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Antiyonder
10-05-2008, 01:15 AM
For the time being, DC as we know is hesitant to do shows or just cartoons in general without Superman and Batman. But as we see with Legion Of Super Heroes and Teen Titans (including the upcoming Brave And The Bold), team ups are the only option for the moment to expose lesser known characters.

That said, which team up styled shows do you think could work?

I'd go with a Detective Style super hero show featuring adventures of Batman And Elongated Man. Both are detectives of course with one being non powered, while the other one pulled a Plastic Man.

I also think it could work as these two both shared space in Detective Comics during the 1960s. The way I'd go about it would be to have each episode contain two standalone stories each about 15 mins. One featuring Batman, and the other featuring Elongated Man. Every 3rd episode would be a full 22 minute story where both team up for fights/cases too much for either of them.

That said, are there any lesser known heroes that could make for good team up partners for Superman and Batman?

ozymandias
10-05-2008, 03:13 AM
how about a JSA series that could work

Antiyonder
10-05-2008, 03:33 AM
how about a JSA series that could work

You'd have to specify. Because if DC doesn't think that the other big seven of the Justice League could get an audience outside from comic readers, then expecting them to put a JSA show would be a bit of a leap.

The only way it could work would be to implement The JSA versions of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

Dr. Zin
10-05-2008, 04:33 AM
Porting an idea I framed in another thread:

To my mind, the next logical DC animated series is . . . let's call it Future Justice!, extrapolating from the future-era material developed in JLU, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, and to a lesser extent The Zeta Project. We have at least the beginnings of a lineup, including a mix of classic characters, next-gen heroes, and fresh faces. Superman, Bruce Wayne, and Batman are all available for inclusion, providing audience draw, but otherwise the canvas is largely blank and not hampered by existing continuity, so the opportunity for fresh storytelling is considerable.

Depending on the creative team, such a series might or might not be implemented as "officially" a part of the prior Timmverse/DCAU continuity -- certainly there's a vocal segment of fandom that would want it to be, but given the elapsed time and the challenges involved in stitching together some of the background, it might simply be considered a separate or semi-separate franchise, as The Batman was and The Brave & the Bold will be.

The one other possibility might be a direct animated spinoff of Smallville, focusing on the versions of Justice League characters introduced in that version of continuity. That one could conceivably be jumped forward several years from Smallville's own continuity to provide for a Superman in uniform, if need be....

HEATXZ
10-05-2008, 03:12 PM
I think a animated version of JLI would be awesome,We got famous DC heroes(Batman,Wonder Woman,The Flash,Martian Manhunter),other DC Heroes(Metamoprho,Booster Gold,Rocket Red,Mr Miracle,Ice,Blue Beetle,Elongated Man,Animalman) and we have Guy Gardner as the Green Lantern
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/JLI.jpg

Graymonk
10-05-2008, 03:36 PM
There's DC Comics Presents, the Superman equivalent of Brave and the Bold.

As far as teams go, there's Batman and the Outsiders, alternately a team of young heros being trained by Bats, or a black ops team taking on jobs too dirty for the JLA to handle.

And Justice League Task Force, a book where the Martian Manhunter would recruit a new team suited to the needs of each particular mission. Admittedly, They'd have to Supplement J'onn with Bats or Superman.

JAG
10-05-2008, 10:36 PM
And Justice League Task Force, a book where the Martian Manhunter would recruit a new team suited to the needs of each particular mission. Admittedly, They'd have to Supplement J'onn with Bats or Superman.


Isn't that basically what JLU was, though? J'onn teaming up one or more Big Seven members and a few new recruits, with the teams varying depending on the job at hand.

dtemplar
10-06-2008, 02:48 AM
I would say the obvious are JSA, and Batman and the Outsiders.

ROBOTRON
10-06-2008, 03:15 AM
Porting an idea I framed in another thread:

To my mind, the next logical DC animated series is . . . let's call it Future Justice!, extrapolating from the future-era material developed in JLU, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, and to a lesser extent The Zeta Project. We have at least the beginnings of a lineup, including a mix of classic characters, next-gen heroes, and fresh faces. Superman, Bruce Wayne, and Batman are all available for inclusion, providing audience draw, but otherwise the canvas is largely blank and not hampered by existing continuity, so the opportunity for fresh storytelling is considerable.

