Well I for one hopes that she'll think twice before ending back with him for who knows what will happen next? Plus all of the readers' comments are borederline idiotic such as "She deserves to get beat" and others that sound similar to this one.

Everyone should be quiet about what they thought Rihanna did to get herself in this situation and maybe they should be the ones getting the snot kicked out of Chris Brown because as a guy who's been trying to defend the women whether or not they caused the relationship to go sour, these little cry-baby fans of CB continue to defend him over and over again and I think that we should view this from Rihanna's point of view. We should try to urge her to move on to another man that will even give time to care for her rather than argue, moan, and hit her.

mr.happy

02-20-2009, 02:32 PM

Honestly...that photo is so bad it's hard to tell what's bruised and what isn't. Is there bruising around her eyes? I don't have enough of a morbid fascination to examine it further.Yes, that picture is really quite creepy. With her eyes closed like that, as well as the overall quality of the picture, it almost looks like a morgue shot. That said, I can't help thinking she still looks better than those pictures of Eva Longoria without her make-up last year. :)

As far as a public apology goes, after Mr Swimmer said a big ol' "I'm sawwweeee" about smoking pot, I find it hard to take any public apologies seriously. They're almost motivated by vain reasoning, and wanting to preserve one's image.Regardless of his motivation, "sorry" just doesn't cut it, when you do something like that.

No "lovers" should be fighting like this. Maybe it was the first time, maybe not...It does make you wonder if this was just a fashion statement or something else.

http://media.canada.com/gallery/dose_popfashion08/121808_rihannaeyepatch.jpg

TMC1982

02-21-2009, 01:25 AM

Yes, that picture is really quite creepy. With her eyes closed like that, as well as the overall quality of the picture, it almost looks like a morgue shot. That said, I can't help thinking she still looks better than those pictures of Eva Longoria without her make-up last year. :)

Regardless of his motivation, "sorry" just doesn't cut it, when you do something like that.

It does make you wonder if this was just a fashion statement or something else.

http://media.canada.com/gallery/dose_popfashion08/121808_rihannaeyepatch.jpg

She looks like an S&M pirate! :p

Tay the Cat

02-21-2009, 02:52 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090221/en_afp/entertainmentusmusiccrimerihanna_20090221000741

Turns out that photo of Rhianna that TMZ published was leaked by someone and not meant to be seen by the public, and is being investigated by the LAPD.

NewcomerDC

02-21-2009, 06:07 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090221/en_afp/entertainmentusmusiccrimerihanna_20090221000741

Turns out that photo of Rihanna that TMZ published was leaked by someone and not meant to be seen by the public, and is being investigated by the LAPD.
So I'm guessing the LAPD will check to see if the damage is bad enough to persecute Chris Brown. Well if this isn't enough proof that he could be in jail for a very long time, I don't know what will.

And I think we all could've predicted that the pic was leaked. That was a no-brainer.

Knight

02-21-2009, 09:13 AM

Knightmare

02-21-2009, 12:17 PM

I'm not sure what bothers me more about this story, the fact that it happened or the way it's all over the place. I like Rihanna and I feel really bad for her that this all being played out in the public.

Ajax

02-21-2009, 12:40 PM

Well if this isn't enough proof that he could be in jail for a very long time, I don't know what will.If Ray Lewis got away with murder, and if Michael Vick only got two years for his felony charge, I highly doubt Chris Brown is going to jail for a "very long time". Not to mention it all depends on Rhianna here.......

NewcomerDC

02-21-2009, 01:10 PM

If Ray Lewis got away with murder, and if Michael Vick only got two years for his felony charge, I highly doubt Chris Brown is going to jail for a "very long time". Not to mention it all depends on Rhianna here.......
If she wants to save her life, she'll charge him. I would if I was in this position.

