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Killtacular
03-03-2002, 10:16 PM
Post your reviews... Yaffa commands you!

Click here to review "Class Trip"! (http://adultswim.toonzone.net/episodes/episodes-hm21.php)
Click here to review "Hurtin' Inside"! (http://adultswim.toonzone.net/episodes/episodes-bb9.php)
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Cactusjack1999
03-03-2002, 10:27 PM
(The only reason I'm posting here is cause the PHP isn't working for me)

Class Trip - OK episode. It had it's moments. B+.

Oh and one more thing. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE KILL WALTER AND PERRY!!!!

spectre316
03-03-2002, 10:35 PM
I think I have witnessed either the best or one of the best episodes of the season. Everything was so well put together. You know how in nearly every HM episode there is a new movie that Brendon and his friends create? Well, the one in this episode, while not being as classic as the shrinking man one, was indeed classic. A hilarious spoof of Hitchcock films, everything was perfect. As the episode goes on, later segments of their movie get better because of the susepense off the camera -- for fear that -- them, filming in a hotel -- are going to be caught (it's illegeal). So you'll be laughing at what seems like unintentional moments to Brendon that are incredibly intentional.

The humor and everything just grew from the start of the episode and began building. I can think of so many good moments. The great, great ending on the bus (featuring Walter and Perry's most uncomfortable moment as of yet; beautiful guitar music and a great way to show our favorite characters in place), Fenton complaining to the guy with the horrible accent about how he can't understand him, Melissa running away from the hotel closet, the movie sequences, Coach McGuirk's name when he works at certain places, etc, etc. Great episode, loved it. Grade: A+

Chibi Kageboshi
03-03-2002, 10:55 PM
LOL this episode of Home Movies was great. And i believe highly that Walter and perry are gay lol.... that Clareace girl was creepy with her not blinking thing....

JTurner954
03-03-2002, 10:58 PM
Well, another good Home Movies has just ended. The lead up to "Brenden" working at the coffee shop was great. This is also the only episode where I found Jason funny and not disturbing. Those two people who stay with each other all the time(Walter and Perry, is it?) still aren't funny. Take Beavis and Butthead and mix it with the "Spartan" cheerleaders that Will Ferell and Cheri Oteri play on SNL and you get those two. Overall grade: A-

Baby Blues: The best part about the episode were all the flashbacks. Stared out real strong, then got a little weak, then ended ok. I figured it wouldn't be mean-spirited then it changed quickly. :( Oh well. At least Darryl was happy in the end. This makes the second Baby Blues episode that I actually liked (the first one was the surveillance one). One of my favorite lines: "You don't talk to trash, you take it out". Overall grade: B

I'll post my opinions on the rest of the lineup a little bit later.

randomguy
03-03-2002, 10:58 PM
Flawless. A++++ episode. Here's what made this episode a classic:

-As Spectre said, the new film was hilarious. As time went on, its twists got more and more absurd. Jason's "Ok then, let's go to bed" bit that started the episode was insanely funny
-FENTON! Since "The Party" was probably my favorite HM episode, I jumped with joy when I saw Fenton make his second appearance. Just as well-done this time around, although he was slightly more subdued. Maybe Coach McGuirk actually did change him a little.
-Walter and Perry. I know some hate them, but I think their little romance subplot is hilarious. I hope they continue to make homophobic viewers feel ackward.
-McGuirk. At first, his subplot was extremely tacked-on, but it endured itself to you. By the end, it came together with the main plot, and brought things full circle.
-The Premise. Having everybody go on a class trip was a great way to get all the characters together within a few feet interacting with some new scenery.
-Absence of Linda and Brendan's dad. I like the new plot with those two, but the brief respite here was welcome.
-Paula. Instead of having her own plot here, she got written in with everybody else, where she's funnier anyway.
-Lynch got some good scenes too. Which elude me right now.
-The ending. It brought everything together, gave all the characters and their relationships a good moment, and came a little closer to confirming my theory that McGuirk is really Brendan's father figure. Creepy though that might be. Their little ackward exchange at the end was very appropriate and strangely affectionate. This was complemented by the AWESOME guitar bus theme, just a simple but beautiful tune with the accoustic guitar. The music this season has been so good (and underappreciated) it's riduculous. Inbetween this and Sunset Theme and whatever played at the end of "Therapy", HM NEEDS a CD release. Desperately.

What more can I say? Simply Awesome.

Chibi Kageboshi
03-03-2002, 11:32 PM
I loved this baby blues episode... lol when zoe was making out with that little kid was soooooooo funny lol! and then "Rodney, what videogame should i shoplift for you?"

eltingville- i already said what i thought the first time and i still think it neeeeeds to be a series it so dar funny... specialy when the kid goes "who played the joker?" and the owner pats him then oushes him off lololol

Detra
03-03-2002, 11:37 PM
Home Movies -"Class Trip"-
Aggreed, another great episode. Everything really fit together well, the hotel and the coffee shop plots work out really well. I like Walter and Perry, I think they're funny. Grade: A

The Eltingville Club - "Welcome to Eltingville" -
This show is simply HILARIOUS. I'm not sure many people would get the referances, but you really don't need to, the show stands on it own. Cartoon Network better green light this show. NOW. I'M SERIOUS. Yeah, That's what I though. Grade: A+

randomguy
03-03-2002, 11:39 PM
Sorry, but I did NOT like this one. It got a few decent jokes off of the whole fanboy angle, but like that 80's show proves, you can't make a whole series off of one slightly funny mentality. It seems to me like the depth and likeability of characters just isn't there for this thing to support a whole 1/2 hour. Maybe if it was 15 minutes... but I find the characters annoying, the premise already exhausted, and the laughs kind of low. Sorry. This one just isn't for me....great animation though.

Chibi Kageboshi
03-03-2002, 11:50 PM
i completel disagree its one of the best shows on there, i like it more than home movies and i think the animation could have been better.

spectre316
03-03-2002, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by randomguy
-Walter and Perry. I know some hate them, but I think their little romance subplot is hilarious. I hope they continue to make homophobic viewers feel ackward.

I hope so too, lol. I thought it was indeed hilarious.


Originally posted by randomguy
-The Premise. Having everybody go on a class trip was a great way to get all the characters together within a few feet interacting with some new scenery.

The new scenery was indeed a good change.


Originally posted by randomguy
-Absence of Linda and Brendan's dad. I like the new plot with those two, but the brief respite here was welcome.

I was actually very happy not to see them this time around. Kind of sad, isn't it? Seeing how it's a major storyline - the last episode of the season being "The Wedding" ...


Originally posted by randomguy
Inbetween this and Sunset Theme and whatever played at the end of "Therapy", HM NEEDS a CD release. Desperately.

I know! It needs one badly. But I don't know how I'd take it -- basically because the music works well when it ends an episode, or when it's in a certain part of an episode. Listening to it on headphones on a regular day would be a bit boring, but even so it's great music. I'd add the ending to "Brendon's Choice," and the great songs in "Mortgages and Marbles."

spectre316
03-03-2002, 11:53 PM
The Eltlingville Club was amazing. I loved every freaking second of that episode. I loved the whole quiz off thing they had, and I loved the beginning. Good stuff, we need more!

Shnay
03-04-2002, 12:14 AM
Home Movies: I really liked this episode, very solid all around. After the last two "character driven" episodes, this simply focuses on comedy while throwing any logical story out the window (which I'll get to later). It had very good pacing, and stayed pretty funny throughout. Some highlights for me were the opening movie, the hotel manager showing things to Fenton and the kids, and the chaotic confrontations in the coffee shop at the end, to name a few.

Now to nitpick. Why the hell would kids go on a class field trip to a hotel? I thought kids only went to museums or factories. Also, I think Walter and Perry (who, for the record, I find very funny) are suppossed to go to a private school, considering they're both wearing uniforms. And finally, why is the sausage guy from "Identifying a Body" managing a hotel? I know he worked another job (which I can't remember now) but seeing him continually appearing as seemingly different characters is kind of strange. But, he's funny, so I'll let it slide.

Baby Blues: A pretty good Baby Blues episode. I really liked the "tourtured souls" and the reactions of the girls around them (I especially liked Rodney's aloof "pain"). There was also a nice little "message" for all us nice guys/losers out there.

Welcome to Eltingville: Wow. This is one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time. I almost soiled myself while watching ("I said ALMOST!"). I already love the characters, even the minor ones like "the wannabe."

You definately don't have to get all the refrences to love the show, but I'm sure knowing them just makes it all the better. I suppose this is going to be one of the shows people love or hate, and I'm definately in the "love" category. I can't wait to see more.

Space Ghost:
(1) "Kentucky Nightmare": This is one of my favorite Space Ghost episodes. I loved the documentary as well as the opening scene where Space Ghost is explaining Old Kentucky Shark and the merger to Zorak and Moltar. Hi-larious.

(2) "Switcheroo": This is the first time I saw this episode, and I'm pretty pleased. The whole "Space Ghost Con" thing was really great, as well as Zorak and Moltar's own "Trivia-off" of sorts.

What a great night for Adult Swim Comedy. Let's see more nights like this...

JTurner954
03-04-2002, 12:30 AM
They gave up Sealab 2021 for this; a show with a bunch of nerds?? UGH Welcome to Eltingville comments:

Pros:

I liked the mother who sounded like Ms. Crabtree because...... she sounded like Ms. Crabtree.

The guy with no eyes AKA the guy in the red hat was cool. Everything from the Skeletor remark to the Ebay thing was great.

Um.... the fact that I knew only 3 of those useless triva questions.

I was able to hear the VERY long geek off and understand what was said.

The fact that people actually threw out that group of geeks.

The sister who was using a vodoo doll to kill the brother who wanted the Boba doll.

The babes tape that turned into a bears tape (those who watched know what I mean).

Cons:

The sign in the comic book store that said "This isn't a libery".

The trivia geek off was too long and actually gave me a
headache.

All the pus and zit jokes on that fat guy with the glasses.

The fay guy and his crying like a baby.

The other guy who was fighting for the Boba Fett doll.

Way too many nerds that won't shut up.

Kevin Smith didn't come in and waste these people (doesn't that fat guy kind of look like Smith?)

The scene with the head of Boba Fett (I won't explain any further for those who didn't see it).

The ECW chant. Don't even get me started on that one.

It was a 30 minute show.

A bunch of other stuff that would be painful to remember.

In summary: Is it better than Aqua Teen Hunger Force?? YES
Is it better than The Brak Show?? Umm...I'm leaning towards no.
Is it better than Sealab 2021?? NO WAY

The worst show on the block tonight (Space Ghost was great tonight with a B+ rating.) If they played Eltingville at 12:00 or 12:30 (also might be good since there were more subject matter), then I wouldn't complain as much. Bring back Sealab 2021 so things are right again.

Overall grade for Eltingville: Well, since they did bring up stuff like Transformers, Batman, and even He Man, and I did laugh at them, my score is ranging from D+ to C-. If there was another show, I would watch it with some hopes for improvement.

Killtacular
03-04-2002, 01:47 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, here's how NOT to do a review.

And, J. Turner, just because you don't get it, doesn't mean it's bad, or that you have the right to flame against it.


They gave up Sealab 2021 for this; a show with a bunch of nerds??

FIRST OF ALL.

1) They're geeks, not nerds. Dorks is also appropriate.
2) Sealab has been in reruns for a few months now.


Um.... the fact that I knew only 3 of those useless triva questions.

Well, here's the problem then.

The show is aimed at geeks, dorks, obsessive TV viewers, and sci-fi fans.

You obviously aren't in that bracket, so what were you expecting?


The fact that people actually threw out that group of geeks.

This is bordering on flaming. Constructive criticism only.


The sign in the comic book store that said "This isn't a libery".

And that's a con.. how?


The trivia geek off was too long and actually gave me a
headache.

Again, what were you expecting from a show targetted at the culture-immersed?


The fay guy and his crying like a baby.

The fay guy?


The other guy who was fighting for the Boba Fett doll.

In what way was he a con? You're being very unspecific.


Way too many nerds that won't shut up.

*inhale*
WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING?!


Kevin Smith didn't come in and waste these people (doesn't that fat guy kind of look like Smith?)

Well, you've done it. You've spilled flame all over the place. Flaming is not tolerated here. Do it again and I'll edit your post and take it out (or replace it with something else).

We're looking for constructive criticism here, folks.

Evan Dorkin can make this show perfect with the right suggestions. How is "Kevin Smith didn't come in and waste these people" going to help? Honestly.

Calhoun07
03-04-2002, 01:52 AM
I don't think the trivia challenge was too long. The point was that there was NOTHING that these two didn't know. The point was to make you feel like it was taking too long to get it over with, and in the end, it was only because one of them was exhausted and tired that he got slightly forgetful of a detail. I think the trivia face off was perfectly done.

JTurner954
03-04-2002, 02:09 AM
I was bothered that library was spelled wrong. If it was a joke, then I didn't like it.

I didn't realize saying nerd was offensive, so I won't mention any kind of nickname title anymore.

When I watch a new show, I don't want to know anything until I see it. I saw the short commercial with the kid getting attacked by hawks, so I didn't expect a show that dealt with people that go to a comic store and have "a geek off".

I'm sorry that I stated my opinion too harshly. I'll keep my comments to a minimum from now on.

SSJ_Gogeta
03-04-2002, 05:56 AM
Eltingville is awesome!

I hope it gets green lighted for new episodes! I also hope the theme of the show never changes. These geek haters can go watch SNL, or whatever for all I care.

Feslmogh
03-04-2002, 09:08 AM
Home Movies-A+

Baby Blues- Almost a great episode except of the ending. If they ended it after Carl and Brandon's talk, it would've been perfect.

Eltingville- Except for the zit jokes(GAG ), it was funny.

Bird Boy
03-04-2002, 09:19 AM
awww man..I gotta say...Eltingville Club was the best gosh darn show on Adult Swim I've ever seen...must be the geekyness in me...

I loved every minute of that episode. Especially that whole 12" Vintage Boba Fett thing.....boy that was great (it's the Star Wars geekyness in me no doubt)..

