Pick The Best 'Batman: The Animated Series' Episode - Poll #5

[James Harvey]

The fifth of 12 polls has begun! Below are the voting choices for the fourth set of 10 episodes. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to pick your favorite episode out of the ten listed below. The results will be tallied on Sunday (likely around 2pm (ET)), and a new poll will open the following Monday. For more information on the poll, go <a href="http://wf.toonzone.net/btaspoll.htm">HERE</a>. Remember - the success of the poll depends on you! If the turn out for this fourth poll is low, then it will be shut down. The episode options are above! Stay tuned for updates on this thread, and feel free to discuss the poll here as well.

Poll #6 Begins Monday, March 11th!!

Synopsis info:

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Episode #041 - Tyger, Tyger

Original Airdate - October 30th, 1992.

Selina Kyle is kidnapped by genetic engineer Dr. Emile Dorian and becomes his latest experiment to provide his man-cat hybrid named Tygrus with a mate. Batman learns of this and comes to the island to rescue Selina. He is captured and forced into a deadly game of cat-and-flying mouse as Tygrus hunts Batman through the island's jungles.

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Episode #042 - Moon of the Wolf

Original Airdate - November 12th, 1992.

Batman investigates the appearance of a wolf creature in Gotham, not realizing that the monster happens to be one of Bruce Wayne's associates - Anthony Romulus, ex-Olympic champion and media spokesman.

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Episode #043 - Day of the Samurai

Original Airdate - February 23rd, 1993.

Kyodai Ken kidnaps the daughter of Yoru Sensei, the martial arts instructor who taught both Kyodai and Bruce. The Ninja's ransom for her is a scroll that teaches the location of the fabled Death Touch.

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Episode #044 - Heart of Steel: Part 2

Original Airdate - November 17th, 1992.

Batman, upon escaping from being turned into a duplicant himself by HARDAC, is summoned by Barbara Gordon. She wants Batman's help to discover what is going on with her Father. Upon arriving at HARDAC's location separately, both Batman and Barbara discover the truth behind the recent behaviour of the Commissioner and other city officials.

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Episode #045 - Terror in the Sky

Original Airdate - November 9th, 1992.

When a man-sized bat ransacks Gotham harbor, Batman suspects that Dr. Kirk Langstrom is up to his old tricks, taking the Man-Bat formula again. Batman isn't the only one. Kirk's wife, Francine, is so distrustful of her husband that she decides to leave him. After further investigation, Batman discovers that the Man-Bat is no longer Kirk, but someone else.

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Episode #046 - Almost Got 'Im

Original Airdate - November 11th, 1992.

While hiding out from the police, The Joker, The Penguin, Two-Face, Poison Ivy and Killer Croc gather at the criminals-only Stacked Deck Club to play cards and swap stories about their mutual nemesis. Each one has an 'Almost Got 'Im' story when it comes to trying to do in Batman.

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Episode #047 - Birds of a Feather

Original Airdate - February 8th, 1993.

Veronica Vreeland is looking for a way to create a splash with her next party and arrives at the idea of having a criminal in attendance -- especially if there's one whose manners would create a stir. Penguin fits the bill perfectly. In the process of convincing the Penguin to come to her party, Veronica finds she likes the corpulent little guy. For his part, the Penguin begins to fall in love with her.

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Episode #048 - What Is Reality?

Original Airdate - November 24th, 1992.

Seeking to prove once and for all that his is the superior mind, the Riddler lures Batman into a riddle-solving contest inside a computer game of virtual reality. In the course of solving the riddles and escaping the Riddler's traps, Batman learns that he is able to manipulate the virtual reality landscape much like the Riddler does.

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Episode #049 - I Am The Night

Original Airdate - November 10th, 1992.

On the anniversary of the death of Bruce's parents, Batman accompanies Leslie Thompkins to Crime Alley to place roses on the spot where they were gunned down. Meanwhile, Commissioner Gordon is on stakeout to arrest the Jazzman. Batman had promised to be there, but arrives late to find a gun battle going on. He helps defeat the gangsters and arrest the Jazzman, but at a high cost -- Gordon is severely wounded.

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Episode #050 - Off Balance

Original Airdate - November 21st, 1992.

While following Count Vertigo's trail, Batman encounters a Lady In Black and learns that she is Talia, daughter of the head of the Society of Shadows who was sent by her father to prevent the capture of a sonic drill that the Count stole. But after his identity is mistakenly revealed to Talia, Batman remains off-balance as to where her true loyalties lie.

[Failure]

Almost Got 'Im or I Am The Night?... Almost Got 'Im or I Am The Night?... hmm, I've narrowed it down, but I really wish I could see these two eps again. Still thinking...

