English Naruto Volume 36 is EDITED!

[O-chan]

Hey guys,
My B & N jumped the gun and released Vols. 34-37 early. I just finished Volume 36 and unfortunately a when a "certain character" takes up a certain bad habit it IS edited out of the English version.

O-chan

[Scirel]

Hey guys,
My B & N jumped the gun and released Vols. 34-37 early. I just finished Volume 36 and unfortunately a when a "certain character" takes up a certain bad habit it IS edited out of the English version.

O-chan


Eh? Asuma dies at the END of 36 and said charachter dosen`t pick up smoking until midway through volume 38, during the aftermath of hidan/kakuzu arc.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Hey guys,
My B & N jumped the gun and released Vols. 34-37 early. I just finished Volume 36 and unfortunately a when a "certain character" takes up a certain bad habit it IS edited out of the English version.

O-chan


Eh? Asuma dies at the END of 36 and said charachter dosen`t pick up smoking until midway through volume 38, during the aftermath of hidan/kakuzu arc.



Scirel is right.

And besides, they wouldnt edit it out, its meer peanuts compared to some of the stuff SJ and Viz has allowed into there mangas.

[FireStarterLE]

and said charachter dosen`t pick up smoking until midway through volume 38, during the aftermath of hidan/kakuzu arc.

well that's incorrect actually.


Volume 36 includes chapters 320-329.
Asuma is stabbed in 326/227 and dies in 328, and at the end of 328 is when Shika picks up the cigarette and gets smoke in his eyes.

[Rud]

well, if they wouldn't let Lee drink, there was no way they would let Shika have a smoke.

[Rolling Cloud]

You gotta be kidding me.

I can understand the anime doing it, but the manga's graphic novels? Ridiculous!

[Daxdiv]

Especially since they kept Whitebeard's true mark in Volume 19 of One Piece. You know that Buddhist symbol that is often mistaken for Swastika, instead of the cross like the anime and other chapters.

[Beat]

They actually kept that in Naruto.

Anyway, why care about drug references? It's not on TV anymore.

[jph139]

Especially since they kept Whitebeard's true mark in Volume 19 of One Piece. You know that Buddhist symbol that is often mistaken for Swastika, instead of the cross like the anime and other chapters.

Two completely different circumstances. A supporting character with a flag that contains something mistaken for a swatstika isn't nearly as bad as a relatable protaganist picking up an imitatable and, well, less-than-fantastic habit. Unless kids want to become sick, giant old people, I doubt Whitebeard'll turn 'em into Nazis... though his nurses are pretty cute... :p

Yeah, it's too bad, but nothing you can do about it. I think it's one of the coolest aspects of the whole arc, but, it's simply WAY too politically incorrect to show a child smoking in a positive light.

[Daxdiv]

Well it more about people thinking that it is a symbol of Nazi/White Supremacist than anything else, not many people know it is a symbol that originated in Buddha. But they did edited in the US SJ magazine to the cross. Since they do put many chapters of Naruto in it, don't you think that someone else would have caught when it was in SJ?

[limel]

Well it more about people thinking that it is a symbol of Nazi/White Supremacist than anything else, not many people know it is a symbol that originated in Buddha. But they did edited in the US SJ magazine to the cross. Since they do put many chapters of Naruto in it, don't you think that someone else would have caught when it was in SJ?
SJ is currently taking a couple-month break from serializing the manga while releasing a couple[4 in most cases] volumes per month, to get closer to the Japanese release when the serialization returns.

So... yeah.

[Daxdiv]

SJ is currently taking a couple-month break from serializing the manga while releasing a couple[4 in most cases] volumes per month, to get closer to the Japanese release when the serialization returns.

So... yeah.

Did not know that. But man, SJ, do that with your other series, not Naruto.

[Scirel]

Just read 37, and All shikamaru's handling of the cigarette was changed to the lighter, except when the cigarette and the ligher were together, the cigatette was just edited out, and it looks like he's holding his fingers in an odd way...

the really goofy part is where you see smoke coming from the LIGHTER. LOL

[FireStarterLE]

Lol, stupid VIZ. Looking at this picture (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/BoNyKiD07/Anime%20Things/IMG00049.jpg) they should have just edited out all 3 of the top frames because with the edits they're pretty meaningless being where they are.

[soundmonkey44]

This doesn't make since...Viz has published manga's with people smoking before...heck I watched a lot of shows & cartoons where people smoked when i was young. It didn't make me wanna smoke! & if kids our dumb enought to immitate stuff they see on TV or in Comics...well don't they kind of get what they deserve!?:sweat: :evil: :evil:


(Yes I know that sounds harsh..But oh well...Silly viz & your overreaction to a negative addicitve habit.)

[creativerealms]

It's more underage smoking they are trying not to promote while they have no problem allowing older characters to smoke. It's a stupid edit yes but understandable.

[soundmonkey44]

It's more underage smoking they are trying not to promote while they have no problem allowing older characters to smoke. It's a stupid edit yes but understandable.


