View Full Version : Hanah Montanah being over exposed?
RonDrakenfan17
07-24-2008, 12:24 PM
Any one else seeing this? She's been put on every thing latley. Once upon a time I was a fan of her and her show but am finding her to over exposed and way over rated. I do like the theme song of Hanah Montanah though, good song indeed.
Movie06
07-24-2008, 02:08 PM
A fad being over exposed is always the downfall of a fad.
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 02:10 PM
Just ignore it and it will go away eventually.
veemonjosh
07-24-2008, 02:12 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HOgj2etJs3Y
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 02:13 PM
2013 huh? That's still at least 4 years too long.
TKnHappyNess
07-24-2008, 02:25 PM
Just ignore it and it will go away eventually.
Tell that to all those morons who still watch Chris Crocker's videos.
BonyT
07-24-2008, 02:31 PM
Well, look at the bright side: At least this isn't the more controversial variety of "overexposure" people were talking about in connection with her a few months ago.
RonDrakenfan17
07-24-2008, 02:32 PM
Just ignore it and it will go away eventually.
I want to, but she's like Sponge Bob Sqare pants, on every thing and plays all the time blah. I even see her on things in stores, she's even in my nightmares :(
edit;
Just kidding about the whole nightmare thingXD
Tobias
07-24-2008, 02:43 PM
It wouldn't be so bad if she were actually the most interesting character on the show, but I just don't care for Hannah/Miley. Personally I like Jackson and Rico's characters more.
Silverstar
07-24-2008, 02:44 PM
Honestly, saying that Hannah Montana is overexposed is like pointing out that cotton candy has sugar in it.
Kazuya Prower
07-24-2008, 02:52 PM
Sometimes I fear she and the High School Musical series will overthrow Mickey Mouse, the character that made Disney where it is today.
Peter Paltridge
07-24-2008, 03:18 PM
Don't worry about that. Once her fanbase grows out of their target demographic, Disney will be pretending Hannah never existed.
Nexonius
07-24-2008, 03:27 PM
Like Lizzie.
Novapocalypse
07-24-2008, 03:33 PM
I'm just annoyed at the franchise. It may be because I have an 11 year old sister who's obsessed with the friggin' franchise. The day "Hanna Montana" at least loses half the steam she has today will be the day I celebrate. I don't necessarily want it to end or die out, I just agree that it's overratted and over exposed.
Movie06
07-24-2008, 03:45 PM
I'm just annoyed at the franchise. It may be because I have an 11 year old sister who's obsessed with the friggin' franchise. The day "Hanna Montana" at least loses half the steam she has today will be the day I celebrate. I don't necessarily want it to end or die out, I just agree that it's overratted and over exposed.
Ah, same here. I'll be celebrating the death of the Hannah Montana fad. Actually, I intend to start that by listening to Street Fighting Man by The Rolling Stones. (Sorry, for the randomness, couldn't help it.)
RonDrakenfan17
07-24-2008, 04:15 PM
It wouldn't be so bad if she were actually the most interesting character on the show, but I just don't care for Hannah/Miley. Personally I like Jackson and Rico's characters more.
I feel Hanah's character has grown into a selfish brat on the show. All she does is whine about not getting her way, but that's a whole nother topic. Jacksons my favorite character on the show and Olvier but alas the two male characters get shoved a side or bashed :(
I'd love it if they did some sort of a spin off of them going to the same college some how.
LOL At Hanah over throwing Mickey. It could happen some day, golden statue at DisneyLand where Mickey Mouse used to be, good Lord no!!
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 04:15 PM
Why do people have such a hard time dealing with this? Really, this fad isn't that hard to ignore. Let it go people, this fad will burn itself out eventually...and then another tween fad will show up that everyone here will complain about. ;) It's a never-ending cycle.
Yeah it's annoying, but it's not that hard to ignore if you try hard enough. And no, Hannah Montana is not going to replace Mickey Mouse. Don't be silly guys.
Movie06
07-24-2008, 04:17 PM
Why do people have such a hard time dealing with this? Really, this fad isn't that hard to ignore. Let it go people, this fad will burn itself out eventually...and then another tween fad will show up that everyone here will complain about. ;) It's a never-ending cycle.
Yeah it's annoying, but it's not that hard to ignore if you try hard enough.
I try to ignore it but the problem is, it's everywhere. I mean, recently there's some news about Miley realising some birds into the wild. But hopefully, the movie won't do well and that it would be a sure sign of the fad dying especially since the movie is competiting against the upcoming Wolverine movie. (Yes, both movies are on the same date.)
RonDrakenfan17
07-24-2008, 04:17 PM
Why do people have such a hard time dealing with this? Really, this fad isn't that hard to ignore. Let it go people, this fad will burn itself out eventually...and then another tween fad will show up that everyone here will complain about. ;) It's a never-ending cycle.
Yeah it's annoying, but it's not that hard to ignore if you try hard enough.
I know its a fad that will some day go out like a light but its kind of hard for me to ignore this becuase they show promos of Hanah stuff on TV and in thetares and in stores. I'm going crazy with this LOL. I'm with the other people in saying they'd celebrate once the fad fades.
Edit;
Amazing that the Disney people had the gutts to have Hanah Montanah compete with the Wolverine movie.
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 04:24 PM
Amazing that the Disney people had the gutts to have Hanah Montanah compete with the Wolverine movie.
I have to wonder sometimes...
Believe me, as long as Hannah Montana is still popular the movie is going to make money regardless of what it's up against on opening weekend, Wolverine or not. I'm almost positive of that. If anything, it's Marvel who should be worried, not Disney.
Movie06
07-24-2008, 04:27 PM
Actually, funny enough, this isn't the first time it happened. The Lizzie McGuire was released on the same date as X-Men 2 and X-Men came out on top making more money than Lizzie. This will probably be no different with Wolverine and Hannah Montana.
Master Toon
07-24-2008, 04:31 PM
Any one else seeing this? She's been put on every thing latley. Once upon a time I was a fan of her and her show but am finding her to over exposed and way over rated. I do like the theme song of Hanah Montanah though, good song indeed.
True but I hope you're not getting mad at Miley Cyrus for it. She's not the fans and she's not the tabloids. If she is over exposed, that's society's fault, not hers.
Sometimes I fear she and the High School Musical series will overthrow Mickey Mouse, the character that made Disney where it is today.
You're overreacting a little bit aren't you? Hannah Montana and High School Musical can't last forever, Disney will eventually move on to new franchises. Take a look at Lizzie McGuire and Even Stevens, they were once among Disney's elite but they didn't take over the company or channel did they?
Of course if you mean kids will prefer them over Mickey then, yes they will. No offense to anyone here but Mickey IS the face of Disney but the newer generation doesn't have to love him. Just like me, I don't really like many classic cartoons anymore and just because they were among the first and (to some) the best, doesn't change the way I feel. I'm sorry if that upsets anyone.
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 04:33 PM
Actually, funny enough, this isn't the first time it happened. The Lizzie McGuire was released on the same date as X-Men 2 and X-Men came out on top making more money than Lizzie. This will probably be no different with Wolverine and Hannah Montana.
Here's the thing...
Seems to me that this Hannah Montana thing is much, much more popular than Lizzie McGuire ever was. Additionally, your talking about X-Man 2. Wasn't X-Men 3 not really well received compared to the first two? It's really possible (perhaps likely) that this Hannah Montana movie might cream Wolverine if the fad continues to stay strong. Didn't the theatrical release of the live show make a lot of dough?
Movie06
07-24-2008, 04:37 PM
Here's the thing...
Seems to me that this Hannah Montana thing is much, much more popular than Lizzie McGuire ever was. Additionally, your talking about X-Man 2. Wasn't X-Men 3 not really well received compared to the first two? It's really possible (perhaps likely) that this Hannah Montana movie might cream Wolverine if the fad continues to stay strong. Didn't the theatrical release of the live show make a lot of dough?
