Fresh Question #71: Terry's True Love?

[Nightwing]

Well I don't have anything to report, so let's kick off the next big Question!

You've got:

Melanie: As her reformed self, put in Terry and you've got your two of a kind.

Max: Remembering her character before the writers turned her into the cliched annoying teenage idiot, you have a gear head. Top of her class, loves computers and the whole electronic scene, and knows them front to back.

Dana: Goes through emotions like Elvis goes through bacon. But smart, and passionate. Definitely sees something in Terry that not many else do.

Any other candidates?

Who have we met that fits the bill as Terry's perfect girl?

[DR. BELCH]

The problem is, I believe that a man can love more than one woman at the same time (this is why I'm currently single, because women can be very jealous creatures who don't share my opinion--;) ) for vastly different reasons. You've done well to list their various attributes--Terry could desire Dana for her beauty, Max for her mind, and Melanie for her spirit. The query is, which relationship is the most likely to last? Who best shares common interests with Terry? Who can he talk to on a mature an equal level? Which girl would be there for the long run and which is just a "good-time" girl? Bub, if I knew that, I'd still be in a relationship right now. :rolleyes:

[James Harvey]

Don't forget that girl from UNTOUCHABLE, although I'm not sure if she qualifies.

This is also Nightwing's first FQ on the new boards! WOO-HOO! Give him a hand!

[Bird Boy]

nah, she can't qualify..cuz she went out w/ that other dude.

Max shouldn't even be considered a canidate (sp?).

Dana and Melanie are the only 2 who have to fight over Terry, but if Terry had to pick one, Im' sure he'd pick Dana...

-BB

[Calhoun07]

I would pick Dana, too. Max...I sudder at the thought. I would have had to stop watching the show if he went all for her. And Melanie? that was more of a fleeting lust thing, I think. Dana and Terry have something deeper.

[Shriek]

I think he would go for Dana. He has saved her life more than once as Batman. And I think he would do the same as Terry. But I know he wouldn't pick Max.

[James Harvey]

I agree. Dana can see through all the times he's had to run off. She see he cares for her, and that's why she sticks around.

[Inque]

He should dump them all, being Batman will make him single anyways.


Or he should just go out with Aquagirl from the jlu.

[Bird Boy]

a..ahah! No, I change my mind..the only girl for Terry is:

Inque!!

Haha. I thought you'd say that inque..:p

-BB

[The Old Maid]

I have my own theories on this, but the long version is for another day. Basically Terry has a blind spot with women ; they lie right to his face and he can't see it. Max lies ("I will," then she doesn't ; "I won't," and she does). Melanie ... can't ask that girl the time of day because she'll lie about it. I'd say stick with Dana because she's never lied to Terry. He needs that. He's kind of stupid that way. :)

[superfreak]

I would pick Melanie. She got out of crime to be with Terry.

[Kylewayne]

NO! NO! and NO!....The perfect girl for Terry is non other than TERRY LUVR from Gothamcityusa. She is a bit obsessed with him but in a cute way ....

[DR. BELCH]

BIRD_BOY:
No, I change my mind...the only girl for Terry is: Inque!!
Why not Inque's daughter Deanna? If Terry were called upon to protect her from her mother--who's probably out for blood and borderline psychotic after what she pulled--the stress of the moment and being in such close quarters might make the girl a little lascivious. One thing leads to another, and--well, this is KWB, not Cinemax, but you see where I'm going with this. The question is, would he be honest and tell Dana? (I wouldn't--I've learned from experience that women are irrational and jealous creatures and that it never pays to discuss the other woman. ;) )

[Shriek]

Originally posted by DR. BELCH

(I wouldn't--I've learned from experience that women are irrational and jealous creatures and that it never pays to discuss the other woman. ;) )

I will keep that in mind.

[Mr. Obsession]

It would either come down to Dana or Melanie, I don't even consider Max a candidate.

The way I see it is that Terry's going to have to let Dana know about his night life at some point if he wants to keep the relationship alive. If Dana can except the Batman aspect to Terry's life than they're ment to be. If not then there will all ways be other fish in the sea.

