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Shawn Hopkins
08-26-2008, 10:36 AM
So, I was just reading David Sedaris' Naked and laughing at "A Plague of Tics," an essay in which he describes in hilarious detail the obsessive behavior that governed his life when he was a child, from his compulsion to lick lightswitches to his need to constantly shake his head, roll his eyes and make strange high pitched noises. It reminded me of a little of an excerpt I saw of a comic called "Fun Home" by Alison Bechdel, which also contains a girl whose life is ruled by compulsive rituals.

These things really strike a chord with me because I grew up doing something similar. I don't believe in diagnosing one's self with a psychiactric disorder so I'm not going to claim to have had OCD because I never went to a doctor, but there was definitely something wrong in my head.

It didn't really mainifest itself in touching things. I mean, I did have to compulsively touch things sometimes and you would have noticed if you watched me, but it wasn't that extreme. And you might see me check the stove or something a few more times than normal once in a while and I got briefly obsessed with cleaning my ears, but otherwise there weren't a lot of outward symptoms. Well, I did insist on dressing oddly, only wearing IIRC black slacks and not jeans.

But inside my head, it was a living hell. I simply couldn't think straight because of an overwhelming sense that something terrible would happen and the only way to stave it off was a series of increasingly more complex mental rituals, which I thought of as "my words," to ward away everything from something bad happening to a member of my family to me accidentally slipping up and selling my soul. Sometimes these would play on a constant loop in my head and sometimes I would be forced to whisper them sometimes or they would be ineffective.

I loved to read, but even that became a nightmare eventually, because I found that I always had to go back and read and reread every sentence several times, sounding out the punctuation. Sometimes I thought I was going crazy.

I didn't even know other people did things like this until I read an article in a magazine about an OCD girl who flipped out on her parents because she had to have a movie rewound to see a name in the credits. That was one of my things. Finding out that people would consider what was wrong with me a psychiatric disease scared me more than comforted me, though, and I didn't tell anybody about it for fear of being put on medication.

I don't know why I stopped doing it. I think my innate and overpowering laziness played a big role, because the litany was so time consuming that eventually I was able to consolidate it down into shorter and shorter phrases until I didn't need to think/say them at all anymore. I still do have the odd compulsion, but I find I can choose not to act on them and it won't kill me. And I do think some of my behavior is compulsive. The way I watch DVDs involves a lot of rewinding and listening to certain phrases over and over again and no tolerance for missing even the tiniest bit of dialogue, which I admit is kind of weird.

So did anyone else have to grapple with compulsive behaviors, either growing up or later in life? Describe them and the impact they had on your life, in detail if you can because that makes for a more interesting story.

Zebi
08-26-2008, 01:06 PM
For the purposes of this discussion, I think that Wikipedia's article on OCD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive-compulsive_disorder) is a good start, as it lists the diagnostic criteria from the DSM-IV-TR. I wouldn't say that I have OCD, but I do engage in some ritualistic and compulsive behaviours ... however, unlike the diagnostic criteria, I do not consider those behaviours to be intrusive or unwanted. One example would be my need to have things in even numbers ... if I take candies from a dish, I prefer to take them in pairs or other even numbers. It doesn't cause me distress, but it's just a quirk of mine. I can also be obsessive and do fixate on certain things (hyperfocusing, even) - my fandoms, for instance.

I would say that those quirks are a part of my Asperger's. Just in case you are wondering, I was diagnosed by a doctor (psychologist) in June of this year. I also display some of the traits associated with ADHD inattentive type (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADHD_predominantly_inattentive), but the doctor felt that in my case, those traits were also part of the Asperger's diagnostic criteria.

Because all of this has come to my attention in the last year or so, I'm still learning what I can about it, and learning ways to deal with my behaviours. One thing I've done, to help with the anxiety and depression issues, is to start attending an Emotions Anonymous (http://www.emotionsanonymous.org) support group - I actually started going a couple of weeks ago! I'm also getting in touch with local autism groups to see what supports are available for adults on the spectrum, and to see what they'd recommend in my case.

XOMiss_Samantha
08-26-2008, 01:20 PM
First off, I love Naked by David Sedaris. It's one of my favorite books of all time.