Wolverine has a larger audience than Hannah Montana's. Wolverine has boys, fathers, teenagers, college guys, dates, internet geeks, comic book guys, YouTubers, deviantArt members and us (Toon Zone forum members).
Hannah Montana just has mothers and little girls. It's little compared to Wolverine's audience.
Zorak Masaki
07-24-2008, 04:38 PM
Here's the thing...
Seems to me that this Hannah Montana thing is much, much more popular than Lizzie McGuire ever was. Additionally, your talking about X-Man 2. Wasn't X-Men 3 not really well received compared to the first two? It's really possible (perhaps likely) that this Hannah Montana movie might cream Wolverine if the fad continues to stay strong. Didn't the theatrical release of the live show make a lot of dough?
X-men fans have nothing to worry about, wolverine and Hannah Montana are two different demographics. The boys, comic fans, and teens (and possibly their parents) are going to see Wolverine, while the girls (and their parents) will be seeing HM. And the demographic for wolverine is also much larger.
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 04:39 PM
Wolverine has a larger audience than Hannah Montana's. Wolverine has boys, fathers, teenagers, college guys, dates, internet geeks, comic book guys, YouTubers, deviantArt members and us (Toon Zone forum member).
Hannah Montana just has mothers and little girls. It's little compared to Wolverine's audience.
Yeah, and people said the Sex and the City movie wasn't going to make any movie either. So go fig.
I know you hate Hannah Montana with a seething passion, but it's within the realm of possibility that this movie might make some big bucks. I'm actually positive it will as well as the fad holds out.
Movie06
07-24-2008, 04:40 PM
Yeah, and people said the Sex and the City movie wasn't going to make any movie either. so go fig.
But Sex and the City isn't a Disney movie.
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 04:42 PM
But Sex and the City isn't a Disney movie.
No it wasn't. So the Hannah Montana movie will probably make even more money with Disney's marketing power and synergy behind it.
Kazuya Prower
07-24-2008, 04:45 PM
I'll cry in sadness if the Hannah Montana movie outsells previous Disney movies.
Master Toon
07-24-2008, 04:45 PM
But Sex and the City isn't a Disney movie.
When the Sex and the City movie was announced, people said that a mostly female audience would not bring in enough money.
Movie06
07-24-2008, 04:47 PM
No it wasn't. So the Hannah Montana movie will probably make even more money with Disney's marketing power and synergy behind it.
But again, Wolverine has the larger audience. No matter how much marketing Disney is going to make, it's not going to destroy Wolverine at the box office. Wolverine will probably make more money than Hannah Montana.
I mean, Lizzie McGuire only made $42 million in the U.S. while X-Men 2 made $214 million in the U.S.
See?
And about Sex and the City, it's a movie version of the show on HBO, of course people would see it. They'll see any tv show turned into a movie.
RonDrakenfan17
07-24-2008, 04:47 PM
I'll cry in sadness if the Hannah Montana movie outsells previous Disney movies.
I'll cry in sadness if out does the Wolverine movie, that shouldn't even be allowed to happen :(
I guess its not Hanahs fault, its still annoying though IMO.
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 04:49 PM
When the Sex and the City movie was announced, people said that a mostly female audience would not bring in enough money.
And it did very, very well.
Hannah Montana has a big enough fanbase to make a theatrical movie insanely successful. The live show did very well in theaters despite being a limited engagement so one can only imagine how big an actual made-for-theaters film will be. And I'm sure it's going to be huge, no matter much Disney/HM haters wish it wasn't. Disney doesn't even have to promote it much, since it already has a built-in, rabid fan base who are going to eat it up. but they probably will promote it up the wazoo. And it will make craploads of cash. Again, provided the fad is still as hot as it is now.
But again, Wolverine has the larger audience. No matter how much marketing Disney is going to make, it's not going to destroy Wolverine at the box office. Wolverine will probably make more money than Hannah Montana.
Says the person who hates just about everything Disney stands for. How can you make a non-biased prediction when we all know how much you detest the Walt Disney Company.
I mean, Lizzie McGuire only made $42 million in the U.S. while X-Men 2 made $214 million in the U.S.Again, Hannah Montana is much, much, much more popular than Lizzie McGuire would have ever hoped to be.
And about Sex and the City, it's a movie version of the show on HBO, of course people would see it. They'll see any tv show turned into a movie.Seriously, what are you talking about? That doesn't really do anything to help or further your argument since you could say the same thing about HM/Disney Channel fans.
Movie06
07-24-2008, 04:50 PM
And it did very, very well.
Hannah Montana has a big enough fanbase to make a theatrical movie insanely successful. The live show did very well in theaters despite being a limited engagement so one can only imagine how big an actual made-for-theaters film will be. And I'm sure it's going to be huge, no matter much Disney/HM haters wish it wasn't. Disney doesn't even have to promote it much, since it already has a built-in, rabid fan base who are going to eat it up. but they probably will promote it up the wazoo. And it will make craploads of cash. Again, provided the fad is still as hot as it is now.
HM is not going to be hot when it goes head to head with Wolverine. I just provided an example as to how it won't be possible for HM to win.
And the only reason, the live show did so well is because that it was released during the Super Bowl and they didn't want to see their husbands and sons limiting themselves to football games and groaning the words "Just look at them, have they no shame?"
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 05:05 PM
HM is not going to be hot when it goes head to head with Wolverine. I just provided an example as to how it won't be possible for HM to win.
Well how about this? Lets just wait and see. Perhaps MH won't beat Wolverine financially but I'm pretty sure it will make a good chunk of change. It will be successful, I'm positive of that.
And the only reason, the live show did so well is because that it was released during the Super Bowl and they didn't want to see their husbands and sons limiting themselves to football games and groaning the words "Just look at them, have they no shame?"What??!! I highly, highly doubt that was the reason why the movie made tons of cash. In fact, I'm positive that's not the reason. The Hannah Montana fad is bigger than any kids/tween in a long, long time. That's all there is to it. It has nothing to do with the Super Bowl. You lost me completely there. :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
Booncy
07-24-2008, 05:38 PM
Was "That's So Raven" ever on the same level of popularity as HM. I know for a fact that it was more popular than Lizzie McGuire, but I'm not quite sure if it was ever more popular than Hanna Montana's show?
Also I sorta find it weird that no one has even mentioned "That's So Raven" period on here considering that that show was more popular than Lizzie McGuire, was a fad, and had an extremely huge fanbase.
Booncy
07-24-2008, 05:40 PM
I wonder if Hilary Duff is jealous of Miley Cyrus for getting more attention from Disney & the media for HM than she ever received for Lizzie?
DarthGonzo
07-24-2008, 05:40 PM
Was "That's So Raven" ever on the same level of popularity as HM. I know for a fact that it was more popular than Lizzie McGuire, but I'm not quite sure if it was ever more popular than Hanna Montana's show?
No, I don't believe it ever was.
Blackstar
07-24-2008, 05:41 PM
Was "That's So Raven" ever on the same level of popularity as HM. I know for a fact that it was more popular than Lizzie McGuire, but I'm not quite sure if it was ever more popular than Hanna Montana's show?
Also I sorta find it weird that no one has even mentioned "That's So Raven" period on here considering that that show was more popular than Lizzie McGuire, was a fad, and had an extremely huge fanbase.
That's So Raven was popular, but that shows' popularity was nowhere near Hanna Montana's level, as far as I know.
