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Wolf Boy2
12-07-2008, 03:11 PM
In the deleted storyboard scene of ROTJ, Old Bruce goes inside Arkham Asylum and sees something that makes him gasp.

I can't make out those drawings for the life of me.

WHAT DID HE SEE??!:eek:
Cortez2301
12-07-2008, 04:19 PM
I think it was the Joker's dug up corpse or something like that.
batsy2
12-07-2008, 04:44 PM
In the deleted storyboard scene of ROTJ, Old Bruce goes inside Arkham Asylum and sees something that makes him gasp.

I can't make out those drawings for the life of me.

WHAT DID HE SEE??!:eek:


was there any recorded voices in the delted scenes ?
Cortez2301
12-07-2008, 04:49 PM
was there any recorded voices in the delted scenes ?Not in the scene he was referring to but in the ones earlier where Price was featured.
batsy2
12-07-2008, 04:50 PM
Not in the scene he was referring to but in the ones earlier where Price was featured.

so there was no recorded lines when harley sends the two goons to get robin while she was beating him ?
Cortez2301
12-07-2008, 04:52 PM
so there was no recorded lines when harley sends the two goons to get robin while she was beating him ?I'm not sure which one you are talking about (didn't see that one) but I doubt there was any dialogue).
Peter Paltridge
12-07-2008, 04:59 PM
I think it was the Joker's dug up corpse or something like that.
It's actually a mannequin hung on a noose with the words I KNOW scribbled across it.

I don't get it either. How does that relate to what happened there?
screw on head
12-07-2008, 05:00 PM
I remember the scene. I think it was only a dummy of the Joker hanging from the ceiling. It would've been very cool if Joker had actually dug up his own corpse and strung it from the ceiling but I don't think it was that. If it were Joker's corspe, that kind of nixes the mystery of "Is it the original Joker running around or is it an imitator?". I bet the answer can be found in teh screenplay for the film that was released at the time, I dont' have it with me but I think it's stated in there (that it was a dummy I think).
Wolf Boy2
12-07-2008, 05:32 PM
It would've been very cool if Joker had actually dug up his own corpse and strung it from the ceiling but I don't think it was that.
What would a 50+ year old corpse even look like? Burried under Arkham with no embalming or preservation ... it would just be a skeleton and a purple suit within a couple years.
screw on head
12-07-2008, 05:47 PM
What would a 50+ year old corpse even look like? Burried under Arkham with no embalming or preservation ... it would just be a skeleton and a purple suit within a couple years. Yeah good point. Even still, I'd prefer that it was a severely decomposed corpse if they went that route (zombie-ish imagery is way cooler to me than a skeleton condition). I'd rather it be romantically correct than technically correct!
ShadowStar
12-07-2008, 06:02 PM
What would a 50+ year old corpse even look like? Burried under Arkham with no embalming or preservation ... it would just be a skeleton and a purple suit within a couple years.

Plus, "Joyride" apparently showed the Joker's skeleton.
Cortez2301
12-07-2008, 06:45 PM
Plus, "Joyride" apparently showed the Joker's skeleton.I think it was a JOKERZ member they left dead.
Wolf Boy2
12-07-2008, 07:13 PM
I think it was a JOKERZ member they left dead.
The hell? How did I miss that?

I've now got to get my DVDs out and watch Joyride.
TheScarecrow
12-07-2008, 09:47 PM
I remember the scene. I think it was only a dummy of the Joker hanging from the ceiling. It would've been very cool if Joker had actually dug up his own corpse and strung it from the ceiling but I don't think it was that. If it were Joker's corspe, that kind of nixes the mystery of "Is it the original Joker running around or is it an imitator?". I bet the answer can be found in teh screenplay for the film that was released at the time, I dont' have it with me but I think it's stated in there (that it was a dummy I think).

I have it. It's a dummy.
Hanshotfirst113
12-07-2008, 10:09 PM
I have it. It's a dummy.

What did it signify?
defunctzombie
12-07-2008, 10:24 PM
The hell? How did I miss that?

I've now got to get my DVDs out and watch Joyride.
It's on the right corner as they are going into a tunnel. WF may even have a screen of it.

Here it is:

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/joyride/03.jpg
limel
12-07-2008, 11:04 PM
From the screenplay, page 53:


He[Terry] looks up to see what Bruce saw, suspended in the dim glow of a broken skylight. It is an obviously fake, stitched up and crudely made Jokey dummy swinging from a rope. Painted across its body are the chilling words: I KNOW.

I'm not sure what it signifies, it was probably deleted because people would get confused with its significance.
TheScarecrow
12-07-2008, 11:21 PM
What did it signify?