Depending on the creative team, such a series might or might not be implemented as "officially" a part of the prior Timmverse/DCAU continuity -- certainly there's a vocal segment of fandom that would want it to be, but given the elapsed time and the challenges involved in stitching together some of the background, it might simply be considered a separate or semi-separate franchise, as The Batman was and The Brave & the Bold will be.

I'm with this idea. Lemme call Timm.:sweat:

Antiyonder
10-06-2008, 04:11 AM
Porting an idea I framed in another thread:

To my mind, the next logical DC animated series is . . . let's call it Future Justice!, extrapolating from the future-era material developed in JLU, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, and to a lesser extent The Zeta Project. We have at least the beginnings of a lineup, including a mix of classic characters, next-gen heroes, and fresh faces. Superman, Bruce Wayne, and Batman are all available for inclusion, providing audience draw, but otherwise the canvas is largely blank and not hampered by existing continuity, so the opportunity for fresh storytelling is considerable.

I would like to see such a show as well, but when I mentioned using team up shows to introduce other characters, I meant introducing lesser known DC Heroes to the non comic reading audience. Having plenty of non comic related characters would take away time from helping to give exposure to characters outside The Big Three such as Elongated Man, Atom, Hawkman, Zatanna and Black Canary.

Going with the Outsider's idea, I'd have to say though that if any other writers were to make their own universe to have one show with Superman And The Justice League with the other focusing on Batman And The Outsiders.

Graymonk
10-06-2008, 05:24 AM
Isn't that basically what JLU was, though? J'onn teaming up one or more Big Seven members and a few new recruits, with the teams varying depending on the job at hand.

Yeah, pretty much. But The Batman was basically BTAS and Brave and The Bold sounds a lot like The Batman's final season, so it's not as if Warner Bros is opposed to re-using a successful idea.

JAG
10-06-2008, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Graymonk:
Yeah, pretty much. But The Batman was basically BTAS and Brave and The Bold sounds a lot like The Batman's final season, so it's not as if Warner Bros is opposed to re-using a successful idea.


Yeah, but did Warner Bros. consider JLU to be a successful idea? Given the treatment that CN gave JLU's second and third seasons, I doubt it. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

Antiyonder
10-06-2008, 08:49 PM
Yeah, but did Warner Bros. consider JLU to be a successful idea? Given the treatment that CN gave JLU's second and third seasons, I doubt it. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

Given that JLU got an additional Season (Timm and crew were surprised to be given the go ahead to do 13 more episodes), I think it did well at least. If anything the problem was the lack of reruns the show got.

If you air a show too much, people tire of it (Like when the first season of Justice League was aired too much with a small episode count), but if you don't air it enough the general audience lose interest (JLU in a nutshell).

frostedone
10-06-2008, 11:29 PM
Given that JLU got an additional Season (Timm and crew were surprised to be given the go ahead to do 13 more episodes), I think it did well at least. If anything the problem was the lack of reruns the show got.

If you air a show too much, people tire of it (Like when the first season of Justice League was aired too much with a small episode count), but if you don't air it enough the general audience lose interest (JLU in a nutshell).

MAybe we can get another season then? Third time is a charm right?

Antiyonder
10-06-2008, 11:35 PM
MAybe we can get another season then? Third time is a charm right?

The thing is, aside from a DTV movie which he hopes to do, Timm and company were start to run out of plans and burn out creatively.

Personally, it wasn't even the ending of the show that I found bothersome, but that it didn't have a chance to air in repeats.

Fool's Gil
10-07-2008, 10:18 AM
I've really got into reading up on The Question. (Vic Sage version) Maybe a detective teamup with JLU Question and Batman tackling a city corrupted in all aspects. Question takes care of the day time part, like stealing information, exposing corrupt officials, cops, etc. while Batman takes care of the Supervillains, and all that during the night. They'll rarely work together, but when they do, it'll be something.

Zergrinch
10-18-2008, 09:24 AM
Birds of Prey. Oracle could pretty much hire or contact any hero in the DCU...