Who else misses the 24-hour long CN Christmas Party?

[HomeMoviesFan]

Before the days of Adult Swim, Cartoon Network would air a 24-hour long Xmas marathon (named, of course, "The 24 hour Christmas Party") featuring holiday-themed episodes of shows they own as well as obscure animated Christmas movies and specials ("Yogi's First Christmas", "The Town that Santa Forgot", etc.) One of my favorites was a collection of old MGM cartoons.

Yes, they feature all of these shows in a truncated version of the marathon on Boomerang (watching it now), but it doesn't have everything the CN version used to have. The Boomerang version runs for less than half of the original. Yeah it's not as bad as totally gone, but still, childhood nostalgia is driving me to ask if any people still miss it. After all, not everyone has Boomerang...

[Swag Jenkins]

I think this thread would be best suited here.

[Don_East]

I do, big time, that's one thing I don't like about AS taking over the night. I used to go to sleep on Christmas Eve while watching it.

[HomeMoviesFan]

I think this thread would be best suited here.

Huh. I didn't even know these forums existed...

[Racattack!Force]

Huh. I didn't even know these forums existed...You didn't know that TOON ZONE, the best place for animation news, had a forum for a channel (mostly) dedicated to animated programing!? :eek: :sweat: I'm kinda surprised...

[HomeMoviesFan]

You didn't know that TOON ZONE, the best place for animation news, had a forum for a channel (mostly) dedicated to animated programing!? :eek: :sweat: I'm kinda surprised...

Honestly, I was aware of its existence, but I wasn't aware that you guys chat about classic CN as well. The general forum usually supplied those kind of posts.

So, back on topic...

[Racattack!Force]

Honestly, I was aware of its existence, but I wasn't aware that you guys chat about classic CN as well. The general forum usually supplied those kind of posts.

So, back on topic...We have a "90s CN" thread here that used to be sticked, but it kinda got "lost"...:sweat:

[Dr.Pepper]

I remember this. Too bad they have AS now.

[SUPER SPIDERMAN]

I remember this. Too bad they have AS now.
Yeah, I was expecting them to do the 24 hour thing again. but as long as AS is around, It ain't happening no more.:(

[Starbro]

Nah, I don't miss it, because I never watched it. I couldn't bring myself to sitting around watching Christmas specials on TV all day, even if I didn't have a dozen other things to do, which is often the case.

[chdr]

Yeah, I was expecting them to do the 24 hour thing again. but as long as AS is around, It ain't happening no more.:(

Technically, if AS held a marathon of Christmas episodes on the same day as CN, that could be a 24-hour Christmas marathon...

[Jayngfet]

I miss the life and adventures of santa claus, it's better than the average poorly done hey-it's-only-once-a-year christmas movie.

[hobbyfan]

If it wasn't for the fast that Adult Swim is a cash cow for CN's moronic suits, it'd get a 2-day break for Christmas.

I watched some of the Christmas Party on Da Boom last night in between breaks in Notre Dame blowing out Hawaii. Cable listings were off by about 5 minutes in some cases, same as with Boomeroyalty this month.

[chdr]

If it wasn't for the fast that Adult Swim is a cash cow for CN's moronic suits, it'd get a 2-day break for Christmas.

...or you know, the fact that adults want to watch TV too :shrug:

[SUPER SPIDERMAN]

Technically, if AS held a marathon of Christmas episodes on the same day as CN, that could be a 24-hour Christmas marathon...
Yeah, But can't Cartoon Network show 24 hours of cartoons specials. Without adultswim airing.

[Blackstar]

Yeah, But can't Cartoon Network show 24 hours of cartoons specials. Without adultswim airing.

Adult Swim is apparently doing too well in the ratings for Turner to not air it, even for one night.

[chdr]

Yeah, But can't Cartoon Network show 24 hours of cartoons specials. Without adultswim airing.


They could, but they'd probably just program the night with the same 7 specials they aired in the daytime.

[Mugsy]

Of course CN could, it's their network. If CN wanted to do something like this AS (which takes orders from CN) would have no choice....

