DUB only DVD releases for kids anime

[zoombie]

It stinks that shows that inteneded for a younger audiance like Dragonball, Pokemon, at least the shows that are mainstream success in america, never ever have the original versions released on region 1. Because of the different standards for children programmer, they won't release those type of shows in the original uncut version.

I wish they would at least do what Sesame Street has done with their releases for the older episode, put a disclaimer that viewer descretion is adviced, and release a seperate sets for the hardcore fans.

I guess we just have to stick to trading, unfornitely a lot of them aren't subbed, and you have to put up with the network logos, etc. A lot of anime from Japan have a clock on the upper left hand screen.

[Ishtar]

Uhm , Dragon Ball has been released here in it's original version and Uncut, aside from the first 13 episodes.

[zoombie]

Okay one bad example, but it is true for majority of the TV G anime shows, like Pokemon.

[zoombie]

If season sets for both the original and the dub versions of Digimon was released, I would get them all.

[Gokou Ruri]

I see nothing wrong with a dub-only release for any show. (Though I could see why people wouldn't like it) mainly because I prefer to watch foreign shows in my native language. If it heps lower the price and leads to season sets, then I'm all for it (26 episodes of Code Lyoko for 15 bucks?Sign me up.)

[OtakuX]

I hate having to buy some shows, like Pokemon or Sonic X dub only. I don't understand how anyone can stand dub anime.

[kenjisalk]

I see nothing wrong with a dub-only release for any show. (Though I could see why people wouldn't like it) mainly because I prefer to watch foreign shows in my native language. If it heps lower the price and leads to season sets, then I'm all for it (26 episodes of Code Lyoko for 15 bucks?Sign me up.)


Seeing as close caption scripts get made for shows on broadcast television, it's not like it would cost much more to slap in the already existing audio track and already existing caption source code.

I like cheap sets as well as the next guy, but offering alternate language tracks doesn't take much.

[Dark Fact]

I don't lke dub, edit only releases as much as the next guy but when you're dealing with companies that are aiming their product at a specific demographic, you're really not gonna get anywhere. Sure, there are exceptions like Sailor Moon and One Piece which have an enormous fanbase that outnumber the demographic but aside from that, if a company wants to put their foot down on making their releases dub, edit only, you're out of luck. You're just going to have to watch your unedited anime by some other means. :shrug:

[Mandouga]

I wish they would at least do what Sesame Street has done with their releases for the older episode, put a disclaimer that viewer descretion is adviced, and release a seperate sets for the hardcore fans.

(Quoted for emphasis.)

IMO, that wouldn't be fair to anyone. A "viewer discretion" disclaimer would lead people (especially casual/family viewers) to believe that a family-friendly show (in it's original Japanese) was more "adult" than it really is. Separate sets for the fans aren't fair either. Nelvana and Geneon (back when they were Pioneer) did that for Card Captor Sakura (a name I can now say, long story), and ADV did that for Saint Seiya. Personally, I thought it was bad enough that the "everybody else" versions for both shows were dubbed the way they were, but separating the consumers (i.e., one version for the fans, the other for "everybody else") really just made it worse. IMHO, it was (and still is) an insult to anybody's intelligence.

Now before anybody mentions Voltron/Golion and Robotech/Macross, understand that that's a different circumstance (long story, but suffice it to say, they involve older shows that are now "classics"). We're talking about more recent shows here, such as Gash/Zatch Bell, Mega Man Battle Ne.., er "NT Warrior", Mega Man Star Force and even more recently, Blue Dragon; shows that were "adjusted" for "mass market" viewing on a "network".

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to stop here, because to say anymore would go into the "right way" to release a show (whether on TV or direct-to-video), which would take this thread off topic.

[Gokou Ruri]

Seeing as close caption scripts get made for shows on broadcast television, it's not like it would cost much more to slap in the already existing audio track and already existing caption source code. Wouldn't those be the dreaded dubtitles I hear so much about? (Something a lot of fans hate, apparently)

And it probably takes more effort than you think. Licensing costs, disk space, etc.

[Light Lucario]

It stinks that shows that inteneded for a younger audiance like Dragonball, Pokemon, at least the shows that are mainstream success in america, never ever have the original versions released on region 1. Because of the different standards for children programmer, they won't release those type of shows in the original uncut version.

I wish they would at least do what Sesame Street has done with their releases for the older episode, put a disclaimer that viewer descretion is adviced, and release a seperate sets for the hardcore fans.

I guess we just have to stick to trading, unfornitely a lot of them aren't subbed, and you have to put up with the network logos, etc. A lot of anime from Japan have a clock on the upper left hand screen.

For some reason, the image of a box set of Sesame Street episodes from the older days with a disclaimer still leaves me shock. It just feels so weird.

Anyway, I also don't see a problem with dub release only. I'm pretty much in the same boat as Marn Hierogryph with that preference and understanding why some people would be bothered with that at the same time. But I just prefer watching foreign shows in my native language as well so I can have a better time feeling the moments in the series. It's not that I don't like Japanese language or anything like that. I just haven't really connected to the shows I've seen in Japanese as I have in English.

As for the original topic, I honestly don't see why Pokemon fans complain about not getting uncut box sets. For starters, most of the uncut anime box sets are targetted at teenagers and above. Pokemon is targetting kids probably no older than eleven. PUSA and Viz most likely don't want to put all of that money to provide uncut release since they would have to add in any original background music that was taken out and redo lines that were changed in the dub. They're probably content with the sales of the dub DVDs right now. Besides all of that, I don't even think that there is that much of a difference between the dub and the Japanese version of Pokemon to warrent an uncut release. Outside of the background music and some change in dialgoue, I don't think that its that much different from the original version.

