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James Harvey
12-05-2008, 07:35 AM
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Batman: The Brave and The Bold
Episode #03 - Terror on Dinosaur Island!
Original Airdate - December 5th, 2008
Ocean Master and Black Manta join forces to assassinate Aquaman who calls in Batman to aid him.

Comments?

Mod Note: Thread updated.

Neo Ultra Mike
12-05-2008, 08:00 PM
I Didn't see a talkback up for the newest Brave and The Bold episode in a minute so I'm making it now. This is the talkback for the third episode of this show.

EDIT: This was made back when I made the thread but apparently James Harvey made it in the past or soemthing and just never updated it until after I made mine. Don't know how he did that... or really why when the thread was already there but whatever.

ABrown
12-05-2008, 08:05 PM
"I'm hurt that you didn't tell me that you were stopping by!"

Common, even the Super Friends didn't go there.

Bunai
12-05-2008, 08:10 PM
wow Aquaman
he's so jolly :anime:

eh. you can slap on any personality for him and it works.

that Manta dude really doesn't have a flat head, does it?
i was reading about him, and the animation is making it seem like his outfit is off.

Grenzer
12-05-2008, 08:14 PM
It's strange to see Aquaman so... happy. He hasn't been this way in the comics for decades, and Superfriends was the last time he was shown this way in animation. It's kind of refreshing, until you remember it was this sort of banal happy-go-lucky style that kept on boring readers in the 60's, leading to Arthur's title getting cancelled and recancelled.

tb4000
12-05-2008, 08:15 PM
wow Aquaman
he's so jolly :anime:

eh. you can slap on any personality for him and it works.

that Manta dude really doesn't have a flat head, does it?
i was reading about him, and the animation is making it seem like his outfit is off.
Nah, he's human, he just does his evil under the sea.

And yeah, Aquaman is hilarious. He's like Errol Flynn.

Bunai
12-05-2008, 08:19 PM
Ocean Master...
that's a little big of him.

it sucks when you find out that your brother is a jerkwad

ABrown
12-05-2008, 08:19 PM
Who is that doing Aquaman's voice? I know I've heard it before.

chdr
12-05-2008, 08:20 PM
I haven't thoroughly enjoyed a DC show like this in a long, long time.

batsy2
12-05-2008, 08:20 PM
Who is that doing Aquaman's voice? I know I've heard it before.


john dimaggio who also played gorilla grodd in the series

Bloody Marquis
12-05-2008, 08:24 PM
While this episode is good, I can't really help but get annoyed about these few moments of genre blindness.

LordTerminal
12-05-2008, 08:25 PM
john dimaggio who also played gorilla grodd in the series


Although more people know him as the voice of the character who coined this phrase: "Bite my shiny metal ass."

Anyway, so far this episode seems to be one of the cheesiest ones in the show so far.

Bunai
12-05-2008, 08:25 PM
so the guy is just evil to be evil? geez

LOL @ lock picking shrimp.

ABrown
12-05-2008, 08:29 PM
Although more people know him as the voice of the character who coined this phrase: "Bite my shiny metal ass."


john dimaggio who also played gorilla grodd in the series

Yeah I'm definitely hearing Dr. Drakken or Bender coming from Aquaman's mouth.

Ultra8
12-05-2008, 08:43 PM
:D :D Man!! It's been ages since I've seen the Aqua-ball attack.

Chiptooth
12-05-2008, 08:49 PM
I give this one three out of five stars (Bat-Good). It's O.K., but it's a little weak in places where the first two episodes weren't.

DiMaggio's Aquaman sounds great. Like Kenny's Plas, IMO he's a pleasant surprise. Orm's voice, on the other hand, I thought could have stood to be something a little deeper.

It's clear from the first sign of Fluke that he's going to end up showing up later on in the episode to save someone's Batbutt, although in a way I suppose one could see that as a nod to the self-sacrificing porpoise in the '66 Batman movie - and kudos to having Batman punch a shark again. You can never go wrong with that. :D

Also, while I didn't have a problem with the Batplane transforming into a Batsub - since that's the kind of flat-out merchandising gimmick I've long come to expect from WB's handling of the Batman property - the animation of it was poor in comparison to the way the plane was animated in the previous episode.

