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zoombie
09-09-2008, 10:45 AM
With Lilo and Stich being remade into a anime series, if it is successful, what Disney series should they think about next and being remade in the east?
One that comes to mind is American Dragon: Jake Long. If you seen the show, and followed the main villain storyline of the Huntsclan and love story between Jake and Rose, you should agree that would well in anime. I have seen a lot of anime shows have similar storylines.
I think Huntsgirl is a typical anime redemption story character. A lot of anime shows always have at least one of those. You know the type of character we see all the time in anime. Starts out as a antagonist, but you early not really a bad person, and eventully turns good. Characters like Anemone (Eureka 7), Suzaka (Code Geass), etc. What I think they would do is make her more of a regular character and sometimes she things from her perspectives. Show the Huntsman deceplining her for losing, and maybe even show her do something heroic that is not related to the American Dragon, like save someone from muggers.
Another show is Kim Possible, the martial arts fighting, but the writing style of endless villain plots that have no connection to each other, that might need to change. Though in season 4, they did have the plots connect more.
Message to the moderator: If it is okay, can you duplicate this thread in the anime message board?
MonkeyFunk
09-09-2008, 11:08 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing a Darkwing Duck revival headed by Yoshiyaki "Ninja Scroll" Kawajiri.
Admit it - it'd be badass.
Light Lucario
09-10-2008, 02:02 AM
While it would be completely awesome to see American Dragon have an anime remake, I'm not sure if Disney would do that for one of their original animated series. Unless I'm mistaken, whenever they announced Lilo and Stitch the series coming up next on their Channel, it wouldn't be referred to as an original series. They always called it Lilo and Stitch the Series. Besides that, the anime remake looks more of a way to combine the movie and the series together. Lilo and Stitch did well in Japan and Stitch himself has some rides there in Japan. It wasn't too surprising that they wanted their own series.
If this series actually turned out well enough, I think that they would want to go for another one of their popular in Japan movie titles rather than an anime remake of a Disney Channel Original Series. I don't know which one they would want since not all of their popular movies have their own series that can be combined to make a new series, if they would want to keep the forumla of the anime of Stitch in mind. I also think that it might be premature to spectulate any other series Disney may want to make an anime remake since I don't think the series has started showing in Japan yet.
Kazuya Prower
09-10-2008, 03:15 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing an anime on Mickey and friends only if they're not out-of-character or drastically redesigned.
zoombie
09-10-2008, 09:53 AM
I am not saying an American Dragon anime is going to happen, but I thought their main story lines were excellent, and the dramatic up and downs of many anime storylines, and any anime producer should take a good hard look at that show.
I want a Gargoyles anime series (or even a movie)....the original series has some things in common with anime: ongoing storylines,complex heroes and villains who are more than simply "good" or "evil",etc...plus,if I remember correctly,the original series was animated at least in part by Disney's Japanese studio....
Also,even though it originated in Japan,I'd like a Kingdom Hearts series(not CGI,though,I want the character designs from the manga)....I hope if the Lilo and Stitch anime becomes successful,we'll get one....
Gokou Ruri
09-11-2008, 02:17 PM
It sounds like people just want some darker/serious version of their favorite Disney shows, not a Japanese interpretation. Because as we've seen with Powerpuff Girls, Ninja Turtles, and Stitch (and W.I.T.C.H. if we count comics), that's definately not what happens when it gets made by the Japanese. If anything it gets even more bizarre/silly.
Zentron
09-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Heh, an easy one, 'Buzz Lightyear of Star Command' of course!! It would have to be a bit darker than the old series, but it could definitely work, I've already experimented with drawing Mira in the Anime style, and I do believe the series would look good as an Anime!
Burdette25159
09-12-2008, 11:19 PM
My Suggestions:
Bonkers Z
When an Japanese gangster murders Lucky Piquel and his wife, their 9-10 year old daughter Marilyn, vowing revenge for her family's death and Bonkers D. Bobcat go to Japan and they become the Tokyo Police Department's last hope against a megalomaniac gang who has aquired the services of evil toon criminals to stop the twosome. Think of this remake as "Toon Criminal of the week" fodder, various toon criminals from Bonker's past would make guest apperences in the remake.
Recess
It would make a good remake
Darkwing Duck
Good Jap anime goodness!
DarthGonzo
09-12-2008, 11:30 PM
My Suggestions:
Bonkers Z
When an Japanese gangster murders Lucky Piquel and his wife, their 9-10 year old daughter Marilyn, vowing revenge for her family's death...
I know you can get away with a little more in Japan but...hubba hubba whuh??!! I give you points for imagination though.
Blackstar
09-12-2008, 11:35 PM
My Suggestions:
Bonkers Z
When an Japanese gangster murders Lucky Piquel and his wife, their 9-10 year old daughter Marilyn, vowing revenge for her family's death and Bonkers D. Bobcat go to Japan and they become the Tokyo Police Department's last hope against a megalomaniac gang who has aquired the services of evil toon criminals to stop the twosome. Think of this remake as "Toon Criminal of the week" fodder, various toon criminals from Bonker's past would make guest apperences in the remake.
You're suggesting the murder...of 2 parents...in a Disney cartoon....yeah. Anime or not, no one is getting murdered in Disney cartoon. Dark Bonkers? Uh-uh.
Put me down for "None". Anime is overrated, IMHO.
Silly McGooses
09-12-2008, 11:48 PM
For the love of all that is holy, none of them.
This trend of fake American anime dominating every kid's channel has gone far enough.
dth1971
09-13-2008, 12:01 AM
How about an anime version of Disney's 1990's cartoon Mighty Ducks?
ForklifterKING
09-13-2008, 12:03 AM
Two series spring to mind, the first is Gargoyles, what can I say i just fits to me. I mean it would be similar only with a different art style and hopefully with more Puck. Another series that comes to mind is Bonkers told as a gag series you know with the humor that toons are known for.
Silverstar
09-13-2008, 12:25 PM
How about an anime version of Disney's 1990's cartoon Mighty Ducks?
I didn't think we needed an Amercian version, to be honest...
J. B. Warner
09-15-2008, 12:27 PM
Okay, what is this obsession that people have with turning American cartoons into Japanese ones? This isn't the first place I've seen it, either. It seems to me that some folks out there are so closed-minded that they won't allow themselves to enjoy an animated production unless it comes from Japan, and they're convinced that transforming American productions into Japanese ones will somehow make them darker, edgier, and "cooler", as if that's all anime is good for. (I'm not accusing anyone from this thread of thinking like that, I'm just saying I've seen that school of thought expressed before.)
This East-West animation schism really drives me up the wall. Anime is not a genre. Western animation isn't a genre either. They're a medium - and for that matter, they're the exact same medium. They're drawings that move. Why people are bent on changing their country of origin is beyond me.
