CN Ratings Thread: Part 3

[Space Cadet]

Its time for part three of the CN ratings thread.

Like the last thread, I'll start off the first post with a trip down memory lane. More specifically, the year 2001:


A Year of Record Ratings & Delivery: Cartoon Network Scores Highest-Ever Performance in Its History for All Key Demos
December 11, 2001
Cartoon Network will wrap up 2001 with multiple new records for ratings and delivery of target audiences, along with best-ever performances of original series premieres and annual programming specials.

Cartoon Network set new annual rating and delivery records — for both total day and prime time — with kids 2-11, kids 6-11 and adults 18-34, and equaled the 2000 ratings performance with tweens 9-14.
The network posted the largest year-to-year net total day delivery increase of any ad-supported cable network with adults 18-34 (+51,000), tweens 9-14 (54,000), kids 6-11 (+87,000), kids 2-11 (+124,000) and boys 9-14 (+43,000).
In prime time, Cartoon Network showed the largest prime time year-to-year net delivery gain of any ad-supported cable network with kids 6-11 (+110,000) and kids 2-11 (+165,000) and tied for the largest gain with boys 9-14 (+38,000).
Cartoon Network is #1 for the year in prime time among ad-supported cable networks for kids 2-11 (4.1), kids 6-11 (3.8) and boys 9-14 (2.8) ratings.
The network is #1 for the year in prime time delivery of kids 2-11 (1,154,000) and #2 with tweens 9-14 (382,000) and kids 6-11 (645,000).
Cartoon Network also tied for #1 (with Nickelodeon) in total day ratings for boys 9-14 (1.9) for the year.
Cartoon Network, with a 1.1 total day household rating, stands in third place among ad-supported cable networks for 2001.
In prime time, with a 1.7 household rating, Cartoon Network tied for second place (with TBS Superstation and USA) for the year among ad-supported cable networks.
With the help of its new three-hour Adult Swim franchise introduced this year, Cartoon Network will jump to #8 from last year's #10 ranking in total day delivery of adults 18-34 (177,000).
Cartoon Network's performance with adults 18-34 out-delivers such well-known networks as Comedy Central, FX, VH1, Sci-Fi Channel, the Discovery Channel, E! and TV Land.
Since its Sept. 2 launch, Adult Swim (Sundays & Thursdays, 10 p.m.-1 a.m.) has contributed to the network's adult 18-34 rating, posting 67 percent growth in ratings and 84 percent growth in delivery compared to 2000.
Justice League (Sat., Nov. 17, 7-8:15 p.m.), a new Cartoon Network original series this year, scored as the most-watched original premiere in Cartoon Network history with 1,770,000 homes and 4,114,000 different viewers tuning in. The premiere also posted the highest adults 18-34 rating (1.6) and delivery (755,000) for an original telecast.
Samurai Jack debuted in 2001 (Aug. 10, 7 p.m.) to a 1.7 household rating and delivered 1,252,000 households. It also earned its highest demographic rating from kids 6-11 who posted a 3.9 rating and delivery of 669,000 viewers. Ratings for adults 18-34 (0.8) increased a substantial 167 percent compared to the time period last year, and delivery jumped 144 percent to 347,000 viewers.
June Bugs (June 1-3, Fri. 11 p.m.-Mon. 12 a.m.), the network's annual three-day tribute to the lord of Looney Tunes, Bugs Bunny, racked up powerful ratings to become the most-watched stunt ever on Cartoon Network. With a 1.6 average household rating (+14%) and delivery of an average 1,146,000 homes (+25%), the stunt also charted its best-ever kids 6-11 rating (2.8, +47%), tweens 9-14 rating (1.7, +21%) and adults 18-34 rating (0.7, +40%). Cartoon Network, currently seen in more than 78.7 million U.S. homes and 145 countries around the world, is Turner Broadcasting System, Inc.'s 24-hour, ad-supported cable service offering the best in animated entertainment. Drawing from the world's largest cartoon library, Cartoon Network also showcases unique original ventures such as The Powerpuff Girls, Justice League, Dexter's Laboratory, Samurai Jack, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Ed, Edd n Eddy and other Cartoon Cartoons. Since its launch in 1992, Cartoon Network has remained one of ad-supported cable's highest-rated networks. Cartoon Network's Web site is located at http://CartoonNetwork.com (AOL Keyword: Cartoon Network).
Turner Broadcasting System, Inc., an AOL Time Warner company, is a major producer of news and entertainment product around the world and the leading provider of programming for the basic cable industry.
RATING PERIODS: 2001 Year-to-Date (1/01/01 - 12/09/01, 49 of 52 weeks)
SOURCE: Turner Entertainment Research from Nielsen Media Research data.
NOTES All ratings based on coverage homes for the network.

Contact Info:
Laurie Goldberg
404/885-4205
laurie.goldberg@turner.com

Joe Swaney
404/885-0657
joe.swaney@turner.com

Ah, back when CN was the number two kids network in the land. Times have changed.

[J!!!]

But the time may be returning:D

[warnerbroman]

But the time may be returning:Dbut not with the good shows of that time

[Bryan]

Here it is... the moment we've all been waiting for...

Ratings for December 30 - January 4:

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1446; K6-11 899; TWEENS 9-14 660
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 952; K6-11 636; TWEENS 9-14 492
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 677; K6-11 473; TWEENS 9-14 368
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 176; K6-11 86; TWEENS 9-14 63
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1496; K6-11 942; TWEENS 9-14 669
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1083; K6-11 774; TWEENS 9-14 573
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 603; K6-11 414; TWEENS 9-14 311
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 197; K6-11 91; TWEENS 9-14 66
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Thursday, January 1, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1212; K6-11 712; TWEENS 9-14 530
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1179; K6-11 878; TWEENS 9-14 732
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 744; K6-11 461; TWEENS 9-14 382
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 141; K6-11 80; TWEENS 9-14 51
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Friday, January 2, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1444; K6-11 827; TWEENS 9-14 605
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1104; K6-11 747; TWEENS 9-14 548
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 699; K6-11 505; TWEENS 9-14 413
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 206; K6-11 126; TWEENS 9-14 76
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Saturday, January 3, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1523; K6-11 960; TWEENS 9-14 791
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1030; K6-11 655; TWEENS 9-14 496
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 588; K6-11 373; TWEENS 9-14 305
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 181; K6-11 79; TWEENS 9-14 49
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1384; K6-11 871; TWEENS 9-14 660
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 982; K6-11 664; TWEENS 9-14 507
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 627; K6-11 407; TWEENS 9-14 256
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 151; K6-11 81; TWEENS 9-14 39
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

[Bryan]

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Thursday, January 1, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1212; K6-11 712; TWEENS 9-14 530
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1179; K6-11 878; TWEENS 9-14 732
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 744; K6-11 461; TWEENS 9-14 382
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 141; K6-11 80; TWEENS 9-14 51
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

So, it wasn't able to get #2 for the day in all demos above, but it did do better than 1/1/2008 and 1/1/2007, see here for those (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=3106510&postcount=448).

[Comics_the_QB]

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Thursday, January 1, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1212; K6-11 712; TWEENS 9-14 530
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1179; K6-11 878; TWEENS 9-14 732
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 744; K6-11 461; TWEENS 9-14 382
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 141; K6-11 80; TWEENS 9-14 51
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Not as good as I would've hoped... :sad:

But if it did better than 2007 & 2008, then mabey CN will accept this.

*hopes for the best*

[chdr]

While it didn't beat Nick or Disney, I think it could qualify as good ratings. This is the best ratings for New Year's in a while, and the numbers rose considerably compared to all the other days in that report.

[D Dubbs]

Yeah, those ratings are pretty mediocre. A "good" day would be about 100 or so higher in each demographic. I wouldn't expect Looney Tunes to come back at a prime time spot now, although a weekday mid-afternoon slot might be plausible.

[EscaflownePilot]

Bah, this is what I was afraid of. Ratings not so terrible that it's a certainty we'd never see LT again, but also not so great that we know it's a shoe-in. I was hoping the ratings would give me some idea of whether to expect to see LT on the schedule again, and this most certainly does not.

[Racattack!Force]

While the Looney Tunes ratings are better than what CN got in past years on New Years, they don't exactly say that LT will get a slot on the network again. However a 744,000 with K6-11 is pretty good for CN. That's twice their normal total day ratings.

[macattack]

I think the ratings report gives LT a 60% chance of returning to CN, probably not in a prime-time slot if it does, but probably a morning or afternoon slot.

[warnerbroman]

Yeah, those ratings are pretty mediocre. A "good" day would be about 100 or so higher in each demographic. I wouldn't expect Looney Tunes to come back at a prime time spot now, although a weekday mid-afternoon slot might be plausible.OH Noo!! *fetal position*

[chdr]

I think the ratings report gives LT a 60% chance of returning to CN, probably not in a prime-time slot if it does, but probably a morning or afternoon slot.To be honest, I never expected LT to get a prime-time slot. If it comes, it will most likely air in the mornings with Tom and Jerry, regardless of the ratings.

[Nexonius]

744,000 viewers in the 2-11 department isn't bad at all. It was going against Wizards of Waverly Place on Disney Channel and whatever Nickelodeon had on. And to do that is very surprising.



Of course, if CN promoted it a little more abundantly.....

[Kazuya Prower]

Not to sound so negative or anything, but if Nick and Disney's ratings can beat a Looney Tunes marathon, then the future generations of children are hopeless.

[Nexonius]

But....Looney Tunes had been off CN for 4 years. Had the LT gang stayed on CN and still had a NYD marathon, they would have done better.

[Kazuya Prower]

But....Looney Tunes had been off CN for 4 years. Had the LT gang stayed on CN and still had a NYD marathon, they would have done better.

Believe me, I tried getting my thirteen year old little brother into classic cartoons, but he considers them old and lame.

[Racattack!Force]

Believe me, I tried getting my thirteen year old little brother into classic cartoons, but he considers them old and lame.I'm 14 and I consider them pretty good. :sweat:

[J!!!]

While the Looney Tunes ratings are better than what CN got in past years on New Years, they don't exactly say that LT will get a slot on the network again. However a 744,000 with K6-11 is pretty good for CN. That's twice their normal total day ratings.
Should I be happy that it got bad ratings because I don't really like the shorts or sad that it failed on my favorite kids network.

[Ishtar]

This is pretty dissapointing. I hope CN at least considers giving Looney Tunes SOME slot on the regular schedule. I mean, if they can air Tom & Jerry still, Looney Tunes shouldn't be too big of a deal. Hell, I'd be fine it at least Boomerang would start airing Looney Tunes regularly again.

[peterg14]

Wow, I'm surprised Nick's ratings were so high, like a giant yellow spongy punch in the mouth to CN, and even Disney.

I didn't expect LT to get blockbuster ratings, but at least it beat last year's New Year's Day.

[Mickialla]

I just got punched in the face...hard. These ratings are nothing more than average. To think that Nick, who did NOTHING on New Years' Day, out beat LOONEY TUNES which are probably the best cartoons ever made; it's a punch in the face...and it hurts...and it bleeds. Still we can only hope that CN will notice that these ratings are better in comparison to the past few years, and that they will notice the great fan reaction on these forums that the Looney Tunes had. For these characters to be deprived a slot on TV is a crime.

[DarthGonzo]

I'm not gloating (because it is a shame the Looney Tunes didn't do better) but really, how could anyone say they anticipate CN giving Disney Channel a run for their money this year with ratings like that? CN will always be number three, even if their overall rating ratings have gone up while Disney's overall ratings have gone down (as I understand it). Disney is still in a far enough lead that it doesn't even matter.

The only reason people here think CN can beat their competition is because the forums here are full of CN fanatics in the first place.


Still we can only hope that CN will notice that these ratings are better in comparison to the past few years, and that they will notice the great fan reaction on these forums...

And you can hold it right there. What does that matter? None of us (well, almost none of us) are even in the traget demo that CN wants anyway. What do they care if we enjoyed the marathon? They are more concerned with what the young'uns thought of the marathon. For all we know many of those kids were peeved because cartoons they didn't know pre-empted stuff they'd rather watch, resulting in them turning on an old reliable like Spongebob.

The Looney tunes are masterpieces and all but anyone who is actually shocked that Spongebob took home new years day ought to get their head examined.

[warnerbroman]

I just got punched in the face...hard. These ratings are nothing more than average. To think that Nick, who did NOTHING on New Years' Day, out beat LOONEY TUNES which are probably the best cartoons ever made; it's a punch in the face...and it hurts...and it bleeds. Still we can only hope that CN will notice that these ratings are better in comparison to the past few years, and that they will notice the great fan reaction on these forums that the Looney Tunes had. For these characters to be deprived a slot on TV is a crime.it a punch in the balls to me

[DarthGonzo]

it a punch in the balls to me

People really have to stop taking this stuff so personally. We know how great these cartoons are. But do kids? Looney Tunes shorts haven't aired on CN in years. Kids are unfamiliar with them. Again, my best guess is that kids tuned in, saw cartoons featuring a lot of talking animals making dated pop culture references and then changed the channel to something more current and popular.

Kids didn't tune in to Looney Tunes only to say "Wow, these cartoons look old. Therefore they must be important. I must watch them all day long!" Sadly, it doesn't work that way.

And unfortunately, I can see this leading to a lot more Spongebob hate.

[chdr]

I never expected LT to beat Nick or Disney, but I thought LT could have done better.

[MasterofRoku]

I never expected LT to beat Nick or Disney, but I thought LT could have done better.
Exactly...really I hope CN considers in giving LT a weekaday slot with T&J.

[DarthGonzo]

Exactly...really I hope CN considers in giving LT a weekaday slot with T&J.

Well they might. Lets not rule anything out yet. Who knows.

[Mickialla]

I'm not gloating (because it is a shame the Looney Tunes didn't do better) but really, how could anyone say they anticipate CN giving Disney Channel a run for their money this year with ratings like that? CN will always be number three, even if their overall rating ratings have gone up while Disney's overall ratings have gone down (as I understand it). Disney is still in a far enough lead that it doesn't even matter.

