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DarkMaster
03-02-2002, 12:59 PM
http://www.yuyuhakusho.com

TylerL
03-02-2002, 01:26 PM
LOL... #1 Performance for ages 6-17?
I'm sure that's what CN wanted to hear...

Memphis Bleek
03-02-2002, 01:27 PM
I hope the fanbase continues to grow. Yu Yu Hakukuso is great show!

Killtacular
03-02-2002, 01:31 PM
I'm guessing 800,000 of those viewers were kids and 200,000 were adults.

CharlieNash
03-02-2002, 02:06 PM
Sweeeeeet! That's what I want to hear. I hope that the Yu Yu Hakusho's popularity would not die so that CN will show all the episodes. I do not care if it is for adults or not. Just show it with the original content in it. I am hopeful for tonights episode. I hope that they will not lose the tape.

Chibi Kageboshi
03-02-2002, 02:18 PM
umm... i have trouble thinking 6 and 7 year olds would watch this..

VinceA
03-02-2002, 03:37 PM
I think the bracket 6-17 in this case would probably be weighted more toward the 17 end than the 6 end. I don't think kids that age (6-7) should even be up at time that YYH is on much less be watching it. I can't get to the YYH site so I can't view the ratings there but are they broken down into groups more granular than 6-17?

Chibi Kageboshi
03-02-2002, 03:50 PM
Here ya go Vince:


Yu Yu Hakusho: Ghost Files leads off Cartoon Network's Adult Swim Block and is followed by Cowboy Bebop, Pilot Candidate, Gundam Wing, Outlaw Star and Tenchi Muyo. This heavily licensed set of shows proved their worth earning high ratings throughout with Yu Yu Hakusho: Ghost Files clearly leading the way. Yu Yu Hakusho: Ghost Files had the number one performance ratings in households, girls 6-11, boys 6-11 and teens 12-17. This exciting series generated twice the ratings in boys 6-11 and teens compared to the other Adult Swim series. Thanks again to all of you who made this happen

ohmrbill
03-02-2002, 05:11 PM
0083 is NOT Gundam Wing!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

DarkMaster
03-02-2002, 07:36 PM
it's a typo deal with it just like CN And WB say tweens instead teens sometimes.

hdofu
03-02-2002, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Chibi Kageboshi
umm... i have trouble thinking 6 and 7 year olds would watch this..

Thus Far All I have seen is the first episode and an fan sub of the second movie. It looks good though, a friend of mine who has seen them all told me a couple of reasons it should stay in Adult Swim In one of the later Episode they uncover a transvestite using the "hands on" approach I hope they do show it all, but I really don't have a great deal of faith in Cartoon Network as they HAVE YET TO SHOW ANY OF RANMA 1/2!!!! http://www.boomspeed.com/icon/firemad.gif

Spike Mcdougal
03-02-2002, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by DarkMaster
it's a typo deal with it just like CN And WB say tweens instead teens sometimes.

If Tweens is a typo then i'll buy that but getting 0083 and Wing mixed up is inexcusable to me, it's not that hard considering the animation styles.

And i'll say right now i'm very picky about getting Wing mixed up with the other Gundam shows

TylerL
03-02-2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by hdofu
I really don't have a great deal of faith in Cartoon Network as they HAVE YET TO SHOW ANY OF RANMA 1/2!!!! http://www.boomspeed.com/icon/firemad.gif I love it when people use angry smileys. They look so cute! ^_^

...and they won't show Ranma.
You don't want them to show Ranma.
...and who said they were in the first place?

Airing Anime on braodcast TV isn't as easy as sticking an off-the-shelf DVD into a player

Artemis
03-02-2002, 08:53 PM
I wonder if they'll edit a certain scene out that I think occurs in tonight's episode. Let me try out this...."Spoiler" feature... :p
When Yusuke returns to the living world he's in Kuwabara's body first (I forget why). He sees Keiko and trys to think of a way to prove to her that he's Yusuke. What better way to prove that than to grab her breasts and squeeze them? ^_^

They edited out Yusuke flipping up Keiko's skirt last week so they might edit this scene out as well. It'd be shame too, because it's pretty darn funny! :D

Killtacular
03-02-2002, 09:10 PM
Anyone care if I refer to the show as Yu Yu HaKidsShow from now on?

