South Park - "The China Probrem" - Talkback

[garfield15]

Well, its October 8th and you know what that means...Really you don't? Oh well that means it's time to finish off the latest season of South Park.

In tonight's episode


Cartman must confront the Chinese alone while the American people are haunted by the memory of recent tragic events.

No idea what's gonna happen (unless I read the article at wiki, but I don't want to) So let's discuss.

[DarthGonzo]

Wait...new South Parks already??

Wow, that snuck up on me.

[chdr]

According to the previews, somebody gets raped :ack:

[garfield15]

Wait...new South Parks already??

Wow, that snuck up on me.

Really? They've been advertising it for a while now


According to the previews, somebody gets raped :ack:

Meh, its South Park what else is new?

[Draft]

Wait...new South Parks already??

Wow, that snuck up on me.

second

i didn't think that new episodes were for at least 2 weeks

guess ill actually have to watch tv tonight..

I thought tonight was the bank episode, i guess they'll bump that to the season finallie with all the new developments to make it funnier..

[DarthGonzo]

Really? They've been advertising it for a while now

I don't watch Comedy Central otherwise.


Meh, its South Park what else is new?

Exactly.

[ChokeyChicken]

second

i didn't think that new episodes were for at least 2 weeks

guess ill actually have to watch tv tonight..

I thought tonight was the bank episode, i guess they'll bump that to the season finallie with all the new developments to make it funnier..

What bank episode?

[garfield15]

And here we go.

"you know, you have to tell Cartman he's rascist or something?"

[DarthGonzo]

Why do all these South Park episodes feel like the same thing over and over again? Cartman is a damn racist and Butters is along for the ride. Haven't seen that before.

But the Indiana Jones nightmare was pretty funny.

[Tobias]

... Well, now we know how they felt about the new Indy Jones movie. :p

[Don_East]

... Well, now we know how they felt about the new Indy Jones movie. :p
Took the words right out of my mouth. I like how Butters said it was good.

OT: Sarah Silverman got renewed? UGH!

[garfield15]

Okay, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas raping Indy was kinda funny.

[OtakuX]

But... i liked KotCS. It was almost the best of the series. then again, i hated Temple and Last Crusade...

[DarthGonzo]

LOL like a bunch of 8 years-olds are going to care how a character like Indiana Jones is treated, right?

[TnAdct1]

Just as I feared: the "rape" storyline isn't that funny (besides, didn't Trey and Matt already mocked Lucas and Spielburg "raping" Indiana Jones a few seasons ago?).

[DarthGonzo]

Just as I feared: the "rape" storyline isn't that funny (besides, didn't Trey and Matt already mocked Lucas and Spielburg "raping" Indiana Jones a few seasons ago?).

Yes they did, and considering this movie came out months ago I wonder why they couldn't have come up with something a little more interesting than whining and moaning about something like this.

Feel good getting this off your chests, Matt and Trey? Because no one really cares.

[Bloody Marquis]

Yeah... I didn't think Indy 4 was that bad. It was actually a little bit good. So I can't help but think that this isn't funny.

[OtakuX]

George Lucas raping Indiana Jones on a Howard the Duck Pinball Machine... Ow, my brain...

[garfield15]

Oh god, don't you know that shooting a guy in the balls is like the worst thing to do in the world.

Dang he did it twice.

[Dudley]

Why won't Cartman just take the gun from Butters?
The gag is kinda forced.

[DarthGonzo]

Yeah... I didn't think Indy 4 was that bad. It was actually a little bit good. So I can't help but think that this isn't funny.

This isn't funny. I'm not shocked or offended by any of this, but Steven Spielberg and George Lucas raping Indiana Jones just...isn't funny. I didn't see Crystal Skull but still...is this necessary?

And the Cartman plot is so tired. I used to adore this show. Now I'm wondering why I even turning it on tonight.

And these overlong video game previews aren't helping. But if this is what the average South Park audience is into these days who am I to judge?

[MagicBox]

Anybody else but me finding it really hard to care about the Cartman/Butters subplot? It keeps taking screentime away from the more interesting (IMO) Indiana Jones story and I haven't really laughed at it yet.

Although I am kinda mad because I haven't seen Indy 4 yet and I'm afraid I might've been a little spoiled just now. Aliens? What?

[Space Cadet]

This isn't funny. I'm not shocked or offended by any of this, but Steven Spielberg and George Lucas raping Indiana Jones just...isn't funny. I didn't see Crystal Skull but still...is this necessary?

And the Cartman plot is so tired. I used to adore this show. Now I'm wondering why I even turning it on tonight.

And these overlong video game previews aren't helping. But if this is what the average South Park audience is into these days who am I to judge?

So, I'm guessing even The Simpsons and Family Guy season premieres is better than this so far?:p

[TnAdct1]

Although I am kinda mad because I haven't seen Indy 4 yet and I'm afraid I might've been a little spoiled just now. Aliens? What? Well, there's still plenty of material to be spoiled (if Trey and Matt don't say it first).

[MagicBox]

Actually, I take it back. The Indy plot isn't entertaining anymore. It's just rape fantasy after rape fantasy after rape fantasy. Boring.

EDIT: The Stormtrooper running away shouting made me laugh for some reason.

[garfield15]

Ow Ow, a stormtrooper, my brain, ooooowwww.

[DarthGonzo]

Actually, I take it back. The Indy plot isn't entertaining anymore. It's just rape fantasy after rape fantasy after rape fantasy. Boring.

Seriously. Just because you can do something like that (because honestly, Matt and Trey can do anything they damn well please on this show by now) doesn't mean you should.

And they shouldn't have.

[SirLemming]

Did anyone else notice they're definitely framing the episodes for widescreen now? There was one part where you couldn't even really see Stan talking because he was just off the side of the screen. They must be future-proofing the show for HD.

Other than that... not much to talk about. It was a chuckler.

[Railith]

The Indy 4 part is great and the Cartman part is meh.

[Nel]

Wow. What a crappy premiere. Neither plot was funny and I didn't need to see rape scene after rape scene. Better luck next week, SP.

[TnAdct1]

The Indy 4 part is great and the Cartman part is meh. No, it's the other way around (although the Cartman part really wasn't THAT great).

[Space Cadet]

Yeah, this wasn't a good episode. Matt and Trey wanted to make an episode that combined the burgeoning economy of China and their opinions of Indy 4. Yet, it seemed like during the process of coming up with an actual story, they were like "Hey, we can't really think of anything good to link the two together. So, we'll just string some jokes together and hope things turn out for the best."

The rape scenes were more weird/disturbing than funny(although the storm trooper scene and the look on Lucas face when he was raping Indy on the pinball machine made me chuckle) and the whole China plot just fell flat.

Not a good start to the season. The "Cartman has AIDS" episode was a much better season opener than this.

[Tobias]

Not the best premiere. It kind of lost steam after the intitial revelation of *who* got raped. But every batch has it's bad episode. Last time it was 'Britney's New Look' and the rest of the batch was near perfect. So hopefully this is this half's bad apple and the rest will be great.

[Sam Hill]

The penis shooting joke got old really fast. They should have only did it once or not at all.

[ChokeyChicken]

Actually, I take it back. The Indy plot isn't entertaining anymore. It's just rape fantasy after rape fantasy after rape fantasy. Boring.

EDIT: The Stormtrooper running away shouting made me laugh for some reason.

Yeah that made me laugh too. As for this episode um well actually I enjoyed it! Well it's been so long since we've had new South Park and I was just glad to see something new. I never saw the new Indiana Jones movie but was it really that bad? Well I can at least say I didn't see it coming. Some people thought the rape was metaphorical for something else but watching the preview clip made me think it was an actual rape. I thought it'd be one of their friends from school, but Indiana? lol. As for the Butters/Cartman plot, it was ok I suppose. A few funny lines and stuff but could've been better.