MonkeyFunk
09-15-2008, 03:20 PM
Why people are bent on changing their country of origin is beyond me.
They're Americans. It's in the water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_programs_based_on_British_programs).
;)
Blackstar
09-15-2008, 04:26 PM
I have to agree with J.B. Warner here; I never understood the desire to see USAnimated cartoons remade as Japanese anime. A desire to see such a thing reeks of coming from anime snobs who refuse to watch anything animated unless it comes from Japan or looks like it came from Japan. I'm not bashing anime or any of it's fans, but anime is not the key to making everything great. I never agreed with the mentaility that anime is some sort of video Cool Whip that makes everything better.
Baltofan
09-15-2008, 04:28 PM
I would love to see Chip'N'Dale Rescue Rangers anime.
DarthGonzo
09-15-2008, 05:40 PM
Okay, what is this obsession that people have with turning American cartoons into Japanese ones? This isn't the first place I've seen it, either. It seems to me that some folks out there are so closed-minded that they won't allow themselves to enjoy an animated production unless it comes from Japan, and they're convinced that transforming American productions into Japanese ones will somehow make them darker, edgier, and "cooler", as if that's all anime is good for. (I'm not accusing anyone from this thread of thinking like that, I'm just saying I've seen that school of thought expressed before.)
This East-West animation schism really drives me up the wall. Anime is not a genre. Western animation isn't a genre either. They're a medium - and for that matter, they're the exact same medium. They're drawings that move. Why people are bent on changing their country of origin is beyond me.
BRAVO, J.B.! BRAVO!
Lavenderpaw
09-15-2008, 08:37 PM
With Lilo and Stich being remade into a anime series, if it is successful, what Disney series should they think about next and being remade in the east?
One that comes to mind is American Dragon: Jake Long. If you seen the show, and followed the main villain storyline of the Huntsclan and love story between Jake and Rose, you should agree that would well in anime. I have seen a lot of anime shows have similar storylines.
I think Huntsgirl is a typical anime redemption story character. A lot of anime shows always have at least one of those. You know the type of character we see all the time in anime. Starts out as a antagonist, but you early not really a bad person, and eventully turns good. Characters like Anemone (Eureka 7), Suzaka (Code Geass), etc. What I think they would do is make her more of a regular character and sometimes she things from her perspectives. Show the Huntsman deceplining her for losing, and maybe even show her do something heroic that is not related to the American Dragon, like save someone from muggers.
I get what your saying,but the people in Japan would probably just view it as a typical anime copying the aforementioned shows above.Now,if it was to be carried out from the season season as a third season with a slightly more anime edge (with no exaggerated sweat drops or w/e) then I could be for that.
Light Lucario
09-15-2008, 09:37 PM
Okay, what is this obsession that people have with turning American cartoons into Japanese ones? This isn't the first place I've seen it, either. It seems to me that some folks out there are so closed-minded that they won't allow themselves to enjoy an animated production unless it comes from Japan, and they're convinced that transforming American productions into Japanese ones will somehow make them darker, edgier, and "cooler", as if that's all anime is good for. (I'm not accusing anyone from this thread of thinking like that, I'm just saying I've seen that school of thought expressed before.)
This East-West animation schism really drives me up the wall. Anime is not a genre. Western animation isn't a genre either. They're a medium - and for that matter, they're the exact same medium. They're drawings that move. Why people are bent on changing their country of origin is beyond me.
Agreed and well said I may add. I can understand why some people would want a Disney cartoon to become an anime, most likely to have a darker and cooler edge to it. However, a cartoon doesn't need to come from Japan for that. Gargoyles proved that to me at least.
Racattack!Force
09-15-2008, 09:51 PM
Agreed and well said I may add. I can understand why some people would want a Disney cartoon to become an anime, most likely to have a darker and cooler edge to it. However, a cartoon doesn't need to come from Japan for that. Gargoyles proved that to me at least.
Besides, what really set the idea of that. I've seen quite a few anime that aren't really all that dark or serious, but rather light and foolhardy most of the time. Sure there were serious moments, but a lot stuff was played for comedy. :shrug: Not all anime is actiony, dark and dead serious...heck, I have yet to watch an anime that was dead serious all the time. :shrug:
Silverstar
09-15-2008, 10:00 PM
Precisely. Not every anime is dark and edgy. There are tons of goofy, silly and light-hearted anime as well. Anime encompasses every genre from comedy, drama, action, adventure, mystery, romance, historical drama, childrens', you name it. It's range is just as wide as cartoons from America, or cartoons from Britain, or cartoons from Canada or cartoons from Italy or anywhere else.
Furthermore, it's not like only the Japanese can do dark and edgy. If you want to see darker edgier Disney cartoons then just say that. They don't have to become Japanimated in order to be that.
It also depends on the show in question. Face it, shows like Goof Troop and Bonkers wouldn't work as bleak and dark no matter what country decided to render them.
Light Lucario
09-15-2008, 10:10 PM
Besides, what really set the idea of that. I've seen quite a few anime that aren't really all that dark or serious, but rather light and foolhardy most of the time. Sure there were serious moments, but a lot stuff was played for comedy. :shrug: Not all anime is actiony, dark and dead serious...heck, I have yet to watch an anime that was dead serious all the time. :shrug:
Oh yeah. I completely forgot about that, despite how most of my favorite anime series are pretty far from dark and serious, at least compared to some other series that people are probably thinking of. My mistake.
MonkeyFunk
09-16-2008, 12:00 PM
A desire to see such a thing reeks of coming from anime snobs who refuse to watch anything animated unless it comes from Japan or looks like it came from Japan.
I wouldn't say that, since an anime snob wouldn't have any interest in Disney series to start with, and certainly wouldn't appreciate it encroaching on their territory (I mean, I've heard people arguing that Powerpiff Girls Z et al aren't real anime because of their source material)
Hordesman
09-16-2008, 03:22 PM
I think Meet the Robinsons would make a good anime series, as long as it stayed in the gag or shonen realm.
Lavenderpaw
09-16-2008, 03:56 PM
I think Meet the Robinsons would make a good anime series, as long as it stayed in the gag or shonen realm.
Or The Incredibles... :D
Racattack!Force
09-16-2008, 04:12 PM
Or The Incredibles... :D
Okay, I must admit that would be kinda awesome if done right. :)
RonDrakenfan17
09-16-2008, 07:24 PM
Kim Possible wouldn't be half bad as anime IMO. I loved that episode Exchange and that was supposed to be for anime fans I belive :)
Harvey Two Face
09-16-2008, 10:09 PM
An anime version of the Aladdin Tv series would be pretty cool, am I right?
phalsephace
09-17-2008, 11:35 AM
being remade into a anime series, if it is successful, what Disney series should they think about next and being remade in the east?
Thats Just it- "if it is successful"?
and thats a BIG "IF"!