Spike Mcdougal
03-02-2002, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Anyone care if I refer to the show as Yu Yu HaKidsShow from now on?

Oh brother!!! :rolleyes:

Artemis
03-02-2002, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Anyone care if I refer to the show as Yu Yu HaKidsShow from now on?

As long as you don't call it Yo Yo Hamburger like someone from another MB does. :rolleyes:

Killtacular
03-02-2002, 09:45 PM
Hey, it's not my fault FUNimation considers it a kids show.

Leaping Larry Jojo
03-02-2002, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Hey, it's not my fault FUNimation considers it a kids show.

I consider it a kids show. Maybe in the 12-14 age group kind of show. This is my opinion from watching 40 episodes of it.

Artemis
03-02-2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Hey, it's not my fault FUNimation considers it a kids show.

Where do you get off thinking FUNimation considers it a kids show? They're just happy that they got a lot of ratings even though the majority of it happened to be kids 6-17. It's not their fault. Blame Canada.

Artemis
03-02-2002, 10:02 PM
Nevermind, I just re-read it and came to the attention that FUNi is boasting about how much ratings their getting from the under18 crowd. They aren't talking about the 18-34 demographic at all. They do *know* their show is on Adult Swim, right?

randomguy
03-02-2002, 10:14 PM
My opinion from what I've seen of YYH is that it's a kids show anyway- albeit with some occasionall sex jokes and all. Doesn't mean it's not any good... I just don't think it was ever geared for anything past mid-teens. Not funi's fault.

Kesh
03-02-2002, 10:15 PM
I honestly doubt they care. They got the show done, and it's airing & getting good ratings. I'd say FUNI doesn't give a rat's ass about when it's scheduled, just as long as it does well.

The problem is that CN took a show edited for kids and put it on AS. I'll honestly say, you can't blame FUNI for this decision. I don't know who's (bad) idea it was to edit this down to a kid's level in the first place, but you can't really complain about FUNI being happy they got ratings...

Artemis
03-02-2002, 10:27 PM
Yu Yu Hakusho was editted to a TV-PG standard, not to a kiddie standard. The show itself is most likey aimed at anyone between the ages 10 and 17. Doesn't mean anyone under or over that age bracket can't enjoy it.

Killtacular
03-02-2002, 11:14 PM
The show itself is most likey aimed at anyone between the ages 10 and 17. Doesn't mean anyone under or over that age bracket can't enjoy it.

You could say the same about the Powerpuff Girls.

Should we put Powerpuff Girls on Adult Swim? :P

Jimmy Kustes
03-02-2002, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson


You could say the same about the Powerpuff Girls.

Should we put Powerpuff Girls on Adult Swim? :P

"We" should put Batman: The Animated Series on Adult Swim. That way people don't have to skip brand-new episodes of King of the Hill or stay awake at 2:00 in the morning to watch it!

BTAS placed number #2 in Wizard's and Toon Zone's favorite cartoons of all time lists, with The Simpsons placing #1. But what do I know, I'm not a suit.

Kesh
03-02-2002, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Artemis
Yu Yu Hakusho was editted to a TV-PG standard, not to a kiddie standard. The show itself is most likey aimed at anyone between the ages 10 and 17. Doesn't mean anyone under or over that age bracket can't enjoy it.

PG is a kids' standard. It doesn't start bordering on adult until TV-14.

Sora Takenouchi
03-03-2002, 12:34 AM
So TV-PG means its for kids? oooookay. :rolleyes:


You could say the same about the Powerpuff Girls.

Last time I checked PPG was aimed at kids 6-12. YYH aims for a higher demographic of 10-17.

Given Adult Swim's current state, YYH fits on AS, and is not really a kids show. :p

Sheamon
03-03-2002, 01:48 AM
Can't say I'm surprised. This isn't a block for adults and it isn't meant to be one. Hopefully 6 months from now when all the series except YYH have completed their runs and they get new stuff we might be able to think of it as one, but not for now.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just wish they'd stop lying with the 'Adult Swim' thing.

