"Wolverine And The X-Men" News & Discussion Thread, Part 3 (Spoilers)

[James Harvey]

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[Silverstar]

About the Ms. Marvel/X-Men thing: Didn't Ms. Marvel become Binary at one point and join the X-Men? So she isn't entirely unrelated to them.

Ms. Marvel did become Binary after being subjected to an evolutionary ray by the Brood, but she joined the Starjammers (a group of space-faring pirates led by Cyclops' father, Corsair). Carol was never an X-Man; it wouldn't make any sense for her to join the X-Men since she's not a mutant. After the Rogue incident, Ms. Marvel has been a frequent ally to the X-Men, though.

[CaptainCanada]

She never formally joined, but she was basically on the team; she lived at the mansion for a good while, went on their missions, and was offered a spot to make it official, which she declined because of Rogue.

I would rather she lost the ability to absorb other powers if she had to lose something.
The absorbtion ability is her core power; it's the whole premise of the character, really.

Back in Thread 2, there was a list of some episode titles. Time for some speculation about content:

Ep. 1 "Hindsight Pt. 1"
Ep. 2 "Hindsight Pt. 2"
Ep. 3 "Hindsight Pt. 3"
Ep. 4 "Overflow"
Ep. 7 "Wolverine Vs. The Hulk" (gee, what'll this be about?)
Ep. 11 "Past Discretions" (Wolverine flashback episode?)
Ep. 13 "Battle Lines"
Ep. 14 "Stolen Lives" (sounds like a Rogue story)
Ep. 16 "Badlands"
Ep. 19 "Guardian Angel" (about Warren)
Ep. 22 "Aces & Eights" (about Gambit)
Ep. 23 "Shades of Grey" (Jean-related)
Ep. 25 "Foresight Pt. 2" (season finale, presumably returning to the whole "fight the future" premise shown in the pilot)

[B-kun]

About it not making any sense for Carol to join the X-Men, Juggernaut and Hepzibah aren't mutants but that certainly didn't stop them.

[Spider-Man]

To get this thread back on topic there's a gallery of screenshots from the last trailer online at X-Menfilms.net (http://xmenfilms.net/photos/wolverineandthexmen/index.html) in very good quality.


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And apparently the show is airing in Brazil already according to Animated Superheroes (http://www.animatedsuperheroes.com/). YTV has been airing a few different commercials for the show's premiere next week.

[thundarr82]

Spider-Man, I agree that there should be no more complaining about Rogue's lack her flying powers et al. The series Wolverine And The X-Men looks like it will be a great show and likely, at least for me, fall to 2nd in comparison to Fox Kids X-Men. At least WATXM did not completely re do the X-Men as Evolution did.

[Rick Jones]

I think this series has a chance to be the definitive one, combining the better qualities of both of the past series

I just wonder what sort of role Colossus would play. I'm guessing it's probably a guest/ minor supporting role like on the previous two and the movies. Is the big guy too boring for Saturday mornings ? Or too strong maybe ?

[Blackstar]

I just wonder what sort of role Colossus would play. I'm guessing it's probably a guest/ minor supporting role like on the previous two and the movies. Is the big guy too boring for Saturday mornings ? Or too strong maybe ?

It could be because Colossus' main mutant power is super strength, and there's already plenty of muscle power on the X team already.

It could also be because Colossus' shtick, if you will, is a tad dated. I mean, the "friendly Russian" idea was big in the days of Glasnost, when the character was introduced, but it's not exactly relevant now.

Just a guess.

[Windrider]

remind me again when the american airfate is I already know it's on nicktoons but will it be on the regular nick too?

also if i have bbc amerca will i be able to watch it there?

[creativerealms]

remind me again when the american airfate is I already know it's on nicktoons but will it be on the regular nick too?

also if i have bbc amerca will i be able to watch it there?

Just Nicktoons, and BBC America seems to just air BBC premier shows and not really any imports they get so I'm prety sure it won't air Wolverine and the X-men.

[Rick Jones]

We get it in the US next year and there's no way they'd show it on BBC America

[TheVileOne]

The Marvel guys at SDCC said January 2009 for the show's premiere on Nicktoons.

BBC has insulted all the fans by ignoring the show and us as well.

It's currently airing on Jetix in Brazil.

I think people who are still angry over the end of JLU would like this show and they should check it out. This is going to be a show heavily built on a big story arc over 26 episodes.

And we get to see a ton of characters.

[NightwingAngelo]

Just a little over 1 week to go!!! I've been years for more X-Men on Television. I can hardly wait.

I do wish it premiered earlier on BBC so I'd know what was going on right now, but the premiere is closing in now, so it's all good... except for the people who get BBC getting screwed over.

Will there be some sort of penalty/punishment to BBC dished out by Marvel afte this or something, or is it noto too big of a deal to them? Personally, I'm pretty steamed really.

And extra month's wait for me, and even worse for others.

[bigdeath]

My favorite character, Woverine of course, gets to be the lead. :D

And the fact that they actually have Emma Frost and Woverine vs Hulk just makes this look so perfect.

[thundarr82]

I also would like to see Collasus have a permament spot on the X-Men. With all the trouble Vladimir Putin is causing in Georgia, The time could be right once again for the strong, friendly, Peter Rasputin to be a major player on the X-Men.

[TheVileOne]

For Colossus:

Colossus is only in the prologue of the first episode. He's seen training with Iceman and Kitty in the Danger Room. He goes away after the explosion and returns to his family in Russia. According to Beast he doesn't want to leave his family and re-join the X-men.

Not to say we will never see Colossus again in this show. He's depicted with the X-men in promotional pics, so I hope he re-joins the team later on.

[Mad Hatter]

Is it just me, or is that Forge in one of the pictures? And was the blonde one Iceman?

I would like to see Colossus, but not yet. A Kitty/Peter romance would be a first in an X-Men animated series, would it not?

About the titles: "Badlands." Any ideas? I've got nothing. When would Mojo come in? "Battle Lines?" "Overflow?" Maybe he shows in "Badlands." Also, you think Longshot will show? Because of the Ultimate Universe, I now automatically associate Mojo with Longshot and with Spiral, who apparently is in the show.

EDIT: OK, I was looking through the photos on the site that Spider-Man provided, and I saw

Wolfsbane and Mystique

I've never seen

[ifthismeansevos]

hi

Kinda new to this thread.

Has the show already premierd?

When is it gonna be released , internationally?

[Rud]

hi

Kinda new to this thread.

Has the show already premierd?

When is it gonna be released , internationally?

its aired in brazil, itl air in canada soon, over here in 2009, and in the UK.... eventualy (BBC's holding back apparently)

[Rick Jones]

For Colossus:

Colossus is only in the prologue of the first episode. He's seen training with Iceman and Kitty in the Danger Room. He goes away after the explosion and returns to his family in Russia. According to Beast he doesn't want to leave his family and re-join the X-men.

Not to say we will never see Colossus again in this show. He's depicted with the X-men in promotional pics, so I hope he re-joins the team later on.
sounds great, pretty true to character

[ShadowStar]

So "Foresight" will be a 3-part season finale, just as "Hindsight" is the 3-part series premiere? That's great - it sounds like we have a real 26-part epic on our hands.

Obviously "Foresight" will involve time travelling and/or altering the future or the present in some other way... Perhaps we will see Cable and Apocalypse? After all, "Shades of Grey" could well be about the return of Jean (presumably as Phoenix), but then it could also be about Cable arriving from the future to help prevent the Age of Apocalypse. That would be cool, since the X-men would suddenly have to bear in mind a second potential catastrophic timeline that has to be avoided.

"Aces and Eights" is surely about Gambit. Don't aces and eights make up the dead man's hand? Perhaps someone will die in that episode.

[cartoonboy]

As my 2yr old has been saying as of late, "Holy Macakrel". I must have been sleeping under a rock all summer, this is great news. Next Saturday on YTV. Time to get the dvr to do some work!

[NightwingAngelo]

So "Foresight" will be a 3-part season finale, just as "Hindsight" is the 3-part series premiere? That's great - it sounds like we have a real 26-part epic on our hands.

Obviously "Foresight" will involve time travelling and/or altering the future or the present in some other way... Perhaps we will see Cable and Apocalypse? After all, "Shades of Grey" could well be about the return of Jean (presumably as Phoenix), but then it could also be about Cable arriving from the future to help prevent the Age of Apocalypse. That would be cool, since the X-men would suddenly have to bear in mind a second potential catastrophic timeline that has to be avoided.

"Aces and Eights" is surely about Gambit. Don't aces and eights make up the dead man's hand? Perhaps someone will die in that episode.

26 episode seasons?! ALRIGHT!!! That's rocks! :cool:

[Silverstar]

26 episode seasons?! ALRIGHT!!! That's rocks! :cool:

Let's not confuse quantity with quality, my friend. A show could only have 6 episodes per season and still kick azz. It's not the number of episodes per season that counts, but what the producers do with those episodes that matters.

[ifthismeansevos]

Hello

I know I `ve been away for a while, basically since I became infatuated with a certain series bout Firebenders with scars and lovely acrobats...Anyway I wanted to say the series is already airing in LatinAmerica...And I know it sound truly crazy but it is already dubbed and in episode 4 overflow which counts th story of Ororo and Xavier and the Shadow King, unfortunately I am out of cable or satellite right now...I saw this episode yesterday ith my four years old nephew...On Jetix...
It may sound weird but it makes sense since the Fairly Oddparents also air on Jetix here

I hope to find some evidence of my words next week

It´s not that bad I can tell you I barely saw the episode but it is not that bad.

[TheVileOne]

I'm assuming they aired the first three episodes together which is basically the pilot.

[ShadowStar]

Hello

I know I `ve been away for a while, basically since I became infatuated with a certain series bout Firebenders with scars and lovely acrobats...Anyway I wanted to say the series is already airing in LatinAmerica...And I know it sound truly crazy but it is already dubbed and in episode 4 overflow which counts th story of Ororo and Xavier and the Shadow King, unfortunately I am out of cable or satellite right now...I saw this episode yesterday ith my four years old nephew...On Jetix...
It may sound weird but it makes sense since the Fairly Oddparents also air on Jetix here

I hope to find some evidence of my words next week

It´s not that bad I can tell you I barely saw the episode but it is not that bad.

"Overflow" is about the Shadow King? :eek: Man, I pray that we'll see Mr. Sinister in this series. Please!! I hope you enjoyed it and that you'll get to see more episodes.

[ifthismeansevos]

It is also airing on Jetix here in Mexico.

So far 4 episodes have been aired.

Mod Edit: Anyone found posting links to the episodes will be warned on the spot. Don't let this happen again.

[TheVileOne]

What worries me about the story is the time travel issue.

Xavier is sending the X-men messages in the future where everyone has died after the X-men split up and disbanded. The Sentinels have taken over.

But the other thing is, what's the catalyst that causes all this? Is Xavier really preventing anything by communicating with the X-men or causing it?

The other thing is, how is Cerebro now powerful enough to help Xavier send messages to the past?

[Windrider]

waot did you say overflow is about storm and the shadowking the most epic storyline EVER in my opinon has the series done a good jobb on storm?

[ShadowStar]

What worries me about the story is the time travel issue.

Xavier is sending the X-men messages in the future where everyone has died after the X-men split up and disbanded. The Sentinels have taken over.

But the other thing is, what's the catalyst that causes all this? Is Xavier really preventing anything by communicating with the X-men or causing it?

The other thing is, how is Cerebro now powerful enough to help Xavier send messages to the past?

Great points... There's something amiss about Xavier all right... Hopefully the explanation for this will be Onslaught. :D

[TheVileOne]

Well it really did seem like Xavier at the end of the third episode. Rather than some sort of trick when it pulled back to reveal Xavier fleeing from the mansion and all the destruction going around outside. It was a grim picture. So I mean, it doesn't appear that there's anything sinister behind this Xavier. That's what I thought from the trailer, but the surprise was that it legitimately appears to be Xavier.

There just needs to be a legit explanation about his power growing or Cerebro now having communication links with the past 20 years before.

[ShadowStar]

Well it really did seem like Xavier at the end of the third episode. Rather than some sort of trick when it pulled back to reveal Xavier fleeing from the mansion and all the destruction going around outside. It was a grim picture. So I mean, it doesn't appear that there's anything sinister behind this Xavier. That's what I thought from the trailer, but the surprise was that it legitimately appears to be Xavier.

There just needs to be a legit explanation about his power growing or Cerebro now having communication links with the past 20 years before.

Is it ever explained in the pilot what exactly caused Xavier and Jean to disappear?

[Wonderwall]

Is it ever explained in the pilot what exactly caused Xavier and Jean to disappear?