Michael24
07-24-2008, 05:53 PM
I think it's safe to say that Hannah Montana is the most popular show to ever come out of Disney Channel. I wish Disney had pushed Even Stevens even just half as much as they're pushing HM. :shrug:
I wonder how many episodes of the show will last seeing 65 is the deadline now and if ratings slip I guess 65 episodes would be good but if the show stays on top between 78-100 episodes of HM should produced and then end it and yea MIley cyrus is getting used up too much today
RonDrakenfan17
07-24-2008, 07:48 PM
I think it's safe to say that Hannah Montana is the most popular show to ever come out of Disney Channel. I wish Disney had pushed Even Stevens even just half as much as they're pushing HM. :shrug:
Really? I could have sworn Ravens show was pretty popular :confused:
Raven was just as annoying as Hanah Monatanah was back when her show was on. So hopefully the same thing will happen to Hanaha :D
Tobias
07-24-2008, 08:04 PM
Really? I could have sworn Ravens show was pretty popular :confused:
Raven was just as annoying as Hanah Monatanah was back when her show was on. So hopefully the same thing will happen to Hanaha :D
Raven was popular, yes, but not to the extreme level Hannah is. Raven, Zack & Cody, Lizzie Maguire all did extremely well for themselves, but Hannah's pretty much the cornerstone of the Disney empire. Once that fad dies out, The House of Mouse is going to have to scramble to find a replacement, which is why they're pushing Selena Gomez and the Jonas Bros. currently.
Master Toon
07-24-2008, 08:29 PM
Was "That's So Raven" ever on the same level of popularity as HM. I know for a fact that it was more popular than Lizzie McGuire, but I'm not quite sure if it was ever more popular than Hanna Montana's show?
Also I sorta find it weird that no one has even mentioned "That's So Raven" period on here considering that that show was more popular than Lizzie McGuire, was a fad, and had an extremely huge fanbase.
How come everyone is referring to these shows as fads? Am I miss something here? :sweat:
I think it's safe to say that Hannah Montana is the most popular show to ever come out of Disney Channel. I wish Disney had pushed Even Stevens even just half as much as they're pushing HM. :shrug:
Hannah Montana isn't half the show Even Stevens was, no offense to any Hannah fans out there. (I'm one too. ;))
Really? I could have sworn Ravens show was pretty popular :confused:
Raven was just as annoying as Hanah Monatanah was back when her show was on. So hopefully the same thing will happen to Hanaha :D
That's So Raven had way better writing and acting than Hannah Montana ever will.
I have to ask you something RonDrakenfan17. You say you like the show yet some of your post lead me to believe that you don't like it, what's up with that? :confused:
Light Lucario
07-24-2008, 09:36 PM
It's interesting to see how so many people are getting worked up over a fad from Disney. Of course HM is being over exposed. It is so popular and in my opinion overrated that its ridiculous. I honestly don't see any reason to get worked up over it. The fad will die down once the target audience grows out of it or when Miley Cyrus grows out of the cute appeal that Disney uses for all of their Disney Channel stars. I also agree that you could easily ignore it. I certainly do and all it takes is to simply go on on with what you usually do. It's not that hard at all.
GuardianKid13
07-24-2008, 09:46 PM
I wonder how many episodes of the show will last seeing 65 is the deadline now and if ratings slip I guess 65 episodes would be good but if the show stays on top between 78-100 episodes of HM should produced and then end it and yea MIley cyrus is getting used up too much today
The 65 episode deadline hasn't been a rule for a lonnnngg time now, most Disney shows either pass 65 episodes (Hannah, Suite Life, Raven, Kim Possible, etc.) or they get cancelled before that (Phil, American Dragon, etc.). I also doubt the show will go pass a 3rd season not because of HM losing popularity or because of decreasing ratings but because Miley wants to be known as a real artist not just as Hannah Montana (she even even said the latter in an interview with E! news).
And as for the Hannah Montana movie versus Wolverine's movie? Wow, as much as Wolverine is popular (in many ways); Hannah is...I don't know; we just have to wait and see..
Michael24
07-24-2008, 09:54 PM
Hannah Montana isn't half the show Even Stevens was, no offense to any Hannah fans out there. (I'm one too. ;))
I am in total agreement. It's a shame we'll never get Even Stevens on DVD, though thankfully I have all but one single episode on tape, and in order. (Thanks for that great "start to finish" airing in 2003, Disney. :D )
Blackstar
07-24-2008, 10:43 PM
That's So Raven had way better writing and acting than Hannah Montana ever will.
Which show is/was the superior animal is strictly a matter of opinion (I've only seen a few episodes of That's So Raven and I still have not seen a single episode of Hanna Montana, so I really can't compare the 2), however, the fact is regardless whether or not HM's writing is inferior to that of TSR, the fact remains that Hanna Montana is currently HUGE and the popularity of That's So Raven, big as it may have been, does not even come close to achieving HM's level of popularity.
MegaJ
07-24-2008, 11:02 PM
I wonder if Hilary Duff is jealous of Miley Cyrus for getting more attention from Disney & the media for HM than she ever received for Lizzie?
That's because Hillary Duff left Disney (very dumb decision) to try to strike it out on her own, and she failed. The power of Disney is a...powerful thing.
The House of Mouse is going to have to scramble to find a replacement, which is why they're pushing Selena Gomez and the Jonas Bros. currently.
Don't forget Demi Lovato, who's enjoying a nice promotional push.
The Hannah Montana craze makes me thankful Nickelodeon doesn't push their young stars as hard as Disney does into the mainstream.
Tay the Cat
07-24-2008, 11:17 PM
That's because Hillary Duff left Disney (very dumb decision) to try to strike it out on her own, and she failed. The power of Disney is a...powerful thing.
She didn't fail.
The only reason nobody talks about her anymore is because she DIDN'T screw herself up like Lindsay Lohan did.
defunctzombie
07-24-2008, 11:21 PM
This whole thing reminds me of the Spice Girls. I had dolls, posters, necklaces, clothes, the tapes, and the movie. My niece has all of that in Hannah Montana (even her bday party was Hannah Montana). She used to watch it all the time but now I only see her watch that channel when Pokemon or Total Drama Island isn't on. Too much and they get sick of it. So I think the downfall is coming sooner than it seems.
That's because Hillary Duff left Disney (very dumb decision) to try to strike it out on her own, and she failed. The power of Disney is a...powerful thing.I lol'd.
Duff didnt fail, and I suppose we should also ask Shia Labeouf about his decision to leave Disney and if that was a dumb choice.
You know seriously whats up with all the nerd rage going on here. Most of us are in our 20's at least (I know the OP is), so I dont understad why any of us would be bothered by HM? It so very easy to ignore, unless some of you are watching disney 24/7 or somehow associated with something that forces you to see her face....
As for the question of is she being overexposed? Uh yeah, talk about the understatment of the of the decade. Disney is doing there best to milk the hell of out of her. Every single one of us would be doing the same thing.
Michael24
07-25-2008, 01:38 AM
She didn't fail.
The only reason nobody talks about her anymore is because she DIDN'T screw herself up like Lindsay Lohan did.
Likely true. Breaking away from Disney was the best move for her, allowing her to strike out on her own. She's been in lots of movies (maybe not hits, but at least she's working steadily), and she's done fairly well with her music. Her Dignity album was pretty solid, IMO, and she tours a lot, too.
Tobias
07-25-2008, 05:30 AM
The Hannah Montana craze makes me thankful Nickelodeon doesn't push their young stars as hard as Disney does into the mainstream.
Judging by what Drake & Josh are doing film wise these days, I'm sure the Nick execs are glad they didn't push them as hard as Disney's pimping HM. But you bring up a good point. Nick hasn't actively pushed any of it's stars out there since Kenan & Kel, and even that was a mild push into the spotlight.
You'd think Nick would have taken more advantage of it's live actions series stars a bit more. Outside of Miranda Cosgrove and the Naked Bros. Band, I don't think I've seen Nick pushing any of it's stars beyond the basic ads and a few products here and there.
Hanshotfirst113
07-25-2008, 10:14 AM
Yeah, she's not my cup of tea and I'm getting tired of seeing her face plastered all over every product that I ring up at work, but hey, what can you do? Bigger things to worry about. She seems very popular, and it'll probably continue for a while.
peterg14
07-25-2008, 11:00 AM
You'd think Nick would have taken more advantage of it's live actions series stars a bit more. Outside of Miranda Cosgrove and the Naked Bros. Band, I don't think I've seen Nick pushing any of it's stars beyond the basic ads and a few products here and there.