Overall an ok premiere for South Park! Let's see what they give us next week.

[MagicBox]

It was pretty meh-ish. The stormtrooper running away made me laugh, the revelation of who was raped was pretty funny, and the first time Butters shot a guy in the dick got an "Ouch!" reaction from me, before Cartman acknowledged it and ran the joke into the ground of course. That's about it for this week. Strange, I was actually entertained by the past seasons that everybody hated, but this one was a huge step down.

So basically, Matt & Trey thought of a dick-shooting joke and an Indy-4-sucked joke, and tried to stretch it out to a full episode. Not a good start to the season.

This got me thinking. When was the last time we had a good, old fashioned character oriented episode? Y'know, with just the kids being themselves. And not the, y'know, "Matt & Trey feel like complaining about something" episodes. I'm thinking it was "Fun With Weapons," but I might be wrong.

[Nightwing]

Meh, its South Park what else is new?

I'm thinking of my visit to Itchy & Scratchy Land when Bart and Lisa contemplated whether or not they're desensitized to the violence.


No, it's the other way around (although the Cartman part really wasn't THAT great).

lol, every other post's opinion is the other way around. I've got it worse than any of you, because quite frankly this fence is chaifing me. I thought the Indy part was nice and South Park, but I didn't really think it was necessary. I figure the boys consider it a big deal because the origins of said boys (guys in their 30s/40s who grew up with Indy) wanted to have their voices heard. Plus, the reason that part felt "South Park" is, as stated above, because we've kinda sorta seen it before.

The Cartman stuff was excellent. Cartman has to be equally racist for all races, and I never saw the Chinese angle from him (and Butters!! Best part!!) this good. And honestly, the whole subplot was worth it for not only the "I learned something today" line, BUT that the line came from Cartman.

One thing I think is important to note, though, is after 12 years of this show and it's crazy hijinx and violence, shouldn't a rule like that shoot-a-guy one be important enough to be established oh I don't know many many seasons ago?

lol!! The commercial for Indy4 on DVD is on during Sarah Silverman. Neat.

[Luna]

Well,all I really got out of this episode was that Matt and Trey didn't like the latest Indiana Jones movie (I've never even seen the first three all the way through,though my brothers are fans of the series)....
I didn't think the whole "rape" thing with Spielburg,Lucas,and Indy was funny (maybe if I was a fan of the series it would be,but I'm not)...
and the subplot with Cartman and Butters was just lame (the two of them teaming up's been done better in other episodes)....

Hopefully,next week's episode is better....

[Master Moron]

This isn't funny. I'm not shocked or offended by any of this, but Steven Spielberg and George Lucas raping Indiana Jones just...isn't funny. I didn't see Crystal Skull but still...is this necessary?


I feel the same way, only I haven't seen ANY of the Indiana Jones movies. Really the whole thing seems stupid. I mean, isn't Indiana Jones a character that was made for movies? I mean, he's not based on a comic book or TV show or anything, is he? I don't see how they can rape the character when he's an original character.

[SSJ Jake]

Yeah, this episode sucked. Aside from the rape scenes, it just wasn't funny at all. And honestly, I can understand them disliking KotCS, though I personally enjoyed it, but I kinda felt like it was months behind. I would have preferred an episode satirizing a more recent event, like the Large Hadron Collider controversy.

On a side note, was there a brief Isaac Hayes tribute at the beginning? My power briefly went out the minute the episode was about to start, so I wouldn't know.

[Master Moron]

Actually, I take it back. The Indy plot isn't entertaining anymore. It's just rape fantasy after rape fantasy after rape fantasy. Boring.

EDIT: The Stormtrooper running away shouting made me laugh for some reason.

Was the storm trooper scene a jab at Clone Wars?


George Lucas raping Indiana Jones on a Howard the Duck Pinball Machine... Ow, my brain...

I noticed the DA was playing Willow. Was there actually a Willow arcade game? I know there was an NES game.

[Bloody Marquis]

Overall, I didn't really like the episode. The whole Indy plot just felt too much like a petty fanboy rant instead of a reasonable critique of that movie.

But still, the opening scene with the Beijing Olympics Ceremony looked pretty good.

[SirLemming]

This got me thinking. When was the last time we had a good, old fashioned character oriented episode? Y'know, with just the kids being themselves. And not the, y'know, "Matt & Trey feel like complaining about something" episodes. I'm thinking it was "Fun With Weapons," but I might be wrong.
The previous episode (Super Fun Time) was kinda like that. Otherwise I'd refer to season 11's "The List", which was so old-school that Kenny got killed and Stan threw up.

[Nightwing]

I noticed the DA was playing Willow. Was there actually a Willow arcade game? I know there was an NES game.

I can't remember well enough to say I remember, but that reminds me of something. I'm trying to figure out the Indy rape scenes. First I thought that each one was simply how said character in the story saw it happen in his mind, and then I was also wondering if they were parodies of rape scenes that were in movies. Then I felt like it was both.

[BlackoutCreature]

Yeah, after watching this episode I gotta say I think its time for South Park to wrap things up. It's just not funny with any consistency anymore. I think the best thing to do is cancel it as a regular series and run specials every so often.

[SirLemming]

I can't remember well enough to say I remember, but that reminds me of something. I'm trying to figure out the Indy rape scenes. First I thought that each one was simply how said character in the story saw it happen in his mind, and then I was also wondering if they were parodies of rape scenes that were in movies. Then I felt like it was both.
On another forum people were talking about what each scene was a parody of. I remember hearing "The Accused" and "Deliverance".

[DarthGonzo]

On another forum people were talking about what each scene was a parody of. I remember hearing "The Accused" and "Deliverance".

The "hillbilly" scene was definitely Deliverance.

[TnAdct1]

I noticed the DA was playing Willow. Was there actually a Willow arcade game? I know there was an NES game. Yes, Capcom (the company that made the Willow NES game) also made a Willow arcade game.

[v1cious]

i got the new Indiana Jones recently, and now i'm not even sure if i wanna watch it any more.

[Hyper Shadow X]

This was wrong on so many levels.

[Joe]

Is it just me, or was this very similar to "Passion of the Jew"?

It got funnier as I watched, but I think the general stupidity of both plots just got to me. The Indy plot was too one note after it was revealed who the victim was and the Cartman plot didn't really go anywhere after everone is held at gunpoint. I did like Cartman's closing speech though. I really don't think this one will hold up to repeated viewings.

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Originally posted by Master Moron
I feel the same way, only I haven't seen ANY of the Indiana Jones movies. Really the whole thing seems stupid. I mean, isn't Indiana Jones a character that was made for movies? I mean, he's not based on a comic book or TV show or anything, is he? I don't see how they can rape the character when he's an original character.

Well actually Indiana Jones was created by George Lucas (based on action serial starts of 1930 movies) to star in the Indiana Jones movies from the 1980's. So in essance George and Steve actually created the character and technically do own him. So it's not so much as it is rape as it is molesting your own "child" for some reason. Based on this and "Free Hat" I get the idea though that not only do Matt and Trey dislike whatever George and Steven have done to the Indiana and Star Wars franchise, they also think they shouldn't be doing anything else with it, feeling they have lost they're creative vision and are now just terrible and are just ruining they're own work. Really it's like fanboys clamoring that they know better then the creative staff. Not only is it ironic that we do the same back to Matt and Trey but also that this kind of stuff can be funny. If presented in the right way. Which this episode didn't really do to well treally...


Was the storm trooper a jab at Clone Wars?

Yeah. Guess Matt and Trey at least heard about that movie. Would of liked to see what they thought about it besides it being more rape violation or something.