The only reason people here think CN can beat their competition is because the forums here are full of CN fanatics in the first place.



And you can hold it right there. What does that matter? None of us (well, almost none of us) are even in the traget demo that CN wants anyway. What do they care if we enjoyed the marathon? They are more concerned with what the young'uns thought of the marathon. For all we know many of those kids were peeved because cartoons they didn't know pre-empted stuff they'd rather watch, resulting in them turning on an old reliable like Spongebob.

The Looney tunes are masterpieces and all but anyone who is actually shocked that Spongebob took home new years day ought to get their head examined.

CN hasn't always been number 3; look at the first post of this thread. May I also mention that Looney Tunes was airing during that year. And yeah, Looney Tunes hasn't been seen on the network in a while, but it's like kids have totally forgotten. It'd be pretty sad if kids these days have absolutely no idea who Bugs Bunny is. So with that being said, and with Looney Tunes' previous success, I think it would be logical for us to think that there would be some chance of CN coming in second without us having to have our heads examined. But it doesn't matter, since we were wrong. Why we were wrong could be attributed to what you said, or it could be something totally different. All I hope is that Cartoon Network sees the cup as half-full and not half-empty and puts Looney Tunes back on. After all, one day doesn't do as much as a weekday slot. Maybe if it is like you said and that kids really don't know who Bugs Bunny is, then it would be give to give it a "test slot" to get kids to refamiliarize themselves with the characters for a few months: That's the only efficient way to reintroduce Looney Tunes to kids. It's not that Looney Tunes are no longer funny, it's just that kids haven't seen them constantly and so don't know they're funny yet. In 2000 or 2001, kids still found Looney Tunes funny. And I'm sure that the tastes' of kids haven't changed so drastically that what the generation of kids in 2001 found funny is different from what the generation of kids in 2009 find funny.

[Racattack!Force]

Frankly, I personally think it has chance with a weekday slot, since the K2-11 ratings are a little better than average and higher than previous New Year's. :shrug:

[Space Cadet]

Of course, if CN promoted it a little more abundantly.....

I remember seeing the commercial for it during almost every break. CN did the best it could. Sure it wasn't Clone Wars-type promotion, but I hope people weren't expecting that. It seemed the level of promotion was on par with a Total Drama Island episode.


Also, there was an article about the marathons on that day(including the LT marathon):


On New Year's Day,
kids, kids and kids

Marathons were all over the dial but kid networks did best

By Toni Fitzgerald
Jan 7, 2009


http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman2/uploads/1/wizards09.jpg New Year’s Day is synonymous with hangovers and new diet plans, but also with cable marathons. Jan. 1 is full of them, with many networks turning their airwaves over to hours and hours of repeats of a single show as viewers tune in to catch up on favorites or watch old familiars.
This year it seems kids’ marathons were the big winners. Though day-long repeats of “Monk” on USA and “Twilight Zone” on Sci Fi did well, cartoons and kid-coms did even better.
Disney Channel’s live-action comedy “Wizards of Waverly Place” claimed three of cable’s top six spots in total viewers on New Year’s Day.
That pushed the network to its most-watched day in total viewers in almost eight months, as its five most-watched episodes on the day averaged 3.1 million viewers. Disney was also No. 1 for the day among kids 6-11 and tweens 9-14, airing nearly all of the day’s top-15-rated shows in those demos.
Nickelodeon’s “SpongeBob SquarePants” averaged 2.88 million viewers for its top five episodes and made the day’s top five among all cable networks with a repeat of the movie “SpongeBob Atlantis Pantis” ranking fourth.
And the five most-watched episodes of Cartoon Network’s “Looney Toons” marathon averaged 2.62 million viewers, or more than double its total-day average for the full week.
The big numbers for the kids’ marathons can be explained by a number of factors, not the least all those holiday hangovers – kids may have been watching TV while their parents slept off the previous night’s activities.
Kids and parents also may have been watching the shows together. Many of the other networks’ marathons, like Spike’s “CSI: NY” and Tru TV’s “The Smoking Gun Presents,” weren’t exactly family oriented.
Finally, kids may have been watching kiddie fare while their parents tuned in to the college football bowl games running on broadcast that day.
The only adult-themed marathon to draw better than Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network was TNT’s “Bones,” the forensic drama that has been gaining viewers on Fox this season.
“Bones” was the day’s top scripted show on cable, with its best telecast averaging 3.27 million viewers. Its top five episodes on the day averaged 3.01 million viewers, just behind “Wizards.”
So, it seems the marathon did well for CN.



Week of 12/29-1/4:

Household Rating:

Primetime: 1,008,000(#11 for cable last week)
Total Day: 978,000(#6 for cable last week)

Viewers 2+:

Primetime: Didn't chart for the week
Total Day: 1,298,000(#6 for cable last week)


Here are the charts:

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K2-11 (000) 12/29/08-1/4/09 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 1401 DSNY*: 1220
DSNY*: 957 CARTOON: 686
CARTOON: 655 NAN**: 585
NAN**: 368 NOGGIN: 378
NOGGIN: 317 TOON DIS: 141
ADSM**: 233 BET: 140
TOON DIS.: 138 ESPN: 132
NICKTOONS: 106 NICKTOONS: 120
BET: 75 TLC: 95
ESPN: 70 DISCOVERY: 85
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K6-11 (000) 12/29/08-1/4/09 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 863 DSNY*: 969
DSNY*: 673 CARTOON: 457
CARTOON: 440 NAN**: 425
NAN**: 288 ESPN: 89
ADSM**: 128 BET: 87
TOON DIS.: 72 TOON DIS: 67
NOGGIN: 64 NICKTOONS: 64
NICKTOONS: 63 NOGGIN: 63
ESPN: 50 DISCOVERY: 56
BET: 49 THE N: 45
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported Networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among Tweens 9-14 (000) 12/29/08-1/4/09 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 652 DSNY*: 790
DSNY*: 544 NAN**: 507
NAN**: 408 CARTOON: 364
CARTOON: 338 BET: 126
ADSM**: 180 ESPN: 115
ESPN: 80 COMEDY: 93
BET: 76 MTV: 92
MTV: 73 DISCOVERY: 81
THE N: 63 THE N: 67
DISCOVERY: 60 NICKTOONS: 45
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

[chdr]

The fact that LT made it close to Spongebob makes me a happier panda.

[Comics_the_QB]

The fact that LT made it close to Spongebob makes me a happier panda.

Yeah, I was suprised by those.

[Dr.Pepper]

Well I hope that Cn thinks that LT did well enough to get a time slot, even if its in the middle of the day

[XDogg]

Well I hope that Cn thinks that LT did well enough to get a time slot, even if its in the middle of the day
Hey why is everyone so sad? Keep your head up everyone alright.;) I'm sure that if CN really focus this year(Summer mostly) They get a least Number 2 soon. We beleive in you CN, Who's with me!:D

[warnerbroman]

Hey why is everyone so sad? Keep your head up everyone alright.;) I'm sure that if CN really focus this year(Summer mostly) They get a least Number 2 soon. We beleive in you CN, Who's with me!:DI do! *puts hand in*

[J!!!]

I am too *puts hand in also* may be if they really want to make summer great they could have summer specific blocks like in summer 2005 those bumps alone made me watch only CN during the summer.

[Anthonynotes]

While I'm also disappointed it didn't beat Nick or Disney, it *did* do twice as well as its usual daytime lineup... which might bode well for seeing a return of Bugs and the gang to a timeslot on CN.

[Racattack!Force]

Well, the marathon did do well. :p You guys shouldn't worry so much.

[Pomegranate]

Well, the marathon did do well. :p You guys shouldn't worry so much.

Because there needs to be more cartoons with broad family appeal like there was in the olden days.:shrug:

[Mickialla]

Well, the marathon did do well. :p You guys shouldn't worry so much.

Yea, it did a lot better than we initially thought. I think there's now a decent chance at Looney Tunes returning.

[rainstorm46]

Yea, it did a lot better than we initially thought. I think there's now a decent chance at Looney Tunes returning.

Unfortunately I think Cartoon Network would have put Looney Tunes back on already if they wanted to air it.

[Mickialla]

Unfortunately I think Cartoon Network would have put Looney Tunes back on already if they wanted to air it.

I don't. It's only been a week. I'm not expecting it to return for at least a month, maybe two, that is, if it does return.

[Taco Wiz]

The ratings for the marathon would've been better if it wasn't for the fact that most kids haven't seen Looney Tunes before. Bugs and Daffy are just famous for being famous right now. Well, when it comes to kids. They know who the characters are, but have never seen them.

[Deadman]

it looks like the marathon did pretty good. i hope it gets a place on cn now.

[Blackstar]

Should I be happy that it got bad ratings because I don't really like the shorts or sad that it failed on my favorite kids network.


Twice what CN's normal daily ratings are does not equal bad. The Looney Tunes marathon may not have beaten Nick or Disney, but still, it did pretty well.

[Master Moron]

I'm 14 and I consider them pretty good. :sweat:

Well, I'm 26, and I think they're kind of lame. Sorry.

[DarthGonzo]

Well, I'm 26, and I think they're kind of lame. Sorry.

Way to flamebait. Care to elaborate?

[Master Moron]

Way to flamebait. Care to elaborate?

Well, I used to watch Looney Tunes as a kid, but I've grown out of it. I just don't find slapstick humor all that funny anymore. Or perhaps, I should say, the slapstick humor of Looney Tunes doesn't compare to the more adult cartoons of the modern age. I mean, now you can have cartoons with blood and gore, so seeing Elmer Fudd with birds chirping over his head just doesn't compare.

[creativerealms]

Well, I'm 26, and I think they're kind of lame. Sorry.

Given what you like thats not surprising.

[The Overlord]

Well, I'm 26, and I think they're kind of lame. Sorry.

You are not CN's demo, why should anyone care?

[Mickialla]

Well, I used to watch Looney Tunes as a kid, but I've grown out of it. I just don't find slapstick humor all that funny anymore. Or perhaps, I should say, the slapstick humor of Looney Tunes doesn't compare to the more adult cartoons of the modern age. I mean, now you can have cartoons with blood and gore, so seeing Elmer Fudd with birds chirping over his head just doesn't compare.

Yes, blood and gore makes every cartoon better...:shrug:

Note the sarcasm.

[Classic Speedy]

Also, slapstick isn't the only aspect that draws people to Looney Tunes.

Anyway, I'm just glad the marathon didn't bomb. Sounds like it did pretty well, though not earth-shatteringly well. Not when SpongeBob still exists... Still, there's hope yet.

[DarthGonzo]

Well, I used to watch Looney Tunes as a kid, but I've grown out of it. I just don't find slapstick humor all that funny anymore. Or perhaps, I should say, the slapstick humor of Looney Tunes doesn't compare to the more adult cartoons of the modern age. I mean, now you can have cartoons with blood and gore, so seeing Elmer Fudd with birds chirping over his head just doesn't compare.

Ok and...?

Blood and gore aren't something that's needed to make a cartoon better. So your really telling us that the only way you'll accept cartoon violence is if the characters come out of it with bloody noses, cracked skulls and exposed intestines?

How do you grow out of Looney Tunes anyway? That stuff was never intended just for kids in the first place.

[creativerealms]

Well it could have been worse the marathon could had less ratings then nornal on the first. Sure I would have loved if looney toons brought great ratings for Cartoon Network on the first. This means that the marathon did not drive away their normal audence and that is a good thing but will it be enough for looney toons to get a daily spot? I hope so but I'm not betting on it.

Still this really is not a bad thing it could have been much worse.

[tucsoncoyote]

Because there needs to be more cartoons with broad family appeal like there was in the olden days.:shrug:

Now here's a guy who's thinking with his head on straight. After all it was the movie critic Richard Maltin who once stated that and I quote "Cartoons were never meant (entirely) for Kids." Some of the older Tex Avery Cartoons at MGM were indeed bordering on what would have been called "Racy" or even "Thought provoking" but most people today like our next hapless victim tends to see cartoon slapstick as dare I say it.."Lame"


Well, I'm 26, and I think they're kind of lame. Sorry.

Well I'm 46 and to me Looney Toons are classic material that people who are in the animation business should go back over for ideas on how to do their own Cartoons of today. After all Today's cartoons shouldn't be totally bloody and gorey. Rather there should be some real good humor interspersed with action and even comedy. I mean take a look at TDI. Here's a show that literally plays all of the Tex Avery angles and then some (including the toilet humor, the fart jokes, the eye dropping nosebleeds when someone shows their chest..(Booyeah) and even the weird twists of your favorite genre blood and gore. But remember this and remember it well. Most Cartoons that are in today's shows had parents and even grandparents and Looney Toons are the Great Grand-daddy of all of the WB lot. They are in fact the predeccessors to what Kids like today, including today's twists of toilet humor, and jokes, as well as the humor that belies there in.


Ok and...?

Blood and gore aren't something that's needed to make a cartoon better. So your really telling us that the only way you'll accept cartoon violence is if the characters come out of it with bloody noses, cracked skulls and exposed intestines?

How do you grow out of Looney Tunes anyway? That stuff was never intended just for kids in the first place.


Now this is something we can finally Agree on here Darth, and for good reason. Looney Toons was in fact the whole reason why cartoons today are in a lot of ways like their predecessors, minus the blood and gore I might add. I mean when you see the cartoons of old you had something you played with, literally toyed with and of course the laws of "Toon Physics" and "Pronoun trouble" always came into play. Frankly I don't mind a shocking scene from time to time, but to see someone get a pie in the face? That's classic.. To see them get blown up with an explosive before disintegrating into a pile of fine black powder, also classic. and if you think blood and guts is the way to go, what about the many times Wiley Coyote got pinned to a Saguarro cactus, complete with sharp needles..I bet there were a lot of times, the ambulance chasers came along to scrape him off the pavement.

But while Blood and Gore are okay in limited amounts, it's rather how the humor that is conveyed that really counts..be it a pie in the face, a safe/anvil dropping on someone's head, or even the thwack of a baseball bat against someone's cranium.

In short While today's shows are more bloody and gorey.. their roots started somewhere. and we have to look no further than Looney Toons..

