New Schedule Change to Fridays and Saturdays: Code Geass and Moribito - 5 AM slots

[Master Moltar]

Really bad news ahead. Starting this week, Friday and Saturday get changed up.

New Friday Schedule

11:00 - Mission Hill
11:30 - Oblongs
12:00 - Stroker and Hoop
12:30 - Boondocks
01:00 - Harvey Birdman
01:30 - Sealab
02:00 - Saul of the Molemen
02:15 - Space Ghost

New Saturday schedule (http://schedule.adultswim.com/servlet/ScheduleServlet?action=AS&theDate=9/13/08&timeZone=EST)

11:00 - Bleach
11:30 - FMA
12:00 - Robot Chicken
12:15 - ATHF
12:30 - Metalocalypse
01:00 - Tim and Eric
01:15 - Assy McGee
01:30 - Squidbillies
01:45 - 12 oz. Mouse

Code Geass and Moribito, you ask? Stuck in the 5 AM death slots. That's gotta be a new low for [as].

[The Collector]

It has to be lower than the paltry 200,000 the third place shows are getting. That, in a word, would make its ratings horrific. You'd probably prop up the ratings with reruns of The Brak Show.

No, it doesn't have to be lower than 200k, it could easily be between 200k and 222k(which, while bad, wouldn't be much worse than the top three). We don't know. And if there's one thing that should have been learned by now, comedy does not prop up anything on Saturday.

EDIT: Wow. I guess you can scratch what I said... except that last line. Can't wait to see the ratings plummet below 200k for the top three now. Screw you, AS. I can't wait until I can just pretend you don't exist, which, by the looks of it, won't be too much longer.

[macattack]

Oh, f*** you too, AS.

Does it need to be any more blatant that anime is toast once the runs of Code Geass, Moribito, and the current Bleach "season" are over with?

And what happened to Shin-Chan?

[n1c3guy707]

That new schedule has to be mistake right? Really Geass and Moribito on the death slot. :mad:

[The Tyrant]

Oh, f*** you too, AS.

Does it need to be any more blatant that anime is toast once the runs of Code Geass, Moribito, and the current Bleach "season" are over with?

And what happened to Shin-Chan?

Cancelled probably. Thanks as always for the info Master M.

Eh, Bandai(I think owns CG) should have sold the TV rights to Ani-Monday. Oh well that's what happens in the wild, wild west. =o

[Draft]

Wow, it looks like Geass and Moribito are really doing that bad...

Honestly, you have to be dissapointed if you're a fan of either of the series, but the shows are probably doing poor enough on [AS] that they need to put them in the death slots

[Beat]

Eh, Bandai(I think owns CG) should have sold the TV rights to Ani-Monday.

Better Geass than Gurren. Sad to say, but if a show needs to take the proverbial bullet, I'd rather Geass and Moribito took it than Gurren Lagann and Gundam 00, which will hopefully live out their lives getting commercials aired during Eureka, ECW, and other shows.

[Beefy]

Ouch for Geass and Moribito. AS has no one to blame but themselves.
That's what they get for not bothering to make a promo for either show.

Those "old school" Fridays didn't last long either.

[GWOtaku]

Wow, screw that.

I hope one day rights to Geass and Ghost in the Shell: SAC go to Sci Fi, and then I can mostly ignore this crap. It'd be one thing if they'd pick a weekday to put the action, but no. They put them at 5 AM out of my reach for more of the same old crappy comedy. This isn't about the shows, this is what happens when you don't promote anything.

I won't mind having FMA back, but geez. Saturdays can't really be called Adult Swim Action anymore.

[MegaJ]

Unbelievable. Wait, totally believable. We went from having [as] introducing the U.S. masses to Cowboy Bebop to new anime premieres in early morning. Stick a fork in anime on [as], it's done. Dead. Just when I was getting into Moribito too. I'm not the biggest fan of Code Geass, but I can imagine how the fans feel.

[Linkpre]

Come on, 5 A.M.!! Why can't action cartoons have one night, just one night. I don't mind the all comedy weekday, but can't action cartoon fans have one night?

I know I sound like some crazy otaku, but there's gotta be something we can do. They could at least put the two shows on at 1:00 A.M.

I just hope this isn't peramenent...

[NickWhiz1]

Wow, to hell with that.

Hopefully they'll still have Geass premieres on the Fix, otherwise there'll be hell to pay.

[Mr. Ralph]

well this kind of sucks:crying::crying::crying:

[D Dubbs]

lol

And people were doubtful that this was the end of anime on [as].

[The Tyrant]

This isn't about the shows, this is what happens when you don't promote anything.


Or acknowledge even exist. Or when it actually debuts and does well for the first time screw with its timeslot thus killing any chance it has of growing an audience.

[ChibiGoku]

...I'm debating whether or not Moribito's timeslot is worse or better.

Regardless, this is really a nasty stab an anime fans. While I am glad Bleach is getting an earlier timeslot and FullMetal Alchemist is returning, the overall schedule is just horrible. The removal of Shin Chan quite frankly surprises me. I actually thought it was doing alright, but I think the removal says otherwise.

Neither Cartoon Network or Adult Swim is making any sense to me with what they're doing with their anime. However, one thing that makes it clear is that both sides seem to be trying to remove as much anime as they can from their programming. Not that I didn't already know that...

[v1cious]

they put Code Geass in the death slot? man Bandai is gonna be PISSED. i hope they never give Williams Street another anime again. just stick with Sci Fi.

[herbkir]

I guess this means an end to anime on Adult Swim. They've gone back to their beginnings as a comedy channel with token anime. Getting rid of anime on weeknights apparently helped the weeknight ratings, so it probably will mean Saturday night ratings will soar back into the 500K range in short order. And if the Bleach premieres/FMA reruns don't consistently make the top 3, they also will be scrapped. As is, anime is down to three hours a week now.

I hate to face it, but the average 18-24 male (Adult Swim's core target demo) has little patience for weekly serialized anime. And the relative few that do like anime drama can view such shows on the Internet when they want them.

Drama may appeal more to the 25-34 end of the young-adult demo, but I think most advertisers don't covet that end of the demo because these people have pretty much formed their brand preferences and generally have commitments that constrain their ability to squander their money.

Comedy is perfect TV fare for 18-24 men. It requires no sustained commitment, episodes can be viewed in any order at any time without missing anything. So if our guy happens to be stuck at home one Saturday night, he can turn to Adult Swim for a laugh. But if he happens to be out and about that night, he can skip Adult Swim without a second thought. It's contingent television.
I wonder, though, if Bandai and Media Blasters will want their licenses back. {AS] running their shows in the 5-6 a.m. death slot virtually eliminates any promotional value the TV license might have. This is particularly true for Moribito as the really new show on the block.

Given how [AS] has treated these shows, I doubt either company will want to ever offer shows to [AS] again. I wouldn't be at all surprised if [AS] were to give up its licenses for Geass R2 and for Moribito.

For me, it's a real pity. I enjoyed my "Saturday Night at the Anime." I guess I'll just have to wait for the DVDs or watch the shows on the Internet. Oh well, since I'm older than 34, the [AS] folks couldn't care less anyway. (^_*)

[Space Cadet]

Decided to spin this off in its own thread so more people can see this.

I guess being beat by Nick at Nite and ESPN last week made AS do this. I knew a schedule change was going to come, but wow, just wow.

[Classic Speedy]

Yeesh. Now I don't feel so bad for cutting cable (and thus, AS). I'm really not missing anything if the non-Bleach anime premieres are going to be at 5 AM.

Good thing I still have ASV for Geass, but dang, this sucks for those who don't want to watch it on that service. And unless this schedule is only temporary for some reason, this is just another nail in the coffin for AS anime. What a pity.

[Scirel]

Yeesh. Now I don't feel so bad for cutting cable (and thus, AS). I'm really not missing anything if the non-Bleach anime premieres are going to be at 5 AM.

Good thing I still have ASV for Geass, but dang, this sucks for those who don't want to watch it on that service. And unless this schedule is only temporary for some reason, this is just another nail in the coffin for AS anime. What a pity.


Another nail? We only have one more nail to go. After this run of Bleach is over, anime on AS is completely toast.

[zoombie]

If Shin Chan is going to be canceled, I suggest Comedy Central take a good hard look at it, they should consider picking it up.

[Beat]

You know, I've been calling Adult Swim's anime choices moronic since 07, and for my troubles I've been called a troublemaker, a troll, and an immature brat.

Guess I was right the whole time. Not that I'm jumping for joy, but it should be obvious this was inevitable when you got stuff like Moribito, Eureka, Paranoia Agent, and DN and didn't even try to sell them to your crowd.

Anime is finished on Adult Swim. The most we can hope for is that Sci-Fi picks up Bleach and Geass and that the AS Saturday sinks regardless.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I really hope Bandai changes their plans for Geass because last I heard they were going to run R2 on AS. TO SCI-IF IT MUST GO!

Bleach at 11PM is nice for people who watch it.

Moribito in a death slot after just a few weeks is unforgivable. Why couldn't that just air on Toonami? Seriously this is bull.

Toonami has nothing and they still choose to waste these anime on Adult Swim? Focus the 9-11PM time on Saturday night toward 12-17 and put Bleach and Moribito after Naruto and let Geass R2 go to Sci-Fi.

[AlphaPrime]

I really hope Bandai changes their plans for Geass because last I heard they were going to run R2 on AS. TO SCI-IF IT MUST GO!

Bleach at 11PM is nice for people who watch it.

Moribito in a death slot after just a few weeks is unforgivable. Why couldn't that just air on Toonami? Seriously this is bull.

Toonami has nothing and they still choose to waste these anime on Adult Swim? Focus the 9-11PM time on Saturday night toward 12-17 and put Bleach and Moribito after Naruto and let Geass R2 go to Sci-Fi.

Sadly AS/CN is to stupid to that these days, shame, Sci Fi is now the best there is when promoting/showing anime.......

Wonder how long this sched will last once they realize the ratings aren't changing worth a hoot just because of their overrated comedy crap?

[Jayngfet]

So what, nine squidbillies in the best slots and a detective show that no one likes and still this? And old school fridays at the same time?

Just when I thought they had some sense.

Looks like it's pointless gore and swearing.

Maybe toonami can pick up moribito and show a warning? please?

[RomanMack]

It's all coming exactly how I predicted it would come. Yet all you guys just say I'm being too negative.

No. I'm being EXACTLY how you have to be with this world. Anime is finished in Adult Swim. Finished. And pretty soon, in general, it's going to be banished to the highest points of obscurity.

Mark my words. We lose. Like I know we, as anime fans, were going to all along.

Now, if you wanna cling on to your tini-tiny bit of optimism, fine by me... Do as you will, but I won't be wasting my time.

Lol, sucks for CG and Morbito, though. But so so SO expected...

[ToliverChap]

Ummm ... I just looked at the schedule and it doesn't look like it's changed. I suppose Adult Swim is to blame for poor marketing but I wouldn't say they've picked bad shows. I've enjoyed most of the anime they've picked for quite awhile. I also wonder if the actual timeslot matters since most people probably TiVo the stuff and watch it on their own schedule. The ratings aren't super poor so I just don't know how much I buy into this reactionary extremism about them cancelling anime. I mean they signed on for the total of Geas and just started a new show. I'd think that if they were to phase it out they'd do it with more planning than that and not lose money on stuff they don't plan on airing.

[jlaking]

New Friday Schedule

11:00 - Oblongs
11:30 - Mission Hill
12:00 - Stroker and Hoop
12:15 - Home Movies
12:30 - Metalocalypse
01:00 - Harvey Birdman
01:30 - Sealab
01:45 - Brak Show
02:00 - Saul of the Molemen
02:15 - Space Ghost

Are you sure that is the schedule for Friday? When did 'Stroker and Hoop' and 'Home Movies' become 15 minutes shows?

[Jayngfet]

It's all coming exactly how I predicted it would come. Yet all you guys just say I'm being too negative.

No. I'm being EXACTLY how you have to be with this world. Anime is finished in Adult Swim. Finished. And pretty soon, in general, it's going to be banished to the highest points of obscurity.

Mark my words. We lose. Like I know we, as anime fans, were going to all along.

Now, if you wanna cling on to your tini-tiny bit of optimism, fine by me... Do as you will, but I won't be wasting my time.

Lol, sucks for CG and Morbito, though. But so so SO expected...

Look, things are bad but it could be worse, fullmetal alchemist was popular and now it's back. Maybe it'll be popular again.

The moment we sit back and say "we lose" we really do lose, we still have what's left of toonami. The moment we stop caring about what airs all action and anime goes out the window and gets replaced by crook'd sipp and more assy mcgee.

Speaking of which, I thought that show bombed, what happened?

