Is There Any Point in Continuing Shrek?

[Spideyzilla]

I think this franchise is a zombie, myself. Shrek The Third... you know they're desperate when Shrek starts making wisecracks. Should it keep going? I heard there will be 3 more films, at least. What do you think?

[Radical Raven]

Ugh. I thought the first Shrek was magnificent, the second one was passable (but not nearly as good), and I have'nt seen the third yet (though the reviews...are not promising:shrug: .)

[Silverstar]

If you're asking me, I'd say there was no point in making Shrek 2. But if you're asking Dreamworks, they still want to make money off of the Shrek franchise, and that's reason enough in Hollywood.

[Antiyonder]

They're continuing it to make money, but if you want them to discontinue, feel free to give them $999, 999, 999, 999 a year and I'm sure they'll be happy to do as you ask.

[HomeMoviesFan]

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[Dr.Pepper]

Dreamworks wants $$$, that's the point.

[Taco Wiz]

I predict that the fourth film wont be very successful. America probably learned a lesson after Shrek the Third.

[AdamYJ]

There's no real point that I see. Or, at least, no real point to seeing Shrek 4 in theaters. I thought the first and second ones were good. Didn't care for the third one. The only thing that was really funny in the third one for me was how they were making fun of the famous fairy tales princesses. That's about it.

[chdr]

There is much money to be made.

In other words, no.

[Zechs]

Only to make more money aside from that no. It should have stopped at 2 or at least have 3 be the prequel and ended it form there. I have no faith in American animation for the past 20 years its been all the about the money. I'd do better watching paint dry at this point.

[Light Lucario]

Only to make more money aside from that no. It should have stopped at 2 or at least have 3 be the prequel and ended it form there. I have no faith in American animation for the past 20 years its been all the about the money. I'd do better watching paint dry at this point.

I was under the impression that all forms of entertainment are there in order to gain money. Of course, there are some that are just there for money and others that put on a well written film and get money as a reward for that honest hard work.

Anyway, I saw the first Shrek film on TBS once. That was the only time I'm ever going to see the movie. It wasn't horrible by any means, but it really wasn't that good. Certainly not good enough for the amount of hype it gets or for a boat load of sequels. I never saw Shrek 2 or 3 and since I wasn't impressed with the first ones, I'm not planning on to. Besides, Shrek 3 sounded completely horrible. Of course, Dreamworks cares more about milking the franchise for all its worth and then some than putting out quality films.

[Pomegranate]

Only to make more money aside from that no. It should have stopped at 2 or at least have 3 be the prequel and ended it form there. I have no faith in American animation for the past 20 years its been all the about the money. I'd do better watching paint dry at this point.

Is it just me or is being an otaku who hates all sorts of American children's/family-geared non-action cartoons starting to become a trend on these very forums?:shrug:

Anyways, there's no point in continuing the Shrek franchise, aside from generating lots of revenue. I wish DreamWorks Animation would come up with more original and innovative concepts that can be enjoyed in the same way as a Pixar film, but the Shrek films are kinda useful for weeding out any stupid-looking movies that appeals to youths and their families at the box office, so I think Shrek should still stay in the cinemas for a while.

[Blackstar]

Is it just me or is being an otaku who hates all sorts of American children's/family-geared non-action cartoons starting to become a trend on these very forums?:shrug:

Not caring for the Shrek sequels doesn't automatically make one a family-oriented non-action USAnimation hating otaku. That logic is somewhat flawed.

[Pomegranate]

Not caring for the Shrek sequels doesn't automatically make one a family-oriented non-action USAnimation hating otaku. That logic is somewhat flawed.

Never said that. I was responding to someone(Zechs) who said she herself had no faith in USAnimation as a whole, not just the Shrek movies, for the past 20 years.

[Blackstar]

Never said that. I was responding to someone(Zechs) who said she herself had no faith in USAnimation as a whole, not just the Shrek movies, for the past 20 years.

Oh, all-righty, then. I must have missed that post.

[Dee]

I honestly really enjoyed the first two films, but I think that should have been it for the franchise.

The plots can only be stretched so far, but I don't think they'd make too much of a limit.

[TheVileOne]

Even the holiday special was really pushing it.

The series has become redundant. It's become the very thing it parodied. It has none of the charm or talent of the original. The Academy Award nominated screenwriters are gone. The original director is gone.