Tay the Cat

02-22-2009, 01:09 AM

If she wants to save her life, she'll charge him. I would if I was in this position.
Even if he is charged, he still has to be proven guilty. And even if all that happens, he'll get only a year or two at most.

krazymed

02-22-2009, 10:44 AM

A responsible celebrity should have the money, resources, and brains to make sure that he is never implicated in a violent crime.

mr.happy

02-22-2009, 12:44 PM

Even if he is charged, he still has to be proven guilty. And even if all that happens, he'll get only a year or two at most.As horrible as this seems, roughing somebody up isn't that big deal in the eyes of the law. A bruised face like we saw in the TMZ picture can look a bit horrific, but it often looks worse than it is, so unless her injuries are more severe, and considering this was presumably a first offense, I'd be surprised if he gets a year. With a good lawyer, and depending on the specifics, he could even avoid jail altogether.

ABrown

03-02-2009, 05:41 PM

I hope that everything works out for both of them the best that it possibly can.

Well, I had wished Chris Brown and Rihanna the best. And it looks like they're back together again: http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=354774. I really hope for her sake that she doesn't end up one day having to regret giving him a second chance.

mr.happy

03-02-2009, 06:54 PM

NewcomerDC

03-02-2009, 07:03 PM

I guess it's not a big surprise. From the very beginning, it really didn't sound like she was serious about leaving. Not that it's really any of our business, of course, it's just disappointing that a person in her position isn't able to send a different message and be a better role model. I hope she doesn't regret her decision. Statistics for these sort of things show that abused women will leave their abuser an average of 8 times, before actually going through with it.
I just feel like she can do better than go back with Mr. Brown. He's trying to play it cool by going to anger management but even if those classes DO help, he could be on another "HULK SMASH" streak again. For example someone can go to AA but he can still go back to being a drunk.

mr.happy

03-05-2009, 11:18 AM

NewcomerDC

03-05-2009, 11:50 AM

As I suspected all along, it's now emerging from the police reports that Brown had beaten her before, and that he was getting increasingly violent. All the signs were there. The nature of her injuries, her reluctance to press charges, and now she's back in the vicious circle, where abused women, statistically speaking, try to leave their abuser an average of 8 times, before finally going through with it.

Apart from concerns about her welfare, it's extremely disappointing that a woman in her position isn't able to send a more positive message and be a better role model for other women in a similar situation.
Looks like underneath that pretty boy face was the face of an heartless soul. Well, I hope that Rihanna/ Rhianna finally leaves him because this is another case of popular female singer being tortured by her man. After hearing and seeing what Tina Turner, Whitney Houston, and recently Amy Winehouse..well that was her own fault on getting on drugs and all...have went through, I hope that CB can be charged and for her to finally move on with her life because her music is great and I really don't want another talent taken away from us.

TMC1982

03-05-2009, 01:28 PM

I don't know if this has already been posted, but FOX 11 in Los Angeles released the police department's notes from the search warrant:

According to the notes, Rihanna read a three-page text message on Brown's phone from a woman. An argument ensued and Brown allegedly tried forcing Rihanna out of the car but couldn't because she was wearing her seat belt.

Brown then allegedly shoved Rihanna's head against the passenger window. When Rihanna turned to face him, Brown punched her, then continued punching her while driving, according to the detective's notes.

Blood spattered all over Rihanna's clothing and in the interior of the car. Her mouth was filled with blood.

Brown allegedly told Rihanna, "I'm going to beat the **** out of you when we get home. You wait and see."

Rihanna called her assistant and left a message saying, "I am on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there."

Brown then replied, "You just did the stupidest thing ever. I'm going to kill you."

According to the report, Brown continued to punch Rihanna, bit her on her ear, her fingers and put her in a headlock -- she almost lost consciousness.

&........

Even if Rihanna refuses to cooperate with prosecutors, the L.A. County District Attorney may have evidence even more powerful than the gruesome photos. Multiple law enforcement sources tell TMZ, the night of the attack Rihanna told cops she was the victim of escalating violence -- and the perp was Brown.