[D Dubbs]

Are you sure that is the schedule for Friday? When did 'Stroker and Hoop' and 'Home Movies' become 15 minutes shows?

It's actually this:

11:00 - Mission Hill
11:30 - Oblongs
12:00 - Stroker and Hoop
12:30 - Boondocks
01:00 - Harvey Birdman
01:15 - Harvey Birdman
01:30 - Sealab
01:45 - Sealab
02:00 - Saul of the Molemen
02:15 - Space Ghost

[Scirel]

Wow, firdays totally suck now too. All the light comedies people like are on past 1AM. It's totally backwards.

[Jayngfet]

Hopefully someone as Adult swim reads this and see's this is a bad idea.

[Kitschensyngk]

Is Cartoon Network on some kind of campaign to rid their airwaves of "dirty ultraviolent foreign animation" or something?! I'm already not watching weeknights anymore. Now I have the perfect excuse to skip Saturdays after 11pm now.

They give their action shows the crappiest time slots on the least popular night of the week, they don't give them the slightest hint of a promotion, they make fun of viewers who complain about these wanton schedule changes, and they wonder why nobody's watching?!

Yet more proof that ADULT SWIM IS STAFFED ENTIRELY BY MORONS.

And a woman named Kim.

[RomanMack]

Anime fans just can't be taken seriously, I guess.

[Linkpre]

What I don't understand is why don't they just put Code Geass and Moribito at the 1:00 A.M. hour if they do so poor. I know it's still late, but it's better than the tail end off the block.

They could then fill comedy from 2:00 A.M.-6:00 A.M. Also start off the block with maybe an episode of Venture Brothers. Saturday may be a poor night for television overall, but maybe starting the night off with a comedy would help, such as what they did with Futurama.

I don't know, this is just so random. Anyone know who is in charge of scheduling for [adult swim]?

[Lord Trunks]

Well thats it! I won't be watching Cartoon Network anymore what so ever! when it comes to Bleach I will just DVR it and watch it later. Whats the deal putting Crap like 12oz Mouse with it's terrible production values. This is the Sci-Fi channel's oppritunity to seize on the CN dropping the ball. Bandai should revoke the license they gave Cartoon Network to air it's anime and award it to Sci-Fi Channel. It looks like the constant schedule shifting has finally taken it's course. First the killed what was Toonami and now it appears that they are in the process with Adult Swim too! They have completely destroyed even what Cartoon network was by running live action movies and putting live action drek like Tim and Eric Awsome Show on. This is why I am so thankful to Anime Selects from Comcast Digital cable on demand. This is clearly a sad day. I just hope now that some cable network in Japan will dump American animation they are airing in the same manner now.

You now Suck Adult Swim!

[AMuniz3]

Re: New sched

Well, that's a bummer. No one gets to see the last six episodes of Shin Chan season 2. The show never should have been on with the regular anime anyway, but oh well.

[Kitschensyngk]

This move has "we-miss-Futurama-and-we're-taking-it-out-on-anime" written all over it.

This proves it. They litearlly had NO CONFIDENCE in Moribito whatsoever. None at all.
And it's from the guy who directed the fricking Ghost in the Shell TV series. They could have made something with that.

[FlyByNite77]

RIP AS anime. Hopefully Sci-Fi channel can take over and fill the void. Bandai & Funi should be looking there first.

[Kitschensyngk]

RIP AS anime. Hopefully Sci-Fi channel can take over and fill the void. Bandai & Funi should be looking there first.

Actually, FUNimation still has IFC.

[warnerbroman]

I r

Moribito in a death slot after just a few weeks is unforgivable. Why couldn't that just air on Toonami? Seriously this is bull.

. well they still can

[animewolf17]

Well I'm glad that I recently acquired a DVR so I can just watch Geass and Moribito the next morning before Sunday NFL Countdown.

[Jtaylor1]

It's probably that all people who go to high school, college, and work has to get a good night sleep. Adult Swim must be doing this so people can go to bed a responsible hour. Maybe the goverment is planning to ban anime, because America is founded on christian principles, not foreign.

Probably online video is becoming much popular than TV, don't you think.

[Rud]

well, il just wake up to watch Moribito and then just go to sleep again.

[Ishtar]

Ok, what the hell AS? Could they sink any lower? This new schedule is just an insult, and it only further proves that the current CN/AS does not like anime anymore. Code Geass and Morbito airing at the 5am hour death slot is just....I'm surprised Shin Chan seems to have been pulled entirely, because I thought that would had a better chance of being spared, since it's comedy.

[Space Cadet]

It's probably that all people who go to high school, college, and work has to get a good night sleep. Adult Swim must be doing this so people can go to bed a responsible hour. Maybe the goverment is planning to ban anime, because America is founded on christian principles, not foreign.



The government isn't going to ban anime. Lets steer clear of off-topic discussion.

[Blackstar]

If Shin Chan is going to be canceled, I suggest Comedy Central take a good hard look at it, they should consider picking it up.

I don't think that Shin Chan's fanbase on Adult Swim was/is big enough for Comedy Central to take an interest in it. After all, Shin Chan was never Futurama big. I doubt that CC would know what to do with an anime anyway.

[Jtaylor1]

Maybe Shin Chan wasn't made for TV.

I remember that the show was cancelled in the EU around the year 2000. It was dubbed by Phuuz/Vitello.

Like I said, online video is becoming more popular than TV. I don't know if there won't be a new Shin Chan episode online yet, but we'll have to find out tomorrow if it happens.

[macattack]

Is Cartoon Network on some kind of campaign to rid their airwaves of "dirty ultraviolent foreign animation" or something?!

There was actually a rumor of an "anti-anime directive" that spread briefly on the CN and Toonami forums in the summer of last year that something like that was actually happening with the goal of throwing all Japanese-produced animation off the network by the end of 2008, but no one figured AS would be affected by the same directive, that Lazzo and company would be able to fight it. Heck, the majority of people thought it was all hogwash.

Guess the rumors of the directive are being proven true, and we're wrong that Lazzo could fight it or couldn't turn traitor.

Makes me wonder if Naruto Shippudden will arrive at all now. You would think Viz would've announced its pickup by now.

[Antiyonder]

Maybe Shin Chan wasn't made for TV.

It seemed to do well in it's home country, so I'd say mismanagement was the problem.


Like I said, online video is becoming more popular than TV.

Probably because you get more program choices online. I think getting more viewers for TV would be easier if there were more shows on TV.

[Space Cadet]

Makes me wonder if Naruto Shippudden will arrive at all now. You would think Viz would've announced its pickup by now.

Apparently, they announced it at Anime Expo.

[ShadowGUN]

What the hell Adult Swim?

God, Yu Yu Hakusho all over again.

[macattack]

Apparently, they announced it at Anime Expo.

I meant the TV deal.


God, Yu Yu Hakusho all over again.

Except it doesn't look like Toonami's gonna rescue Geass and Moribito, at least not initially. I would give Toonami a 10% chance of pulling it off overall.

Would you support that? I'd take an Disco-Gunned Code Geass at 10:00 p.m. over uncut Geass at 5 a.m. personally, and Moribito can air uncut on CN anyway (unless CN wants to censor the infrequent cursing the dub's thrown in). But I doubt Akins and DeMarco have the power to pull that off anymore (though I'd love them to just try to save at least one of them).

[veemonjosh]

Except it doesn't look like Toonami's gonna rescue Geass and Moribito, at least not initially. I would give Toonami a 10% chance of pulling it off overall.

Actually, I'm pretty sure he was referring to the fact that Yu Yu Hakusho was forced to finish it's run at a 5:30AM death slot back in 2005/2006.

[Soul]

I'm with along Mac's original statement...
"**** you Adult Swim, **** you."

I mean wow..
Should we throw up a Jeff Harris-Esque "Revolution" type deal for adult swim?
I mean.. just wow.

Though, ironically.

I haven't been watching adult swim much at all.
Just Geass, Shin-Chan, and now it was Morbito and that was every now and then.

I just don't care anymore.
Thank God for Sci-Fi...

[Jtaylor1]

There was actually a rumor of an "anti-anime directive" that spread briefly on the CN and Toonami forums in the summer of last year that something like that was actually happening with the goal of throwing all Japanese-produced animation off the network by the end of 2008, but no one figured AS would be affected by the same directive, that Lazzo and company would be able to fight it. Heck, the majority of people thought it was all hogwash.

Guess the rumors of the directive are being proven true, and we're wrong that Lazzo could fight it or couldn't turn traitor.

Makes me wonder if Naruto Shippudden will arrive at all now. You would think Viz would've announced its pickup by now.

I remember there's are video petitions on YouTube that are trying to stop "A Protection of Human Rights Bill Decidedly". What I think it's suppose to do is to place all anime and manga under the ban. And if you have any, you will be arrested.

[Fool's Gil]

WTF? Why the 5am slots? because it's not getting enough views? Well, why not just show them on other days at the normal times, like I don't know...Monday at 11? or Tuesday at 11? or any day of the week between Sunday and Friday at 11? I can go on, but you get the idea.

:mad: And where's Shin Chan? I swear I can run a better schedule than these guys!:mad:

[Space Cadet]

WTF? Why the 5am slots? because it's not getting enough views? Well, why not just show them on other days at the normal times, like I don't know...Monday at 11? or Tuesday at 11? or any day of the week between Sunday and Friday at 11? I can go on, but you get the idea.



That because Sunday-Thursday at 11, Family Guy has that slot and they're aren't going to replace it because it does so well there.

I think the last time anime was on at 11 that wasn't Saturday was when Big O Season 2 aired at 11 on Sundays in 2003. And that did okay, I guess.

[Jtaylor1]

I wonder if they're going to do the same thing to the video schedule?

I would like to see the Funimation Channel put Shin Chan on it's late night slot, but that would violate FCC's "Decency Act" since the channel's on WDNN-DT's subchannel.

[Fool's Gil]

That because Sunday-Thursday at 11, Family Guy has that slot and they're aren't going to replace it because it does so well there.


:shrug: ...Well 12 then, I guess. :shrug:

Anytime on any day not Friday, Saturday, and Sunday works. I remember a few years back when they made a bump showing days that they got the least views. Friday and Saturday were two of the three days. (I think Wednesday was another, can't remember.)

I wouldn't mind Ani-Tuesday on AS, anything to prevent 5am showings.

[jph139]

*throws up hands*

Well, I give up! Bleach is still entertaining, and I do love FMA, but repeats and mediocre filler is not enough to make me keep the channel on [adult swim]. And, man, Moribito at 5:00 AM? And it's not streaming, either. That sucks; I was getting to like it. :(

It's a sad state of affairs when the only action cartoon I'll watch on TV is Samurai Jack.

[Jtaylor1]

Premiere of SuperJail September 28.

New Episodes of Moral Orel Starting October 9th

Premiere of Drinky Crow November 15th.

[Master Moltar]

Are you sure that is the schedule for Friday? When did 'Stroker and Hoop' and 'Home Movies' become 15 minutes shows?

Sorry about that, I fixed it in the original post.

[KZK]

I've stated before that [as] shows on Sat. tend to do a little better than half of what they premier, and this just prooves it more. (The only show to somewhat buck that trend going back to Champloo was Bleach, and look at it's current numbers).

No Promotion + Saturdays, does not work. Period.


My predictions:

1. [as] has entered a death spiral for Sat. ratings. They will continue to get worse and worse. Fans and Causual Viewers are pissed, and just don't care anymore. Every time they jack the schedule around it will get worse.

2. CN/[as] will not acquire anymore anime shows period. (Moribito was actually acquired for CN way back in 2007 when that exec who died was still around.) Bleach will end at 104. Shippuden will not be picked up by CN. They will finish Moribito at 5am.

3. Bandai might try to get the rights to Geass R2 pulled from [as]. Media Blasters will not, they don't have the pull, and nowhere else to possibly get Moribito on tv anyway. In fact this might be better for Moribito as more children may watch at the death slot time, which is what they were after anyway.

4. I expect 2009 to be relatively anime free on [as]/CN. The only thing that will still be around will be pokemon, and perhaps the tail end of the Bleach premiers.

5. Toonami is dead. So is ASA.

6. Animonday on Sci-fi may expand. With virtually no competition (nobody gets the IFC or FUNimation channels)for what anime they can acquire they can acquire the cream of the crop.

7. A fair number of ASA fans watch the ASC too. A fair portion of these people will stop watching altogether. Comedy ratings may take a slight hit.

8. It is my belief that the real reason [as]'s weekday rating went up was that they doubled Family Guy airings, not so much that they pulled anime.

9. As has been said by many in this thread already: F*** you [as].

[Hyper Shadow X]

Well now this really sucks.

[Rolling Cloud]

You know, I was thinking that if Bokurano ever gets dubbed it'd fit on AS.

But now......I need to rethink everything.

