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Barb Gordon
03-03-2002, 10:32 PM
Of all the vigilantes in Gotham, or Bludhaven for that matter, who do you think has it the hardest? And by this I mean, who has the toughest time going back and forth between one identity and the other? Bruce, Dick, Barbara, Tim, etc.?

Barb^-^

BLACKHEART
03-03-2002, 10:39 PM
Nightwing, he can be quite the little girl sometimes

BLACKHEART
03-03-2002, 10:47 PM
I would like to add something to that instead of not saying why

In Batman 600 he is crying "What about me? What about Dick Grayson?"

Dick you do realize Bruce's ex g/f and someone he cared for is dead. That's right she died in the Wayne House. She was brutally killed and I'm sure this doesn't make Bruce too happy but "What about me? What about Dick Grayson?"

Instead of helping someone who helped him he is more worried about himself

He's so jealous of Batman he had to find his own city and try to run the game

The Guard
03-04-2002, 10:58 AM
You've missed the point. Dick and Bruce had become increasingly closer, to the point where Bruce legally adopted Dick. Now Dick's father is leaving. And he won't tell Dick what's going on. He won't even deny that he murdered Vesper. Of COURSE he has a right to be upset.

Web Head
03-04-2002, 11:13 AM
Well, I don't read a lot of comics, but in the animated continuity I'd have to say Barbara.

Bruce has a big mansion out in the middle of nowhere, which provides a good base of operations. He's also very rich, which helps him fund his activities.

Tim lives with Bruce, so he has direct access to the mansion and had Buce directly training him from the very beginning.

Dick had the advantages of Bruce's training and wealth as he was growing up, and now he's got the circus trust fund to keep him stocked with batarangs till he hangs the tights up.

Babs on the other hand had to do everything from scratch. She made her costume herself, and didn't have years of training like the rest of the group. Hell, Alfred probably had more combat training than Babs did when she started. She also didn't have millions to draw on when arming herself. And everyone else seems relatively isolated, without an outside life, so they don't have the constant burden of hiding their identity from a loved one. Barbara at least has to keep it from the Commish.

Nightwing
03-04-2002, 11:45 AM
I'd have to say either Barb, with Dick as a close second for having to put up with Bruce. :p I dunno what comic that selfish line came from, but out of Bruce and Dick, Dick is the more sane one. :p

Barb, bless her sweet heart, has a great weight on her shoulders that she choses to put there herself. According to her job and family, what her night life consists of is pretty darn illegal. :p But she still gives her 110% no matter what. She's just amazing.

BLACKHEART
03-04-2002, 11:55 AM
I wonder if Nightwing knows how to use a gun. He isn't really that stable and I wouldn't put anything past him you know? Of course he know's how to use a gun. He's a cop. He knows what to do

The Game
03-04-2002, 04:36 PM
I say Tim. He's got all the reponsibilties of a regular superhero, and he has to deal with the pressures of high school! :p

-The Game

The Green Hornet
03-04-2002, 09:08 PM
id say if anyones gonna snap and use a gun its TIM

Barb Gordon
03-04-2002, 09:19 PM
Batman taught Robin how to shoot when he was younger. And when he was in the police academy, it showed, so yeah, he definetly knows how to use a gun. Well, Bruce would prefer to be Batman all the time, I think. And Babs, regretfully, no longer has to worry about being Batgirl and then Barb Gordon, because now she's just Oracle and Babs at the same time. Dick on the otherhand, has made it really hard for himself. Not only is he in a very tough city to help, but he's now also a cop, which, unlike Bruce who can go into work late or not even go, Dick doesn't have that option. He almost always has to do the cop thing every day, and the Nightwing thing every night. You'd think it would start to really wear on him. And ack! I really need to get Batman 600!! *sobs*, I only make it to the comic store like once a month, so I'm gonna be in agony for at least a week or two...no fair..

Barb^-^

The Green Hornet
03-04-2002, 09:39 PM
why doesnt Bruce Wayne just fake his own death, let dick take over Wayne Enterprises and the Wayne Estate (since i think he enjoys being DG still) and then he can be THE BATMAN all the time?

Barb Gordon
03-04-2002, 11:28 PM
Sounds like a pretty good solution to me. But the, the comics or cartoons wouldn't be have as fun if they did that, for Dick or Bruce I think. We need that Bruce Wayne bit in there every now and again to make things interesting and pull away from the vigilantism every now and again. Maybe...

Barb^-^

BLACKHEART
03-05-2002, 11:22 AM
Batman 600 was good, but not what it was hyped to be. The fight was a let down, but Nightwing made up for it with his "What about me? What about Dick Grayson"

There's a good Joker back-up so I suggest you pick it up, wait till after Wednesday and you can get whatever's new this week