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Jude Santos
03-09-2002, 10:26 AM
just a thought. i think home movies, baby blues and eltingville in terms of audiencesare the same as simpsons so we really couldnt consider those adult. i really dont know what audiences the brak show, harvey, and space goast attract, but the only 'adult' shows i can tell on AS are bebop and sealab2021.

Killtacular
03-09-2002, 11:01 AM
Sealab 2021? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

BUT seriously.



Home Movies and Baby Blues are adult. The rest are for teens.

SSJ_Gogeta
03-09-2002, 11:43 AM
If Home Movies is "adult", then the Family Guy is for cold blooded murderers on death row.

Why does anyone care? If we had to get "adult" shows, then everything would just have to be animes full of nudity & sex, and violence! Now I LOVE anime, but damn, I want my YYH, Home Movies, ATHF, Eltingville, and Sealab! I can't get them anywhere else! AS is the only place that fits!

Stop crying about whether these shows are "adult" enough, and enjoy em'! You know you watch them, and you know you love them, so why ***** about it?

KingKoopa
03-09-2002, 11:50 AM
Adult: Cowboy Bebop, Baby Blues

Teen: Home Movies, Brak, Yu Yu Hakusho, Aqua Teens, Space Ghost, Birdman, Sealab 2021, Gundam 0083, Outlaw Star (for storyline)

Kids: Pilot Candidate, Tenchi Muyo

Might as well rename it Teenager's Night Out.

Chibi Kageboshi
03-09-2002, 11:56 AM
I would put Tenchi under Teen if it was unedited..

SSJ_Gogeta
03-09-2002, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
Adult: Cowboy Bebop, Baby Blues

Teen: Home Movies, Brak, Yu Yu Hakusho, Aqua Teens, Space Ghost, Birdman, Sealab 2021, Gundam 0083, Outlaw Star (for storyline)

Kids: Pilot Candidate, Tenchi Muyo

Might as well rename it Teenager's Night Out.

Translation: "Whhhhhaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaa *sniffle* *sob*

KingKoopa
03-09-2002, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by SSJ_Gogeta


Translation: "Whhhhhaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaa *sniffle* *sob* I'm not complaining. Its just that most of them would appeal to teens more than adults.

Jude Santos
03-09-2002, 01:07 PM
Says SSJ_GogetaStop crying about whether these shows are "adult" enough, and enjoy em'! You know you watch them, and you know you love them, so why ***** about it?

<obviously someone here is not smart enough to tell if people are complaining or not.>

anyway, i wasnt complaining, i was just asking what shows are actually adult. why? becuase all you guys always say as excuses "why did they edit that? its supposed to be ADULT" or "this show isnt adult enough for AS", but then again, which shows in AS are actually adult?

zimed
03-09-2002, 01:33 PM
Adult: Baby Blues, Home Movies, Harvey Birdman and Bebop.

Teen: Sealab, Brak- Pretty much anything WS made.

At first I thought Sealab was for adults, The first episode was smart and edgy but then not one episode could live up to it. It is funny granted but not for adults (my parents dislike it)

The term 'adult' isnt how many swears and nudity you can fit in, well thats the psuedo title slapped on to shows like that. Most shows with nudity and high amounts of swearing TEENs like and ADULTs hate. There for Babyblues>Southpark on the adult scale.

SSJ_Gogeta
03-09-2002, 01:38 PM
Well do you blame me for assuming your complaining? That's all that goes on around here. Just sticking up for Adult Swim.

To answer your question; Only Bebop is an adult show IMO.

Artemis
03-09-2002, 01:48 PM
Adult: Cowboy Bebop, Baby Blues, SGC2C, and (to an extent) Home Movies.

Teens: Harvey Birdman, The Brak Show, Sealab 2021, Aqua Teens, Yu Yu Hakusho, Outlaw Star (unedited), Tenchi, (unedited), and Gundam 0083 (unedited).

Kids: Pilot Candidate (edited or unedited I'd still call it a kids show :p )

mrdude
03-09-2002, 02:16 PM
Remember when the Simpsons came out and parents wouldnt let this kids watch it because they thought Bart was a bad influence? (they should have been after Homer ) Anyway, if Cartoon Network aired The Simpsons, Home Movies, Ren and Stimpy, etc.. during regular programming, sure kids would watch, but some soccer moms would flip over to nick.

ohmrbill
03-09-2002, 04:38 PM
I know some kids who still aren't allowed to watch The Simpsons. But I also know some kids who aren't allowed to watch Dragon Ball Z, Power Rangers, or Digimon. What's your point?

Jude Santos
03-09-2002, 05:39 PM
bebop is the only show on AS thats actually adult imo too. to me, an 'adult' show is something serious and has a solid storyline like bebop. thats why i dont see any of the shows on AS comedy as 'adult' with the exception of sealab 2021, but i only saw the first episode (im not complaing either, im just saying). we need more anime on AS.

KingKoopa
03-09-2002, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Fatal
bebop is the only show on AS thats actually adult imo too. to me, an 'adult' show is something serious and has a solid storyline like bebop. thats why i dont see any of the shows on AS comedy as 'adult' with the exception of sealab 2021, but i only saw the first episode (im not complaing either, im just saying). we need more anime on AS. Do you even KNOW about Saturday nights?

Jude Santos
03-09-2002, 05:59 PM
of course i know about saturday nights. youre talking about ASA right? by "AS needs more anime", im talking about better anime or anime for teens/adults. and also, we need more anime specifically for AS, right now, 4 shows on ASA were specifically for toonami. ive already seen all the anime on ASA except YYH.

Sheamon
03-09-2002, 06:24 PM
I wasn't allowed to watch the Simpsons til season 6 :( I don't think it was until I was 13 or 14 that I saw my first episode (the one where they get the pool) :(

Anyway back on subject, yes, the only shows thats treated like an adults show is Cowboy Bebop. I don't care if they want to start blocks like this with shows targetted towards teens. Heck, I love it. I just wish they'd stop consistantly lying to everyone with the 'Adult' thing. Call it adult when there's actually something adult on there.

ccffan01
03-09-2002, 06:38 PM
Well techniacally theres no rule thats says if a shows for an adult of not, it weather if the show appeals to them or not.

DarkMaster
03-09-2002, 07:54 PM
Read the adult swim commentary: If u don't agree with that too bad.

All of the following say PG13+ on the box. I still consider them all adult regardless of any edits made.

randomguy
03-09-2002, 08:15 PM
I'm kinda tired of the is Adult Swim adult question. CCF Fan makes a great point, whether or not it's adult is on a person-by-person basis. It's all in the eye of the beholder. What really IS adult? It's as pointless a debate as what art is. It seems like everytime there's a new show or a review or something everybody argues over whether or not it's "Adult". The debate is certainly significant to a point (which is why the block is called Adult Swim), but I think it's been rammed into the ground. The block is still evolving, distinguishing itself from other animation, etc. Give it time, stop questioning, and enjoy the shows at face value.

AgentMaxX
03-09-2002, 08:28 PM
First of all, the simpsons does have adult content that would not be suitable for the kids who watch PPG and toonami. i didnt see the simpsons til i was 12 and when i see all those episodes i missed, they were hardly that funny anyways. Bebop is the only show that is adult. If they brought something like Family Guy, then adult swim would be living up to its name more. Shows like Home Movies may not be adult stuff, but it sure isnt sumthing cartoon network would air at 4:30pm on a tuesday afternoon.

Sheamon
03-09-2002, 08:48 PM
I'm kinda tired of the is Adult Swim adult question.

Me too. But then again, I wasn't the one who decided to call a block with edited versions of PC, Gundam 0083, Tenchi and Outlaw Star 'adult'. They're bringing it on themselves.


CCF Fan makes a great point, whether or not it's adult is on a person-by-person basis. It's all in the eye of the beholder. What really IS adult? It's as pointless a debate as what art is. It seems like everytime there's a new show or a review or something everybody argues over whether or not it's "Adult".
I wouldn't necessarily say its as vague as a 'what is art' or 'does god exist' debate. When the show has a Y7 rating, I think its pretty clear who its being targetted to. Regardless of the circumstances, the fact remains that the versions of PC/Gundam/Tenchi/OS airing are versions targetted towards the extremely young crowd. If the 'what is adult' debate really was so vague, then airing nudity and profanity on a block like Toonami wouldn't be automatic taboo, would it? While adults certainly can enjoy and are suitable to watch programs targetted towards younger audiences, the same can't necessarily be said going from the other way. Which essentially removes a lot of the 'vagueness' of the debate.



The block is still evolving, distinguishing itself from other animation, etc. Give it time, stop questioning, and enjoy the shows at face value. [/B]
Unfortunately I'd say its a case of 'de-evolving'. Of course if no one gave the block constructive criticism like us (while we are complaining, we're not trolls. We simply want to see the block reach its full potential, thats all) then there'd be no point in improving it, would there? And thats what every one of us wants, isn't it? A block that makes all animation fans proud in every facet of its existence.