Oirignally posted by SSJ Jake
On a side note, was there a brief Isaac Hayes tribute at the beginning? My power briefly went out the minute the episode was about to start, so I wouldn't know.

No they did not really. Just the end of "Make Love Not Warcraft", the credits and teaser for the next ep, the warning sign, the opening, and then the big ads for the new video games coming out mixed with regular ads followed by the ep. No Issac Hayes Tribute unless it was like a milasecond long that couldn't be seen by the regular eye anyway.

Matt and Trey may hate Seth MacFarlane for doing stories where a majority of the plots don't relate to the actual story, but it's not like they're recent examples of mixing plots and stories have all been slam dunks. Espically the plots that only contain three jokes repeated again and again. Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull being the rape victim was pretty funny the first time (and I really did like that movie when it came out. I don't care if that makes me a Butters. It was good and I know other Indy fans liked it as well) but seeing it over and over again wasn't too funny even in the weird circumstances Lucas and Speilburg put Indy in. (Really did we need to have a Deliverarnce gag with this plot? Answer me that Matt and Trey) I think we should of actually just seen more of them ripping apart the movie if they disliked it so much. Yeah talking about the fridge gag and the third act not flowing so well and aliens was a start but really showing more why you hate it would of been funnier. Like in the rape scenes if Shia Le Bauf was joining them and saying "come on Pops don't you want to give me that hat now?" or something. Or do more jokes about other stuff Matt and Trey feel was raped like the new Clone Wars movie. On the same token the whole Butters/Cartman plot just felt like another excuse to get Butters and Cartman together under the notion that it's wrong to try and stand for what's right if you embarass yourself with the whole d*** shooting, another one of those jokes that got old like the third time they did it. Really it was funnier when they were just imitating Chinese poorly but doing another hostage thing felt pretty well done before. "La Petite Tourette" was also kind of a weak mid season opener but this really stood out as something that they should of worked on more, espically if they were hating on the movie the entire summer and this is the only thing they could really say about it.

[Storm Eagle]

I laughed whenever Cartman would yell at Butters for shooting guys in the penis, but the Indiana Jones rape scenes were just stupid in my opinion. Someone told me that if I had seen the movies that they were referencing in the rape scenes, then I'd think they were funny. I'm thinking that this guy is referring to Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and the Star Wars movies. If he is, then I might just have to check out the fourth IJ movie. However, I've seen all the Star Wars movies, and I doubt I'd like and appreciate the rape scenes more, even after seeing the fourth IJ movie.

[Ultra8]

Wow, pretty twisted for a season premier.
Loved the Beijing Olympic Opening very nice homage plus anything that freaks/messes with cartman is funny in my book.:D :D

[Storm Eagle]

Wow, pretty twisted for a season premier.


Actually, this episode is just resuming a season already in progress. It didn't start it.

[Peter Paltridge]

Bleah.

I hope this isn't an indicator of how the rest of the season will go. Or even an indicator South Park's second wind is gone.

[HomeMoviesFan]

Bleah.

I hope this isn't an indicator of how the rest of the season will go. Or even an indicator South Park's second wind is gone.

The only good news I can dish out is that for the last few runs, the premiere has always been a mediocre episode, with the terrific episodes yet to air. The last premiere I remember truly enjoying was "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" (spring '07)...

[Sam Hill]

The only good news I can dish out is that for the last few runs, the premiere has always been a mediocre episode, with the terrific episodes yet to air. The last premiere I remember truly enjoying was "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" (spring '07)...

I have to disagree. "The Return of Chef" was the first episode of season 10 and, in my opinion, was probably the best of the whole lot. "Make Love, Not Warcraft" began the second half of the season during the fall and that was also a strong episode.

[Desensitized]

The only good news I can dish out is that for the last few runs, the premiere has always been a mediocre episode, with the terrific episodes yet to air. The last premiere I remember truly enjoying was "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" (spring '07)...Weird, that was the only premiere of the last few that I haven't cared for.