Racattack!Force
12-05-2008, 09:10 PM
Shouldn't this be mirrored on the CN board? :confused:

Mod Note: Thread Mirrored.

Comics_the_QB
12-05-2008, 09:23 PM
I really did enjoy this episode. Black Manta had a creepy voice, which added to his character. Aquaman didn't bother me with his optimism. It was quite amusing at times. I belive this was one episode where the hero didn't have to prove himself as much to Batman. Which is a good start.

The opening was great as usual. Loved the Pandora's box theme with it. Atom was really cool, even if he didn't say anything (did he?).

8/10

"Where Batman goes, adventure is sure to follow"

Best quote so far in this show.

Racattack!Force
12-05-2008, 09:27 PM
"Fluke. The world's most obnoxious dolphin."

Awesome quote. I pretty much loved this episode. Black Manta was a cool character, and I liked Aquaman's bragging attitude.

EmaHalJordan
12-05-2008, 09:29 PM
¿The Atom is Ray Palmer or Ryan Choi?

Blackstar
12-05-2008, 09:54 PM
Aquaman used his hard water ball attacks and aqua shapes (a sword and a shield) in addition to his telepathy. Now, if Arthur had been able to use those moves on Super Friends, he might not have had to endure decades of abuse from stand-up comedians.

HEATXZ
12-05-2008, 10:01 PM
¿The Atom is Ray Palmer or Ryan Choi?
Ryan Choi(I wish that they given him a line)
Great episode,They did a great job with Aquaman and Black Manta,I didn't know that Aquaman can use water to make swords
I can't wait for the Red Tornado episode next week :anime:

Comics_the_QB
12-05-2008, 10:03 PM
I do hope Atom returns for something bigger and better next time. I really liked him in this.

Silverstar
12-05-2008, 10:25 PM
Aquaman used his hard water ball attacks and aqua shapes (a sword and a shield) in addition to his telepathy. Now, if Arthur had been able to use those moves on Super Friends, he might not have had to endure decades of abuse from stand-up comedians.

Yeah, I enjoyed this version of Aquaman. He was kind of cheesy, but fun. I liked this genial braggart persona better than the DCAU version of Arthur, who was kind of an arrogant ass, to be honest. His mega-strength, hard water creations and yes, the aquatic telepathy were all cool powers which were used well here (though he was able to use his telepathy on a whale, which is technically not a fish, but Arthur can communicate telepathically with more than just sea life, after all). I hope folks were taking notes here: Aquaman can do more than just talk to fish, all right? So no more 'Aquaman is lame' jokes. This wasn't the best story ever written but the characters made it entertaining.


that Manta dude really doesn't have a flat head, does it?

:lol: You know, from the first time I saw Black Manta on Challenge of the Super Friends as a kid, I wondered if he was wearing a helmet or if that was actually his head.

BCI Guy
12-05-2008, 10:49 PM
I haven't thoroughly enjoyed a DC show like this in a long, long time.

It's just so much fun. I loved this episode as much as the first 2.

Honestly, this may be the perfect example of what an "All Ages" cartoon can be.

I just love it.

M.O.D.O.K.
12-06-2008, 12:29 AM
The first segment where Batman uses Atom to fight Felix Faust was just OK. I wished he had a speaking role, but I have a feeling that we'll see this Atom again sometime.

As for the episode itself, it was also good, but not as good as the last two. The humor wasn't as sharp as always (though Batman's line about Fluke and Orm/Ocean Master's torture at the end were hilarious), but the rest was well-done. I liked the fact that we got a good look at Aquaman and his family issues, as well as something about his character. I actually enjoy this new characterization of him as an arrogant, but well-meaning and jovial ruler of Atlantis. His powers were also used creatively.

As for the villains, they actually improved a little. Ocean Master had a good backstory as a back-stabbing, bitter older brother. However, his voice-work was not impressive, and sounded kind of dull. Black Manta, on the other hand, did not have an interesting motive, but his voice-work by Kevin Michael Richardson was excellently done. It was a smoother Tombstone with a mask.