Probably not.

[TheVileOne]

No it's not. All we know is that an explosion that destroyed the mansion was targeting Xavier. And it caused both Xavier and Jean to "disappear". About a year after his disappearance, Xavier's unconscious body is washed ashore to Genosha, and Magneto takes him. We still have no idea where Jean is after the third episode.

Also:

The first five episodes have now aired on Jetix in Brazil.

Episode 4: Storm returns and the Shadow King

Episode 5: Looks like Thieves' Guild, Gambit, Kavita Rao, and Bolivar Trask

The show and animation continues to look great. All sorts of nice character arcs are set up early on. I'm really digging the animation. Though I'm still a little iffy on how some of the legs and feet are drawn.

I think though the argument that BBC and Marvel were trying to avoid video leaks . . . well . . . that argument is pretty much over at this point.

BBC's treatment of the show without saying anything continues to be insulting. How can they go through a November DVD release in the UK when they don't even have a broadcast airdate? Are they just going to release it on DVD before anything's even aired?

[suss2it]

BBC's treatment of the show without saying anything continues to be insulting. How can they go through a November DVD release in the UK when they don't even have a broadcast airdate? Are they just going to release it on DVD before anything's even aired?
They could potentially do that, 4 episodes of Avatar were shown on DVD before TV, so who knows?

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, but that was Nickelodeon incompetence, not the BBC.

BBC doesn't release Dr. Who or Torchwood on DVD before they air.

[Beastbot X]

Ugh, him (SK) already? Man, they definitely are going the "out-there" route... I definitely can't see liking this much as Evo now, no matter how good the writing is because they're obviously putting in all the extra-dimensional stuff/aliens/everything else that turned me off X-Men until the movies and the Evo-verse.

But hey, whatever gets the ratings, I guess...

[suss2it]

Ugh, him (SK) already? Man, they definitely are going the "out-there" route... I definitely can't see liking this much as Evo now, no matter how good the writing is because they're obviously putting in all the extra-dimensional stuff/aliens/everything else that turned me off X-Men until the movies and the Evo-verse.

But hey, whatever gets the ratings, I guess...
I didn't hear about aliens or extra-dimensions. I just heard about time travel being in the plot.

[TheVileOne]

Well all I can say is, this isn't X-men Evolution season 5. They weren't trying to make a sequel to Evolution. They wanted to make a new X-men show that speaks to all the eras.

These are all things that are a part of X-men's history and are still in the comics today. The Joss Whedon run everyone claims to love dealt with aliens and interplanetary travel.

SK has been a classic X-men rogue for years. I see no reason not to use him. He's not used in an implausible manner.

As long as they can come up with a legit reasoning for Cerebro being able to broadcast to the past, I can kind of forgive it.

We are dealing with a show where people have mutant powers that cause them to shoot concussive blasts out of their eyes, able to produce molten lava out of their bodies, and make any object explode.

Sometimes you just have to embrace it.

[Buster2099]

I hope the writers can come up with new storylines instead of recycling old ones for some of the episodes.

[W.C.Reaf]

Yeah, but that was Nickelodeon incompetence, not the BBC.

BBC doesn't release Dr. Who or Torchwood on DVD before they air.

Both Nick and the BBC don't have control over the DVDs, they're done through a third party company, and baring episodes on finished they're going to be released when the companies have contracted the time for their release.

The BBC has their own DVD publishing company and does their own shows and put them on DVD. So this would never happen with the programs that they make. However programs they just have the rights to this could easily happen.


Ugh, him (SK) already? Man, they definitely are going the "out-there" route... I definitely can't see liking this much as Evo now, no matter how good the writing is because they're obviously putting in all the extra-dimensional stuff/aliens/everything else that turned me off X-Men until the movies and the Evo-verse.

But hey, whatever gets the ratings, I guess...

I agree with the sentiment that the "other worldly" stuff" is something that turns me off X-men, usually. But I don't think he falls into that category since he's just a powerful psychic.


I hope the writers can come up with new storylines instead of recycling old ones for some of the episodes.

Huh? If you're talking about the time travel stuff then the basic plot has been done in the comics story "Days of Future Past". This seems to be expanding, modernising, and changing it to tell a good semi-original story.

It does look like they are going to tell some of their own stories for some of the episodes.

[Silverstar]

Those filing complaints about the Ms. Marvel-less Rogue, the appearance of Shadow King and the time travel plot should take this to heart:


Well all I can say is, this isn't X-men Evolution season 5. They weren't trying to make a sequel to Evolution. They wanted to make a new X-men show that speaks to all the eras.

These are all things that are a part of X-men's history and are still in the comics today. The Joss Whedon run everyone claims to love dealt with aliens and interplanetary travel.

SK has been a classic X-men rogue for years. I see no reason not to use him. He's not used in an implausible manner.

As long as they can come up with a legit reasoning for Cerebro being able to broadcast to the past, I can kind of forgive it.

We are dealing with a show where people have mutant powers that cause them to shoot concussive blasts out of their eyes, able to produce molten lava out of their bodies, and make any object explode.

Sometimes you just have to embrace it.

Amen.

IMHO, it's high time people stopped trying to measure this show up against Evo and view it as its' own thing. As for the Shadow King and time travel elements, well, that's just comic book stuff. If magical powered mutants born with powers like teleportation, instant healing and regeneration, turning one's skin into 'organic metal' and controlling the weather can exist alongside other costumed heroes (including cyber-geniuses with advanced technosuits, displaced super-serum-augmented WW2 soldiers, demigods from Asgard and mutates who possess similar powers to mutants save for being born with them), then why can't aliens or time-travelers?

These things are all commonplace in Fictionland.

[HavokBr]

I´m from Brazil, and I´ve watched the first 4 episodes. I can tell you guys that the show is awesome!
The X-Men really feel like family, their interaction is perfect... and there´s a great sense of history, as we could see at 4th episode's flashback, featuring Storm and Xavier.
But everyone is really in their characters, except maybe for Forge...
And threre´s Emma Frost... I think she´ll be a major player, and she´s just like the comic book version, her dialogues are the best...
I´m keeping my expectations high, I´m really looking foward to watch the 5th episode, which is going to air today!

[Beastbot X]

Well all I can say is, this isn't X-men Evolution season 5. They weren't trying to make a sequel to Evolution. They wanted to make a new X-men show that speaks to all the eras.

These are all things that are a part of X-men's history and are still in the comics today. The Joss Whedon run everyone claims to love dealt with aliens and interplanetary travel.

Oh, I totally understand why they're doing it. And as I said earlier, I'm sure it will have great writing with Johnson and the others behind it. It's more a personal complaint about the show than a universal one. To me, the X-Men are always more interesting when they're people first and superheroes second (which is why the Evoverse and the Movieverse are my favorites by a long shot. I mean, I highly doubt we'll see episodes like "Retreat" or "Cruise Control" in this series, or as much exploration into personal interests, X-Men just hanging out, etc.). Adding in all this extra stuff and making it commonplace-- aliens, really futuristic stuff, time travel, etc.-- it just makes it all less like they're people and more like they're superheroes first. I've never been able to get into other superhero shows like the Justice League, no matter how well they're written, because of this. And bringing X-Men back to its "classic" formula just makes it stand out far less, in my eyes. I mean, I NEVER knew anything more about X-Men than "Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Professor X, Beast" until the 1st movie and then Evo came out, and THAT'S when it all captured my interest enough for me to buy the X-Men Ultimate Guide to see what I was missing in the comics, which it turns out wasn't much in my mind.

[HavokBr]

The 5th episode featured Gambit!

[Windrider]

Hey HavokBR is storm on the team now ? like is she living with them. and also does the show do a good job on her or is she a weak character?

[HavokBr]

Hey HavokBR is storm on the team now ? like is she living with them. and also does the show do a good job on her or is she a weak character?

Yes, she is on the team. She chose to stay with the X-Men, her family.
She still haven´t done much yet, her flashback with Shadow King and Xavier was awesome, though.

[Danzigg]

BBC's treatment of the show without saying anything continues to be insulting. How can they go through a November DVD release in the UK when they don't even have a broadcast airdate? Are they just going to release it on DVD before anything's even aired?

I hear you, and feel your pain but you know the thing about BBC is when they get a whiff of a good show they promote it, heavily! I just think they know how good this and want to market it correctly If they did'nt give a damn they would have just shoved it out there.

[Windrider]

Thanks havok I just can't wait for this show but we don't get it until 2009 and i don't have nicktoons:sweat:

[TheVileOne]

Beastbot X:

I think you will be quite happy with how the X-men are depicted in this show as far as hanging out goes judging from the early episodes alone.

There's a great montage sequence in the mansion where you see everyone winding down before bed. Beast is brushing his fur upside down while he's right under Emma Frost who is brushing her hair.

The series also sets up an interesting relationship with Kitty and Iceman from the start where they seem to be frequently paired up with each other. Not saying they are going for a blatant romance but there's a great scene where Emma Frost comes in and Bobby basically undresses her with his eyes and Kitty gets ticked at him and says, "She can read your thoughts stupid."

Another great scene is Iceman and Kitty trying to get Cyclops from sulking out of his bedroom to come and have breakfast. Cyclops continues sulking but arrives on the scene later for the Shadowking mission.

The biggest thing fans will have trouble with though is Wolverine as the leader. It feels like by the 4th episode that Cyclops and Wolverine have sort of switched their usual places in the team. Wolverine is still Wolverine, and that causes problems, especially in the pilot when he's Wolverine and trying to be leader.

I think if fans can accept the Wolverine/Cyclops shift, and get past the really weird Jean blowing the kiss thing in the first episode, I think they will like the show.

More than anything I like the tone of this show. It feels like I'm watching a more adult superhero cartoon again like JL or the old DCAU shows. I know The Batman, LOSH, and Teen Titans had its fans. But I usually couldn't stomach them, even though I enjoyed some of the JL from the last season of The Batman, and some of the more story arc centered parts of Teen Titans. This show reminds me much more of the awesome old school super hero shows from the 90's that had a higher quality standard of writing and usually avoided slapstick silliness.

The show never really feels like its talking down to you either. The writing has a very organic and natural flow. It never really gets to a point like, "Why would they say something that stupid" X-men 3 had a lot of problems like that ;) .

This show already looks better than X-men 3.



Both Nick and the BBC don't have control over the DVDs, they're done through a third party company, and baring episodes on finished they're going to be released when the companies have contracted the time for their release.

Nick and BBC do have control over the episode air dates. Nick's strategy with Avatar was backwards and ridiculous.


The BBC has their own DVD publishing company and does their own shows and put them on DVD. So this would never happen with the programs that they make. However programs they just have the rights to this could easily happen.


I get this and everything, but this does not excuse their behavior for Wolverine and The X-men which they have totally let everyone down with. And if Marvel is unhappy with this, and I hope they are, they should never work with the BBC ever again.

[ifthismeansevos]

Those filing complaints about the Ms. Marvel-less Rogue, the appearance of Shadow King and the time travel plot should take this to heart:



Amen.

IMHO, it's high time people stopped trying to measure this show up against Evo and view it as its' own thing. As for the Shadow King and time travel elements, well, that's just comic book stuff. If magical powered mutants born with powers like teleportation, instant healing and regeneration, turning one's skin into 'organic metal' and controlling the weather can exist alongside other costumed heroes (including cyber-geniuses with advanced technosuits, displaced super-serum-augmented WW2 soldiers, demigods from Asgard and mutates who possess similar powers to mutants save for being born with them), then why can't aliens or time-travelers?

These things are all commonplace in Fictionland.

Double amen to that.
And my name was done for my sadness of Evo´s End.
But ok it´s done now, they are not doing that bad as far as two episodes can tell me.
And I just wish i had the chance to see the first episode, eh i´ll wait the rerun.

[TheVileOne]

I read on Wikipedia that Michael Ironside is the voice of John Wraith(?) or the MRD Col. Moss(?) in this show. Can anyone confirm this? I mean I think it does sound like, but I'm not 100%.

[Beastbot X]

Beastbot X:

I think you will be quite happy with how the X-men are depicted in this show as far as hanging out goes judging from the early episodes alone.

There's a great montage sequence in the mansion where you see everyone winding down before bed. Beast is brushing his fur upside down while he's right under Emma Frost who is brushing her hair.

The series also sets up an interesting relationship with Kitty and Iceman from the start where they seem to be frequently paired up with each other. Not saying they are going for a blatant romance but there's a great scene where Emma Frost comes in and Bobby basically undresses her with his eyes and Kitty gets ticked at him and says, "She can read your thoughts stupid."