That's because Spongebob, a cartoon, is still their big money maker. I don't think D&J, ICarly, Ned, or even NBB get as good ratings and make as much money as Spongebob does. They also realize that ridding off the backs of teenagers has its downside. Miranda Cosgrove and the ICarly cast will grow up, and will be too old to market to the tween crowd. But with Spongebob, he'll never get old and they can milk him forever.
tb4000
07-25-2008, 01:29 PM
Their job is basically to keep these things on an assembly line. When your current ones get too old and less cute, time to ramp up the next ones in line.
Antiyonder
07-25-2008, 03:52 PM
Actually, funny enough, this isn't the first time it happened. The Lizzie McGuire was released on the same date as X-Men 2 and X-Men came out on top making more money than Lizzie. This will probably be no different with Wolverine and Hannah Montana.
Which isn't really a contest. I mean, a guy with claws in his hands and a mysterious past vs a girl who poorly represents blond girls.
You're overreacting a little bit aren't you? Hannah Montana and High School Musical can't last forever, Disney will eventually move on to new franchises. Take a look at Lizzie McGuire and Even Stevens, they were once among Disney's elite but they didn't take over the company or channel did they?
Just look at the recent usage of Mickey Mouse. He went from being treated as a family friendly character to an animated babysitter. And as mentioned with a recent post concerning Spongebob, a cartoon character does have longer lifespan and in the long run would bring more success than a quick fix. Thus why I'm surprised that they don't do a little more than making a Mickey Mouse preschool show.
Nygma
07-25-2008, 11:26 PM
I'll cry in sadness if the Hannah Montana movie outsells previous Disney movies.
If HM draws more numbers than Wolverine, I will break every single one of my teeth then get dentures.
Note: The only reason I would make such a bet, is because I know it would never happen.
And as for the Hannah Montana movie versus Wolverine's movie? Wow, as much as Wolverine is popular (in many ways); Hannah is...I don't know; we just have to wait and see..
To quote Booker T: "Tell me you didn't just say that."
Which isn't really a contest. I mean, a guy with claws in his hands and a mysterious past vs a girl who poorly represents blond girls.
WORD!:D and to paraphrase Harley Quinn, "Well the jokes on them, she's not even a real blonde.":harley: (Not sure why I went there, I just did).
Really it's ridiculous to think Hannah Montana even has a chance against a Wolverine movie.
A Wolverine movie would cover alot more in the demographs numbers wise; where Hannah Montana is aimed mostly at girls in their pre-teens to early teens.
There's a huge difference margin wise between the two.
RonDrakenfan17
07-25-2008, 11:36 PM
I have to ask you something RonDrakenfan17. You say you like the show yet some of your post lead me to believe that you don't like it, what's up with that? :confused:
I said I was once upon a time a fan of the show, I began to loose intrest in it once she became way to over exposed. I'm just getting annoyed is all. And your a fan of That's so Raven eh? Cool, respect that.
Edit;
Yah I guess Selena Gomez is getting a little shoved into our faces too blah.
Movie06
07-25-2008, 11:58 PM
Really it's ridiculous to think Hannah Montana even has a chance against a Wolverine movie.
A Wolverine movie would cover alot more in the demographs numbers wise; where Hannah Montana is aimed mostly at girls in their pre-teens to early teens.
Exactly what I've been saying, thank you.
reddiOx
07-26-2008, 12:09 AM
Really it's ridiculous to think Hannah Montana even has a chance against a Wolverine movie.
A Wolverine movie would cover alot more in the demographs numbers wise; where Hannah Montana is aimed mostly at girls in their pre-teens to early teens.
There's a huge difference margin wise between the two.
Obvious, but brilliant. I don't understand how no one else caught this.
Hannah Montana has a very specific demographic - girls between the ages of 9 and 12. Anyone beyond that demographic would most likely not see the movie. Wolverine has a demographic including pre-teen boys, teenagers, and even guys in their twenties. No contest.
Movie06
07-26-2008, 12:14 AM
Obvious, but brilliant. I don't understand how no one else caught this.
I did. (Sorry, just pointing that out.)
Booncy
07-26-2008, 12:15 AM
I dunno about Wolverine beating out Hanna Montana: The Movie. If this question were asked to me BEFORE May 2008 then I would've said 100% without a doubt in my mind that the Wolverine movie would easily destroy the Hanna Montana movie next year in theaters. But then in May 2008 the Sex and the City movie came out, and that totally destroyed the 4th Indiana Jones movie due to it's success and figures on opening weekend (which no one ever expected to happen), so you never know...
Like Hanna Montana, Sex and the City only had one target demographic audience (well two if you count gay men), and that movie proved to be very successful over Indiana Jones, so don't just automatically assume that just because a movie is targeted at one specific demographic that it can't do well against a movie that's targeted at several, larger, more dominant demographics (i.e.: the Indy 4 movie).
Movie06
07-26-2008, 12:19 AM
I dunno about Wolverine beating out Hanna Montana: The Movie. If this question were asked to me BEFORE May 2008 then I would've said 100% without a doubt in my mind that the Wolverine movie would easily destroy the Hanna Montana movie next year in theaters. But then in May 2008 the Sex and the City movie came out, and that totally destroyed the 4th Indiana Jones movie due to it's success and figures on opening weekend (which no one ever expected to happen), so you never know...
Sex and the City isn't aimed at little girls.
Booncy
07-26-2008, 12:27 AM
Sex and the City isn't aimed at little girls.
I know that I was just pointing out Sex and the City as an example of a movie that's targeted at one demographic and actually proving to do more successful over a movie that everyone assumed would do better than it (without a doubt) merely because it has a much more dominant & diverse target demographic audience.
Antiyonder
07-26-2008, 12:57 AM
I know that I was just pointing out Sex and the City as an example of a movie that's targeted at one demographic and actually proving to do more successfully over a movie that everyone assumed would do better than it (without a doubt) merely because it has a much more dominant & diverse target demographic audience.
Out of curiousity, was Sex In The City a successful show or a fad like HM?
Gokou Ruri
07-26-2008, 01:57 AM
Out of curiousity, was Sex In The City a successful show or a fad like HM? What's the difference? No live-action show lasts forever, so they all end eventually. People calling Hannah Montana a fad have me scratching my head. Nobody thinks it's going to be around forever, not even Disney. Calling it a fad is entirely pointless because EVERY show is a fad, except for the unpopular ones.
Though it's funny how even the show makes fun of how overexposed the franchise is. They had an episode about it.
Antiyonder
07-26-2008, 02:07 AM
What's the difference? No live-action show lasts forever, so they all end eventually.
But just the same, some live action shows from decades past still air frequently today (Leave It To Beaver, I Love Lucy, Family Matters), thus they are certainly a little more than a fad.
Edboy 13
07-27-2008, 12:22 AM
Hannah Montana this, Miley Cyrus that! Quite frankly, I'm sick to death of Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus! How that movie of her's made so much freaking money is beyond me! Every time her show's on I try to watch, but I never get through one episode! And another thing, in regards to her movie, who in heaven's name goes to the movies to see a concert? If I want to see a concert I'll go to Youtube or go to the event myself! When I go to the movies I go there to see a movie, not to have my ears blasted out by loud music!
Old Guy
07-27-2008, 12:29 AM
Hannah Montana has a very specific demographic - girls between the ages of 9 and 12. Anyone beyond that demographic would most likely not see the movie.
Most likely? No. VERY likely they WILL. 12 year olds will watch the movie by themselves, but I don't know how many parents will allow their 9 to 11 year old daughters watch a movie by themselves. Hannah Montana will not make tween numbers. It will make FAMILY numbers at the box office. I still think Wolverine will win, but Hannah will make a good amount as well. Look at this past weekend. Yes, Dark Knight broken all records but Mama Mia still made like 30 million which is not bad AT ALL. So...it will be a similar situation in May 2008. Except I don't see Wolverine breaking records.
Old Guy
07-27-2008, 12:35 AM
It wouldn't be so bad if she were actually the most interesting character on the show, but I just don't care for Hannah/Miley. Personally I like Jackson and Rico's characters more.