So in the end, I'm with Darth Gonzo on this one..


Well it could have been worse the marathon could had less ratings then nornal on the first. Sure I would have loved if looney toons brought great ratings for Cartoon Network on the first. This means that the marathon did not drive away their normal audence and that is a good thing but will it be enough for looney toons to get a daily spot? I hope so but I'm not betting on it.

Still this really is not a bad thing it could have been much worse.

Indeed it could have been, and I'm thinking that maybe in fact Looney Toons might have opened up a whole new can of worms so to speak. After all while Spongebob was on Nick that day and Disney was flooded with Wizards of Waverly Place, it's good to see that 744,000 people who fell in the demographic definitely were probably asking their parents "what are Looney toons" This comes back to my first part of the post. After all Cartoons aren't meant for just one demographic alone. Like Carl Maltin said, "Cartoons aren't meant (Entirely) for Kids." Grownups watch them too and in the end the 40 something mom and dad and the 60 or even 70 year old grandparent is still in my eyes as bright as a 6-11 year old watching it for the first time. After all Cartoons are meant to be a family adventure not a demographically challenged one.

:coyote:

[XDogg]

Well, I used to watch Looney Tunes as a kid, but I've grown out of it. I just don't find slapstick humor all that funny anymore. Or perhaps, I should say, the slapstick humor of Looney Tunes doesn't compare to the more adult cartoons of the modern age. I mean, now you can have cartoons with blood and gore, so seeing Elmer Fudd with birds chirping over his head just doesn't compare.
Ignore him guy's. He's just trying to start something that we can complete.:mad:

[J!!!]

Hey maybe Looney tunes will be on CN Video and the hits will be enough for a 10 am weekday slot.:D(That is how Mar got on Toonami for a few weeks)

[Mickialla]

Hey maybe Looney tunes will be on CN Video and the hits will be enough for a 10 am weekday slot.:D(That is how Mar got on Toonami for a few weeks)

Looney Tunes doesn't belong in a 10 AM slot. First off, no one will probably even see it if it aired then. Plus, Looney Tunes were originally made for adults, most of whom aren't home during 10 am. I say an early-mid evening slot (6-7 or 7-8) would fit best for Looney Tunes. That's the way it was during the Powerhouse Era, and that's when it was most successful.

[Antiyonder]

True, it got more ratings than Cartoon Network usually got, they were probably hoping for it to go to the top. That's why I'm wondering if they find the results satisfiable.

If it does make a regular return, I'd say it belong with Clone Wars, Total Drama Island and 6teen since it's not too kid friendly, but not entirely inappropriate for children either.

[Racattack!Force]

The marathon had a freaking TV-G rating. :sweat: It's meant for families. The kids would laugh at the slapstick while the adults will find humor in the sexual innuendoes and such.

[Antiyonder]

The marathon had a freaking TV-G rating. :sweat: It's meant for families. The kids would laugh at the slapstick while the adults will find humor in the sexual innuendoes and such.

Okay so even then it isn't counted as a kid's cartoon, so I think it would work as an inbetweener for the shows targeted for the younger and older audience.

[Space Cadet]

Final K6-11 Ratings for Saturday, January 3, 2009 Cable Networks only (Live + SD Data):
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data
NICKELODEON 3.2/20 Avg. (7a-1p)
Jimmy Neutron 0.5/12; Jimmy Neutron 1.3/18; Fairly OddParents 1.9/20; Fairly OddParents 2.6/21; SpongeBob SquarePants 3.2/20; SpongeBob SquarePants 3.8/21; Back at the Barnyard 3.6/18; Mighty B! 3.7/18; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.2/20; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.1/19; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.6/23; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.7/22
CARTOON NETWORK 1.8/11 Avg. (7a-1p)
George of the Jungle 1.4/20; Transformers: Animated 1.6/17; Secret Saturdays 1.9/15; Pokemon: Diamond & Pearl Battle Dimensions 2.0/13; Star Wars: Clone Wars 2.0/11;Ben 10: Alien Force 2.2/11; Batman: Brave & The Bold 2.0/10; Bakugan 1.9/9; Robotboy 1.8/9; Ben 10: Alien Force 1.4/7; Ben 10: Alien Force 1.5/7
DISNEY CHANNEL 1.8/11 Avg. (7a-1p)
The Wiggles 1.5/24; Little Einsteins 1.6/21; My Friends Tigger & Pooh 1.5/17; My Friends Tigger & Pooh 1.7/13; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 1.9/12; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 1.8/10; Imagination Movers 1.9/9; Handy Manny 2.0/9; Higglytown Heroes 1.9/9; Charlie and Lola 1.8/8; Mulan (95 minutes) 2.1/10
TOON DISNEY (Jetix) 0.5/3 Avg. (7a-1p)
The Suite Life of Zack & Cody 0.2/3; Phineas and Ferb 0.2/2; Phineas and Ferb 0.3/3; Phineas and Ferb 0.6/5; The Fox and the Hound (110 minutes) 0.5/3; Shaun the Sheep 0.3/2; House of Mouse 0.5/2; House of Mouse 0.5/2; House of Mouse 0.7/3; House of Mouse 0.4/2


The weekend took a hit as all the ratings were down on all four networks. Also, the 7:30 AM rerun of George of the Jungle beat out a rerun of Jimmy Neutron at 7:30.

[Racattack!Force]

*jaw drop* Well, its about darn time. :sweat:

[Freak]

I just turned 13 this November. And I didn't like The LT THAT much. I watched like 4 lof them. But I would rather watch them then a re-run of Spongebob and i LOVE 6teen and TDI. Star Wars not so much not a SW nerd :P

[Kids WB! RuleZ]

Final K6-11 Ratings for Saturday, January 3, 2009 Cable Networks only (Live + SD Data):
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data
NICKELODEON 3.2/20 Avg. (7a-1p)
Jimmy Neutron 0.5/12; Jimmy Neutron 1.3/18; Fairly OddParents 1.9/20; Fairly OddParents 2.6/21; SpongeBob SquarePants 3.2/20; SpongeBob SquarePants 3.8/21; Back at the Barnyard 3.6/18; Mighty B! 3.7/18; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.2/20; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.1/19; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.6/23; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.7/22
CARTOON NETWORK 1.8/11 Avg. (7a-1p)
George of the Jungle 1.4/20; Transformers: Animated 1.6/17; Secret Saturdays 1.9/15; Pokemon: Diamond & Pearl Battle Dimensions 2.0/13; Star Wars: Clone Wars 2.0/11;Ben 10: Alien Force 2.2/11; Batman: Brave & The Bold 2.0/10; Bakugan 1.9/9; Robotboy 1.8/9; Ben 10: Alien Force 1.4/7; Ben 10: Alien Force 1.5/7
DISNEY CHANNEL 1.8/11 Avg. (7a-1p)
The Wiggles 1.5/24; Little Einsteins 1.6/21; My Friends Tigger & Pooh 1.5/17; My Friends Tigger & Pooh 1.7/13; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 1.9/12; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 1.8/10; Imagination Movers 1.9/9; Handy Manny 2.0/9; Higglytown Heroes 1.9/9; Charlie and Lola 1.8/8; Mulan (95 minutes) 2.1/10
TOON DISNEY (Jetix) 0.5/3 Avg. (7a-1p)
The Suite Life of Zack & Cody 0.2/3; Phineas and Ferb 0.2/2; Phineas and Ferb 0.3/3; Phineas and Ferb 0.6/5; The Fox and the Hound (110 minutes) 0.5/3; Shaun the Sheep 0.3/2; House of Mouse 0.5/2; House of Mouse 0.5/2; House of Mouse 0.7/3; House of Mouse 0.4/2


The weekend took a hit as all the ratings were down on all four networks. Also, the 7:30 AM rerun of George of the Jungle beat out a rerun of Jimmy Neutron at 7:30.
Oh my Gosh. Its a dream. Cartoon Network finally came in second. This calls for a party!!!!!!:D

[Racattack!Force]

Oh my Gosh. Its a dream. Cartoon Network finally came in second. This calls for a party!!!!!!:DUm....they always come in second on Saturdays.

[D Dubbs]

Um....they always come in second on Saturdays.

Yeah, and this week they actually didn't get second, but rather tied for second. I've always wondered how Disney's preschool block is always so close in ratings to DAS...

[J!!!]

Wow TSS needs a better Saturday morning time everything after it does better (exept Transformers : Animated)

[Racattack!Force]

Wow TSS needs a better Saturday morning time everything after it does better (exept Transformers : Animated)They should be expected, since the ratings SHOULD be increasing as the morning goes on.

[Space Cadet]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/13/monk-wwe-raw-secret-life-and-icarly-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/10720):


Star Wars: The Clone Wars(Friday 9-9:30 PM) - 2.308 million viewers

[DarthGonzo]

Here's something to think about. The same amount of people who watched Secret Saturdays, Ben 10, Batman, Clone Wars and Pokemon on Cartoon Network watched Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Handy Mandy, My Friends Tigger and Pooh and Higglytown Heroes on Disney Channel.

[tucsoncoyote]

Here's something to think about. The same amount of people who watched Secret Saturdays, Ben 10, Batman, Clone Wars and Pokemon on Cartoon Network watched Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Handy Mandy, My Friends Tigger and Pooh and Higglytown Heroes on Disney Channel.

Your point being...? That preschoolers age 2-5 have as much power as kids 6-11?

Remember Disney Channel Saturday mornings aren't really targeting kids 6-11 like CN's Saturday mornings are. So then this brings up an interesting conundrum. Either (A) there are an equal amount of 2-5 and 6-11 year olds watching two different channels at the same time in two different rooms of the households in question, (B) there's a war going on in the living room between who gets control of the remote between the 2-5 year old and the 6-11 year old, or (C) There's a major skew in the demographics where there are adults and people who fall outside the target demographics who are passing themselves off as 2-5 and 6-11 year olds and are fanatical Disney Channel fans, but then there probably is an equal amount of adults doing the same for CN.

See this is why I hate ratings. It's not a question of "Who's better" In terms of what is out there but rather "Who has the most control". (After all doesn't CN have like 200 million households that they dominate while Disney has roughly an equal amount?) So really what we have here is more of what I like to call "A deadlock" where neither side is neither losing nor gaining ground as probably both of these channels are usually offered in the same pre-packaged deals that the local cable companies offer (I should know, Cox Cable here in Tucson offers both channels at the same time for their extended Basic package.)

I think that about sums it up.


:coyote:

[Racattack!Force]

Your point being...? That preschoolers age 2-5 have as much power as kids 6-11? That chart only shows K6-11. :sweat: So, there were a few 11-year-olds possibly watching Playhouse Disney with their younger siblings.

[tucsoncoyote]

That chart only shows K6-11. :sweat: So, there were a few 11-year-olds possibly watching Playhouse Disney with their younger siblings.

True but then this brings up Part (B) Which is "Who is in control. or part (C) namely the skewing. I mean if (B) is happening and there is indeed a battle for the remote going on for the remote this would show in the demographics. Namely shows that are higher rated earlier in the morning would be showing up on one channel or the other. of course let's take a look and see if we can find a pattern between Playhouse Disney and CN's line up

0700: The Wiggles 1.5/24; (DSNY)
0730: Little Einsteins 1.6/21;(DSNY)
0800: My Friends Tigger & Pooh 1.5/17; (CN)
0830: Pokemon: Diamond & Pearl Battle Dimensions 2.0/13; (CN)
0900: Star Wars: Clone Wars 2.0/11;(CN)
0930: Ben 10: Alien Force 2.2/11; (CN)
1000: Batman: Brave & The Bold 2.0/10; (CN)
1030: Bakugan 1.9/9; Imagination Movers 1.9/9; (Tie)
1100: Handy Manny 2.0/9; (DSNY)
1130: Higglytown Heroes 1.9/9; (DSNY)
1200: Charlie and Lola 1.8/8; (DSNY)
1230: Mulan (95 minutes) 2.1/10 (DSNY)



in this latest ratings we see that Disney has been keeping pretty steady with it's ratings snagging the pre-8am and after 11am slots. But CN is definitely getting the more solid 2.0 rating vs Disney in the 8:30 to 11 am slot. (The Secret Saturdays did good but since it's a repeat the ratings weren't high enough to lock down the 8 am block, else CN would have a 3 hour long block between 8 and 11 pretty well secure. What hurts CN is the stuff that comes on before 8 or after 11.. I mean for a movie Mulan did pretty well garnering a 2.1

So until CN Can shore up it's middle block between 8 to 11 they have to work on the ends, else Disney will clean their clock every time.

However, and this is where I say however.. However I still think that the ratings are still somewhat skewed as it seems that usually after 11 am the ratings usually take what I call "The Plunge" where ratings fall off to such a point that people become disinterested and thus are willing to change the channel. The Mulan Movie supports this claim of skewing as it should have gotten a lower rating than just 2.1.

In short, there's some shennanigans going around here and again I point to the fact that if it can't be (A)(Equal amounts of kids) it has to be (B) (Kids fighting for the remote) or (C) (Parent passing themselves off as kids and thus skewing the ratings).


See this is why the Nielsens are flawed and some good shows are getting canned. It's because of this "Skewing".


:coyote:

[Space Cadet]

Week of 1/5-1/11:

Household Rating:

Primetime: 975,000(#12 for cable last week)
Total Day: 807,000(#8 for cable last week)

Viewers 2+:

Primetime: Didn't chart for the week
Total Day: 1,048,000(#6 for cable last week)

The ratings went down last week.