Don't get me wrong I see where there coming from but like I said It's kinda hard to fell sorry for a person who is dumb enough to do somthing just becuase a fictional character is doing it..and then theres the whole there just kids & don't know any better argument. Well I don't know about youguys but I was a pretty Darn smart kid I knew right from wrong,, and how to say be sly & tricky to get my way...I mean c'mon we were all kids once & alot of kids are alot smarter then most adults give them credit for. (but then Again I guess theres a few that are Dumb as dirt as well!:sweat: )

[jph139]

Shikamaru is a relatable, intelligent, badass, UNDERAGED character who starts to smoke. Regardless of whether or not Kishimoto intended it, this promotes cigarettes to children, and whether or not a kid would actually start to smoke just because a character they liked did doesn't really matter.

I mean, anyone who thought they would slip this by was kidding themselves.

[HellCat]

How silly. Folks aren't that impressionable. I mean, you don't see me leaping off the roof, snapping my fingers and shouting 'GUNDAM!', right?

......Ladder, I need a ladder! This idea can't possibly be bad!!


In all seriousness, it's a shame. I can see the logic in not wanting to promote smoking to kids but it's neutering a subtle bit of character development. There's something unsettling about Viz's ass covering edits to their titles. Especially when it removes a nuance of the story.

[Beat]

As fans, all we can do is complain and ask they put it back in.

[80's guy]

Is it really something important ?

[kenjisalk]

Sorry guys, when you're a fan of a series that is targeted towards teens and tweens, this is going to happen. You can't expect them to leave it in, have it piss off parents (potentially in large numbers) and then get in PR or legal hot water. It's not worth it to them.

They love the 18 and up audience money, but bottom line is Naruto is a youth readers series in the states, and it's going to be edited accordingly.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

So the edit actullay happened?

Viz, you hipocrites you.

[creativerealms]

So the edit actullay happened?

Viz, you hipocrites you.

How? They have been editing their manga for a while.

[Daxdiv]

Yeah they edit Mr. Popo's and Chocolove's lips, but for some reason, not Adjutant Black.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

How? They have been editing their manga for a while.


Im just mad, I thought all there mangas were uncut.

Now im founding out otherwise.

[Dragonoid Master]

I'll have to check this out for myself this weekend, after I get around to finally reading volumes 33-35 first of course xD.

I'm so far behind, it's the fault of the internet, gaming, and anime lol.

[peterg14]

Ironically, they did this same thing in the anime. So now Shikamaru has some weird lighter obsession. And that I can understand, since Japan has laws against actual animated underage characters smoking (yet they did have a problem with the 13 year old Rock Lee underage drinking, go figure).

But I guess Viz doesn't have the money to have Kishimoto basically redo all the chapters where Shikamaru smokes for one audience, so I guess its understandable.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

(yet they did have a problem with the 13 year old Rock Lee underage drinking, go figure).



They had a problem with lee drinking in japan?

[Kazuya Prower]

They had a problem with lee drinking in japan?

I'm sure that was a typo.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

I'm sure that was a typo.


Ah, ok just wondering.

But still, if japan did have a problem with shikimaru smoking, why was it in the manga? Did it get in trouble or something?

[Hordesman]

Ah, ok just wondering.

But still, if japan did have a problem with shikimaru smoking, why was it in the manga? Did it get in trouble or something?

Because manga can get away with a bit more. Different products, different demographics, more scrutiny on the tv adaptation.

[bleachj0j]

viz edits the shonen jump manga but advanced is usually uncut.

And I can see a kid trying to imatate Shikamaru. He is a pretty cool character so kid can just see him smoking and well say " That looks pretty cool. Maybe I should try that"

[Luna]

While I don't really like edits like this,I can understand why it'd be done (the whole "fear of imitated behavior" thing)....I haven't seen any of the new volumes out yet,though (went to Borders today,and all they had was up to volume 33,but they did have the March issue of Shonen Jump)....

[Bunai]

Is it really something important ?
yeah, it has symbolism.
Shika misses his teacher. Apparently he stops after a few pages.

With this edit, it seems Shika is just imitating "Smoking" but not actually doing it.
So in an odd way, it works. Invisible Cig

[Rolling Cloud]

Is it really something important ?


yeah, it has symbolism.
Shika misses his teacher. Apparently he stops after a few pages.

With this edit, it seems Shika is just imitating "Smoking" but not actually doing it.
So in an odd way, it works. Invisible Cig

There's also the fact that...
Shika uses the cig to light the paper bombs he tied Hidan up in, thereby eliminating him.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Luckily there's this thing called the internet where you can find import stores and buy the original Japanese version of the product in question and read that.

[TheVileOne]

Shikamaru shouldn't smoke anyway. It's bad for you and he already has enough bad habits.

[Collie]

Shikamaru shouldn't smoke anyway. It's bad for you and he already has enough bad habits.

No kidding. If the kid was that much of a genius, he'd know not to start smoking. This isn't character development, it's derailment.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

You make the mistake of assuming Shikamaru cares to do the smart thing.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

You make the mistake of assuming Shikamaru cares to do the smart thing.


Ha, its true. XD