So should things not work out between Terry and Dana, Melanie is his best bet. She does care for him and I thank that she'd be much more willing to accept Terry as Batman than Dana. Heck, if she knew that Terry was Batman she'd probably be out there fighting at his side.

[Tim Drake]

Well the only two possible choices are Dana and Melanie.

Melanie may have never lied to Terry, but he feels betrayed. Remember in the 2nd Royal Flush Gang episode she left him to fend for himself in the Joker hideout. True she didn't know that Terry is Batman but it still hurts Terry too much for him to trust her again.

Dana I see as too high school for him. She may care for Terry but she really doesn't understand or know him. I see them having fun, but I can't see a lasting fulfilling relationship between the two of them.

My bet? Terry will never make amends with Melanie and eventually leave Dana as well. He's Batman. And even though he isn't Bruce Batman people like Terry aren't destined for happiness. It comes with the cowl. True he's not as obsessive and driven as Bruce but I think that will come in time. I see an innocence lost and a much colder cynical Terry that develops throughout the series. He drops Big Time in the River. He gives up on Melanie. He outright tells Bruce in Payback that he wasn't lying to the psychiatrist. He's setting himself up to be alone.

Sorry if this is very cynical, its just what I see happening, it probably also sums up my opinions about relationships right now.

[batE]

If Max weren't black, then would she be a candidate (for all those who seem to hate her so much)[/b]


Note from DG: After talking to batE, I'm safe to say this was over-reacting and misinterpretation on both our parts. BatE ain't going anywheres and I hope he sticks around for as long as he wants. Miscommunications happen every once and awhile and I'm glad he & I were able to work things out quickly and calmly. Anyways, welcome to the boards, BatE! (quite a welcome. :))

[batE]

Um . . . OK.

First of all, I'm black myself. So I'm not sure where all the "racism" and "prejudice" comes into play in my statement.

Secondly, I asked a question: Based on the replies to this thread, Max isn't a candidate for Terry's affection. Why? Dana has been written as the typical teenage annoying girlfriend. Melanie is a thief and a liar. Blade and Chelsea don't seem to appeal to Terry. Max is smart, attractive, knows the deal and is understanding. I have no idea if Dana would be understanding if she was in on the secret: The fact of the matter is, she isn't. Period. Max is. So we can speculate all we want about what Dana MIGHT think if she knew. We KNOW what Max DOES think because she DOES know. Period.

I have no idea the ages of the poeple on this board, but censorship is just wrong. You say this a board where all types of people can come and post their thoughts and ideas. Last time I checked, I was a person. I have thoughts and ideas. Many of the thoughts and ideas on this board don't gibe with mine. But you know what? I respect them. I question them, but I respect them.

I posted the question I did because the people who said that Terry would never go for Max never gave reasons why not. If you think it's because she's annoying, put that. If you think it's because Terry would find her personality overbearing, put that. But by just saying, Terry and Max? Never, never, never makes me as a minority think that it COULD be racism. It's sad, but it's a fact of life.

I'm not trying to alienate anyone, nor am I a troublemaker. I'm active and respected in many fandoms, and I've been doing this kind of stuff a long while. I thought that this would be a cool place to discuss all facets of the show.


batE



By the by,

Slander can only be spoken, not written. And please tell me how one can "libel" a cartoon . . .

[The Old Maid]

Originally posted by batE
I'm not sure where all the "racism" and "prejudice" comes into play in my statement. I asked a question: Based on the replies to this thread, Max isn't a candidate for Terry's affection. Why?

Yes, I gathered that was what you meant.

Personally I agree that Max is smart and attractive (although I hate the hair, flecked metallic gold would look so much better! though a flattop would look best). To me the question is who would be good for Terry. My reason for Dana is that she doesn't lie. I have issues about that.

Before COTK aired there were about 20 pro-Max fans, 20 or so who didn't like her, and 15-20 who were on the fence (these are the ones I know of, anyway). So Max does have fans. I noticed a spike in the anti-Max postings after COTK, though.