Sora Takenouchi
03-03-2002, 02:03 AM
Well what do you want them to do? Geez, ya'll complain WAAAAY too much. >_<

SSJ_Gogeta
03-03-2002, 05:20 AM
You guys are being dumb. TV-PG is not a kids rating. It is asking for parents to discern if thier kids should watch, or not. Is Baby blues a kids show? No! Just because the show isn't full of nudity & sex does not mean it is for kids.

TV-14 is as close to uncut as CN wants to get.

They are not Comedy Central, or Fox for that matter. They are a very respected network among parents & critics, and jeoparizing that for some fan service is just stupid.

Get over it. Adult Swim is what this block is. No kid should watch Bebop, which is at the standard for AS (TV-14). All the new shows AS gets will all be TV-14, and that's as far as CN will go. If you don't like it, go find another channel to fill out your Saturday & Sunday nights.

If you don't like these shows because the little box in the corner says TV-PG, please feel free to change the channel.

Kesh
03-03-2002, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by SSJ_Gogeta
You guys are being dumb. TV-PG is not a kids rating. It is asking for parents to discern if thier kids should watch, or not. Is Baby blues a kids show? No! Just because the show isn't full of nudity & sex does not mean it is for kids.

PG is still a kids rating. The intent is that parents should know there may be something there that pre-teens may not be able to handle. That's it. It's not saying "parents must approve of their children watching this show," and it certainly does not raise flags the way TV-14 does. TV-14 means it's absolutely not for pre-teens, whereas TV-PG means it only might not be.


TV-14 is as close to uncut as CN wants to get.

I never disputed that fact.


Get over it. Adult Swim is what this block is.

No, it's what this block is supposed to be. Look at the edits for Pilot Candidate and then compare it to the content of Cowboy Bebop. The former is made for kids, while the latter fits Adult Swim.


If you don't like it, go find another channel to fill out your Saturday & Sunday nights.

If you don't like these shows because the little box in the corner says TV-PG, please feel free to change the channel.

Back off, okay? Don't tell us what to do, just because we have opinions. I'm trying to have a calm discussion here, but this kind of post is pushing it a bit.

I'm happy to have new anime on TV, and I'm glad YYH did so well in the ratings. All I ever said was that it's still edited for kids. Not as badly as some other shows, but the edits are there. I wish it were up to Cowboy Bebop's standards, but I can live with YYH. Pilot Candidate is another matter... of course, with the story being what it is, I may end up changing channels between YYH and 0083 anyway.

I just hate it when people take the 'if you don't like it, go away' route of arguing their point.

KingKoopa
03-03-2002, 08:25 PM
It's edited for kids, but kids still shouldn't be watching. FUNimation should mention that if they want Adult Swim to do well with its target audience (although with the shows on it, the audience they're getting is fine).

Vivi
03-03-2002, 08:36 PM
You could say the same about the Powerpuff Girls.

LOL, yea i can just see that happening. :rolleyes:

Jake
03-04-2002, 12:51 AM
From what I've seen of Yu Yu Hakusho, the show seems to have some potential. The only thing that really bothered me was the main character(whatever his name was). He seemed so childish. Like when he met the, uh, King guy, he said something like, "Does it take 100 years to graduate from diapers? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!" And when the, uh, girl person told, the, uh, main character guy that she will always recognize him just by the way he moves etc, he said something like, "Save the mushy stuff for later!" If he acts more mature, maybe I could get into it.

CharlieNash
03-04-2002, 09:17 AM
What's the deal about arguing that YYH is a kids' show. Is it good? Hell yeah! Does it have some content that seems inappropriate for kids? Hell yeah! With the shows greatness, it does not even matter where they place. They can place it in Toonami. But, I think that placing it in AdultSwim is a move just to avoid parents from complaining that CN is showing inappropriate shows for kids. If parents complain, many horrible things might happen like law suits. Ergo, they placed it in Adult Swim to avoid these complication. Of course, we do not want that to happen.

YYH is a terrific show. Many love it. So, no matter what it is, where it is, what demographic age it is targetted at, we still love the show. So, stop your whining and be thankful that the are showing such a wonderful show.