Overall, another entertaining episode, but not as good as the first two.

4.5/5

NEXT WEEK: As the holidays come near, Batman helps Blue Beetle take on Sportsmaster. Later, he teams up with Red Tornado to foil Fun Haus and its holiday crime wave, and leans a little about humanity from the android.

Jerry Mouse
12-06-2008, 01:13 AM
Awesome episode! For me, this is the best one yet. I mean Batman AND Aquaman? How cool is that??!!

ShayeraHol
12-06-2008, 01:29 AM
I loved this episode once again! Aquaman, Black Manta, Ocean Master, Atom, and Felix Faust were awesome!!!! :D

DarkKnight
12-06-2008, 01:53 AM
This was definitely my favorite episode thus far. I knew Aquaman/Black Manta wouldn't disappoint.

tucsoncoyote
12-06-2008, 02:20 AM
Actually I'm impressed.. First off this is surprising how well John Dimaggio can play a straight edged jovial fellow who's a bit of a braggart (Namely Aquaman) as well as an evil gorilla (Grodd), but still it's amazing what kind of episode this was.

I definitely liked the opening scenes (but I give points off for lack of the Atom having a speaking part), but the rest of this episode was quite entertaining, especially the part about "Fluke, the Worlds most obnoxious dolphin"

As for Arthur (Aka Aquaman) This brings back the day.. and yes I will agree. Aquaman is NOT Lame.. Quite well done really..

I give this episode 3.5 out of 5 (again taking off points for the Atom not having a speaking part, plus the fact that this one was a bit of a let down, due to the fact that maybe Aquaman was a bit TOO jovial.)

:coyote:

The New Titans
12-06-2008, 04:02 AM
Ryan Choi(I wish that they given him a line)
Great episode,They did a great job with Aquaman and Black Manta,I didn't know that Aquaman can use water to make swords
I can't wait for the Red Tornado episode next week :anime:

Weirdly, the costume is that of Ray Palmer's. This episode rocked. Black Manta finally makes a comeback in animation, and we get to see Aquaman and Felix Faust as well!

4/5

ShadowGUN
12-06-2008, 07:58 AM
"Outrageous."

LOL

Cool episode. I like this version Aquaman. He was entertaining. It was cool they way he use water to create a sword.
9/10

Mister Intensity
12-06-2008, 08:24 AM
I love the way they referenced actual comic book stories in the episode. I remember reading the old Brave and the Bold story where Orm sunk a nuclear sub that Batman referred to.

Style
12-06-2008, 11:34 AM
Question to anyone who may know: in the opening sequence, I understand how the Atom's presence could explain Batman escaping his bonds, but how did Atom help Batman with the levitation stuff? Is that an aspect of his powers I didn't know about?

Racattack!Force
12-06-2008, 12:12 PM
Question to anyone who may know: in the opening sequence, I understand how the Atom's presence could explain Batman escaping his bonds, but how did Atom help Batman with the levitation stuff? Is that an aspect of his powers I didn't know about?I dunno. I was thinking about asking, but I was afraid everyone would yell at me for my stupidity. :sweat:

Kal-El1138
12-06-2008, 01:20 PM
I just don't know how you can't enjoy this show. Honestly. It's the most fun you'll ever have watching a superhero cartoon. Light, Silver Age inspired fun that doesn't take itself too seriously ala a certain comic book film franchise(that rhymes with Schmatman Shbegins).

It's just a fun, lighthearted 22 minutes that doesn't try to be anything but exciting, enjoyable and good guys beating up bad guys. How cool is that? The Batman show I've always wanted. Give me this Batman from now on, or nothing.

John was off the hook as Aquaman and Diedrich was killing as Batman, as usual. I do kind of wish Ocean Master would've had more screen time before being owned by Black Manta, though. I was digging that OM design. And can I just say that Kevin Michael Richardson as Black Manta is perfect?