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[Nightwing]

Originally posted by batE

I'm not trying to alienate anyone, nor am I a troublemaker. I'm active and respected in many fandoms, and I've been doing this kind of stuff a long while. I thought that this would be a cool place to discuss all facets of the show.



I'm glad to hear no trouble was meant. And if that's the case, then obviously mistakes might have been made. But from the Mods' point of view, what was done was what any mod would have done. The post was reported, so we acted on it. If mistakes were made let's just learn from them and, above all, put this behind us. There's no reason not to if the original post in question wasn't intended to be racially offensive.


Whew. Anyway, I was just thinking of what Old Maid said earlier today while watching Max on "Where's Terry". I don't like her hair. I do perfer longer hair on girls, but it's not that. I don't mind short hair, it's just that it looks like someone cut a piece of pink (that's right, PINK ;)) construction paper into a shape and pasted it on her head. Not sure I'd go for a flat top either. Makes me think like she's a male football player or something. Then again, 50 years could do a lot to a people's sense of style.

[batE]

Hmmmm . . . I started off not liking the pink color either, but I guess it's grown on me. I think she'd have been fine with dark hair, but I guess there were too many dark-haired people in the show (Terry, Dana, Howard, etc.)

At least her hair's not white like Blade's. Now that, to me, is truly scary.

batE

[James Harvey]

Can you imagine how bad Max would look with white hair? I wonder if Blade is gonna get some greys in there...:) Ya know, Max looks alot like that singer "Pink". I saw her video today and I could totally see Max looking like that in real life.

[DR. BELCH]

--Max and Terry as lovers. Like I said before, not a racial thing, bu t they're practically co-workers...and my rule is to never date a girl who you work with, who goes to your church, or is your classmate. If it goes to blazes, then you start to resent work, god, and school Call me a cynical [expletive deleted], but I've made that mistake in judgement before.
I wasn't too fond of the pink hair myself at first. I would have gone with either a blondish or auburn, personally....

[The Old Maid]

Originally posted by batE
I guess there were too many dark-haired people in the show (Terry, Dana, Howard, etc.)

At least her hair's not white like Blade's. Now that, to me, is truly scary.

I suppose the bizarre colors are to let us know this is the future. But you're right, what is the class princess thinking to want old-lady hair. Maybe she only dates boys with an Oedipal complex?

Going back to topic ... interesting that you mention Howard. Now there's a character who doesn't have a lot of fans. He blew up his house, he drove Dana nuts. The End. But he's been tagging along following Max ("Where's Terry," "Speak no evil"). Maybe it's because he doesn't have a gift for making friends, but she doesn't do a lot to discourage him. He's going to think they're a couple if she's not careful. I mean, she's letting him hoover up all her food ("Speak no evil") and that's pretty pushy. Tell him to get lost or something ... :)

[Nightwing]

I've never noticed a Howard and Dana thing, just a Terry and Dana thing, begeting a Howard awkwardness thing since he's not good with making friends.

That's a good point about the white hair thing. I don't think there are too many characters with dark hair. That seems kinda weird to me. But the white hair thing sure is freaky!

And ya know, yeah I think the pink hair thing with Max is a bit weird, but I dunno if I'd have her blonde. It seems like that's a generic, and obvious way to go. Maybe not pink exactly, but something that looks fitting, but also original.

[James]

While I think Dana would be a wonderful girlfriend for Terry - I'm never too sure whether he is THAT interested in her. While she seems to adore him, I don't see him returning the same attention to her.

I agree, to my irritation, that Max and Terry would probably more suited. I can't help feeling Terry's interest in Dana is more as high school 'trophey' and that after graduation his interest in her would wain.

I think Max and Terry's relationship would certainly be more volitile as in some ways the two are very similar... who knows? It might work.... Dana would probably be the best if she knew he was Batman and he loved her (two BIG ifs) as she would probably give a distance from his work... Max would get involved and you can't be Batman and be worrying about you're Girl at the same time.... With Max it would have to be Max, or Batman...