However, shows such as ATHF, Space Ghost, Baby Blues, Home Movies, are shows that have an adult content but not good. They are not funny. Therefore, they need to remove these shows and replace it with more Sealab, Harvey, and Brak.

Jake
03-04-2002, 11:39 AM
Don't say they aren't funny. People have different opinions.

CharlieNash
03-04-2002, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Jake
Don't say they aren't funny. People have different opinions.

Fine, I need to correct myself. Sometimes, they are funny, but funny in more juvenile way. If some say that YYH is childish, these shows that I'm criticizing are more childish and juvenile (I am redundant for emphasis) than YYH.

Sora Takenouchi
03-04-2002, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Jake
Don't say they aren't funny. People have different opinions.

People get bent out of shape when their favorites are dissed. :rolleyes: If he wants to say it isn't funny let him. It's his opinion. I don't know why people get so bent out of shape when people say opinions like their facts when we all know they aren't.

Jake
03-04-2002, 03:41 PM
No, no...I'm not saying it IS funny, either, but neverless I don't think you should back up your argument about what shows CN should air based on your own personal opinion about whats funny. Opinions aren't legitimate reasons and therefore makes your argument look unfounded. I never said ATHF, Space Ghost, Baby Blues, or Home Movies are my favorites.

William C. Maune
03-04-2002, 07:47 PM
[indent]TV-PG is not a kids rating. If it was Toonami would be allowed to be at TV-PG standards as would other shows on Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, etc. It does not matter what any of us think kids should be able to see. What matters is how the ratings are used in real life and you will not find stuff rated TV-PG on networks or programming aimed at kids.
[indent] Yu Yu Howeveryouspellit may be edited, but it is not edited as much as it could be. It would definitely be edited more if it were Y7. The show probably couldn't even air at Y7 without significant cuts. You would have to take out a lot of the funeral stuff from the first episode and they would have to do more to hide his Mom's drinking. Kicking off the series with all the mourning and sadness would never fly with the censors with a Y7 rating.

Andy Mancini
03-05-2002, 01:55 AM
Look, just because "Yu Yu Hakusho" has a TV-PG rating and not as much fan service as the uncut version had, it doesn't mean that it's for kids. This show comes across as combination of the movie "Ghost" and the "Death" episode of "The Drew Carey Show". Those two things mentioned above, along with the show in question, deals with a subject (spending part of the afterlife as a ghost trying to get things done and right wrongs) that younger kids might not be able to handle without a little guidance. Here is an example of what I mean. The movie "Ghost" came out in 1990, and like many middle-aged couples, my parents went and saw it in the theaters. The next year, it came out on video. My parents, still following the "middle-aged couple" model, reserved a copy from the local rental place and had it that weekend. That Saturday, my dad pulled me aside and told me that my mother and him rent a "more adult" movie than the "Greatest Hits of He-Man" tape that my then eight year old brother and I rented for movie night, and asked if I wanted to watch it with them. So, that night, after "He-Man" got thoughoughly tired of whoopin' Skeletor's ass, my brother went to bed. I just sat there while my parents went though the whole "it's just a movie" speech. We then started the movie. This movie, while still "edited" by my parents (my dad fast forwarded though all of the sex scenes, and with our old VCR, you couldn't see a thing while it fast forwared) scared the HELL out of me. And why wouldn't it? The thoughs of evil, Hell, spiritual possesion, ghosts, levitation, Whoopi Goldberg, and Demi Moore frighten an 11 year old. (Maybe not the last two, but still...) I then talked to my parents about the movie for an hour after it ended. After everything was talked out, I wasn't scared out of my mind anymore. (I was still creeped out, but I wasn't scared.) You can make fun of this notion if you want, but it worked for my brother and myself. How does anyone know that parents, or, for that matter, an older brother or sister isn't doing the same thing with "Yu Yu Hakusho"? Granted, the editing is done by Funimation, not a parent with a remote, but the effect is the same. I wouldn't let a pre-fifteen year old go near YYH without guidance, just the same way my parents wouldn't let me go near "Ghost" without them there. And even if some parents are (wrongly, in my opinion) allowing their kids watch YYH by themselves, why does that make it a "kiddie" show? The idea of a "mature" show goes WAY past sex.

DJ Gir.

SSJ_Gogeta
03-05-2002, 02:40 AM
I already had my rant, so i'll just say one thing.

The show is awesome! Who cares what it's rated! I know it could be less edited, but that was funi's decision, and we have to live with it.

I don't care if kids like. I like it, and thats all that matters.

ohmrbill
03-05-2002, 03:51 AM
*sigh*... Why is this so hard for people to understand?


Yu Yu Hakusho is a KID'S SHOW!!! It's about as adult as DB/Z! Forget about CN's overly paranoid editing standards; YYH was a kid's show in Japan, and airing it on "Adult" Swim and slapping a PG rating on it in America does not change that fact!!! Just because a few American kids may be afraid of "ghosts" and "spirits" doesn't make it an adult show in any way, shape, or form (I'm guessing many of you aren't familiar with Shaman King). Many of you seem to be forgetting that YYH comes from a different culture, and that they have different standards on what is considered “objectionable” material (I’m also guessing that many of you arguing that YYH an adult show haven’t seen uncut Dragon Ball).

That being said... I'll state right now that it doesn't really matter if it's a kid's show or not. I happen to enjoy Yu Yu Hakusho immensely, and the fact that it's not very "adult" doesn't detract from my enjoyment of it, at all. Yes, I agree that it couldn't have aired on Toonami without severe editing, and therefore, I’m actually glad to be able to see it on AS with few cuts.

Now I hope this issue is settled, because arguing about it being adult or not is pointless. Yu Yu Hakusho is there to stay, so just sit back and enjoy the fact that they’re not saying “blast” 50 times an episode and sending people to the “next dimension.” :)

Jude Santos
03-05-2002, 09:17 PM
<i think ALL of the adult swim shows are not adult. if they were then all of the shows would be TV-MA, that is if all the shows are aimed at 18-34. >

YYH appeals to both kids AND adults so you really cant say if its a kids show or an adult show, well basically, its a teen show. but who actually gives a s.hit? its on adult swim and none of us cant do anything unless we're execs at cn or something.

and one more thing, you guys are waaaayyy too over your heads about that "adult swim is for 18-34 year olds" i think most of the shows are teen shows.

TylerL
03-05-2002, 09:22 PM
You people have WAY too many different definitions of "adult".

It doesn't have to mean excessive violence/nudity/language.

Jude Santos
03-05-2002, 09:27 PM
You people have WAY too many different definitions of "adult".

It doesn't have to mean excessive violence/nudity/language.


no crap.
"oh no! they edited beer! lets take it off our schedule page"
"!!! cigs were edited! its not adult!"
thats just a few examples. beer and cigs dont indicate adult/maturity at all.

CharlieNash
03-06-2002, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by TylerL
You people have WAY too many different definitions of "adult".

It doesn't have to mean excessive violence/nudity/language.


Yeah!! I agree. Since the "jokes" of ATHF, Home Movies, and the rest of the show that I hate are very childish and immature, I concluded that these shows should be taken off the Adult Swim block. But, since YYH talks about death, which is a very adult theme, they need to keep it in Adult Swim. You rarely see a parent talking about death to his or her children. Often, you hear other terms like "passed away," or "went to the other dimension."(like in Dragon Ball Z). Therefore, YYH is the most adult show I have ever seen.

ohmrbill
03-06-2002, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by CharlieNash


But, since YYH talks about death, which is a very adult theme, they need to keep it in Adult Swim. You rarely see a parent talking about death to his or her children. Often, you hear other terms like "passed away," or "went to the other dimension."(like in Dragon Ball Z). Therefore, YYH is the most adult show I have ever seen.

Oh, yes! And while we're at it, let's put Casper the Friendly Ghost on Adult Swim! There are ghosts in it (which means it deals with death), so it must be an adult show! :rolleyes:

Artemis
03-06-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by CharlieNash



Therefore, YYH is the most adult show I have ever seen.

Someone has not seen Cowboy Bebop. :rolleyes:

Jake
03-06-2002, 05:24 PM
or POKEMON!!!! :p

Sora Takenouchi
03-06-2002, 05:29 PM
...............I don't get it...... :p