Rico is the best character on that show. That kid needs a spin-off.
Like Lizzie.
I don't recall Lizzie being THIS popular. :confused:
defunctzombie
07-27-2008, 12:41 AM
Wasn't there already a Hannah Montana movie? I could have sworn my nieces went to see one. :confused:
Old Guy
07-27-2008, 12:42 AM
Wasn't there already a Hannah Montana movie? I could have sworn my nieces went to see one. :confused:
It was a concert movie. Not a movie-movie.
buttah
07-27-2008, 12:57 AM
The fad is a little annoying but I think Miley is kinda hot so I can deal
defunctzombie
07-27-2008, 01:04 AM
It was a concert movie. Not a movie-movie.
Ah, okay. Tells you how much I follow Hannah Montana. :sweat:
Infusions
07-27-2008, 03:09 AM
We need more and better singers becoming icons in the world.
Maybe then kids wouldn't have to resort to having Hannah Montana be their singer idol.
Tobias
07-27-2008, 05:58 AM
Rico is the best character on that show. That kid needs a spin-off.
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Agreed. Rico, Jackson, and Oliver are the main reasons to tune into HM. Watch any episode where those three have the 'B' story and I guarantee it'll outshine the Hannah/Miley 'A' story.
Master Toon
07-27-2008, 11:54 AM
Can someone tell me how a show can be a fad? I don't get it.
Can someone tell me how a show can be a fad? I don't get it.Its not the show itself so much as the title character. Hanah Montana/Miley Cyrus has become so incredibly successful that even a movie (that wasnt even a real movie just a concert) about her tour released in so very little theaters nation wide managed number 1 in the box office (run on sentences ftw).
And the question seems pretty noobish Mr. Toon. What do you mean "how can a show be a fad"? Unless you mean that the actual word "fad" is being misused (seeing as how HM is actually a "craze" and not a fad)and that definition wise theres no way a TV show can be a fad.
Old Guy
07-27-2008, 09:56 PM
Agreed. Rico, Jackson, and Oliver are the main reasons to tune into HM. Watch any episode where those three have the 'B' story and I guarantee it'll outshine the Hannah/Miley 'A' story.
I don't like Oliver. And Jackson is alright. Rico, on the other hand, is hilarious.
Can someone tell me how a show can be a fad? I don't get it.
A fad is something that's popular for a little bit. For example, Batman is NOT a fad because it's been popular since 1939. Power Rangers IS a fad because it was only popular for like 3 or 4 years.
NewcomerDC
07-28-2008, 07:46 AM
Rico is the best character on that show. That kid needs a spin-off.
Rico? POPULAR? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!:p
Let me say that Emily Osment a.k.a. Lilly Truscott has more talent than this annoying child.
A fad is something that's popular for a little bit. For example, Batman is NOT a fad because it's been popular since 1939. Power Rangers IS a fad because it was only popular for like 3 or 4 years.Well your kinda not right there. Very true that at one point in time Power Rangers became all the rage and then they moved on to something else but Power Rangers still kept going. Its been on since 93 and has apparently done incredibly well for itself. Same with Pokemon, the craze is over but its still decently popular and still going. If Power Rangers had been canceled the moment it stop being super popular then you would have had a point. Because unlike Power Rangers, Hanah Montana will be canceled the moment it runs its 65 episodes (or more) and then that will be it for Hanah Montana (just like all the other shows before it).
tb4000
07-28-2008, 11:08 AM
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Hanshotfirst113
07-28-2008, 07:21 PM
I have to wonder sometimes...
Believe me, as long as Hannah Montana is still popular the movie is going to make money regardless of what it's up against on opening weekend, Wolverine or not. I'm almost positive of that. If anything, it's Marvel who should be worried, not Disney.
When kids like movies, they inevitable take their parents along to double the box office. Disney are obviously smart enough to know that and act upon it. With things like this, it's best to catch them at their peak, like the Power Rangers movie did when the show was still hot.
Here's the thing...
Seems to me that this Hannah Montana thing is much, much more popular than Lizzie McGuire ever was. Additionally, your talking about X-Men 2. Wasn't X-Men 3 not really well received compared to the first two? It's really possible (perhaps likely) that this Hannah Montana movie might cream Wolverine if the fad continues to stay strong. Didn't the theatrical release of the live show make a lot of dough?
If I recall correctly, it made a fair-sized chuck of change. It's pretty popular. I see her on every tabloid and product at work, its fair to say that her popularity level is high, and movie has a good chance at success.
Wolverine has a larger audience than Hannah Montana's. Wolverine has boys, fathers, teenagers, college guys, dates, internet geeks, comic book guys, YouTubers, deviantArt members and us (Toon Zone forum members).
In other words, primarily geeks like us. Who, in spite of how much we would like to believe otherwise, are not a huge demographic as compared to something with the mass popularity of a Disney franchise.
Hannah Montana just has mothers and little girls. It's little compared to Wolverine's audience.
And the fathers and brothers that they might drag along. Plus it doesn't have to contend with the PG-13 rating. Honestly, to expect HM not to successful is wearing rose-colored glasses.
X-men fans have nothing to worry about, wolverine and Hannah Montana are two different demographics. The boys, comic fans, and teens (and possibly their parents) are going to see Wolverine, while the girls (and their parents) will be seeing HM.
Didn't we have this same discussion about HM and the Saw franchise not too long ago? The demographics are completely different, so what is the point of discussing it?
And the demographic for Wolverine is also much larger.
We'll see.
Yeah, and people said the Sex and the City movie wasn't going to make any movie either. So go fig.
I know you hate Hannah Montana with a seething passion, but it's within the realm of possibility that this movie might make some big bucks. I'm actually positive it will as well as the fad holds out.
That much is pretty obvious to me. Big moolah. Say what you will about the House of Mouse, they have good marketing execs.
But again, Wolverine has the larger audience. No matter how much marketing Disney is going to make, it's not going to destroy Wolverine at the box office. Wolverine will probably make more money than Hannah Montana.
I mean, Lizzie McGuire only made $42 million in the U.S. while X-Men 2 made $214 million in the U.S.
See?
HM is bigger than LM ever was, if I'm calculating correctly.
And about Sex and the City, it's a movie version of the show on HBO, of course people would see it. They'll see any tv show turned into a movie.
......Isn't that what HM is? Or am I stupid?
Hannah Montana has a big enough fanbase to make a theatrical movie insanely successful. The live show did very well in theaters despite being a limited engagement so one can only imagine how big an actual made-for-theaters film will be. And I'm sure it's going to be huge, no matter much Disney/HM haters wish it wasn't. Disney doesn't even have to promote it much, since it already has a built-in, rabid fan base who are going to eat it up. but they probably will promote it up the wazoo. And it will make craploads of cash. Again, provided the fad is still as hot as it is now.
Which is probably what they're counting on. As long they keep up with the public and get it out there at the peak of the fad, they're bound to do well for themselves.
Says the person who hates just about everything Disney stands for. How can you make a non-biased prediction when we all know how much you detest the Walt Disney Company.
A good question, Darth Gonzo asks.
Again, Hannah Montana is much, much, much more popular than Lizzie McGuire would have ever hoped to be.
It's also got cross-marketing of all sorts with her CDs, her public face, and on and on and on. HM isn't just a show on the Disney Channel, its grown beyond that.
HM is not going to be hot when it goes head to head with Wolverine. I just provided an example as to how it won't be possible for HM to win.
If the last installment of his franchise is anything to judge by, the Wolverine movie probably won't be much to write home about.
And the only reason, the live show did so well is because that it was released during the Super Bowl and they didn't want to see their husbands and sons limiting themselves to football games and groaning the words "Just look at them, have they no shame?"
It's good to know that you have a psychic window in the head of the entire American public. And with all due respect, man, the above does not entirely make sense. Exactly what are you trying to say?
Well how about this? Lets just wait and see. Perhaps MH won't beat Wolverine financially but I'm pretty sure it will make a good chunk of change. It will be successful, I'm positive of that.