[Jtaylor1]

That means CN/Toonami/AS along with Boomerang will become defunct in the near future.

[MegaJ]

Makes me wonder if Naruto Shippudden will arrive at all now. You would think Viz would've announced its pickup by now.

Hmm, there's still Nicktoons Network. They have the X-Men and Iron Man series coming out next year. Who knows, maybe Nick/Viacom was chomping at the bit all this time for CN to fail so they can start picking up/producing action shows.

I'm not sure how true the anti-anime directive is, I just hope it was a rumor and not some stupid exec forcing his/her direction on the channel.

[TnAdct1]

Way to alienate your viewers, AS. :mad:

[chdr]

That means CN/Toonami/AS along with Boomerang will become defunct in the near future.

Last time I checked CN/AS did perfectly fine without anime. If anything, this change should increase the ratings.

[D Dubbs]

Last time I checked CN/AS did perfectly fine without anime. If anything, this change should increase the ratings.

Yeah, probably. People will still complain about it, though.

[Rocketboy]

I'll wait 3 weeks when they change the schedule, if it's still like that, then I'll freak.

[Jtaylor1]

2. CN/[as] will not acquire anymore anime shows period. (Moribito was actually acquired for CN way back in 2007 when that exec who died was still around.) Bleach will end at 104. Shippuden will not be picked up by CN. They will finish Moribito at 5am.


If that happens, then CN/AS/Toonami/Boomerang will shut down and become defunct.



3. Bandai might try to get the rights to Geass R2 pulled from [as]. Media Blasters will not, they don't have the pull, and nowhere else to possibly get Moribito on tv anyway. In fact this might be better for Moribito as more children may watch at the death slot time, which is what they were after anyway.

If Shin Chan gets pulled from America, then TV Asahi may have to pull it from their home country.



4. I expect 2009 to be relatively anime free on [as]/CN. The only thing that will still be around will be pokemon, and perhaps the tail end of the Bleach premiers.

As a matter of fact, turner broadcasting doesn't care about cartoons and anime. They prefer real life sitcoms.



5. Toonami is dead. So is ASA.


And so does CN.



6. Animonday on Sci-fi may expand. With virtually no competition (nobody gets the IFC or FUNimation channels)for what anime they can acquire they can acquire the cream of the crop. I have DirecTV and I get IFC.

[Master Moltar]

Alright, after having a day to let the changes sink in, here's what I think.

I know almost all anime fans are rooting for this new schedule to epic and for them to restore the Saturday line-up to an anime majority. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. I hate to cast doom upon the night, but this could spell the end of new anime acquistions. Of course, that's worst case scenario, but with the way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised.

Even the anime moving to the first hour can be seen as negative. I did the math before, and the first hour tends to be the weakest hour of the night (in 2008). With Bleach premieres there, it could see some improvement (Bleach reruns and IY didn't do too well there though). I'm not really sure what they're trying to accompish with FMA reruns following it. FMA is a strong performer, but the last time it was on Saturday, it didn't do well.

I don't see why they they just put Geass or Shin there instead. I think (more like hope) Geass can return to the main block for R2 and they air that at 11:30. Shin would have worked there until it finished too, and then they could jump right to R2. Of course, if FMA does epic at 11:30, they may just put another comedy there.

Then there is Robot Chicken at midnight, and that's a deadly combination that should be feared. With it and ATHF (soon Superjail encores) holding down 12 AM, I can't see it not taking first after a few weeks of this new schedule. Midnight is the strongest slot of the night, and RC is the 2nd strongest show [as] has. I've already been a strong supporter of it leading the night since it did well as the lead last time, but at 12 AM, it may just may sure that anime doesn't return to the post-midnight slots.

12:30 on is filled with weak comedy shows. Those slots stand the best chances of failing, but if weeknights are any indication, if the late-night comedy does end up doing better than the usual anime shows, then it's over.

Geass and Moribito at 5 AM is just horrible beyond words. Geass at least as ASV, but Moribito is done. Shin Chan will probably finish up as a Video exclusive while we're at it. In fact, if [as] does indeed continue to pick up series after this, I wouldn't be surprised if, like Jetstream, they were online exclusive.

Overall, there is a chance of the new schedule failing, but I think it stands a better chance beating out the sub-300K numbers anime has been pulling. RC at midnight will drive up the Top 3 average, and the shows following it are likely to scoop up the remaining slots. Bleach could pop its head up every once in a while if the anime fans follow it at 11:00, but I think Saturdays as we once knew it is dead.

To make the best of a bad thing, the schedule wouldn't be as bad if they put Geass at 11:30 and aired R2 there as well. If you're going to keep the first hour anime, you might as well make it two premieres. Shin Chan and Moribito would have to take up 5 AM. Still, it's just hard to believe things have gotten this bad.

[MegaJ]

Last time I checked CN/AS did perfectly fine without anime. If anything, this change should increase the ratings.

Enh, Saturdays will probably still do bad as it has nothing to do with anime, it just doesn't get promoted at all, and the schedule changes EVERY MONTH.

CN/AS will continue to do well without anime, but keep in mind that Toonami was one of CN's successful blocks and [as] was home to anime that appealed to adults. This move will create a lot of bad faith with anime fans, and while they may get new viewers, they might have turned away long time fans. Which is typically no problem with channel changing formats since G4 is doing much better than TechTV ever did for example. :shrug:

It won't be that bad, I guess. If CN produces more cartoons like Flapjack and Chowder, I'll be happy. [as] seriously needs to step up their game and not be afraid to spend money, because I don't think their old philosophy of "adults don't care about really great animation" holds up anymore. I mean, the worst Bleach filler episode looks better than a lot of [as] stuff. Get some actually talented people to make your shows, not just Tim and Eric.

[Darklordavaitor]

Not something I particuarly agree with, but at the same time, I'm not too depressed, as I already record Code Geass and Moribito to my DVR, anyway.

I also have to agree with the fact that if [adult swim] frequently proclaims that anime bombs on the network, that why don't they actually attempt to advertise some of their shows, or at least put their newer series on at a better time than between 12:30-5, instead of just dumping new anime to the end of the block. I'd think if Bleach's fanbase is that loyal, they wouldn't mind staying up a bit later to catch it.

As for Shin Chan, personally, I really think it should of been on Sunday nights in favor of Saturdays. I don't see why [as] doesn't seem to think that fans of Family Guy would be more open to it than fans of Inuyasha. Just because they're both from Japan doesn't mean that they aim for the same demographics

[D Dubbs]

Not something I particuarly agree with, but at the same time, I'm not too depressed, as I already record Code Geass and Moribito to my DVR, anyway.

I also have to agree with the fact that if [adult swim] frequently proclaims that anime bombs on the network, that why don't they actually attempt to advertise some of their shows, or at least put their newer series on at a better time than between 12:30-5, instead of just dumping new anime to the end of the block. I'd think if Bleach's fanbase is that loyal, they wouldn't mind staying up a bit later to catch it.

As for Shin Chan, personally, I really think it should of been on Sunday nights in favor of Saturdays. I don't see why [as] doesn't seem to think that fans of Family Guy would be more open to it than fans of Inuyasha. Just because they're both from Japan doesn't mean that they aim for the same demographics

So when did you get unbanned?

[Darklordavaitor]

So when did you get unbanned?
If you really care, you can IM or PM me. I'm not discussing bannishment or anything of the sort on this site, and I don't want to turn this thread off-topic.

[Beat]

Well, I might as well go ahead and say it. Adult Swim fails at marketing anime, because they can only get slow stuff. If all anime failed and anime was REALLY ratings poison-

Sci-Fi would have cut Ani-Monday instead of getting Gurren Lagann and Gundam 00, and movies after ECW? Forget it.

Afro-Samurai? That would never have gotten off the ground. For Spike to air it after the UFC and give it a second season would have been impossible.

But, and here's the kicker. Ignoring all the conspiracy theories and all that, did Adult Swim ever bother to get shows that would appeal to a mass audience? Other than Bleach, no.

They set themselves up for failure, and in that respect, they did a fantastic job. Game's over, let's go watch Sci-Fi and IFC. It's only a matter of time before Adult Swim becomes Seth Swim anyway. If AS thinks people are tuning in for anything but Seth (MacFarlane and Green) made shows, they're sadly mistaken.

[Swordfish_II]

I honestly don't think I care anymore.

I just home Time Warner updates the schedule so my DVR records it and not whatever's gonna be on at 1.

[Malykoth]

WOW...I used to kinda look forward to my Saturday nights with the cartoons. Honestly, RC isn't too bad, but I'd rather read a book (ANY book...seriously...even a phone book) than watch Tim & Eric.

...really a shame about Moribito...

Oh, and **** you, Adult Swim....**** you with something hard and sand-papery. :mad:

[Linkpre]

Well, I might as well go ahead and say it. Adult Swim fails at marketing anime, because they can only get slow stuff. If all anime failed and anime was REALLY ratings poison-

Sci-Fi would have cut Ani-Monday instead of getting Gurren Lagann and Gundam 00, and movies after ECW? Forget it.

Afro-Samurai? That would never have gotten off the ground. For Spike to air it after the UFC and give it a second season would have been impossible.

But, and here's the kicker. Ignoring all the conspiracy theories and all that, did Adult Swim ever bother to get shows that would appeal to a mass audience? Other than Bleach, no.

They set themselves up for failure, and in that respect, they did a fantastic job. Game's over, let's go watch Sci-Fi and IFC. It's only a matter of time before Adult Swim becomes Seth Swim anyway. If AS thinks people are tuning in for anything but Seth (MacFarlane and Green) made shows, they're sadly mistaken.
That's one of the things I don't like in the television business. Everything has to appeal to the general or popular public opinion, if the show is different, no one will watch and the show eventually gets cancelled.

They could appeal to the "mass audience" everyday of the week, but couldn't people who'd like to see something a bit different get one night?

[herbkir]

Unfortunately, no. In a shrinking enconomy, you don't make the big money by catering to niche markets like anime fans. You make big bucks only by selling crap to the masses 24/7/365. [AS] is just following the general business trend. (^_*)

[JTurner954]

I'll start with the Friday schedule since that's the shortest issue to comment on:

I'm disappointed. I was really enjoying the old school format with the AS originals (especially Sealab). The only positive I see in this new lineup is Mission Hill at an earlier time.

And now the Saturday schedule:

This new schedule is EXCELLENT. Bleach has been good since they ended that unnecessary, slow Soul Reaper arc and now it's on earlier. Follow that up with Fullmetal Alchemist, one of Funimation's best shows, and you have a very strong first hour. Then Adult Swim answers my "Cancel Shin Chan" prayers ( :crosses fingers: ) and replaces it with a funny show for 15 minutes ... then another funny show for 15 minutes ... followed by another 45minutes of excellent comedies. Instead of watching Adult Swim for 60 minutes, this new schedule has me watching for over two hours.

So we go from "Geass" to "Assy"... I don't like Geass, Moribito, or the comedies that replaced them so even though it's sad that the anime premieres are at 5 am, it doesn't affect me. I'd rather have bad shows at the end of a block, not the beginning.

But if you guys really want to help Code Geass and Moribito, do everything you can to buy the DVD's and official products. Say "no thanks" to Adult Swim and stop watching and "thank you" to Bandai and Media Blasters and buy from them. You could even write a note thanking them as I'm sure the companies would like to know there are people who appreciate their work.

Just like the film industry, Adult Swim likes to release their best stuff near the end of the year. I heard they were going to air "Monster" or "Buso Renkin" so I'm pretty sure the show(s?) they pick will be the good anime of the year. I won't say anime is "dead", but I would say the selection is lame. AS really needs to stop trying to get new anime and stick with something a little more recent (FMA was a good choice) or older (I wouldn't mind seeing Astroboy or Lupin or even Outlaw Star again).

If AS wants more viewers, I have suggestions (Ani Monday is following them as of late) :

1. Get better shows. It doesn't have to be new shows from 2008, just get some good shows. If they want some ideas (or to see a show they use to air), they should check out Funimation's Youtube channel.

2. Would you like to know why Ani Monday makes me happy week after week? Because unlike Adult Swim's presentation, Sci Fi isn't alienating its audience with "adults only" and "you suck" messages (although some of the dumb things fans say via the message board make me thank AS for insulting them) . Instead, Ani Monday makes watching their block ... fun. Instead of "watch if you're x years old" messages, you're greeted with happy characters with upbeat music telling people watching anime is a good thing. If the show is for "adults", they'll know when the TV-MA rating appears.

2a. If advertising is a problem, don't call the block "Adult Swim". I can understand not advertising during the morning and afternoon due to kids watching, but how about prime time? Believe it or not, there is content within shows that are not "adult"; why not use those clips to advertise the block? Again, the TV ratings tell the ratings so having disclaimers every hour is a waste. To single out viewers by age group is insulting. A name change would also eliminate the "this show is not adult therefore not good on Adult Swim" comments.