Another great scene is Iceman and Kitty trying to get Cyclops from sulking out of his bedroom to come and have breakfast. Cyclops continues sulking but arrives on the scene later for the Shadowking mission.

The biggest thing fans will have trouble with though is Wolverine as the leader. It feels like by the 4th episode that Cyclops and Wolverine have sort of switched their usual places in the team. Wolverine is still Wolverine, and that causes problems, especially in the pilot when he's Wolverine and trying to be leader.

I think if fans can accept the Wolverine/Cyclops shift, and get past the really weird Jean blowing the kiss thing in the first episode, I think they will like the show.

Well, that's a little reassuring. Thanks for the heads up.

[TheVileOne]

Here's my thing about X-men Evolution. I really didn't care for the premise of that show. Ultimately, I think the show turned into something really good despite everything. The first season I found to be really dull and rather lame until the end. Curt Geda definitely helped stepped things up in seasons 2 and 3. He was a great driving force for that show.

So this show right off the bat starts with a stronger premise that's closer to what the X-men should be without the regressing all the characters back to teens in high school stuff. No Nightcrawler spouting silly one-liners or the annoying Spyke. Or Kitty being a valley girl from the mall.

None of that's an issue with this show.

I think what's good though is since the show does have similarities in design, style, and creative team to Evolution it can draw interest for that alone and hopefully since Evo is fresher in everyone's minds, "hey this is like Evolution, going to check it out."

I think what people are going to miss from Evolution is that the show developed Cyclops as a strong, leadership type character. Much of the 52 episodes of that show are about Cyclops coming into his role as a leader, being groomed to be the leader, and the team's main field leader. As well as building for what many fans is the OTP of Jean Grey/Scott Summers.

I think Cyclops is still a good character in this show, and they don't just write him off like X-men 3. Cyclops is there and ultimately he's going to have to confront himself and deal with his problems. He hopefully won't stay broken forever. And there's a great subplot between Wolverine/Cyclops that they will hopefully exploit. If there isn't a knockdown, drag out brawl between Wolvie and Cyke at some point in this show, the way it's set up, I will be sorely disappointed.

[Ian]

So this show right off the bat starts with a stronger premise that's closer to what the X-men should be without the regressing all the characters back to teens in high school stuff.
None of that's an issue with this show. Ah, but there's the rub: what are the X-Men about? Personally, I believe that X-Men is be about a minority's fight to be accepted, and the evolution of the world's treatment of that minority. Given that and the so-called allegorical nature of the thing (more than one creator has claimed that "mutants" have been stand-ins for non-white and/or gay people, at different times in their livespan) sending the kids to school, as it were, turned out to be a much better way to tell the story. After all, it's not like we're sending all black, latino or gay kids to one school for "gifted children".



I think what people are going to miss from Evolution is that the show developed Cyclops as a strong, leadership type character. Much of the 52 episodes of that show are about Cyclops coming into his role as a leader, being groomed to be the leader, and the team's main field leader. As well as building for what many fans is the OTP of Jean Grey/Scott Summers.Really? The impression I've gotten over the years is the opposite: that people liked Evo Scott because he wasn't just Leader Man--that's all that is generally expected of him--but was a pretty fun guy in addition to that. And if I remember correctly, people were generally more enthusiastic about the potential Scott/Rogue pairing than they were about Scott/Jean. Heck, I believe there's even an interview where one of the creators admits that part of what they had been implying with the finale is that Jean eventually leaves the picture and that Rogue and Scott do get together.


If there isn't a knockdown, drag out brawl between Wolvie and Cyke at some point in this show, the way it's set up, I will be sorely disappointed.I'd be dissapointed if there is. One would think Professor X taught his students better than that.

In any case, I'll be awaiting the series. I've gotten pretty burnt out on the X-Men since Morrison--and any sense of direction--left the series, but hell, I'll give this a shot.

[TheVileOne]

Ah, but there's the rub: what are the X-Men about? Personally, I believe that X-Men is be about a minority's fight to be accepted, and the evolution of the world's treatment of that minority. Given that and the so-called allegorical nature of the thing (more than one creator has claimed that "mutants" have been stand-ins for non-white and/or gay people, at different times in their livespan) sending the kids to school, as it were, turned out to be a much better way to tell the story. After all, it's not like we're sending all black, latino or gay kids to one school for "gifted children".

Yeah, yeah I know. What I mean is, it was a weak premise that the show ultimately sort of altered. At the start mutants were a secret. Xavier altered peoples' minds to keep them a secret. So eventually everyone was ousted at the end of season 2, and the story became a lot better.

While I liked a lot of the characters, I didn't really care for them being teenaged stereotypes. Especially Kitty being the mall valley girl. Spyke being the skateboard kid. Etc.


Really? The impression I've gotten over the years is the opposite: that people liked Evo Scott because he wasn't just Leader Man--that's all that is generally expected of him--but was a pretty fun guy in addition to that. And if I remember correctly, people were generally more enthusiastic about the potential Scott/Rogue pairing than they were about Scott/Jean. Heck, I believe there's even an interview where one of the creators admits that part of what they had been implying with the finale is that Jean eventually leaves the picture and that Rogue and Scott do get together.

I'm sure you can interpret that in many ways with Rogue/Scott. I definitely find that an interesting pairing. I liked the idea of a Rogue/Scott/Jean triangle. Its something a lot different than the usual Jean/Logan/Scott thing. But ultimately, I felt it was all about those two. I mean sure, Emma Frost and Scott are together now in the comics, and its been that way for quite some time, several years now. But most fans will still say its all about Scott and Jean.

Scott as the fun loving type. Sure that's there. But there's a definite shift. In season 3, Scott stands up to Logan and says "No, this is how we are going to do business." Also later on he's trying to keep the kids from goofing off. So Scott at 18 is growing into the adult leadership role, and yeah he has a good time and all that. But I've never gotten this idea that Cyclops can never loosen up.


I'd be dissapointed if there is. One would think Professor X taught his students better than that.

The dude's still a dude. They have one scuffle that ends rather quickly which you've seen in the trailer ;) .

In any case, at some point it feels there has to be an emotional climax to all the tension, that's at least metaphorical if not literally done. I don't think Cyclops and Wolverine can continue to co-exist in their current state. It's an odd role-reversal to be sure.


In any case, I'll be awaiting the series. I've gotten pretty burnt out on the X-Men since Morrison--and any sense of direction--left the series, but hell, I'll give this a shot.

I think what you will like is that the show has a clear direction and storyline. It knows where its going. And its set up marvelously. And if the trailers and early episodes are any indication we are going to see a ton of characters.

[Silverstar]

Here's my thing about X-men Evolution. I really didn't care for the premise of that show. While I liked a lot of the characters, I didn't really care for them being teenaged stereotypes. Especially Kitty being the mall valley girl. Spyke being the skateboard kid. Etc.

Agreed. I appreciate that the writers wanted to do a different take on the X-Men which hadn't been done before as opposed to just rehashing X:TAS, but I didn't agree with turning the show into X-Men 90210 at all. And Spyke was just a waste of a character to me; it's enough that they chose to screw with Storm's back story by relating Evan to Ororo, but if he was going to be Storm's nephew, he should've gotten a more dignified power than those cheesy bony spikes. Evan should have been a stand-alone character.

Which is why I'm not lamenting the fact that W&tXM isn't going to be Evo season 5.

[Beastbot X]

Here's my thing about X-men Evolution. I really didn't care for the premise of that show. Ultimately, I think the show turned into something really good despite everything. The first season I found to be really dull and rather lame until the end. Curt Geda definitely helped stepped things up in seasons 2 and 3. He was a great driving force for that show.

So this show right off the bat starts with a stronger premise that's closer to what the X-men should be without the regressing all the characters back to teens in high school stuff. No Nightcrawler spouting silly one-liners or the annoying Spyke. Or Kitty being a valley girl from the mall.

I will agree that the first season was the weakest, but I really liked the "back to basics" thing, though probably part of that was that I wasn't all that familiar with the X-Men in the first place. (Heck, for a while I thought Shadowcat, like Spyke, had been created just for Evo.)

And the whole thing about Evolution was the evolution of the X-Men. Yeah, Spyke started out as an annoying little brat, but I'm pretty sure that was intentional. He grew up pretty quickly once Mutants were exposed to the general public.

And Kitty's valley-girl-ness.... yeah, that was a little annoying, but that lasted, like, what, half a season? They dialed that down noticeably after "Spykecam" and did away with it completely by the second season. (And even in the first season, they dropped hints of her being a bit of a prodigy and all-- hardly part of the valley girl stereotype.) Besides, even ignoring that, I LOVED her introductory episode and after they did away with her saying "like" every sentence, she quickly grew to become my favorite X-Man in the show.

Though it may have seemed that way for the first episode or two after they were introduced, ultimately I felt none of them were stereotypes. Sure, some of them leaned towards certain stereotypes-- Jean the popular girl, Rogue the goth-- but none of them fit into those stereotypes completely, and practically everyone "leans" towards certain stereotypes.


Ah, but there's the rub: what are the X-Men about? Personally, I believe that X-Men is be about a minority's fight to be accepted, and the evolution of the world's treatment of that minority. Given that and the so-called allegorical nature of the thing (more than one creator has claimed that "mutants" have been stand-ins for non-white and/or gay people, at different times in their livespan) sending the kids to school, as it were, turned out to be a much better way to tell the story. After all, it's not like we're sending all black, latino or gay kids to one school for "gifted children".

I did think putting the kids in a public school was a very good move by the writers, and a major way to distinguish it from any other X-Men series. It you want Mutants to be accepted, the last thing you want to do is cut them off from society.
Putting aside my moral opposition to homosexuality, I always thought that was an incredibly poor allegory, myself, whether you're comparing it to racism or homosexuality. Mutants are an allegory for... Mutants, and anyone who tries to make it deeper than that is stretching it, IMO. The situation with Mutants is so radically different that it's not like anything humanity has ever faced IRL, and the similarities are only superficial. The whole thing about Mutants is their destructive capablity, and really, when you think about it (and I'm going by Evo and the movies here, I'm only a little familiar with the comics), people like Robert Kelly and Bolivar Trask DO raise very valid points. Why should you just take a Mutant's word that they won't do harm with their powers? Is it really safe and wise to keep them among the normal populace without publically identifying them? To use some quotes from the first movie and Evo:

Kelly: "You oppose handguns, correct? Well, some of these children possess ten times the destructive force of any handgun. No, I don't see a difference, all I see are weapons in our schools."

Wolverine: "We're NOT all the same. Some of us fight the good fight."
Trask: "Yes, but WE get caught in the crossfire. Someone must ensure the survival of our species-- before it's too late."

Kelly (to Jean): "This school has been plagued by disaster-- fires, explosions, vicious beasts! It makes so much sense now... you're a menace!" (And let's not forget that Kelly witnessed a disaster happen at their school at the beginning of Evo's second season, but then he finds out no one remembers it except for him-- how is he supposed to react to that? Honestly?)

It's a question that doesn't have an easy answer (if it has a satisfactory answer at all), and it's so much more than just "Oh, people just need to get over their previous misconceptions/bigotries". That's one of the things that I think makes the whole X-Men idea such a fantastic concept, while things like plane-hopping, aliens, etc., just poison and distort that whole concept and make it too much like any other superhero series. Which is why my enthusiasm towards this new series, while still there, is a bit dampened compared to, say, the movies or when I was looking forward to the next season of Evo. And it's also why the whole "Well, we've got people who can fire beams out of their eyes, why not aliens?" doesn't do it for me. That part of sci-fi is necessary for the whole idea of X-Men-- aliens, etc., aren't and just distract from the best part of the concept, to me. But then I can turn around and also be a huge fan of something like Transformers, which is nothing BUT aliens, space battles, etc., because that's required for the whole idea of the franchise. But it's not for the X-Men.

[Spider-Man]

Discussion is all over the place! For the Canadians watching Wolverine & The X-Men this weekend, it will only be the first episode, not the whole three-part opener. I can't seem to find any re-run times on the YTV website either so it looks like it is airing in just one timeslot so far which is Saturday at 7pm.