[Spideyzilla]

Even the holiday special was really pushing it.

The series has become redundant. It's become the very thing it parodied. It has none of the charm or talent of the original. The Academy Award nominated screenwriters are gone. The original director is gone.

Very, very well said. Shrek is no longer Shrek.

[Lavenderpaw]

What are you all talking about?We can't live without Shrek the 4th.It is essential to our very beings.


And if you believe that, you're either a nutbar or your life really does depend on the continuation of this movie.

[creativerealms]

No but then I did not even like the first one.

[Baltofan]

Bring on the fourth.

[tb4000]

I was going to say exactly what VileOne said....the first movie was a blatant, yet indirect jab at Disney and all of the wholesome, attempting to be hip yet still saccharine stuff they had put out over the years, as well as their Microsoft-like lordship over the entertainment industry. But now Shrek itself has become a whore in the exact same manner, which is pretty sad. Dreamworks Animation was supposed to be an upstart that took bigger risks, yet they have pretty much lost their way.

[Chary Moota]

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Exactly. Everything Dreamworks does these days is for money. It's pretty sad. They've let their egos get too inflated.

[PC!]

Exactly. Everything Dreamworks does these days is for money. It's pretty sad. They've let their egos get too inflated.

That's what every company does things for. :p Dreamworks is no different than Pixar or any other animation company. They're all in it for the moneys. The satisfaction of putting out a high quality movie is a secondary concern.

[Spideyzilla]

That's what every company does things for. :p Dreamworks is no different than Pixar or any other animation company. They're all in it for the moneys. The satisfaction of putting out a high quality movie is a secondary concern.

There is a difference. Pixar is always (except for Cars) good.

[Bloody Marquis]

There is a difference. Pixar is always (except for Cars) good.
And they resist doing sequels unless they have a good follow-up story.

[RonDrakenfan17]

Good lord I've been thinking this since the third film. 2 and 1 were great but man I hated the third one. I'm thinking of skipping the 4th, I'm sure the kiddies will see it though causing more money than will have a 5th :(

[Monterey Jack]

While I'm apparently in the minority of having liked Shrek The Third just fine (my review of the DVD: http://www.dvdinmypants.com/reviews/O-V/shrek_the_third.php), it pretty much wrapped up the series as a nicely-rounded trilogy, with the Shrek The Halls TV special as a charming epilogue. I'll reserve judgement on Shrek Goes Fourth until I can see a trailer, but Dreamworks is really pushing the series to the limit here.

[jackie0109]

Plot-wise, there's no point in having the fourth installment. The third movie is just so dull.

[Blackstar]

It's all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. It's always been about the money. Money was the only reason why we got a Shrek 2. The director basically admitted that the original Shrek was not intended to have a sequel and that money was his main (if not only) motivation for making a sequel to the film.

[PC!]

And they resist doing sequels unless they have a good follow-up story.

Which is exactly what they're doing for Cars, the widely-regarded least-liked Pixar movie.

Why? Probably because the toys are selling like crazy.

[GWOtaku]

There's nothing else to do with it. Shrek found love, got accepted by his lady's parents, and now has a family of his own. It's happily ever after. What's next? More Shrek = a simple attempt at making money, and that's all.

Shrek 3 was the low point. It wasn't as funny as the first two. The subplot involving the fantasy villains was weak and lamely resolved--a speech saves the day! Hooray! Or...not. It's been played out to its logical end. Shrek 4 has 80% odds of being just an empty vehicle for fairly straightforward fairy tale parody. And frankly, that's just old news now, and there's no way it beats the first two in that regard. The original was a fresh parody of the standard fairy tale romance and "save the princess" quest, and the second turned the whole "meet prince charming, find true love" angle on its head. Unless they can find some new, broad theme to make fun of, it'll just be a lot of one-shot jokes tying a loose plot together.

[Radical Raven]

I heard that the 4th one is going to be an origin story for Shrek.

[AhmedtheHead]

Exactly. Everything Dreamworks does these days is for money. It's pretty sad. They've let their egos get too inflated.

Quite correct. For Pete's sake, Katzenberg (sp?) wants 5 sequels for Kung Fu Panda! Does he really care how far the story can go! NO! As long as the money comes rolling in, he'll treat both KFP and Shrek like how LionsGate treats the Saw franchise. (The same goes for Disney and the High School Musical franchise. Please, stop it.)