3. Sci fi doesn't have their episodes online; maybe Adult Swim should take them off their own website too so more people will watch on Saturdays. I think having anime on once a week is helping because it keeps people wanting more every week. It also gives the network more time to work on getting more content without their current lineup burning up within a month.

4. Don't rerun the block at 2:00 a.m. and/or stop calling yourselves a separate channel from Cartoon Network. Sci Fi has no reruns later in the night so if you miss it, you'll have to wait months for a series to rerun to see it again. Would you rather have people saying "I have to watch this before it's too late" or "I'll watch it later" and end up forgetting?


And remember, Adult Swim loves to change the schedule so it's only a matter of time before they do it again. Since the internet loves anime, I'm pretty sure the "Have It Your Way" winner will be the anime dominant schedule. But in case anime on AS really is done, I strongly suggest recording that night.

[warnerbroman]

well here is a bump I saw "hey, don't know if you realized ut we broke up with you
check our facebook totally single again.You forgot our birthday,You don't watch our anime,you tell us we suck on the boards we decided that's enough of that hope your happy with that other network"

what's this about?

[Bloody Marquis]

well here is a bump I saw "hey, don't know if you realized ut we broke up with you
check our facebook totally single again.You forgot our birthday,You don't watch our anime,you tell us we suck on the boards we decided that's enough of that hope your happy with that other network"

what's this about?Eh, maybe [AS] isn't taking the backlash too well. Still, it's their fault for not advertising Geass and Moribito. If they want good ratings for their shows, they can at least acknowledge that they have those shows.

[The Overlord]

That's one of the things I don't like in the television business. Everything has to appeal to the general or popular public opinion, if the show is different, no one will watch and the show eventually gets cancelled.

They could appeal to the "mass audience" everyday of the week, but couldn't people who'd like to see something a bit different get one night?

You do realize we live capitalist society, right? More ratings, means more ad money, which means the show is a success.

Less ratings equals less ad money, which means the show has failed, its as simple that. Whether you personally like the show is irrelevant, whether it makes money or not, is relevant.

Same deal with Japan, if an anime doesn't get good ratings, it will get canceled, so why should the US market be different?

[Linkpre]

So all this is because of people illegaly watching the shows and the apparent rise of Sci Fi's Ani Monday?

Come on [adult swim], people would still watch the shows if they were actually properly promoted and the schedules didn't constantly change. Everyone's not into "fansubbing".

[The Overlord]

So all this is because of people illegaly watching the shows and the apparent rise of Sci Fi's Ani Monday?

Come on [adult swim], people would still watch the shows if they were actually properly promoted and the schedules didn't constantly change. Everyone's not into "fansubbing".

That doesn't change the fact that family Guy reruns do better then any anime on adult swim, the anime market just isn't big enough this point.

[Linkpre]

You do realize we live capitalist society, right? More ratings, means more ad money, which means the show is a success.

Less ratings equals less ad money, which means the show has failed, its as simple that. Whether you personally like the show is irrelevant, whether it makes money or not, is relevant.

Same deal with Japan, if an anime doesn't get good ratings, it will get canceled, so why should the US market be different?
I understand how television ratings work and I know they shouldn't have to cater to my specific tastes. I just feel [adult swim] could have handled the shows differently. Things could have been potentially better if the shows were treated more fairly.

I know japanese animation as a whole is a niche market and I'm glad [adult swim] has continued showing it over the years, just wished it was treated better. Is even that too much to ask?

[The Huntsman]

So all this is because of people illegaly watching the shows and the apparent rise of Sci Fi's Ani Monday?

Come on [adult swim], people would still watch the shows if they were actually properly promoted and the schedules didn't constantly change. Everyone's not into "fansubbing".I think that the bigger problem is merely with the selection of Nielsen Families. Only 5,000 households on a national level have their viewing habits monitored. That’s 5,000 out of over 100,000,000 households. As people have mentioned in this thread, anime is a niche market, which makes it quite rare for people who like anime to be selected to become a Nielsen Family. Even if a million people all tuned in to watch anime on [Adult Swim], they would have no impact on the ratings unless they were Nielsen Families.

[purplehairedwonder]

...

You have got to be kidding me.

No, I'll take that back; I believe it. I just think it's completely ridiculous. Geass is airing its best episodes, R2 is just down the pipe, and Moribito has barely gotten off the ground and they get moved to the death slot... absolutely amazing.

Hopefully I'll remember to set my VCR to record Geass and Moribito because, well, yeah.

[macattack]

I don't know what Sci-Fi expects out of Ani-Monday but apparently the block was strong enough to survive the really slow months it had before Gurren Lagann and Now And Then began premiering. The block obviously holds some advertiser appeal. Somewhere Sci-Fi is doing something right. Maybe it is because there usually isn't much premiering at 11:00 p.m. on Monday, I don't know.

I feel sorry for Media Blasters (can't believe I'm saying that). This makes it the 2nd time CN's screwed them over with one of their properties. First it was Rurouni Kenshin. Now, after MB spent so much money outbidding bigger companies with deeper pockets for Moribito out of hope that the TV deal would bring success, AS promptly screws MB over by practically canceling the show.

I can easily see Bandai moving R2 elsewhere. R2 is for all practical purposes almost an entirely different show compared to CG anyway.

[Dai_Maxwell]

The people responsible for this need to be dragged from their offices, hanged by their thumbs over a low-burning fire while all of us sit around and roast marshmallows to their screams (and that's the kid friendly version.)

Unfortunately for CN/AS I don't watch ANYTHING live and in fact have last week's Bleach, CG and Morbito on my DVR due to a late starting college football game. I'll just record the early morning shows and watch them the following week after Bleach. The damn things were coming on too late for me anyway...

[Wounded_Dragon]

Unfortunately, no. In a shrinking enconomy, you don't make the big money by catering to niche markets like anime fans. You make big bucks only by selling crap to the masses 24/7/365. [AS] is just following the general business trend. (^_*)

The irony being, their comedies at the beginning were very niche indeed.

[Ana]

I had no problem with the previous times... but seriously? Forget this, I'll just finish Moribito and Code Geass on DVD.

[I.D.Will19??]

well here is a bump I saw "hey, don't know if you realized ut we broke up with you
check our facebook totally single again.You forgot our birthday,You don't watch our anime,you tell us we suck on the boards we decided that's enough of that hope your happy with that other network"

what's this about?

This here's a joke, right? It's these types of comments that make Adult Swim seem childish. What the hell happened to them? Their attitude towards anime has drastically changed over the years.

[Grenzer]

This is business here people. Bad business mind you, but [as] clearly made up their minds on this months ago.

And I would not be surprised if some executive had it in for anime and screwed things up on purpose. That's an old trick designed to clear the way for said executive to set their own agenda at the network. Manning and Lazzo may not have had any control over that. Have we even heard anything from them lately?

[Ajax]

Whoa...WHOA....WHOA....WHOA....WHOA....WHOA!!!
[as] shows anime on saturday nights? When the **** did this happen? And uh...ouch... the YYH treatment. I mean nothing tells ur viewers "we hate [insert show]" like putting it in the death slot.


hey, don't know if you realized but we broke up with you check our facebook totally single again.You forgot our birthday,You don't watch our anime,you tell us we suck on the boards we decided that's enough of that hope your happy with that other networkYeah dont know if you ever gave a crap but we've actually been broken up for about a year now, and i totally myspace, gtfo with your facebook. You never told me your b-day, you apparently hate anime so why even bring it up, you give us these **** you scheduals so what are we suppose to say and we are happy with the other network...there also bigger then you.

[RomanMack]

Just another day as an anime fan, as far as I'm concerned.

Just get used to it, people.

[Jayngfet]

Well at least they watch it, now maybe they can change the damn schedule back.

[Paul_Cousins]

Code Geass and Moribito, you ask? Stuck in the 5 AM death slots. That's gotta be a new low for [as].I have to agree. I guess they were to high in the ratings.

[Jayngfet]

Does someone have a video of this bump?

[Beat]

The irony being, their comedies at the beginning were very niche indeed.

Except the Seth shows, their comedies still are cliche. Don't forget that. Venture Brothers isn't the next big thing driving in viewers, Family Guy, American Dad, and Robot Chicken are.


Just another day as an anime fan, as far as I'm concerned.

Just get used to it, people.

The anime community doesn't live and die by Adult Swim. Just a few hardcore fans do.

[Kiryu]

This is just ridiculous...if it wasn't for anime (and space ghost) there probably wouldn't even *be* an adult swim today. Good thing theres at least Sci-Fi and IFC, but I really looked forward to Code Geass every week, guess its time to go buy more dvds!

And just to echo the sentiments of many others here, **** you AS, time to go back to watching family guy and american dad on fox again. I'll watch Bleach until they banish it as well, maybe catch a metalocalypse or venture bros. now and then, but I'm pretty much done with AS if this schedule stays how it is (which it probably will).

[Jtaylor1]

I predict that in 2009:

Sci-Fi and IFC will do the same way as CN/AS did.

Funimation Channel and Anime Network will shut down.

Anime Companies will lay off thousands of workers and stop distrubuting anime DVDs. Cosplays, anime, and manga will be the thing of the past as gaming will become more popular.

[xokxtrunks]

I predict that in 2009:

Sci-Fi and IFC will do the same way as CN/AS did.

Funimation Channel and Anime Network will shut down.

Anime Companies will lay off thousands of workers and stop distrubuting anime DVDs. Cosplays, anime, and manga will be the thing of the past as gaming will become more popular.

Hasn't gaming always been more popular?

Ridiculous the way they treat Saturdays. They have to understand that they don't have Futurama anymore, so they won't be pulling the large figures. It really bites to see this happening at the end of Geass too. I hope Bandai tries to pull R2 from [as] and maybe get it on Sci-Fi.

What happened [as], what happened? :sad:

[Jtaylor1]

Hasn't gaming always been more popular?

Yes, it has and it will always be. Back before the G4/TechTV merger, there was a block called "Anime Unleashed" and it had a lot of kick a** anime including my favorite Dual! Parallel Trouble Adventure. But now G4 airs gaming stuff and it will keep airing them until the end of time.

Right now, I'm waiting to see if the AS video schedule is going to be changed, which I guarantee it will.

[jlaking]

I wonder if they're going to do the same thing to the video schedule?

I would like to see the Funimation Channel put Shin Chan on it's late night slot, but that would violate FCC's "Decency Act" since the channel's on WDNN-DT's subchannel.


That has not stopped the Funimation Channel airing BECK and Basilisk uncut, including the F-bombs on BECK.

[Jtaylor1]

Don't forget. My Network TV affiliates WSAW-DT2, WRGT-DT2, and WSYX-DT2 carry Funimation programming. Not to mention KBTV-CA.

I forgot that the station in New York that carries FUNi is WRNN-DT not WDNN-DT.

FUNi was carried on KIKU Hawaii, KSCI Los Angeles, and KHCV Seattle.

I wish FOX would drop 4Kids in favor for FUNi.

[herbkir]

Unfortunately, anime fans are part of the problem that led to this sorry state of affairs. I've seen several posts from people who say they used to watch Adult Swim anime "back in the day" but don't do so anymore.

Sad fact is the ratings numbers this year have showed a steady decline in the 18-34 young adult viewers of Adult Swim anime.

You can dispute the accuracy of those ratings numbers all you want, but TV execs and TV advertisers believe they paint a true picture of viewership and act according to what those ratings tell them. Which is what Adult Swim has just done with their Saturday schedule. (^_*)

[Jtaylor1]

Unfortunately, anime fans are part of the problem that led to this sorry state of affairs. I've seen several posts from people who say they used to watch Adult Swim anime "back in the day" but don't do so anymore.

I bet they all repented their anime addiction and become christians. In other words, anime is declining and pretty soon it will surely die.

[Classic Speedy]

I bet they all repented their anime addiction and become christians. In other words, anime is declining and pretty soon it will surely die. I don't know if you're trying to be funny or whatever, but please drop it.

[Jayngfet]

I bet they all repented their anime addiction and become christians. In other words, anime is declining and pretty soon it will surely die.

I don't know if you're serious, joking, or trying to convert us with you're posts, but it's not working.

[MegaJ]

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9240/motivator8957180vk4.jpg

[Jayngfet]

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9240/motivator8957180vk4.jpg

Quoted for truth.

[Beat]

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9240/motivator8957180vk4.jpg

Tis true. Oh if only Comedy Central could get Family Guy.

I can't wait to see how the ASMB spins this.

[macattack]

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9240/motivator8957180vk4.jpg

Brilliant!

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I bet they all repented their anime addiction and become christians. In other words, anime is declining and pretty soon it will surely die.