[chdr]

Not really. AS is too big for that now.

[Mugsy]

Yes, but CN is bigger and it cad the shots, no matter what AS heads think. I love AS but I know better....

[chdr]

Not at this point. CN and AS aren't even considered one network by Turner anymore. CN has no input on the block and doesn't have the authority to preempt it anymore.

[Mugsy]

If you think that then Thats cool, but again, I know better. CN pulls the strings on AS and a lot of shows are still copywrighted to CN, they even flash the CN logo after every AS "Original"....

[Racattack!Force]

If you think that then Thats cool, but again, I know better. CN pulls the strings on AS and a lot of shows are still copywrighted to CN, they even flash the CN logo after every AS "Original"....[Adult Swim] is an over-glorified block. It's part of the network, but Cartoon Network has little control over it at this point.

[chdr]

[Adult Swim] is an over-glorified network. It's part of the network, but Cartoon Network has little control over it at this point.

Fixed. Nielsen Ratings considers it a network, Turner considers it a network, CN considers it a network. CN/AS is like Noggin/The N, two separate networks sharing the same channel space.

[Mugsy]

If CN saw somthing about AS they didn't like they would drop the hammer and it would be changed. It was seperated in ratings for purposes Warner had thought up but it really is controlled and operated by CN. CN copywrited most if not all of AS original programming and AS, as good as it is, is just a block Thats treated differently from the rest of the network...

[chdr]

If CN saw somthing about AS they didn't like they would drop the hammer and it would be changed. It was seperated in ratings for purposes Warner had thought up but it really is controlled and operated by CN. CN copywrited most if not all of AS original programming and AS, as good as it is, is just a block Thats treated differently from the rest of the network...
Williams Street has full control of AS, period. CN can't do anything because it's not their network (and even if they could, why? [as] is a ratings breadwinner).

As I said, same situation with Noggin/The N. Noggin has no control over what The N does or shows.

[Swag Jenkins]

If CN saw somthing about AS they didn't like they would drop the hammer and it would be changed. It was seperated in ratings for purposes Warner had thought up but it really is controlled and operated by CN. CN copywrited most if not all of AS original programming and AS, as good as it is, is just a block Thats treated differently from the rest of the network...

It was Turner who did that, not Warner Bros.

Anyway, AS is too successful right now for anything to happen to it. In fact, CN doesn't seem to mind giving up to the 10-11 PM slot to AS.


Williams Street has full control of AS, period. CN can't do anything because it's not their network (and even if they could, why? [as] is a ratings breadwinner).

As I said, same situation with Noggin/The N. Noggin has no control over what The N does or shows.

True, although Noggin and The N are separate networks now.

[Mugsy]

Williams Street has full control of AS, period. CN can't do anything because it's not their network (and even if they could, why? [as] is a ratings breadwinner).

As I said, same situation with Noggin/The N. Noggin has no control over what The N does or shows.


Well, problem with this statement is that it's wrong....

AS is a block aired on CN that is operated by a sister company but they still have to answer to the bigger brother, in this case, CN. And both company's are owned by Warner they both have to report there...

CN own's AS original programming, they run the network and their say goes, simple as that. Think of Raw and Smackdown, both are owned by the same company but run seperate shows and rosters, they still answer to "The boss". Even of CN let AS go become their own station on a different channel, what are they going to air? Family Guy 24/7....LOL.

CN has final say on AS, period.

[Mugsy]

It was Turner who did that, not Warner Bros.

Anyway, AS is too successful right now for anything to happen to it. In fact, CN doesn't seem to mind giving up to the 10-11 PM slot to AS.



True, although Noggin and The N are separate networks now.

CN does not mind at all I'm sure, they are going to be getting some kick back of course from the cash, plus maybe they figure that ratings are only good for those hours on Friday nights with the TSS replay and the CW encore, so they can handle it....

[Racattack!Force]

Well, problem with this statement is that it's wrong....

AS is a block aired on CN that is operated by a sister company but they still have to answer to the bigger brother, in this case, CN. Zinc both company's are owned by Warner they both have to report there...

CN own's AS original programming, they run the network and their say goes, simple as that. Think of Raw and Smackdown, both are owned by the same company but run seperate shows and rosters, they still answer to "The boss". Even of CN let AS go become their own station on a different channel, what are they going to air? Family Guy 24/7....LOL.

CN has final say on AS, period.They are owned by Turner Broadcasting. :sweat:

[Mugsy]

They are owned by Turner Broadcasting. :sweat:

Turner/Warner LOL easy to mix up...sorry. But fact still remains.

[chdr]

Well, problem with this statement is that it's wrong....

AS is a block aired on CN that is operated by a sister company but they still have to answer to the bigger brother, in this case, CN. Zinc both company's are owned by Warner they both have to report there...

CN own's AS original programming, they run the network and their say goes, simple as that. Think of Raw and Smackdown, both are owned by the same company but run seperate shows and rosters, they still answer to "The boss". Even of CN let AS go become their own station on a different channel, what are they going to air? Family Guy 24/7....LOL.

CN has final say on AS, period.


No, they don't. CN isn't AS's "superior", they both answer to Turner equally (the way I see it, TimeWarner hardly pays attention to Turner, let alone focus on its networks). Williams Street owns the AS originals, because they made them themselves. Likewise, WS can't control anything made by CN Studios. CN and AS (and even Boomerang) are at an equal level in Turner's eyes, Turner is who they listen to individually. Also, WS has repeatedly stated that they don't want a neiwrk, because they honestly don't have enough material to fill 24 hours.

[Racattack!Force]

No, they don't. CN isn't AS's "superior", they both answer to Turner equally (the way I see it, TimeWarner hardly pays attention to Turner, let alone focus on its networks). Williams Street owns the AS originals, because they made them themselves. Likewise, WS can't control anything made by CN Studios. CN and AS (and even Boomerang) are at an equal level in Turner's eyes, Turner is who they listen to individually. Also, WS has repeatedly stated that they don't want a neiwrk, because they honestly don't have enough material to fill 24 hours.Actually, all [as] originals are copyrighted by Cartoon Network. And [as] even considered airing Samurai Jack once. [Adult swim] is an over-glorified block that's treated as a network.

[Mugsy]

Check out AS's trademark information page, all originals and Adult Swim itself Is trademarked to CN. Argument over. Nick at Night is seperated for ratings from Nick much like AS and CN's situation, but it's still Nick. AS is a block, a long block, but a block none the less....

[Mickialla]

William Street isn't equal to Cartoon Network because it's a part of Cartoon Network. It shares it's Atlanta studio with them if I'm correct. [as] is basically a division of Cartoon Network.

[chdr]

William Street isn't equal to Cartoon Network because it's a part of Cartoon Network. It shares it's Atlanta studio with them if I'm correct. [as] is basically a division of Cartoon Network.


No, WS has their own building. According to Turner, AS is a sister network of CN. Note "network".

[Mugsy]

William Street isn't equal to Cartoon Network because it's a part of Cartoon Network. It shares it's Atlanta studio with them if I'm correct. [as] is basically a division of Cartoon Network.

I love you...

No, but seriously, your right. On the trademark info page on adult swims website it says all audio/video, images, programming and properties is owned and controlled by The Cartoon Network. It's there and it's in black and white baby. Signed, sealed and delivered.

Hope everyone is having a good x-mas BTW....

[chdr]

I love you...

No, but seriously, your right. On the trademark info page on adult swims website it says all audio/video, images, programming and properties is owned and controlled by The Cartoon Network. It's there and it's in black and white baby. Signed, sealed and delivered.

Hope everyone is having a good x-mas BTW....

I still have yet to see any actual proof that shows that CN has a direct influence on AS's decisions.

[SUPER SPIDERMAN]

Please stop the arguing. Adultswim is just a block, Just like You are here and Dynamite action squad.:sweat:

[Mugsy]

I still have yet to see any actual proof that shows that CN has a direct influence on AS's decisions.



My debate was never that CN makes decisions for AS, it's was that AS was owned and controlled by CN and should CN see fit to drop the axe on Williams Street, they could.

Also, I just want you to know Cheddar, I am not arguing with you in an aggressive way, I'm just debating with you and stating facts and the such, so please don't take any of it personaly or even seriously...

[chdr]

My debate was never that CN makes decisions for AS, it's was that AS was owned and controlled by CN and should CN see fit to drop the axe on Williams Street, they could.

Also, I just want you to know Cheddar, I am not arguing with you in an aggressive way, I'm just debating with you and stating facts and the such, so please don't take any of it personaly or even seriously...

Same here, just a little difference in opinions. I don't think we'll ever know the answer unless it comes straight from Turner, but I think that AS has grown too big for CN to have the authorization to axe it without question.

[Mugsy]

Same here, just a little difference in opinions. I don't think we'll ever know the answer unless it comes straight from Turner, but I think that AS has grown too big for CN to have the authorization to axe it without question.



I'm sorry, I should have worded it better, by dropping the axe I meant to make a creative change such as a program or a timeslot or something. Although I am sure if CN really wanted to they could find a way to kill AS and air their originals seeing as how CN owns them. I hope this NEVER happens, but you never know. I am sure there would be a massive Warner/Turner/CN/WS meeting if this ever came about but since it's owned by CN they could do it if they pleased....

[Mickialla]

What I think is that [as] is owned and is a part of CN, but CN executives allow [as] to run and program by itself. However, I'm sure that CN has all control on shutting down [as] whenever they feel, but they don't control what series' are produced and how they're scheduled.

[Mugsy]

Im sure CN doesent really get involved at all, but they could if they wanted to. The fine folks on Williams Street seem to be doing fine. I am sure however that CN had to approve the new 10pm slot though, WS I am sure had to ask, or maybe CN went to them with it and said "Hey, how does 10pm sound??"....

[Jayngfet]

Please stop the arguing. Adultswim is just a block, Just like You are here and Dynamite action squad.:sweat:

The DAS isn't a block, it's a curse on humanity itself.:D

[Mugsy]

I actually like DAS LOL....oh well....

It reminds me of being a kid...

[Cartoon1]

I'm just glad they showed the Jhonny bravo christmas special. I haven't seen the show in years.

[Mugsy]

The DAS isn't a block, it's a curse on humanity itself.:D


What is so bad about DAS that you hate it so much?

[warnerbroman]

Fixed. Nielsen Ratings considers it a network, Turner considers it a network, CN considers it a network. CN/AS is like Noggin/The N, two separate networks sharing the same channel space.and yet its has it own channel from nickelodeon why not just have boom/AS channel?

[Mugsy]

Even if it got it's own channel it would still be owned, controlled and operated by CN, so at THAT point it would be it's own network but still owns by CN. Until of gets it's own channel or CN sells it, it's a block.

[Old School Toon]

Even if it got it's own channel it would still be owned, controlled and operated by CN, so at THAT point it would be it's own network but still owns by CN. Until of gets it's own channel or CN sells it, it's a block.

CN doesn't own AS it's noted as a sister channel similar to Boomerang as a sister channel. Turner owns CN and AS and in turn Time Warner owns Turner Broadcasting. However AS is really nothing more then a glorified block as said before but it's still called a sister channel by the company that owns is. Cartoon Network is not a company which in turn means it can't own AS because AS also is not a company but a channel.. CN is a channel and anything bought will be bought by Turner. The same goes for Cartoon Network Studios and Willams Street. They are production houses at Turner but they are not companies. The income they make is divided by Turner because Turner is the owner. Now if CN Studios or Willams Street were independent then they would be considered companies that can purchase other studios but they aren't, they are both dependednt on Turner which is the company that buys the studios. All in all it's TBS that over sees anything involving CN or AS.

Also that's the reaon Pokemon airs exclusively on CN now. WB doesn't operate it's own block anymore and 4Kids does so only 4Kids originals appear on the block. Pokemon used to be a 4Kids production until The Pokemon Company took over the production. Even when Pokemon was still on Kids WB it aired on CN only because WB and Time/Warner allowed it not because CN picked up the license or Turner picked up the license. Time/Warner still holds the exclusive rights to air Pokemon in America and snice their other channel WB doesn't air shows and their contract with 4 Kids they had tolet the show appear on one of thier channels that didn't violate the 4Kids contract and the only channel left was CN. All in all it's Time/Warner who really makes the decisions for either network. If CN makes dud after dud then that affects Turner which then affects Time/Warner so Time/Warner is the company that's really loosing money so they are the ones who tell Turner to cancel the show because Time/Warner is the parent company of all.

This situation is just like how WB and TBS are both owned by Time/Warner and Time/Warner is the above all and while they are both independent entities they still have to follow chain of command and that's Time/Warner. However WB and TBS don't have the best relationship but it's getting better. Oh and if there's any confusion when I say TBS I mean the actual company owned by Ted Turner which is called Turner Broadcasting Systems not the channel TBS whih is alsoowned by TBS the company and is also a sister channel to CN.

[Mugsy]

Then you need to take a trip over to the AS site and click on trademark information and it clearly lists in black and white that everything is owned, controlled and operated by CN. Yes Turner owns CN and since AS is owns by CN then turner ownes both by default. But there is really nothing to own as far as AS is concerned because all AS is is a block on CN.

CN is AS, there is no "sister" at all. Go check it out. Also CN owns ALL of AS's original programming that isn't leased from other companies....

*yawn* ;)


CN doesn't own AS it's noted as a sister channel similar to Boomerang as a sister channel. Turner owns CN and AS and in turn Time Warner owns Turner Broadcasting. However AS is really nothing more then a glorified block as said before but it's still called a sister channel by the company that owns is. Cartoon Network is not a company which in turn means it can't own AS because AS also is not a company but a channel.. CN is a channel and anything bought will be bought by Turner. The same goes for Cartoon Network Studios and Willams Street. They are production houses at Turner but they are not companies. The income they make is divided by Turner because Turner is the owner. Now if CN Studios or Willams Street were independent then they would be considered companies that can purchase other studios but they aren't, they are both dependednt on Turner which is the company that buys the studios. All in all it's TBS that over sees anything involving CN or AS.

Also that's the reaon Pokemon airs exclusively on CN now. WB doesn't operate it's own block anymore and 4Kids does so only 4Kids originals appear on the block. Pokemon used to be a 4Kids production until The Pokemon Company took over the production. Even when Pokemon was still on Kids WB it aired on CN only because WB and Time/Warner allowed it not because CN picked up the license or Turner picked up the license. Time/Warner still holds the exclusive rights to air Pokemon in America and snice their other channel WB doesn't air shows and their contract with 4 Kids they had tolet the show appear on one of thier channels that didn't violate the 4Kids contract and the only channel left was CN. All in all it's Time/Warner who really makes the decisions for either network. If CN makes dud after dud then that affects Turner which then affects Time/Warner so Time/Warner is the company that's really loosing money so they are the ones who tell Turner to cancel the show because Time/Warner is the parent company of all.

This situation is just like how WB and TBS are both owned by Time/Warner and Time/Warner is the above all and while they are both independent entities they still have to follow chain of command and that's Time/Warner. However WB and TBS don't have the best relationship but it's getting better. Oh and if there's any confusion when I say TBS I mean the actual company owned by Ted Turner which is called Turner Broadcasting Systems not the channel TBS whih is alsoowned by TBS the company and is also a sister channel to CN.

[Old School Toon]

Then you need to take a trip over to the AS site and click on trademark information and it clearly lists in black and white that everything is owned, controlled and operated by CN. Yes Turner owns CN and since AS is owns by CN then turner ownes both by default. But there is really nothing to own as far as AS is concerned because all AS is is a block on CN.

CN is AS, there is no "sister" at all. Go check it out. Also CN owns ALL of AS's original programming that isn't leased from other companies....

*yawn* ;)

If TBS list AS as a sister channel then that's exactly what it is a sister channel. It's not that hard to understand.

right at the bottom of AS.com it clearly states "TM & © 2007 Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. (http://www.adultswim.com/footer/tbs/index.html) A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved

So while those certain shows are trademarked by CN or owned AS is a seperate entity completly from CN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Swim

On March 28, 2005, Atlanta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta,_Georgia)-based Turner Broadcasting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Broadcasting_System), split Adult Swim from Cartoon Network so Nielsen Media Research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_Media_Research) could treat it as a separate channel for ratings purposes

So you said it's CN who over sees everything AS related and that's not the case. You said if CN wants something on AS canceld it can and that's not the case. You keep saying it's a block when the parent company has said it isn't. CN has no power over AS at all only TBS does. I've proven my point because I never said anything about CN owning the rights to the shows. My argument was that AS is not a block and CN has no control over it and I have been able to prove that. You on the other hand haven't been able to and won't be able to prove your logic that CN owns AS and controls it.

[Mugsy]

When clicking on trade mark info on AS's official website of clearly states that AS and all of it's properties is owned and controlled by CN, and since CN is owned by Turner they all belong to turner, AS is a block, not a network by any means.

This is a dead issue anyhow, black and white is black and white....



If TBS list AS as a sister channel then t


hat's exactly what it is a sister channel. It's not that hard to understand.

right at the bottom of AS.com it clearly states "TM & © 2007 Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. (http://www.adultswim.com/footer/tbs/index.html) A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved

So while those certain shows are trademarked by CN or owned AS is not it's a seperate entity completly from CN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Swim

On March 28, 2005, Atlanta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta,_Georgia)-based Turner Broadcasting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Broadcasting_System), split Adult Swim from Cartoon Network so Nielsen Media Research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_Media_Research) could treat it as a separate channel for ratings purposes

So you said it's CN who over sees everything AS related and that's not the case. You said if CN wants something on AS canceld it can and that's not the case. CN has no power over AS at all only Turner does. I've proven my point.

[Old School Toon]

When clicking on trade mark info on AS's official website of clearly states that AS and all of it's properties is owned and controlled by CN, and since CN is owned by Turner they all belong to turner, AS is a block, not a network by any means.

This is a dead issue anyhow, black and white is black and white....

Nowhere does it say AS is owned by or opperated CN. Now you're just trying to force your self that you see that. All it says is that everything on the site is owned or opperated by CN not AS is owned by or opperated by CN. AS is a seperate entity from CN completly and unless your just that ignorant to the fact that the owner of each studo calls AS a seperate channel and CN has no power over it at all then you need help.

[Mugsy]

I don't have to prove it LOL it's in black and white right on Adult Swims website for the whole world to see. Click on trademark information on the bottom of the screen and it's there for your eyes to see.

"Controlled and Owned by The Cartoon Network" it also mentioned all audio and video is owned and controlled by CN...

Black and white is black and white :)



If TBS list AS as a sister channel then th

at's exactly what it is a sister channel. It's not that hard to understand.

right at the bottom of AS.com it clearly states "TM & © 2007 Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. (http://www.adultswim.com/footer/tbs/index.html) A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved

So while those certain shows are trademarked by CN or owned AS is a seperate entity completly from CN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Swim

On March 28, 2005, Atlanta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta,_Georgia)-based Turner Broadcasting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Broadcasting_System), split Adult Swim from Cartoon Network so Nielsen Media Research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_Media_Research) could treat it as a separate channel for ratings purposes

So you said it's CN who over sees everything AS related and that's not the case. You said if CN wants something on AS canceld it can and that's not the case. You keep saying it's a block when the parent company has said it isn't. CN has no power over AS at all only TBS does. I've proven my point because I never said anything about CN owning the rights to the shows. My argument was that AS is not a block and CN has no control over it and I have been able to prove that. You on the other hand haven't been able to and won't be able to prove your logic that CN owns AS and controls it.

[The Huntsman]

FusionFall is actually hosted on CNN servers. I’ll let that blow your minds for a few seconds… (1… 2… 3…) …as it just goes to show that everything is interconnected when it comes to massive corporations and their subsidiaries. It doesn’t really matter if the left hand is in charge of the right hand if both hands answer to the arms. This entire debate is kind of silly.

[Old School Toon]

I don't have to prove it LOL it's in black and white right on Adult Swims website for the whole world to see. Click on trademark information on the bottom of the screen and it's there for your eyes to see.

"Controlled and Owned by The Cartoon Network" it also mentioned all audio and video is owned and controlled by CN...

Black and white is black and white :)

Wow you really are just that ignorant. Nowhere does it say anyhting about AS being owned or opperated by CN at all. AS is onwed and operated by Turner.

[Mugsy]

Nowhere does it say AS is owned by or opperated CN. Now you're just trying to force your self that you see that. All it says is that everything on the site is owned or opperated by CN not AS is owned by or opperated by CN. AS is a seperate entity from CN completly and unless your just that ignorant to the fact that the owner of each studo calls AS a seperate channel and CN has no power over it at all then you need help.



Ignorance is on your end. Go to adult swims official website and click "trademark information" which is on the bottom of the screen and you will see.

*yawn*....

[Old School Toon]

Ignorance is on your end. Go to adult swims official website and click "trademark information" which is on the bottom of the screen and you will see.

*yawn*....

This is exactly what it says at the bottom of the screen.


TM & © 2007 Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. (http://www.adultswim.com/footer/tbs/index.html) A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/adultswim/footer/tools/img/turnerLogo.gif

AdultSwim.com is part of the Turner Sports and Entertainment Digital Network.

For the last time quit making things up. AS is a seperate entity from CN completly. CN has no power over AS at all and can make no decisons for AS at all. Willams Street and Turner make the decisons anything AS related not CN. Do you really think it was CN Studios that siad cut back CN an hour and let AS get an extra hour or TBS?

[Mugsy]

www.adultswim.com/footer/legal/trademark.html

I'm going to prepare a steak and enjoy being me :D

[Old School Toon]

www.adultswim.com/footer/legal/trademark.html (http://www.adultswim.com/footer/legal/trademark.html)

I'm going to prepare a steak and enjoy being me :D

That's where I've been getting eveything from genius and still no where does it say AS is owned and opperated by CN.

[Mugsy]

For the last time click on the trademark information link if your are capable of doing so, wow how hard is that??

I'm not trying to fight but wow some people have a hard time clicking a link..



This is exactly what it says at the bottom of the screen.


TM & © 2007 Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. (http://www.adultswim.com/footer/tbs/index.html) A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/adultswim/footer/tools/img/turnerLogo.gif

AdultSwim.com is part of the Turner Sports and Entertainment Digital Network.

For the last time quit making things up. AS is a seperate entity from CN completly. CN has no power over AS at all and can make no decisons for AS at all. Willams Street and Turner make the decisons anything AS related not CN. Do you really think it was CN Studios that siad cut back CN an hour and let AS get an extra hour or TBS?

[Mugsy]

That's where I've been getting eveything from genius and still no where does it say AS is owned and opperated by CN.



First paragraph, son....

[Old School Toon]

For the last time click on the trademark information link if your are capable of doing so, wow how hard is that??

I'm not trying to fight but wow some people have a hard time clicking a link..

Are you really retarded. The tradmark information has nothing saying AS is owned and opperated by CN. It says the same thing I said it said earler and thats the all things on the site including characters and shows are tradmarked by CN. It says nothing about AS being trademarked, owned or opperated by CN because it isn't. I've provided link after link and examples and yet you still continue to be idiotic. AS is a seperate entity from CN completly for the last time. CN has no say what so ever in anything AS related. AS is a seperate channel according to TBS which owns both CN and AS.

Also if you mean this then you really are quite slow

All materials on this Site, including, but not limited to cartoon characters, images, illustrations, audio clips, and video clips, are protected by copyrights, trademarks, and other intellectual property rights which are owned and controlled by The Cartoon Network ("TCN") or by other parties that have licensed their material to TCN

Nowhere does it say anything about AS being onwed or opperated by CN.

Now this is what it says on CN.com

Use of this site signifies your agreement to the Terms of Use. TM & © 2008 Cartoon Network. A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved.
CartoonNetwork.com is part of the Turner Sports and Entertainment Digital Network

If AS was onwed or opperated by CN then that would appear on the AS site but it doesn't. The Turner trademakr appears because AS is onwed and opperated by Turner.

[Mugsy]

*Zzzzzz* LOL, I've proved my point and nothing you can say can change that. LOL black and white is black and white.

Thanks for the insults, Thats a good way to prove your point ;)

*yawn*

I can't wait to watch CN's 2nd best block [adult swim] tonight!!!


Are you really retarded. The tradmark information has nothing saying AS is owned and opperated by CN. It says the same thing I said it said earler and thats the all things on the site including characters and shows are tradmarked by CN. It says nothing about AS being trademarked, owned or opperated by CN because it isn't. I've provided link after link and examples and yet you still continue to be idiotic. AS is a seperate entity from CN completly for the last time. CN has no say what so ever in anything AS related. AS is a seperate channel according to TBS which owns both CN and AS.

Also if you mean this then you really are quite slow

All materials on this Site, including, but not limited to cartoon characters, images, illustrations, audio clips, and video clips, are protected by copyrights, trademarks, and other intellectual property rights which are owned and controlled by The Cartoon Network ("TCN") or by other parties that have licensed their material to TCN

Nowhere does it say anything about AS being onwed or opperated by CN

[Old School Toon]

*Zzzzzz* LOL, I've proved my point and nothing you can say can change that. LOL black and white is black and white.

Thanks for the insults, Thats a good way to prove your point ;)

*yawn*

I can't wait to watch CN's 2nd best block [adult swim] tonight!!!



What have you proven exactly? Nothing at all. You continue to say CN owns and runs AS and that AS is a block but I've posted link after link and examples saying other wise.

[Mugsy]

What have you proven exactly? Nothing at all. You continue to say CN owns and runs AS and that AS is a block but I've posted link after link and examples saying other wise.

*Yawn* dead issue, black and white is black and white, i proved my point. Now on to the original post....

It's good that CN played a lot of holiday specials this year, I haven't seen the Loony Toons one in ages and it brought back some good memories!!! Looking foward to 1/1/09!!!!

[Old School Toon]

*Yawn* dead issue, black and white is black and white, i proved my point. Now on to the original post....

It's good that CN played a lot of holiday specials this year, I haven't seen the Loony Toons one in ages and it brought back some good memories!!! Looking foward to 1/1/09!!!!
LOL you're a complete retard. Again with "black and white" yet in your only example or link you could come up with you continue to make up things that don't exsist anywhere on the tradmark information. Anyways I'm going to leave it alone because it's obvious you are quite ignorant and delusional and continue to think you've proven a point when you haven't, because in all actuality the only link you provided damaged your idiotic logic even more becuase not only did it say nothing similar to what you kept saying it said in "black and white" it also showed you have a knack for making things up to try to back up your idiotic logics.

[Mugsy]

LOL you're a complete retard. Again with "black and white" yet in your only example or link you could come up with you continue to make up things that don't exsist anywhere on the tradmark information. Anyways I'm going to leave it alone because it's obvious you are quite ignorant and delusional and continue to think you've proven a point when you haven't, because in all actuality the only link you provided damaged your idiotic logic even more becuase not only did it say nothing similar to what you kept saying it said in "black and white" it also showed you have a knack for making things up to try to back up your idiotic logics.

You know something, it's one thing to state your case and make points which we both did but it's another thing to call someone flat out names lime "retard", there is nothing funny about a person with that problem and calling someone an "idiot" elevates a debate into a fight and there is no need for that. If you took this debate as personal then maybe you need to take some time to deal with your own insecurities and relax a little instead of insulting.

Look at me and Cheddar, we debated aggressivly yesterday but we kept an air of maturity and professionlism that showed because we are mature enough to do so.

I will no longer argue this topic of CN owning Adult Swim, as it appears some peoe don't know how to handle it

[Jave]

This thread has gone extremely off topic that it's impossible to clean it up. I'm locking it now and sending infractions due to several rule violations.

For the record, CN does own [as], they just give the guys at Williams Street freedom as they see please.

Locked.