This was about average. Nothing too special here.

[Comics_the_QB]

Now I wanna see how they made-fun of Indy 4.

(I liked it though :sad:)

[Tobias]

This is one of the downsides of waiting until the 11th hour to do the actual episode. I think Trey & Matt waited until the last possible second, and just pulled the first plot they thought of and put it into the episode.

Maybe they just did a mediocre episode while working on a *real* special episode, like another 2 or 3 parter. We're due for another one of those this season.

[SirLemming]

Someone told me that if I had seen the movies that they were referencing in the rape scenes, then I'd think they were funny. I'm thinking that this guy is referring to Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and the Star Wars movies. If he is, then I might just have to check out the fourth IJ movie. However, I've seen all the Star Wars movies, and I doubt I'd like and appreciate the rape scenes more, even after seeing the fourth IJ movie.
I'm not sure if you're being serious or not -- either way, that person was most likely referring to the movies that had the original rape scenes which were being parodied.

[HarlinSchmoo]

I think it's ironic that SP blasted family guy for being centered on pop culture, when now it seems they have entire episodes devoted to Guitar hero and Britney Spears. As far as Indie, seems quite a bit dated, I mean that was in may and it is currently October. I think most people have just forgotten that embarrassment of a film.

[chdr]

I didn't think Indy 4 was that bad...

Anyways, this was an okay episode. At least it wasn't as bad as Over Logging, which was awful, one of the worst SP episodes to date.

[dth1971]

Steven Spielberg and George Lucas arrested for raping?

And no "In memory of Issac "Chef" Hayes" tacked in at the end.

Even South Park has its own P.F. Chang's!

Even the commercial breaks were all previews for 3 new video games.

[SirLemming]

I think it's ironic that SP blasted family guy for being centered on pop culture
Erm, not really. They blasted FG for constantly doing jokes that had nothing to do with the main plot of the episode.

when now it seems they have entire episodes devoted to Guitar hero and Britney Spears.
It's no different than when they used to do episodes about Barbara Streisand and Star Wars Special Edition. Aside from the early episodes, which were more about establishing the town and characters, the show has long dealt with pop culture moreso than just about any other scripted comedy. It's usually part of the story, though.

[Master Moron]

Well actually Indiana Jones was created by George Lucas (based on action serial starts of 1930 movies) to star in the Indiana Jones movies from the 1980's. So in essance George and Steve actually created the character and technically do own him. So it's not so much as it is rape as it is molesting your own "child" for some reason. Based on this and "Free Hat" I get the idea though that not only do Matt and Trey dislike whatever George and Steven have done to the Indiana and Star Wars franchise, they also think they shouldn't be doing anything else with it, feeling they have lost they're creative vision and are now just terrible and are just ruining they're own work. Really it's like fanboys clamoring that they know better then the creative staff. Not only is it ironic that we do the same back to Matt and Trey but also that this kind of stuff can be funny. If presented in the right way. Which this episode didn't really do to well treally...


Yeah, but the Raiders of the Lost arc ep made sense, because they were actually changing the original film, hence a rape analogy would have made sense, but Kingdom of the Chrystal Skull is an original movie. How are they raping anything? I mean, someone might say Joel Schumacher raped Batman in making Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, but that's because those movies are based on comic books. How can they say George Lucas raped a character that he made by making a new movie with him? I mean, it would be the equivalent of saying Trey Parker and Matt Stone raped South Park.

[Tobias]

One could say they already have with episodes like 'Jakovasaurs' and 'Britney's New Look'.

[warnerbroman]

... Well, now we know how they felt about the new Indy Jones movie. :pafter watching the episodes about Lucas and star wars who didn't see it coming?

[Mynd Hed]

Where was all this rancor when the Star Wars prequels, movies that actually DESERVED it, came out?