You know I've rarely felt the need to repent for watching a Japanese cartoon. There have been a few occasions... However I've felt the need to repent quite a lot more often while watching the filfthy comedy Adult Swim plays so often. Not all of it is regretable watching but playing Squidibillies which is down right disturbing a lot of the time vs a clean-cut show like Moribito isn't exactly what I'd call "fixing the problem" as far as purging innapropriate content.

Adult Swim thrives off innapropriate content... and Family Guy which is cleaner comparitively... at least most of the time.

[Carlos]

Tis true. Oh if only Comedy Central could get Family Guy.



Why? Just to spite AS because of this schedule change?

[Mek]

I bet they all repented their anime addiction and become christians. In other words, anime is declining and pretty soon it will surely die.

Not cool man, not cool.

[Kiryu]

I almost wish they'd lose Family Guy now too. And yes, out of spite, I'm vengeful like that :D.

Adult Swim has to be the only channel... ever... in the history of television to air reruns and older crap during their prime hours, and put on premier episodes in the 5am infomercial slot instead, when even the drunkest and most niteowl of people are finally asleep. This is inexcusable, ratings or not. Like putting all their 15min comedies on is going to do better? They've tried it before and without Futurama the comedies didn't do one bit better than the anime in that slot.

At least let the shows you have run their course with a tiny ounce of respect, then just switch the whole block over if thats what you want to do.

[Blackstar]

I bet they all repented their anime addiction and become christians. In other words, anime is declining and pretty soon it will surely die.

What does organized religion have to do with Japanese animation? If the above was intended as a joke, I think it's in pretty poor taste.

[Jtaylor1]

Okay, sorry I exaggerated and I'm being very silly. And Speedy Boris, I apologize for going off-topic.

Right now, I going to see if they're going to air the last two Shin Chan episodes online or not.

[Linkpre]

So has anyone managed to capture that bump from last night?

Anyway, what I'm interesting in seeing is how long this schedule will last. You know how [adult swim] sometimes does those schedule bumps, but always manages to leave out the Saturday lineup? I'm guessing that they'll start advertising the night now because it's mostly gonna be a comedy night.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Wow [*JUST found out about the schedule change*]... I don't usually post in this forum very often other than show talkbacks, but this is absolutly ridiculous and worth ranting over- putting Code Geass and Moribito at FIVE AM. I get up at that time when I go to school in the morning. If they're going to disregard their anime then why air it in the first place? Putting shows at god-awful times in the early morning is the same as acting as if it doesn't even exist in the first place. I don't see the point.
Somebody should write hate mail and place cherry bombs in mailboxes.

[Ishtar]

Ok, there is a new Shin Chan on adultswim.com this week, but yet it's not airing tomorrow? Maybe Shin Chan is continuing it's premieres online only, at least for now.

[MegaJ]

Why? Just to spite AS because of this schedule change?

So maybe they'll actually be forced to create and spend money on funny animated shows instead of the flashimated stuff and live-action shows. The block was started almost ten years ago and it just hasn't grown beyond that.

[Antiyonder]

Thing is that I've been getting more into anime recent than I've been in the previous years, but it's not so much the removal of the anime itself.

Rather it leaves Adult Swim with some less inspiring programs. I mean, the current ones that stand out to me the most are Boondocks and Venture Bros. Heck, some of Cartoon Networks upcoming shows are more inspiring.

Frankly, I think that they could fit both anime and comedy if they'd cut down on repeats.

[Emperor Fred]

Just a few of my own thoughts on all of this.

-To repeat what's already been said many times, anime is dead at [as]. The writing's been on the wall for a while, but this is truly the sign of the end.

-Having said that, I'm kind of intrigued that their new Saturday lineup looks like it's going to be a direct repeat of their spotlight Sunday night lineup - minus Family Guy/American Dad. It'll be interesting to see whether this strategy has any positive effect on the ratings (my money's on no).

-"Yu Yu Hakusho all over again"? We can only hope. At least YYH got to finish its run in the 5AM timeslot of death. I don't want this to turn into a .hack//Roots all over again.

-I'm surprised how many people in this thread apparently don't own DVRs/TiVos/VCRs/etc. I mean ultimately, who cares when the shows are on? We should at least be thankful that these shows are still on the air (except poor Shin-chan), while still getting on [as]'s case for giving them, and anime fans in general, the big middle finger.

-I give Fullmetal reruns 3 weeks before they're replaced by Venture Bros./Shin-chan/more Bleach. It's a great show, but history has proven this is a bad idea once before.

-Geez, and just as quickly as it appeared, the Britcom "Look Around You" has disappeared from the schedule. As a rule, I'm not a supporter of live-action programming on the network, but I really enjoyed Darkplace and was looking forward to this.

-Old school Friday night - what the hell? Since when do we count Stroker & Hoop, Boondocks, and Saul of the frickin' Molemen as old-school [as]? And is anybody as sick as I am of Oblongs and Mission Hill? Seriously, they already don't play anything but them Sundays at 1AM and weeknights at 2AM, and now they get the lead-off spot on Fridays?? Sounds like another side-effect of "We Miss Futurama" syndrome.

-It's a long shot, but do you think now that they've removed InuYasha on Saturdays to show Geass and Moribito, that they might consider giving it a rest on weekdays to give a quick deserved rerun to Blood+ and Death Note? Nah, somehow I doubt they'd be that cool to us.

-And as for myself, macattack, I'd rather watch (well, record) uncut anime at 5AM then have it edited to TV-Y7 standards any day. Call me obsessive, but I've pretty much given up on watching Bleach on anything but DVD since they started making the end credits "TV friendly." About the only thing I can tolerate these days is the eyecatch being cut. That's why I've never even bothered with anime on Sci-Fi. I just couldn't tolerate the multiple commercial breaks, pop-up adverts and practically non-existant credits.

...Yeah, [as] ACTN will be missed.

[Jtaylor1]

Ok, there is a new Shin Chan on adultswim.com this week, but yet it's not airing tomorrow? Maybe Shin Chan is continuing it's premieres online only, at least for now.

Yes, and I'm getting the feeling that the AS Video schedule is going to be changed as well. Instead of anime, they'll be showing Williams Street/Seth Shows.

And I don't mind watching Drinky Crow because that's all I'm going to watch. After that, it's back to online video.

[SpaceCowboy]

Anyway, what I'm interesting in seeing is how long this schedule will last. You know how [adult swim] sometimes does those schedule bumps, but always manages to leave out the Saturday lineup? I'm guessing that they'll start advertising the night now because it's mostly gonna be a comedy night.If they start advertising the comedy line-up on Saturday now, the people running Adult Swim really do deserve a good kick in the head. There's no excuse for why AS couldn't have integrated the anime with their comedy shows and not continuously mocked fans in their cards. As many others have said I too say "F*** you, Adult Swim"

[chdr]

Yes, and I'm getting the feeling that the AS Video schedule is going to be changed as well. Instead of anime, they'll be showing Williams Street/Seth Shows.


It's always been like that. Always.


Ok, there is a new Shin Chan on adultswim.com this week, but yet it's not airing tomorrow? Maybe Shin Chan is continuing it's premieres online only, at least for now.

If you look ahead on the as.com splash pages, it says Shin-Chan will be Fix-only.

[Bloody Marquis]

If they start advertising the comedy line-up on Saturday now, the people running Adult Swim really do deserve a good kick in the head. There's no excuse for why AS couldn't have integrated the anime with their comedy shows and not continuously mocked fans in their cards. As many others have said I too say "F*** you, Adult Swim"
Indeed.

Honestly, I was kind of angry when I saw the new schedule. 3 of the shows I was watching either got canned or shoved into 5 AM. And now, they got replaced by shows like Tim & Eric, 12 Oz Mouse, and Assy McGee. So yeah, this is just ridiculous.

[Jtaylor1]

Say goodbye, Time Warner. You're toast.

[chdr]

Say goodbye, Time Warner. You're toast.

Stop overreacting. Really.

[Kitschensyngk]

MegaJ, you've just inspired me.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k22/Kitschensyngk/AdultSwim.jpg

[Don_East]

I have this urge to just dress up like Kamina, run up to WS and yell "WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?" with the exact same pose as he says it.

Why? Because I have the urge to fight the power.

I'm not even a fan nor I have ever watched Geass or Moribito but I'm still angry. I really want to do something to rebel against AS that's nonviolent and legal. Maybe start up a campaign to take FG from them and put it on FX or Comedy Central.

[Jayngfet]

They don't even deserve family guy, they deserve the clevland show for this.

Also in comic book references:

http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/output/motivator4626283.jpg

[Raidon Makoto]

Sucks that Geass is being moved to 5 AM, but I'm watching it on ASV, so all is still good.

[macattack]

Why? Because I have the urge to fight the power.


If you pull that stunt I'll bring a boom box with Public Enemy cued.

Maybe it's because I'm a Bears fan, but that image of yours kitschensyngk reminds me of ex-Bear Muhsin Mohammad's comment that the Bears are where "good receivers go to die".

[Jayngfet]

Though I couldn't do anything physically due to being far away you'd have my full support for taking a baseball bat to [AS] for this, hell, tag everywall with

"More anime, less talking ass".s

[MegaJ]

I can't take credit for that motivator, it was on Television Without Pity. :)


If they start advertising the comedy line-up on Saturday now, the people running Adult Swim really do deserve a good kick in the head. There's no excuse for why AS couldn't have integrated the anime with their comedy shows and not continuously mocked fans in their cards. As many others have said I too say "F*** you, Adult Swim"

They have advertised the comedy before the anime on Saturdays, when the lineup had Birdman and Frisky Dingo and shunted the anime to 12:30am and after. And yes, they do deserve a kick in the head because, really there's no excuse why they can't do a general "New Saturday Line-up!" promo with all the shows and their new times. But no, comedy gets promoted.

Really, I'm very frustrated at CN. They have some good shows, but they've been pissing me of for quite a while.

[macattack]

Really, I'm very frustrated at CN. They have some good shows, but they've been pissing me of for quite a while.

You're essentially preaching to the choir here.

[Jayngfet]

You're essentially preaching to the choir here.

Yea, seriously. If [AS] didn't read these boards once and a while I might leave.

[Jtaylor1]

They don't even deserve family guy, they deserve the clevland show for this.

Also in comic book references:

http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/output/motivator4626283.jpg

It appears you hotlinked the image.

[Jayngfet]

It appears you hotlinked the image.

Sorry, I remade it:

http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z17/jayngfet0/?action=view&current=motivator5915674.jpg

[thenewme93]

AS and CN can go to hell now..

[email2003]

WTF? Code Geass moves to 4 A.M. Central time? Adult Swim is starting to tick me off.:mad: I had my timer set for 12 and they changed it. If the show iss getting bad ratings then why in the hell did they get Code Geass R2 after the 1st one is about to end?:mad:

Anime on Adult Swim is dead. Someone get the anime companies of Bandai, FUNimation, and Viz to move to channels like IFC and SciFi.

[thenewme93]

Man...and the thing is if you look at their bumpers they make fun of anime all the time..Which is funny because their originals suck and the top-rated shows were stolen from FOX network...

[Lord Mawdryn]

This is just absolutely shameful on Adult Swim's part, but it makes sense if you eventually want to just kill a show. In the Death Slot, there's no guarantee that Code Geass and Moribito will ever be aired in their entirety, IMO.

Adult Swim has been giving the finger to anime fans for quite awhile, but this is nothing short of a spit in the face and a kick in the balls now...

[email2003]

Could the same be said about Naruto too? That's the only anime they have on CN except for Pokemon.

I'm seeing SciFi might be the next big anime channel now. Big chance for SciFi to take advantage of this and take out CN / Adult Swim. The same goes for IFC too.

[Zero Kagayaki]

ASA fail for anime now

[Master Moron]

I'm not even a fan nor I have ever watched Geass or Moribito but I'm still angry. I really want to do something to rebel against AS that's nonviolent and legal. Maybe start up a campaign to take FG from them and put it on FX or Comedy Central.

Ummm..if you've never watched Code Geass or Moribito then isn't it your own fault that they're moving the anime to 5 am? Geez, you can't expect them to keep a show on the air if no one watches it.

That being said, I can't really expect anyone to watch these shows when no one knows they're on. The Saturday ratings are about as low as they've ever been. But, Adult Swim insists that "advertising doesn't work". Morons. I don't pretend to be an expert at marketing or anything, but this is marketing 101. If any student in a marketing class were to tell their professor that you can get people to buy a new product with no marketing whatsoever he'll probably tell you that you're a moron. I don't understand how these people even got into the industry.