Here are the charts:

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K2-11 (000) 1/5-1/11/09 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 1215 DSNY*: 1113
DSNY*: 732 CARTOON: 730
CARTOON: 566 NAN**: 520
NAN**: 309 TOON DIS: 182
NOGGIN: 310 NICKTOONS: 113
ADSM**: 196 DISCOVERY: 96
TOON DIS.: 140 ESPN: 71
NICKTOONS: 73 BET: 66
DISCOVERY: 51 ANIMAL PLANET: 66
THE N: 39 THE N: 62
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K6-11 (000) 1/5-1/11/09 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 629 DSNY*: 862
DSNY*: 478 CARTOON: 502
CARTOON: 357 NAN**: 409
NAN**: 246 TOON DIS: 124
ADSM**: 115 DISCOVERY: 74
TOON DIS.: 95 NOGGIN: 65
NOGGIN: 53 NICKTOONS: 61
NICKTOONS: 41 THE N: 57
DISCOVERY: 38 ESPN: 53
THE N: 34 ANIMAL PLANET: 39
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported Networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among Tweens 9-14 (000) 1/5-1/11/09 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 445 DSNY*: 686
DSNY*: 377 NAN**: 562
NAN**: 376 CARTOON: 348
CARTOON: 240 DISCOVERY: 108
ADSM**: 152 THE N: 94
DISCOVERY: 55 TOON DIS.: 91
MTV: 53 ESPN: 87
THE N: 51 MTV: 81
ESPN: 49 COMEDY: 66
NICKTOONS: 33 BET: 60
COMEDY: 33
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p




Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Saturday, January 10, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1525; K6-11 1026; TWEENS 9-14 752
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1204; K6-11 790; TWEENS 9-14 514
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 719; K6-11 497; TWEENS 9-14 356
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 303; K6-11 233; TWEENS 9-14 179
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Sunday, January 11, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1302; K6-11 827; TWEENS 9-14 612
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1080; K6-11 716; TWEENS 9-14 561
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 808; K6-11 485; TWEENS 9-14 273
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 289; K6-11 225; TWEENS 9-14 185
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

[Racattack!Force]

...What, no commentary? :sweat:

[J!!!]

I blame Har Har Reruns for the lower ratings.

[Comics_the_QB]

They can't show new episodes for all shows, all the time.

[Mickialla]

They can't show new episodes for all shows, all the time.\

True, but the lack of new stuff is likely to contribute to a decline in ratings; HHT is CN's current most consistently successful block. I say they should hurry up and get the new Foster's up on HHt if they're not going to be airing any new Chowder/Flapjack until February, and TDA isn't coming around until Summer, and I don't think 6Teen should even be on the block.

[warnerbroman]

\

and TDA isn't coming around until Summer, and should even be on the block. why?

[Racattack!Force]

why?Because Cartoon Network said so...but in reality, probably to review the episodes for content.

[warnerbroman]

Because Cartoon Network said so...but in reality, probably to review the episodes for content.no!!!

[Racattack!Force]

no!!!...But not as harshly as they did with TDI. Jeez, it was just a little guess.

[Mickialla]

I'm not sure why TDA will be airing so long after TDI ended. It could be to review content, but even as edgy as Total Drama is, it doesn't even have THAT much content that it takes forever to edit. There are some scattered big ones (showing breasts or girl's underwear, slight cursing) but it's not like every episode is packed with it all. If anything, maybe CN is waiting so long because they don't want to get too close to airing the same amount of episodes that Teletoon has aired. It sounds weird, but maybe they CN (or Teletoon) doesn't want the show to air close to the same episodes at the same time in the States and in Canada

[Justy]

If anything, maybe CN is waiting so long because they don't want to get too close to airing the same amount of episodes that Teletoon has aired. It sounds weird, but maybe they CN (or Teletoon) doesn't want the show to air close to the same episodes at the same time in the States and in CanadaThis is more than likely at least part of the reason for the long wait. Also, since this is a Canadian orginal, it makes sense for it to premiere there first, if not complete its run, before coming to the U.S. Remember, the show had finished its first season before even airing here at all. CN is probably waiting to rerun the show on HHT entirely before starting the new season in an effort to get the biggest rating they can when it does premiere in the U.S. Also, both Wolverine and the X-Men and Spectacular Spiderman have episodes that have yet to air in the U.S.

I'd be interested in why you don't feel 6teen belongs on HHT. With no (or very few) new eps of Chowder, Flapjack, or TDI, they should be airing and heavily promoting unaired eps of 6teen. I don't think they have a better comedy show with unaired eps available for the block. My cable guide says the episode "The One With the Text Message" (unaired as of yet) is to be shown tonight so we'll see...

[DeanBurrito25]

I'm probably a little late but I hope that CN will indeed bring back the Looney Tunes.
If anything they could put it on in the afternoon like after Tom and Jerry.

[Freak]

They can't show new episodes for all shows, all the time.

Yeh, but they have the rights to 6teen and the have some unaired Foster's episodes. There are 79 episodes of 6teen and CN has only showed 30 of them? They should show "new" episodes of 6teen and Foster's.

[chdr]

Yeh, but they have the rights to 6teen and the have some unaired Foster's episodes. There are 79 episodes of 6teen and CN has only showed 30 of them? They should show "new" episodes of 6teen and Foster's.Foster's will be airing in the spring (possibly February).

[rainstorm46]

I'm probably a little late but I hope that CN will indeed bring back the Looney Tunes.
If anything they could put it on in the afternoon like after Tom and Jerry.

I would like Cartoon Network to air the Looney Tunes also but I don't think they will since now for some reason they seem to have forgotten about them.

[Flame Alchemist]

I can't wait to see the ratings for the PPG and Flapjack marathons!

[rainstorm46]

I can't wait to see the ratings for the PPG and Flapjack marathons!

I did not watch the marathons. But I would think the ratings for both shows would be pretty good since they are both well liked shows.

[SuperMegaHyper]

I can't wait to see the ratings for the PPG and Flapjack marathons!I curious to see what they did too, no doubt that Flapjack would have done better though.

[Space Cadet]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/21/wwe-raw-cinderella-icarly-and-monk-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/11185#comment-44544):

Star Wars: The Clone Wars(Friday 9-9:30 PM) - 2.352 million viewers

Its up from the week before.

[Terra Branford]

I curious to see what they did too, no doubt that Flapjack would have done better though.
I actually wouldn't count the Powerpuff Girls to have lower ratings to be honest. It's a show that most enjoy and is still relatively fresh. I expect it to be very close to be honest.

[batman_cool]

Also from TVByTheNumbers:

Batman: The Brave and the Bold(Friday 8-8:30 pm)
1.526 million

[Bryan]

The Powerpuff marathon on Monday did VERY well!!!

From: Cynopsis Kids 1/22/2009

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Saturday, January 17, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1475; K6-11 938; TWEENS 9-14 730
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1103; K6-11 710; TWEENS 9-14 571
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 598; K6-11 390; TWEENS 9-14 333
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 161; K6-11 87; TWEENS 9-14 58
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Sunday, January 18, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1290; K6-11 797; TWEENS 9-14 573
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 945; K6-11 622; TWEENS 9-14 438
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 737; K6-11 482; TWEENS 9-14 302
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 143; K6-11 74; TWEENS 9-14 49
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Monday, January 19, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1473; K6-11 823; TWEENS 9-14 575
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1087; K6-11 758; TWEENS 9-14 607
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 1048; K6-11 742; TWEENS 9-14 566
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 351; K6-11 229; TWEENS 9-14 152
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data



They averaged 1.048 million viewers (kids 2-11) from 6am-11pm ... wow!

[warnerbroman]

I find it satisfying that atlest an gen Y show did well

[Nexonius]

Wow, it almost beat Disney Channel's 6-11 department! Nice.

[Comics_the_QB]

:eek:

Wow!! Hey CN, this should give you a hint...

[creativerealms]

Wow even without beating Disney or Nick that is still very very impressive for Cartoon Network. maybe enough to give PPg a weekday spot? Who knows.

[Racattack!Force]

On Batman: Brave/Bold's ratings: That's pretty good. Nice to see that the show is starting to get a real-world fanbase.

On The Powerpuff Girls marathon ratings: I forsee a weekday night slot for the PPGs like Courage has. Oh, and more marathon's of past shows to celebrate THEIR anniversaries. *cough*EEnE*cough*

[SuperMegaHyper]

*looks at PPG ratings*

:eek: ........YEEEEEEAH!!!

[chdr]

*looks at PPG ratings*

Hint hint, CN?

[DeanBurrito25]

The Powerpuff marathon on Monday did VERY well!!!

From: Cynopsis Kids 1/22/2009

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Monday, January 19, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1473; K6-11 823; TWEENS 9-14 575
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1087; K6-11 758; TWEENS 9-14 607
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 1048; K6-11 742; TWEENS 9-14 566
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 351; K6-11 229; TWEENS 9-14 152
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data



They averaged 1.048 million viewers (kids 2-11) from 6am-11pm ... wow!
*looks at ratings, jaw drops to the floor* :eek:
WOOHOO!!!
It's no longer an option; CN has to bring PPG back.

[Mr. Ralph]

maybe this will mean more powerpuff girls specials?!?!?:anime::anime::anime:

[Racattack!Force]

*looks at ratings, jaw drops to the floor* :eek:
WOOHOO!!!
It's no longer an option; CN has to bring PPG back.
There actually are quite a few opinions. They could just do reruns on the main network, create more specials and force Craig back unto the series (but that would make the Compete Series DVD no complete), or just ignore it.

[Blackstar]

If CN does resurrect Powerpuff Girls, let's hope that the material would be better than the shows last season. Do I have to remind everyone how terrible the post movie PPG episodes were? Also, I don't know if Craig McCraken would want to go back to working on PPG full time, and if he wouldn't be invlolved, I don't think that a revival series should happen.

[Racattack!Force]

If CN does resurrect Powerpuff Girls, let's hope that the material would be better than the shows last season. Do I have to remind everyone how terrible the post movie PPG episodes were? Also, I don't know if Craig McCraken would want to go back to working on PPG full time, and if he wouldn't be invlolved, I don't think that a revival series should happen.I think the post-movie not due to the lack of invovlement from McCracken, but because he and Genndy kept taking all of the original crew away throughout the production of the final two seasons to the point where no one from the original crew was left. :sweat:

[DeanBurrito25]

There actually are quite a few opinions. They could just do reruns on the main network, create more specials and force Craig back unto the series (but that would make the Compete Series DVD no complete), or just ignore it.
I meant CN should do re-runs on the main network, McCracken doesn't have to make more episodes/specials....:sweat:

[Mickialla]

I think the post-movie not due to the lack of invovlement from McCracken, but because he and Genndy kept taking all of the original crew away throughout the production of the final two seasons to the point where no one from the original crew was left. :sweat:

That's exactly the reason. Craig said so in that Newsarama interview (great interview by the way). Most people tend to blame Chris Savino on the reason PPG Season 5 and 6 were so bad. In actuality Chris was one of the only ones working on PPG at the time who was actually a part of the original crew, and he had to handle the whole show by himself with an almost completely different crew. Of course Season 5 and Season 6 would be much different from the original episodes; they were pretty much two different shows with the same characters in them.

And wow, PPG booked it! I knew PPG was great (my favorite CN original) and I knew I was going to watch it all day, and I knew you guys were going to watch it all day. What I didn't expect was for EVERYONE to watch it all day (a bit of an overstatement, but w/e). Now we're stuck in a paradox. PPG has just recently been escorted to the home of the Exiled Cartoons of No Return (Boomerang). Usually that means that a show isn't going to come back. But with ratings like these, CN is most likely going to do something more PPG related.

[Racattack!Force]

That's exactly the reason. Craig said so in that Newsarama interview (great interview by the way). Most people tend to blame Chris Savino on the reason PPG Season 5 and 6 were so bad. In actuality Chris was one of the only ones working on PPG at the time who was actually a part of the original crew, and he had to handle the whole show by himself with an almost completely different crew. Of course Season 5 and Season 6 would be much different from the original episodes; they were pretty much two different shows with the same characters in them.I think its the same case with the Dexter's Lab revival: Only he returned from the original crew. :sad:

[Mickialla]

I think its the same case with the Dexter's Lab revival: Only he returned from the original crew. :sad:

Well, he wasn't the ONLY one left on the crew. There were still a few select people like John McIntyre, Dave Smith, and Chris Battle still on the Dexter's Lab revival. But four people doesn't make a crew, and it sure doesn't make the original Dexter's Lab crew.

[gtadbzman]

CN brought back Courage from high ratings so they better bring back the PPG. Maybe we'll see more specials and PPGZ.

[warnerbroman]

CN brought back Courage from high ratings so they better bring back the PPG. Maybe we'll see more specials and PPGZ.and loony toons

[Space Cadet]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/27/obama-inauguration-wwe-raw-and-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/11610/comment-page-1#comment-45436):

Powerpuff Girls Marathon(Monday; 7:30-8:00 PM) - 2.447 million viewers

[J!!!]

and loony toons
Ummmmm I think the Looney Tunes marathon failed upon itself in the ratings unlike PPG and Courage

[Racattack!Force]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/27/obama-inauguration-wwe-raw-and-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/11610/comment-page-1#comment-45436):

Powerpuff Girls Marathon(Monday; 7:30-8:00 PM) - 2.447 million viewersWait, a regular episode of the series got better ratings than the actual special? Wow.

[creativerealms]

Ummmmm I think the Looney Tunes marathon failed upon itself in the ratings unlike PPG and Courage

But it really did not fail. Sure it did not increase the ratings for that day like the PPG marathon did but shouldn't the fact that there was not a significant drop in ratings ether be a good thing?

I happened to like the post movie seasons. Yes they were not as good and the earlier seasons but they were not as bad as the "Post Ego Trip" Dexter episodes.

[Racattack!Force]

Ummmmm I think the Looney Tunes marathon failed upon itself in the ratings unlike PPG and CourageThe marathon actually did pretty well. Overall, it didn't do much better than an average day for the network. But the 5 most-watched "episodes" got an average of 3 million viewers.

[chdr]

Wait, a regular episode of the series got better ratings than the actual special? Wow.If I remember correctly, that was Beat Your Greens / Bubblevicious. Can't say I blame them, those two episodes were awesome.

[Space Cadet]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/27/obama-inauguration-wwe-raw-and-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/11610/comment-page-1#comment-45498)

Batman: The Brave and the Bold(Friday 8:00-8:30 PM) - 1.284 million viewers (Saturday 10:30 AM-11:00 AM) - 1.37 million viewers


In this case, the Saturday airing was higher than the Friday airing.