I personally hope they don't remake any Disney series into Anime style animation. It's a Horrible Idea to ruin a Good thing. Anime is so cheesy and has too much silly stuff that just ruins it for Me and my circle of friends.
Way to much over acting and beyond believable facial expressions. (i.e. Like on Teens Titans when they laugh or cry) Its purely Pathetic........:mad:
I can't believe people like watching this Junk. Its like watching a Bunch of Whinny babies throw the Biggest temper tantrums throughout the entire episode :confused: on every anime series ever made.:sad:
But, I would love to see Darkwing Duck or Duck Tales brought back to the small screen:D with American style animation and Talent of course! ;)
(http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080214061630AA0XhEi)
MonkeyFunk
09-17-2008, 11:46 AM
Way to much over acting and beyond believable facial expressions. (i.e. Like on Teens Titans when they laugh or cry) Its purely Pathetic........:mad:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7610/aladdinsj4.jpg
I can't believe people like watching this Junk. Its like watching a Bunch of Whinny babies throw the Biggest temper tantrums throughout the entire episode :confused: on every anime series ever made.:sad:
You've seen every anime series ever made!? Wow.
DCU Bat
09-17-2008, 11:49 AM
An anime version of the Aladdin Tv series would be pretty cool, am I right?
It did cross my mind but if we're consider something akin to the Stitch anime, which is basically a cultural reinterpretation from Stitch in Hawaii to Stitch in Okinawa, Then how can a show reinterpreted when the overall theme is set in ancient Middle east?
Though I'm glad you brought up the Aladdin series, Watching those episodes again made appreciate how much quality those shows had so much that I feel that an anime version will just water it down.
Ed Liu
09-17-2008, 12:16 PM
This East-West animation schism really drives me up the wall. Anime is not a genre. Western animation isn't a genre either. They're a medium - and for that matter, they're the exact same medium. They're drawings that move. Why people are bent on changing their country of origin is beyond me.
Just to play devil's advocate for a minute...
What you say about Western animation and anime both being the same medium is true in the strictest technical sense. There may be small differences in process (anime tends to record after animation is done; Western cartoons tend to record before), but at heart, they are all "drawings that move."
However, that view also happily papers over the real cultural and stylistic differences between Western cartoons and Japanese anime on technological grounds, which I don't think is entirely fair, either. Attitudes and styles are different (and fairly evident) between British films or TV shows and American ones, despite a common language and heritage. Add in entirely different linguistic and cultural development and I can't see how you can rationally lump everything together without acknowledging that there IS a difference, even if you can't necessarily articulate what it is. The platitude that "people are the same everywhere" is true, but accepting that as pure and blind truth means you'll miss the real, genuine differences between cultures, which can result in a funny story if you're an exchange student, a blown business deal if you're a businessman missing the signs, or a lot of unnecessary dead people if you're a soldier serving in a foreign land misunderstanding what's really happening around you.
Of course, people who say things like "anime always makes everything better" or "anime always makes everything suck" are happily papering over those differences as well. Just for different reasons.
-- Ed
phalsephace
09-17-2008, 12:39 PM
You've seen every anime series ever made!? Wow.
Yes, Regretfully- I have seen more than my share of the Filth :sweat:
I'm very ashamed to admit it:sad:
Will you please forgive me Father? :evil:
Get real- grow up dude- its an expression
(I.E.)
yeah everyone was there- (at a party)
(No different than)
I have tons of albums in my collection.....
Get a Job- Grow up!:eek: Not everyone has to share your opinions in life!
MonkeyFunk
09-17-2008, 12:53 PM
Get real- grow up dude- its an expression
(I.E.)
yeah everyone was there- (at a party)
(No different than)
I have tons of albums in my collection.....
The point of such expressions is that they get a rough meaning across as well as is needed. Your comment was just an out-and-out inaccuracy.
People like you are why other countries hate us!:mad:
:confused:
Usagi-chan
09-17-2008, 01:10 PM
Thats Just it- "if it is successful"?
and thats a BIG "IF"!
I personally hope they don't remake any Disney series into Anime style animation. It's a Horrible Idea to ruin a Good thing. Anime is so cheesy and has too much silly stuff that just ruins it for Me and my circle of friends.
Way to much over acting and beyond believable facial expressions. (i.e. Like on Teens Titans when they laugh or cry) Its purely Pathetic........:mad:
I can't believe people like watching this Junk. Its like watching a Bunch of Whinny babies throw the Biggest temper tantrums throughout the entire episode :confused: on every anime series ever made.:sad:
(http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080214061630AA0XhEi)
I'm sorry, but you're very closed-minded and uneducated as to anime. :| Sure, most of the stuff they show in America is like that, but America only picks up what they think people "Know". Anime covers a wide range of genres, including serious, realistic ones. Just because you've only seen the silly, childish stuff doesn't mean that's all anime is. (Oh, and Teen Titans isn't anime. It's made in America.)
Zentron
09-17-2008, 01:18 PM
Okay, what is this obsession that people have with turning American cartoons into Japanese ones? This isn't the first place I've seen it, either. It seems to me that some folks out there are so closed-minded that they won't allow themselves to enjoy an animated production unless it comes from Japan, and they're convinced that transforming American productions into Japanese ones will somehow make them darker, edgier, and "cooler", as if that's all anime is good for. (I'm not accusing anyone from this thread of thinking like that, I'm just saying I've seen that school of thought expressed before.)
This East-West animation schism really drives me up the wall. Anime is not a genre. Western animation isn't a genre either. They're a medium - and for that matter, they're the exact same medium. They're drawings that move. Why people are bent on changing their country of origin is beyond me.Well, one reason is, Western animation looks crap! It's flat, dull, no emotion and unimpressive! Plus, I've noticed a lot more animation mistakes that you find in Anime.
MonkeyFunk
09-17-2008, 01:21 PM
Well, one reason is, Western animation looks crap! It's flat, dull, no emotion and unimpressive!
Well, this topic went downhill fast.
Okay, I'm not sure where to start. How about this:
Explain to me (using a coherent critical approach) why Jan Svankmajer's films are flat, dull, emotionless and unimpressive.
I'm waiting.
Zentron
09-17-2008, 01:35 PM
Well, this topic went downhill fast.
Okay, I'm not sure where to start. How about this:
Explain to me (using a coherent critical approach) why Jan Svankmajer's films are flat, dull, emotionless and unimpressive.
I'm waiting.Never heard of him!! :shrug:
*5 minutes later* Ah yeah, the 'Faust' guy.... god I hated that movie!!
I'll produce a 10 page thesis as to why for you later!!
DarthGonzo
09-17-2008, 01:57 PM
Well, one reason is, Western animation looks crap! It's flat, dull, no emotion and unimpressive! Plus, I've noticed a lot more animation mistakes that you find in Anime.
Western animation? Basically everything made in this country right?