But, you know, it's actually kind of pathetic to be sad over a TV show. I mean, when I first read this news, I was pretty upset. I mean, watching anime on Saturdays was pretty much the highlight of my week, which is pretty sad, actually. I don't really give a damn about Shin Chan and Moribito since those shows suck, but Code Geass was really getting good. Maybe Adult Swim is actually doing us a favor. By taking the anime off of Saturday night we'll be forced to go out on Saturday and get a life. Basically, Adult Swim is trying to get us laid. Yeah, right. Actually, Adult Swim is probably trying to get themselves laid since the Nick at Night guys are getting all of the women.

By the way, I looked up what the ratings during Adult Swim's switch to all comedies. This was posted by LivingFruitVirus in the "Anime-Who's at Fault Thread"


-3 weeks: 372,000 (#1)
-2 weeks: 373,000 (#2, runner up to TBS)
-1 weeks: 368,000 (#2, runner up to Nickelodeon)
revision
1 week: 368,000 (#2, runner up to Nick at Nite)

I believe these were 18-34 ratings, though it didn't indicate so in the original post. These would be far too low to be total ratings. Anyway, in this week's Anything Else thread Mugen posted that last week's 18-34 ratings were 367,000. This means that the ratings are actually a teeny tiny bit lower than they were when Adult Swim had anime on weeknights. Of course, the ratings only seem to get depressed sporadically, and it's quite possible that they'll jump back to 400,000 next week. Still, it will be interesting to see if the changes to the Saturday schedule actually have any impact on the ratings. I predict that eventually Adult Swim will just give up and fill 2/3 of their block with Family Guy. And no, I'm not joking. TBS fills their schedule with huge blocks of one show. Eventually, Adult Swim will do the same.

[Beat]

I think I'd enjoy an Adult Swim that's 2/3rd Family Guy than a lot of what they have now. My opinion of course.

If Adult Swim isn't going to commit to their anime (read- Getting something their demo might enjoy) then sad to say, it might be a good idea to let it die, pick up something else.

[Jtaylor1]

Now I bet they're doing this is because of the obesity rate. Getting rid of anime will not only eliminate obesity, it will also get people to go outside and exercise.

[thenewme93]

If that was true then why would they keep Family Guy?

[Jayngfet]

Now I bet they're doing this is because of the obesity rate. Getting rid of anime will not only eliminate obesity, it will also get people to go outside and exercise.

I don't mean to be offensive but ...Do you listen to you're self talk? Christans all oppose anime, now anime causes obesity.

[kaine23]

This timeslot is stupid. It's probably a result of ratings and/or AS being pissed with Bandai for Sci-Fi getting Gurren and Gundam 00.

[FireStarterLE]

This timeslot is stupid. It's probably a result of ratings and/or AS being pissed with Bandai for Sci-Fi getting Gurren and Gundam 00.

if that's the reason that's just "taking their ball and going home"

I'd rather Bandai give their properties to networks who actually advertise than those who don't and still expect the shows to do well. If that is the reason, then Adult Swim is acting like they deserved them like Bandai owes them for something

[SSJPabs]

Wow. I checked the schedule on the cable box and surprised to find them in the 4am (for me) slot. I've long since worked through any kind of bad feelings to AS; they have disapproved of anime since their financing of Big-O failed, everyone knows it now. Not a huge deal for me, I'm slowly working my way through the Death Note and Claymore Manga, catching up on Oh! My Goddess and reading the Blood+ light novels. I'll be getting Moribito on DVD. I'm fine. I do find it funny as one of my earliest cable-anime memories is watching Robit Carnival and Zeiram the Animation on Sci-Fi back in the early 90s in some hotel room somewhere and now it's back on Sci-Fi again.



But, you know, it's actually kind of pathetic to be sad over a TV show. I mean, when I first read this news, I was pretty upset. I mean, watching anime on Saturdays was pretty much the highlight of my week, which is pretty sad, actually. I don't really give a damn about Shin Chan and Moribito since those shows suck, but Code Geass was really getting good. Maybe Adult Swim is actually doing us a favor. By taking the anime off of Saturday night we'll be forced to go out on Saturday and get a life. Basically, Adult Swim is trying to get us laid. Yeah, right. Actually, Adult Swim is probably trying to get themselves laid since the Nick at Night guys are getting all of the women.

I don't really give a damn about Shin Chan (it's terrible art) and Code Geass since that show is Japanophile wank, but Moribito was really getting good. I go out on Thursdays and Fridays and stay in on Saturday to relax so AS it not doing me any favors, besides if I got laid at a bar my GF would kill me. Then again, it is hard to compete with the Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff.

[tb4000]

I go on the Comcast menu to see what the schedule is, and I'm like.....w...t....F? Did my Comcast like, mix up Wednesday's schedule with Saturday nights? I always used AS as my Saturday night ritual, watching some decent anime before going out for the evening, now I can't even do that. :mad:

I recall Saturday night being Yuyu Hakusho, Champloo, FLCL, the whole nine. Come on, now.

[Pomegranate]

I don't mean to be offensive but ...Do you listen to you're self talk? Christans all oppose anime, now anime causes obesity.

And not to mention, the comedies bring the home the ratings bacon for [AS] more than the anime do, so implying that the practice of placing them(the anime) at graveyard timeslots or just completely pulling them(again, the anime) off the lineup would get more people off the couch to do more "productive" activities just doesn't make any sense what so ever.

On topic, such a shame Moribito was placed at the dreaded 5am slot instead of being given time to find an audience, as it seemed like one of most well-written anime [AS] ever had in quite a while. If Williams Street were stripped of all their Fox acquisitions, which probably brings in the best ratings for their [AS] network, then they'd be forced to incorporate more real diversity to their lineup.:(

[mystikz]

I'm shocked. why would you bump your new premiere animes to 5 am while putting full metal alchemist reruns on at 1130? and dumping the rest for reruns of complete garbage like tim and eric and assy? can't they keep that crap on sunday. I didn't mind SOME of the comedy shows on Sunday but this is blatantly retarded.

[Master Moron]

I don't really give a damn about Shin Chan (it's terrible art) and Code Geass since that show is Japanophile wank, but Moribito was really getting good.

What is "Japanophile wank"?


I go out on Thursdays and Fridays and stay in on Saturday to relax so AS it not doing me any favors, besides if I got laid at a bar my GF would kill me.

If you got laid "at" a bar you'd be arrested for public indecency.

[BigLouMan20]

So long Adult Swim Saturdays. I'll always remember the great memories I had of watching some awesome shows mainly from 2002-2004.

2002-2008 :(


Sorry for the double post.

[animePWNS]

Wow, this sucks harder than a pool drain. I have a feeling we'll be adding all of Adult Swim's anime to this list by the end of the year:


The Schiff (except Lulu)
Diva
Hagi
Saya
Watari
L
Rem
everyone in the Yotsuba Corporation
numerous other criminals
Soichiro Yagami
Mello
Matt
Kiyomi Takada
Teru Mikami
Light Yagami
Misa Amane
Prince Clovis
Yoshino
and anyone else I may have missed

[macattack]

What is "Japanophile wank"?


A controversy of Code Geass is that people have said it takes a heavy pro-Japan, anti-West stance and is rather unfair about it.

[tb4000]

I'm sure they put them in those slots as some kind of insult gag, but i have to ask who in the hell is up at 5am watching anime?:sad:

[Malykoth]

Are they under some kind of contract or obligation to show Moribito? Are they getting back at someone who's forcing them to show it? I mean, I keep hearing that they're a "business", but it doesn't seem like sound business sense to spend money on a show (in this case, Moribito), and then basically throw it away at 5 AM. Why buy it at all? I read somewhere about a dead executive at Williams Street...is he the one who ordered it? Am I missing something here?

[MegaJ]

I wonder if Bleach is in the 11pm slot just to please Viz so CN doesn't lose Naruto.

[J'onn J'onzz]

I don't mean to be offensive but ...Do you listen to you're self talk? Christans all oppose anime, now anime causes obesity.
I think he's joking.

[Paul_Cousins]

This timeslot is stupid. It's probably a result of ratings and/or AS being pissed with Bandai for Sci-Fi getting Gurren and Gundam 00.I would not be surprised if it is that latter and that AS is upset that CN is no long Bandai's sole channel customer.

I don't blame Bandai for it's actions, CN only licence/airs a hand full of their series a year and Bandai wants to get other channels to licence their series to get more marketing and revenue.

[RockmanDash]

5am for Code Geass and Morbito? I would not mind so much about this if the area where I live in did not air things 3 hours ahead of the time. So that means Code Geass comes on at 2am in the morning for me. Looks like I will have to watch it on Adult swim fix for now on :shrug: this feels like a big punch in the face for some reason.

[macattack]

Are they under some kind of contract or obligation to show Moribito? Are they getting back at someone who's forcing them to show it? I mean, I keep hearing that they're a "business", but it doesn't seem like sound business sense to spend money on a show (in this case, Moribito), and then basically throw it away at 5 AM. Why buy it at all? I read somewhere about a dead executive at Williams Street...is he the one who ordered it? Am I missing something here?

Jennifer Davidson is the "dead executive" being spoken of, and around the time she died was when CN picked up Moribito (although it wasn't announced until months after her death).

The rumor is that Davidson intended Moribito for Toonami or normal CN but when she died the executive who took her place simply wanted to get rid of it and shoved it into Adult Swim's hands and basically told them to bury it.

[Jayngfet]

Which exec took over?

[warnerbroman]

Which exec took over?*grinding axe* and where dose it live


stay up for code geass is hard but will be worth it


YOU HEAR ME CN/AS!!! worth it!!!!!

[I.D.Will19??]

I think I'd enjoy an Adult Swim that's 2/3rd Family Guy than a lot of what they have now. My opinion of course.

If Adult Swim isn't going to commit to their anime (read- Getting something their demo might enjoy) then sad to say, it might be a good idea to let it die, pick up something else.

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

I was under the impression that Death Note and Code Geass were insanely popular due to their hype. Each show has its fair share of fanservice, profanity, violence, sexual innuendo, etc. Add those to a good plot, voice acting, very little editing and I don't see the problem.

I can honestly see why shows like Paranoia Agent and Neon Genesis Evangelion didn't work. As much as I like those types of shows, I wouldn't want to watch them very late at night or early in the morning. Too drowsy :sweat:. They should be aired no later than 11:00.

What did Inuyasha and FullMetal Alchemist have that those shows didn't?

[Junko Black]

...And then they wonder why people prefer to pirate anime rather than deal with the network's ass backwards scheduling. :D

Not me personally. I like Ani-Monday better. I hope the Sci-Fi channel launches it five days a week. :anime: Their promo clips are funnier and they at least TRY to advertise instead of pushing their funny, but old shows that are stuck in repeat cycles.

Looks to me that Adult Swim is going for the money-maker, aiming towards the larger comedy audience for more cash. Kind of like what happened to G4 after it merged with techtv and stopped actually being a gaming network and tried to compete with spiketv.

[SSJPabs]

If you got laid "at" a bar you'd be arrested for public indecency.
Why do you think she'd be so pissed off?



stay up for code geass is hard but will be worth it

YOU HEAR ME CN/AS!!! worth it!!!!!
Go to bed at like midnight or something, set your cell phone or clock radio to ring at 5am, wake up, watch the show, then go back to bed. It's what I used to do for Blood+ last Nov/December because I often had to miss the original airings.

Anyone one final point: AS seems to jump around like a crazed flea in terms of schedule. It's no surprise that the night as a whole is so difficult with shows constantly changing times. When a show does bad you have to be prepared to yank it off the block, but how can a show ever build an audience the way things are structured now?

[Dai_Maxwell]

One little prediction: FMA will last 3-7 airings and then either get pulled - only to come back ~6 weeks later on another WHERE THEY LEFT OFF - or it will shift much later. My bet is there were some people who didn't watch FMA tonight because they just didn't want to put up with this **** again.

If FMA stays at its' current time, right after Bleach, I will watch the entire series inspite having the DVD's. If CN changes the schedule again or moves it, I will never give it another chance - on CN.

And just to join in on the chorus, **** you CN/AS!!! As far as I'm concerned, AS on Saturday nights just started ending at 11:00 pm CDT.

[The Man in Black]

What else is there to say? Yes, this was a ****ing retarded move. And it very well could mean the death of anime for at the very least the channel. Except maybe Naruto. And I happen to think that Code Geass is damn awesome for one thing. I haven't watched my recordings of Moribito yet but it's on my to do list. I like the theme song at least, but from even just that it didn't seem like a show for Adult Swim.

I love how they brought back FMA, but are premiering shows at 5 AM. We haven't had to deal with this kind of **** since like Yu Yu Hakusho, Cyborg 009, IGPX, and Gundam SEED were chewed up and spat out by Toonami.

My only other point is that nearly all these anime that have been failing on Adult Swim could have been Toonami's saving grace.

[Raditz]

This was just a ****ing idiotic move on Adult Swim's part.