[thanos28542]

Oh, I totally understand why they're doing it. And as I said earlier, I'm sure it will have great writing with Johnson and the others behind it. It's more a personal complaint about the show than a universal one. To me, the X-Men are always more interesting when they're people first and superheroes second (which is why the Evoverse and the Movieverse are my favorites by a long shot. I mean, I highly doubt we'll see episodes like "Retreat" or "Cruise Control" in this series, or as much exploration into personal interests, X-Men just hanging out, etc.). Adding in all this extra stuff and making it commonplace-- aliens, really futuristic stuff, time travel, etc.-- it just makes it all less like they're people and more like they're superheroes first. I've never been able to get into other superhero shows like the Justice League, no matter how well they're written, because of this. And bringing X-Men back to its "classic" formula just makes it stand out far less, in my eyes. I mean, I NEVER knew anything more about X-Men than "Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Professor X, Beast" until the 1st movie and then Evo came out, and THAT'S when it all captured my interest enough for me to buy the X-Men Ultimate Guide to see what I was missing in the comics, which it turns out wasn't much in my mind.



So in a nutshell, you're a non comic book fan who is not familiar with the comic book history of the X-men & prefers that "SUPERHEROES" in a "SUPERHERO" based cartoon, be depicted less as"SUPERHEROES" & more like "normal" people....gimme a break!

If you want that, then watch soap operas like Smallville, 90210 or the OC. I'm a hardcore MU/DCU fan & when I hear a cartoon based on any MU/DCU team or solo character is being made, I want to see accurate depictions of those characters, high amounts of kick butt battles between good guys/bad guys that fully showcase their powers & less romance or lame kiddie jokes, etc.

IMO, the 90s X-men animated series is still the greatest depiction of the X-team cuz it dealt with stories that happened in the comics & weren't made up crap that the writers thought would appeal to the kiddies or non comic fans. If you didn't know crap about the "Dark Phoenix saga" or "Days of futures past", oh well, your SOL, go buy the comic & read about it.

The fact that you put down one of the greatest, if not the greatest superhero team shows of all time, Justice League/JLU, shot down your credibility to zero. The space fairing adventures have always been a part of the X-universe, how the heck do you think characters such as the Imperial guard & Starjammers got introduced to the MU? It wasn't at High school or the mall!

From what I've seen of the promo clips, I like what I'm seeing & think the writers know what we, the real X-fans want out of an X-men cartoon. While I'm not crazy about it being called WATXM, I understand that he's the most recognizable character to non-comic fans & that's why they did it.

As a huuuuge Sentinel fanatic, I eagerly look forward to their appearances in the show, from what I gather, the Sentinels seem to be the major menace & the main reason the X-men have to stop thier dark future from happening, hope we see Nimrod as well!

Sorry to vent, but I really hate when non-comic fans want a less superhero centric show & a more lame , normal show, sorry, a 'SUPERHERO" cartoon should be about the superheros 1st, then the people under the masks 2nd.

[TheVileOne]

I think this is getting a little too heated.

Look. The show is very much a sci-fi action adventure show. It is going to use a sort of time travel device, but that at least references a classic X-men story.

SK is not presented in an implausible manner. He's a powerful parasitic, host type of mutant.

So the show isn't "poisoned" by these elements. The human characters are still human characters.

The premise though is more of an adult super hero oriented team show instead of a mutants in high school show.

However that doesn't curb the human element or drama in this show. It's all there. There are a lot of sweet moments in the first three episodes alone.

No matter what anyone here thinks of the X-men, I think everyone is going to find something to like about this show.

[Stu]

Can we get back on topic please? As TheVileOne mentioned, this is getting a little too heated.

And thanos28542, if you wish to continue posting here, please respect the opinions of others, whether they are fans of the comic book or not. Your attitude towards Beastbot X is entirely unwarranted and uncalled for. If you don't have a sharp change in attitude soon, you simply won't be welcome to post here. Cool?

Now, who's excited for Saturday's premiere? The trailer for this has appeared on all the Marvel DVDs Liberation was released so far and I'm really pumped for it. This looks like one to astonish us!

[Windrider]

hey you know how it comes out on dvd in november do you think i will be able to buy it on itunes or is there a british itunes. Sorry if i sound stupid i just gotta know there will be no other way for me to watch it!

[Rick Jones]

hey you know how it comes out on dvd in november do you think i will be able to buy it on itunes or is there a british itunes. Sorry if i sound stupid i just gotta know there will be no other way for me to watch it!
Liberation's latest newsletter mentions it being released in 2009

[Beastbot X]

Look. The show is very much a sci-fi action adventure show. It is going to use a sort of time travel device, but that at least references a classic X-men story.









SK is not presented in an implausible manner. He's a powerful parasitic, host type of mutant.


So the show isn't "poisoned" by these elements. The human characters are still human characters.


The premise though is more of an adult super hero oriented team show instead of a mutants in high school show.


No matter what anyone here thinks of the X-men, I think everyone is going to find something to like about this show.


Again, your descriptions in the spoiler brackets are encouraging, and I understand why they are making the changes they are. And who knows, I may end up liking this series a lot more than I think I will. And yeah, "poisoned" may have been a bit too strong of a word... maybe "diluted" is more descriptive of what I think. Mojo was more of the "Awww, man, not him!" moment I had when viewing the trailer.

And in response to thanos' comments that weren't just inflammatory-- the show needs to appeal to people who aren't just huge comic book fans if it wants to succeed. Hence why they're probably going to cover territory that big time X-fans already know, like Wolverine's past and the development of the Sentinel program (though with their own unique twist on things, I'm sure-- Johnson and the others are, if nothing else, very competent writers). I'm not a soap opera-fan, and wouldn't have liked Evo if it had JUST focused on that aspect of their lives. The inclusion of both, without going too far in either direction, is what I enjoy the most. I liked episodes like "Dark Horizon" just as much as I enjoyed episodes like "Retreat", and think they both have a place in an X-Men series.

But regardless, back on topic, I AM looking forward the premiere quite a bit, if for nothing else than to finally have X-Men back on the tube again after 5+ years-- it's just tempered, cautionary enthusiasm. Too bad I have to wait until January to see the premier though, grrr...

[suss2it]

Yes, she is on the team. She chose to stay with the X-Men, her family.
She still haven´t done much yet, her flashback with Shadow King and Xavier was awesome, though.Dude, can you please not post spoilers without the tabs, some of us haven't seen it yet, and don't want to read spoilers.

[HavokBr]

Yesterday´s episode was great!
It takes Nightcrawler to the spotlight, he´s going to Genosha and ends up fighting Spiral, who´s casting fighters for Mojo. I really liked the take on Kurt, it really feels like the comicbook character. And in the end he didn´t join the X-Men, but keep on going with other mutants to Genosha. even Pixie shows up this episode!

[B-kun]

Yesterday´s episode was great!
It takes Nightcrawler to the spotlight, he´s going to Genosha and ends up fighting Spiral, who´s casting fighters for Mojo. I really liked the take on Kurt, it really feels like the comicbook character. And in the end he didn´t join the X-Men, but keep on going with other mutants to Genosha. even Pixie shows up this episode!

How was he handled specfically? I remember the 90s cartoon focussed too much on his religious side while Evo had his fun loving side. Did this show find a nice in-between, or?

[HavokBr]

How was he handled specfically? I remember the 90s cartoon focussed too much on his religious side while Evo had his fun loving side. Did this show find a nice in-between, or?


It is something in between, though there´s nothing about his religious side, I think it is implicit in his persona. He shows up more like a "pirate elf", u know? I thought it was great, reminded me of early Claremont/ Byrne era

[Windrider]

oooh i can't wait for this show does anyone know when it's coming out on dvd officially. also has dust appeared yet

[HavokBr]

oooh i can't wait for this show does anyone know when it's coming out on dvd officially. also has dust appeared yet

Yes, she did on the first episode.

Episode #7
Flashbacks, Wendigo, Ultimate Nick Fury... the HULK... ´nuff said

[thanos28542]

I really hope that the Sentinels are treated with a bit more respect & shown to be the formidable 20 ft Terminators on steroids that they are. My one major peeve with the 90s series was that they portrayed the Sentinels to be these weak lumbering robots that could be taken out by X-men as weak as Jubilee!

Only the most powerful mutants should be able to take on a triad of Sentinels or more & win, those would have to be heavy hitters such as Magneto, Phoenix, etc. Even Wolvy should not be able to take out a triad of Sentinels by himself.

As for Nimrod himself, it should take an entire team of mutants to defeat him, & even then Nimrod should win, he is the ultimate Sentinel after all.

[creativerealms]

I really hope that the Sentinels are treated with a bit more respect & shown to be the formidable 20 ft Terminators on steroids that they are. My one major peeve with the 90s series was that they portrayed the Sentinels to be these weak lumbering robots that could be taken out by X-men as weak as Jubilee!

Only the most powerful mutants should be able to take on a triad of Sentinels or more & win, those would have to be heavy hitters such as Magneto, Phoenix, etc. Even Wolvy should not be able to take out a triad of Sentinels by himself.

As for Nimrod himself, it should take an entire team of mutants to defeat him, & even then Nimrod should win, he is the ultimate Sentinel after all.

That is why I liked how the Sentinels were treated in Evo. They were a true threat taking out a ton of mutants before finally falling. Sure they were easier to defeat when they returned in season four but that was a very powered up Magneto.

[AerostarMonk]

So can someone tell me why every other country is getting the show before the country of origin?

[Rick Jones]

Just saw a promo on Nicktoons that said it was coming January 09

The promo was basically a glowing x logo with voiceovers from the show in the background ending with Wolverine saying "We're bringing back the X-Men" (at least I think thats what he said, don't remember word for word)

[Antiyonder]

I think people who are still angry over the end of JLU would like this show and they should check it out.

Would be more than happy to do so, if I had Nicktoons:mad:

I mean, X-Men is a big name franchise to the point where even non comic readers have an understanding of the characters, thus I'm puzzled as to why they are giving it an instant demotion to Nicktoons rather than giving it a chance on Nickelodeon.

[Windrider]

Antiyonder i totally agree i don't have nicktoons either but we will just have to wait until it comes out on dvd and by it on itunes or in the stores if yoy want to wait.



oh and also i am full of questions so sorry if i am bugging someone but is the show wolverine centered or was that just a promotional gimmick?

[Antiyonder]

oh and also i am full of questions so sorry if i am bugging someone but is the show wolverine centered or was that just a promotional gimmick?

The trailers indicate Wolverine taking charge, thus unless those watch the show can say otherwise, I imagine he is the main character.

[Mad Hatter]

Yes, she did on the first episode.

Episode #7
Flashbacks, Wendigo, Ultimate Nick Fury... the HULK... ´nuff said

-shocked- Did...did you say

Wendigo AND Ultimate Nick Fury? And someone else said Pixie! And David North! And Dust. That means we could see Surge! And Prodigy, and Elixir, and, and, and -hyperventilates, screams like a woman at a Beatles concert in the '60's, then faints like a girl-

Three hours later...

Sorry. those are just too many comic characters to handle for me. I'm not a Wendigo fan, but I did like the New X-Men comics, for the most part. And the characters you mentioned! Sweeeeeet. I want Rockslide, and Hellion, and Mercury, and Wither, and...

One hour later...

and Magma and Danielle Moonstar and Karma and Cannonball and Sunspot and Wolfsbane. Whew. There. Got that out of my system. :D :p

Make 'em laugh, make 'em laugh, make 'em laaaa-aaa-aaaugh!

[TheVileOne]

The great amount of character variety we look to be getting in this show is awesome.

[HavokBr]

Episode #8
Psylocke! it was great she even have that butterfly effect, remember? it´s awesome!

[Beastbot X]

The great amount of character variety we look to be getting in this show is awesome.

Indeed, the only downside is if they introduce everyone TOO fast, which looks possible from the fact that EVERY episode so far seems to introduce SOMEone. It's fine for the beginning of the series, but I hope it winds down soon. I hope they don't overcrowd the roster so much that not many people get proper characterization.

[Windrider]

your right beastbox that could be the worst thing that could happen it would'nt be bad if they just made a appearance and then didn't join the team. but remember in evo all the new recruits didn't do anything

[Silverstar]

your right beastbox that could be the worst thing that could happen it would'nt be bad if they just made a appearance and then didn't join the team. but remember in evo all the new recruits didn't do anything


Most of the new recruits in Evo weren't meant to do anything. For the most part, they were just there to make the school look full, like in the live-action movies. Only a select few of them, like Iceman, were supposed to be key players (in fact in Iceman's case, he was originally going to be one of the main mutants on the show, but he was replaced at the last minute by Spyke, supposedly for racial diversity).

Similarly, I don't think that it's the W&tXM producers' intention to have every single mutant character join the team. I'm guessing many of them are just being featured as a nod to comics' fans, as this series is supposed to appeal to fans of all eras of the comics.

[TheVileOne]

Exactly characters like the Hulk aren't going to be in every episode. According to Steven Blum, Gambit only guest stars in two episodes.

So I mean, we have to see them interact with new characters each episode anyway. It's just cool that we get guest stars of classic X-men characters instead of random, or silly new characters.