:shrug: Yeah this thread has just become completely meaningless.
MonkeyFunk
09-17-2008, 02:05 PM
I'm also amused that these sentiments are coming from the owner of a Totally Spies fansite. Now that's a flat, dull, emotionless, unimpressive Western cartoon.
I'm hoping his thesis will be entitled "why Totally Spies is better than the combined filmography of Jan Svankmajer, one of the most admired filmmakers in animation today". Should be an interesting read.
Classic Speedy
09-17-2008, 02:07 PM
It's not a matter of wanting something to be anime because of some inherent desire to see something 'improved', but to see a different interpretation of the same franchise. It's part of the reason why I enjoyed The Animatrix so much; the anthology offered many unique twists on The Matrix, each with their own art styles and storytelling. It's variety, not anime elitism.
Zentron
09-17-2008, 02:17 PM
Western animation? Basically everything made in this country right?Hmmm, yah!
I'm also amused that these sentiments are coming from the owner of a Totally Spies fansite. Now that's a flat, dull, emotionless, unimpressive Western cartoon.Yup, I do have a site in that direction, but it's not an true fansite, there are elements of fandom but in case you didn't notice, it's called 'Totally My Spies'. As in, the same characters, but done, MY way, where I've taken them and drawn them more closer to the style in which they are trying hard, yet failing, to emulate... ANIME!
Not sure if this one has been mentioned, but might work, Tarzan!
Silverstar
09-17-2008, 03:22 PM
You've gotta love all of the elitism and sweeping generalizations that have been running rampant through this thread whilst I was away at work. Really, it's great.
So far, I've read that "Anime is filth" and "Western animation looks like crap".
So by these arguments, Akira, My Neighbor Totoro, Ghost in the Shell, Princess Mononoke and Kiki's Delivery Service are all filth, and Justice League, Gargoyles, Futurama, and all of Disney's animated features look like crap.
I'm learning so much here. And the thread proceeds to circle the drain. :shrug:
Zentron
09-17-2008, 04:02 PM
You've gotta love all of the elitism and sweeping generalizations that have been running rampant through this thread whilst I was away at work. Really, it's great.
So far, I've read that "Anime is filth" and "Western animation looks like crap".
So by these arguments, Akira, My Neighbor Totoro, Ghost in the Shell, Princess Mononoke and Kiki's Delivery Service are all filth, and Justice League, Gargoyles, Futurama, and all of Disney's animated features look like crap.Yeah, lots of contradicting information! Though, someone who watches both types, can clear things up!
Anyone else think Hercules might make a good transition?
Chykin
09-17-2008, 04:07 PM
I'm also amused that these sentiments are coming from the owner of a Totally Spies fansite. Now that's a flat, dull, emotionless, unimpressive Western cartoon.
I'm hoping his thesis will be entitled "why Totally Spies is better than the combined filmography of Jan Svankmajer, one of the most admired filmmakers in animation today". Should be an interesting read.
Bravo. :D
You've gotta love all of the elitism and sweeping generalizations that have been running rampant through this thread whilst I was away at work. Really, it's great.
So far, I've read that "Anime is filth" and "Western animation looks like crap".
So by these arguments, Akira, My Neighbor Totoro, Ghost in the Shell, Princess Mononoke and Kiki's Delivery Service are all filth, and Justice League, Gargoyles, Futurama, and all of Disney's animated features look like crap.
I'm learning so much here. And the thread proceeds to circle the drain. :shrug:
Haha, no kidding. I'm waiting for the guy that says that anything that isn't Russian Soviet Realist is a complete waste of effort.
To make some sort of half-hearted attempt to put this back on track, I do think Gargoyles would work well and especially newer TV fare like Kim Possible and American Dragon. Usually, I find the adaptations work better if they're action-oriented. Also, I'd be curious on what the Japanese would do to Jake Long and the other characters to make them act "American"
And while the property certainly isn't particularly Disney's, I'd like to see an Japanese animated adaptation of The Hunchback of Notre Dame (or any other animation studio that is more willing to tackle Hugo's more controversial themes)
MonkeyFunk
09-17-2008, 04:19 PM
Yeah, lots of contradicting information! Though, someone who watches both types, can clear things up!
How about these people (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=214768), then? The list contains quite a large number of Western cartoons, and since it was compiled by Japanese critics you can hardly accuse them of bias. That should put paid to any claims that Western cartoons are "crap" - unless, of course, anyone in this thread wants to say that they know more about the subject than the obviously well-informed people who compiled the list.
And while the property certainly isn't particularly Disney's, I'd like to see an Japanese animated adaptation of The Hunchback of Notre Dame (or any other animation studio that is more willing to tackle Hugo's more controversial themes)
There was a Les Misarables anime, so I'd say that's only a matter of time...
Darklordavaitor
09-17-2008, 04:27 PM
Thats Just it- "if it is successful"?
and thats a BIG "IF"!
I personally hope they don't remake any Disney series into Anime style animation. It's a Horrible Idea to ruin a Good thing. Anime is so cheesy and has too much silly stuff that just ruins it for Me and my circle of friends.
Way to much over acting and beyond believable facial expressions. (i.e. Like on Teens Titans when they laugh or cry) Its purely Pathetic........:mad:
I can't believe people like watching this Junk. Its like watching a Bunch of Whinny babies throw the Biggest temper tantrums throughout the entire episode :confused: on every anime series ever made.:sad:
But, I would love to see Darkwing Duck or Duck Tales brought back to the small screen:D with American style animation and Talent of course! ;)
(http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080214061630AA0XhEi)
So, what animes have you... forget it.
Well, one reason is, Western animation looks crap! It's flat, dull, no emotion and unimpressive! Plus, I've noticed a lot more animation mistakes that you find in Anime.
And what do you think of the days of... forget it.
I'd come up with some typical arguements, but I don't even see a reason why at this point. Carry on.
Light Lucario
09-17-2008, 09:16 PM
Thats Just it- "if it is successful"?
and thats a BIG "IF"!
I personally hope they don't remake any Disney series into Anime style animation. It's a Horrible Idea to ruin a Good thing. Anime is so cheesy and has too much silly stuff that just ruins it for Me and my circle of friends.
Way to much over acting and beyond believable facial expressions. (i.e. Like on Teens Titans when they laugh or cry) Its purely Pathetic........:mad:
I can't believe people like watching this Junk. Its like watching a Bunch of Whinny babies throw the Biggest temper tantrums throughout the entire episode :confused: on every anime series ever made.:sad:
But, I would love to see Darkwing Duck or Duck Tales brought back to the small screen:D with American style animation and Talent of course! ;)
Wow. I don't think you've seen much of any anime series if you have such a closed minded attitude about them like that. It also doesn't help your argument when you use an example like Teen Titans, which was Western Animation, and it used those kind of facial expressions seen in some anime series because that would probably attract people and/or it was a creative decision on part of the writers and animators.