OH HEY, WE'VE DECIDED TO MOVE CODE GEASS AND MORBITO TO 5AM SO WE CAN AIR SOME OF OUR HILARIOUS SHOWS LIKE ASSY MCGEE ANd TIM & ERIC AWESOME SHOW: GREAT JOB

I mean we can still watch Code Geass on their site, and I'm not too bothered because I've already seen all of Code Geass. But Morbito? Well, better set my Sunday alarm for 5:30 A.M every Sunday Morning now.

[kaine23]

Jennifer Davidson is the "dead executive" being spoken of, and around the time she died was when CN picked up Moribito (although it wasn't announced until months after her death).

The rumor is that Davidson intended Moribito for Toonami or normal CN but when she died the executive who took her place simply wanted to get rid of it and shoved it into Adult Swim's hands and basically told them to bury it.
Ouch. Big ouch.

[Raditz]

I feel bad for Moribito. It goes to Adult Swim instead of Toonami, it airs without it being advertised AT ALL, it's not ASV, and now it's at a ****ing death slot of 5:30 A.M.

[Racattack!Force]

If that happens, then CN/AS/Toonami/Boomerang will shut down and become defunct.

No, Cartoon Network and Boomerang ain't going anywhere, since anime was never really such a major part of their programming. People will be pissed off, but they ain't going no where.



If Shin Chan gets pulled from America, then TV Asahi may have to pull it from their home country.
What? What happens to a cartoon overseas doesn't have any real effect on it's status in it's home country unless the channels are affiliates.


As a matter of fact, turner broadcasting doesn't care about cartoons and anime. They prefer real life sitcoms.
Cartoons and anime are the same time for one. And seeing as how they still care and bother with Cartoon Network, Boomerang, and [adult swim], it should be a sign that they still care about animation. :shrug:


And so does CN.
Have you ever listened to yourself talk? Because I'm a Chirstian, and I don't oppose anime. Anime doesn't affect obesity, and...dude: you are a mix of a pessimist, a noob, and a conspiracy theorist, I'm sorry to say. :shrug:

[Classic Speedy]

Go to bed at like midnight or something, set your cell phone or clock radio to ring at 5am, wake up, watch the show, then go back to bed. It's what I used to do for Blood+ last Nov/December because I often had to miss the original airings. No. One shouldn't have to disrupt their sleep just to catch a premiere, for Pete's sake. Next I suppose you'll ask people to leave work for an hour just to go home and watch the latest episode of a long-running soap opera.

[DarthGonzo]

No, Cartoon Network and Boomerang ain't going anywhere, since anime was never really such a major part of their programming. People will be pissed off, but they ain't going no where.

QFT

Anime was extremely popular before [adult swim] came along and it will continue to be popular even if [adult swim] removed every last anime series from the line-up. And they will continue to do just fine because it's not the anime the people are watching (obviously) it's the comedy.

Life will go on. The world isn't going to end. If people were actually tuning in to the anime on [adult swim] in the first place then they wouldn't be removing series and playing stuff during dead-end hours.

[Scirel]

A controversy of Code Geass is that people have said it takes a heavy pro-Japan, anti-West stance and is rather unfair about it.


That's completely rediculous, since in this continuity, America NEVER EXISTED, and Lelouch's rebellion has shades of the american revolution. IMO, it's actually one of the most pro-western things I've seen.

[Novapocalypse]

Oh for God's sake, go **** yourself, AS.

So What I'm mad about is that Morbito has not even been airing a month... that's just low, AS. Lower than your low, lower than any low. Code Geass is doomed. Doomed.

Well.... at least BLEACH get's a decent slot.

[SSJPabs]

No. One shouldn't have to disrupt their sleep just to catch a premiere, for Pete's sake. Next I suppose you'll ask people to leave work for an hour just to go home and watch the latest episode of a long-running soap opera.Luke and Laura anyone? :D

Calm down, calm down. I'm not trying to excuse AS. I disapprove but they lost me as a loyal viewer not long after Venture Brothers. What I'm saying is, going to bed, waking up, watching it for 30 minutes, than heading back to bed might not be ideal, but if you don't want to record it, then it might work better for you than staying up the entire time. Then I provided an example of how it worked for me.

[RockmanDash]

These timeslot changes make me wonder if they are going to refuse to air Code Geass R2:shrug:.

And seriously if it's true that Morbito was going to be on Toonami but got sent to Adult Swim instead because the new guy in charge does not care at all then that's just messed up.

Bleach's new timeslot actually fits since it's right after Toonami though.

[Master Moron]

Why do you think she'd be so pissed off?


I was making a joke. The way you said you'd get laid "at a bar" implied that you would be having sex while a crowd of drunken patrons cheered you on. Normally, you'd take a girl home with you from the bar, not get laid at the bar.


Luke and Laura anyone? :D

Calm down, calm down. I'm not trying to excuse AS. I disapprove but they lost me as a loyal viewer not long after Venture Brothers. What I'm saying is, going to bed, waking up, watching it for 30 minutes, than heading back to bed might not be ideal, but if you don't want to record it, then it might work better for you than staying up the entire time. Then I provided an example of how it worked for me.

Hmmm...you know, I've heard of body builders who wake up in the middle of their sleep cycle to eat in order to keep their metabolism up. As crazy as that sounds, disrupting your sleep cycle to watch a cartoon sounds crazier.

[warnerbroman]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/steffie_love/ignignokt1.png


I hope adult swim can see this cuz I am doing this as hard as I can

[RockmanDash]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/steffie_love/ignignokt1.png


I hope adult swim can see this cuz I am doing this as hard as I can

Adult Swim probably can't because they are to busy thinking of ways to air more Tim and Eric and Family Guy:shrug:.

[Jtaylor1]

Time Warner's stock is currently at $14.57 per share and it may continue to fall. This may have to do with the anime being removed from CN/AS.

Well, there's always Voltron on Boomerang.

[Space Cadet]

Time Warner's stock is currently at $14.57 per share and it may continue to fall. This may have to do with the anime being removed from CN/AS.

Well, there's always Voltron on Boomerang.

Stop this paranoia talk. I don't want anymore off-topic discussion in this thread.

[DarthGonzo]

Time Warner's stock is currently at $14.57 per share and it may continue to fall. This may have to do with the anime being removed from CN/AS.

It has nothing (nothing) to do with anime being removed from CN or [adult swim]. Nothing at all. They wouldn't be removing this stuff if it was still getting viewers, and it obviously isn't.

Time Warner is just having a bad year in general. That much is very, very true. But the lack of anime on their cable networks has nothing to do with it.

[SSJPabs]

I was making a joke. The way you said you'd get laid "at a bar" implied that you would be having sex while a crowd of drunken patrons cheered you on. Normally, you'd take a girl home with you from the bar, not get laid at the bar.I was spinning your joke on it's head and sending it back at you in a return joke. The humor comes from her being more upset that I had the bad taste to have sex in public than by being unfaithful. You may have graduated law school a year before me, but I can follow word play well enough.


Hmmm...you know, I've heard of body builders who wake up in the middle of their sleep cycle to eat in order to keep their metabolism up. As crazy as that sounds, disrupting your sleep cycle to watch a cartoon sounds crazier.Indeed, but if I hadn't done that, I wouldn't have seen those episodes and would have missed a significant chunk of the story. To me Blood+ is so near a perfect show that I know I'd be regretting it to this day. ED: Remember, we are comparing this to staying up all night until 5am to see it.

[Racattack!Force]

Time Warner's stock is currently at $14.57 per share and it may continue to fall. This may have to do with the anime being removed from CN/AS.

Well, there's always Voltron on Boomerang.
Stop being paranoid. You're scaring the children.

http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/girl-scared-and-wet.jpg

[Jtaylor1]

All right! Geez!


It's time for us to stand up and fight this change!!

[thenewme93]

Anime fans have tried in the past..they get ridiculed in the bumpers.

[Draft]

Time Warner's stock is currently at $14.57 per share and it may continue to fall. This may have to do with the anime being removed from CN/AS.

Well, there's always Voltron on Boomerang.
You're ****ing kidding me right?

Time Warner, a company known for making movies since the 1920s with some of the biggest stars and biggest franchises, along with numerous successful TV productions, as well as being merged with one of the top internet providers ever, is dropping because they are tinkering with moving low rated anime series to dead slots? Makes total sense to me!

[Jtaylor1]

You're ****ing kidding me right?

Time Warner, a company known for making movies since the 1920s with some of the biggest stars and biggest franchises, along with numerous successful TV productions, as well as being merged with one of the top internet providers ever, is dropping because they are tinkering with moving low rated anime series to dead slots? Makes total sense to me!

I'm sorry for being paranoid.

Now, what should we do with the Shin Chan discussions now that the show's removed from the AS lineup?

[Jayngfet]

All right! Geez!


It's time for us to stand up and fight this change!!

As much as I hate to admit it ...You're right, Adult swims being simply self destructive.

But how?

[chdr]

I'm sorry for being paranoid.

Now, what should we do with the Shin Chan discussions now that the show's removed from the AS lineup?

We continue, I guess. It's still going to premiere on the Fix.

[email2003]

These timeslot changes make me wonder if they are going to refuse to air Code Geass R2:shrug:.

And seriously if it's true that Morbito was going to be on Toonami but got sent to Adult Swim instead because the new guy in charge does not care at all then that's just messed up.

Bleach's new timeslot actually fits since it's right after Toonami though.
Here's the funny thing about R2, Adult Swim have already bought the series and have said it will air right after Code Geass concludes.:shrug:

[animePWNS]

Dear Adult Swim,

I'm not gonna complain about the time slot. I can just record it and watch it the following night. I watch whatever anime you have whenever the time suits me. However, I must say this about the 5-6am slot:


STOP STARING AT ME WITH THOSE G**-DAWN EYES ALREADY!!! STOP IT! STOP IT NOW!! STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!


Thank you.:D

[warnerbroman]

Dear Adult Swim,




STOP STARING AT ME WITH THOSE G**-DAWN EYES ALREADY!!! STOP IT! STOP IT NOW!! STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!


Thank you.:Dyeah that and the sound creeps me out in those quiet mornings

[chdr]

Dear Adult Swim,

I'm not gonna complain about the time slot. I can just record it and watch it the following night. I watch whatever anime you have whenever the time suits me. However, I must say this about the 5-6am slot:


STOP STARING AT ME WITH THOSE G**-DAWN EYES ALREADY!!! STOP IT! STOP IT NOW!! STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!


Thank you.:D

Thirded. That closing bumper creeps me the hell out.

[Linkpre]

Adult Swim just aired a bump that basically said of what people do with their time in pie graph form. There were two graphs: One was for weekdays that basically showed people watched adult swim. Then they showed a graph for Saturdays which showed the "watching adult swim' part of the graph scratched out.

I still say they should try to advertise the night alittle more. Maybe they'll see some improvements.

[The Man in Black]

What's obnoxious is I just came across these groups on facebook from a random search:

Get that anime ******** off adult swim (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2218854031)
I Change The Channel When Adult Swim Starts Playing Anime >( (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2229416342)
Official petition for [adult swim] to stop showing anime and other crap (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2214370032)

But on that note, I also came across just one that made me smile:

5,000,000 Against Adult Swim's New Schedule (http://www.new.facebook.com/s.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&init=q&sf=t&n=-1&q=adult+swim+anime&&o=4&k=200000010#/group.php?gid=34902166907)

which I promptly joined and invited my entire friends list to. :D

A wall post on one of them unfortunately made me laugh, tho:
You're stupid. Adult Swim survives on ratings it gets from Anime. (Other crap however, like naruto which, which is 90% crap and 10% anime, for example... they should stop showing)
Oh yea: Inuyasha is for teen aged girls and = crap

[kaine23]

5,000,000 Against Adult Swim's New Schedule (http://www.new.facebook.com/s.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&init=q&sf=t&n=-1&q=adult+swim+anime&&o=4&k=200000010#/group.php?gid=34902166907)

Joined for great justice.

[herbkir]

Ultimately, the Saturday ratings will tell whether this was a smart move to boost Saturday nights or the incredibly stupid move so many folks belive this to be. But if they are expecting the change to be an instant hit without an aggressive promotional campaign, then this schedule change is doomed to failure. Next week's Saturday ratings will be interesting to see.

Without a lot of promotion, I expect the comedies will turn in the same lackluster ratings performance as the anime. If they start making a solid effort to get the word out to the comedy viewers, though, then I expect they'll start getting decent Saturday ratings in a few weeks. (^_*)

[Master Moron]

What's obnoxious is I just came across these groups on facebook from a random search:

Get that anime ******** off adult swim (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2218854031)
I Change The Channel When Adult Swim Starts Playing Anime >( (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2229416342)
Official petition for [adult swim] to stop showing anime and other crap (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2214370032)


The messages on those walls are pretty funny:


I hate that gay anime ******** on adult swim with a firey passion of a thousand suns, when im blazed i wanna see some funny ass family guy and ****.