[ShadowStar]

Episode #8
Psylocke! it was great she even have that butterfly effect, remember? it´s awesome!

:eek:

[HEATXZ]

Awesome we got Pixie and Dust,It would be great if we got Rockslide Gentle,Elixir,and Mercury to appear

[Windrider]

so most of us have not seen the show yet with the exception of the lucky few but who wants to make a guess of the main team after the pilot( since they were still scrambling)

ok my guess is wolverine, storm,iceman,shadowcat,emma,beast,cyclops,angel(this is a definite maybe),and nightcrawler(also a maybe)

[Spideyzilla]

Well, the first episode airs tomorrow. In Canada. Finally we get the first crack at something good! Can't wait!:D

[creativerealms]

I just caught a teaser for Wolverine and the X-men on Nicktoons. It was nothing special, just a few seconds of dialog (No images sadly) with a black screen that has a red X-men logo. Not really much but a advertisement in Early September for a show they are airing in january is a good sign.

[TheVileOne]

Image of Psylocke from the series posted on Wikipedia with the butterfly effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Psylocke-WatXM.png

Awesome.

So can anyone tell me if Psylocke had any sort of romantic tension with anyone in the episode, like say Angel?

[ShadowStar]

Image of Psylocke from the series posted on Wikipedia with the butterfly effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Psylocke-WatXM.png

Awesome.

So can anyone tell me if Psylocke had any sort of romantic tension with anyone in the episode, like say Angel?

I want to know if that pairing is canon in this series too.

[CaptainCanada]

Awesome we got Pixie and Dust,It would be great if we got Rockslide Gentle,Elixir,and Mercury to appear
Rockslide has a nonspeaking part in episode 1; he's an inmate in the MRD holding facility, along with Dust.

[bigdeath]

Is this show already airring?

[Rud]

Is this show already airring?

in both Canada and Brazil (every day)

[bigdeath]

*Makes me cry* I missing the x-men. :crying:

[HEATXZ]

Rockslide has a nonspeaking part in episode 1; he's an inmate in the MRD holding facility, along with Dust.Wohoo! now to wait for the others
I don't understand why Brazil and Canada are airing the show first before the US

[TheVileOne]

Honestly I think its silly the show isn't airing in states yet at this point. It's out there right now, if its finished they should start showing it this year.

I mean I know Wolverine comes out in May, but come on, what's with the wait? You can still spread it out and have like the big finale around the time of Wolverine's release.

It could be a toy thing. I'm really hoping that we finally see some toys when Toy Fair 09 rolls around. If we don't get figures for this show, I will be very disappointed.

[CaptainCanada]

Wohoo! now to wait for the others
I don't understand why Brazil and Canada are airing the show first before the US
I assume it's Bush's fault somehow.

[BigEclipse]

I too am upset that the series isn't airing yet in the states, but to be honest, the show was developed independently by Marvel and First Serve Toonz, and not for a particular network. Any American network could have picked up the show's rights, but balked at it pretty early with Nicktoons finally snatching it up. CN could have picked it up and started airing it alongside Ben 10 either Friday nights or Saturday mornings but chose not to. Canada and Brazil jumped on it early and are now enjoying the ripe fruit that it is.

[TheVileOne]

BBC also jumped on it early and look what happened. They disgustingly betrayed all fans with the way they treated the show.

Also, we don't know who balked it at first time around if anybody. We don't know if any offers were made that Marvel didn't take.

[dark knight 90]

For the quality this show has... lets hope it gets a successful and regular time-slot on NickToons come 2009.

Do you think all these supposed DVD releases in the UK (:shrug: Boo the BBC)... and episodes airing months before the America premiere date... could potentially dampen the ratings?

[Windrider]

dark knight i could definiatley see that if everyone here has already seen it. then that could happen.


But i just saw this show (only the first episode though) and it is AWESOME!!!! i love it. Kitty is way differant than in evo, she demands respect and she made me laugh. oh i love beast and wolverine is actually tolerable

[TheVileOne]

For the quality this show has... lets hope it gets a successful and regular time-slot on NickToons come 2009.

Do you think all these supposed DVD releases in the UK (:shrug: Boo the BBC)... and episodes airing months before the America premiere date... could potentially dampen the ratings?

I think its a question of marketing and placement. If they screw the show over and shove it around a lot people aren't going to find it.

Look, all the X-men shows before were big successes. Those were both on two different networks. TAS on Fox. Evolution on Kids WB/sometimes CN. This is again a new change of scenery for the X-men, but the brand has been a consistent success in animation before twice. There's tons of potential money here, but if they screw it over like BBC has, people aren't going to find it.

Nicktoons needs to market and make this show like the flagship of Nicktoons. Since Nicktoons is not the same as Nickelodeon, that might be a strike against the show.

As for the other airings, my hope is that it will simply get people more interested and excited about the show since we are all talking about it now, and it gets an official US premiere in a few months not long before the Wolverine movie, when the marketing for that will be getting ramped up.

[creativerealms]

Well they are already hyping it giving it ads already so Nicktoons does seem to be doing things right so far. Still time will tell, a five second teaser in September is one thing, what they actually do in January is another.

[Windrider]

wow this board has really slown down.:sad:


i think this show has the potential to be the greatest marvel toon ever

[Wonderwall]

wow this board has really slown down.:sad:


i think this show has the potential to be the greatest marvel toon ever

Well aside from South America, there has only been one episode that's aired in North America.

[ShadowStar]

wow this board has really slown down.:sad:


i think this show has the potential to be the greatest marvel toon ever

Maybe, though I was disappointed with "Hindsight part 1". I hope parts 2 and 3 are more exciting and eventful.

[lukecage]

is there somewhere i can watch this online.

[TheVileOne]

If you are looking for download links, you've come to the wrong place.

We don't give out that kind of stuff here.

[Neo Ultra Mike]

When watching part of the Avatar marathon, they actually had a very small promo for this cartoon that said it's airing January 2009. In other words we'll finally be able to see it legally here in the states in about four or so months. Unfourantley I don't have the video capture tools to find the ad but believe me it's coming (according to Nicktoons Network) January 2009. Not sure when and where on the block though but it's at least being announced and promotions are starting. Which you know they must be excited about airing if they're already startnig to promote it four months away.

[Rick Jones]

I think there's two promos now

The one with the glowing X logo and then the LAZER AWESOME promo. On second thought , Wolverine probably wasn't in that second promo though Iron Man was. It was kind of blink and you miss it and I only saw it once when I was watching Avatar.

[TheVileOne]

Hopefully Nicktoons has the foresight to air the pilot as a big event, all three parts together.

This show should be a success. If it's not, the only reason it will not be is because of bad marketing and promotion from Nicktoons.

[Windrider]

Hmmmm. I have a question for the people who have seen this. Where does rougue stand X-men or Brotherhood?

[creativerealms]

I think there's two promos now

The one with the glowing X logo and then the LAZER AWESOME promo. On second thought , Wolverine probably wasn't in that second promo though Iron Man was. It was kind of blink and you miss it and I only saw it once when I was watching Avatar.

Both wolverine and Iron man were in the second promo. Which was less of a LAZER AWESOME promo and more just a general overview on whats coming to Nicktoons soon. LA just seems to be their front runner right now.

[TheVileOne]

Hmmmm. I have a question for the people who have seen this. Where does rougue stand X-men or Brotherhood?

If you REALLY need to know:

Rogue is on the fence about joining at first, but Domino is able to convince her to join in. At first it looks like Rogue isn't happy with what they are doing and is going to re-join the X-men, but instead it turns out to be all a ruse, and she helps implicate the X-men in an attack on Senator Kelly's mutant registration rally. So it looks like Rogue is fully entrenched with the Brotherhood by the end of the pilot.

Greg Johnson, the head writer of the series, saw a lot of the spoiler discussions going on at the CBR forums and had this to say:



Hey folks. Wow, this is an active board. Just a little cautionary note from the head writer of the series. I see that many of you are reading hastily-cobbled together episode summaries to satisfy your curiosities. But in doing so, you're robbing yourselves of a pretty unique X-Men experience. How often does an X-Men show come along that has enough story continuity and surprise guest stars to truly engage you? I believe this series can, and trust me when I say that the unfolding of the plot and the calculated reveals we’ve put in place have been very carefully woven together so that when the three part finale finally does come, it’ll be a memorable event. So I have to ask, why, as X-Men fans, would you want to rob yourself of that? Twenty-six episodes will go by quickly enough, and right now, that’s all there is. (It breaks my heart that Jetix has opted to blow out the episodes in a few weeks time. That just makes no sense to me.) So take my advice – enjoy the experience that we’ve worked so hard to build for you, and avoid the spoilers. You'll thank me. http://forums.comicbookresources.com/images/smilies/original/smile.gif

Greg Johnson

[Antiyonder]

wow this board has really slown down.:sad:

I think the discussion will be higher when the show gets a DVD release.

[TheVileOne]

Or when the show actually gets a US premiere.

[Antiyonder]

Or when the show actually gets a US premiere.

Except that Nicktoons is a network for the privileged viewers. Not everyone has the channel.

[Windrider]

oooh i loved the new episode it was great i won't tell you anything but rougue is a jerk!!!!


And i am not sure about the animation yet it's defianatley differant, not sure if i like it yet

[ctgrumpybear]

how big of a role storm have so far??/

[CaptainCanada]

She appeared sans lines for two seconds in episode 1; hasn't been seen or mentioned since. But she's in the credits, so I imagine she'll turn up in the next episode.

[Windrider]

storm has a episode called overflow which is right after the pilot i've only seen pics of it but it looks really good

[HavokBr]

Storm has been popping up here and there. there are some nice scenes of her in action.
Episode #12 was awesome. Emma helps Scott find Jean, and goes through Sinister and the Marauders. Jean (or Madelyne) shows up in the end, with amnesia... All Emma scenes wer really true to the character, I like how she talks with Logan... and the sense of continuity is really great, this time Berseker shows up in the present as a little boy (he had been seen in the future, as an adult. The show is on fire, I can´t wait to watch today!

Mod Note: Inappropriate language removed.

[ctgrumpybear]

I saw parts of overflow "not in english" and what I sae I have to said some fans of ROLO"Wolverine & Storm " MAY LOVE THIS EP

Mod Note: References to illegally uploaded videos is prohibited.

[Windrider]

really? I personally like wolverine when he is with storm I think they make a good couple!

But I saw Hindsight part two and i loved it the only thing i didn't like was icemans iceslide it was not animated very good






Oh and check out my new avatar its AWESOME huh

[Spideyzilla]

really? I personally like wolverine when he is with storm I think they make a good couple!

But I saw Hindsight part two and i loved it the only thing i didn't like was icemans iceslide it was not animated very good






Oh and check out my new avatar its AWESOME huh

It is awesome.

[ctgrumpybear]

really? I personally like wolverine when he is with storm I think they make a good couple!

But I saw Hindsight part two and i loved it the only thing i didn't like was icemans iceslide it was not animated very good






Oh and check out my new avatar its AWESOME huh
Same here

i was hoping there was going to be some focus on Wolverine/storm like in the comics and x men:AS

Next to OF has there been anymore possable with W/S??

[TheVileOne]

Well they did get together in an alternate reality in the 90's animated series.

Storm married Black Panther in the comics so she could try and forget about Logan and be away from him more. It's clearly not working.

[HavokBr]

Episode #16 takes it back to the future! Future Xavier´s X-Men vs. Polaris, and it´s absolutely fantastic, Hellion takes the spotlightm wow, lot´s of things happened there. can´t wait to see what happens next!

[ctgrumpybear]

Well they did get together in an alternate reality in the 90's animated series.

Storm married Black Panther in the comics so she could try and forget about Logan and be away from him more. It's clearly not working.


I rember that ep
like to see if there will be more part in Wolverine & The X-Men WITH S/W

[creativerealms]

A new nicktoons network Update for Wolverine. It seems that while they air the "Nicktoons animated festival" starting October first and 11PM Eastern they will be talking with the cast of wolverine and the X-men.

[TheVileOne]

That's good. But Nicktoons I think really just needs to show the pilot as one big event before January, that will really get everyone going.

[creativerealms]

Agreed, yeah it's nice for them to "hype up" the show and all but airing the first three as a special event would probably be the best thing they can do.

[Crossdive]

hold the phone! Just how many episodes have been released (worldwide) to-date? I thought only around 3 (although I can't seem to find out if Hindsight Part 3 aired today as scheduled or not), but now in this thread I'm seeing mention of episodes as late as #20! :confused: Can someone please clear this up for me?