What??!! I highly, highly doubt that was the reason why the movie made tons of cash. In fact, I'm positive that's not the reason. The Hannah Montana fad is bigger than any kids/tween in a long, long time. That's all there is to it. It has nothing to do with the Super Bowl. You lost me completely there. :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
I remember when the Power Rangers craze was its peak (good times, good times :D), HM seems to be about that level. If Disney play their cards right, they should be rolling in the dough.
I am in total agreement. It's a shame we'll never get Even Stevens on DVD, though thankfully I have all but one single episode on tape, and in order. (Thanks for that great "start to finish" airing in 2003, Disney. :D )
Let me guess; rights issues?
Likely true. Breaking away from Disney was the best move for her, allowing her to strike out on her own. She's been in lots of movies (maybe not hits, but at least she's working steadily), and she's done fairly well with her music. Her Dignity album was pretty solid, IMO, and she tours a lot, too.
Like I said, she's grown beyond that, and more power to her. Disney can't keep her under an iron fist forever, she's got to change somehow, so she's being smart.
Out of curiousity, was Sex In The City a successful show or a fad like HM?
I've watched a number of episodes, and it's pretty well-written, based on what I've seen. And I remember reasonable critical acclaim for it when it was on.
What's the difference? No live-action show lasts forever, so they all end eventually. People calling Hannah Montana a fad have me scratching my head. Nobody thinks it's going to be around forever, not even Disney. Calling it a fad is entirely pointless because EVERY show is a fad, except for the unpopular ones.
Though it's funny how even the show makes fun of how overexposed the franchise is. They had an episode about it.
Well, I think that the test of something like that is how well it stands up to time. But really, HM isn't my favorite thing, but there are far more insipid media creations based on my limited experience.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6818/hansonpeekbs3.gif
Um, meaning?
Michael24
07-28-2008, 07:27 PM
Let me guess; rights issues?
I'm not sure. They did release the first 30-something episodes of Lizzie (though not the remainder), so I thought Even Stevens might have followed afterwards. I'm surprised Disney hasn't released it to capitalize on Shia's new level of fame in recent years.
Tobias
07-28-2008, 07:47 PM
I'm not sure. They did release the first 30-something episodes of Lizzie (though not the remainder), so I thought Even Stevens might have followed afterwards. I'm surprised Disney hasn't released it to capitalize on Shia's new level of fame in recent years.
It's not a rights issue, it's just a matter of Disney simply not wanting to put the effort into it. It's the same deal with the sets of the Disney Afternoon Shows.
They started releasing volume sets of six different DA Shows (Gummi Bears, Ducktales, Rescue Rangers, Talespin, Darkwing Duck, and Gargoyles) and have yet to finish off ANY of them, despite five of the six only being one volume away from completion.
Life With Derek is getting a season set release come October, but it's not from Disney. In fact, the only way we'd probably EVER get a real season set from a Disney sitcom, and not just the crappy 3 to 4 episode single discs, is if they let another company (Shout, Rhino, Anchor Bay, etc) handle the release.
Old Guy
07-28-2008, 07:58 PM
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6818/hansonpeekbs3.gif
You are only allowed to use that photo if people are saying that Hannah Montana is hot. Which I doubt anyone will because she's not. Selena Gomez, now there's someone hot. ;)
DarthGonzo
07-28-2008, 08:55 PM
Thank God for you, Hanshotfirst. It's really nice to see an entire thread summed up so well. No bull. This is as sincere as I get. ;)
Again, I really think this Hanna Montana movie is going to go over like gangbusters. Anyone who vehemently denies that is letting their hatred of the HM juggernaut cloud their judgement.
Perhaps the Wolverine movie will do well. Lets see...both movies are opening May 1st. First weekend of the summer movie season. Wolverine will be the first big action film of the season and like Iron Man I can see it making some decent money - although not as much as Iron Man, Indy or Dark Knight. HM will be the first big kids movie of the season and will also make big money. But in HM's case I think "big" is an understatement. Disney will promote this thing like nobodies business. It will be gigantic, whether anyone wants to believe it or not. All Disney needs to do is keep the HM gravy train rolling for 9 more months.
Old Guy
07-28-2008, 09:33 PM
Huge? I don't know. Like it has been said...when a kids TV show is huge you're gonna get a movie, but the only one that actually did HUGE business was the Ninja Turtles movie from 1990. Everything else either did decent (and that includes the Power Rangers movie) or flopped. Hannah Montana will do decent business. I can see it opening with $30 million and making $100 million overall, but Wolverine will most likely win that weekend. It'll probably open with $60 or 70 million.
Silverstar
07-28-2008, 11:08 PM
I realize this is late, but really, comparing the Wolverine movie to the Hannah Montana movie is just plain silly; the 2 movies aren't even close to being aimed at the same audience. You'll find that the hardcore Logan-heads and comic book geeks who'll flock to see Wolverine in theaters will have very little overlapping with the crowd aching to see Miley Cyrus on the big screen. It's like comparing a strawberry parfait to a sardine sandwich.
And another thing: Hannah is entertainment for the whole family: Mom, Dad, Bro and Sis. There aren't going to be a whole lot of entire families going to theaters to see a hairy anti-social mutant with six-inch claws popping out of his hands; comic geeks like us will, sure, but we're in the minority. The Disney-loving families outnumber us, trust me on this one; there's like 5 of them for every 1 of us. And there's profit in numbers.
And like it or not, haters, HM is going to make some bank. Will Wolverine make more or less than HM? Who cares? It doesn't matter; Wolverine isn't going to kill Miley-Mania; "it" trends like Hannah fizzle out on their own, in their own time. Squawking about how popular Hanna Montana is is as futile as screaming at the sun for being hot. It's not going to change a darn thing; when it's time for it to burn out, it will do it on its' own, there's nothing you can do about it, so just watch something else and get on with your life.
Michael24
07-29-2008, 12:26 AM
You are only allowed to use that photo if people are saying that Hannah Montana is hot. Which I doubt anyone will because she's not. Selena Gomez, now there's someone hot. ;)
I agree with that about Hannah/Miley (eeew!!), but who is this Selena Gomez people keep mentioning?
Old Guy
07-29-2008, 12:48 AM
who is this Selena Gomez people keep mentioning?
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n429/HOTTIE_GIRL_97/selena_gomez_1208561566.jpg
Gokou Ruri
07-29-2008, 02:22 AM
I agree with that about Hannah/Miley (eeew!!), but who is this Selena Gomez people keep mentioning? She plays Mikayla (Hannah's rival teen popstar) on Hannah Montana, but she's also one of the main characters on Wizards of Waverly Place.
Michael24
07-29-2008, 03:00 AM
Ah. I've seen her in the ads for Wizards, but didn't know her name. She's alright. They're no Christy Romano or Hilary, though. :D
RomanMack
07-29-2008, 03:19 AM
Yeah, the show is popular. Not surprising considering we're dealing with DAMN KIDDIES.
Old Guy
07-29-2008, 03:35 AM
Ah. I've seen her in the ads for Wizards, but didn't know her name. She's alright. They're no Christy Romano or Hilary, though. :D
Romano has a nice body, but her face is ugly. And Duff is nothing special. Teenage Lindsay Lohan FTW. The real hotties were in the `90s. Kelly on SBTB, Kimberly on Power Rangers, Nikki Cox on Un-happily Ever After, etc.
EDIT:
And if you wanna count the musical side (cause Hannah Montana is a recording performer after all) in the `90s you had the Spice Girls which all four were hot, Britney Spears (before she went nuts), Christina Aguilera, etc.
Oh...and going back to TV. Let's not forget Jennifer Love Hewitt on Party of Five.
Antiyonder
07-29-2008, 03:40 AM
Don't get me wrong. I'm willing to admit that HM could beat Wolverine, but to say that it has no chance is just as much an exageration and opinion as our statement is. The only arguement that I have to disagree with on the matter:
In other words, primarily geeks like us. Who, in spite of how much we would like to believe otherwise, are not a huge demographic as compared to something with the mass popularity of a Disney franchise.