[Apache Chief]

This was a tough one. I love Riddler eps., and I've always liked Off Balance. But really this comes down to Almost Got 'im, or I am the Night. Almost Got 'im is a classic, but I am the Night is the ultimate Batman episode, so I had to go with that.

[Bird Boy]

Almost Got 'Im got my vote...:)

-BB

[zmanjz]

I was torn between Day of the Samauri and I am the Night. Day of the Samauri is an interesting look into the past of Bruce Wayne, and a unique chance for Bruce Himself to be thanked for the actions of Batman. Something which happens all too rarely.

But in the end I am the night is one of the Ultimate episodes that not only re-defines what he does, but why he does it. His parents loss caused him to become batman, but without Batman, Bruce's friends like Comissioner Gordon would have died many times over.

In this way batman's actions change from the revenge of a son, to that of a great Hero of Justice.

[Karkull]

As much as I love Almost Got 'Im, I went with I Am the Night for one reason: I've alway's hated Batman playing Killer Croc as stupid in that episode.

"I threw a rock at 'em!"

:rolleyes:

[Sugar Daddy]

I'm gonna vote when the summaries are on here, thats when it is the easiest to vote.

[Salvor]

I Am the Night. No contest. Again, some of the best characterization Batman has ever been offered in the whole BTAS run, powerful story, great animation... it has everything a BTAS show could ever dream of.

[Borg4of3]

Yet again, a Riddler episode goes by without my vote :( . Sorry Riddler, but Almost Got Im was just too good to pass up! On that note, it really is too bad that Riddler didn't get a spotlight in Almost Got Im. I think I'd rather prefer one of his intricate tales to Ivy's 'exploding pumpkins' :D Anywho, not only was it overall funny, creative, and surprising; but it gave us a look at what the villains think of Bats, and an interesting notion of them all actually plotting together. Just plain great ep!

Notable mentions are I Am the Night for its powerful portrayal of both Bats and Gordon, Day of the Samurai because I love Kyodi Ken, and Birds of a Feather for being the funnest Penguin episode ever!

[Salvor]

This is gonna be a tough one...

[Ed Liu]

Howdy all,

Had to go with "Almost Got 'Im". In addition to featuring 4 of the top Batman villains, we got a great deception on Batman's part (and one of the coolest ways to reveal the secret), some great thematic unities ("There's more than one way to 'Get' someone" takes on a new meaning by the end of the episode), a huge heaping helping of Paul Dini humor, and the cops with lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of guns. I mean it -- we're talking a Matrix-y "We need guns. Lots of guns." number of guns at the end.

I liked "I Am the Night," but thought it was way too predictable and kind of hokey. It also completely fell down on its face by the end when Batman throws his shuriken into the Jazzman's gun barrel (yeah, yeah, I know, there's lots of plausibility problems in "Almost Got 'Im," too...). On the plus side, it did feature Seth Green in a pre-Buffy role (who I thought was Michael J. Fox).

-- Ed/Ace

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Almost Got 'Em was my vote.

[showiekape]

Almost Got 'Im is the best batman eps for this poll since it is the first time that almost all of the villains joined together. It has a humorous quality to it. It is not a typical Batman eps where only violence and tragedy are the main emotional themes in the story. It is quirky, yet it is still an adventure. :D :cool: :p

[Divv]

Easy one this week. I am the Night gets my vote. Almost Got 'Im was OK, but I really felt like it all went a bit too fast, there was not enough time to add any depth to the stories. Perhaps it would have been better as a 2 parter.

[Anubis C. Soundwave]

1. This is a day in the life of Batman, showing him in one of his lower moments. He wonders if he's truly making a difference.

2. A reference to the first Scarecrow ep, where Batman says "I am Vengeance. 'I am the Night', et cetera ."

3. The story didn't revolve around marquee Rogues(except for a brief cameo from the Penguin), but rather an ordinary criminal trying to take out the Commissioner.

4. Shades of another fave of mine, Over the Edge.

Drat you all. It had Heart of Steel pt. 2 and Off Balance on there, but I am the Night deserves its Oscar.

[jimi5150]

Almost Got 'im!! (C'mon...it was a BIG rock!)

[The Penguin]

The Joker: "Anybody else want to go?"
Killer Croc: "ME! There I was, holed up in this quarry when Batman came nosing around. He was getting closer. . . Closer. . ."
Poison Ivy: "And--?"
Killer Croc: "I threw a rock at him!"
THERE IS DEAD SILENCE.
Poison Ivy: So, Harvey, when became of the giant penny?
Killer Croc: It was a big rock. . .
Almost Got 'Im


Usually I just pick one quote from one person, but that exchange was just too good not to put up. I can easily say this is one of my favorite episodes. I like how this one focuses on the different villains and their stories. A fun episode. :D

[Dark Knight]

Originally posted by Karkull
As much as I love Almost Got 'Im, I went with I Am the Night for one reason: I've alway's hated Batman playing Killer Croc as stupid in that episode.