[Rick Jones]

hold the phone! Just how many episodes have been released (worldwide) to-date? I thought only around 3 (although I can't seem to find out if Hindsight Part 3 aired today as scheduled or not), but now in this thread I'm seeing mention of episodes as late as #20! :confused: Can someone please clear this up for me?
In Latin America, Jetix airs like 4 episodes a week, I think, so they're way ahead of everybody.

[Windrider]

Hindsight part 3 was great i thought i would die!!! I like Emma in this the voice actor did really good thats exactly how i thought she would talk! The action was again great, Iceman got a pretty good sequence when he was fighting with magneto, emma also did. Cyclops takes the cake though, and this is coming from the person who has always hated him. He got a good shots at mags!!

[TheVileOne]

Kari Wahlgren plays Emma Frost in this series.

[ShadowStar]

Wikipedia has synopses up for episodes 17-20. Can anyone confirm if they're correct? I must know! Don't look up the spoilers if you don't want to learn some serious spoilers, obviously.

[TheVileOne]

Shadowstar:

If you really want to know, you can check the Super Hero Hype or Comic Book Resource forums.

Next week on YTV will be episode 4. So this will be the first episode in English that hasn't been seen before anyone else.

Hindsight 1-3 was shown together as a pilot preview at SDCC 08.

[Wonderwall]

Episode 3 was pretty good as well. This new show seems to get better with every episode. Unlike most people, I'm a big Cyclops fan, and he looked relatively impressive against Magneto, only other person who wasn't taken out rather quickly was Iceman. And man, Scott looks totally out of place in the X Men, he's all black and grey while everyone else is yellow and blue:p( cept Emma ). I'm assuming that was intentional, to keep pushing the outsider role he has right now.

Overall, These episodes were good in introducing the situation are characters are in. This show seems to be catering to a certain crowd, when it comes to who these characters are, but I'm sure the kiddies will latch on, after all its super heroes. My only complaint is the same one I had with the previous episodes, and that's more of a complaint against YTV. Episode 4 should be good.

[Windrider]

So does anybody have any guesses as to what the explosion was? And i will not be reading spoilers about this because it's the only thing i want to find out later. My only guess is the Shia'r maybe Lilandra needs the professor for something? possibly about the Phoenix?

[DareDevil]

This show is like X-Men: Evolution all grown up. I already dislike the first three episodes, and the fact Wolverine still outshines the rest of the cast unnerves me for obvious reasons. The "Hindsight" series is a good attempt at revisiting some things and making Wolverine the "Golden Boy" of the team once again but fails in the other departments. It's like Bryan Singer's X-Men put into animated format. Now, this doesn't mean I'll dislike every episode, it is a matter of preference and good-hearted opinion. In fact, I did enjoy seeing Magneto in episode 3 because of the fact he proved his superiority over the team as he usually does.

I'll probably keep watching it because I hear Deadpool and Juggernaut will be making appearances and I'd love to see how these characters are handled. Not to mention, Multiple Man. But for now, my hopes for this show aren't faring too well thus far. I can only cross my fingers and hope it gets better by the episode.

[TheVileOne]

If it was like X-men Evolution: All Grown Up, Wolverine wouldn't be the leader. He was a supporting character in that show that never won a single fight.

[Silverstar]

Wolverine & the X-Men is not X-Men: Evolution season 5. How many times must that be said?

And Wolvie was not the team's golden boy on Evo; quite the opposite, actually. It was on the 90's X-Men series that Logan outshone everybody. If it's the same deal here, it's no accident: Wolvie is the title character and the leader of the team, after all.

[TheVileOne]

Right Cyclops was basically the golden boy in Evolution.

I don't think there was anything seriously wrong with the way the character was established in the first episode. People overplay it by saying, "Oh everyone loves Wolverine, and Wolverine is Grampa X-man, and Mr. X-man."

So we see Wolverine overseeing the guys doing a session in the danger room. Makes sense. Wolverine has played himself as a mentor and trainer to many of the younger X-men over the years including Shadowcat, Jubilee, etc. He's also willing to teach some of the boys and girls a lesson if they go out of line or do something to hurt one of the other team members.

The one moment I thought was a little over the top was the Jean blowing the kiss moment, which I thought was a little too childish and catty for Jean to do.

Cyclops leaving and becoming depressed after losing Jean is at least consistent with the character in the comics at certain points.

I think basically if you want to see Wolverine taking a backseat to the stories more often, the show you would want to watch is X-men Evolution.

[W.C.Reaf]

I like the idea that everyone knows Wolverine would be a bad idea for leadership, even the titular character himself.

It's not like they're going "wolverine's the best guy to help us out of this stop we're in. Go Logan!"

I think it's more intriguing that the future depends on Wolverine leading them and not someone else. It'll be interesting to see where they go with that.

And no it's not "X-Men: Evolution all grown up" considering the character design differences and the ages of the characters (kitty and Rogue seem 18 ish while Avalanche and Quicksilver look in their mid twenties). I'd say it's more X-Men: TAS "All Grown Up" more than anything, but even then that doesn't really fit.

[TheVileOne]

Well just about all the main cast in the 90's show were adults, except for Jubilee really.

[DareDevil]

Wolvie is the title character and the leader of the team, after all.

My point exactly. He is still the character who gets the most attention. And I have watched Evolution, and while it wasn't as elaborate on Wolverine being the center of it all it was still there. He usually got the worst end of everything, featured in every episode, and still had eps. surrounding his character. It is Evolution "all grown up" regardless. Just because the plot doesn't let Logan slide in a few eps. like Evolution doesn't mean anything. We're paying for it now with this animated series.


I don't think there was anything seriously wrong with the way the character was established in the first episode. People overplay it by saying, "Oh everyone loves Wolverine, and Wolverine is Grampa X-man, and Mr. X-man."

Seriously? That's obvious what it is. The first three X-Men movies were all about him/featured him the most, the 90's TAS kept him as their primary anti-heroic character feat. in every single episode, he has more X-Men comic books by himself than with the team, there's much more. There's no doubt in the back of my mind that with this series, they are just cashing in more on the appointed leader of the team than anything else. The title of this show fits perfectly because that's truly how it's always been.

[TheVileOne]

My point exactly. He is still the character who gets the most attention. And I have watched Evolution, and while it wasn't as elaborate on Wolverine being the center of it all it was still there. He usually got the worst end of everything, featured in every episode, and still had eps. surrounding his character. It is Evolution "all grown up" regardless. Just because the plot doesn't let Logan slide in a few eps. like Evolution doesn't mean anything. We're paying for it now with this animated series.

I'm really not quite sure what you mean. Can you be more specific why it's Evolution all grown up? Wolverine was not featured in every episode, and he more often than not took the backseat to other more important characters in the series.


Seriously? That's obvious what it is. The first three X-Men movies were all about him/featured him the most, the 90's TAS kept him as their primary anti-heroic character feat. in every single episode, he has more X-Men comic books by himself than with the team, there's much more. There's no doubt in the back of my mind that with this series, they are just cashing in more on the appointed leader of the team than anything else. The title of this show fits perfectly because that's truly how it's always been.

I think there is a lot more going on the series than you really want to or are willing to admit.

This seems more than anything to be fueled by Marvel's overuse (there's another word I'd rather use, but the filter I don't think will allow it) in the comics. And I understand that. But I think this series in a way acknowledges those complaints and concerns and gets past them.

I understand the disappointment in the X-men movies. But I think this surpasses the third movie in many ways. And especially it does build an ensemble outside of Wolverine. Just as JL and JLU built an ensemble outside of the Trinity.

[Antiyonder]

Without going into spoilerific details, how well balanced is Magneto? In some older threads it has been agreed that while the 90s Animated Series and Evolution had good moments, he wasn't as morally ambigous in either:

- 90 Animated Series: While he directly fought the team a couple of times, most appearances would just have him getting into a quarrel with the team and regularly helping them out. Basically low on the antagonist side.

- Evolution: Though he had moments where he helped the X-Men out, he was still played as the villain the majority of the time. Basically low on the protagonist side.

[Wonderwall]

Without going into spoilerific details, how well balanced is Magneto? In some older threads it has been agreed that while the 90s Animated Series and Evolution had good moments, he wasn't as morally ambigous in either:

- 90 Animated Series: While he directly fought the team a couple of times, most appearances would just have him getting into a quarrel with the team and regularly helping them out. Basically low on the antagonist side.

- Evolution: Though he had moments where he helped the X-Men out, he was still played as the villain the majority of the time. Basically low on the protagonist side.

Well he's only been in one episode so far( Well unless for the people who live in South America, lucky...). So it's a bit early to tell, but he did whip X Men ass and give them back Xavier and an offer to live in Genosha.

[Windrider]

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO excited for the new episode tonight. Storm flashback baby! I wonder if it will be better than African Storm in EVO I sure hope so.



I wonder how effective Emma will be in this series, we have never really had a telepath in action before this. I know Jeans a telepath but she almost always uses her TK (telekinisis) in battle.

[Rud]

i cant believe it angle turns into Arcangel in the first season!!, i dint expect it to happen so soon (if at all).

[TwoFaced_Dark24]

i cant believe it angle turns into Arcangel in the first season!!, i dint expect it to happen so soon (if at all).

Episode 19 right?

[Rud]

Episode 19 right?

yes, thats the one.

[ROBOTRON]

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO excited for the new episode tonight. Storm flashback baby! I wonder if it will be better than African Storm in EVO I sure hope so.



I wonder how effective Emma will be in this series, we have never really had a telepath in action before this. I know Jeans a telepath but she almost always uses her TK (telekinisis) in battle.

I can't wait to see it too.

I live in Detroit, Mi...a stones throw from Windsor, Ontario. I wish there was a channel I could pick up on Dish Network (legally) or something.:sweat:

[Rud]

Why is wolverine giving Cyclops pep talks and ultamatums!?, why is Cyclops acting like Wolverine!!??, did they like, change roles for this series or something?

[TwoFaced_Dark24]

yes, thats the one.

What does Sinister look like? Is it his classic appearance or is that Michael Jackson look he currently has in comics?

[Rud]

The last episode............................ is the awesomest x men related thing ive ever seen, ever!!

this is the last episode, assuming nobody wants to know, but i just cant resist posting out the parts i liked most:

im serious, this is some serious spoilerTURN BACK KNOW, i think youd want to, though you may not think so

for those who hate a certain character (apparantly many)

Emma Frost dies, she sacrafices herself to take in the Pheonix force and is blown into a million pieces (its extremely cool), Scott and Jean are Reunited.

Magneto and Quicksilver are exiled from Genosha forever
and now for the thing that actualy matters. the future apparently turns into Age of Apocalipse, apparently (the AoA version of Sinister and Cyke appear), then its like, to be continued.

[Loudaddy777]

Episode 26 isn't the series finale, is it?

[Rud]

Episode 26 isn't the series finale, is it?

just the first season finale, but theres realy no guarantee that they will make more seasons so it could be the finale, time will tell.

[Windrider]

HeHey I have a Question for you without going into major details or spoilers, did storm have a vital role in the series? at least tell me she had a bigger role than in EVO.

[Rud]

HeHey I have a Question for you without going into major details or spoilers, did storm have a vital role in the series? at least tell me she had a bigger role than in EVO.

its like the writers dint know what to do with her, practicaly all the other X Men have a much more Vital role in the series than storm does. Besides being badass when the situation calls for it (sometimes anyway, i can think of a few times where i thought, "you know, Storm could easily swoop right in and save the day in this situation, where is she?), shes basicaly a background character.

[TheVileOne]

I really hope they get a second season. This is the show we've been wanting for years since Justice League ended. You can tell a lot of time and effort was put into it. And if this is it, it's truly a shame.

But at least we get 26 episodes definitely. Better than nothing.

[James Harvey]

Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=100) has a big Wolverine And The X-Men exclusive! Marvel Animation Age has the official episode titles for the initial 26-episode order of Wolverine And The X-Men. For the complete story, click here (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=100)! Only Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=100) has this great scoop!

[TheVileOne]

Not everyone can be a central character in a show like this.

Storm does get her own episode, and it is a very good episode. If they do another season, there's potential for other characters to get highlighted more.

[NightwingAngelo]

I really hope they get a second season. This is the show we've been wanting for years since Justice League ended. You can tell a lot of time and effort was put into it. And if this is it, it's truly a shame.

But at least we get 26 episodes definitely. Better than nothing.


It's so true. It's a miracle!!! LOL! Just kidding.

Really though, this does help things when it comes to the subject of the quality of television, which I have absolutely ripped apart for the last two years.

Until this came on, all I was watching was sports (and hoping for TMNT to return to the way it was before 2006... which doesn't seem to be happening).