I dare anyone to go back and watch Temple of Doom and then look me in the eye and tell me that Crystal Skull was anything but par for the course for an Indy flick. No, it wasn't Shakespeare, but neither were the originals.

[Storm Eagle]

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not -- either way, that person was most likely referring to the movies that had the original rape scenes which were being parodied.

I WAS being serious. What the hell would indicate that I wasn't?

[tb4000]

I do have to disagree with the whole opinions on Indy 4. The alien thing wasn't farfetched, seeing as they've done Holy Grails, Arks filled with demonic face melters, and blood that turns you into a living zombie. OK, now I am sounding like the fanboy they are. :o

[GregX]

Liked the Indy stuff. Didn't like the Cartman stuff.

Of course, I thought Indy 4 was terrible. Matt and Trey's opinion definitely reflected mine, kudos.

[Nightwing]

no "In memory of Issac "Chef" Hayes" tacked in at the end.


I'm sure our guys will keep it classy and do one. They'll just put in on a better episode. When I heard about his death South Park was the first thing I thought of, because the brilliant "Return of Chef" left that window open that ONE DAY Chef would use his brain, follow his heart, and realize Scientology is nutzo and be saved from that Dark Side of the Force.



Even South Park has its own P.F. Chang's!


I didn't know P.F. Chang's existed until Randy mentioned it in regard to his "record." I saw one in the city recently for the first time. It's almost like "Dude! They made a restaurant out of that place from South Park!"

[nakak]

P.F. Changs also made its appearance in episode "Million Little Fibers"

[Vyse]

To anyone who says that doing an Indy 4 joke is dated because the movie came out in May probably have forgotten that the DVD/Blu-ray comes out this Tuesday. And, South Park and Indy 4 are both in the same Paramount/Viacom family...

As for Indy, I am the only person in my family who has not seen Indy 4 because my brother warned me about the plot (mostly the parts dealing with the aliens). Also, I thought they were done with Lucas and Spielberg when they did "Free Hat" (mostly because of, you know, their skin being melted off from viewing the Special Edition of "Raiders Of the Lost Ark"), and I thought that the person who was raped was Butters.


Overall, I thought that this episode was meh. Shocked with all the Indy rape (and Stormtrooper rape), but this ep was the weakest of the season. Mostly because they were repeating the concepts of "Free Hat" but made them more disturbing. Plus, no explaination as to how Lucas and Spielberg came back from the supposed dead with their skin back! :mad:I'm super cereal!

[Bloody Marquis]

Plus, no explaination as to how Lucas and Spielberg came back from the supposed dead with their skin back! :mad:I'm super cereal!

Since when did South Park have continuity? Kenny's been killed tons of times and there's little explanation for him being back.

[JEWCY]

china plot>indy jones

loved when cartman and butters were talking chinese. lol. reason why i watch south park
hello and please-had me lol'ng for 2 minutes afterwards
onlything was missing was city wok lol

[TheVileOne]

Hilarious how people continue to bash South Park while not getting it.

The Family Guy thing was poking at their incredibly random humor and gags unrelated to the story, not being centered on pop culture. Not to mention that they totally nailed it right regarding Family Guy.

Second of all, if you watched the episodes and listen to some of the characters' speeches they aren't really that hateful of Family Guy. The episode was supposed to express more the hypocrisy of network censors and how off they are. This whole Mohammed controversy after that Dutch cartoon strip, when South Park had previously already depicted Muhammed in that religious super friends riff. Where was the Islamic uproar over that? THERE WASN'T ANY! Mohammed was not cut.

I think characters like Kyle, and I think that bartender or a side character said there's nothing wrong with just having some silly comedy shows that don't try to shove a message down your throat every now and again. Then again, as of late Seth McFarlund has quite often used his animation as a soapbox for his liberal political views.

I'm sorry, but South Park making fun of Lucas and Spielberg never gets old. People act like some of these figures are sacred and undeserving of criticism. What's wrong with ridiculing Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?