"I threw a rock at 'em!"

:rolleyes:

Thats the best part!!!

[Optimus81]

For me this is easily the hardest poll in the entire contest due to the amount of great episodes in this batch of ten. I loved "Almost Got 'Im" due to the great writing, and how every villain gets a shot at the spotlight, not to mentio the clever twists seen throughout the episode. I also liked "Off Balance," mainly due to the fact that it is a great lead-in to one of my favorite villains of the series, Ra's Al Ghoul (how can you top the suspense of that ending?). I also enjoyed "Tyger, Tyger," "Day of the Samurai," and "Heart of Steel: Part 2," but in the end, I had to go with "I am the Night," due to its great character development of Batman. It was a absolute perfect example of why Batman is no ordinary superhero, in that he is, after all, a human, with a pain he constantly carries with him. What an episode. Although voting at all in this one seemed unfair since you can't pick all of them, this episode seemed to be a touch above the rest in my opinion.

[jkoolpe]

I agree with everyone else...this is a tough one!

But for me, it has to be, "I Am the Night."

This episode absolutely blew me away when I first saw it. It really cemented in my mind that this series was truly meant for adults in every way...I even remember being practically brought to tears when Bats lays down the flowers on the "spot" and also sharing his outrage when the petty thug falls right on top of them...the expression on his face when he sees this is still etched in my mind.) And of course his trashing of the Batcave and that primal scream was mind-boggling, too!

Never had an animated show prior to this one evoked such emotions from me...indeed, few "live" shows have been able to accomplish this either for that matter.

Add to that the incredible score, the great animation, the slow-motion climax...one of the best 22 minutes ever shown on TV, animated or otherwise, IMHO!

Jon

[Joker85]

This has been the easiest one yet!! Hands down, Almost Got Im! that is my favorite BTAS episode of all time( Well, it's actually tied with Heart of Ice) :)

[Knight2]

Almost Got'Im has always been my favourite ep, so I had to vote for it. I just like how it shows Batman out-smarting a variety of the shows best villains. Also I thought that was a smooth move at the end of the ep with Selina losing Batman.

[JChampion]

Hands down 'Almost got 'em'........

[Borg4of3]

I just wanted to add another 2 cents on Almost Got Im!
There are just too many good lines in this episode. Everyone's theories on Batman, Two Face reacting to Ivy's appearance, "I threw a rock at him :p ", Two Face explaining where the big penny went, everyone's reaction to the "Aviary of DOOM", Harley's ultimatum, and, of course, Selina's scene-closing line.
You know, when I first watched the series as the ignorant-of-comic-continuity kid, I never thought of Selina as a badgal until this ep, which I find kind of wierd now. Oh well.

[Harley Fan]

It was a tough decison, but "Almost Got 'Im" gets my vote. I especially liked the Joker's constant taunting of the other villains in the beginning of the episode, as well as the rare encounter of Catwoman vs. Harley Quinn. :D

Joker:"Well, I would say ladies first, but since there are'nt any here..."

[peterparker05]

I had to vote for Almost Got 'Im. It's one of my favorite eps.

Catwoman foiling the Joker's plot.

Killer Croc's "Rock Lines"

Poison Ivy's elaborate trap.

Killer Croc turning out to be Batman in disguise.

Oh there's just too much to mention.

[Sugar Daddy]

I voted for Day of the Samurai, because it is the only one I remember. O, well.

[Sparvid]

Come oooooooon, people. Almost got 'im was good, but it's not even close to I am the night! That's one episode I wouldn't mind to see among the top five of all of them.

[Mattashell]

Why do you all like Almost Got 'Im. I hate that one. It feels like a clip show. I don't even think of that as a real episode. Just a bunch of flashbacks to clips from stories that were never made. Don't vote for it.

Off Balance has my vote. Not only do we meet Ra's Al Gould, but Vertigo is *@#$ awsome.

[Phantom Cruiser]

"I Am The Night"... without a doubt...

[Sandoz]

"Almost Got 'Im."

What can I say? It was a classic. :D

[MAXIMUS]

Alomost Got'Im all the way man! this ep was great...it had everybody in it and great stories

[Barb Gordon]

I found "Almost Got 'Im" quite amusing, and would be my choice, if not for "I Am The Night". That ep was so interesting, so different, especially with Gordon actually getting hurt and stuff, and it being a darker ep, it just grabs my vote.

Barb^-^

[Clark J. Kent]

Really quick observation...

The only reason Almost Got 'Im is winning is because people just like episodes with a lot of villains, and not necessarily the most powerful, dramatic episodes.

I Am The Night just may be the best episode of the entire series.

[Joker_Junior]

I second that. I am the Night is by far the best episode of Batman Animated because it defines Batman/Bruce Wayne so incredibly well. Incredibly powerful, compelling stuff, and if this episode loses to Almost Got 'Im, then it just goes to show how much more people care about the villains than Batman himself

[Sugar Daddy]

Maybe someday I will vote for a winner.

[Borg4of3]

Aw come on - don't discount how we all loved our Almost Got 'Im with a simple and insulting: We like eps with lots of villains. :rolleyes:

I think we have quite the unusual poll this time around! On one hand, we have I Am the Night, a powerful dramatic and character-driven episode where Batman realizes that his task truly is a fool's errand. Good people are hurt, Gordon is targeted for murder, Batman fails in one of his missions, and people walk over a tribute to Batman's parents. The lines in this ep were always strong, from Batman's self-inflection and the poignant attacks by Bullock (making him, at that time, my very absolute least fave character) to Gordon's waking tribute to the Bat.

On the other hand, we have Almost Got 'Im, which is the complete opposite of I Am the Night! Here is a laugh-out-loud parody of Batman in general, making fun of the suped up set-pieces and plans of Batman's top rogue gallery, as well as showing us the super-hero invincibility and ingenuity that is the Bat. Cute scenes all around make this one a classic!

From there, its just viewer preference. Me, I'm the type of guy who loves Joker's Millions, The Man Who Killed Batman, Harley's Holiday, and other unusual but fun episodes! Usually, if one of them was up against I Am the Night, I wouldn't give it a second thought and go with the drama. But Almost Got 'Im? IMO, I just loved and enjoyed it so much more!

[Failure]

I finally decided to go with I Am The Night. Both IATN and AGI are great eps, but from what I remember (and my memory is a bit hazy) IATN was a lot more darker and dramatic than AGI, and I tend to like the darker/dramatic eps.

[ShadowWolf]

This is the easiest vote for me so far. My favorite episode of B:TAS happens to be "I am the night"
So it really was not hard to choose this time around.
I will be very sad if that great episode does not make it past the first round.

[Mister Intensity]

This is one of the easier choices. Although Almost Got 'Em has its merits, I Am the Night is probably the best episode ever. If there was one episode I would show to someone that never seen B:TAS, I Am the Night would be the one.

Almost every major character on the show had his/her moment. From a pre-Batgirl Barbara mourning her father to Bullock confronting Batman to Dick vowing to use everything he learned to stop Gordon's would be assassin (besides, the scene with Dick starting his cycle was just cool) to Gordon's confession of his feelings to Batman to the Dark Knight's realization that he was about to lose his father figure, this episode had everything.

It was a strong character piece that represented B:TAS at its best. It may have been Bruce's story but everyone had his/her moment to shine.

Mister Intensity

[Ed Liu]

Howdy all,

You know, I would feel really bad for almost all the other choices on this poll if it weren't for the fact that most of them, um, sucked IMO (Heart of Steel Pt. 2 being a notable exception =8^). I did want to bring up the ending of "Day of the Samurai," though, which was a big kick in the pants to me at the time:


when the lava flow separates Batman and Kyodai Ken, and Bats throws a rope to him. The way Kyodai looks at the rope, gets this sad, melancholy look on his face, kicks away the rope, and then bows to Batman as the lava takes him.


It took a 2-dimensional character and suddenly gave him depth, IMO. The fact that Bruce is willing to speak Japanese to his sensei (even if it's a badly accented "Domo arigato") gave the ep brownie points to me, too.

BTW, Clark J., I can't speak for others, but the number of villians in "Almost Got 'Im" had little to do with my picking it up over "I Am the Night." It boils down to 2 reasons, working in conjunction with each other:

1. "I Am the Night" is Dark & Dramatic, but we get LOTS of Dark & Dramatic

I think people are right in saying that "I Am the Night" is one of the best darker and dramatic episodes of BTAS, but we have LOTS of darker and dramatic episodes throughout the series ("Heart of Ice," "On Leather Wings," "Appointment in Crime Alley," "Robin's Reckoning," or any of the Scarecrow episodes), some of which I consider better episodes than even "I Am the Night" (and which got my votes in prior polls).

2. "Almost Got 'Im" is just a heck of a lot of fun.

Not dark, not grim-n-gritty, not dramatic or histrionic -- it was FUN. It managed a delicate balance between seriousness to the source material (that electrocution scene with the Joker was pretty creepy, IMO) and the inherent humor and, frankly, silliness in the Batman universe without ever tilting too far in either direction. I think the only other story to pull this off as well was "Mad Love".

When you get down to it, almost the entire exercise is pretty ridiculous -- a man dressed like Dracula gets into fights with a freakshow circus of bad guys. Why not poke a little fun at it, and orient an entire episode around the oversized cliches and near misses that form most of comic book storytelling? The fact that "Almost Got 'Im" managed to do so without being condescending, insulting, campy, or just really really stupid gives it the edge, IMO.

-- Ed/Ace

[Blight]

I had to vote for "I am the Night". That has to be one of the most powerfull Batman episodes ever. It was really startling and freaky the way Batman started destroying the whole cave in his anger. I almost voted for "Almost Got 'Im", but then I started remembering just what "I am the Night" was like, and it immediately changed my mind completely.

See ya!
Blight

[Theking]

That had to get my vote. Very tought choice but I do like the darker ep. and that one is my fav. dark ep.

Thanks for your time
TheKing

[The Penguin]

Well I'd say "Moon of the Wolf" is getting what it deserves. :rolleyes:

[Clark J. Kent]

I am not saying that "Almost Got 'Im" was a bad episode. I loved the plot twist, and the scene when they find out "Killer Croc's secret" was just great. Even better was the final line of the episode.

I'm just saying that this episode hardly defined Batman; "I Am the Night" most certainly did. It had great animation, great plot, great dialogue. I loved it.

[dark knight acolyte]

After long and hard considertion, mind-draining thought, and unhealthy levels of debate.....I chose.....

Oh wait, it only took me about five seconds.

I saw I am the Night, and I voted for I am the Night. Not only is it one of my top five best episodes in all cartoons of all time (that I can think of, of course....there have been a few) but also it just may be my favorite Batman episode of all time.

Excellent characterization. Batman forced to think about what he does....and boy does he. The animated series hits this to a tee.

Compelling dialogue. Up there with Two-Face pt. 1, probably beating it for best in the series.

Moving emotions, that weren't just negative or just positive. This episode showed a great and realistic shift in mood as its contents unfolded.

And finally, just a great story. While Almost Got 'Im is a great story, I just feel I am the Night has more to offer, aside from the fact that its neat to see the interaction of many of the villians. Both were good stories in their own right, and good episodes......but I am the Night gets my nod.

[dark knight acolyte]

And oh yes, the interactions beteen Bats and Thompkins and Bats and Gordon were all very moving in I am the Ngiht

[Theking]

Originally posted by dark knight acolyte
And oh yes, the interactions beteen Bats and Thompkins and Bats and Gordon were all very moving in I am the Ngiht

Good point, I liked that about the ep also.

TheKing

[Goop]

I voted for Moon of the Wolf for many reasons. One reason is I thought it was an awesome story. Another reason is I've loved werewolves since I was about 7 or 8. The main reason is I don't think I ever saw Batman get beat up as bad as Tony did to him at the conscruction site. I like Almost Got' Im because it's funny and What is Reality ,but I love Moon of the Wolf.

[Knight2]

Originally posted by Joker_Junior
I second that. I am the Night is by far the best episode of Batman Animated because it defines Batman/Bruce Wayne so incredibly well. Incredibly powerful, compelling stuff, and if this episode loses to Almost Got 'Im, then it just goes to show how much more people care about the villains than Batman himself
what? :confused:
The whole ep is about Batman outsmarting the villains.
The whole ep proved why Batman is so COOL.
Hey--and it's also a great example of Batman's use of disguise.

[Anarky]

"Almost Got 'Im" rawked!!!
Loved the ORIGINAL short stories, especially the Letterman-esque performance of the Joker of Late Night Gotham Live.

This episode really dives into the Joker's love of self. He no doubt called together an impromptu meeting at the Stacked Deck. Joker knew the Batman would become the topic of discussion. Penguin takes the bait and it's on after that. Ego at stake, each proclaims his/her's best efforts at snuffing the Bat.

Joker merely laughs. And then he lays it on the table. He even went through the trouble of bringing along a tv-vcr set.

He'd won: he had the best scheme AND he swindled the field.

This episode inspired a wonderful WB lim ed cel. I had to have it.
Anyone else who's seen it can attest to its beauty.

[peterparker05]

Originally posted by Mattashell
Why do you all like Almost Got 'Im. I hate that one. It feels like a clip show. I don't even think of that as a real episode. Just a bunch of flashbacks to clips from stories that were never made. Don't vote for it.

Off Balance has my vote. Not only do we meet Ra's Al Gould, but Vertigo is *@#$ awsome.

I thought that Talia and Vertigo appeared in this episode, but Ra's Al Ghul didn't appear until the Demon's Quest.

[Mattashell]

It is certainly possible I'm mistaken, I haven't seen the ep since the series first ran, however it is still my choice from this list. I will add that I don't believe I've seen I am the Night.

[Ruffian]

Ra's Al Ghul appeared in Off Balance. He... would this count as a spoiler?? :rolleyes:

He showed up at the very end when Talia was reporting the "success" of her mission. The last thing you see in that episode is Ra's Al Ghul.

[DisneyBoy]

Just to get your opinions...didn't you guys think that the animation in "Almost" wasn't very good? I found it relatively sub-par....

[Randy H]

Yeah. And the animation in Almost Got 'Im was why I voted for I Am the Night. Almost's writing was great, but the animation quality wasn't.

Later,
Randy H

[Harley Fan]

Originally posted by Joker_Junior
I second that. I am the Night is by far the best episode of Batman Animated because it defines Batman/Bruce Wayne so incredibly well. Incredibly powerful, compelling stuff, and if this episode loses to Almost Got 'Im, then it just goes to show how much more people care about the villains than Batman himself


Since when does everyone have to root for Batman? Sure, he is an interesting character and all, but the villains are equally unique and entertaining.

[BLACKHEART]

Something I voted for is winning, wow cool

[sun]

I chose this because of the story telling aspect. It adds a lot of depth to Bruce, and gives us insite into him. I believe the success of the entire series, were the outstanding stories and how they were told. That is why this one got my vote. " Almost Got em," sure is interesting, but more of a montage with a little bit about all the major villians.. "The Trial" offers a more interesting setting, and in some ways, keeps my attention better....I think that was one of the better later efforts... Stuart

[The Game]

Honestly I'm surprised...

That Almost Got 'Im dominated the poll. I thought I Am the Night would have put up more of a fight.

-The Game

[Toddman]

Originally posted by DisneyBoy
Just to get your opinions...didn't you guys think that the animation in "Almost" wasn't very good? I found it relatively sub-par....

I disagree. I think that the animation for "Almost Got'Im" is very good. Perhaps just one notch below the best the series ever offered.

I think that the animation is much better than other popular episodes on some of the previous polls, like "Perchance to Dream" and "Appointment in Crime Alley." And I find that very curious, because I've seen Dong Yang (which provided the animation for "Perchance" and "Appointment") listed as the animation house for "Got 'Im."

However, I think that the style for "Got 'Im" is very similar to the quality of Spectrum. Anyone else have an idea/opinion on that?

By the way, I do enjoy animation of Sunrise Studio which animated "I Am the Night." The characeters look very heavy and bulky (but not unattractive) and seem to carry a lot of visible emotion.

Toddman

[Toddman]

One other thing,

Does anyone know the reason why Poison Ivy is wearing what is basically just a one-piece swimsuit in her flashback sequence in "Almost Got 'Im" instead of her regular costume?

I could understand it if the show was a "clip" episode and the explanation was found in a different episode, but that is all new footage.

Anybody know?

Toddman

[Harley Fan]

Maybe she decided to slip into something more comfortable for Halloween. :D

[The Game]

Originally posted by Toddman
One other thing,

Does anyone know the reason why Poison Ivy is wearing what is basically just a one-piece swimsuit in her flashback sequence in "Almost Got 'Im" instead of her regular costume?

I could understand it if the show was a "clip" episode and the explanation was found in a different episode, but that is all new footage.

Anybody know?

Toddman

If I had to guess, they were just trying out something new (notice her outfit in the flashback is somewhat similar to her TNBA outfit), and didn't want to ruin a whole new episode if it stunk.

-The Game

[Toddman]

Originally posted by thegame8866


If I had to guess, they were just trying out something new (notice her outfit in the flashback is somewhat similar to her TNBA outfit), and didn't want to ruin a whole new episode if it stunk.

-The Game

Yeah, could be. The whole thing is very strange, though. The outfit in "Almost Got 'Im" doesn't even include shoes.

Toddman

[adoptedBatpuppy]

I picked Birds of the Feather, and I didn't even watch it. Was it good?

[Mr. Obsession]

'nuff said.

[Failure]

Originally posted by Rimma Likover
I picked Birds of the Feather, and I didn't even watch it. Was it good?

Hold on a sec, last week you said you voted randomly. This week, you're picking an ep that you haven't even watched? This isn't a joke poll Rimma, if you're not going to support a valid opinion, don't participate.

[Toddman]

Originally posted by Failure


Hold on a sec, last week you said you voted randomly. This week, you're picking an ep that you haven't even watched? This isn't a joke poll Rimma, if you're not going to support a valid opinion, don't participate.

Isn't Rimma from Russia or something? Perhaps BTAS was not as available in Russia as it was elsewhere, but it didn't prevent Rimma from becoming a fan.

I think that everyone should be able to vote in the poll, whether they've seen every episode, or none of the episodes. Others have stated that they only voted for the episodes that they have seen and ignored the ones that they've missed. What Rimma is doing is practically the same thing.

Sure, this isn't a joke poll, but it is just for a cartoon series. The same kind of thing happens in real political elections all the time, and nobody is prevented from voting in those.

In a poll that Jim Harvey has told us depends on participation for survival, I think that Rimma is actually doing his/her part. Keep on voting, Rimma! (And to answer your question: no, "Birds of a Feather" was not very good).

Toddman

[Mr. Obsession]

Really, I thought "Birds of a Feather" was quite good, story wise. Sure the animation (from what I remember the last time I saw the ep) was horrid, but I loved the story especially since The Penguin was actually trying to go legit.

Defiantly one of the more underrated episodes, IMO. Not in the same league as "I Am the Night" or "Almost Got 'Im". But still a good one.

[Failure]

Originally posted by Toddman


Isn't Rimma from Russia or something? Perhaps BTAS was not as available in Russia as it was elsewhere, but it didn't prevent Rimma from becoming a fan.

I think that everyone should be able to vote in the poll, whether they've seen every episode, or none of the episodes. Others have stated that they only voted for the episodes that they have seen and ignored the ones that they've missed. What Rimma is doing is practically the same thing.

From what I understand, Rimma has seen some BTAS eps. If that's the case, she should only choose from the one's she's seen. And if she hasn't seen any of the 10 eps in this poll, then she should wait for another week where there's an episode she has seen. Blind participation for the sake of participation doesn't contribute anything.


Originally posted by Toddman
Sure, this isn't a joke poll, but it is just for a cartoon series. The same kind of thing happens in real political elections all the time, and nobody is prevented from voting in those.

Which is why the electoral college exists. People's votes don't really matter when it counts.

[Maxie Zeus]

Without getting into a big to-do about the ethics of uninformed voting, it would probably be best that people who cast uninformed votes not advertise the fact.

Look, we can't keep Rimma (or anyone else) from voting for episodes she's never seen. I think it's a bad idea to cast such a vote, and I'll go on record as saying so. (Garbage in, garbage out.) But anyone who does cast a random vote should at least have the courtesy not to proclaim the fact, because it will only give lots of other people heartburn.

[Toddman]

Originally posted by Failure


From what I understand, Rimma has seen some BTAS eps. If that's the case, she should only choose from the one's she's seen. And if she hasn't seen any of the 10 eps in this poll, then she should wait for another week where there's an episode she has seen. Blind participation for the sake of participation doesn't contribute anything.

That makes good sense, but it seems as though the number of people participating in the poll is almost as important as the result. I think Rimma (or anyone else) should go ahead and vote even if they've never seen the episodes in that particular group.



Originally posted by Failure

Which is why the electoral college exists. People's votes don't really matter when it counts.

Are you being sarcastic? I thought that the most recent Presidential election showed us that even w/the electoral college in place, one vote can make all the difference in the world.

Toddman

[Failure]

Originally posted by Toddman
That makes good sense, but it seems as though the number of people participating in the poll is almost as important as the result. I think Rimma (or anyone else) should go ahead and vote even if they've never seen the episodes in that particular group.

Ok, this is going to be my last response to this, because I don't want this to get out of hand and because we're getting a little off-topic.

We all want this poll to go well, we all want scads of participation. But it should be meaningful participation. If we really wanted more votes, we could just go around asking random people if they're Batman fans, and if so, we could ask them to choose from a handful of episodes, whether they've ever seen BTAS or not. Quantity is important, but quality is more important. We want this poll to be representative of us Bat-fans. It's not perfect, but random voting isn't going to help any. I know Rimma's vote wont affect the outcome, so it shouldn't matter if she picked randomly. But if you've seen the last two Delaney polls, they have been tight with a capital T. If one of these episodes polls came down to the wire like that, I wouldn't want a handful of random votes determining the outcome.

That said, Maxie's right. We can't force anyone to not vote randomly. However, like Maxie said, DO NOT post saying you picked randomly. It just sets you up to be flamed.



Are you being sarcastic? I thought that the most recent Presidential election showed us that even w/the electoral college in place, one vote can make all the difference in the world.

Toddman

Well, technically, Gore won didn't he? By about 550,000 votes. If there wasn't an electoral college, the whole Florida thing would've been nothing. The electoral college was initially created because our founding fathers were afraid of a direct democracy. They didn't want people to have the ultimate control, so instead they set up a system where representatives vote for the people.

Let me say, by no means, am I an expert and I wouldn't dare claim to be. However, since political discussions are against the rules and since we've gone a bit off topic. If you want to discuss this further over PM, I'd be happy too.

So... it looks like AGI is going to win pretty easily. I would've guessed IaTN would've put up a closer fight.

[The Penguin]

Originally posted by Failure
So... it looks like AGI is going to win pretty easily. I would've guessed IaTN would've put up a closer fight.

Although if some more people who haven't voted yet would come and vote (when this thing started we had 250) it could change. Remember the poll is open until Sunday. Come on people cast a vote! (For your favorite episode that you've seen) :)

[Toddman]

Originally posted by Failure


Ok, this is going to be my last response to this, because I don't want this to get out of hand and because we're getting a little off-topic.

We all want this poll to go well, we all want scads of participation. But it should be meaningful participation. If we really wanted more votes, we could just go around asking random people if they're Batman fans, and if so, we could ask them to choose from a handful of episodes, whether they've ever seen BTAS or not. Quantity is important, but quality is more important. We want this poll to be representative of us Bat-fans. It's not perfect, but random voting isn't going to help any. I know Rimma's vote wont affect the outcome, so it shouldn't matter if she picked randomly. But if you've seen the last two Delaney polls, they have been tight with a capital T. If one of these episodes polls came down to the wire like that, I wouldn't want a handful of random votes determining the outcome.

That said, Maxie's right. We can't force anyone to not vote randomly. However, like Maxie said, DO NOT post saying you picked randomly. It just sets you up to be flamed.

Well said, Failure. I was afraid my last post may have sounded a little rude, so I appreciate the thoughtful response. I, too, want to see a proper and fair result for every poll. I haven't been visiting the Delaney poll, but of course I underatand what you're saying. I guess what it comes down to for me is that I don't think that a few random votes will hurt the overall outcome and the poll needs the participation. Rimma's vote is probably very harmless. And on those points it looks like we agree.

I also think that Maxie had a good point about not shouting out the fact if your just taking a shot in the dark w/your vote.


Originally posted by Failure


Well, technically, Gore won didn't he? By about 550,000 votes. If there wasn't an electoral college, the whole Florida thing would've been nothing. The electoral college was initially created because our founding fathers were afraid of a direct democracy. They didn't want people to have the ultimate control, so instead they set up a system where representatives vote for the people.

Let me say, by no means, am I an expert and I wouldn't dare claim to be. However, since political discussions are against the rules and since we've gone a bit off topic. If you want to discuss this further over PM, I'd be happy too.

So... it looks like AGI is going to win pretty easily. I would've guessed IaTN would've put up a closer fight.

I'm not interested in getting into a political discussion either, nor was I a poly-sci major, I was only pointing to the fact that the electoral college vote for each state is still determined by the number of popular votes within that state. (I know that legally the state's representatives have the power to cast their vote in opposition to the pop. count, but that is a whole other discussion.)

Thanks again for the very intelligent response/debate.

Toddman

[Caped Crusader]

Well, after days of trying to make up my mind, I've finally reached a decision, and my choice was....I am the Night. This had to be one of the best B:TAS episodes of all time! I'm also surprised, Game.......I thought "I am the Night" would win for sure.

[BatChick]

Almost Got 'im got my vote

[James Harvey]

Caped Crusader, I thought I Am The Night would run away with it too, or it would at least be an incredibly close match between that episode and Almost Got 'Im. I'm surprised with how far in the lead A.G.I. has.

[DisneyBoy]

Actually, I am a little disappointed that "Almost Got Im" is in the lead. I was hoping that the more character and art driven episodes would be the ones that made it to the lead - stories like "Two-Face" for example. Then again, this was probably the first poll where a more entertaining episode won, so I can't really complain. I do hope though, that "Catwalk" and "Second Chance" make it far - They were both amazing episodes. Are they together on the same polls? I hope not!

[James Harvey]

Well, voting is up a bit from last week, and I'd like to thank everyone who stuck mentions of the poll in their signatures and various posts they put up! Remember, if you keep doing this to change the URL when the new poll goes up. Thanks alot - I think that contributed to a better turnout this week. And with about 4 or 5 hours until the poll closes, it looks like Almost Got 'Im is going to undoubtably walk away with the victory!

[Joker85]

Man, I didn't realize how one sided this poll would be! Well, Almost Got I'm deserves to win!

[Lucky Bob]

So there was this poll, see? And while the best BTAS episode was in front, "I Am The Night" came closer...and closer...So,

I threw a rock at it!

:cool:

[ShadowWolf]

I am very disappointed to see “Almost got I'm” win.

[Borg4of3]

I'm disappointed to see I am the Night not win, but happy to see Almost Got 'Im win! Both are miles above most eps!