I need more of this series...and I need it now.. :D

And a huge thanks to Matt for telling me it was on.. :)

-BB

Chris Sanders MSX
03-04-2002, 09:49 AM
I haven't watched AS yet because i went out last night. I have everything i wanted on tape and will be watching it as soon as I get my snacks together. I'll be back to review it in about 90 minutes.

Supreme
03-04-2002, 10:49 AM
I don't think that Eltingville was that great. It had it's moments, but there seemed to be too much padding. The trivia-off WAS too long. I think this show would work better as a 15 minute spot. The half-hour format gave it enough time for the jokes to get tired. Kind of like Dilbert, where a daily strip is okay to see a little office humor, but being drowned in it on a show takes away from it.

Overall, I liked it, but it needs a little work. It only the first show though, so I'm sure it will get better. I was also a little upset about the trivia thing because I knew every answer :o

btw, I have a MIB 12" Boba Fett. Got it on clearance at Toys R Us for $4.00 :D

DR. BELCH
03-04-2002, 11:23 AM
HOME MOVIES:
Missed it because my idiot brother watched moronic basketball on stupid ESPN. :mad:

BABY BLUES:
THis one resurrects the old debate about whether or not women really go for sensitivity in a man. I'm inclined, from personal experience, to believe they don't, not as much as they say. Then again, no man wants a girl who's too innocent, either, so it works both ways.
We finally learn that Shelby is four years old. Why he never speaks is still a mystery, though.
Note E.G. Daily voiced Daryl's high-school crush. Appropriate she voices both the important girls in his life (the other being Zoe).
The moral here is a bit muddy--girls go for abusive psychopath bad boys...but they come to a bad end and end up janitors. So what happens to the girls? Do they wind up trapped in bad marriages or leave the loser and move on to something better? I worry about Bizzy--the pill-pusher was too bland for her, so she gravitates back towards the whack-job stalker guy. So where's the happy medium? Well, there's Daryl, but that approaches a whole new level of creepy....

A sci-fi theme tonight in the scond hour--first the pus-heavy, Beavisish Eltingville in"Bring Me the Head of Boba Fett" (the scary thing is I knew most of the answers to those questions)....then Mark Hamill appeared on Space Ghost. Big laugh of the night was S.G. calling him "Duke Fartknocker".

Mr. X
03-04-2002, 12:03 PM
...blinking shows you're human." Freaking hilarious. Home Movies is one of the most consistently funny shows going today. I loved all of it. Even Walter & Perry, who really creep me out, are funny as hell. My one gripe is the hotel manager with the "it's funny because you can't understand it" accent--it's kind of a funny gag, I guess, but he shows up in just about every episode lately and I think it's a bit tired. A-

Baby Blues is not one of my favorite shows, but it's usually watchable. This week's episode seemed about par for the course. A couple of great bits and lots of moderate chuckles. I wish they'd branch out a bit from the typical "1. Darryl thinks he's the be-all end-all of parenting. 2. Darryl's misguided confidence screws things up. 3. Darryl learns it's OK because after all, muddling through is what parenting is all about" storylines. B-

Welcome to Eltingville: First, let me say: CN, PLEASE PICK UP THIS SHOW! ADULT SWIM NEEDS MORE OF THIS!!

Having said that, I'll say I didn't love the pilot quite as much as I wanted to. I loved the artwork, the animation was good, and the script didn't back off of Dorkin's caustic sense of humor. The trivia challenge was quite simply awesome (yes, I knew far too many of the answers). I liked the script's willingness to criticize the absurd commercialism of the fanboy/geek world. The wannabe kid was hilarious. Ensign Wonder Woman? Great!

What I didn't love: The gross-out zit humor. I was a bit surprised at the level of violence (there was more blood here than anything on ASA Saturday!) I guess I shouldn't have been, after all Milk & Cheese is one of the most violent (and hilarious) comics ever. And I think it would be improved by a little more fondness for the characters in the writing--the Club members are made to look like jerks a bit too often, and the "angry geek" schtick could get tired after a while.

All in all, a great debut. I hope this is not the last we've seen of the Eltingville Club! A-/B+

Kentucky Nightmare was much more funny this time, without the "DVD Commentary Track" by the staff's mothers. A

Switcheroo made me laugh out loud. A lot. "Duke Fartknocker!" A

Finally, I'd like to thank CN for running Rocky & Bullwinkle yet again--I was able to go to bed early and I'm much more productive at work today as a result.

Mr. X Out.

Killtacular
03-04-2002, 12:06 PM
I was bothered that library was spelled wrong. If it was a joke, then I didn't like it.

It's just a background gag...


I didn't realize saying nerd was offensive, so I won't mention any kind of nickname title anymore.

It isn't. I was just making sure you knew the difference.


I'm sorry that I stated my opinion too harshly. I'll keep my comments to a minimum from now on.

But what's the fun in giving up? I'm just giving you guidelines here. Constructive criticism works, but harsh insulting does not.

Chris Sanders MSX
03-04-2002, 02:01 PM
Well, I successfully watched the tape and I see that I missed quite a bit. On to the review.

Home Movies : Good Episode, but those Walter and Perry kids are annoying. Allow me to paraphrase.. "Watch me sleep" " Wow . It's Beautiful".. what kinda weirdo crap is that ? Um I liked the stuff with McQuirque and "lil mama" also the side plot with them making the movie in the hotel, that was well done (TP !) ... As usual another great episode, The only thing about this episode was that it had a lot of useless unfunny scenes. I'm sure i wasn't the only one who noticed it.

Grade: B+ (my lowest grade for a Home Movies Ep. yet)



Baby Blues : I liked this episode a lot. It was funny and true. I follow the same philosophy in my everyday life, so this episode really meant something to me. On the inside i'm a really nice guy, but i learned in 7th grade that girls don't want that and have been kind of a jerk since that point on. And it's worked really well...But now I'm scared I may grow up to become a janitor. Anyway great episode, with great lines, like....

Rodney- Virgin through high school ?

Daryl -And then some.

.. One of my new favorite episodes. I hate how it ends with Daryl getting beat up but the whole Janitor thing makes it okay.

Grade- A +


Eltingville - Feh, it was okay. I mean I'd watch it every week, but the show was kind of bland. Maybe I'm not much of a geek any more. In 6th grade I would of caught all the refferences or knew most of the answers in the triva off, But now a lot of that stuff flew over my head. I liked some of the jokes, and the art was done well for the type of show they are making, but I dunno it was just off. Like i said I'd keep watching it, because i can see potential and I did like what I saw but it wasn't what I was expecting. Thank God for that other show that used to be on WB (I forget the name), with the brothers. I loved that show and that was more of what I was expecting, not just a bunch of stuff that i didn't get with jokes thrown in. I wanted to see more of the actual Eltingville, you know ? Aw well it was still a good show.

Grade- B-

I should have stayed home, that party was horrible.. freaking 12 thru 15 year olds every where... I would have had a way better time watching Adult swim. Guess I learned my lesson. No parties on the Sabath !

Mr. X
03-04-2002, 02:02 PM
1. That Bebop promo blew my freaking mind! (hadn't seen it before)

2. (I know this ain't the place for this, but I gotta vent:) For god's sake, SciFi Channel, get a new commercial for "Firestarter Rekindled"! At least use some different footage or something. You're killing me! (hey, I know about the remote, but I usually don't surf during Adult Swim for fear of missing something)

That is all,
Mr. X

Blue Priestess
03-04-2002, 02:13 PM
I think I have a new favorite AS show... if they pick up the series. Man, that was hilarious! These are the guys I'd date... if they noticed flesh & blood girls. And sadly, I knew about 90% of the trivia-off. A+

Lessee... Baby Blues brought back some memories. "They'll all be janitors" was my mantra in high school. Still, I agree with the comments about the lack of a real moral regarding the whole relationship angle. B

And Home Movies. If they just avoid Linda & Brendan's Dad for the rest of the season, I could seriously love this show again (although that's probably asking too much). This was extremely funny, especially the kids hiding and McGirk training at the coffee shop. And did anyone else catch the disappointment in Lynch's voice when he said that Walter & Perry never run away? A

On the down note, the ads have found a way to get worse. The Firestarter one was bad, but that new Oxygen ad made me wanna puke. It's like a Rosemont ad, with that patented female chauvinism I'm desperate to escape. Ugh.

Mela (second generation geek)

Shnay
03-04-2002, 03:02 PM
I'd like to put in my two cents about the various refrences in Eltingville that some people complain they didn't catch. Some people say this is a show aimed at the geeks, and the "culture obsessed." While this is certainly true, I don't think that it is by any means only for them. I am not a geek. A dork? Oh, my, yes. Yes indeed. But I'm not really up on most of the things the members of the Eltingville club are into. But, you know, that really doesn't matter.

I was only able to answer one or two of the trivia questions (and that's including the question "Who says 'meep, meep, meep?'). But, because the scene was done so well, the comedy in their questions, and the other peoples reactions, works.

I've never played a role playing game, but I know what they're like. So, when the secretary of horror speaks broken Ye Olde English, and the other two whine to the "dungeon master," I can apprecaite the comedy.

I can't tell you who played The Joker. But, in the context of the scene, I can see (and laugh at) how obvious and stupid the "wannabe's" question was.

Don't get hung up on every refrence. I think there's a great show here that some people are reluctant to accept. There is no "geek requirement" for this show, if you like the humor (which some apparently don't) you can see the true hilarity.

(That last part may have seemed like I'm trying to convert everyone to my opinion. I'm not. I'm just callin' 'em as I see 'em.)

Chris Sanders MSX
03-04-2002, 03:35 PM
I know the Joker Question (Kinda) : Jack Nicloson but I could obviously tell that he was going to get stares because of two things... He said Um... and he didn't put any detail in the question, he could of been talking about The Joker from the First Movie with Adam West, the Tv show with Adam West, any of the various cartoons or the movie by Tim Burton.

ohmrbill
03-04-2002, 03:51 PM
I thought it was good, but not great. Overall, it seemed a little bland to me. I also thought the trivia went too long and the zit jokes almost made me change the channel. The RPG scene at the beginning was hilarious, though! "But you're the Dungeon master! You can do ANYTHING!!!"

This show is missing one critical element: The otaku!! I was a little disappointed that the only anime references were Pokemon and one line in the trivia about "Starblazers." The comic book geek has been done so many times and Eltingville didn’t really add much of anything new; a hardcore otaku would definitely put a little bit of a fresh spin on things and make the geek circle complete!

So, while I certainly don’t love this show (at least not yet), I think it’s worth watching every and I hope CN picks it up. I just hope they can cover a little bit of my particular area of geekiness in future episodes. :D

Favorite line: “To helleth with this!”

Blue Priestess
03-04-2002, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by ohmrbill
This show is missing one critical element: The otaku!! I was a little disappointed that the only anime references were Pokemon and one line in the trivia about "Starblazers." The comic book geek has been done so many times and Eltingville didn’t really add much of anything new; a hardcore otaku would definitely put a little bit of a fresh spin on things and make the geek circle complete!

Okay, as a lifelong she-geek, I've had some experience with this. There's a pretty good reason there's not a hardcore otaku in this series: Hardcore otaku are relentless snobs. Most of the raging geeks I've dealt with like anime (at least), but when otaku get involved, that's about all they have, interest-wise. They don't wanna read any comic unless it's manga, and all they'll do is gripe about the translation. They don't wanna watch any other movies except anime, and when they do, they're utterly humorless about it, even if it's the worst thing ever passed off as anime. They don't wanna play any games unless it's based off of an anime series, and again, no sense of humor. In other words, most of the hardcore otaku that have encountered the geek circles I roam in just don't play well with non-hardcore otaku. It's a shame; like I said, a lot of geek-types like anime & add it to their obsessions, but when all someone has & wants to have as far as interests is anime, you can't really do much with 'em.

Sorry if this upsets anyone, but I'm talking from experience here. If anyone else has had different, I'd love to hear, you lucky lucky soul.

Mela

Killtacular
03-04-2002, 05:19 PM
And keep in mind she means the HARDCORE otaku, not otakus in general.

Just to keep things from escalating. :)

Detra
03-04-2002, 05:27 PM
I few more thoughts about Eltingville..

I agree that the "comic book fanatic" thing has been done alot of times, so let's try to make these well rounded geeks eh? Videogames (RPG's in particular) and Anime are two big parts of "geekhood", although you rarely see them referanced.

One more thing, the only constructive critiziem(sp?) I have is the "zit jokes". They're just gross, and attract the "gross teen comedy" group witch I hoped AS would stay away from. Just like "Eddy" or "Mr. Freckles", it just fit out as a flaw.

Behonkiss
03-04-2002, 05:29 PM
Wha? Wow, you've met the wrong people. I am a budding otaku, and my friend already is(He likely gets his money from his uncle, Pat Buchanan.), and we're both very normal watching anime and doing all other nerdy stuff. We're both crazy for Japanese and US cartoons, comics and games, and every single kid I've met has been the same. Dunno, maybe it's different in your area.

Finally, my review:

Home Movies: B+

A good revival to the series after the last two so-so episodes. Some very funny scenes were in this.

Pros: Walter and Perry(That's right, I think they're FUNNY), McGuirk's fake name, the movie("I know you're really the international jewel-smuggling thief!" "How did you figure it out?" "I don't know."), and Jason on the pot.

Cons: I thought some of the 'accent guy and Fenton' hotel scenes were dumb, and I'm STILL trying to figure out why Melissa suddenly freaked out and burst out of the closet screaming. Was she scared of being caught? Was she claustrophobic? What?

Baby Blues: C

OK, but not the greatest episode. Darryl's battle, which he didn't even mean to start, ultimately came out unsatisfying and depressing, even with the uplifting message that I can't prove to be true. Only one girl seems to be interested in me, a non-jerk guy. Good thing she's cute.:)

Eltingville: A+

Oh my god, this was fantastic! I was expecting the best and I got it! I sincerely hope that we see this as a series on '03! I managed to catch most of the refs, and as for the trivia faceoff, I loved it and didn't find it to drag on. As a Pokémon fan, though, I didn't like the apparent bashing of it and fondness for Digimon(There was a question about it).

Space Ghost: A-

Aaaahahahahaha. Space Ghost is such a moron. This was a very fitting episode after the Eltingville premiere, with the con stuff and such. Mark Hamill was a nice touch, and Bill Mumy talking about Tibo the carrot was great.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH US!

Blue Priestess
03-04-2002, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Behonkiss
Wha? Wow, you've met the wrong people. I am a budding otaku, and my friend already is(He likely gets his money from his uncle, Pat Buchanan.), and we're both very normal watching anime and doing all other nerdy stuff. We're both crazy for Japanese and US cartoons, comics and games, and every single kid I've met has been the same. Dunno, maybe it's different in your area.


Trust me, you are very lucky. One person in particular--she's mostly the source of the bias. Maybe it's because she's a stubborn, bullying witch; maybe it's because anime is the only thing she's really interested in (and that includes breathing). But God forbid you mention an American series or comic as a good thing. I think you're a little stunted geek-wise when the only interest you've had, from middle school through to college, is ONE THING. The vast majority of otaku I've met have been pretty cool, but they weren't JUST anime people; some were movie freaks, some were toy freaks, some were video game freaks. It's just another case of diversity making things good.

And did anyone else notice how the Club took over the game pavillion of the toy store? That's always fun.

Mela

redneckgoliath
03-04-2002, 06:08 PM
Cesar Remaro played Joker in the 60's TV show which I believe the newbie was talking about. Any other questions class?

Jimmy Kustes
03-04-2002, 06:18 PM
First Brak, then Home Movies focuses a show around the movie, "Psycho". If you haven't seen the movie, go do so.

I want Eltingville made into a show, the drawing and writing was just what I expected, so I wasn't surprised.

I liked the show because I can relate to the characters. The show is like Penny Arcade, you might not be a PC gamer but Tycho and Gabe act just like their audience. I might not be a sci-fi junkie but I understand what is going on in Eltingville. I only knew the Alex Toth answer out of all those trivia questions.

How many people look and act like the main character, Bill? I know I do! I want it made into a series! That way I get more references to video games and cartoons! Also you just don't get enough of the cast in the half-hour pilot.

Everyone got your questions ready for the Dorkin chat! :cool:

Cactusjack1999
03-04-2002, 06:27 PM
There was another anime question asked during the trivia-off
It was which Digimon digivolves into Ikakumon (I cannot remember who it is)

I thank god there were no DBZ references in the show. Man I know DBZ fanboys would have a field day with it.

dolphin917
03-04-2002, 06:49 PM
Home Movies:

I love this show. I thought this last episode was the best one yet. They seem to have found their footing with this new format they've adopted and I'm sold on it. Season 2 is much better than Season 1, and I don't miss Squigglevision anymore. The dialogue is great, the plot is believable, and the characters are just awesome. McGuirk: always funny.

Baby Blues:

This last episode was really good. I really hope they make more of this show. My girlfriend and I watch it religiously every week.

The Eltingville Club:

Very good. I would definitely watch this show if more episodes were ordered. The trivia-off was funny as hell. These guys clearly know their stuff. It also helped my self-esteem as I only knew five or six answers to all the questions they threw at each other. Therefore, I still have a life. Make more. MC Chris was funny as hell.

Space Ghost:

Space Ghost is always funny. Kentucky Shark is one of the funniest episodes they've done. I never saw Switcheroo #1, and thorougly enjoyed it.

Smoke weed every day. :D

JTurner954
03-04-2002, 07:25 PM
Ok, now that I've had time to calm down from watching Welcome to Eltingville, I'll post a clearer explanation of some of my comments.

First, the geek-off seemed to go too fast for me to enjoy. At first, it was funny. Then, it got annoying. I was saying to myself "I got the joke, this doesn't need to go on" (just like I felt after "the explosing zits").

Second, the reason I said "fat guy" was because I didn't know anyone's names (that's why I also said I liked the guy who wore the red hat). The reason I didn't like most of the main characters was because there was too much complaining such as the beginning scene where the friends are thrown out of the house.

The whole end sequence after the geek off was more arguing over the Boba Fett doll and more pleading that I felt was already established and didn't need to be stretched any further. The show as a whole felt like a Kevin Smith-like show that tried to put in every animation reference that he could into it. Again, I felt "I get the idea already, move on to something else". Look at my first post and you will see MANY positive comments (or should I retype and explain more of those?) so don't think I hate everything in this show ( I really don't).

One last thing: Am I the only one who thinks Star Trek jokes have been done way too much and need to stop?? It seems like every show has spoofed Star Trek. TNN hasn't helped (but that's another topic entirely).

Eddy
03-04-2002, 08:53 PM
Home Movies Review

Very good episode. I don't see why so many people hate Wlater & Perry, I think they are very funny! One thing I didn't get is I don't think Jason was ever in Brendon and Melissa's class. I always figured he was younger than them... Ah, who cares? The episode was awesome!

Baby Blues

This might have been one of my favorite Baby Blues episode. I don't know why... It just is.

Welcome to Eltingville

Loved it! I hope to see more of this show! It was really funny! I like whne they put in the video but it turn out to be that bear cartoon. "Don't make me get Pikachu to whoop your ass!"

randomguy
03-04-2002, 10:43 PM
Man, Matt, you're being pretty tough on JTurner. It's clear Eltingville is close to your heart... oh, and Eddy? I think Walter and Perry are hilarious too. I think people get turned off in some cases because of homophobia.

Chibi Kageboshi
03-04-2002, 11:03 PM
i agree with all your reviews eddy. i also think walter and perry are funny in a creepy sort of way lol "are you watching me sleep?"

DaFiz
03-05-2002, 11:04 AM
didn't catch all of home movies, but from what i saw...i enjoyed...

my verdict on baby blues is still up in the air, i'm not sure if i really like this show or not. sometimes it's funny, other times it just seems to try too hard.

as for "Eltingville" i'm not completely sold on it. like some others have said, the characters are grating on the nerves, there's nothing to like about them....i thought the opening was hilarious, the small boy and the cards; hilarious too, but everything in between was just kind of empty. i can relate, it was like watching me and my group of friends. movie/comic/d&d/geeks...

i'm going to give it another try thursday night and make sure i'm not being hasty and I will watch the next episode (whenever that may be)...but my first impression is: "i wasn't impressed."

Lonestarr
03-05-2002, 11:33 AM
I already posted reviews on the various .php pages, so let me give you the Cliff's notes versions:

Home Movies - Except for returns of Fenton and Walter & Perry, I loved it. The movie and McGuirk's new job were terrific.

Baby Blues - Suffice it to say that Darryl's outburst at the end summed up the Cape Fear-like episode very well, though I could've done with a better ending, though.
Favorite line: "I guess that nobody loves Raymond."

The Eltingville Club - Please, please, please make this into a regular show! Very funny, with a little something to satisfy the geek in all of this (in some way, we're ALL geeks; admit it, guys). The trivia-off was the highpoint.

VinceA
03-05-2002, 11:34 AM
Unless you've got it taped, it won't be on Thursday night. Adult Swim Comedy only runs on Sunday night

Lonestarr
03-05-2002, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by VinceA
Unless you've got it taped, it won't be on Thursday night. Adult Swim Comedy only runs on Sunday night

Ah, come on!!! I wanted him to find out on his own.

DaFiz
03-05-2002, 12:02 PM
um, uh thursdays...whooooops :rolleyes:

i'm the moe-ron...you can all now laugh and point :)

Jude Santos
03-05-2002, 09:01 PM
<hehe, CN is like a network now, theyre actually airing pilots>

anyway, i didnt like eltingville. however, it is funny but i'll take sealab 2021 anyday. i just couldnt relate to it, guess the only "geek" thing i do is anime.

Chris Sanders MSX
03-05-2002, 11:40 PM
Videogames (RPG's in particular) and Anime are two big parts of "geekhood", although you rarely see them referanced.

Because those two forums are no longer an exclusive right of geek hood. Everybody plays Videogames and RPGs unless your talking board games isn't as "geeky" as once thought. Anime also isn't even a geeky thing. Everyone I know who has ever seen a good anime said it was good or cool.

One of my best friends who is no where near a geek gets tapes from The Right Stuf all the time, he even turned me on to anime.. That's why they are rarely refferenced..Because they aren't really big parts of "geekhood".

BlueAngelGal
03-06-2002, 03:20 PM
With most of the above, I agree....Eltingville is a very promising show, and I hope it gets a legitimate shot in the schedule (though hopefully without bumping the new good stuff at the end). I also thought the trivia-off was really, really long, but I don't consider that a negative -- as I kept thinking "come on, get it over with," I felt exactly how long they could go on, the depth of their geeky knowledge. The zit jokes were way overdone, though, I must admit.
Just as a personal note, did anyone else think that including the Hair Bear Bunch was really, really funny? Just the whole scene, them fighting with "help help, here come the bears" in the background totally cracked me up. :)
And yes, the hidden references are also a bonus; after reading about them, I had to go back and watch it again to catch a few (all your base!).

Mr.Glass
03-10-2002, 08:44 PM
Welcome to Elktingville - D

I was kind of looking forward to this. BUt I ended up with a huge disapointment. Although the comic book geek premise was promising and accurate, it was a dead horse, and this show rode it for half an hour. Round and round in circles it went, and here I was hoping for the big payoff...That never came. It had a couple funny moments, but it, as a I mentioned earlier, never seemed to go anywhere. This coming from a guy who LIKES Sealab 2021. Now Sealab seldomn EVER goes anywhere plot wise, and when it does, it generally just to glue the gags together. And that's fine, so long as you don't try to pass yourself off any other way. "WTE" tried to have both a legitimate plot and glue for gags. That is hard to do and seldom done correctly. It certainly wasn't here.