Chris Brown, Rihanna

LAPD cops interviewed Rihanna after the attack and she told them Brown had been violent toward her in the past and that the attacks were getting "more violent" as time went on. The interview is potent evidence if the L.A. County D.A. charges Brown with felony domestic battery, and that could happen as early as today.

And there's something else. The photo that TMZ obtained showing Rihanna battered, bloody and bruised is mild compared to other photos. We've learned additional pics were taken on February 9, the day after the attack, and they are far more gruesome -- the bruises and swelling far more pronounced. We're told these photos show injuries that could be devastating in a case against Brown.

The fact that Chris was caught cheating, yet he's the one who gets angry makes him an even bigger punk if you ask me!

TKnHappyNess

03-05-2009, 01:45 PM

If she didn't invade HIS privacy, she wouldn't have gotten [edit] beaten

Mod Note: Disrespectful content edited out. There's no need for language like this, and this thread is very close to being shut down.

mr.happy

03-05-2009, 02:10 PM

Looks like underneath that pretty boy face was the face of an heartless soul.Even before this incident, I'd say he looked like a thug.

The fact that Chris was caught cheating, yet he's the one who gets angry makes him an even bigger punk if you ask me!I don't know that this is conclusive proof that he was cheating, but there's an awful lot of her songs that are going to sound a bit hollow, if she's going back to a guy who cheated and regularly beat her.

If she didn't invade HIS privacy, she wouldn't have gotten her ass beatenAnd if he hadn't been such a moron, his ass wouldn't have ended up in court, and he might still have had a career.

NewcomerDC

03-05-2009, 03:23 PM

If she didn't invade HIS privacy, she wouldn't have gotten her ass beaten
This is a low comment even for you. It doesn't matter who's fault it was. Brown was the one who caused this mess and he'll be the one paying for it in the end.

I don't know that this is conclusive proof that he was cheating, but there's an awful lot of her songs that are going to sound a bit hollow, if she's going back to a guy who cheated and regularly beat her.
You know, I just thought of something. Remember her last single, 'Rehab'? Maybe she was trying to tell us something. Maybe it was somewhere along the lines of her going there to forget about the pain that's been upon her these last few months.

TMC1982

03-05-2009, 03:32 PM

This is a low comment even for you. It doesn't matter who's fault it was. Brown was the one who caused this mess and he'll be the one paying for it in the end.

Just further proof that chivalry is dead and buried! :sad:

NewcomerDC

03-05-2009, 03:34 PM

Just further proof that chivalry is dead and buried! :sad:
So what you're saying is that Rihanna is to blame here?

ShadowGUN

03-05-2009, 03:34 PM

It appears that Brown has been charged with two felonies (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20263113,00.html)(assault and making threats).

TMC1982

03-05-2009, 03:45 PM

So what you're saying is that Rihanna is to blame here?

How difficult is it to understand that I was responding to what TKnHappyNess said about Rihanna supposedly asking for the beating!? :confused:

NewcomerDC

03-05-2009, 03:47 PM

It appears that Brown has been charged with two felonies (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20263113,00.html)(assault and making threats).
I don't think that's serious enough to keep him for life or even a couple of years in jail.

mr.happy

03-05-2009, 04:23 PM

I don't think that's serious enough to keep him for life or even a couple of years in jail.For life? Not a chance. Like I said earlier, considering that Rihanna doesn't appear to be cooperating with the police, and that this is a first offence, a good lawyer will be able to get him off without having to serve much, if any time at all. Still, he is black, and it is the US justice system, so you never know. ;)

Ajax

03-05-2009, 06:19 PM

Still, he is black, and it is the US justice system, so you never know. ;)Him being black proally wont have anything to do with it, especially since the US justice system only recognizes the color green. There's a number of black athletes and celebrities who have gotten off scott free or barely a slap on the wirst because of their power influence fame and money. If Chris Brown was a poor black dude from the projects then yeah, he be in a load of trouble. If anything, CB is proally more worried about this from a career standpoint then from a legal standpoint.