I love this show. I'm with James Tucker in saying that this is the Batman show I've always wanted to see. The world is depressing enough as is, so give me a hero who is truly a hero and not a crybaby.

As for the Atom/Batman thing everyone keeps talking about, I suspect it's one of those fast and loose, "don't ask" questions deals they like to pull every once in a while.

Kal

AdamYJ
12-06-2008, 07:52 PM
wow Aquaman
he's so jolly :anime:

eh. you can slap on any personality for him and it works.

He's as ever-changing as the sea. :p

Anyway, the thing this reminded me of was I remember reading a little profile of Aquaman in an old JLA issue that refferred to him as being "broad and bombastic", which is pretty much the only way to describe this version of Aquaman. Of course, I look back for it now and all I find is profiles that say "regal, quiet and serious as the tides", so now I wonder where I read that.

Anyway, awesome episode. Great to see Aquaman's two top foes featured. And I love this version of Aquaman. He seemed like an old braggart sailor or something. Yeah, that's about it. He's like Old Stormalong crossed with a dash of Marvel's version of Hercules.

DELETED
12-06-2008, 08:06 PM
I like that Aquaman can do a Rasengan technique like Naruto.

mr.happy
12-06-2008, 08:09 PM
Not as good as the previous two episodes, but still quite enjoyable. It was nice to see a more light-hearted take on the always self-involved Aquaman, though. It made it one of the most likable Aquaman incarnations I think I've ever seen.

Bloody Marquis
12-06-2008, 08:19 PM
I like that Aquaman can do a Rasengan technique like Naruto.
Except those weren't balls of spiral chakra. Those were highly pressurized water balls.

Silverstar
12-06-2008, 08:25 PM
Question to anyone who may know: in the opening sequence, I understand how the Atom's presence could explain Batman escaping his bonds, but how did Atom help Batman with the levitation stuff? Is that an aspect of his powers I didn't know about?

My guess is that Atom was simply grabbing and moving the stuff around at microscopic size so it would look like levitation. I was never sure if Atom retained his strength in micro form, or if he can fly (though he flew on Super Friends) but that's just a guess.

Lynxara
12-06-2008, 08:26 PM
Except those weren't balls of spiral chakra. Those were highly pressurized water balls.

But Aquaman threw a ball of something in a fight! That's just like Naruto!

Racattack!Force
12-06-2008, 08:58 PM
But Aquaman threw a ball of something in a fight! That's just like Naruto!Anyone can throw balls in a fight. :sweat:

AdamYJ
12-06-2008, 09:08 PM
But Aquaman threw a ball of something in a fight! That's just like Naruto!

Aquaman used to do that all the time in the old Filmation shorts. They were just smaller in those cartoons.

Lynxara
12-06-2008, 09:11 PM
This forum badly needs a sarcasm smiley. :D

saherrin
12-07-2008, 12:57 PM
I really liked the design and voice for Black Manta (guilty pleasure, he was my favorite of the LOD on the COTS show for the same reasons.) I remember the old "waterballs" Aquaman used to throw in the old filmation shorts (BTW, the sharks make a better transportation device versus a sea horse with severe gigantism. Fluke and Tusky are a push (who doesn't like adorable, lovable sea creatures?)

DiMaggio did a really good Aquaman, although I agree it was a bit too jovial (on the other hand, it's a show for kids, technically.) I do think the purpose to help Orm was to rehab him versus torturing him with tales of Aquaman's conquests/victories. How does that help him (again, it's a show for kids, but darn it, I want to know)?

Twilightpacer
12-07-2008, 02:39 PM
This is my favourite episode of Batman TBATB so far and i liked this version of Aquaman, Black Manta, Faust and Atom though it would have been nice to hear Atom say something.

While i thought the JL/JLU Aquaman was okay, i like this arrogant yet well meaning and more jovial version better. I think they showcased his abilities (and more of them) a lot better here. I also think he's quite handsome and that never hurt a character either.
:) :D

DELETED
12-07-2008, 06:22 PM
This forum badly needs a sarcasm smiley. :D


THANK YOU! I "know" that wasn't chakra he was wielding, but it sure looked like it.:shrug:

Goodfellow
12-07-2008, 08:08 PM
Wow, this episode was bad. I'm sorry, but I couldn't even watch the entire thing it was so bad. Aquaman is just horrible, especially his voice. They turned the big bad ass of the sea into a [expletive deleted]. Sorry, but my intelligence is insulted by what they did to him.

Mod Note: Derogatory comment removed. Further language will result in the appropriate disciplinary action.

Anthonynotes
12-07-2008, 09:17 PM
Another fun episode. Nice to see Aquaman's not the harpoon-handed-crank who looks like an ex-roadie for some heavy-metal band.

Family's always played a big role in Aquaman's stories and development, so not surprising to see it play a big role here.

Also amusing to see the return of Aquaman's hard-water balls from the 60s Filmation shorts. To the person who asked why he didn't have 'em in the "Super Friends", probably related to the fact the writers couldn't show much in the way of fisticuffs thanks to standards-and-practices of the day banning pretty much almost all violence.

Re: talking to whales: last I checked, whales count as "sea creatures", and thus under the Sea King's domain. :-p

>>They turned the big bad ass of the sea into a [expletive deleted]<<

Hmph... I can probably take a guess as to what the deleted-obscenity was... still, this gay guy likes the Sea King well enough in this episode. :-)

As for his comics not lasting long---pretty much all of Aquaman's various solo series over the decades have been short-lived, some (like David's run) lasting longer than others, but none of them ever having reached the 100th issue. He seems to have no problem having long runs as either a JLA member or as a backup character in various comics. One of the few DC heroes besides Supes, Bats and Wondy to be continuously published from the Golden Age through the Silver Age during the 50s downturn in superhero comics, Aquaman's longest publishing streak was in "Adventure Comics" from 1946 through 1961, as a backup character to the book's star, Superboy.

At the show's end, Aquaman mentions being his earliest memories being a lighthouse at the shores of Mercy Reef, a mix of pre- and post-Crisis versions of his origin story. Pre-Crisis, Aquaman was born to an Atlantean woman and a human lighthouse keeper, the latter who largely raised him (his mother dying at a young age). Post-Crisis, Aquaman was left abandoned as an infant on Mercy Reef due to Atlantean superstition, and eventually raised by (IIRC) dolphins before being taken in by a lighthouse keeper.

Next week:
The obligatory Christmas episode, apparently. Which like all Christmas episodes will make for strange-feeling viewing come it being rerun in, say, April. ;-)

-B.

Silverstar
12-07-2008, 09:28 PM
Wow, this episode was bad. I'm sorry, but I couldn't even watch the entire thing it was so bad. Aquaman is just horrible, especially his voice. They turned the big bad ass of the sea into a [expletive deleted]. Sorry, but my intelligence is insulted by what they did to him.

Every superhero doesn't have to be a 'big bad ass' to be entertaining. Judging by the mentality of The Brave and the Bold, I don't think a bad-ass would really fly on a show like this. (I mean, look at how Batman's portrayed here.) If there were to be brooding bad-ass character on B&tB, he'd have to learn a "valuable lesson" and change his ways before episode's end.

FTR, I enjoyed this version of Arthur more than JL/U's pompous cranky-pants King of the Sea.

Neo Ultra Mike
12-08-2008, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Brainatra
Next week:
The obligatory Christmas episode, apparently. Which like all Christmas episodes will make for strange-feeling viewing come it being rerun in, say, April. ;-)

Uh, most shows actually don't replay they're holiday episodes when it's not the holiday season. Unless it actually fits within the series continuity to show it or it's in a spot that's not specifically garnering for ratings they really only show holiday eps around the holidays thus if you miss it next week and the next couple of weeks after you probably may not catch it on TV until the Holiday season of 2009.