INTERIOR: OPERATING THEATER

Terry enters the operating room and looks around. He looks up to see what Bruce saw, suspended in the dim glow of a broken skylight. It is an obviously fake, stitched up and crudely made Joker dummy swinging from a rope. Painted across its body are the chilling words: I KNOW. The beeping of a pocket pager alerts Terry. He takes it out and glances at it.


TERRY

Dana


Edit: limel beat me to it.
Donomark
12-08-2008, 12:59 PM
Yeah, I thought it was his skeleton cuz of the drawings, which were ass. Freaked me out to be honest.
Light Lucario
12-08-2008, 09:59 PM
It's on the right corner as they are going into a tunnel. WF may even have a screen of it.

Here it is:

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/joyride/03.jpg

I remember seeing that picture before. It actually is kind of creepy to think that Joker dug up his own skelton. Wow. The scene that people have described is also giving me the chills.
DisneyBoy
12-10-2008, 08:09 PM
It's actually a mannequin hung on a noose with the words I KNOW scribbled across it.

I don't get it either. How does that relate to what happened there?

That scene was kept for the comic book adaptation of ROTJ, and it was drawn by Craig Rousseau. It is in fact a dummy with a Joker jacket and pants and a smiley-faced Mask, with I Know scrawled across the torso I believe.

Random and confusing. Glad they cut it from the film. Seems pretty dangerous anyways for Bruce to go out to Arkham by himself just to walk around the ruins, given their significance.
Wolf Boy2
12-12-2008, 02:01 PM
Random and confusing. Glad they cut it from the film. Seems pretty dangerous anyways for Bruce to go out to Arkham by himself just to walk around the ruins, given their significance.
Also, if the skeleton in "Joyride" was indeed Mr. J, than wouldn't Arkham be the hideout of the Jokerz?

I think the bit was written just to shove needless homages into the movie. Though, referencing BTAS is all well and good, the relics in the Batcave are more than good enough. This is a Joker movie anyway, so do we even NEED to be reminded of Ivy and Harvey and all those other guys? Not that I don't love homages, but they wouldn't have improved the movie anyway. The BB series was already chock-full of BTAS relics.

I did miss the conversation between Price and Old Bruce, though. That was a great scene, and I'm a sucker for tense dialogue. This may be blasphemy, but I would trade equal time of fight scenes for that conversation bit to be in the film. I found the Jokerz rather stupid anyway, and didn't enjoy their fight scenes much at all.
DisneyBoy
12-12-2008, 03:19 PM
I thought they were very well designed, with distinct personalities. Great supporting cast. Too bad they weren't in the series.

Were there really homages to Ivy in that deleted scene? The comic showed basically the dummy, but that's it.
TheVileOne
12-12-2008, 03:34 PM
Well we did get to see the Jokers again in JLU at least.
The Penguin
12-12-2008, 11:18 PM
I'd never heard of this until now, but I have a thought provided I understand the details correctly.

So this dummy is in the old Arkham, right? Is it possible it was there all those years ago as a way to mock Bruce on the way in and "show" him that he was walking into an ambush? "What does Joker mean, 'I know'?" Batman would think to himself and a few horrifying minutes later he would find out what the evil clown knew and how he had obtained the information. Seeing it all those years later would be an added reminder of what happened. I assume this would have taken place before we knew the story of what happened so it wouldn't have made sense until after the flashback.

Regarding the Joyride pic, looking at the picture and trying to remember without throwing in the DVD, I think that's a turquoise jacket with a purple flower, something we never saw the DCAU Joker wear. It's a Joker that things didn't end well for, not The Joker.
DisneyBoy
12-15-2008, 02:24 PM
Regarding the Joyride pic, looking at the picture and trying to remember without throwing in the DVD, I think that's a turquoise jacket with a purple flower, something we never saw the DCAU Joker wear. It's a Joker that things didn't end well for, not The Joker.

Incorrect...I'm pretty sure we saw a Kenner Joker figure with that exact color scheme :p
The Penguin
12-15-2008, 02:28 PM
Incorrect...I'm pretty sure we saw a Kenner Joker figure with that exact color scheme :pWell I guess I can't argue with Pogo Stick Joker (http://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Batman-Robin-Action-Figure/dp/B000FS4REM/ref=toonzone03/). ;)
Wolf Boy2
12-15-2008, 08:45 PM
Well I guess I can't argue with Pogo Stick Joker (http://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Batman-Robin-Action-Figure/dp/B000FS4REM/ref=toonzone03/). ;)
Yep! I almost pointed that out. :anime: That was the first and only Joker figure I bought back in the day. I ended getting two of them.