NewcomerDC

03-05-2009, 06:44 PM

Headline News is covering the entire case now and CB could face probation to 4 years, 8 months in prison. Even with al of this mess, the fool was out jet-skiing.

And fools like Kanye West had to defend CB's actions. This is just terrible. Like most of us have said, I hope that CB goers to jail.

Blueranger

03-06-2009, 09:41 AM

You wanna know what's the best part of all of this?....THEY ARE BACK TOGETHER.

NewcomerDC

03-06-2009, 11:27 AM

You wanna know what's the best part of all of this?....THEY ARE BACK TOGETHER.
Pretty much a darn shame considering that Rihanna will never get the help she deserves. I would be more happier if she dumped Chris Brown but what can I do? Her parents aren't trying to help her out. They support every dumb decision that she has done so far with this case.

All I can say is "Sad days, sad days."

Tay the Cat

03-06-2009, 12:12 PM

Remember her last single, 'Rehab'? Maybe she was trying to tell us something.
That wasn't Rihanna. That was another mess named Amy Winehouse.

NewcomerDC

03-06-2009, 12:43 PM

That wasn't Rihanna. That was another mess named Amy Winehouse.
No she did do a song that was titled "Rehab". It was on her last album Good Girl Gone Bad.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Girl_Gone_Bad#Singles):

"Rehab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehab_(Rihanna_song))" — The eighth single was originally scheduled to be "Breakin' Dishes", but was changed instead to "Rehab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehab_(Rihanna_song))." "Rehab" impacted U.S. radio on October 7, 2008 and entered the Top 20 with a peak position at number 18 on the Billboard Hot 100 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_100)[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Girl_Gone_Bad#cite_note-23).Rihanna performed 'Rehab' on November 23, 2008 at the American Music Awards 2008 and at Star Academy France's last prime session, with finalist and winner Mickels Réa.

Shawn Hopkins

03-06-2009, 01:44 PM

How do you think Chris will do in the Kid's Choice Awards? He's nominated in two categories. And in one of them he's up against Rihanna. I don't know if Nickelodeon is really thinking things through here if they allow the possibility of the TMC headline "Chris Brown beats Rihanna at the Kid's Choice Awards."

TKnHappyNess

03-06-2009, 10:13 PM

Ajax

03-07-2009, 03:48 AM

Now, I'd like to ask a question to everyone out here. If your privacy was invaded, how would you handle it? Others have no right to invade your privacy, and Brown chose to beat up Rihanna allegedly. Now if she hadn't invaded his privacy as I said earlier, she wouldn't have been beaten. People take out their frustrations in different ways. If someone invaded my privacy, I would feel it's my right to invade their's to make it even.So if ur mother invaded ur privacy, you would beat the living crap out of her? Is that what your saying? How is that even a question? How do you beat the crap out of someone you supposively love/care about or are in a relationship with? I dont know what rock you have been living under for the entiretly of your life but there are laws out there that say "you cant beat the crap out of your significant other period". Its called domestic violence for a reason and its taken very serious. Trust me bro, if your sister/mother/or even daughter (if you ever have one) came home one day with black eyes, brusies on her face and bite marks and you ask her what happen and she says "I invaded my boyfriends privacy" I highly doubt that your gonna answer "well thats your fault, you should of never done that". And if you do say that, then damn bro, your one ruthless vato.

mr.happy

03-07-2009, 09:16 AM

Radical Raven

03-07-2009, 02:41 PM

Shawn Hopkins

03-11-2009, 10:19 PM

Now, I'd like to ask a question to everyone out here. If your privacy was invaded, how would you handle it? Others have no right to invade your privacy, and Brown chose to beat up Rihanna allegedly. Now if she hadn't invaded his privacy as I said earlier, she wouldn't have been beaten. People take out their frustrations in different ways. If someone invaded my privacy, I would feel it's my right to invade their's to make it even.