One of the biggest critques I've been giving this show is for it's over the top, far too etched into the plot lessons. Batman teams up with Blue Beetle and the kid goes from being underconfident to over confident. Batman helps Plastic Man realize that stealing is wrong and you need to learn to be a true friend. So yeah I have to admitt going into this not wanting to really see what kind of moral they were going to attach to Aquaman. In truth the Aquaman of JLU did sort of need to learn a "stop being such a jerk" lesson in earlier seasons so I was wondering if they'd go that way here. Instead they actually made his character far more interesting: Yeah he's bolsterous and proud and obviously in denial about the true nature of his brother (at first) but it's not done in the typical cliche way. The bolsterous issue isn't really changed by the ending and though Aquaman does realize that Bats was right about Orhm/Ocean Master's true intentions he actually handles it his own which leads to a pretty good ending of Batman admitting Aquaman knows what he's doing which worked out well. There were also some pretty nice moments in this one: Batman escaping Faust with the help of the Atom (you know that it was some hero helping out Bats but it being the Atom was pretty surprising actually) Batman's comment on Fluke the dolphin being annoying, Batman punching out a shark (I don't care how unrealistic that is, it just came across to me as cool) and even Aqua Man chucking waterballs at sea critters and at the machine near the end (Thinking about it the last time waterballs were even used was in Spongebob with Mermaid Man, the SB Aqua Man ripoff. I guess such a ridicolous idea needed a somewhat ridicolous idea in it to reacquint it). Black Manta and his gruff Kevin Michael Richardson voice was a pretty cliched villian but Orhm's jealous angle even towards the end was handled well making this a quality ep. Probably the best of the series so far.

A.J
12-08-2008, 01:25 AM
Ok...this is the silliest episode of the series so far...I dont really like it...Aquaman is just too shiny here in mi opinion...Batman punching a shark is extreme too...Loved the first 2 episodes but this one I dont...next! :sweat:

90'sCartoonMan
12-08-2008, 01:29 AM
Probably my favorite beginning scene so far. I was wondering if Zatanna or Dr. Fate or whoever was helping Batman, and it turned out to be the Atom, a science-based hero rather than a magic based one.

Also best use of villains, working both Black Manta and Ocean Master into the plot. Although I prefer the DCAU and the more gruff version of Aquaman, I did like this one. I think one of the strengths of this show is they managed to make an intelligent and experienced Batman who isn't too lonerish that plays off well with the guest-stars, which makes them even more interesting.


Anyway, the thing this reminded me of was I remember reading a little profile of Aquaman in an old JLA issue that refferred to him as being "broad and bombastic", which is pretty much the only way to describe this version of Aquaman. Of course, I look back for it now and all I find is profiles that say "regal, quiet and serious as the tides", so now I wonder where I read that.

I think that's from the JLA: Secret Files and Origins from 1998 or so. I remember reading that as well.

Jerry Mouse
12-08-2008, 01:59 AM
I like that Aquaman can do a Rasengan technique like Naruto.

Mentioning Aquaman and Naruto in the same sentence amounts to blasphemy in my opinion. The only things that they have in common is blonde hair and orange clothes for crying out loud!

Ed Liu
12-08-2008, 10:48 AM
So, summary of the reactions to this episode:

"This is the silliest episode of Brave and the Bold so far..."

A) I loved it!
B) I hated it!

I expect this will be the reaction to most episodes of this show, and the sooner the folks in the second category just stop watching and/or complaining about it, the better.

Put me in the first group. John DiMaggio doing Aquaman as Conan without the gigantic melancholies was an absolute hoot, and now I know what the producers meant when they said they thought Aquaman was going to be the breakout character.

-- Ed

Mouse_Pad
12-08-2008, 01:14 PM
Another fantastic episode. Happy, jolly Aquaman is almost a characiture of his Superfriends persona, but it works so well.

Doz Hewson
12-08-2008, 01:46 PM
"Where Batman goes, adventure follows." Sorry, Aqs, but you've got it half right: "Where Batman goes, new perspectives follow." Good episode.

Is it just me, but did anyone notice, when viewing the right side of The Atom's face just before the opening title sequence, a wonky mask/face demarcation line? Just asking.

Yojimbo
12-08-2008, 06:24 PM
"The most obnoxious dolphin..." Batman's humor is starting to grow on me.

It was nice to have little things in this episode/series, cameos by Queen Atlanna (when Aquaman was crowned) and Queen Mera as well as references to Mercy Reef and Iron Heights (Batman said that's where he was taking Black Manta to at the end). FYI, Iron Heights is a prison facility near Keystone City, and thus a mainstay for the Flash's villains. It makes me wonder if that was the prison that Grodd was jailed at last episode.


Question to anyone who may know: in the opening sequence, I understand how the Atom's presence could explain Batman escaping his bonds, but how did Atom help Batman with the levitation stuff? Is that an aspect of his powers I didn't know about?

Silverstar hit it home. Even though he was at a subatomic size, Atom's Bio Belt allows him to have strength at any size.

Rick Jones
12-08-2008, 07:47 PM
Every superhero doesn't have to be a 'big bad ass' to be entertaining. Judging by the mentality of The Brave and the Bold, I don't think a bad-ass would really fly on a show like this. (I mean, look at how Batman's portrayed here.) If there were to be brooding bad-ass character on B&tB, he'd have to learn a "valuable lesson" and change his ways before episode's end.

FTR, I enjoyed this version of Arthur more than JL/U's pompous cranky-pants King of the Sea.
Can't wait to see how Guy Gardner is handled

I can't imagine him learning much by the episodes end (or he probably wouldn't admit it).

Anthonynotes
12-08-2008, 08:21 PM
Uh, most shows actually don't replay they're holiday episodes when it's not the holiday season. Unless it actually fits within the series continuity to show it or it's in a spot that's not specifically garnering for ratings they really only show holiday eps around the holidays thus if you miss it next week and the next couple of weeks after you probably may not catch it on TV until the Holiday season of 2009.


Well, guess not *these* days anyway---seems like TV shows used to rerun their holiday episodes as part of their regular series rotations years ago (thus Christmas episodes in April, etc.)...

ROBOTRON
12-08-2008, 11:16 PM
:D - 3 1/2 stars

This is a fun toon. The Black Manta looked so frickin' cool. If this toon was a little less corny and a little more serious we'd really have something...never the less I enjoyed it.

Bunai
12-09-2008, 02:48 PM
I like that Aquaman can do a Rasengan technique like Naruto.


Mentioning Aquaman and Naruto in the same sentence amounts to blasphemy in my opinion. The only things that they have in common is blonde hair and orange clothes for crying out loud!
lol you walked right into that one :anime:

they are similar in a way.
at least with Aquaman's TBaTB personality.

Road to Gotham
12-10-2008, 02:19 AM
Aquaman's personality was so annoying to me, I was hoping Manta would kill him off.
I did like: Aquaman-Ocean Master Backstory, Manta, the sealife and underwater scenes, they were well drawn.

C-

AdamYJ
12-10-2008, 08:50 PM
lol you walked right into that one :anime:

they are similar in a way.
at least with Aquaman's TBaTB personality.

Really? The way I see it is that Naruto's kind of a spazz, while Aquaman's just a blustering braggart.

matthewscott614
12-10-2008, 09:00 PM
Finally got time to watch.
Great Episode.
The Black Manta design was very cool.
The colors they used for the under sea world are fabulous.
Also very action packed.
Having Aquaman back in orange is nice.
The intro with Felix & The Atom was good too.

Graymonk
12-11-2008, 06:41 AM
lol you walked right into that one :anime:

they are similar in a way.
at least with Aquaman's TBaTB personality.

Plus they're both blond, orphans and despised as children.

Also aren't they both somewhat demonic? Several of Aquaman's powers (telepathy, water control, etc.) stem from a deal his ancestor made with the Atlantean equivalent of the devil, and doesn't Naruto have some sort of connection to a demon fox? It's been a while since I've watched that show.

Silverstar
12-11-2008, 08:21 AM
Several of Aquaman's powers (telepathy, water control, etc.) stem from a deal his ancestor made with the Atlantean equivalent of the devil

I thought Aquaman's extraneous powers came from his father being a wizard.


and doesn't Naruto have some sort of connection to a demon fox?Yes, he has a 9-tailed fox demon sealed away inside his body.