Well, one reason is, Western animation looks crap! It's flat, dull, no emotion and unimpressive! Plus, I've noticed a lot more animation mistakes that you find in Anime.
I also don't think that you've seen a lot of the great Western animated movies and series, such as Justice League, Avatar, Garogyles and Disney's animated movies, if you honestly think that.
Well, this topic went downhill fast
True, but when was this thread on top of that hill?
Lavenderpaw
09-17-2008, 09:47 PM
Okay, I must admit that would be kinda awesome if done right. :)
CGI anime,yeah. ;)
Zentron
09-17-2008, 09:52 PM
I also don't think that you've seen a lot of the great Western animated movies and series, such as Justice League, Avatar, Garogyles and Disney's animated movies, if you honestly think that.Heh, I have watch a smeg more Western animation than you may think! Titan AE, Iron Giant, Bambi (when I was little... hated it even then), Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (same as with Bambi... a lot of cheating went on in that movie), Treasure Planet, Flash Gordon (now that had REALLY naff animation), Totally Spies, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe (crappy Filmation version), Winx Club, UBOS... the list of series and movies that I have seen goes on and on! BTW, I've omitted all I know as being animated in Japan or Corea, out of fairness for Western animators.
As for Avatar, it may have been written in America, but the animation is Japanese... then again, so was Gargoyles, hmm!
Blackstar
09-17-2008, 10:02 PM
:confused: What the French Toast? At what point did this discussion devolve into a verbal butting of the heads between the ANIME SUXX!! people and the ANIME RULZ!! people? A battle of wits between anime snobs and anime haters is ironic, because both sides typically fight unarmed.
Unless you've seen every single anime series that has ever been made or every single USAnimated series that has ever been made, it's quite impossible for you to claim that "All anime sucks" or that "All American cartoons look the same". Saying that all anime or USAnimation sucks is like saying that all books suck, or that all movies suck, or that all all TV shows suck. Animation is far too braod and the variety is much too widespread for it to be summed up in a single sentence. And the idea that anime is somehow a different genre from cartoons is just flat out dumb. Anime is animation, just Japanese animation.
I really wish that fanboys and fangirls would cease with these pointless debates over which is better and simply judge an animated seies by the quality of it's content, and not by it's country of origin.
Light Lucario
09-17-2008, 10:05 PM
Heh, I have watch a smeg more Western animation than you may think! Titan AE, Iron Giant, Bambi (when I was little... hated it even then), Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (same as with Bambi... a lot of cheating went on in that movie), Treasure Planet, Flash Gordon (now that had REALLY naff animation), Totally Spies, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe (crappy Filmation version), Winx Club, UBOS... the list of series and movies that I have seen goes on and on! BTW, I've omitted all I know as being animated in Japan or Corea, out of fairness for Western animators.
As for Avatar, it may have been written in America, but the animation is Japanese... then again, so was Gargoyles, hmm!
I was thinking that by Western animation, you were talking about animated shows that are aired and animated in the Western Hemisphere. You've seen Iron Giant, Bambi, and Treasure Planet and you still think that Western animation looks dull and flat? Wow. I could possibly understand Treasure Planet, but how can you explain Iron Giant?
By the way, Avatar wasn't animated in Japan. It was in Korea, I believe. And please let's not enter the annoying debate of whether or not Avatar is an anime. I've seen that more than enough times to be tired of it.
:confused: What the French Toast? At what point did this discussion devolve into a verbal butting of the heads between the ANIME SUXX!! people and the ANIME RULZ!! people? A battle of wits between anime snobs and anime haters is ironic, because both sides typically fight unarmed.
Unless you've seen every single anime series that has ever been made or every USAnimated series that has ever been made, it's quite impossible for you to claim that "All anime sucks" or that "All American cartoons look the same". Saying that all anime or USAnimation sucks is like saying that all books suck, or that all movies suck, or that all all TV shows suck. Animation is far too braod and the variety is much to widespread for it to be generalized. And the idea that anime is somehow a different genre from cartoons is just flat out dumb. Anime is animation, just Japanese animation.
I really wish that fanboys and fangirls would cease with these pointless debates over which is better and simply judge an animated seies by the quality of it's content, and not by it's country of origin.
*claps happily in the background*
Well put and I completely agree. I could not say it any better than that.
Darklordavaitor
09-17-2008, 10:08 PM
:confused: What the French Toast? At what point did this discussion devolve into a verbal butting of the heads between the ANIME SUXX!! people and the ANIME RULZ!! people? A battle of wits between anime snobs and anime haters is ironic, because both sides typically fight unarmed.
Unless you've seen every single anime series that has ever been made or every USAnimated series that has ever been made, it's quite impossible for you to claim that "All anime sucks" or that "All American cartoons look the same". Saying that all anime or USAnimation sucks is like saying that all books suck, or that all movies suck, or that all all TV shows suck. Animation is far too braod and the variety is much to widespread for it to be summed up in a single sentence. And the idea that anime is somehow a different genre from cartoons is just flat out dumb. Anime is animation, just Japanese animation.
I really wish that fanboys and fangirls would cease with these pointless debates over which is better and simply judge an animated seies by the quality of it's content, and not by it's country of origin.
Well-said. I think this thread has run it's course, so I'll lock it.
Wait, I'm not a TZ mod. Dangit.
Zentron
09-17-2008, 10:16 PM
:confused: What the French Toast? At what point did this discussion devolve into a verbal butting of the heads between the ANIME SUXX!! people and the ANIME RULZ!! people? A battle of wits between anime snobs and anime haters is ironic, because both sides typically fight unarmed.I've tried to move away from the subject and back on topic, but some people just won't let things go! As for quality of content, you can have the greatest writing in the world, but if to animate using stick-men/women, it's wasted!
I'm not sure what else will truly make a good Anime conversion, I think most of the best ones have been covered... who knows, there might be another!
Daxdiv
09-17-2008, 10:17 PM
True, but when was this thread on top of that hill?
I understand that might be a rhetorical question and all, but I'll still say never, what with people saying that Anime is overrated, and having a Remake/Re image is bad idea. I don't see how a re image is bad, the Office seems to benefit from this. If it comes to America, I will watch it, I like Stitch, and to me seeing it from a Japanese view point won't be that different from seeing what it like from a Hawaiian viewpoint, since they are different cultures. Sure Jokes have to be rewritten for the Localization process, but that common for me with other Anime and Video Games that come from the Land of the Rising Sun.
Personally I am going to see how Stitch fares first before making any choices, since the only anime I want out of Disney is a Kingdom Hearts one, sure they'll need Square for their characters (Cloud, Squall, Yuffie, Tifa), but from what I understand, I think Disney owns the rights to the original characters from the game (Sora, Riku, Kairi, Namine, Organization XIII)
Now Excuse me I am going to listen to "Requiem for a Dream" it seems appropriate for this thread for some reason.
Zentron
09-17-2008, 10:43 PM
I was thinking that by Western animation, you were talking about animated shows that are aired and animated in the Western Hemisphere. You've seen Iron Giant, Bambi, and Treasure Planet and you still think that Western animation looks dull and flat? Wow. I could possibly understand Treasure Planet, but how can you explain Iron Giant?Umm, Iron Giant sucked! I couldn't see what all the fuss was about, it was the second biggest pile of turd I had seen that year!
I By the way, Avatar wasn't animated in Japan. It was in Korea, I believe. And please let's not enter the annoying debate of whether or not Avatar is an anime. I've seen that more than enough times to be tired of it.I wouldn't think of going into that debate!
Are there anymore viable series, or have we all run out?
DarthGonzo
09-17-2008, 11:04 PM
Umm, Iron Giant sucked! I couldn't see what all the fuss was about, it was the second biggest pile of turd I had seen that year!
Unfortunately, it would appear that your in the minority as far as opinions of The Iron Giant are concerned. It's far from my favorite animated film, but even I'll admit it's a really cool film.
In fact, I haven't seen it in years. I should probably pop in the DVD one of these days.
Gokou Ruri
09-17-2008, 11:41 PM
I don't see how a re image is bad, the Office seems to benefit from this. If it comes to America, I will watch it, I like Stitch, and to me seeing it from a Japanese view point won't be that different from seeing what it like from a Hawaiian viewpoint, since they are different cultures. Sure Jokes have to be rewritten for the Localization process, but that common for me with other Anime and Video Games that come from the Land of the Rising Sun. It pretty much boils down to racism. They think that if a Japanese person does it, it'll be dark and gritty and edgy, because that's the only type of shows Japan makes (ignoring the fact all of Japan's adaptions of American shows and stuff I can think of have actually been more lighthearted)
MonkeyFunk
09-18-2008, 04:35 AM
Heh, I have watch a smeg more Western animation than you may think! Titan AE, Iron Giant, Bambi (when I was little... hated it even then), Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (same as with Bambi... a lot of cheating went on in that movie), Treasure Planet, Flash Gordon (now that had REALLY naff animation), Totally Spies, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe (crappy Filmation version), Winx Club, UBOS...
Er... yeah, I'll admit that most of those are rubbish. But, again, how many of the Western cartoons on this list (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=214768) have you seen?
Judging Western animation by UBOS, Winx Club and Filmation while ignoring figures such as Norstein, Back, Atamanov and McLaren is really no better than judging all anime by Pokemon and Dragonball Z while ignoring Studio Ghibli and Satoshi Kon.
True, but when was this thread on top of that hill?
To be honest, before the pedantry set in, I honestly thought it had potential to be quite fun.
Ed Liu
09-18-2008, 11:19 AM
I don't want to lock the thread for the folks who want to actually, you know, TALK about this, but it looks like we need to set down some ground rules.
1. If you're just going to post about how cartoons from (AMERICA | JAPAN) are all (AWESOME | CRAP), don't post.
2. If you're just going to respond to a person who just posted about how cartoons from (AMERICA | JAPAN) are all (AWESOME | CRAP), don't post.
3. If you're not going to talk about a specific show, don't post.
4. If you're just going to say, "I think X would be awesome in anime," please talk about why and how you'd like to see it.
I would have thought these rules would be blitheringly obvious out of common courtesy if nothing else, but apparently I was wrong about that. If we have to start handing out infractions and deleting posts because someone can't figure out these rules or thinks that they somehow don't apply to him/her, we'll be happy to oblige.
-- Ed
Zentron
09-18-2008, 03:52 PM
Er... yeah, I'll admit that most of those are rubbish. But, again, how many of the Western cartoons on this list have you seen?.Nearly all of them! A lot of them were required viewing when I was working for my BA in animation... others I just bought of my own accord, or watched on TV, or at an animation festival such as Annecy!
I've said this one already, but I do think Buzz Lightyear of Star Command would make the best transition to Anime, a lot of it is already on the same path design wise!
MonkeyFunk
09-18-2008, 05:16 PM
Say, Clerks TAS was a Disney Television Animation production. A remake headed by the crew behind Paranoia Agent would be interesting - Kevin Smith's characteristic dialogue-based comedy mixed with Satoshi Kon's engaging visual presentation into the characters' internal states.
Might last longer, too.
Jill Faye
09-18-2008, 05:25 PM
I want to see an anime of something like American Dragon Jake Long. Heck maybe a sequel series where they're all older done with an anime flair and I don't just mean done with anime style, but has a really intense story to it.
Darklordavaitor
09-18-2008, 06:00 PM
I want to see an anime of something like American Dragon Jake Long. Heck maybe a sequel series where they're all older done with an anime flair and I don't just mean done with anime style, but has a really intense story to it.
If there's anything I truly need from Disney, it's a third season of AD:JL. There's so much more that Matt, Eddie, Jeff, and crew could of done with the show, but Disney Channel seems to hate anything with a serious plot nowadays.
Harvey Two Face
09-19-2008, 02:41 AM
Say, Clerks TAS was a Disney Television Animation production. A remake headed by the crew behind Paranoia Agent would be interesting - Kevin Smith's characteristic dialogue-based comedy mixed with Satoshi Kon's engaging visual presentation into the characters' internal states.
Might last longer, too.
Were there only 6 episodes?
Light Lucario
09-19-2008, 02:42 AM
I understand that might be a rhetorical question and all, but I'll still say never, what with people saying that Anime is overrated, and having a Remake/Re image is bad idea. I don't see how a re image is bad, the Office seems to benefit from this. If it comes to America, I will watch it, I like Stitch, and to me seeing it from a Japanese view point won't be that different from seeing what it like from a Hawaiian viewpoint, since they are different cultures. Sure Jokes have to be rewritten for the Localization process, but that common for me with other Anime and Video Games that come from the Land of the Rising Sun.
Personally I am going to see how Stitch fares first before making any choices, since the only anime I want out of Disney is a Kingdom Hearts one, sure they'll need Square for their characters (Cloud, Squall, Yuffie, Tifa), but from what I understand, I think Disney owns the rights to the original characters from the game (Sora, Riku, Kairi, Namine, Organization XIII)
Now Excuse me I am going to listen to "Requiem for a Dream" it seems appropriate for this thread for some reason.
It was actually a sarcastic question, but you were close with your guess of it being rhetorical though. I also agree with you that this thread has pretty much gone downhill, but at least some ground rules have been made to get it off the ground. As for Stitch, I'm not sure if I would watch it if it ever made its way here. I might if I hear that its a fun, cute series to watch, but if it doesn't turn out so well, then I'll just be content with the movies of Lilo and Stitch.
If there's anything I truly need from Disney, it's a third season of AD:JL. There's so much more that Matt, Eddie, Jeff, and crew could of done with the show, but Disney Channel seems to hate anything with a serious plot nowadays.
I completely agree with you. There was so much potential American Dragon had for a third season, especially with how rushed the ending was and how it really left too many unanswered questions for my tastes. Unfortunately, Disney Channel doesn't want to do that at the moment since they like giving their kidcoms attention instead.
Daxdiv
09-19-2008, 11:58 AM
If there's anything I truly need from Disney, it's a third season of AD:JL. There's so much more that Matt, Eddie, Jeff, and crew could of done with the show, but Disney Channel seems to hate anything with a serious plot nowadays.
The only thing I can imagine if they change Jake Long name to Ryu or something, and being called the Japanese Dragon. But yeah I do want to see 3rd season of Jake Long, just because it was getting better in season two, sad shame that it ended on that note that gave no good sense of closure.
MonkeyFunk
09-19-2008, 01:19 PM
I think it's worth mentioning that a number of Disney properties (films, though, not series) already have anime counterparts based on the same source material. Off the top of my head I can think of anime versions of Snow White, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan and The Jungle Book, with Miyazaki's latest film based on The Little Mermaid.
Out of that lot the only one I've seen is Alice, which has an interesting twist by sending alice to Wonderland and back again in each episode - she finds an entrance, and then eventually snaps back to reality (one minute she's sliding down the Jabberwocky's tail, the next she's sliding down the banister)
Jill Faye
09-19-2008, 02:17 PM
I don't get why Disney only wants to focus on comedy. They had good cartoons back in the 90s that were action packed with some comedy but had good plots and characters like the Rescue Rangers and Duck Tales which have a good fan following even today. Don't they want that for all their cartoons? I don't like the Phineas and Ferb or Brandy and Mr. Wiskers toons at all.
Horrorificus
09-20-2008, 11:44 AM
:confused: What the French Toast? At what point did this discussion devolve into a verbal butting of the heads between the ANIME SUXX!! people and the ANIME RULZ!! people? A battle of wits between anime snobs and anime haters is ironic, because both sides typically fight unarmed.
Unless you've seen every single anime series that has ever been made or every single USAnimated series that has ever been made, it's quite impossible for you to claim that "All anime sucks" or that "All American cartoons look the same". Saying that all anime or USAnimation sucks is like saying that all books suck, or that all movies suck, or that all all TV shows suck. Animation is far too braod and the variety is much too widespread for it to be summed up in a single sentence. And the idea that anime is somehow a different genre from cartoons is just flat out dumb. Anime is animation, just Japanese animation.
I really wish that fanboys and fangirls would cease with these pointless debates over which is better and simply judge an animated seies by the quality of it's content, and not by it's country of origin.
A very wise post.It rings of truth from every sentence.
Darklordavaitor
09-23-2008, 05:29 PM
Thinking about it last night, a Japanese AD:JL spin-off that focuses on the Japanese Dragon done in an anime style would actually be pretty interesting, if done right and not a complete remapping of Jake's show. For example, to avoid repetition, the show could take place after "Homecoming", so not to have a Japanese Huntsclan, and instead focus on a new threat. And since hip-hop and skateboarding aren't exactly Japanese culture, we should find new hobbies for our lead dragon to enjoy.
There's actually a whole world of possibilties for Dragon spin-offs Disney could of done, but now we'll never know. I'd of loved to of seen a Korean Dragon: Sun Park DTV adding depth to her and her history, for example.
Lavenderpaw
09-23-2008, 06:50 PM
Umm, Iron Giant sucked! I couldn't see what all the fuss was about, it was the second biggest pile of turd I had seen that year!
I wouldn't think of going into that debate!
Are there anymore viable series, or have we all run out?
There are few people who have seen it and detested it.I,for one,love this movie.Do you want to know why?It has heart.It has characters that you can care about.It has real-life situations.It teaches lessons without being condescending or attached on.It has no talking animals;everyone contributes some level of comedy.I have acutally felt some depression bouts toward the end because it was so powerful.This story is honest and tries it's best to accurately depict the timeline for which it is set in,1957-1958.
The people who made this movie,Brad Bird and the rest of his staff,made this movie to tell a great story.Not to make money.Maybe you should consider how other people will respond to your outright and half-baked verbal assaults about moives and/or shows that could mean something to them.Everything you have basically attacked are some of America and Japan's best.I could understand your reasons for not liking some shows and movies if you actually had real reasons to back up your otherwise ill-founded remarks.IMHO,I believe you secretly hold dear the very things you put down because you're afraid you cannot live up to such standards,which isn't necessarily true.But I will have you know,and I say this because it is the absolute truth,that The Iron Giant does not 'suck'.Suck is the lesser severe form of the more vulgar word Suckling is what an infantile creature does.I will have you know,the word suck does not exist or apply to any of these movies or shows you have mentioned.This 'criticism' you have tried to impress upon us has failed.I stand by what I say one-hundred percent.
Good day. :)
Zentron
09-24-2008, 08:01 PM
There are few people who have seen it and detested it.I,for one,love this movie. Do you want to know why?It has heart. It has characters that you can care about. It has real-life situations. It teaches lessons without being condescending or attached on. It has no talking animals; everyone contributes some level of comedy. I have actually felt some depression bouts toward the end because it was so powerful. This story is honest and tries it's best to accurately depict the time-line for which it is set in, 1957-1958.
The people who made this movie,Brad Bird and the rest of his staff, made this movie to tell a great story. Not to make money. Maybe you should consider how other people will respond to your outright and half-baked verbal assaults about moives and/or shows that could mean something to them. Everything you have basically attacked are some of America and Japan's best. I could understand your reasons for not liking some shows and movies if you actually had real reasons to back up your otherwise ill-founded remarks. IMHO, I believe you secretly hold dear the very things you put down because you're afraid you cannot live up to such standards,which isn't necessarily true.But I will have you know,and I say this because it is the absolute truth,that The Iron Giant does not 'suck'. This 'criticism' you have tried to impress upon us has failed. I stand by what I say one-hundred percent.It was a cute story, but that's all I thought of it, I'll admit and praise, very highly, the musical score, the rest, I just got bored and/or somewhat annoyed by!
You are right, there are no talking animals ;)
Also, if I wanted to go into deep explanations as to why I think anything I have said I did not like, there'd have to be another topic made and it'd be a long one. So it's better just to accept that I don't like that movie and get back on pissing topic, as I have been trying to do! I'll blog my reasons later after I have finished drawing up Superman and Jake Long in the Anime style!
What other series people? I've basically run out of viable ones!
Lavenderpaw
09-24-2008, 09:28 PM
It was a cute story, but that's all I thought of it, I'll admit and praise, very highly, the musical score, the rest, I just got bored and/or somewhat annoyed by!
So we are in agreement that everything you once claimed "sucked" does not in any form or fashion suck,and that all of your reasonings for every post that you have made in this thread that directly and obliviously insulted a show and/or movie are completely uncalled for.
To be completely honest,I believe Disney should stick with regular animation because is seems that's what they do best.I like anime for it's story arcs, usually diverse characters and animation.But Disney should just stay with what they have.Besides,they got rid of American Dragon.I doubt they'll find anything to top the Jake/Rose story arc for a long time.It saddens me that some people in this world can't appreciate the wonderful storytelling in animation.
Or anywhere sometimes. *sigh* Ignorance,for those who care,is hardly ever bliss.
BrendaBat
09-24-2008, 10:47 PM
The only Disney property I'd want to see turned into an anime is Kingdom Hearts. But I doubt that would ever happen because all those different characters from different companies and different countries would likely be a licensing nightmare! Making a Kingdom Hearts cartoon would be like printing money. So it were possible to make it happen, Squre and/or Disney certainly would have done it by now. :shrug:
However, I don't understand why so many people think that an already great show like Gargoyles or Kim Possible would be greatly improved if only some Japanese writers and character designers could get their hands on them. If you already think the show is perfect, why in the world would you want to see it re-done with a different creative team. For God's sake, did you all learn NOTHING from The Goliath Cronicles!!? :p
Seriously, anime fans need to let go of their collective delusion of the Japanese people being some sort of artistic master race who never put out a lousy show/seiyuu preformance/pop album/whatever.
Anyway, I can't think of any good, existing show (Disney or otherwise) that would be instantly improved with the addition of some anime clichés and new, big-eyed character designs.
Every time an American show has been remade in Japan, the results have been abominable. Powerpuff Girls Z is the prime example. The original Powerpuff Girls was popular because it was a smart and very funny show that did a great job parodying animation clichés. When a Japanese company decided to adapt it, they threw out all the things that made it original and fun and replaced them with typical "magical girl show" clichés like stock attack animations and transformation scenes (aka pedophile fanservice). Except for the title, Powerpuff Girls Z had nothing in common with the original. [/rant] :sweat:
Zentron
09-24-2008, 11:42 PM
So we are in agreement that everything you once claimed "sucked" does not in any form or fashion suck, and that all of your reasonings for every post that you have made in this thread that directly and obliviously insulted a show and/or movie are completely uncalled for.Hmm, well I do believe IG was the only animated movie itself I said sucked, the rest was about the animation!! There are a lot of movies/series that I do like, regardless of the quality of the animation.... though it would help if better animated.
I doubt 'Filmore' would work as an Anime... too irritating!
Oh and BrendaBat, you should realize the age of consent (national) in Japan is 13 (the rest of the world, around the 16 mark)! So you shouldn't really find the fan-service all that surprising!
Lavenderpaw
09-25-2008, 08:20 PM
Hmm, well I do believe IG was the only animated movie itself I said sucked, the rest was about the animation!!
As far as I can tell,yes,IG was the only animated movie you said that sucked and as a major fan (and someone who dislikes it when people bash shows and movies without using proper wording and reasons) I was very offended by your statement. -> :sad: <- See him?He's there for a little visual aid.That's how people can feel when you insult something they might actually like.
If the animation portion is the only part about the IG movie you disliked,then you need to explain your reasons why in a way that is respectful to others but still gets your point across.As well as any other aversions you may hold towards the film.I hope in the future you will examine your posts before hiting the 'submit reply' button.
Taco Wiz
09-25-2008, 08:54 PM
Brandy and Mr. Whiskers
I REALLY want to see more of this show. I'd even take an anime version, which would suck.
Ed Liu
09-25-2008, 09:55 PM
Please stop arguing about The Iron Giant in this thread. There are better places for that (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=205486&highlight=iron+giant) and it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.
-- Ed
Zentron
09-25-2008, 10:38 PM
Please stop arguing about The Iron Giant in this thread. There are better places for that (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=205486&highlight=iron+giant) and it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.
-- EdOff-topic
I've been trying to! Just falling short on telling them to shut up, but I am PM'ing them, to get the IG discussion out of this thread, and thanks for pointing out that thread, now I know where to take it!
On-Topic
Gummi Bears... now that would be weird, but might be interesting to see what could be done with it!
BrendaBat
09-26-2008, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by Zentron
Oh and BrendaBat, you should realize the age of consent (national) in Japan is 13 (the rest of the world, around the 16 mark)! So you shouldn't really find the fan-service all that surprising!
The Powerpuff Girls are supposed to be kindergardners (and the anime versions look about 8-years-old). So its still creepy.
And I don't care what the age of consent is over there. Its still really depresses me that, in Japan, its apparently socially acceptable for grown men to lust after 8-year-old girls.
The original Powerpuff Girls spawned a frighteningly large fanbase of pedophiles and lolicon fetishists (especially in Japan). Powerpuff Girls Z just strikes me as an attempt to pander to that pervy audience. Which would probably explain why Cartoon Network has never made efforts to bring it over here despite the fact that both The Powerpuff Girls and anime were still fairly popular back when PpG Z came out. :shrug:
Light Lucario
09-26-2008, 09:37 PM
The Powerpuff Girls are supposed to be kindergardners (and the anime versions look about 8-years-old). So its still creepy.
And I don't care what the age of consent is over there. Its still really depresses me that, in Japan, its apparently socially acceptable for grown men to lust after 8-year-old girls.
The original Powerpuff Girls spawned a frighteningly large fanbase of pedophiles and lolicon fetishists (especially in Japan). Powerpuff Girls Z just strikes me as an attempt to pander to that pervy audience. Which would probably explain why Cartoon Network has never made efforts to bring it over here despite the fact that both The Powerpuff Girls and anime were still fairly popular back when PpG Z came out. :shrug:
I do agree with you about how creepy it is that, in Japan, apparently acceptable, at least in anime from what I've seen, for grown men to lust after eight year old girls. However, I did hear that CN has gotten Powerpuff Girls Z. I believe that was mention at the same convention that Toonami's last broadcast date was announced, but I haven't seen much of any other source at this moment.
Lavenderpaw
09-26-2008, 10:07 PM
I do agree with you about how creepy it is that, in Japan, apparently acceptable, at least in anime from what I've seen, for grown men to lust after eight year old girls. However, I did hear that CN has gotten Powerpuff Girls Z. I believe that was mention at the same convention that Toonami's last broadcast date was announced, but I haven't seen much of any other source at this moment.
It's just my suggestion,and yes I admit I too did this,but maybe we should lay off non-Disney related shows and topics.
Upon further thought,I think that some of the more ediger Disney movies could translate into anime or at least some variety of it.Or maybe Disney could do something like Avatar.Not an anime-western hybrid,but an anime-inspired movie or show.Maybe when a new animation era presents itself. :)
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