Square and Nintendo together again

[Mad Monkey 7]

Yes, there is a Santa Claus. Today it was annouced that Squaresoft, the markers of the "Final Fanatasy" series will develop for Nintendo Gamecube and Gameboy Advance.
see these sites for more details
http://www.videogamespot.com
http://www.ign.com

Here hoping that they port over "Kingdom Hearts" over to Gamecube.

[Zorakfan]

I've said it once, I'll say it again:

SWEET ASS!

(head dance)

This almost makes up for the faith I lost in humanity today.


Almost.

[James]

I recall Squaresoft departed from Nintendo due to the restrictions of the N64 cart system over the CDROM.

What has changed their minds I wonder - anyone have a suggestion or idea over this?

[atf487]

/me does the happy dance. (getting a gba)

[Mad Monkey 7]

The first game from the them might be a game based off the current anime series of "Finanl Fantasy".

[Bird Boy]

yeah man! I'm not a FF fan, but this is cool... :)

-BB

[Invader_Spooch]

(Doing jiggly dance of praise)

CHRONO TRIGGER!!!!!!!
I MUST HAVE IT ON GBA!! :D

[Borg4of3]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

:D :D :D

The Square break was one of the most unbelievable news pieces at the beginning of the 32-/64-bit era. It had the shock to RPG fans as if Miyamoto himself left Nintendo! The most acknowledged story is that Square simply didn't agree with Nintendo's choice of medium for the N64, which was way too limiting for their ideas of Final Fantasy's (as it definately was in the beginning for all those FMVs, and music). One rumor includes such things as Square asking to produce for the Playstation and Nintendo pretty much saying 'NO way in heck will we let you', and they parted on hostile terms. Also, it is said that Square wanted to mature itself, which didn't fit what Nintendo wanted (I doubt this, but, whatever). There's also the fact that Square was making mucho moolah as Sony's primetime developer while the N64 was squandering.

Well, now that Nintendo has big-time let off on censorship (see Conker's Bad Fur Day :p ) and have moved to a cheaper standard medium, and also that the GameCube has proven very profitable with show of great potential, Square has no reason not to come back! I hope things go as cleanly between them as Nintendo's latest relations with Capcom and Sonic Team, and we get both ports and original RPGs from them!

[Mr. Obsession]

And all over the internet Nintendo only fanboys shout for joy. Good for them.

I'd guess that well see ports of all the NES and SNES FF games to the GBA (which Square has been wanting to do sine the GBA was announced), FFXI and Kingdom Hearts in the near future (since these two game are still in development they'll probably be easier to make ports for), probably ports of the PS2 remakes of FFVII, VIII, & IX which were recently put on the back burner, and a port of FFX as well.

As for future games, sure there may be one or two exclusives for Gamecube, as well as a few exclusives for the PS2. But most of the big games will be on both systems (this just makes more money for Square). However you'll probably see cross-platform games on the PS2.

To me it doesn’t really matter, I already have a PS2 and I'll probably be picking up a Gamecube some time between next month and this summer. So the only real decision I'll have to make is which version of the multiplatform Square games to pick up.

[Blue Priestess]

Originally posted by Invader_Spooch
(Doing jiggly dance of praise)

CHRONO TRIGGER!!!!!!!
I MUST HAVE IT ON GBA!! :D

Likewise!! :D :D :D AND FF6--I love that game!

Mela (massive Locke fan)

[Chris Sanders MSX]

I'm going to go nuts..This can't be real. I mean I hope it is but what about all that yada yada yada about Square being semi controlled by Sony due that whole stock thing ?

[The Dark Knight]

Hmm...(checking calendar) nope, not April 1st. Wow, I never thought this would happen. Both Sony and Square have stated that the stock purchase would not prevent Square from developing games for any console, but Square has stated several times that they would stick with Sony. I wonder what would change their mind.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

The other Stock Holders and the insane amount of money they will make. GBA is the only hand held on the American market and as The Super mario Advance sales haves hown gamers love those Retro games not to mention the GBA/GC Link...

It'd be stupid for them NOT to make the games for other consoles.

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Chris Sanders MSX
I'm going to go nuts..This can't be real. I mean I hope it is but what about all that yada yada yada about Square being semi controlled by Sony due that whole stock thing ? Last I heard Sony owned a 15% stake in Square, which means Square can do pretty much anything they damn well please, short of stopping production of games for Sony consoles, since Sony is only a minority shareholder. Basically as long as Square makes money (and produces games for Sony systems) Sony's happy because some of those profits will find there way to them.

I suspect that Sony's stock in Square simply means that any major cross-platform game (read: Final Fantasy) will show up on a Sony console first.

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by The Dark Knight
Both Sony and Square have stated that the stock purchase would not prevent Square from developing games for any console, but Square has stated several times that they would stick with Sony. I wonder what would change their mind. Square's not abandoning Sony (that's the way I read your post), it just means that they now have the option to make their games cross-platform since they've made up with Nintendo.

Why'd they want to develop for Nintendo again? Well, probably the GBA which Square has been practically drooling over to port their SNES library to. That and putting a game on both the PS2 and Gamecube means more money for Square.

[The Dark Knight]

In my post I didn't mean they would stop making games for Sony, all I meant was that they never even mentioned wanting to develop for Gamecube. Square had stated that the only reason they weren't developing games for the Game Boy Advance was because Nintendo also wanted them to devlop games for Gamecube and Square wouldn't do it. And you would think Sony would pay Square a lot of money to keep the Final Fantasy games exclusive to the PS2. You can see why I'm a little confused at Square's sudden decision to bring their games to Nintendo.

[The Mad Hatter]

From what I heard, Nintendo's president (NOT Miyamoto... sorry, I forget his name) got extremely pissed when he learned that FF7 wouldn't come to the N64 because of the cart-based system's memory restrictions. So, he refused to let Square make games for any Nintendo system, even the Game Boy. Big mistake, I know. But it was mainly the president's stubbornness that kept Square away for so long. Looks like he finally lightened up!

This is certainly great news, it guarantees that the Gamecube will do better than the N64.

[mbaker]

Maybe now, Nintendo will put out some good games for a change. However, it's too late for me to come back to them. I'm a diehard Sony fan, and Square made the right choice to develope for them. Leaving Nintendo twisting in the wind. It'll be interesting to see if this will help Nintendo regain it's former fanbase from Sony. Square should've develpoed for Sega as well, but that's just my opinion.

[Borg4of3]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
From what I heard, Nintendo's president (NOT Miyamoto... sorry, I forget his name) got extremely pissed when he learned that FF7 wouldn't come to the N64 because of the cart-based system's memory restrictions. So, he refused to let Square make games for any Nintendo system, even the Game Boy. Big mistake, I know. But it was mainly the president's stubbornness that kept Square away for so long. Looks like he finally lightened up!

This is certainly great news, it guarantees that the Gamecube will do better than the N64.

Ah, now I remember that! Yeah, Yamauchi is known as a demon of a businessman, having a great eye for what will do well, but he's also one hell of a stubborn butt that takes no crap from no one (sometimes good, usually bad). Maybe Square is joining back because he's issued (another) statement that he would be retiring soon. :p

[Gyro]

Looks like there's no more reason for me to buy a PS2 :p

[Jowy Blight]

Great news! :) Are they going to port Kingdom hearts and FFX over to the Gamecube? What about the remake of FF7?

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Gyro
Looks like there's no more reason for me to buy a PS2 :p Actually you still might have to, if you want all of Square's games. :p It looks like Square has set up only one division to make games for Nintendo. The majority of Square's focus will still be the PS2, especially if Square only does what it wanted to in the first place: port it SNES library to the GBA. Of course that doesn't meant that Square won't be making games for the Gamecube. I'd be suprised if they didn't. Odds are that any cross platform games will show up on the PS2 first, sure there will probably be exclusives for both systems, but if you want all the game Square will make you'll have to buy both systems.

[ButteredToast]

Square's coming to the Cube. Yay. :rolleyes:

The only good thing I see coming out of this is the widening of the Big N's fanbase, and more developers realizing that the platform is actually a GOOD thing to develop for. I stopped being a FF fan when it became a "visuals" game and not a "gameplay" game.

I only pray they don't turn their 'Cube game into an unholy FMV-fest like the past 3-4...

[James]

Originally posted by ButteredToast
Square's coming to the Cube. Yay. :rolleyes:

I only pray they don't turn their 'Cube game into an unholy FMV-fest like the past 3-4...

I appreciate that, but the last few have indeed been stunning and imaginitively designed and worth been played and viewed merely in an artistic sense.

My main grumble with VIII, IX and what I've heard of X, is that they are very linear. VII was the breakaway where they used the PSX ability to create a big, varied and flexiable game - more than ANY other..! Since then they have been very linear - however they are still stunning in both visual and aural sense - whatever the platform..

[Zorakfan]

You sir, have never played Super smash bros. Melee.

And anyone who hates X-box hasn't played Halo.

(...ok...so I still hate X-box, but Halo does rock my world 3 diffent brands of napalm)

[Jowy Blight]

Craptendo is for kids

So? If the game is fun it shouldn't matter. I would gladly take half the Nintendo library over some of the crap the PS2 and PS have on it. Never make a real Zelda game? Have you even played Ocarina of Time or A Link to the Past? I honestly don't know why Nintendo would want to make a bunch of M rated games for people like this. If I were them, I wouldn't want to make games for people who don't take the time to see what the game is about before they judge it.

I know tons of people who just look at the cover and then say, it looks too cute, it must suck. Only for them to play it and find out it's a great game.

[ButteredToast]

Originally posted by cjshoup
Craptendo has a FF Killer, in Zelda, but they won't make a real zelda game. Heck they haven't had a good mario game since the SNES (How fitting it was a squaresoft game).

Craptendo is for kids, (Look at all the pokemon games) Square should keep making for the PS2.

And regarding the Well, now that Nintendo has big-time let off on censorship (see Conker's Bad Fur Day )

It stunk.

square is going to lose a lot of money moving to its games to the GameCrap.

Spoken like a true fanboi.

Lets see. First, it's NINTENDO. Secondly, it's GAMECUBE. Thirdly, Nintendo makes games for EVERYBODY. See that "E" rating? That's not as in "kiddiE".

Conker's was an awesome game. Did you even play it?

I personally don't care for the Playstation 2, but you don't see me making lame attempts in giving it some pithy insulting name.

As for Final Fantasy.... I'll take a game with actual FUN gameplay over a movie any day. Such as... well, any game Nintendo's ever made. :)

[Doomboy]

YAY i luved the original ffgames..They ruled!oh and gyro isnt that aveatar related to SMW2 :confused: ? YAY! :D

[Borg4of3]

Originally posted by ButteredToast


Spoken like a true fanboi.

Lets see. First, it's NINTENDO. Secondly, it's GAMECUBE. Thirdly, Nintendo makes games for EVERYBODY. See that "E" rating? That's not as in "kiddiE".

Conker's was an awesome game. Did you even play it?

I personally don't care for the Playstation 2, but you don't see me making lame attempts in giving it some pithy insulting name.

As for Final Fantasy.... I'll take a game with actual FUN gameplay over a movie any day. Such as... well, any game Nintendo's ever made. :)

Beatifully said!

And, veering off topic, while Nintendo makes E-entertainment, they're allowing anything that fits in their line of quality! If anyone wants more 'mature' games, GameCube's 3rd party developers are pulling in a powerful share in those as well! Complementing the colorful cartoony games will be Capcom's remakes and super-upgrades of Resident Evil Classic, 2, Nemesis, Code Veronica as well as an original Resident Evil 4. There will also be Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, the only game with an insanity meter. Next up are the fighting games Bloody Roar and Soul Caliber II, and shooters like Die Hard: Vendetta and James Bond's Agent Under Fire. There's also not so bloody and 'mature games but definately not 'kiddy games - Battle Houshin, Turok Evolution, Legends of Wrestling, WWF WrestleMania X8, Toxic Grind, Spy Hunter, Burn Out, MX Super Fly, and all the sports games... Plus, of course, tons more!

And the 'kiddy' games rock! Unbridled by too-realistic physics, they are realms of pure fantastical entertainment! Where else can you grab onto the tail of a 100 ft high dragon and swing him away from you. They allow for the player to do things they never could in real life, and make it tons of pure, unadulterated fun!


ADD: And to fit more with the topic, Square will be yet another addition to Nintendo's line of 'mature' titles! Here here!

[The Polisher]

YES!!!! Now I won't have to get a PS2 to enjoy a new Final Fantasy game!!! Finally! :D :D :D :D

[Evil Dr. Reef]

As I said on the thread I posted over on in Cafe Toon Zone (yep, made an ass of myself AGAIN):
HUZZAH!!!!!!!!!
I'm very glad that I don't HAVE to buy a PS2 now.

[The Mad Hatter]

Dr. Reef, I hope you don't mind but since you already noticed the duplicate thread, I went ahead and deleted the original.

Keep in mind, however, that this doesn't mean every Square game will come to the Gamecube... look at Sega. Very few of their games are on multiple systems. In fact, the GC may not get Final Fantasy at all... the only game the system was promised was one based on the FF anime.

David Smith at IGN made a good point... Square will likely use the PS2 as their main console, and send the GC a game every once and a while. This, in turn, will placate Nintendo and allow Square to release remakes of past FFs on the Game Boy Advance, which will sell by the boatload.

[Mysterious Saturn]

Personally, I don't care what game console it goes too. Just as long as Sqaure continues making great games, like they have been.

And as for people who say FFVII-X are just "movies".....have you played the game?

.....

No seriously. Have you? Sure they have FMV's (ooooh, BIG surprise there) but there is TONS of game play in them.

But, whatever you say. :rolleyes: