These People... These Fans...

[Game Freak 4]

I apologize if this have been posted before, but... I just can't seem to enjoy most websites with these people around. What with the comments they use, the stuff they upload, and the reactions they make. I saw a video on youtube stating that someone didn't like playing Mega Man 9. Not because of the 8-bit sprites, but he believes it lacks a little skill and feels downgraded compared to Episode 6. He made a review about it but it got removed because fans found it negative. It made the reviewer realize that you cannot say anything negative about MM9, or else you will be bashed, flamed, or even banned by it's loyal fans who will see any negative opinions, no matter how fair or true they are, as trolling and deem the person a "Graphics Whore," even if the said person never mentioned anything about graphics. Then, there's M.U.G.E.N. it seems most M.U.G.E.N players prefer overpowered lolis over stroung, buffed adults. When a big, adult fighter is overpowered, he/she is deem 'cheap,' but when a "loli" is overpowered, they find it okay? Is there really any justice in that?
I heard there are different kinds of fandom, one worse than the other. I bet you people had bad experiences with fandom as well, have you? If so, what has been one of your worst?

Oh, and in case anyone is curious, here's the link to what I was talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbbpaLmF2kA

Could they really go this far?

[Sparticus]

Eeeeh, YouTube is full of 'tards and wankers. It's a cold fact of nature. Trolls like to post on a video they hate, flaming said video, the person who posted and, in the case of AMV's the show/song choice. The logic of "if you don't like it, don't watch it" does not apply to them. It's best to just ignore the comments.

[Game Freak 4]

Eeeeh, YouTube is full of 'tards and wankers. It's a cold fact of nature. Trolls like to post on a video they hate, flaming said video, the person who posted and, in the case of AMV's the show/song choice. The logic of "if you don't like it, don't watch it" does not apply to them. It's best to just ignore the comments.
It's not just YouTube. there's also DeviantART, where "animeish" art is the popular thing, as well as Yaoi/Yuri. I was lucky to find some REAL Japanese Deviants that respect western cartoons. Why, a female from the island of the rising sun has taken a liking to DC Comics! To me, that's rare.

[thenewme93]

Youtube is full of losers that live in their mom's basement and eat potato chips while surfing the web..trust me...the only reason they act like this is because of the privacy they have on the web...trust me if i met these freaks in real life..I'd kick some ass...

[Game Freak 4]

Youtube is full of losers that live in their mom's basement and eat potato chips while surfing the web..trust me...the only reason they act like this is because of the privacy they have on the web...trust me if i met these freaks in real life..I'd kick some ass...
You definitely wouldn't be alone. :evil:

[Temple Fugate]

It's not just YouTube. there's also DeviantART, where "animeish" art is the popular thing, as well as Yaoi/Yuri. I was lucky to find some REAL Japanese Deviants that respect western cartoons. Why, a female from the island of the rising sun has taken a liking to DC Comics! To me, that's rare.A lot of popular sites like these on the net are full of posers and copycats and people who think they have a profound understanding of a foreign culture--or even their own culture--but are horribly misinformed. You just have to look past all of that and focus on the real talent...because there is a LOT of genuine, great talent on YouTube and deviantArt. It just gets lost in all the refuse.

There's no sense in trying to rationalize an irrational internet populace. Best to just let it do its own thing, 'cuz there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about it.

[Spideyzilla]

You definitely wouldn't be alone. :evil:

No way. Some of the stuff they say horrifies me. For example, when NHL player Richard Zednik got his jugulaur cut by a skate, the video went on YouTube. one person said "Put a band-aid on it!" Awful. It's a miracle he survived. And they say THAT?:mad:

[Mynd Hed]

I'd say a good 75% of all human beings are jerks. You just don't generally notice it because they're not in a position to act like it with impunity-- in most human activities, you need to at least pretend to be a decent human being to get the slightest shred of authority or respect. But you put them in a situation where the mob rules, and, surprise surprise, the ruling mob acts like a mob.

It's not a pretty fact of human nature, but it's there and you just have to learn to deal with it.

[Sparticus]

It's not just YouTube. there's also DeviantART, where "animeish" art is the popular thing, as well as Yaoi/Yuri. I was lucky to find some REAL Japanese Deviants that respect western cartoons. Why, a female from the island of the rising sun has taken a liking to DC Comics! To me, that's rare.

There's also a lot of furries.

Actualy, it's a little more hit and miss on DevArt; I've been using it for the past coulple of years and haven't had any trouble, but a number of friends of mine have had all kinds of drama. The popularity of anime has more to do with the age group - a good chunk of the artists are teenagers and rabid yaoi fangirls. Personaly I love anime, and my style is clearly influenced by it, BUT I'm not what you'd call popular because I have a fairly balanced gallery (original and fan art, manga-y and not-so-manga-y). *shrugs*

Still, the flaming and the general trollish behavior is wrong, and annoying. Not to mention the overabundance of fetish pictures on the front page that are somehow being hailed as "ingenious artistic nudes" *rolls eyes*. If that'd been a MALE nude it would have been ganked for inappropriate content. *facepalm*


Youtube is full of losers that live in their mom's basement and eat potato chips while surfing the web..trust me...the only reason they act like this is because of the privacy they have on the web...trust me if i met these freaks in real life..I'd kick some ass...

Ooooh! Can I come too!? :D Assssss-kickiiiin tiiiiiiime!!! XD

[Ajax]

Being a jerk on the internet holds no consequences, the last thing in the world that should bother you is what people on Utube or any other site like that say. The moment it bothers you is the moment they win lol.

[The Nameless]

There's also a lot of furries.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

And I agree, most YouTube users would probably get their asses handed to them in reality. So much for "internet toughness" then.

[DarthGonzo]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

And I agree, most YouTube users would probably get their asses handed to them in reality. So much for "internet toughness" then.

Real life tough guys most likely have better things to do than sit around watching crappy videos on the internet, let alone actually post about them. Most of the ding-dongs on Youtube probably couldn't win a thumb-wrestling competition, but the anonymity of the 'net allows them to be as nasty, condescending and "tough" as they want to without the fear of getting their teeth punched down their throats.

[Sparticus]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

And I agree, most YouTube users would probably get their asses handed to them in reality. So much for "internet toughness" then.

Lol! I like furries fine, it's when the yiff takes over that I get irritated. I have the same beef with yaoi fangirls. :P

[Game Freak 4]

No way. Some of the stuff they say horrifies me. For example, when NHL player Richard Zednik got his jugulaur cut by a skate, the video went on YouTube. one person said "Put a band-aid on it!" Awful. It's a miracle he survived. And they say THAT?:mad:
Was this an angry defense on my post? If it is, then let me re-phrase it. "Oh believe me. You DEFINITELY would NOT be the only one thinking about getting Justice on them!"

Also, at least Furries(and Kigurumi) keep their pie holes shut, unlike some nuisances.

[ifthismeansevos]

I have t admit I've done some fandomentalist post here and there, some of them within the release of x3 really violent, I learnt however and I tried to be polite within the Avatar finale fiasco (I dislike it, I express I dislike it in Utube but I try not to fight with the fans who love it)

It is truth however that there is something severely wrong with some guys and sadly My country and LatinAmerica has a fair ammount.

As an example there is this opening version of Dragon Ball with the Spanish dub (From Spain) and a lot of people wrote all kind of stupid stuff saying how much it sucked when compared with the Latin Version as a result the Spanish guys attacked back and now you can see hundreds of comments a week in such videos or similar cases) full of pure bashing and trolling and cultural agressiveness.

So I'll join in the web singler ass kickin'

[KPTitan]

They have people like that on DeviantArt? That kinda sucks...I'm a member on there, but it's for the sake of posting my art stuff...'cause I'm artsy.:) I haven't quite run into immature members yet, but I think it's because I go where the talent is on that sight, where there's actually some decent comments on people's art.

[Game Freak 4]

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?p=478410
Yeah, I fell for it... again!

As Abridged Joey would say, "BROOKLYN RAGE!!!"

Or, at least where I'm from, "CHICAGO RAGE!!!"

[KCJ506]

It's the anonymity of the internet. They feel all safe behind their computer screens because they know if they ever said that kind of stuff in real life they would get their asses kicked.

It's not just Youtube that's full of these people. Tons of message boards have them. Especially the IMDB boards. That place is the breeding for such people. Those boards are almost unusable now.

[Silverstar]

Another forum chock full o' jerks, creeps and weirdos was TV.com's message boards. That place was a zoo. Most of the people there used the internet's anonymity to be as rude, nasty, perverse and crazy as they could be and saying the kind of off-the-wall crud that in real life would result in them getting a savage beating, or arrested, or committed, or all of the above.

Nothing worse than an jerk who knows you can't hit them.

[Rolling Cloud]

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?p=478410
Yeah, I fell for it... again!

Yep, that board's a perfect example for this thread. >_>

[Bloody Marquis]

Another forum chock full o' jerks, creeps and weirdos was TV.com's message boards. That place was a zoo. Most of the people there used the internet's anonymity to be as rude, nasty, perverse and crazy as they could be and saying the kind of off-the-wall crud that in real life would result in them getting a savage beating, or arrested, or committed, or all of the above.
To be fair, that site did have some civil, reasonable people around. The only problem was that the users that you described were free to do whatever they wished without interference from competent moderators.

[Spideyzilla]

One time a Superhero Hype article's reponses turned nasty, saying how they hate us people from Canada. It was an article on The Dark Knight, I believe.

:confused: Draw your own conclusions. And yes, You Tube is full of jerks who use profanity more often than the word "the".

[chdr]

I think the comments on "____ SUCKS NOW" videos on Youtube contain half the world's stupidity in them.

[Darklordavaitor]

I think the comments on "____ SUCKS NOW" videos on Youtube contain half the world's stupidity in them.
Agreed. I love how you can't watch a Judas Priest video without seeing an arguement about Iron Maiden in it's comments.

[Game Freak 4]

Another forum chock full o' jerks, creeps and weirdos was TV.com's message boards. That place was a zoo. Most of the people there used the internet's anonymity to be as rude, nasty, perverse and crazy as they could be and saying the kind of off-the-wall crud that in real life would result in them getting a savage beating, or arrested, or committed, or all of the above.

Nothing worse than an jerk who knows you can't hit them.
I don't know. I thought the site was well balenced, or did I miss something?

[Daxdiv]

I don't know. I thought the site was well balenced, or did I miss something?

I don't know, any site that calls Naruto the best anime ever, I'll shy away.

[Silverstar]

I don't know. I thought (TV.com's forums) were well balanced, or did I miss something?

I guess it depended on which forum(s) you visited. The ones I was on (Justice League, Teen Titans, Loonatics Unleashed, W.I.T.C.H., Winx Club and especially the General Animation forums) did have some intelligent, rational, human posters, but most of the people on them were just snotty kids, spammers and weirdos. The General Animation forum in particular was dangerously unbalanced; the normal person to freak ratio was something like 5 to 1. They would just go off on you at the slightest provocation, spam the boards and try to ram their narrow-minded opinions down everyone's throats, while the so-called moderators would just sit on their hands and let the savages run wild.

[Darklordavaitor]

I don't know. I thought the site was well balenced, or did I miss something?
Yep, you missed nearly all of the good members of the Animation board leaving tv.com nearly for dead and joining the Animation Revelation. Around the time Foggle and I made our board, the site was heading toward the worst, where we could hardly hi-jack anymore threads for intelligent discussion! Looking at what it's become now, we left at the right time, and the Star Bros' leaving the site will always of left a big impact over there.