Never date please.

To answer your question, if my privacy was invaded I would not beat black and blue, bite and threaten to kill a woman much smaller than me. Would you? Do you think beating someone about the face for peeking at a text message is even Stevens?

In fact, my last girlfriend did look in my phone. And it was awkward because my contact list was mostly other girl's names. But I just told her she was silly for getting huffy with me, I didn't beat the crap out of her.

In other news, Nick has apparently caved and yanked Chris Brown from Kid's Choice Awards's consideration. Why, if they were going to do it, they didn't do a week ago is a good question.

http://gawker.com/5168226/nickelodeon-declares-chris-brown-unfit-for-kids-to-choose

Tay the Cat

03-11-2009, 10:25 PM

Never date please.

To answer your question, if my privacy was invaded I would not beat black and blue, bite and threaten to kill a woman much smaller than me. Would you? Do you think beating someone about the face for peeking at a text message is even Stevens?

In fact, my last girlfriend did look in my phone. And it was awkward because my contact list was mostly other girl's names. But I just told her she was silly for getting huffy with me, I didn't beat the crap out of her.

In other news, Nick has apparently caved and yanked Chris Brown from Kid's Choice Awards's consideration. Why, if they were going to do it, they didn't do a week ago is a good question.

http://gawker.com/5168226/nickelodeon-declares-chris-brown-unfit-for-kids-to-choose
Actually, Chris Brown withdrew himself from the awards. Nick weren't going to do anything.

Shawn Hopkins

03-11-2009, 10:29 PM

Actually, Chris Brown withdrew himself from the awards. Nick weren't going to do anything.

Yeah, you're right. Here's a more accurate link.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/ap_en_ot/music_brown_rihanna

Why Nick wasn't going to do anything, though, I still don't understand.

Plague Rat

03-11-2009, 11:19 PM

Guilty or not, what disturbs me is how many people online defend Brown by saying "she must've deserved it," usually without any evidence except something invented online.
That's... horrible. ;.; She's such a pretty girl too, it's a shame this happened to her. I don't know her personally and I don't know how she acts when around him, but whatever she did or said gave him no excuse to attack her that way.

Innocent until proven guilty though, may be true, but what other evidence could be put against it? Most likely he'll just get bailed out or a really good lawyer he was able to afford will persuade the court he's innocent, even if he's not.

But realize that this stuff happens everyday and gets little publicity or even any at all. It's a really depressing truth that people get away with that type of irrational behavior without getting what they deserve.

Now, I'd like to ask a question to everyone out here. If your privacy was invaded, how would you handle it? Others have no right to invade your privacy, and Brown chose to beat up Rihanna allegedly. Now if she hadn't invaded his privacy as I said earlier, she wouldn't have been beaten. People take out their frustrations in different ways. If someone invaded my privacy, I would feel it's my right to invade their's to make it even.

That's not being justified that's just being... cruel. It's not the right way to react at all. I mean, I don't like when my privacy is invaded, and the worst I do is just whine about it. But getting physical? Not worth it.

mr.happy

03-19-2009, 09:51 AM

This may be a little bit off-topic, but considering that the thread has gone dead anyway, I'm going to allow myself a little wiggle room for a quick side-note, considering how the double standards of this story were mentioned earlier. Here's a story about a Project Runway finalist who attacked a guy, and I don't see any way this will become much of a story, due to the attacker being a woman.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20266492,00.html

What really caught my attention here was the nature of the attack. First of all, let me state for the record that I love cats, and I have nothing but ill will towards anyone who would harm such a defenseless little creature, but at the same time, I can't help but admire the level of creativity that went into attacking someone with a cat... and apples!? That's as disturbing as it is funny.