Evil Dr. Reef
03-09-2002, 09:54 PM
To tell you the truth, I'm having a hard time figuring out what exactly an "adult" show is. Aside from the obvious (porn), I don't thing that there are too many truly "adult" shows out there. For example: "E.R.", "Law & Order", and "The Sopranos" are all considered "adult" shows. I'm 16, and I watch, and enjoy, all of them. Just because a show has foul language, violence, crude humor, & sex doesn't neccesarily mean that the show is "adult" (but it helps). "South Park" is a perfect example of this. It's full of bad language, crude jokes, etc, but it's one of the most immature shows on television. The closest thing I can think of as an "adult" show would be a news show like "This Week" or "Hardball". Most of the stuff that the people discuss on those types of shows are so dull/boring to the average youth that they don't watch.

So what shows on AS/ASA are "adult"? The closest thing I can think of would be Cowboy Bebop. The other shows are either edited to a lower level, or they wern't that mature to begin with.

Jude Santos
03-09-2002, 10:01 PM
What really IS adult? It's as pointless a debate as what art is. It seems like everytime there's a new show or a review or something everybody argues over whether or not it's "Adult".

if theres a debate wheter or not the show is adult then its not adult. an adult show is something you can distinguish as 'adult' in a snap of a finger (ie. porn :rolleyes: but seriously, like bebop).

anyway, the real reason why i started this thread is actually becuase of you guys debating wheter or not a show is adult or not. i was reading the "YYH ratings in" thread the other day and some people say that its not adult enought to be in adult swim and deeming their favorite shows on AS as adult shows...yeah right, all shows on AS arent adult except bebop so that whole debate wheter or not YYH belongs on AS is utterly pointless.

and one more thing, if theres one thing i picked up from browsing this forum, i see that you guys have WAY too many defintions of "adult"

randomguy
03-09-2002, 10:37 PM
I wouldn't necessarily say its as vague as a 'what is art' or 'does god exist' debate.

No, it's not. I was using hyperbole.


Unfortunately I'd say its a case of 'de-evolving'

I don't think so. It just has to be looked at the right way. If you think in the context of Adult Swim comedy, which nobody seems to be talking about lately, it's actually evolved a good deal. Look at all the specials and new stuff being tried in March. Look at the way all of the WB-doomed-from-the-start sitcoms are being pulled back up again and given another chance. The Comedy block has evolved, I'd say. As for ASA, well, it's just starting. It's an entirely new foray into something CN hasn't tried before, and what can I say, they put Toonami edits in there because it's that or nothing at all. And they wanted to take advantage of the chance to start the ASA block while they could. Think about the big picture. We're getting new shows, edited now, not in the future, we've gotten a whole second block, the accquisitons are speeding up... I think things are getting better. What seems to be happening too often is that people focus on that there's edits to three shows on ONE of the blocks, and for that, they act as if the entire Adult Swim idea has gotten worse and been cheapened. Which I just don't think is true.

Ban Sanbonmatsu
03-09-2002, 10:59 PM
Why can't e all just....get along?

this is rediculus...i personally think that AS and ASA should just be a way to watch shows in the way the director/scriptwriter wanted the person viewing hs/her show...aka in it's full entirity. now any otaku knows that there is almost always cussing and nudity in every anime that has more of a stor line than pokemon...i just want to see anime that involves more intelectual thought that digesting "pika pika" through my mind. now we all know that no cable channel will show nudity...get over it...so find shows that dont have it! two FANTASTIC examples woul be trigun and jubei-chan (a show that is VERY under-rated) the are most definetly to adult for kids, but are apropriate for cable television...anything more, then buy it yourelf

Kesh
03-09-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Fatal
if theres a debate wheter or not the show is adult then its not adult. an adult show is something you can distinguish as 'adult' in a snap of a finger

That's the biggest generality I've heard in a long time. Sheesh. That's like saying, "If there's a debate whether or not a painting is art, then it's not art."

Jude Santos
03-10-2002, 01:43 AM
That's the biggest generality I've heard in a long time. Sheesh. That's like saying, "If there's a debate whether or not a painting is art, then it's not art."

lol, thats a very bad example since anime and art (paintings) are very different. what i actually mean by that is that if they are actually debating if its adult or not, then its not adult becuase if its adult, then why would they debate? in other words, what i mean is, people should be able to tell if a show is 'adult' by a snap of a finger (like when you see porn, you know immediatly its adult, kinda like that)

note: im not complaining about the shows on AS, im just saying.