I think only IMDB and RetroJunk top tv.com as biggest n00b central, but the latter's another story for another day.

[Game Freak 4]

Yep, you missed nearly all of the good members of the Animation board leaving tv.com nearly for dead and joining the Animation Revelation. Around the time Foggle and I made our board, the site was heading toward the worst, where we could hardly hi-jack anymore threads for intelligent discussion! Looking at what it's become now, we left at the right time, and the Star Bros' leaving the site will always of left a big impact over there.

I think only IMDB and RetroJunk top tv.com as biggest n00b central, but the latter's another story for another day.
Oh! Well, I don't go to TV.com much, anyway.

Ugh. Another problem I have with anime fanfreaks is that when bring up wrong infomation and not bother to even care if they were incorrect.

1. When they mention how bad an anime dub is, they blame the wrong people. Like when they bash 4Kids(as usual), they mention Cardcaptor Sakura and Naruto. Look, the dubs were horrible compare to the originals , yes, but don't blame 4Kids for them. Theye were dubbed by Nelvana and Viz Media.

2. When they mention their hatred for American Cartoons and how inferior they are to Japanese Anime and how America rips off with their "American Anime," they mention cartoons that were NOT made in America. "For the last time, the Winx Club is an ITALIAN CARTOON!"
And a quote from an anime fan.



"CardCaptors" is the reason why, if I had MY way, it'd be illegal WORLDWIDE to dub anime for TV (DVD is no problem - at least you have the option of selecting original Japanese or dubbed English soundtrack)- and what Nelvana did to an already perfect series is worse than murder, treason, or any other heinous crime IMO. An old saying springs to mind:

'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'.

Nelvana, 4Kids & other Western licencees* would do well to remember that, next time they purchase an anime series & think of dubbing it (or even BUTCHER it by editing out just ONE frame of an episode, or alter the episode sequence). As for the argument that 'People can't read subtitles & enjoy what's happening at the same time', I DON'T CARE! LEARN to read subtitles! Finally, to the naysayers & general pooh-poohers of undubbed (but subtitled) anime, I have just three words that'll completely destroy your argument:

"Mew Mew Power".

I rest my case.

*- They can do what they damn well like to "Naruto", "One Piece" & their ilk - I'm not interested in such.

Again, CHICAGO RAGE!!!

(I want your opinion, What did you think about the horrible dub of Cardcaptor Sakura?)

[Daxdiv]

1. When they mention how bad an anime dub is, they blame the wrong people. Like when they bash 4Kids(as usual), they mention Cardcaptor Sakura and Naruto. Look, the dubs were horrible compare to the originals , yes, but don't blame 4Kids for them. Theye were dubbed by Nelvana and Viz Media.


This is why this is my favorite video ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3gxD53b4I) I like to use this video whenever someone brings that up, too bad, I feel bad for what I put the video creator through.

[KPTitan]

This is why this is my favorite video ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3gxD53b4I) I like to use this video whenever someone brings that up, too bad, I feel bad for what I put the video creator through.

"Naruto's a children's show." He should try and preach that to the parents who are strict about what their children watch and apply their moral standards on that subject.:sweat: Even though I'm of age, I really can't stand watching anime that's above Pokemon, any other anime above Pokemon is too violent for me.

[Daxdiv]

"Naruto's a children's show." He should try and preach that to the parents who are strict about what their children watch and apply their moral standards on that subject.:sweat: Even though I'm of age, I really can't stand watching anime that's above Pokemon, any other anime above Pokemon is too violent for me.

In Tsukento defense, he has mentioned the cultural gap time and time again to many people, hell he's already been attacked by 2 people who he made public, thought the 4kids dub of One Piece were perfect before FUNi got their hands on, and made 2 videos on it, all because of his incomplete series. I mean that one part where he brought up the game rating system in America and Japan, and using Brawl as a prime example of how CERO and ESRB are different to me shows how we look at violence, no matter how cartoon like it is.