And another thing: Hannah is entertainment for the whole family: Mom, Dad, Bro and Sis. There aren't going to be a whole lot of entire families going to theaters to see a hairy anti-social mutant with six-inch claws popping out of his hands; comic geeks like us will, sure, but we're in the minority.
Comic related movies such as Spider-Man, X-Men, Iron Man and Batman (Begins and TDK) have done pretty well in theaters and I sincerely doubt that it is just the comic book geeks that brought success to those movie franchises. Wolverine is fairly well known to the non comic buyers and has a connection in the X-Men Movie franchise.
Michael24
07-29-2008, 12:13 PM
Romano has a nice body, but her face is ugly. And Duff is nothing special.
Romano has gotten even prettier since Even Stevens (I wish she'd get her darn debut album out already!), and after seeing Hilary in concert last summer, I realized that she's even more stunning than in any picture I've ever seen. Perhaps they're "Plain Jane" to some, but that's my type. :)
Oh...and going back to TV. Let's not forget Jennifer Love Hewitt on Party of Five.
Hewitt FTW overall. That's my girl! :nurse: :D
Master Toon
07-29-2008, 01:59 PM
Romano has a nice body, but her face is ugly.
You think so? I've always thought she was cute.
RonDrakenfan17
07-29-2008, 04:35 PM
I don't like Oliver. And Jackson is alright. Rico, on the other hand, is hilarious.
Hmm Rico? He's funny at times but not my favorite, but yah Jackson is cool and do agree if you have to stay tuned to the show watch those subplots with Jackson in them. There pretty funny. Oliver is ok, but he's barley in the show any more. And yah far better than the Miley/Hanah plots, and ok she does bring in the money I'm not dening that but I'm just saying she's very much over exposed.
Edit;
Why I liked Jackson plots more? Becuase Miley/Hanah plots are normally about her being selfish but hey that's me.
Old Guy
07-29-2008, 04:40 PM
Hmm Rico? He's funny at times
Nah, man. He's awesome. The episode where he kisses Miley is the best.
Tobias
07-29-2008, 05:15 PM
Why I liked Jackson plots more? Becuase Miley/Hanah plots are normally about her being selfish but hey that's me.
Yeah, I noticed that too. EVERY plot centers around something Hannah/Miley wants and selfishly tries to get, then learns in the end said thing isn't important. That's pretty much EVERY Miley plot.
Meanwhile, the Jackson/Rico/Oliver plots tend to be a bit more diverse. I wouldn't mind if they really did spin those three off into a series without Miley/Hannah around.
Old Guy
07-29-2008, 05:34 PM
Meanwhile, the Jackson/Rico/Oliver plots tend to be a bit more diverse. I wouldn't mind if they really did spin those three off into a series without Miley/Hannah around.
It's possible. Disney did give Corey & his dad their own TV show.
Master Toon
07-29-2008, 07:47 PM
Why I liked Jackson plots more? Becuase Miley/Hanah plots are normally about her being selfish but hey that's me.
I'll admit that Miley does aim to get her way in a few episodes but it's all justified. Except for the one where she wants a new phone and the newest one where she wants her star moved.
Light Lucario
07-29-2008, 09:40 PM
Yeah, the show is popular. Not surprising considering we're dealing with DAMN KIDDIES.
I don't see a reason to get so upset with the kids who do like HM and insult them. Sure, I don't like it either, but I don't see a problem with letting the people who do like it just have a fun time with what they enjoy. Personally, I honestly couldn't care less if the Wolverine movie gets less money opening weekend than the HM movie or not next spring. Why? Because it isn't important to worry about, in my opinion, and HM is a fad to begin with. Like all fads, it will cool down and just be remembered for that high point. So, just let the kids be happy with what they have and go on with what you, meaning everyone here, like to do and be happy.
Besides that, I'm sure that we liked really lame stuff when we were little. I bet that some of the live action shows that I used to watch in the early and mid 90s wouldn't look so good to me now. There's also those who were into Saved By the Bell who could also fall into that kind of category.
Blackstar
07-29-2008, 11:37 PM
It's possible. Disney did give Corey & his dad their own TV show.
That didn't exactly happen by popular demand. T'Keyah "Crystal" Kemah (the actress who played Mrs. Baxter) had already quit That's So Raven after season 2, and Raven Symone didn't want to do the show anymore, so Disney was left with 2 choices: either end the series or refurbish the series around the 2 remaining stars. Disney went with the 2nd option.
Old Guy
07-29-2008, 11:41 PM
either end the series or refurbish the series around the 2 remaining stars.
They were the only two? What about the hot red-head and that other kid? They wanted to leave as well?
Blackstar
07-29-2008, 11:50 PM
They were the only two? What about the hot red-head and that other kid? They wanted to leave as well?
Honestly, I don't know if they're leaving was by choice or not. I guess the producers felt that they couldn't have Raven's friends still on the show if Raven herself wasn't going to be there.
Old Guy
07-29-2008, 11:57 PM
Honestly, I don't know if they're leaving was by choice or not. I guess the producers felt that they couldn't have Raven's friends still on the show if Raven herself wasn't going to be there.
Why not? It wouldn't be the first time it happened. Or maybe it didn't even have to be a spin-off. Just a new show with the actors. Kinda like how they gave Miranda Cosgrove her own show after Drake & Josh ended.
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 12:49 AM
Back on topic
She started her little fame on disney channel, and is now on almost anything.
I've gone in so many stores and I see Hannah Montana Bookbags, Hannah Montana Shirt, Even Hannah Montana wigs!
Thats just way too much stuff, even Lizzy McGuire didn't get as much merchandise.
defunctzombie
07-30-2008, 12:56 AM
There was a sign as soon as I walked in Kohls yesterday directing you to the Hannah Montana/Hayden P./Avril Lavigne section. Sure, stuff like that is cute on the little teeny seven year olds but the stuff I walked past was aimed at the 12-15 year olds. Didn't know kids that old were still into Hannah Montana. I'm surprised there weren't any geek sized shirts. :p
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 12:58 AM
Plenty of kids in the 12-15 age range watch Hannah Montana, It is a preteen show you know.
Old Guy
07-30-2008, 01:03 AM
even Lizzy McGuire didn't get as much merchandise.
Yup. Anytime someone compares her to Lizzy I'm like, "are you sure?"
Ackar
07-30-2008, 01:57 AM
The other day at the supermarket they had HM stick-on tattoos in the 75cent machines near the door.
http://www.acepartysupplies.com/v/vspfiles/photos/C76923-2T.jpg
:rolleyes2:
I hate her, I want her to die.
Ackar
07-30-2008, 02:37 AM
Miley Sought for Safe-Sex Ed - E! Online (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b148142_miley_sought_safe-sex_ed.html?sid=rss_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories)
It may not be Disney's first choice of sponsor for their brightest—albeit increasingly antsy—teen star, but teaming Miley Cyrus with a condom manufacturer may not be as ridiculous a notion as it might have been, say, six months ago.
In a shameless publicity grab (and yes, we bit), LifeStyles Condoms has offered the 15-year-old Hannah Montana star $1 million to become the newest purveyor of prophylactics and to become the company spokesgirl.
While Cyrus has vowed to save herself for marriage, the company says the young star should never say never.
Pointing to a certain fellow tween queen (cough, Jamie Lynn Spears, cough), LifeStyles claims that, should Cyrus choose to get into bed with them, so to speak, she may enjoy a less dysfunctional future.
"Pop culture proves that teens are more ready than ever to discuss the subject of sex," says the company's VP of marketing, Carol Carrozza. "We believe that Miley is both influential and relatable to this afflicted set—and is the obvious choice to get the message of safe sex out to teens across America."
Team Cyrus, however, doesn't seem so smitten with the proposal. "We never received an offer, nor would she consider the offer," her rep tells E! News.
But LifeStyles, which already has a 50 Cent line, isn't giving up easily. The condom dispenser is willing to sweeten the deal: When she comes of legal age, the company is prepared to offer Cyrus a lifetime supply.
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But the fad will have faded before she reaches that age.
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 02:56 AM
I hate her, I want her to die.
Thats a little extreme, she may be annoying, but wanting her dead is just too much.
Daxdiv
07-30-2008, 03:03 AM
Miley Sought for Safe-Sex Ed - E! Online (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b148142_miley_sought_safe-sex_ed.html?sid=rss_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories)
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But the fad will have faded before she reaches that age.
I don't know I am still holding on to the theory that she will reach "Britney Spears" level of popularity afterwards.
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 03:11 AM
Then there will be another chris crocker screaming, Leave Miley Alone.
Well I guess it is tad extreme... Besides she was a whore to begin with. (Just out of curiosity, do you like Miley Cyrus? Cause if you do, I'm sorry to offend you...)
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 03:20 AM
Well I guess it is tad extreme... Besides she was a whore to begin with. (Just out of curiosity, do you like Miley Cyrus? Cause if you do, I'm sorry to offend you...)
I don't hate her, but I don't like her either.
How is she a ya know, I never saw any storys of her being nude.
Ok I see what you mean... You don't like or dislike, in other words Don't care about het lol
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 03:25 AM
Ok I see what you mean... You don't like or dislike, in other words Don't care about het lol
Yeah I really don't care what she does as long as she doesn't interfere with me, which she won't.
Daxdiv
07-30-2008, 03:25 AM
Then there will be another chris crocker screaming, Leave Miley Alone.
Basically yeah, I'm waiting for her crash and burn to happen in her late 20, early 30, mostly due to the fact that people think that she might be the next Ms. Spears. But by then I be "Whys that name familiar?"
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 03:26 AM
Basically yeah, I'm waiting for her crash and burn to happen in her late 20, early 30, mostly due to the fact that people think that she might be the next Ms. Spears. But by then I be "Whys that name familiar?"
We never know if she will be like spears, or be a clean singer.
50/50 chance.
So, true... Even had an episode of the in South Park Hanna Montana was next lol
They should have won an Emmy for that episode.
I wish I could learn that chant...
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 03:30 AM
So, true... Even had an episode of the in South Park Hanna Montana was next lol
They should have won an Emmy for that episode.
I wish I could learn that chant...
Yup Miley will be the next person that they harvest.
lol Who didn't see this coming? I know I did!
Daxdiv
07-30-2008, 03:34 AM
Well to be fair, Britney did start off as clean and innocent singer when she started out, then she evolved into this woman that showed off her body in every video and performance. Sure it could reflect badly on Miley when that happens, especially her father since he is a key member of an organization of parents that have too much free time on their hands... The PTC.
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 03:36 AM
Well to be fair, Britney did start off as clean and innocent singer when she started out, then she evolved into this woman that showed off her body in every video and performance. Sure it could reflect badly on Miley when that happens, especially her father since he is a key member of an organization of parents that have too much free time on their hands... The PTC.
Yeah but Britney never was involved with Disney, I don't think any disney singers have grown to be like Britney
Yeah but Britney never was involved with Disney, I don't think any disney singers have grown to be like Britney
Ahhh... I agree with you half-way on this one...
Daxdiv
07-30-2008, 03:50 AM
Her link to Disney is being in the "Mouseketeers" it minimal at the most, but that her link.
Ackar
07-30-2008, 03:58 AM
Her link to Disney is being in the "Mouseketeers" it minimal at the most, but that her link.
But that puts her in the same club as all the other tween stars of disney's past.
Over exposed at a young age, only to grow up to be a media whore. Part of the ever repeating disney tween cycle.
But that puts her in the same club as all the other tween stars of disney's past.
Over exposed at a young age, only to grow up to be a media whore. Part of the ever repeating disney tween cycle.
So true, so truely, truely, true.
(I wish Disney would keep their cartoons already... It's gettin' depressing to watch these at 1:00 a.m.)
Old Guy
07-30-2008, 06:15 AM
Well to be fair, Britney did start off as clean and innocent singer when she started out
Not really. The video for her first single, Baby Hit Me One More Time featured her dancing in a sexy school uniform. Britney ALWAYS sold sex. It's just that she started as a tease and then went all out.
Miley Cyrus is a Disney girl so she isn't allowed to do that, BUT every other day a picture of her half naked is leaked on the Internet. So...you know that in her personal life she's up to no good. Most of these Disney kids are crazy in their personal life. Look at that High School Musical chick, Vanessa Hudgens. A year ago nude pics of her were leaked. And let's not get started on Lindsay Lohan.
Here's the problem, man. These people are just too young. Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, etc never had a normal childhood. So, that's why they're all messed up. I think Disney should stick to people like Ashley Tisdale who's almost in her mid-`20s and pretending to be a High School girl. Tisdale is the only one of these current Disney stars who actually has a future cause she had a normal childhood and is only now starting to get the work and fame and what-not. So, her head is not messed up or whatever. She can look at things from the perspective of an older and wiser person.
Blackstar
07-30-2008, 08:53 AM
I hate her, I want her to die.
How can you hate Miley Cyrus? You don't even know her.
I'm no fan of Miley Cyrus either, but wishing another human being dead just because you're sick of seeing her is a tad extreme, don't you think? Especially since no one is forcing you to watch her show or to go to any of her concerts. And I could never hate Hanna Montana because, a) Hate is a very strong emotion, and I try not to hate anyone, and b) Hanna Montana is a fictional character, as in not real. Harboring such violent emotions over a TV show or fictional character on a TV show is just plain silly.
How can you hate Miley Cyrus? You don't even know her.
I'm no fan of Miley Cyrus either, but wishing another human being dead just because you're sick of seeing her is a tad extreme, don't you think? Especially since no one is forcing you to watch her show or to go to any of her concerts. And I could never hate Hanna Montana because, a) Hate is a very strong emotion, and I try not to hate anyone, and b) Hanna Montana is a fictional character, as in not real. Harboring such violent emotions over a TV show or fictional character on a TV show is just plain silly.
lol You sound so funny trying to convince me not to hate her...
Blackstar
07-30-2008, 11:07 AM
lol You sound so funny trying to convince me not to hate her...
What's even funnier is your self deluded belief that I would want to change your mind about anything and that I'm even the slightest bit interested in Miley Cyrus or your desire to spew bile about her. No offense, but I'm not a fan of Miley Cyrus and she doesn't even know you exist, so why should your hatred of her matter to either of us?
However, if your above comment is any indication, it's become evident to me that my responding with any sort of intelligent commentary would be like attempting to explain supply-side economics to a Kentucky bred pig: a complete waste of time. And so I won't waste my typing fingers by continuing this discussion (if something as jejune and pointless as this even qualifies a discussion).
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 12:18 PM
lol You sound so funny trying to convince me not to hate her...
Whats your reason for hating her?
defunctzombie
07-30-2008, 12:19 PM
Down, boys. I don't like her either but flaming is not the answer.
Galaxy 9000
07-30-2008, 12:21 PM
He sure likes to curse about her.
Well I guess it is tad extreme... Besides she was a whore to begin with. (Just out of curiosity, do you like Miley Cyrus? Cause if you do, I'm sorry to offend you...)Lol @ 13 year olds. Yeah saying she wants to die is a tad extreme, but then calling a 15 year old child a whore is also pretty extreme.
Just cause nobody here likes Miley Cyrus and hopes that she quickly disappears doesnt mean anyone here is gonna support your ignorance.
[content removed] Sigh.... hope you enjoyed your stay here.
James Harvey
07-30-2008, 12:30 PM
Given how this thread has gone, like similar threads that have come before it, this thread is closed.
When this subject can be approached in a more respectable manner, then it can be revisited. For those who did approach this subject in a respectable manner, my apologies for having to close this thread, but, as you can tell, this thread has certainly served its purpose. It's a shame when a user, or users, ruins a discussion thread.
Thread closed.
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