His chapter on compulsive tics also hit me pretty well because I suffered a similar fate. While I no longer have any of the obsessive behaviors I once did, as a child I would constantly smell things, slowly clench my hands, and do everything 4 times. If I hit my head on the wall, I would have to hit it 3 more times before I could accomplish anything else. I think it's just something that alot of children go through before puberty [I'm guessing] while some cases carry on into adulthood. I know that my mom used to get angry at my '4 times' routine because it would interrupt my daily schedule and drives me crazy until I touched or hit or slammed into what ever it was my mind was making me. The same with always slowly clenching my hands. It wasn't like I was making a tight fist, but rather simply feeling the warmth inside my palm.
Eventually, and thankfully, that kind of thing wore off and I no longer have such tics, although every now and then I'll have the overwhelming emotion to check something or make sure something is shut off.


I loved to read, but even that became a nightmare eventually, because I found that I always had to go back and read and reread every sentence several times, sounding out the punctuation. Sometimes I thought I was going crazy. Lord I did that too, although it didn't hit a degree where I couldn't help it/ was going crazy. Sometimes I'd fine myself flipping back and checking page numbers because I always had a feeling I was missing something, or when reading manga I needed to reread the page before I could eventually move on.

SSJPabs
08-26-2008, 01:35 PM
Hmm, I had a few compulsive like behaviors as a child but I think one I most remember was that I had to touch something an even number of times with alternating hands (left-right, left-right), something like say, a doorknob. There was no set number so sometimes I just keep doing it left-right over and over, though it was never more than 5 minutes. I forced myself to stop doing it and eventually I lost any compulsion to do it. The only remnant and to be honest I am not sure if this is a compulsion or just a cultural aversion taken to an extreme, is that I will not stop on 13 or a multiple of 13 for anything. If I set the stove I'll set it for 12 minutes or 14, if I jog I will never stop after 26 minutes, or read 13 pages in a book or whatever. I'll always stop early or read that extra page.

I don't feel anxiety or anything about it, and it's really not an inconvenience--plus I can now do the multiplication table for 13 in my head up pretty high. :D

sun
08-27-2008, 10:59 AM
and you experience this behavior, seek out a professional.

Temple Fugate
08-28-2008, 02:22 AM
But inside my head, it was a living hell. I simply couldn't think straight because of an overwhelming sense that something terrible would happen and the only way to stave it off was a series of increasingly more complex mental rituals, which I thought of as "my words," to ward away everything from something bad happening to a member of my family to me accidentally slipping up and selling my soul. Sometimes these would play on a constant loop in my head and sometimes I would be forced to whisper them sometimes or they would be ineffective.That reminds me of an episode of The Outer Limits (1995) where Malcom McDowell had a series of hand gestures, almost like sign language, that he had to repeat over and over to keep the world in order. One gesture would keep airplanes in the air, for example. A doctor tries to get him to stop, and eventually succeeds. Then all hell breaks loose and the doctor has to start making the gestures himself.

I had a few habbits in my childhood. Some are too complicated to properly explain, but for example, one involved smooth-surfaced things like dice and computer keys and rubbing my fingers on them just so that the oil on my hand left no visible prints and the streaks they made on the smooth surfaces were perfectly straight. God forbid I leave spots or fingerprints on them.

A few years ago, I had a temporary obsession about turning around. If I had to turn my whole body to get something or do something, I had to turn back around in reverse. I couldn't pivot a total of 360 degrees. If I turned in the same direction over and over and over, I was concerned about becoming "wound too tightly". Funny thing is, I told this to a friend of mine who was clinically diagnosed with OCD, and he stared at me and said "Wow...that is really weird, man." :anime:

Master Moron
08-28-2008, 02:35 AM
I probably wash my hands about 30 times a day. But, that's mainly just because I like keeping my stuff clean. I hate it when people touch my remote control with dirty hands.

Nel
08-28-2008, 02:40 AM
When I was younger, everything had to be symmetrical. If I had an itch on one side of my body, say my arm, and scratched it, I'd have to scratch the same area on my other arm. Rub one eye, then the other one would have to be rubbed too. And it'd have to be done on each side an equal number of times. I used to refuse to wearing a seatbelt as a kid because the way it went across my body wasn't "symmetrical", if you know what I mean.

I've, for the most part, grown out of it now, but catch myself doing it in little instances every now and then.