[Game Freak 4]

In Tsukento defense, he has mentioned the cultural gap time and time again to many people, hell he's already been attacked by 2 people who he made public, thought the 4kids dub of One Piece were perfect before FUNi got their hands on, and made 2 videos on it, all because of his incomplete series. I mean that one part where he brought up the game rating system in America and Japan, and using Brawl as a prime example of how CERO and ESRB are different to me shows how we look at violence, no matter how cartoon like it is.
You really thought that? Then again agin, I didn't mind the dub of Cardcaptor Sakura.

Another fan Quote.

I dont like Old/Outdated Anime. Even if the story is good, I'll just ignore it. I'll feel like a grandma if I watch those "wrinkled" shows.

I got spoiled by the Anime today. I simply cant go back, its a disgrace to go back IMO.

Dont blame me! BLAME the YEAR 2000+ ANIME.http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.global/smilies/naughty.gif

If you like watching old ANIME, then good for you. Everyone have different tastes when it comes to Anime.
Are you serious?!

[Daxdiv]

You really thought that? Then again agin, I didn't mind the dub of Cardcaptor Sakura.

Thought what? I thought that the 4kids dub of One Piece was the worst dub to come out of the year 2000. Luffy screamed at every line, even lines that had no yelling in the original, Not a big fan of that Voice for Nami, Usopp sounded like he had been kicked in the balls, Sanji years of chain smoking caught up to him, Chopper's voice changed in every form, Robin had a southern accent for no explained reason. I'm just glad I didn't see what they did to Franky. Zoro/Zolo was the only redeeming point, his only bad part was him making too many puns.

[Game Freak 4]

Thought what? I thought that the 4kids dub of One Piece was the worst dub to come out of the year 2000. Luffy screamed at every line, even lines that had no yelling in the original, Not a big fan of that Voice for Nami, Usopp sounded like he had been kicked in the balls, Sanji years of chain smoking caught up to him, Chopper's voice changed in every form, Robin had a southern accent for no explained reason. I'm just glad I didn't see what they did to Franky. Zoro/Zolo was the only redeeming point, his only bad part was him making too many puns.
Oh sorry. Misread you.

[Game Freak 4]

I may have found one of the biggest thorns in the rose that sprouted from YouTube. He is the combination of what I dispise with a passion, an anime freak AND an nostagic freak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YNSaAnWPJw

Also, this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWGoCAix3GU

Once again, CHICAGO RAGE!!!

[Aclaim]

The day that you are not anonymous anymore, is the day that these internet tough guys won't dare to even post. But I could be wrong. There could still be a few. And speaking of being anonymous, it isn't completely so. Any and every post can be traced and your IP Address can be traced to find out your general location. Someone can even find out where you live:eek: Most of these people don't think that they can be traced, which is why they do it.

[KPTitan]

I may have found one of the biggest thorns in the rose that sprouted from YouTube. He is the combination of what I dispise with a passion, an anime freak AND an nostagic freak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YNSaAnWPJw

This video kinda confuses me. One point he's saying that there's no point in comparing American cartoons and Japanese anime because everybody has their own opinion, then he switches over to saying that anime is 1000 times better than American cartoons. I wasn't too happy 'bout the "80's American cartoons suck" comment he made though. In other words he's bashing the good cartoons like Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers, Ducktales, and Talespin.


Also, this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWGoCAix3GU

I kinda agree with him on that one...but just a tiny bit. Not EVERYONE in the U.S. is like that, but a good portion of it though.


Once again, CHICAGO RAGE!!!