[DarthGonzo]

I'm sorry, but South Park making fun of Lucas and Spielberg never gets old. People act like some of these figures are sacred and undeserving of criticism. What's wrong with ridiculing Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?

There's nothing wrong with it. I just would prefer to not be smacked in the face by Indiana Jones getting raped for a half hour. I just didn't find it funny and obviously others agree.

I don't see what this has to do with Family Guy. Please don't tell us we "dont get it".

[John Pannozzi]

I was bothered by the fact that Lucas and Spielberg raped Indy in the position a man and a women have sex, not the way two men have sex

[SirLemming]

I don't see what this has to do with Family Guy. Please don't tell us we "dont get it".
Not every post is directed at you, you know. Someone else in this thread criticized this episode for being pop-culture oriented like Family Guy.


I was bothered by the fact that Lucas and Spielberg raped Indy in the position a man and a women have sex, not the way two men have sex
But you can still -- you know what? I'm not going to go there.

[Desensitized]

But you can still -- you know what? I'm not going to go there.Thank you for saying that so I didn't have to. :sweat:

The only thing that bugged me was the 'resolution' to the Cartman plot. Like the 'Passion Of The Jew' episode, it was a bit... Odd. Like they were just looking for a way out.

[Draft]

Wow, this is easily the worst episode of south park ever.

The Indy plot wasn't really funny, only the exsessive crying and how people kept imagine indy getting raped differently saved it from being laughless).

The only funny part in the China plot for me was the introduction, Butters shooting people in their private parts (apparently the actual word is blocked, which makes no sense to me imo), and Cartman leaving at the end

I do like how the show broke the 4th wall quite a few times. That was probably my favorite part of this ep

overall: D-

[warnerbroman]

I was bothered by the fact that Lucas and Spielberg raped Indy in the position a man and a women have sex, not the way two men have sex :eek:how would you know?!:anime:

[btv]

The absolute worst South Park ever.

F

I really hope this isn't going to be a trend of episodes getting lazier and lazier. One laugh came from the second time Butters shot a guy in the crotch, but that was it. Awful, awful episode.

[Xoie]

Excellent episode! I haven't seen the newest Indy movie but I'm sure its good since its a movie so I guess I agree more with Butters. This episode was also good though. However it was particularly pleasing to see Lucas and Spielberg at 'work' heh. Every now and then its good to take the rich and rip them to pieces as they deserve.

[Lazerboy5000]

Total LMAO the entire time. Of course Cartman had to get butters help. And Butters kept shooting people in the dick... LMAO. "Butters, you don't shoot a guy in the dick." Eventually, Cartman lost his cool becuase of that, haha, wow, that was funny.

And the Indiana Jones getting raped thing was also funny. Now I haven't seen the Crystal Skull, just for reference. But each dream was more disturbing than the last... But when they caught Speilberg and Lucas... LMAO, Lucas was raping the Storm Trooper... LMAO... wow, I wasn't expecting that.

Again, a LMAO moment (I was talking to my best friend on Yahoo at the time, and I don't know how many times we said LMAO between the two of us :p ).

[Hordesman]

You know, I wonder if the Indy thing came out of this prequel-era AICN standby: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Raped%20My%20Childhood

The rape scenes certainly struck me as a riff on fan overreaction. Indy 4 wasn't great (I think it would've been awesome if the FBI trailed him the whole movie, for one) but geez... Would've been cooler if they'd finally just made a version of "George Bush and the Glass Tiger" (an Indy take-off they'd planned around the time their Bush show got cancelled) to show what they didn't like about Crystal Skull.

[R. Escobar]

I disagree with you all, I thought this was a great episode, Cartman mocking the Chinese people was gold, and the Indy rape plot was funny for what is was worth

I didn't enjoy this as much as I did La Petit Tourtette, but still a good episode, can't wait to see what they have in store for us next week

SIDE NOTE - That Cult of Cartman DVD looks quite interesting as well