[J!!!]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/27/obama-inauguration-wwe-raw-and-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/11610/comment-page-1#comment-45498)

Batman: The Brave and the Bold(Friday 8:00-8:30 PM) - 1.284 million viewers (Saturday 10:30 AM-11:00 AM) - 1.37 million viewers


In this case, the Saturday airing was higher than the Friday airing.
I blame Wolverine and the Xmen for the slightly lower ratings

[Racattack!Force]

I blame Wolverine and the Xmen for the slightly lower ratingsMe too (in a way). I actually had to flip a coin for which one I would watch. Still haven't seen "Hindsight, Part One". :sweat: Figured that some people would miss the premiere and watch the repeat.

[J!!!]

Me too (in a way). I actually had to flip a coin for which one I would watch. Still haven't seen "Hindsight, Part One". :sweat: Figured that some people would miss the premiere and watch the repeat.

Really I just turned on 2 tv's in the same room and switched between looking at them:sweat:

[Racattack!Force]

Really I just turned on 2 tv's in the same room and switched between looking at them:sweat:With my dad's tennis addiction, that wasn't an option.

[Tay the Cat]

Do I have to remind everyone how terrible the post movie PPG episodes were?
They weren't that bad :|

[chdr]

They weren't that bad :|Agreed. The only post-movie episode I absolutely hated was "I See A Funny Cartoon In Your Future". What was up with that one? It didn't even feel like a PPG episode.

[Scarface 2.0]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/27/obama-inauguration-wwe-raw-and-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/11610/comment-page-1#comment-45498)

Batman: The Brave and the Bold(Friday 8:00-8:30 PM) - 1.284 million viewers (Saturday 10:30 AM-11:00 AM) - 1.37 million viewers


In this case, the Saturday airing was higher than the Friday airing.

Lets so how long that goes and see if CN will move Batman to saturday mornings.

[nakak]

Agreed. The only post-movie episode I absolutely hated was "I See A Funny Cartoon In Your Future". What was up with that one? It didn't even feel like a PPG episode.
To each his own, I guess. I actually liked that episode.

But then, I'm a big Jay Ward fan. It had June Foray voicing the villain, too.

[Racattack!Force]

Do I have to remind everyone how terrible the post movie PPG episodes were?They weren't THAT bad. Sure, they weren't as great as the pre-movie episodes, but I find that they were decent and a majority of them were able to stick to the type of humor and action that the series was known for.

[Space Cadet]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/27/obama-inauguration-wwe-raw-and-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/11610/comment-page-1#comment-45498)

Batman: The Brave and the Bold(Friday 8:00-8:30 PM) - 1.284 million viewers (Saturday 10:30 AM-11:00 AM) - 1.37 million viewers


In this case, the Saturday airing was higher than the Friday airing.

Those numbers are correct... for the Household numbers. Here are the numbers for the total amount of viewers:

Batman: The Brave and the Bold(Friday 8:00-8:30 PM) - 1.641 million viewers (Saturday 10:30 AM-11:00 AM) - 1.701 million viewers


Also, some more CN numbers:

Star Wars: The Clone Wars(Friday 9:00-9:30 PM) - 2.168 million viewers

Naruto(Saturday 9:30-10:00 PM) - 1.505 million viewers

[chdr]

It seems that Naruto still has been doing well despite CN's various attempts to kill it. Maybe this is why they ordered the last batch of episodes.

Hopefully, the good ratings continue and convince CN to pick up Shippuden.

[warnerbroman]

It seems that Naruto still has been doing well despite CN's various attempts to kill it. Maybe this is why they ordered the last batch of episodes.

Hopefully, the good ratings continue and convince CN to pick up Shippuden. what colby jack said

[Master Moron]

It seems that Naruto still has been doing well despite CN's various attempts to kill it. Maybe this is why they ordered the last batch of episodes.

Hopefully, the good ratings continue and convince CN to pick up Shippuden.

Maybe this will finally make people stop making completely unfounded claims that the fillers get lousy ratings. If a horrible one shot like that artifact episode can get ratings that good with no advertising then people really need to stop claiming that no one watches Naruto anymore. Sure, those ratings aren't as good as Batman: The Brave and The Badly Drawn, but that show gets tons of advertising and more than one timeslot per week. You can't even compare that to Naruto's nonexistant advertising and constant preemptions.

Of course, I know the Naruto haters are going to come up with some excuse as to why Naruto's ratings were that high. Like "That episode had Kiba in it! They only watched because of him!" or "That big lipped guy was the best filler character ever! It was a one time fluke!" or "They only watched it to see Naruto bungee jump! Without the extreme sports no one would have watched!" No wait, I know what they're going to blame it on. Naruto was originally scheduled to go into reruns after that episode so they're probably going to say "The only reason people watched it was because it was the last episode of Naruto scheduled and they wanted to give it a send off!" Now, do I even need to point out the ridiculousness of 1.5 million people checking the schedule on the internet a few weeks ago, noticing that Naruto is scheduled to go into reruns, assuming that the final episode of Naruto is going to air, then not bothering to check the schedule again to see if more episodes are scheduled, and watching last weeks episode based on a presumption from a schedule they saw several weeks earlier?

[Space Cadet]

Week of 1/19-1/25:

Household Viewers:

Total Day: 933,000(#7 for cable)
Primetime: 1,167,000(#10 for cable)

Total Day Viewers:

Total Day: 1,197,000(#7 for cable)
Primetime: 1,569,000(#9 for cable)


Here are the charts:


Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K2-11 (000) 1/19-1/25/09 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 1211 DSNY*: 1199
DSNY*: 796 CARTOON: 832
CARTOON: 646 NAN**: 510
NOGGIN: 303 NOGGIN: 404
NAN**: 286 TOON DIS: 240
TOON DIS.: 189 NICKTOONS: 136
ADSM**: 188 DISCOVERY: 121
NICKTOONS: 81 ESPN: 86
DISCOVERY: 69 BET: 80
MTV: 47 MTV: 77
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K6-11 (000) 1/19-1/25/09 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 651 DSNY*: 896
DSNY*: 513 CARTOON: 547
CARTOON: 429 NAN**: 378
NAN**: 221 TOON DIS: 148
ADSM**: 118 NICKTOONS: 88
TOON DIS.: 117 DISCOVERY: 86
DISCOVERY: 50 TLC: 76
NICKTOONS: 51 ESPN: 67
NOGGIN: 49 NOGGIN: 58
THE N: 37 ANIMAL PLANET: 51
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported Networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among Tweens 9-14 (000) 1/19-1/25/09 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 453 DSNY*: 766
DSNY*: 427 NAN**: 474
CARTOON: 303 CARTOON: 423
NAN**: 262 DISCOVERY: 129
ADSM**: 150 MTV: 97
DISCOVERY: 75 TOON DIS.: 97
MTV: 64 ESPN: 96
ESPN: 52 TLC: 96
THE N: 48 COMEDY: 85
TLC: 48 THE N: 70
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p




Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Saturday, January 24, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1437; K6-11 941; TWEENS 9-14 630
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1147; K6-11 676; TWEENS 9-14 431
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 587; K6-11 405; TWEENS 9-14 288
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 283; K6-11 175; TWEENS 9-14 114
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Sunday, January 25, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1240; K6-11 789; TWEENS 9-14 598
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1024; K6-11 672; TWEENS 9-14 520
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 868; K6-11 595; TWEENS 9-14 384
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 309; K6-11 186; TWEENS 9-14 134
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data


Good, but its been better.





Top Ten January Monthly Year-to-Year Comparison: Total Day Rankings among K6-11 (000) 12/28-1/25/09 vs. 12/31-1/27/08, Cable Networks Only:
Network: (000) %diff
NICK° : 690 -2%
DSNY: 542 -9%
CARTOON** : 399 +10%
NAN* : 238 -8%
ADSM** : 124 +4%
TOON DIS.: 86 +25%
NOGGIN: 54 +69%
NICKTOONS: 50 +35%
DISCOVERY: 43 -63%
THE N: 38 +124%
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p
*NAN Total Day 9p-6a
**Cartoon Network & Adult Swim share channel space ADSM airs Sat.-Thurs. 11p-6a
The networks listed are mostly those cable networks that regularly appear on the K6-11 weekly ranking charts.
Source: Disney Research from Star Media Multitrak Reporting System Live+7 Blended with Live+SD from 1/12/2009 to date


Compared to the major kids networks, CN had double-digit gains in January.

[Nexonius]

It looks like CN enjoyed January ratings:



http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsroom/pr/0,20812,1874272,00.html




Cartoon Network Scores Significant Ratings, Delivery Gains Across January '09
January 27, 2009
Friday Night Action-Adventure Programming and Saturday Morning Series Earn Double-Digit Growth Compared to Jan. '08

The Powerpuff Girls 10th Anniversary Marathon on Jan. 19 Also Charts Double-Digit Gains Across Kids 2-11, 6-11 & 9-14 Cartoon Network wrapped up its January '09 performance with solid ratings and delivery growth across all key kids demos, according to preliminary data from Nielsen Media Research. Compared to January 2008, both its prime time action-adventure programming on Friday night and its Saturday morning series telecasts scored significant double-digit gains among kids and boys 2-11, 6-11 and 9-14. The final week of January—aided by a day-long 10th Anniversary marathon of The Powerpuff Girls on Monday, Jan. 19—also charted particularly strong increases: overall prime time ratings and delivery among kids 2-11, 6-11 and 9-14 grew between 22% and 31%; while total day ratings and delivery among these same demos earned between 12% and 20% increases compared to the same time period in 2008.



Among Cartoon Network's monthly programming highlights in January, Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Friday, 9 p.m.) charted double and triple-digit growth among all target kid demos, with kids 2-11 delivery (1,222,000) improving by 67%, kids 6-11 delivery (943,000) by 83% and tweens 9-14 delivery (744,000) by 134%. Original series Ben 10: Alien Force (Friday, 9:30 p.m.) also earned 4% delivery growth among kids 6-11 (499,000) and 17% delivery growth among tweens 9-14 (384,000). The Friday night block overall (8-10 p.m.) secured 6% delivery growth among kids 2-11 (863,000), 15% growth among kids 6-11 (639,000) and 36% growth among tweens 9-14 (481,000).



On Saturday morning, Cartoon Network original series The Secret Saturdays (8:30 a.m.) grew kids 2-11 delivery (728,000) by 12%, kids 6-11 delivery (475,000) by 2% and tweens 9-14 delivery (298,000) by 8%. More impressively, Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension (9 a.m.) which expanded kids 2-11 delivery (843,000) by 21%, kids 6-11 delivery (578,000) by 12% and tweens 9-14 delivery (402,000) by 21%.
The Powerpuff Girls also returned to Cartoon Network on Jan. 19 (Martin Luther King, Jr. Day) to celebrate their 10th Anniversary, earning double-digit gains throughout the day among all kid demos compared to the holiday programming last year. Across the 6 a.m. to 8:30 p.m. marathon of favorite episodes selected by the series' creator Craig McCracken, kids 2-11 delivery improved by 29%, kids 6-11 delivery by 24% and tweens 9-14 delivery by 20%.



Overall January highlights for Cartoon Network's January ‘09 performance compared to the same time period in 2008 include the following:
JANUARY '09 PRIME TIME (Monday-Sunday, 7 to 10 p.m.) vs. the same time period in 2008
• Kids 2-11 delivery (771,000) grew by 14%, and ratings (1.9) by 12%
• Kids 6-11 delivery (519,000) grew by 15%, and ratings (2.1) by 11%
• Tweens 9-14 delivery (393,000) grew by 18%, and ratings (1.6) by 14%



JANUARY '09 TOTAL DAY (Monday-Sunday, 6 a.m. to 10 p.m.) vs. the same time period in 2008
• Kids 2-11 delivery (612,000) grew by 6%, and ratings (1.5) by 7%
• Kids 6-11 delivery (399,000) grew by 10%, and ratings (1.6) by 7%
• Tweens 9-14 delivery (285,000) grew by 15%, and ratings (1.2) by 20%


Cartoon Network (CartoonNetwork.com) (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/), currently seen in more than 97 million U.S. homes and 166 countries around the world, is Turner Broadcasting System, Inc.'s ad-supported cable service now available in HD offering the best in original, acquired and classic animated entertainment for kids and families. Nightly from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. (ET, PT), Cartoon Network shares its channel space with Adult Swim, a late-night destination showcasing original and acquired animation for young adults 18-34.



Turner Broadcasting System, Inc., a Time Warner company, creates and programs branded news, entertainment, animation and young adult media environments on television and other platforms for consumers around the world.



RATING PERIOD: 12/29/08 – 1/25/09
SOURCE: Turner Entertainment Research from Preliminary Nielsen Media Research data, based on most current data available (Live+SD). Complete and final data (Live+7) will be available in two weeks. These television ratings data are reproduced here with permission from Nielsen Media Research. Reproduction of these data in volume, without permission from Nielsen Media Research, is prohibited.
NOTES: All ratings based on Total U.S. Television Universe of 114,500,000 homes.

[J!!!]

I now REALLY don't think Looney Tunes did well there is on mention of it in it's press release.

[chdr]

So much for Looney Tunes... :sad:

[Nexonius]

Now hold up just for a second, just because Looney Tunes aren't part of the January ratings doesn't mean they're not coming back to CN anytime soon. They could even come back next month or March.

[warnerbroman]

Now hold up just for a second, just because Looney Tunes aren't part of the January ratings doesn't mean they're not coming back to CN anytime soon. They could even come back next month or March.Give up it's over :crying:

[Mr. Ralph]

good to hear that pokemon did pretty good!!:anime:

[Mickialla]

I agree with John. Looney Tunes probably wasn't included in the January ratings because it was really early on in the month and didn't contribute that much to the month's overall ratings. I do remember it was mentioned in another report early on in the month though. And this totally doesn't mean that the network isn't going to bring Looney Tunes back. I didn't expect to see Looney Tunes back in January. I'd expect it to come back (if it does) in a month, if not a little more.

[J!!!]

I agree with John. Looney Tunes probably wasn't included in the January ratings because it was really early on in the month and didn't contribute that much to the month's overall ratings. I do remember it was mentioned in another report early on in the month though. And this totally doesn't mean that the network isn't going to bring Looney Tunes back. I didn't expect to see Looney Tunes back in January. I'd expect it to come back (if it does) in a month, if not a little more.
I checked the press release website and it isn't mentioned anywhere.

[Silverstar]

It's still too soon to tell, guys. The Lonney Tunes marathon was just at the start of this month. If LT does land a regular slot on the schedule, the earliest I would expect to see it would be spring or summer.

[Mickialla]

I checked the press release website and it isn't mentioned anywhere.

And so that automatically means Looney Tunes isn't coming back??

[Blackstar]

Perhaps Cartoon Network will run June Bugs again this year at the very least, although I'd love to see a Daffy Duck marathon. The Duck is long overdue for his own month.

[Mickialla]

Perhaps Cartoon Network will run June Bugs again this year at the very least, although I'd love to see a Daffy Duck marathon. The Duck is long overdue for his own month.

A revival of June Bugs would be great. June Bugs brings back a lot of Summer memories for me. But I wouldn't count on it. Cartoon Network may possibly be bringing back Looney Tunes, but they're still trying to bury their past.

[Mesousa]

Guys, calm down, we didn't only have an all-day LT marathon, but also an all-day PPG marathon. With a new special, too.

Isn't that good enough?

[DeanBurrito25]

Guys, calm down, we didn't only have an all-day LT marathon, but also an all-day PPG marathon. With a new special, too.

Isn't that good enough?
Makes me wonder what other awesome marathons CN has in store...

[Racattack!Force]

Makes me wonder what other awesome marathons CN has in store...*hopes for an EEnE marathon with the movie* :D There's still a chance for the Looney Tunes to return to the network.

[J!!!]

*hopes for an EEnE marathon with the movie* :D There's still a chance for the Looney Tunes to return to the network.
Just a question Tednut Low ratings, no mention in there press release, and there being no chance of it being shown during primetime and you still think there is a chance:sweat:

[Racattack!Force]

Just a question Tednut Low ratings, no mention in there press release, and there being no chance of it being shown during primetime and you still think there is a chance:sweat:
The five most watched hours of the marathon got an average of 3 million viewers. Not as good as the PPG marathon, but still a nice performance.
It wasn't really that groundbreaking, and didn't improve upon the network's ratings that much.
It's doesn't need to be shown during primetime. It could be shown in the early afternoon.

[Mickialla]

Just a question Tednut Low ratings, no mention in there press release, and there being no chance of it being shown during primetime and you still think there is a chance:sweat:

Ok, this belief needs to be put to an end. Read what I'm about to write very carefully. The Looney Tunes Marathon did not get low ratings. It did average. If I'm correct, it actually did slightly better than what CN usually gets. And who said that just because it wasn't in a press release means that it's not going to air again? Whether it airs or not is up to the execs at CN, not the people who write the press release.

[Space Cadet]

From TVByTheNumbers.com (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/03/the-closer-monk-and-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/12066/comment-page-1#comment-47380):

Star Wars: The Clone Wars(Friday 9:00-9:30) - 2.625 million viewers

The ratings went up from the week before.

[J!!!]

From TVByTheNumbers.com (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/03/the-closer-monk-and-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/12066/comment-page-1#comment-47380):

Star Wars: The Clone Wars(Friday 9:00-9:30) - 2.625 million viewers

The ratings went up from the week before.
I guess that's good for CN maybe they can be the second place network by the end of Q4 if they keep this average up.

[Mickialla]

I guess that's good for CN maybe they can be the second place network by the end of Q4 if they keep this average up.

That was for one week, bud.

[J!!!]

That was for one week, bud.
I know let me slightly change what I said "Maybe if CN keeps this as an average they can be number 2 by Q4."

[Racattack!Force]

That was for one week, bud.Well, at least one series on CN somehow is always able to make it on the list, so you never know.

[jcalamil]

I think Cartoon Network should make a consence, animation it's not only bussines or personal interets, it's about pleasing audience, !!they should make conscience!!:crying: .¿what shall we do? ¿put on our knees and start beggin'?:confused:

[Racattack!Force]

I think Cartoon Network should make a consence, animation it's not only bussines or personal interets, it's about pleasing audience, !!they should make conscience!!:crying: .¿what shall we do? ¿put on our knees and start beggin'?:confused:...Entertainment is about pleasing the target audience. When they get ratings and make money, then they have suceeded in making at least some of the audidence happy. Besides, I'm confused about what you said. Do yo mean they should repent for their live-action sins? :confused:

[Space Cadet]

Week of 1/26-2/1:

Household Viewers:

Total Day: 838,000(#7 for cable)
Primetime: 1,109,000(#6 for cable)

Total Day Viewers:

Total Day: 1,032,000(#7 for cable)
Primetime: 1,452,000(#6 for cable)


The ratings were down from the week before.


Here are the charts:


Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K2-11 (000) 1/26-2/1/2009 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 1122 DSNY*: 1155
DSNY*: 799 TOON: 808
TOON: 582 NOGGIN: 392
NOGGIN: 307 NAN: 362
NAN: 200 TOON DIS: 164
ADSM**: 197 DISCOVERY: 97
TOON DIS: 139 TLC: 80
NICKTOONS: 88 BET: 74
DISCOVERY: 59 ESPN: 70
MTV: 49 THE N: 68
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K6-11 (000) 1/26-2/1/2009 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 580 DSNY*: 868
DSNY*: 517 TOON: 552
TOON: 386 NAN: 279
NAN: 154 TOON DIS: 84
ADSM**: 114 NICKTOONS: 81
TOON DIS: 72 DISCOVERY: 72
NICKTOONS: 54 THE N: 60
NOGGIN: 47 NOGGIN: 55
DISCOVERY: 45 ESPN: 52
THE N: 41 BET: 47
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported Networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among Tweens 9-14 (000) 1/26-2/1/2009 :
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK°: 409 DSNY*: 694
DSNY*: 408 TOON: 384
TOON: 265 NAN: 347
NAN: 227 DISCOVERY: 111
ADSM**: 159 MTV: 98
NICKTOONS: 43 THE N: 93
MTV: 62 BET: 78
DISCOVERY: 62 COMEDY: 71
THE N: 54 ESPN: 70
TOON DIS: 49 NICKTOONS: 58
TLC: 58
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
°Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p



Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Saturday, January 31, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1312; K6-11 843; TWEENS 9-14 622
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1146; K6-11 751; TWEENS 9-14 543
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 668; K6-11 463; TWEENS 9-14 290
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 293; K6-11 168; TWEENS 9-14 95
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Sunday, February 1, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1171; K6-11 753; TWEENS 9-14 560
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1001; K6-11 607; TWEENS 9-14 403
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 716; K6-11 491; TWEENS 9-14 332
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 226; K6-11 115; TWEENS 9-14 64
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data



The ratings were higher the week before.

[Blackstar]

I think Cartoon Network should make a consence, animation it's not only bussines or personal interets, it's about pleasing audience, !!they should make conscience!!:crying: .¿what shall we do? ¿put on our knees and start beggin'?:confused:

What makes you think that Cartoon Network's audience isn't pleased? Once again, CN is aimed at kids aged 13 and under, and as long as they're not complaining, there's no reason for CN to do anything different than what they're doing now. CN wouldn't run the programs that they do so often if kids weren't sitting down to watch them everyday. Based on my experience on the forums, most of the people who are complaining about the network's schedule are themselves well outside of CN's target demographic, and so their complaints are of little to no interest for CN, because they're not who the channel is designed for. Conscience doesn't figure into network executive's decision making at all. The execs don't cancel shows because they don't like you. They don't even know you. They don't do what they do to be mean; they do it so they don't lose sponsors and viewers, which would result in their getting fired.

And sorry, but animation is a business, first and foremost, at least to the network executives who's job it is to keep a TV network running, that is. CN's ratings have been steadily improving over the last 2 years, so I'd say that it's audience is considerably pleased, for the most part.

[Silverstar]

¿what shall we do? ¿put on our knees and start beggin'?:confused:

Start begging for what, exactly? What specifically is it that you want Cartoon Network to do?

If this is about bringing all or most of CN's canceled shows from the 90's back to the network, that's not going to happen as long as Boomerang exists. CN isn't going to alter its' entire schedule to appease a few dissatisfied fans, especially when said fans don't register a blip on CN's radar right now.

We may get a little taste of a classic CN show once in a while, but Cartoon Network isn't going to time jump back to the way it was in 1999. They're not going to do that, they'd have no reason to do that.

[Space Cadet]

Here are more details of CN's January ratings:


Cartoon Network Ratings News (January 2009)

Cartoon Network, having closed out the previous year with strong performances from original programming genres in comedy and action, is looking to capitalize on its previous success in the New Year by giving viewers more of what it was that gave the network a boost in the previous year. Although it may sound like more of the same, the audience delivery numbers and ratings statistics measure a certified change in viewing patterns for the kid's cable network in comparison to the previous year.

The Tweens 9-14 demographic has definitely stepped up in recent months, in comparison to their showing in previous Quarters of analysis, their growth of which is reflected in the following percentages. Meanwhile, the fourth week of rated programming found the network enlisting the help of a Powerpuff Girls marathon to boost viewership in both Primetime and Total Program Day margins. The marathon of show creator Craig McCracken's favorite episodes found audience delivery increasing with Kids 2-11 by +29%, Kids 6-11 by +24%, and even Tweens 9-14 by +20%, in comparison to the Holiday programming from the previous year.

The following tracks various highlights of Cartoon Network programming, week-by-week, in January 2009. The first rated week of the month witnessed a general +02% increase in Total Program Day audience delivery for Kids 2-11; +02% growth for Kids 6-11; and a more respectable +17% increase among Tweens 9-14, over the previous year.

Week One Highlights (Total Drama Island; 9/9:30pm):
Kids 2-11 audience increased +34%
Kids 6-11 grew +26%
Tweens 9-14 delivery up +53%
Kids 2-11 increased +43%
Kids 6-11 jumped +52%
Tweens 9-14 grew an impressive +117%Week One Highlights (Friday Action):
Kids 2-11 audience delivery measured up +15%
Kids 6-11 up +37%
Tweens 9-14 up +126%
Star Wars: The Clone Wars, for its specific time-period, earned Kids 2-11 growth of +57%; while also increasing the Kids 6-11 showing +80%; as the Tweens 9-14 audience grew by +187%
Ben 10: Alien Force earned Kids 2-11 growth of +16%; as the Kids 6-11 delivery went up by +31%; and the Tweens 9-14 group by +110%Week Two Highlights:
Kids 2-11 audience delivery grew +08% (up to 566,000) for the Total Program Day
Kids 6-11 up +17% (up to 357,000) for the Total Program Day
In Primetime, the Kids 2-11 group inched up +05% (730,000), while
Kids 6-11 increased +11% (502,000)Week Two Highlights (Thursday Comedy):
The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack reported a delivery growth of +21% with Kids 6-11 (up to 560,000) while additionally, Tweens 9-14 delivery went up +15% (375,000)
Total Drama Island showed stronger growth, with +25% increase with Kids 6-11 (591,000) for its time-period, and a growth of +41% with Tweens 9-14 (445,000)
The comedy night's other notable import, 6Teen, earned similar gains: +29% with Kids 6-11 (591,000); and +28% with Tweens 9-14 (476,000)Week Two Highlights (Friday Action):
Star Wars: The Clone Wars showed improved performance over the previous year with Kids 2-11 delivery growing +10% (up to 1.07 million), and Kids 6-11 up +27% (852,000), while the Tween 9-14 demographic increased a notable +58% (up to 620,000)
Ben 10: Alien Force showed a higher viewership with Kids 2-11 by some +09% (712,000); Kids 6-11 up +25% (562,000); and Tweens 9-14 up a more significant +54% (397,000)
Week Three Highlights:
Regarding the network's Total Program Day performance, internal tracking revealed Kids 2-11 audience growth of a marginal +01% (574,000)
Kids 6-11 up +05% (365,00)
Tweens 9-14 up a slightly better +08%
For Primetime audience delivery, Cartoon Network charged blossoming numbers for all major demographics, including Kids 2-11, which went up +18% (811,000).
Kids 6-11 increased +24% (up to 553,000)
Tweens 9-14 was up +29% (up to 423,000)
Kids 2-11 increased +43%Week Three Highlights (Comedy Thursday):
Chowder managed a wide variety of audience delivery gains, starting with Kids 2-11 up +09% (939,000); Kids 6-11 up +41% (706,000); and Tweens 9-14 up a more solid +91% (623,000)
6Teen also earned growth for its time-period with Kids 2-11 up +10% (838,000); Kids 6-11 up +23% (609,000); and Tweens 9-14 a more suitable +52% (532,000)Week Three Highlights (Action Thursday):
Star Wars: The Clone Wars showed confidence with audiences a they only key action show to earn positive ratings. The space-opera found delivery increases with Kids 2-11 by +68% (1.15 million); Kids 6-11 by +57% (826,000); and Tweens 9-14 by a more formidable +125% (723,000)Week Four Highlights:
Total Program Day ratings and delivery among Kids 2-11, Kids 6-11, and Tweens 9-14, which earned between +12% and +20% increases compared to the same time-period in 2008.
While Primetime ratings and delivery among these same demographics grew between +22% and +31%Monthly Highlights (Friday/Saturday Action):
The programming block itself secured growth with Kids 2-11 of +06% (up to 863,000); Kids 6-11 up +15% (639,000); and with Tweens 9-14 up +36% (481,000)
Star Wars: The Clone Wars charted double and triple-digit growth with Kids 2-11 audiences improving by +67% (up to 1.2 million); Kids 6-11 delivery by +83% (943,000); and Tweens 9-14 by +134% (744,000)
Ben 10: Alien Forces earned +04% delivery growth among Kids 6-11 (499,000) and with Tweens 9-14 up +17% (384,000) delivery growth
The Secret Saturdays earned its stay, by checking in with slight gains with Kids 2-11 up +12% (728,000); Kids 6-11 up +02% (475,000); with Tweens 9-14 growing a bit smaller +08% (298,000)
Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension, also on weekend mornings, expanded Kids 2-11 delivery by +21% (843,000); Kids 6-11 delivery by +12% (578,000); and Tweens 9-14 audience delivery by 21% (402,000)Monthly Highlights (Primetime; M-Su, 7:00 to 10:00pm):
Kids 2-11 delivery (771,000) grew by 14%, and ratings (1.9) by 12%
Kids 6-11 delivery (519,000) grew by 15%, and ratings (2.1) by 11%
Tweens 9-14 delivery (393,000) grew by 18%, and ratings (1.6) by 14%Monthly Highlights (Total Program Day; M-Su, 6:00am to 10:00pm):
Kids 2-11 delivery (612,000) grew by 6%, and ratings (1.5) by 7%
Kids 6-11 delivery (399,000) grew by 10%, and ratings (1.6) by 7%
Tweens 9-14 delivery (285,000) grew by 15%, and ratings (1.2) by 20%
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[Racattack!Force]

Surprised there is no mention of Batman: Brave/Bold, which also aired new episodes this month. :confused:

[J!!!]

Surprised there is no mention of Batman: Brave/Bold, which also aired new episodes this month. :confused:
It may have failed on there standards.

[Racattack!Force]

It may have failed on there standards.I seriously hope not. If reruns of TSS can continue to gain an audience (it does very well with tweenagers), then why can't reruns of Brave/Bold? It has Batman. BATMAN.

[J!!!]

I seriously hope not. If reruns of TSS can continue to gain an audience (it does very well with tweenagers), then why can't reruns of Brave/Bold? It has Batman. BATMAN.
Some "Tweenagers" could be wondering where the violence in a Batman show is and change the channel because if it's awesome chessiness

[chdr]

I seriously hope not. If reruns of TSS can continue to gain an audience (it does very well with tweenagers), then why can't reruns of Brave/Bold? It has Batman. BATMAN.Considering TBATB is already has two consistent weekday slots, I'm pretty sure CN doesn't deem it a failure.

[Darklordavaitor]

TDI aired it's finale 2 months ago, and it's still GAINING viewers.

Think we've got a bona-fide phenomenon here, folks.

[chdr]

TDI aired it's finale 2 months ago, and it's still GAINING viewers.

Think we've got a bona-fide phenomenon here, folks.My guess is that the TDA premiere will be CN's "High School Musical".

[Freak]

I think Cartoon Network should make the audience wait atleast 2 monthes. It looks like they are testing to see fan loyality?
That is something CN doesn't have I think.

[Terra Branford]

I think Cartoon Network should make the audience wait atleast 2 monthes. It looks like they are testing to see fan loyality?
That is something CN doesn't have I think.

Why would you think they don't have the loyalty of fans that continue to watch their network?

[DarthGonzo]

TDI aired it's finale 2 months ago, and it's still GAINING viewers.

Think we've got a bona-fide phenomenon here, folks.

A phenomenon on Cartoon Network equals what compared to Nick? An average episode of Back at the Barnyard?

LOL I keed. :p

[Racattack!Force]

A phenomenon on Cartoon Network equals what compared to Nick? An average episode of Back at the Barnyard?

LOL I keed. :pWell, it's a hit for Cartoon Network. :sweat:

[Mickialla]

My guess is that the TDA premiere will be CN's "High School Musical".

TDI might be Cartoon Network's most recent success story, but it's not as successful as High School Musical. Until I see TDI T-shirts, TDI beach towels, TDI lunchboxes, TDI video games, and kids in my school running in the halls singing the TDI theme song, TDA won't be CN's High School Musical.

[chdr]

TDI might be Cartoon Network's most recent success story, but it's not as successful as High School Musical. Until I see TDI T-shirts, TDI beach towels, TDI lunchboxes, TDI video games, and kids in my school running in the halls singing the TDI theme song, TDA won't be CN's High School Musical.Who says it has to be as big as HSM? All I'm saying is that this will be like HSM is to Disney, a big ratings event (even if CN has way lower standards)

[J!!!]

TDI might be Cartoon Network's most recent success story, but it's not as successful as High School Musical. Until I see TDI T-shirts, TDI beach towels, TDI lunchboxes, TDI video games, and kids in my school running in the halls singing the TDI theme song, TDA won't be CN's High School Musical.
Well I see kids singing the theme at my school:sweat:CN really should have licensed merchandise for this.

[warnerbroman]

Why would you think they don't have the loyalty of fans that continue to watch their network?they killed toonami

[The Overlord]

Well I see kids singing the theme at my school:sweat:CN really should have licensed merchandise for this.

I wonder how that would work though, has CN been able to make anime merchandise profitable in the past? They would have split the profits with Fresh, maybe that's why there is no merchandise.

[Space Cadet]

Final K6-11 Ratings for Saturday, January, 31, 2009 Cable Networks only (Live + SD Data):
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data
NICKELODEON 4.2/21 Avg. (7a-1p)
Jimmy Neutron 1.7/18; Jimmy Neutron 2.8/21; Fairly OddParents 3.7/21; Fairly OddParents 4.5/20; SpongeBob SquarePants 5.7/23; SpongeBob SquarePants 6.2/26; Back At The Barnyard 5.1/22; Mighty B! 4.0/18; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.4/21; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.2/20; Gym Teacher Movie (120 minutes) 3.9/20
CARTOON NETWORK 2.0/10 Avg. (7a-1p)
George of the Jungle 1.2/9; Transformers: Animated 1.3/8; Secret Saturdays 2.2/10; Pokemon: Diamond and Pearl Battle Dimension 2.6/11; Star Wars: Clone Wars 2.4/10; Ben 10: Alien Force 2.4/10; Batman: Brave & The Bold 2.5/11; Bakugan 2.1/10; Robotboy 1.9/9; Ben 10: Alien Force 2.2/11; Ben 10: Alien Force 2.5/13
DISNEY CHANNEL 2.4/12 Avg. (7a-1p)
The Wiggles 1.6/18; Little Einsteins 1.6/13; My Friends Tigger & Pooh 1.8/10; Handy Manny 2.4/11; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 2.2/9; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 1.8/7; Imagination Movers 2.2/10; Handy Manny 2.3/10; Phineas and Ferb 3.0/14; Phineas and Ferb 3.4/16; Minutemen (100 minutes) 3.0/16
TOON DISNEY (Jetix) 0.8/4 Avg. (7a-1p)
Suite Life of Zack & Cody 0.4/4; Phineas and Ferb 0.7/5; Phineas and Ferb 0.9/5; Phineas and Ferb 1.2/5; Return to Neverland (90 minutes) 1.1/4; American Dragon: Jake Long 0.5/2; Fox and the Hound (90 minutes) 0.7/3; House of Mouse 0.7/3



A normally good Saturday for CN, except that the Disney Channel leaped into second place due to two episodes of Phineas and Ferb and the TV movie Minutemen.

[Racattack!Force]

they killed toonamiThe block's death didn't have the impact you think it would. :shrug:

[Terra Branford]

It looks like any normal Saturday except it's in third place. 9-11 seems to be more popular hours for the Crushzone.

[gtadbzman]

I hope CN picks up the new Dragon Ball Z series. That could really help the ratings. That's if kids still know about this show. If not I'm sure it would do good on AS.

[J!!!]

I hope CN picks up the new Dragon Ball Z series. That could really help the ratings. That's if kids still know about this show. If not I'm sure it would do good on AS.
Ummm there not new there just recut episdoes and the last time they showed a recut/uncut DBZ it failed on them.

[gtadbzman]

Ummm there not new there just recut episdoes and the last time they showed a recut/uncut DBZ it failed on them.DBZ Uncut didn't fail. It did pretty good if I remember correctly.

[J!!!]

DBZ Uncut didn't fail. It did pretty good if I remember correctly.
There still not new episodes:shrug:

[Blackstar]

I hope CN picks up the new Dragon Ball Z series. That could really help the ratings. That's if kids still know about this show. If not I'm sure it would do good on AS.

As previously stated, there's no new DBZ series. And DBZ will never air on Adult Swim because cut ot uncut, DBZ is still considered to be a kids' show. Yes, AS did air The Ripping Friends, a Saturday morning cartoon, for a time, but I think that the main (if not only) reason why AS aired Ripping Friends was because it was created by John (Ren & Stimpy) Kricfalusi, and like most of John K's work, RF's humor sometimes flirted with the limits of good taste.

[Tay the Cat]

DBZ Uncut didn't fail. It did pretty good if I remember correctly.
Think again.

[warnerbroman]

Think again.it did better than that?

[gtadbzman]

I'm pretty sure DBZ: Uncut did good for CN because FUNI advertised them as "the way they were meant to be seen" and they were sort of new episodes.

[Silverstar]

I'm pretty sure DBZ: Uncut did good for CN because FUNI advertised them as "the way they were meant to be seen" and they were sort of new episodes.

That was just an advertising tagline. That doesn't incdicate how well DBZ Uncut did ratings-wise.

[Tay the Cat]

If I recall correctly, DBZ Uncut did quite poorly.

I could be wrong... but I'm usually not.

[Jave]

If I recall correctly, DBZ Uncut did quite poorly.

I could be wrong... but I'm usually not.No, it did pretty well actually. It didn't do WONDERS, mind you, but it did well enough. Definitely not "poorly".

And Blackstar, there is technically a new DBZ series. Check the anime forum.

[Daxdiv]

Technically the Star Bros. don't consider the new DBZ remaster as a new series. The way I see it is it kind of is a new series if it going to be 100 episodes, mostly cut out the filler, redoing the line (Mostly for audio and the fact that Tenshinhan and Muten Roshi JPN VA are dead.), Have some new effects and air along One Piece in Japan. To me it more of a combination of a remaster/remake.

[Jave]

Technically the Star Bros. don't consider the new DBZ remaster as a new series. The way I see it is it kind of is a new series if it going to be 100 episodes, mostly cut out the filler, redoing the line (Mostly for audio and the fact that Tenshinhan and Muten Roshi JPN VA are dead.), Have some new effects and air along One Piece in Japan. To me it more of a combination of a remaster/remake.Yeah, I understand it's not a new NEW series, but it's new in the sense that it's exactly the same. And I guess it's safe to assume that's the "new" series gtadbzman was talking about.

[Daxdiv]

You would be right in that regard. But I see it as a new series since they are doing something different with it. It's not like Japan is airing the 291 episodes of DBZ again. I agree that it is not like new NEW, where it would be TOEI going back and reanimating everything like the new DBZ special. I'm more interested in how they are going to handle it myself.

[Tay the Cat]

No, it did pretty well actually. It didn't do WONDERS, mind you, but it did well enough. Definitely not "poorly".
Eh, that was a bit of exaggeration on my part.

What I meant is that it didn't come anywhere near what DBZ got when it first aired, which is true.

[Jave]

Eh, that was a bit of exaggeration on my part.

What I meant is that it didn't come anywhere near what DBZ got when it first aired, which is true.Well yeah, everybody knows that. But that's not what you said in your original post.

[chdr]

I doubt the remastered DBZ series would do well on CN. The "in" anime has gone from DBZ to Naruto (and maybe to Bleach). The DBZ fad in teen boys have passed, and the embarrassing "Evolution" movie just seems like it will make DBZ's situation worse.

That isn't to say no one likes DBZ anymore (the DVDs and remastered series proves that there are still fans out there), but the target audience CN wants for DBZ have moved on to different fighting shonens.

[gtadbzman]

I doubt the remastered DBZ series would do well on CN. The "in" anime has gone from DBZ to Naruto (and maybe to Bleach). The DBZ fad in teen boys have passed, and the embarrassing "Evolution" movie just seems like it will make DBZ's situation worse.

That isn't to say no one likes DBZ anymore (the DVDs and remastered series proves that there are still fans out there), but the target audience CN wants for DBZ have moved on to different fighting shonens.I think that the new DBZ could do ok on AS. That's where most of the target audiance is. Or they could try to get the new generation in on this show.

[The Overlord]

I think that the new DBZ could do ok on AS. That's where most of the target audiance is. Or they could try to get the new generation in on this show.

Do you really expect a bunch of 18 to 35 years old to watch a Japanese kids cartoon in droves? Face it, the fad is dead.

[gtadbzman]

Do you really expect a bunch of 18 to 35 years old to watch a Japanese kids cartoon in droves? Face it, the fad is dead.Whatever. It would do better than most the anime shows on AS. Heck, it would probably do better than some of the original crappy shows to. You can't sit there and tell me that Tim & Eric would do better than a new and improved DBZ. And yes, the fad is still very much alive. Have you seen how good DBZ still sells. It beats Naruto, Pokemon, etc. in DVD sales.

[Gold Guy]

w/e it would do better than most the anime shows on AS. Heck, it would probably do better than some of the original crappy shows to. You can't sit there and tell me that Tim & Eric would do better than a new and improved DBZ.


Tim & Eric? That show can't even compare to DBGT!

[Master Moron]

As previously stated, there's no new DBZ series. And DBZ will never air on Adult Swim because cut ot uncut, DBZ is still considered to be a kids' show. Yes, AS did air The Ripping Friends, a Saturday morning cartoon, for a time, but I think that the main (if not only) reason why AS aired Ripping Friends was because it was created by John (Ren & Stimpy) Kricfalusi, and like most of John K's work, RF's humor sometimes flirted with the limits of good taste.

Ummm...Adult Swim has aired a lot of kids' shows. Yu Yu Hakusho, Case Closed, Inu-yasha, Bleach...

[gtadbzman]

Ummm...Adult Swim has aired a lot of kids' shows. Yu Yu Hakusho, Case Closed, Inu-yasha, Bleach...Very true. In Japan they let a lot slide in their kids shows because their standards aren't as high as in America. Case Closed is considered a kids show in Japan and it shows people murdered and cut to peices. :sweat: The Japanese version of DBZ says quite a few minor swear words as well.

[Rolling Cloud]

Very true. In Japan they let a lot slide in their kids shows because their standards aren't as high as in America. Case Closed is considered a kids show in Japan and it shows people murdered and cut to peices. :sweat: The Japanese version of DBZ says quite a few minor swear words as well.

.......I highly doubt that. D:

[J!!!]

.......I highly doubt that. D:
Well in the american version those minor words were carried to the games such as "hell"

[gtadbzman]

.......I highly doubt that. D:They say damn about every episode in the Japanese version. Sometimes they say the B word to.

[J!!!]

They say damn about every episode in the Japanese version. Sometimes they say the B word to.
No I'm pretty sure it's just "hell"

[gtadbzman]

No I'm pretty sure it's just "hell"They say damn and hell quite a bit in the Japanese version. I'd say at least once per episode.

[pokefiend]

They say damn about every episode in the Japanese version. Sometimes they say the B word to.

Maybe I'm just too ignorant but since when has the Japanese language held a word equivalent to English's B word and damn.

Just because you read the B word in a subbed episode doesn't mean the show used a word with equal offensiveness.

[gtadbzman]

Maybe I'm just too ignorant but since when has the Japanese language held a word equivalent to English's B word and damn.

Just because you read the B word in a subbed episode doesn't mean the show used a word with equal offensiveness.This has gotten way off track. I'm just saying that America sets higher standards then Japan does ok. And it shows when they consider a show like Case Closed to be a kids show.

[Daxdiv]

Maybe I'm just too ignorant but since when has the Japanese language held a word equivalent to English's B word and damn.

Just because you read the B word in a subbed episode doesn't mean the show used a word with equal offensiveness.

Well for Damn, it KUSO! Which can also be a word for the "S" word in some fansubber line. After all those crazy fansubber add stuff that isn't in the original. I basically notice that in DBGT where Goku said "Kuso" but for the English Sub on the DVD it was "Damn" I think that the subs on the DVD for InuYasha, Kuso was also used as Damn.

[Silverstar]

I think that the new DBZ could do ok on AS. That's where most of the target audiance is. Or they could try to get the new generation in on this show.

I doubt very much you'll ever see DBZ on [adult swim]. In America, it's considered a kids' show, and most 18-35-year-olds have moved on from it. And DBZ hasn't been off of TV that long; I'm sure most of the so-called "new generation" already knows about DBZ, since it's still producing video games and has merchandise up the wazoo.


Whatever. It would do better than most the anime shows on AS. Heck, it would probably do better than some of the original crappy shows to. You can't sit there and tell me that Tim & Eric would do better than a new and improved DBZ. And yes, the fad is still very much alive. Have you seen how good DBZ still sells. It beats Naruto, Pokemon, etc. in DVD sales.And who is buying the bulk of that merchandise? Kids and teens (more accurately, their parents are buying it for them). Not many 18-35 year olds.

Also, I don't see how you can accurately say that DBZ would do better than Tim & Eric. The 2 shows are nothing alike. They are aimed at completely different audiences and represent 2 completely different genres, so comparing the 2 is groundless. That's like saying that ECW Wrestling would get better ratings than Growing Up Creepie.

And some may (and will) disagree with me, but I personally don't consider a digitally remastered DBZ to be a 'new series'. To me, they're just the same old episodes which I've already seen about 1000 times, only this time in 1080i. But I'm not going to be ants at a picnic; if you consider this to be a new series and you're psyched about it, then by all means enjoy.

[Mickialla]

Well, Big O went from Toonami to [as], and let's say DBZ had never been introduced to the US as a kids show and went straight to [as] in it's uncut form, do you think you could imagine yourself 7-8 years ago believing that DBZ was a kids show?? DBZ does have some risque material in it, and there are a lot of anime on [as] that I think aren't necessarily adult and could possibly work on Cartoon Network. Whether or not DBZ is on the same level as [as] anime, I can't say, since I don't watch the [as] anime (not because I dislike them, but I just can't stay awake that long).

[Space Cadet]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/10/monk-wwe-raw-the-closer-and-burn-notice-lead-cable-viewing/12499/comment-page-1#comment-49001)


Star Wars:The Clone Wars(Friday 9-9:30 PM) - 2.512 million viewers

Down from the week before.


Batman: The Brave and the Bold(Friday 8-8:30 PM) - 2.031 million viewers

[chdr]

It seems like YAH is holding up pretty well :)

[gtadbzman]

And some may (and will) disagree with me, but I personally don't consider a digitally remastered DBZ to be a 'new series'. To me, they're just the same old episodes which I've already seen about 1000 times, only this time in 1080i. But I'm not going to be ants at a picnic; if you consider this to be a new series and you're psyched about it, then by all means enjoy.
If your talking about the FUNI season sets then that's different. I was talking about the new series in Japan where there bringing the episode count down to 100. I don't know. If FUNI dubs this with an accurate script and leaves the swear words in than maybe it could air on AS. But if they dub it to be a little kids show like the last dub (besides the first 67 episodes), then it would be more suitable for CN.

[chdr]

If your talking about the FUNI season sets then that's different. I was talking about the new series in Japan where there bringing the episode count down to 100. I don't know. If FUNI dubs this with an accurate script and leaves the swear words in than maybe it could air on AS. But if they dub it to be a little kids show like the last dub (besides the first 67 episodes), then it would be more suitable for CN.Same show, different treatment.

[Terra Branford]

From TVByTheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/10/monk-wwe-raw-the-closer-and-burn-notice-lead-cable-viewing/12499/comment-page-1#comment-49001)


Star Wars:The Clone Wars(Friday 9-9:30 PM) - 2.512 million viewers

Down from the week before.


Batman: The Brave and the Bold(Friday 8-8:30 PM) - 2.031 million viewers

Glad that Batman is doing well since it's my favorite show on that block.

[Space Cadet]

Week of 2/2-2/8:

Household Viewers:

Total Day: 816,000(#7 for cable)
Primetime: 1,108,000(#7 for cable)

Total Day Viewers:

Total Day: 1,031,000(#7 for cable)
Primetime: 1,488,000(#8 for cable)


With the exception of Primetime for Total Day, the ratings were down a week ago.



Here are the charts:

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K2-11 (000) 2/2-2/8/09:
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK~: 1231 DSNY*: 1160
DSNY*: 780 TOON: 809
TOON: 549 NAN: 407
NOGGIN: 296 NOGGIN: 387
NAN: 248 TOON DIS: 163
ADSM**: 176 NICKTOONS: 146
TOON DIS: 132 DISCOVERY: 87
NICKTOONS: 80 TLC: 84
DISCOVERY: 50 BET: 73
TLC: 36 ANIMAL PLANET: 68
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
~Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among K6-11 (000) 2/2-2/8/09:
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK~: 652 DSNY*: 872
DSNY*: 486 TOON: 558
TOON: 351 NAN: 310
NAN: 192 TOON DIS: 96
ADSM**: 113 NICKTOONS: 76
TOON DIS: 78 DISCOVERY: 65
NOGGIN: 50 TLC: 56
NICKTOONS: 41 NOGGIN: 54
DISCOVERY: 33 ANIMAL PLANET: 51
THE N: 26 MTV: 47
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
~Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p

Weekly Top Ten Basic Cable Ad Supported Networks, Total Day and Primetime Rankings among Tweens 9-14 (000) 2/2-2/8/09:
Total Day (000) Primetime (000)
NICK: 475 DSNY*: 729
DSNY*: 389 TOON: 445
TOON: 258 NAN: 397
NAN: 253 MTV: 121
ADSM**: 148 DISCOVERY: 100
DISCOVERY: 61 COMEDY: 79
MTV: 57 THE N: 72
TOON DIS: 52 ESPN: 70
THE N: 41 BET: 68
ESPN: 43 TOON DIS: 68
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data Live + SD Data
*Disney Channel is not an ad supported cable network, unlike the others in this listing.
**Denotes a network that broadcasts less than 51% of minutes in a 24hr day.
~Nickelodeon Total Day 6a-11p




Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Saturday, February 7, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1645; K6-11 1055; TWEENS 9-14 778
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1093; K6-11 668; TWEENS 9-14 473
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 610; K6-11 425; TWEENS 9-14 342
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 244; K6-11 140; TWEENS 9-14 82
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data


Nick easily won due to new episodes of iCarly, True Jackson, VP and The Naked Brothers Band.



Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Sunday, February 8, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1348; K6-11 840; TWEENS 9-14 602
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1205; K6-11 790; TWEENS 9-14 597
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 742; K6-11 510; TWEENS 9-14 357
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 181; K6-11 117; TWEENS 9-14 87
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data


Looks like Sonny with A Chance couldn't help Disney Channel top Nick for the day.

[Mickialla]

Live + Same Day Ratings Kids Cable Network Averages (000) for Sunday, February 8, 2009, 6am-11pm, ranked by K2-11:
NICKELODEON: K2-11 1348; K6-11 840; TWEENS 9-14 602
DISNEY CHANNEL: K2-11 1205; K6-11 790; TWEENS 9-14 597
CARTOON NETWORK: K2-11 742; K6-11 510; TWEENS 9-14 357
TOON DISNEY: K2-11 181; K6-11 117; TWEENS 9-14 87
Source: MTVN Research from Nielsen Media Research Data


Looks like Sonny with A Chance couldn't help Disney Channel top Nick for the day.

But like always, it continued to give it the upper hand against Cartoon Network.

[Terra Branford]

I seriously have to stop believing that CN or Disney will beat Nick without a big movie or a marathon of some kind. I keep getting let down.

[J!!!]

I seriously have to stop believing that CN or Disney will beat Nick without a big movie or a marathon of some kind. I keep getting let down.
The TDI marathon says hi.:sweat: Or was that just disney

[Terra Branford]

The TDI marathon says hi.:sweat: Or was that just disney

That's why I said without a big movie or a marathon of some kind.

[Freak]

That's why I said without a big movie or a marathon of some kind.

How did Cartoon Network do with the TDI Marathon again?

[Freak]

Star Wars:clone Wars 2.352

[Racattack!Force]

Where did you get those numbers? :confused:

[Freak]

Where did you get those numbers? :confused:

Internet.

[Mini Garbonzo]

Internet.
I don't think it's wise to reply to posts with one word answers, and you could be a bit more specific instead of just saying "Internet".

[Nexonius]

Link, please.

[Racattack!Force]

Internet.Um, any actual website? It can't be TvbytheNumbers, since it hasn't been updated since Tuesday. :sweat:

[warnerbroman]

Internet.and where did you get the internet?

[Andrew T. Hingson]

and where did you get the internet?

The internet of course.

[Lazerboy5000]

The internet of course.
Oh man, this sounds like some bad running gag from Fairly Odd Parents.

[warnerbroman]

Oh man, this sounds like some bad running gag from Fairly Odd Parents.it is

[Nexonius]

it is



Hey, I just made a new sig containing the "TZ gag".

[Darklordavaitor]

Oh man, this sounds like some bad running gag from Fairly Odd Parents.
Super toilet... in the internet!

[nakak]

Okay, enough of that gag. Let's get back to discussing about ratings, please.

[lemonhead75]

Does anyone know how Ed Edd n Eddy is doing?

[Racattack!Force]

Does anyone know how Ed Edd n Eddy is doing?We could compare last week's ratings to the previous week's to find out if the Eds had any real impact.

[Space Cadet]

Final K6-11 Ratings for Saturday, February 7, 2009 Cable Networks only (Live + SD Data):
Source: Disney Research from Nielsen Media Research Data
NICKELODEON 4.6/23 Avg. (7a-1p)
Jimmy Neutron 1.3/16; Jimmy Neutron 2.2/17; Fairly OddParents 3.9/23; Fairly OddParents 4.7/23; SpongeBob SquarePants 5.5/23; SpongeBob SquarePants 5.7/23; Barnyard (120 minutes) 5.9/26; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.0/21; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.0/22
CARTOON NETWORK 1.8/9 Avg. (7a-1p)
George of the Jungle 1.8/14; Transformer: Animated 1.7/10; Secret Saturdays 1.6/8; Pokemon: Diamond and Pearl Battle Dimension 2.5/11; Star Wars: Clone Wars 2.6/10; Ben 10: Alien Force 1.5/6; Batman: Brave & The Bold 1.8/7; Bakugan 1.7/7; Robotboy 1.3/6; Ben 10: Alien Force 1.5/8; Ben 10: Alien Force 2.0/10
DISNEY CHANNEL 2.0/10 Avg. (7a-1p)
The Wiggles 1.0/12; Little Einsteins 1.5/12; My Friends Tigger & Pooh 1.8/11; Handy Manny 1.6/8; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 1.7/7; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 1.5/6; Imagination Movers 2.0/8; Handy Manny 2.0/8; Phineas and Ferb 2.5/11; Phineas and Ferb 2.9/13; Finding Nemo (105 minutes) 3.4/18
TOON DISNEY (Jetix) 1.0/5 Avg. (7a-1p)
Suite Life of Zack and Cody 0.4/5; Phineas and Ferb 0.7/6; Phineas and Ferb 1.0/6; Phineas and Ferb 1.4/7; Cinderella III: Twist In (90 minutes) 1.5/6; Kim Possible 1.1/4; Lilo & Stitch 0.6/3; Lilo & Stitch 0.7/3; Lilo & Stitch 0.7/4; Lilo & Stitch 0.6/3




The Barnyard movie took away most of CN's viewers as you can see the ratings drop from 10-12 PM. Because of that(and the Disney Channel), CN was in third place for Saturday morning.

[Terra Branford]

I just noticed that Pokémon and Star Wars usually have the highest ratings on the block. Go figure.

[yoshirider13]

Im liking the shot up ratings between Secret saturdays and Pokemon :)

[J!!!]

Im liking the shot up ratings between Secret saturdays and Pokemon :)
I don't think a 1.6 is a good rating:sweat:

[Racattack!Force]

I don't think a 1.6 is a good rating:sweat:Considering how TSS is usually able to get at least a 2.0 on Saturday mornings, its horrible. :sweat:

[Lazerboy5000]

So do we know how well the Presidents Day Marathon did yet?

[Freak]

I wanna know how the Pokemon movie did.