It's all about the box-office revenue. The first two Shreks were great, but the third one, while still entertaining, had a visible case of "running out of steam". The Christmas special was an improvement, though.

Let's just hope the fourth one improves as well, otherwise they need to:

1. Get the original director and writers back.

or

2. End the franchise and move on.

[Prof. Mecavio]

I heard that the 4th one is going to be an origin story for Shrek.

This makes me remember the original "Shrek" book in which the main character's parents kick him out right after he's born, because he was so ugly (not that they'd win any beauty pageants, though). Of course, the original Shrek was, if I remember correctly, more malicious than his counterpart in the movies, who only wanted to be left alone.

[Taco Wiz]

I was going to say exactly what VileOne said....the first movie was a blatant, yet indirect jab at Disney and all of the wholesome, attempting to be hip yet still saccharine stuff they had put out over the years, as well as their Microsoft-like lordship over the entertainment industry. But now Shrek itself has become a whore in the exact same manner, which is pretty sad. Dreamworks Animation was supposed to be an upstart that took bigger risks, yet they have pretty much lost their way.
I couldn't agree more. Infact, I don't think Dreamworks Animation has ever made a good movie other than Shrek.

[HellCat]

Another voice for 'Greedy money grubbing and they've become the very bloated media franchise they were supposedly satirising'.

[Juu-kuchi]

There is a point in continuing it.

If they don't Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz, and Antonio Banderas will be out of a job. Shrek is essentially where they get their welfare checks from.

[Taco Wiz]

They're rich now. They don't need any more movies to make ends meat.

[The Nameless]

They're rich now. They don't need any more movies to make ends meat.

Pork butts and taters!

All joking aside, the whole point in continuing Shrek would be so DWA gets more money. I hope they don't whore Madagascar, because I liked that film and hope they didn't just botch the second because they thought "eh, those kids are stupid, they'll convince their parents to let 'em watch anything. And more stupid kids means more money!".

[HellCat]

In situations like this, I'm always reminded of a scene from the Spongebob movie (irony not missed):
Mr Krabs: "Hello...I like MONEY!"
Reporter: "Mr Krabs, why did you open a second Krusty Krab?"
Mr Krabs: "For MONEY!"

[Juu-kuchi]

They're rich now. They don't need any more movies to make ends meat. I was being facetious.

But also seriously, what other movies do you even see those people in. I mean... yeah sure, Love Guru for Myers and Meet Dave for Murphy. But other than that... nothing else. NOTHING. At all it seems.

[Mandi-chan]

As much as I loved the first two films (thought Shrek 2 was even better than the original), I have to say I was pretty disappointed with "3" and don't think "4" will be that good either.

I would; however, LOVE to see the Puss in Boots movie if they go through with it.

[Hordesman]

I think it's time they look into different focus points in the Shrek world. The Puss DTV is one example, wouldn't mind a Princess Squad movie... but I think Shrek's arc should be finished. Focus on the kids, focus on other characters in the hybrid world of Medieval Modern, but please- a movie about Shrek having a midlife crisis is unnecessary.

[Old Guy]

You guys over-react too much. The first two Shrek movies were great. The third one sucked, that's true. However, Shrek the Halls was decent. So...who knows? Wait till the fourth one is released and then decide if the franchise is officially dead.

[Marvin Tikvah]

All joking aside, the whole point in continuing Shrek would be so DWA gets more money. I hope they don't whore Madagascar, because I liked that film and hope they didn't just botch the second because they thought "eh, those kids are stupid, they'll convince their parents to let 'em watch anything. And more stupid kids means more money!".

Honestly, I couldn't get into Madagascar at all, it felt to me like Shrek with talking zoo animals.

I'm also in the camp that Dreamworks is banking completely on sequels to these movies whose main draw is washed-up actors doing voicework, judging by the commercials and promotions they run. Sure, Pixar gets some pretty big names in their films, but they are not the focus of the movies. Plus, their films have a little more substance than Dreamworks films, considering the scripts don't try to be hip and edgy and include a consistent conflict that always wraps up somehow.

[chdr]

Madagascar made me hate "I Like To Move It Move It" forever.