Wolverine and the X-men ROCKS hard! :cool:

[Rick Jones]

There's now a trailer-like commercial on Nicktoons showing stuff like the MRD rounding up mutants, the Brotherhood wreaking havoc and Wolverine fighting back

They've been saying there would be these little interviews with voice actors from the show during the Animation Festival

[soundmonkey44]

Quick Question..My cable Provider Doesn't carry nicktoons...Has Marvel Said Weather or not that Wolverine & the X-men & the upcoming iron man cartoons will get DVD releases sometime in 09?

[Rick Jones]

I don't think they've said specifically how soon it will be released after it airs but it has been publicized that Lionsgate has the dvd rights.

[Rtkat3]

If an earlier note gave a spoiler that Magneto and Quicksilver are exiled from Genosha, then who's taking over ruling Genosha?

[suss2it]

If an earlier note gave a spoiler that Magneto and Quicksilver are exiled from Genosha, then who's taking over ruling Genosha?Notice how that person used spoiler tabs?

[Windrider]

Guess what I just noticed,at the beginning of the overflow re-cap when it shows the professor's mind going all whack there are people whispering stuff to him, I listened to it forever, but could'nt figure it out if you do make sure to post it for me. Thanks!!!!!!!!!

[James Harvey]

Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=123) has a huge Wolverine And The X-Men update, including news on an upcoming episode, a preview reel, and confirmation that an additional 26 episodes are currently in pre-production! Click here or on the image below for more.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/wolverinexmen/media/t-trailer_rev.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=123)

Stay tuned for further updates.

[batsy2]

Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=123) has a huge Wolverine And The X-Men update, including news on an upcoming episode, a preview reel, and confirmation that an additional 26 episodes are currently in pre-production! Click here or on the image below for more.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/wolverinexmen/media/t-trailer_rev.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=123)

Stay tuned for further updates.



excellent to see that season 2 is green lit and maybe well see the age of apocolypse man i cannot wait to see where this takes us

[thundarr82]

James Harvey, The preview reel was...X-Cellent, thank you for it. I am looking forward to seeing the X-Men on tv again, and this series looks like it will be a mix of new designs as well as classic looks for Marvel's Mutants.

[Rud]

and confirmation that an additional 26 episodes are currently in pre-production! Click here or on the image below for more.

Stay tuned for further updates.

yes, i was getting worried there for a minute, Bring on Apocalypse!!!!!!!!!

[Danzigg]

Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=123) has a huge Wolverine And The X-Men update, including news on an upcoming episode, a preview reel, and confirmation that an additional 26 episodes are currently in pre-production! Click here or on the image below for more.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/wolverinexmen/media/t-trailer_rev.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=123)

Stay tuned for further updates.

Nice scoop, can't wait for it to air here in the UK

[roadblock]

i can only find up to episode 8. Where are you guys getting the newer episodes from?

[Rud]

i can only find up to episode 8. Where are you guys getting the newer episodes from?

the newer episodes only exist in spanish right now, episode 8 is as far as we can get in english (till canada airs episode 9 anyway).

[roadblock]

the newer episodes only exist in spanish right now, episode 8 is as far as we can get in english (till canada airs episode 9 anyway).
yet another reason i should have paid attn. in Spanish class in HS

[lukecage]

episode 9 "future x" im just dying to see how bishop is going to look.

[Rtkat3]

I've seen Fever Pitch in "Greetings from Genosha," but was unable to identify his voice actor. I still can't identify Pyro's voice actor. Tara Strong voices Dust.

[Wonderwall]

I've seen Fever Pitch in "Greetings from Genosha," but was unable to identify his voice actor. I still can't identify Pyro's voice actor. Tara Strong voices Dust.

Aside from grunting did he even talk? Could've been anybody doing that. And This is probably the wrong thread, you want the Canadian thread.

[suss2it]

Aside from grunting did he even talk? Could've been anybody doing that. And This is probably the wrong thread, you want the Canadian thread.

Yea he did talk, he said something like "Nothing personal X-Man" and a little more.

[Ultraman]

It has been confirmed that the premiere will be on TV in Jan 23.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5779&Itemid=99

[Rtkat3]

Yea he did talk, he said something like "Nothing personal X-Man" and a little more.

I think we were talking about Fever Pitch. He quoted "Get Away From Me" upon attacking Mercury.

I think Pyro is done by either Liam O'Brien, Nolan North, or Yuri Lowenthal.

[TheVileOne]

I really hope NickToons has the foresight to air episodes 1-3 together.

[Danzigg]

[quote=Ultraman;3056971]It has been confirmed that the premiere will be on TV in Jan 23.

Hopefully the BBC in the UK will pull it's finger out and air them in Jan'09 as well or sell the rights to Nicktoons.

[TheVileOne]

Does Nicktoons come on in the UK?

BBC's handling of the show has been terrible, I don't think they deserve it any longer.

[Mad Hatter]

I think we were talking about Fever Pitch. He quoted "Get Away From Me" upon attacking Mercury.

I think Pyro is done by either Liam O'Brien, Nolan North, or Yuri Lowenthal.

I believe it's Phil LaMarr voicing our favorite firestarter.

[Danzigg]

Does Nicktoons come on in the UK?



BBC's handling of the show has been terrible, I don't think they deserve it any longer.


My sentiments exactly. Give it to Nicktoons

[Rtkat3]

I believe it's Phil LaMarr voicing our favorite firestarter.

Phil LaMarr wasn't listed in the credits and someone claimed to have heard Nolan North as Pyro. Any opinions on Fever Pitch. I can't believe they didn't list the roles in the cast list.

Peter Lurie reprises Sabretooth in "Past Discretions," but I wasn't able to figure out who on the episode's cast voiced Maverick and Christie Nord. Tom Kane voiced Abraham Cornelius and it sounded like he also voiced Professor Thornton.

[TheVileOne]

Kane also plays Cornelius in Hulk Vs. Wolverine.

[Bird Boy]

Marvel News Update includes three new images from the series, including a couple shots of Wolverine's model sheets. Hit the image below for more!


http://marvel.toonzone.net/news/images/t-wolvsmile.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=143)
Click the image for more!

[James Harvey]

On top of the new images mentioned above, we also have the official press release on the announcement of Wolverine and The X-Men's second season. Click here (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=144) to read more.

[bigdeath]

AWESOME. It looks like the shows is staying around for the long term. I love this show. :D

[TheVileOne]

I'm ecstatic to hear the news about season 2.

But I'm just curious. If the show were to say underperform on Nicktoons or do bad on NickToons, what would happen to a second season? Would it still air in other territories first like this season and Marvel would try and find another station?

I mean, not saying it will happen but look what happened to WGH.

Look what BBC did to the show already.

[Scarecrows_Brain]

Since they're already planning a second season, are there any rumors about when DVD/Blu-Ray sets will be released?

sb

[TheVileOne]

Probably not until season 1 finishes airing in the US, or after that.

Though I wonder if Lionsgate will do like single volume releases as well.

[Racattack!Force]

This is a talkback thread for "Wolverine and the X-Men" Gets Second Season" (http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=27425)

I really have to watch the show next year.

[NightwingAngelo]

Yes! Well deserved for such a great show.

[purewitz]

Can't wait for this show to premiere in Jan. 2009. I have always been a fan of the X-Men and especially Wolverine. I do remember the X-Men being on an episode of Spider-man and His Amazing Friends back in the 1980's, but I was like 5 years old when that show was on. So I was more introduced to the X-Men in their own show later in the early 1990's.

[creativerealms]

Nice we are getting a season two. Which means...

An animated version of Age of Apocalypse.

yay.

[Rud]

what i cant wait for is Cable, Sinister already has Cyke and Jean's DNA, Cable and Apocalypse are like mortal enemies if i remember right, he just has to show up, he just has to.

[Spider-Man]

According to the site that shallnot be named, the series will have its Nicktoons premiere on Friday, Jan. 23 with back-to-back episodes from 8-9 p.m. (ET) and will air every Friday at 8 p.m.!

[TheVileOne]

I think we've known about January 23rd for a while.

Considering the first three episodes are the pilot, I agree it's kind of stupid they aren't showing all three together. They are meant to be watched together as like a big event ala the showing at SDCC this year.

[bigdeath]

Nice we are getting a season two. Which means...

An animated version of Age of Apocalypse.

yay.


Oh, yes. Its my favorite X-men storyline finnally being animated. I can't wait.

[capfan1]

This series looks great from the few previews In saw.That alone surpasses that kiddie toon spectacular spiderboy.The theme of the show is more serious and better voice actors than spiderboy's cast.Its about 6 weeks away from premeiring in the U.S.,Can't wait.

[W.C.Reaf]

This series looks great from the few previews In saw.That alone surpasses that kiddie toon spectacular spiderboy.The theme of the show is more serious and better voice actors than spiderboy's cast.

Going to have to wildly disagree with you there. If you're thinking SSM is just kiddie fair then you clearly need to watch the show more.

Anyway both shows are great in their own ways, and they are doing different things that make them so.

[Wonderwall]

This series looks great from the few previews In saw.That alone surpasses that kiddie toon spectacular spiderboy.The theme of the show is more serious and better voice actors than spiderboy's cast.Its about 6 weeks away from premeiring in the U.S.,Can't wait.

That part of your post comes off very ignorant. Designs don't make or break shows, its important sure but you can't just write off a show because it's designs. I like both, but seeing as SSP is more fresh to me I like it more, the voice acting also I believe is much stronger in SSP than in X Men, were some characters don't have the right voice at all. And cute nicknames don't equal clever:shrug:

[batsy2]

That part of your post comes off very ignorant. Designs don't make or break shows, its important sure but you can't just write off a show because it's designs. I like both, but seeing as SSP is more fresh to me I like it more, the voice acting also I believe is much stronger in SSP than in X Men, were some characters don't have the right voice at all. And cute nicknames don't equal clever:shrug:

very well said i agree spectacular spider-man is better great animation, awsome voice acting, cool dersigns and excellent wrtiting i hope it contiunes a few more years to comei went back and watched wovlerine and must agree i don't care for the show that much mostly beacuse of the lack of focus on other x-men

[creativerealms]

This series looks great from the few previews In saw.That alone surpasses that kiddie toon spectacular spiderboy.The theme of the show is more serious and better voice actors than spiderboy's cast.Its about 6 weeks away from premeiring in the U.S.,Can't wait.

One has to wonder how much of Spectacular Spider-man you have seen if your calling the show kiddy. It actually has some real mature plots and sub plots and IMO is more serous then X-men. I guess you must have stopped watching by the Green Goblin arc. Harry's sub story in that arc is about as serous as you can get.

[Hypestyle]

I suppose there may not be much point in asking, but I wonder do any other "hero groups" exist in this animated continuity? :confused:

[bigdeath]

very well said i agree spectacular spider-man is better great animation, awsome voice acting, cool dersigns and excellent wrtiting i hope it contiunes a few more years to comei went back and watched wovlerine and must agree i don't care for the show that much mostly beacuse of the lack of focus on other x-men

I actually like them both and think the both have their own faults.

[Wonderwall]

I suppose there may not be much point in asking, but I wonder do any other "hero groups" exist in this animated continuity? :confused:

The way Greg always puts it. Its the beginning of the Marvel universe's heroes careers. The Fantastic Four have just started and Cap is still frozen. But that's slightly off topic.

[Scarecrows_Brain]

Just saw "eXcessive Force" and it was good, but disappointing. It was like a comic book tale translated to the screen without any passion and it really showed in the lackluster direction - of both the characters and the fight scenes. I have serious reservations about this show, and I'm not even sure about the voice cast. It may have lots of continuity and cameos, but that doesn't make it a good show. It feels a bit empty to me, and the designs aren't as impressive on the screen as they are in the promotional stills.

Re: the "lackluster direction of [] the fight scenes". I liked the fight scenes in "eXcessive Force" myself. Did you find them deficient in this episode or just the series as a whole? I really enjoyed the action scenes with Nick Filippi in the director's chair: "Hindsight Pt 3", "X-Caliber", "Future X", "eXcessive Force" - I don't have a complaint with any of 'em. The fight on the chunk of ice in "Time Bomb" is great too. I think those fight scenes in particular rank up there with SSM and JLU.

What voice cast members do you have reservations about? The only jarring voice for me was Clancy Brown as Mr. Sinister. The faux-British accent on Emma doesn't exactly thrill me, but I can deal with it.