The New Titans
12-13-2008, 04:52 AM
¿The Atom is Ray Palmer or Ryan Choi?

Dunno, but the costume's that of Ray Palmer. Some people are pointing him out as Ryan Choi, but he doesn't look Asian enough.

Anyway, this, sadly, was the weakest episode so far. While it is true that most Aquaman episodes have the same plot, they could have done something funnier on this show. What perks this episode up are the voices - Dee Bradley Baker is great as Felix Faust, and John DiMaggio makes the vain Aquaman seem charming and nice. Kevin Michael Richardson, however, rocks as Black Manta, and should reprise the role in something more serious in the future. Wallace Langham was suprisingly good as Ocean Master, and I loved the tentacles out of the back when he was fighting Aquaman.

Still, a tad disappointing - 2/5.

Bones Justice
12-13-2008, 12:47 PM
This was the first episode that I preferred the main story over the intro story. I'm not really a fan of Aquaman but he was interesting here. I did like how he worked with his brother even after he found out about the betrayal.

The opening battle with the Atom and the wizard was very bland. I did like the shot of the heroes punching out the wizard.

Black Manta seems like a cool villain. I really liked the voice. I don't really know anything about the character, though. Is he a robot or cyborg? If not, then he's gotta have a shrunken head to fit inside that little helmet.

HEATXZ
12-13-2008, 12:51 PM
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Black Manta seems like a cool villain. I really liked the voice. I don't really know anything about the character, though. Is he a robot or cyborg? If not, then he's gotta have a shrunken head to fit inside that little helmet.He's a guy wearing a suit,Here's a picture of him without his helmethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/09/Blackmantaunmasked.PNG

dtemplar
12-15-2008, 01:41 AM
My thoughts:

1. Did anybody noticed that The Atom never spoke at all?

2. I was thinking Batman would've been greeted by Tusky the Walrus.

3. The only thing Aquaman shouldn't have is a beard. I wanted him to look more like his days on Superfriends.

4. Finally, we've seen Black Manta done right.

Overall:
Good episode, ****. Sorry for the long delay.

The New Titans
12-15-2008, 02:42 AM
4. Finally, we've seen Black Manta done right.

If you're thinking of JLU, that was Devil Ray. Entirely different guy in a similar costume. And I actually thought that this Black Manta was excellent, especially Kevin Michael Richardson's deep voice.

dtemplar
12-16-2008, 11:22 PM
If you're thinking of JLU, that was Devil Ray. Entirely different guy in a similar costume. And I actually thought that this Black Manta was excellent, especially Kevin Michael Richardson's deep voice.

But Devil Ray was suppose to be Black Manta, but Warner couldn't get the rights to Aquaman despite the fact that Aquaman did appear on JL/JLU.

lukecage
12-17-2008, 02:42 AM
there won't be another episode until next year.

Graymonk
12-18-2008, 06:16 AM
I thought Aquaman's extraneous powers came from his father being a wizard.



The aforementioned deal was part of the reason his father was such a powerful wizard. The magic from the Atlanten Devil (or dark gods or whatever you want to call it) became tied to Aquaman's family and manifests itself as various powers like a talent for magic, water control or telepathy.

sdp
03-13-2009, 12:22 AM
I actually like the character of Aquaman, I'm not sure why. I didn't like him too much in JL/JLU though I remember liking him more in STAS. After hearing about how awesome this Aquaman was I was happy and I was disappointed. I didn't like the pro-logue with Atom either. I liked seeing black manta and Aquamans brother was ok nothing special. But yeah didn't like Aquamanj all that much.

Gravitea
05-07-2010, 12:18 PM
I love this version of Aquaman, and it's a nice foil to Batman as well. Love the fact that Aquaman believed his brother had changed, and was more than willing to give him a chance. When he and Orm had to work together to save Atlantis, it was also quite charming.

One moment that I really liked was when Orm was jail and Batman believed that Aquaman still didn't learn. But, he was proven wrong as Aquaman decided to punish him by reading his journal.