And that guy was from Penn State. I thought that's supposed to be a good school?

[macattack]

And that guy was from Penn State. I thought that's supposed to be a good school?

All that he means he learned how to "outtest" either the ACT or the SAT. Doesn't mean the guy's actually smart.

[Master Moron]

All that he means he learned how to "outtest" either the ACT or the SAT. Doesn't mean the guy's actually smart.

So, why would someone blaze and then watch Adult Swim, anyway? I thought the whole point of smoking pot was to be social. Why would someone smoke pot and just stay home and watch TV?

[macattack]

People smoke pot just to smoke pot.

[thenewme93]

What's obnoxious is I just came across these groups on facebook from a random search:

Get that anime ******** off adult swim (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2218854031)
I Change The Channel When Adult Swim Starts Playing Anime >( (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2229416342)
Official petition for [adult swim] to stop showing anime and other crap (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2214370032)



The thing is those guys in the pics look like morons who have yet to get laid...

[thenewme93]

Thirded. That closing bumper creeps me the hell out.

Sorry to double-post but what bumper are you talking about..

[warnerbroman]

Sorry to double-post but what bumper are you talking about..the last bumper they show before they show TRU tv commercials then CN bumpers

[Bloody Marquis]

the last bumper they show before they show TRU tv commercials then CN bumpers
Yeah, I hate that bumper. I remember it saying "The Dawn Is Your Enemy" or something like that.

[Jtaylor1]

What's obnoxious is I just came across these groups on facebook from a random search:

Get that anime ******** off adult swim (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2218854031)
I Change The Channel When Adult Swim Starts Playing Anime >( (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2229416342)
Official petition for [adult swim] to stop showing anime and other crap (http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?sid=dee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fsid%3Ddee638ec1003f80cd7d00ca3f2fe14a1%26init%3Dq %26sf%3Dr%26k%3D400000000010%26n%3D-1%26q%3Dadult%2Bswim%2Banime&gid=2214370032)


I getting the feeling that this facebook user prefers soap operas and real life sitcoms instead of cartoons and anime.

People get older and lose interest in anime and other child stuff. It's the part of growing up.

[Malykoth]

People get older and lose interest in anime and other child stuff. It's the part of growing up.
Perhaps I'm an anomaly, but for me it was the other way around. I didn't care for anime at all when I was younger, but I eventually found that some of it is very enjoyable.

[FinnMacCool]

My opinion is that [adultswim] should just stop trying to make Saturdays work. They should just accept that, without a FOX import like Futurama or Family Guy to draw people in, they're not going to get good ratings on a Saturday night. Pretty much every other network out there has accepted that. The biggest favor [as] could do anime fans is take it of Saturdays completely, and instead just have half and hour of it each weekday or something, just give up on the whole anime block concept.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I getting the feeling that this facebook user prefers soap operas and real life sitcoms instead of cartoons and anime.

People get older and lose interest in anime and other child stuff. It's the part of growing up.

Daytime soaps are garbage... teen prime time soaps are a guilty pleasure at this point in my young adult life but I assure you I will never stop enjoying quality cartoons... where-ever they may originate from.

[herbkir]

People get older and lose interest in anime and other child stuff. It's the part of growing up.

Unfortunately, that's all too true. And I feel sorry for such people. They're missing out on things that help make life enjoyable. I'm way past my childhood but I still enjoy "anime and other child stuff."

Hey, my other hobbies are playing with trains (I collect classic Lionel and other vintage toy trains) and playing make-believe (I perform in amateur theater). Growing up shouldn't be equated to growing dour and stodgy, someone fearful of enjoying something most folks don't consider suitable for adults. Not surprisingly, I have very little in common with most people in my age bracket in my neighborhood.

I like cartoons and always have. I have no desire to change that. (^_*)

[Jtaylor1]

I heard there was a rumor speculating on the net that Viz Media is going to stop dubbing Bleach in 2009.

[Antiyonder]

People get older and lose interest in anime and other child stuff. It's the part of growing up.

Only if you truly believe that a show has bearings on your maturity. Cartoon viewing doesn't indicate immaturity, bad behavior like flaming someone on line, making rude noises at the library and flipping a cop off, however, does indicate immaturity.

And going with what herbkir does, a lot of people miss out on shows that are decent just because they are so insecure with their maturity level.

[tb4000]

Hell, back when they were on the non cable networks, my 45 year old dad watched BTAS, X-Men, Gargoyles, and the like all the time without any remorse.

[Justy]

I getting the feeling that this facebook user prefers soap operas and real life sitcoms instead of cartoons and anime.

People get older and lose interest in anime and other child stuff. It's the part of growing up.Anime, and animation in general, is not "child stuff" unless it was developed to be that way (Bakugan, Pokemon, or Baby Looney Toons are good examples). Only the U.S. seems to have this general attitude that anything animated is for kids--unless it's an adult comedy like FG, AD, Simpsons, etc. I know this attitude has declined somewhat in recent years just by the exposure that anime has received, ironically thanks to CN (via Toonami) and Adult Swim. Just for the record, while I have watched and enjoyed anime for over 20 years, I regularly watch non-anime shows like Kim Possible, Ben 10: Alien Force, and Total Drama Island so I doubt I can realistically be called an "anime snob".

The frustrating thing for me about this situation is that Adult Swim started off mainly as a weekly block created to air anime shows with content that made them unacceptable for Toonami. The comedy shows were on an equal footing with the action ones with regular promotion for both. As others have said, [AS] is at fault for the low anime ratings due to poor acquisitions, careless scheduling, and zero promotion. I think the huge ratings they got for Futurama and Family Guy spoiled them and made some execs favor comedy over anime, but, until recently, there were enough execs in anime's corner to stop any changes like this. Unless they have something up their sleeves we don't know about, I think they'll find that replaying the comedy shows (especially bad ones like 12 oz Mouse, Squidbillies, and The Tim and Eric Show) so often will make their ratings even lower. I for one won't be watching [AS] much anymore except for the anime premieres and new Robot Chicken shows. Not much else on right now interests me. I'll make sure I watch new Family Guy and American Dad eps only on FOX, too.

[Master Moron]

Unfortunately, that's all too true. And I feel sorry for such people. They're missing out on things that help make life enjoyable.


Sex is enjoyable.

[Paul_Cousins]

The reason the schedule was changed as that Starz Edge channel shows it's anime at 5:00 AM Sunday. If AS want to screw with anime fans, I will just watch anime on Starz.

[The Man in Black]

You know, this won't happen, but if it did it would be EPIC:

The next Saturday ratings card is something like:

Bleach
Code Geass
Moribito


I would pay so much to see them have to eat their damn words.

[DarthGonzo]

Sex is enjoyable.

As is having a full-time job, being a home owner and having a social life.

I don't watch nearly as many cartoons as I did about 5 years ago before my mom passed away and my adult responsibilities shot through the roof. I have lots of other things going on in my life right now and I definitely don't have the time to sit around watching random cartoons just for the sake of watching random cartoons. And a lot of my friends around my age feel the same way. So it is true, things do change when you get older. I still watch cartoons when I can but I don't seek out new programming or leave CN on long enough to even be able to complain about their scheduling. And it's not that I've grown out of cartoons, it's just that I've got other things going on.

No real need to insinuate that someone who doesn't watch as many cartoons as they used to is missing out on something or need to be felt sorry for.

[Jayngfet]

You know, this won't happen, but if it did it would be EPIC:

The next Saturday ratings card is something like:

Bleach
Code Geass
Moribito


I would pay so much to see them have to eat their damn words.

Agreed, I'd empty my wallet and go without internet for a month just for that.

[herbkir]

If that happened, it would just confirm that [AS] made the correct decision on its anime scheduling. (^_*)

[Jayngfet]

If that happened, it would just confirm that [AS] made the correct decision on its anime scheduling. (^_*)

Which would mean they aren't drinking on the job.

[warnerbroman]

Which would mean they aren't drinking on the job.and they finally stopped using their super-weed they have.....it's true

[Kiryu]

You know, this won't happen, but if it did it would be EPIC:

The next Saturday ratings card is something like:

Bleach
Code Geass
Moribito


I would pay so much to see them have to eat their damn words.

I would literally jump up and cheer at the tv like an idiot if that happened. God that would be priceless, I'd pay to see it happen too!

[ShadowGUN]

I mention this in the Toonami schedule thread but Zap2It (http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?fromTimeInMillis=1222488000000&stnNum=12131&channel=93&weekView=true)is missing AS Saturday schedule for Sep. 27 yet Sunday schedule is there. Could this be a sign that they are going to change schedule yet again? Wouldn't surprised me if they did.

[Master Moltar]

That's the Viewer Night Schedule

[ShadowGUN]

Oh yeah I forgot about that. My bad.

[Sanosuke]

Wow, this sucks harder than a pool drain. I have a feeling we'll be adding all of Adult Swim's anime to this list by the end of the year:


The Schiff (except Lulu)
Diva
Hagi
Saya
Watari
L
Rem
everyone in the Yotsuba Corporation
numerous other criminals
Soichiro Yagami
Mello
Matt
Kiyomi Takada
Teru Mikami
Light Yagami
Misa Amane
Prince Clovis
Yoshino
and anyone else I may have missed
What I found almost as funny as that post intself? The fact that Saya and Hagi never died.:p

*records Code Geass and Moribito* Moving on now....

[Sprocket]

Anime fans just can't be taken seriously, I guess.

You know, people would probably take you a little more seriously if you didn't come off so overly-dramatic and emotional. You sure do seem to 'waste your time' quite a bit being the forum's resident doom-sayer. Never mind that you didn't really feel this way until your beloved One Piece was taken off Toonami. Writing's been on the wall since the anime industry's downturn four years ago.

Just a thought.


That means CN/Toonami/AS along with Boomerang will become defunct in the near future.

If Shin Chan gets pulled from America, then TV Asahi may have to pull it from their home country.

You have no real idea at all how the entertainment industry works, do you?


People will still complain about it, though.

And nothing of value was lost. :)

[garfield15]

Uh...wow


"Hello again 4chan. I am the guy from CN who was here last week talking about gathering info from fans about the AS schedule. I’ve come back today to talk about the sudden schedule change for Code Geass and Guardian of the Spirit.

1st of all I want to apologize to all of you about the change and to let you know this took a lot of us who work for AS by surprise as well last Wednesday. After discussing it we came to find out that this schedule change came directly from the president of CN himself.

It boils down to a combination of low ratings and complaints. 1st off the president told us that CN had been receiving complaints from parents and AS fans for a while about Shin-chan and Code Geass. Shin-chan because of all its foul language and sexual harassments coming from a Kindergartner, and Code Geass for its occasional full frontal nudity (even though we do censor it). Because of these reasons, parents were preventing their children from watching them and fans were turning the channel; causing them both to lose ratings. Shin-chan took the hardest hit. After the 1st couple of weeks after it premiered the ratings for it just kept dropping until it was barely getting over 100,000 viewers.

The decision finally came last Wednesday to cut Shin-chan, Code Geass, and Guardian of the Spirit from AS and replace them with other shows. Since no one here at AS liked Shin-chan all that much it was immediately cut and replaced with FMA. But we did manage to save Code Geass and GotS for a little while but both were shoved to the “Death” time slot of 5:00 and 5:30 am. CN has cut their agreement with Bandai to show Code Geass R1 and R2. They will show the rest of Code Geass R1 at least before it gets cut. Same with GotS.

I know it’s a sad day for you all and us because we really did like Code Geass. Again I apologize to everyone here on behalf of the AS employees who wanted to keep Code Geass going."

This needs to be fake on so many levels before I go and begin rallying the armies.

[J'onn J'onzz]

That's fake.

1) AS doesn't care about their ratings among kids.
2) They've never cared about being offensive before.
3) The Adult Swim staff LOVES Shin-Chan, and have made numerous bumpers about it.

Honestly, before they make crap up, they could at least fact-check.

[veemonjosh]

Well, the "no one at AS likes Shin-Chan" part is a lie right there, because the fact that people at Williams Street love Shin-Chan in the first place is how Funimation was convinced to license it (I recall this being confirmed in an interview).

But yeah, I should've stopped reading after "Hello again 4chan".

[warnerbroman]

That's fake.

1) AS doesn't care about their ratings among kids. and YYH was move because??

2) They've never cared about being offensive before.and yet the censor stuff they could get away with,Jesus!

3) The Adult Swim staff LOVES Shin-Chan, and have made numerous bumpers about it.and look where it is now


Honestly, before they make crap up, they could at least fact-check.ok you got me