[OtakuX]

Pokemon is one of the rare exceptions to my hatred of dubs, mainly because, as a fan of the US released games, I'm familiar with the American names of the Pokemon.

[RomanMack]

Who really wants to see the Japanese version of something like Bakugan, anyways? >_>

[OtakuX]

Who really wants to see the Japanese version of something like Bakugan, anyways? >_>

Well, with edited stuff, there's always curiosity. I'm not familiar with EITHER version of Bakugan, but who knows, maybe the Japanese version is better.

[Tay the Cat]

Who really wants to see the Japanese version of something like Bakugan, anyways? >_>
Excuse me while I go hit my head against a brick wall repeatedly.

I don't understand how anyone can stand dub anime.
Excuse me while I go hit my head against a brick wall repeatedly.

[OtakuX]

Excuse me while I go hit my head against a brick wall repeatedly.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with people liking dubs. I just don't PERSONALLY understand it. I also don't understand how people can like Adam Sandler movies. Doesn't mean those people are wrong.

[Ishtar]

I personally wish the Uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! DVDs would have continued. Even though they had dubtitles, they managed to to stop doing them to an extent when they released volume 3 and the dub was much more accurate to the Japanese version.

[zoombie]

Who really wants to see the Japanese version of something like Bakugan, anyways? >_>

Actully I seen a few episodes of the Japanese version. It is not that bad. You be amased how much different it is. Still it is not something I go out of my way of getting.

Digimon would be a release I would get in a heartbeat for the original.

Speaking of Bakugan, the show is very similar to Digimon, am I correct? It has the sports side of Bakugan battling each other for sport of Pokemon, but everything else it borrow from Digimon and Dragonball Z.

So many things remind of stuff from the first three seasons of Digimon. Maquerade, he is the Digimon Kaser from season 2, the evil Bakugan attacking the city, is like the Digimon attacks in almost every season of Digimon. The getting all of the other Bakugan players they meet to help out at the end, that is like the international Digidestineds in season 2. And everyone thinking it was just a game early in the series, is like season 3.

[Daxdiv]

I would have bought more of the YGO Uncut ones, It was getting better, I just wished it continued to see if they would get their act together.

Though I will admit that the only edited dubs in my collection that I can think of is Pokemon movies, some of the boxset, the Ocean Dragon Ball dub, and the first volume of Ultimate Muscle dub, AKA the one of the handful of dubs I can tolerate from 4Kids, They were at least able to get the show a proper ending, I have to respect them for that.

Kids don't care where their form of entertainment comes from, just as long as it entertains them. That how I was, that how my cousins are, that how I think most kids are. Though I guess I was a little curious to learn what my favorite show was like from it native country.

[Stevenjoy]

Well, it's not dubbed, but Digimon 02 is legally available subbed, you can buy episodes online, $1.99 each.

[Light Lucario]

I'm not sure if I would buy uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! DVDs if they started again. It's not like I think that the dub is better or anything like that. It had more to do with the weak voice acting in the uncut English side. They sounded so flat, just like they were reading a script instead of acting. I never did watch the subs since I'm not big on subs to begin with. If by some chance that the uncut DVDs did start up again and the voice acting improved, then I would buy it. If they don't, then I'm okay with that too. As I've mentioned before, my enjoyment of an anime series doesn't really rely on being faithful to the original version, but more so on my personal enjoyment. I have considered getting at least the Duelist manga for Yu-Gi-Oh! at some point of time to see the differences though.

[Daxdiv]

I'm not sure if I would buy uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! DVDs if they started again. It's not like I think that the dub is better or anything like that. It had more to do with the weak voice acting in the uncut English side. They sounded so flat, just like they were reading a script instead of acting. I never did watch the subs since I'm not big on subs to begin with. If by some chance that the uncut DVDs did start up again and the voice acting improved, then I would buy it. If they don't, then I'm okay with that too. As I've mentioned before, my enjoyment of an anime series doesn't really rely on being faithful to the original version, but more so on my personal enjoyment. I have considered getting at least the Duelist manga for Yu-Gi-Oh! at some point of time to see the differences though.

Personally, since I am curious to the Japanese Version, how they sounded in Japanese, if its a DBZ scenario, the Original BGM is retained, that what really attracted me to buy them and check them out. Not to sound like some paranoid nutcase, but it somewhat occurred to me that 4Kids might have done that phoned-in VA on purpose. I'm not going to elaborate more into that since, I think it obvious that I was going to go at the angle that 4Kids was trying to prove a point that "Uncut" doesn't sell. You can agree to disagree if you want, that just my stance.

In fact for the Naruto Dub, people complain about his dub voice for the titular character, but I don't think that they notice that Junko is just as, if not more, annoying as Malie voice. That is a part of Naruto character though, so VIZ did something right for that. For some anime I will admit there are times I enjoy Dub<Original (DB Trilogy for one, Spirited Away, Kiki Delivery Service), but the majority is by default Dub>Original (Cowboy Bebop, Yu Yu Hakusho,) There are the rare cases where I the equation equals something like this: Dub=Original (One Piece, if you compare it to the FUNi dub, Ultimate Muscle from what I saw from a few JPN clips, LIII:CoC) That my preference.