I find this series has an accumulative effect. After the first 12, I can't wait to see the rest.

sb

[ShadowStar]

Re: the "lackluster direction of [] the fight scenes". I liked the fight scenes in "eXcessive Force" myself. Did you find them deficient in this episode or just the series as a whole? I really enjoyed the action scenes with Nick Filippi in the director's chair: "Hindsight Pt 3", "X-Caliber", "Future X", "eXcessive Force" - I don't have a complaint with any of 'em. The fight on the chunk of ice in "Time Bomb" is great too. I think those fight scenes in particular rank up there with SSM and JLU.

What voice cast members do you have reservations about? The only jarring voice for me was Clancy Brown as Mr. Sinister. The faux-British accent on Emma doesn't exactly thrill me, but I can deal with it.

I find this series has an accumulative effect. After the first 12, I can't wait to see the rest.

sb

Really? I think the action is on the level of the better animated B:TAS episodes, but not as good as in SSM or JLU because of how wooden the designs come off. I'm disappointed with the voices for Shadowcat and Jean Grey, among others. None of the casting choices have blown me away yet. Characters like Magneto, Wolverine and Professor X had better voice actors in X-men:TAS/X-men Evolution.

[Scarecrows_Brain]

Really? I think the action is on the level of the better animated B:TAS episodes, but not as good as in SSM or JLU because of how wooden the designs come off.

I'll qualify what I said earlier by adding that I think the best episodes of WatX are as good as the average SSM and JLU. They haven't reached the level of, say, the Spidey vs. the Sinister Six fight, but "eXcessive Force" gives me hope. And the "average" SSM/JLU isn't too bad. The fact that you're disappointed in what I consider one of the best WatX episodes befuddles me.


disappointed with the voices for Shadowcat and Jean Grey, among others. None of the casting choices have blown me away yet. Characters like Magneto, Wolverine and Professor X had better voice actors in X-men:TAS/X-men Evolution.

Oh, just pound that stake into my heart, why don't you! Danielle Judovits as Shadowcat is one of my favorites!

We may have to become mortal enemies now. I never had one of those before...

I loved TAS's voice cast back in the day, but I dunno, sometimes they sound as stiff as the animation when I watch now. Evo and WatX I have very little problem with.

sb

[tedcassidy]

Where is the Juggernaut in all this, and why did I see Cyclops eye beams knock him flying??? Do they have the de-powered Juggernaut from the last few years of the comics in this series??? The Juggernaut shouldn't be affected at all by Cyclops beams!:mad:

[TheVileOne]

Nickelodeon started to show some new promos for the series with quick little interview tidbits with the voice actors including Steven Blum, Nolan North, and Liam O'Brien. Nolan North said he got lasik eye surgery to shoot optic blasts.

[R-Taco]

Has this started airing in the States already?

[TheVileOne]

No.

January 23rd. NickToons will air the first two episodes back to back.

[Jordacar]

Why not the first 3 eps? shmucks :sad:

[TheVileOne]

Eh, it is NickToons.

In their slight defense, YTV didn't even air the first two episodes together. So American audiences have to only wait a week inbetween to watch the pilot instead of 2.

[Wonderwall]

Eh, it is NickToons.

In their slight defense, Teletoons didn't even air the first two episodes together. So American audiences have to only wait a week inbetween to watch the pilot instead of 2.

Teletoon hasn't shown the show. You're thinking of YTV. Im not sure when Teletoon will show it or how they'll show the pilot.

[chator]

Has this started airing in the States already?

It's airing in the BBC starting Jan 4, you should be able to see full length episodes on their website after this date, if you want to get an early start like i plan to.

[ShadowStar]

It's airing in the BBC starting Jan 4, you should be able to see full length episodes on their website after this date, if you want to get an early start like i plan to.

The US gets BBC? Don't you mean the UK?

[chator]

The US gets BBC? Don't you mean the UK?
Yes, i know the BBC is in the U.K., but you should be able to see uploaded full-length episodes of "Wolverine and the X-Men," on the BBC website after Jan.4, no matter what country you are in. I have visited their website and they plan on uploading the episodes.

[creativerealms]

I understand their originals not having a regional lockout but I would think something like Wolverine and the X-men would.

[ShadowStar]

Yes, i know the BBC is in the U.K., but you should be able to see uploaded full-length episodes of "Wolverine and the X-Men," on the BBC website after Jan.4, no matter what country you are in. I have visited their website and they plan on uploading the episodes.

Could you provide a link please? My TV listings aren't showing anything indicating that Wolverine and the X-men will be airing in the forseeable future.

[TheVileOne]

It's hard to trust BBC after they betrayed fans the first time with this show, and delayed it without explanation for 5 months.

[W.C.Reaf]

It's mentioned in actual TV guide sites (http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsServlet?event=10&channelId=482&programmeId=90529364&jspLocation=/jsp/prog_details_fullpage.jsp) and mags that the show will be on Sundays at 8:30am and repeated at 6:35pm on CBBC. So it's not a simple matter of the BBC not delivering since it wasn't mentioned in TV listings 5 months ago.

TheVileOne can you please stop the BBC bashing. You don't even have to deal with them since you're in America. Sure they messed up, but we don't even know why it wasn't shown the first time. Saying they "betrayed fans" is just childish.

[chator]

Could you provide a link please? My TV listings aren't showing anything indicating that Wolverine and the X-men will be airing in the forseeable future.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gnfd6/upcoming

[ShadowStar]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gnfd6/upcoming

Thanks! I'll have to keep an eye out for the show tomorrow, then. I was looking for it under the BBC1 listings the whole time; I had no idea they were gonna show it on CBBC.

[Danzigg]

That's greta can't wait to see this in the UK, it only took 6 months!!!!!!!!!

[TheVileOne]

It's mentioned in actual TV guide sites (http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsServlet?event=10&channelId=482&programmeId=90529364&jspLocation=/jsp/prog_details_fullpage.jsp) and mags that the show will be on Sundays at 8:30am and repeated at 6:35pm on CBBC. So it's not a simple matter of the BBC not delivering since it wasn't mentioned in TV listings 5 months ago.

TheVileOne can you please stop the BBC bashing. You don't even have to deal with them since you're in America. Sure they messed up, but we don't even know why it wasn't shown the first time. Saying they "betrayed fans" is just childish.

W.C. Reaf, I am bashing the BBC because they messed and they NEVER gave an explanation for what happened. Had they said SOMETHING, I would've been more forgiving. But for months and months they did nothing.

The fact of the matter this is a darn excellent show. BBC SQUANDERED it. They were the first ones to pick up the show, and yet they almost the last to debut it. I find that disgusting.

It felt like they were Cartoon Networking/FFWGH'ing the show. And quite frankly I don't appreciate that. This show did so well across the world, that they are already producing a second season. X-men is one of the most popular and well known brands and franchises on the globe, and yet BBC wasted it. I'm sorry, but that's not cool.

No, I don't have to deal with the BBC in the US. But the welfare and continuation of this show greatly concerns me. I care about the future and the viewing audience of this show. I'm very much invested in it. And when I see this show, one of the most fantastic super hero animated shows to come down the pike in years, the first new X-men show in years, the very type of show that people have been begging for years while constantly talking about how they hate all this anime on the airwaves, and BBC just tosses it aside and doesn't say anything -- it infuriates me.

[ShadowStar]

Well, CBBC finally aired "Hindsight part 1" today. I had already seen the first six episodes and the twelfth, but not on TV. The TV viewing made all the difference, really. I enjoyed the episode more than I did the first time around, though I still have reservations about how the episode was handled. For one thing, I didn't like the way the X-men (other than Wolverine and Beast) were given rushed introductions (and treated as already established in the eyes of the viewer), then disposed of.

Obviously, the proper introductions will come later and the whole flashback was meant to be a tease and a hook (not to mention how important it is to focus on Wolverine in the first outing, what with him being the main character). But I can see from this episode (and the ones immediately following it) that we're being robbed of the X-men's origins, and when the cast of characters is so massive, I think it's crucial to introduce them gradually and deal with their origins to make the viewer invest in them, otherwise they'll just feel like background characters until it's their time to shine... I liked the way X-men Evolution devoted time and care to getting the characters off the ground and it's a shame to see that a similar approach hasn't been taken here.

I appreciate that most of the main players need to be in place at the beginning in order to tackle the more mature and complex plots, though. Besides, the gripes I've mentioned above ought to be less of an issue with time. However, there's no overlooking the other flaws I detected: I thought this episode was too slowly paced and a bit dull; it wasn't really that much fun. I just wished the MRD stuff could be put to one side so that the real story (that of the mysterious sudden explosion at the X-mansion) could have had more time devoted to it.

There were a few other issues too (like the voice acting and character designs, which are really hit and miss). I was hoping for a more fun and exciting welcome back to the world of the X-men.


It's mentioned in actual TV guide sites (http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsServlet?event=10&channelId=482&programmeId=90529364&jspLocation=/jsp/prog_details_fullpage.jsp) and mags that the show will be on Sundays at 8:30am and repeated at 6:35pm on CBBC. So it's not a simple matter of the BBC not delivering since it wasn't mentioned in TV listings 5 months ago.


5 months ago? Does the source that gave that information 5 months ago say when new episodes will be airing on CBBC up until? Does it indicate whether we'll get as much as the first half of the season, or the whole season? And I have to ask: How long do the individual episodes remain on the BBC iPlayer for after they air, and is there are any way of saving them so they can be watched over and over? Thanks.

[W.C.Reaf]

5 months ago? Does the source that gave that information 5 months ago say when new episodes will be airing on CBBC up until? Does it indicate whether we'll get as much as the first half of the season, or the whole season? And I have to ask: How long do the individual episodes remain on the BBC iPlayer for after they air, and is there are any way of saving them so they can be watched over and over? Thanks.

It didn't mention any of those. I think it was just when the show was supposed to be airing.

The iPlayer usually has shows for 7 days then they out the new episode in its place. On the iPlayer website there is a feature for downloading, but I've never used it so I don't know what it's like or the quality of it.

[ShadowStar]

It didn't mention any of those. I think it was just when the show was supposed to be airing.

The iPlayer usually has shows for 7 days then they out the new episode in its place. On the iPlayer website there is a feature for downloading, but I've never used it so I don't know what it's like or the quality of it.

OK, thanks. :) I actually tried recording "Hindsight part 1" today while watching it again on the iPlayer, but the quality of the recording was awful so I won't try that again.

Another thing: I don't like the main title theme used for this series. The music and images just bore me...

EDIT - NO! It turns out that BBC are EDITING the episodes! :eek: The bit where Wolverine almost stabs the young girl with his claws was cut from the CBBC airings and it's not on the iPlayer either!

Hope they don't go crazy with future episodes...

[TheVileOne]

http://youbentmywookie.com/news/first-look-at-leaked-wolverine-and-the-x-men-animated-series-action-figures-2899

Action figures, finally!

Leaked photos of the Wolverine and The X-men action figures from Hong Kong. Boo yah!

[Darth_Zilla]

Why are they airing on nicktoons network as oppose to regular nick

[TheVileOne]

Who knows, but it might be part of a plan to push Nicktoons a lot harder.

The ads and promos have been all over Nicktoons lately.

[James Harvey]

Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=170) has received three new images from the upcoming Wolverine and The X-Men animated series. They can be viewed by clicking the thumbnail below.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/wolverinexmen/media/images/t-08.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=170)

The post also contains an update on the Canadian schedule for Wolverine and The X-Men and the recent press release for the Nicktoons Network premiere of the series.

Stay tuned for further updates.

[TheKingofCN]

Is Wolverine and the X-Men going to be coming to the US anytime soon? Im dying to watch it and would rather watch it on my big screen rather than have to fire it up on my laptop, but I guess if thats the only way.....

I hear its awesome and almost as good as the X-men series that aired in the 90's, which was amazing.

[chator]

Is Wolverine and the X-Men going to be coming to the US anytime soon? Im dying to watch it and would rather watch it on my big screen rather than have to fire it up on my laptop, but I guess if thats the only way.....

I hear its awesome and almost as good as the X-men series that aired in the 90's, which was amazing.
It debuts Jan 23rd on Nicktoons http://nicktoonsnetwork.nick.com/shows/wolverine/

[Kagetsu]

Is Wolverine and the X-Men going to be coming to the US anytime soon? Im dying to watch it and would rather watch it on my big screen rather than have to fire it up on my laptop, but I guess if thats the only way.....

I hear its awesome and almost as good as the X-men series that aired in the 90's, which was amazing.
I've seen one episode, out of Canada. To me, it's close to X-Evo both in story and animation design. except for two missing characters.

[Ioz]

Why are they airing on nicktoons network as oppose to regular nickI don't get Nicktoons in my DirecTV package and I don't really want to bump up my cable bill for the bigger package, so I find this annoying.