Shawn Hopkins

06-22-2009, 07:16 PM

Innocent till proven guilty... then we stop buying his music.

Guilty as all Hell. Brown pleaded guilty today and will serve either six months of jail or community labor. I'm going to bet on community labor.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/settlement-might-be-near-in-chris-brown-case.html

Will you really stop buying his music? Do the people who were bending over backwards to try to justify his actions feel a little silly now? Don't hit your girlfriend, it's pretty damn simple.

CaptainHero

06-22-2009, 09:11 PM

mr.happy

06-22-2009, 09:39 PM

The saddest part is I feel that this whole story is just going to give this little sack of excrement more publicity and more idiots will buy his music. R. Kelly and Michael Jackson both seem to be doing fine these days (though Jacko is pretty much blacklisted these days as he deserves)Jackson and Kelly weren't actually convicted or found guilty of anything, though, were they?

but still it seems like when celebrities beat their wives or girlfriends it doesn't do as much damage to their career as it should and it disgusts me that people will still support them buying their music. :sad:For much of the misogynist rap scene/audience, a conviction for domestic abuse is probably a badge of honor. Iz gangsta, yo.

CaptainHero

06-22-2009, 09:53 PM

Jackson and Kelly weren't actually convicted or found guilty of anything, though, were they?

For much of the misogynist rap scene/audience, a conviction for domestic abuse is probably a badge of honor. Iz gangsta, yo.

Both Jackson and Kelly had lots of money to spend on excellent attorneys which helped them a lot.

buttah

06-22-2009, 10:31 PM

For much of the misogynist rap scene/audience, a conviction for domestic abuse is probably a badge of honor. Iz gangsta, yo.
Not sure if that's the case or not but Chris Brown isn't a rapper so I'm not sure why that would matter for him.

CaptainHero

06-22-2009, 10:54 PM

Not sure if that's the case or not but Chris Brown isn't a rapper so I'm not sure why that would matter for him.

He's a "hip happer" and hip/hop and rap usually go hand in hand with each other, at least in the eyes of the general public.

Space Cadet

06-22-2009, 11:06 PM

He's a "hip happer" and hip/hop and rap usually go hand in hand with each other, at least in the eyes of the general public.

He's an R&B singer, not a "hip-hopper." Sure, he collaborates with rappers, but he's a singer.

mr.happy

06-22-2009, 11:09 PM

Both Jackson and Kelly had lots of money to spend on excellent attorneys which helped them a lot.But being rich doesn't make them guilty. Brown having pleaded guilty puts him in an entirely different category.

Not sure if that's the case or not but Chris Brown isn't a rapper so I'm not sure why that would matter for him.I'd never heard of the guy or his music before this, in fact, I still haven't heard any of his music, but an article on this incident described him as "rap star Chris Brown". Then again, it might have been that Bolivian news channel that aired images of the Lost plane crash as actual Air France crash footage. :)

Ajax

06-23-2009, 04:24 AM

He's an R&B singer, not a "hip-hopper." Sure, he collaborates with rappers, but he's a singer.The cap is right though, he just phrased it wrong. Chris Brown is an R&B singer but a lot of his music is heavily influenced by hip hop (or draws from the hip hop culture) and in the eyes of the general public etc etc....

Old Guy

11-02-2009, 06:33 PM

This will be interesting:

LOS ANGELES – The first interview with Rihanna about Chris Brown's assault on her is airing this week on ABC.

The network says the pop star's one-on-one with Diane Sawyer will air Thursday and Friday on "Good Morning America" and Friday evening on the news magazine "20/20."

Brown's attack on then-girlfriend Rihanna occurred in February. He was sentenced in August to five years' probation, six months of community labor and a year of domestic violence counseling after he pleaded guilty to felony assault.

Rihanna's ABC interview coincides with the debut of her new single, "Russian Roulette," from her upcoming album, "Rated R." It's her first CD since 2007's multiplatinum "Good Girl Gone Bad."