LOL, I've seen you post that alot. What's Chicago Rage, if you don't mind me asking?;)

[Daxdiv]

LOL, I've seen you post that alot. What's Chicago Rage, if you don't mind me asking?;)

It his take on Joey Wheeler line from Yu-Gi-Oh the Abridged Series, BROOKLYN RAGE. The line so popular they made a shirt and the VA for Joey in the English dub, Wanye Grayson said that this was his favorite line even though he never said it in YGO. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjyPN0cMLok)

[Radical Raven]

I once saw a video on youtube that a girl has posted that showed her spending time with her mentally challenged brother. It was very sweet and I was almost moved to tears by some of the scenes.

Then I scrolled down and read the comments....

These people do not deserve the gift of life:mad: .

[Darklordavaitor]

"ThrashAngelCorpse. What a f-word-ing numpty."

"Sure bloak we'll go have shepards pie and a pinte of O'Darby's finest champange with the knights of the round in King Arthurs Court."

"ThrashAngelCorpse. Typical stupid C-word.Hiding behind a computer. Come over to England and call me a fagot if you think you're hard enough."

"Where do you get off calling me a Yankee you f-word-en d-word swallower. I saw Priest before you were f-word-n born too, d-word. Check who you are sending comments to before you click. You call yourself a Canadian and you attack a Canadian out of the blue who was defending Halford. F-word you must be stupid. Lay off the meth and read a book once in a while. You must be a f-word-en paki or something."

"US Military Blows, You Yankees Got Your heads way to far up your a-word"

Censored for your will. And from a Judas Priest video, no less. Yep, YouTube comments are terrible.

[Spideyzilla]

In a film on Youtube about the 9/11 Jumpers :crying: one person said the FDNY weren't heroes because they didn't save these people. I clenched my fists when I read that. They are heroes. More than that person is, more than anyone. I won't get into what other users posted. It shocked me that people could say these things.:(

[Blackstar]

In a film on Youtube about the 9/11 Jumpers :crying: one person said the FDNY weren't heroes because they didn't save these people. I clenched my fists when I read that. They are heroes. More than that person is, more than anyone. I won't get into what other users posted. It shocked me that people could say these things.:(

Some people just say offensive, hateful, insensitive things because they think that they're safe hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. Half of the time, it's just shock for the sake of shock value alone. Many of them wouldn't have the grapefruits to be so offensive if they could be identified.

[Game Freak 4]

I once saw a video on youtube that a girl has posted that showed her spending time with her mentally challenged brother. It was very sweet and I was almost moved to tears by some of the scenes.

Then I scrolled down and read the comments....

These people do not deserve the gift of life:mad: .
Someone said it. Why are these people allowed to live, anyway?

Do you have a link to this video?



This video kinda confuses me. One point he's saying that there's no point in comparing American cartoons and Japanese anime because everybody has their own opinion, then he switches over to saying that anime is 1000 times better than American cartoons. I wasn't too happy 'bout the "80's American cartoons suck" comment he made though. In other words he's bashing the good cartoons like Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers, Ducktales, and Talespin.

It gets worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geEUmPL0Qeo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDvX902pwe4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE6O-2Ps0jY&feature=related

And this for some reason,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGlYnRQQAvE&feature=related

[KPTitan]

Someone said it. Why are these people allowed to live, anyway?

Do you have a link to this video?


It gets worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geEUmPL0Qeo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDvX902pwe4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE6O-2Ps0jY&feature=related

And this for some reason,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGlYnRQQAvE&feature=related

Honestly, if he LOVES Japan and anime so much, then he should move there. I get the strange feeling that he's gonna become one of those people who are anti-American terrorists or something...

For a guy who's 25, he need to get a life. He even confessed to "wasting 90 minutes of his life watching crapy American cartoons". It's hard to believe that mature, or supposedly mature adults like him obssess over cartoons that way. Don't get me wrong, I still like watching cartoons and even do a little fanart/fanfiction here and there, but I don't go all out obssessive about it and make stupid videos on the matter.:shrug: