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Hobbes829
07-12-2008, 07:04 PM
I know this is gonna rub some people the wrong way, but i'm not the biggest fan of the godfather. I understand that people love it, but i was bored. I love that scene in family guy where peter says the same thing, that he doesn't see the big deal. It's really long, and the plot is decent. The acting is solid, but i just don't care for it. I'm not about to see the sequels as the first one was long. I can't imagine spending nearly 4 hours for more of the same.
I also hate Lost in Translation. Seriously, it's one of the worst movies i have ever seen. I feel asleep during it. How the hell did the writer get an oscar for such a waste of film. There's no real plot, very little dialogue, and what they say isn't particularly interesting or clever.
Let the bashing of my taste in films begin
Movie06
07-12-2008, 07:07 PM
Revenge of the Nerds-It just wasn't funny. I mean, the nerds and the jocks are just annoying to me. The only saving grace of the film was John Goodman, one of my favorite actors.
And what's worse is that by each sequel, it got from bad to just awful.
The Godfather-Yeah, it was boring to me too. 'Nuff said.
AlgeaX
07-12-2008, 07:18 PM
I never really understood why the 1939 The Wizard of Oz gets praised to the heavens so much. It's an okay movie to kill an hour or two but hardly the greatest movie of all time. Personally I always preferred the 1985 Return to Oz.
Hobbes829
07-12-2008, 07:20 PM
I never really understood why the 1939 The Wizard of Oz gets praised to the heavens so much. It's an okay movie to kill an hour or two but hardly the greatest movie of all time. Personally I always preferred the 1985 Return to Oz.
Watch the wizard of oz with the audio off, and pink floyd's dark side of the moon.
Desensitized
07-12-2008, 07:22 PM
Kangaroo Jack.
The general public loved this one and I just don't get it. The film piles on every comedy cliche known to man, throws in some horrible acting, and another animal mascot character.
I mean, I realize not all family films can be The Lion King, but that doesn't mean they should be on par with Mac N' Me.
Movie06
07-12-2008, 07:32 PM
I never really understood why the 1939 The Wizard of Oz gets praised to the heavens so much. It's an okay movie to kill an hour or two but hardly the greatest movie of all time. Personally I always preferred the 1985 Return to Oz.
I agree with you there. Personally, I consider the 1939 Wizard of Oz to be overrated in general. For me, I prefer Wicked or Tin Man.
Silly McGooses
07-12-2008, 07:36 PM
Kangaroo Jack.
The general public loved this one and I just don't get it.
Woah, what "general public" are you talking about? That's supposed to be one of the worst movies ever!
Desensitized
07-12-2008, 07:43 PM
Woah, what "general public" are you talking about? That's supposed to be one of the worst movies ever!Well, it made 'Baby Geniuses' money.
This some serious money, yo. :p
DarthGonzo
07-12-2008, 07:46 PM
I agree with you there. Personally, I consider the 1939 Wizard of Oz to be overrated in general. For me, I prefer Wicked or Tin Man.
The Wizard of Oz was an amazing film for the time it was made. One has to look at it in that context. I swear it seems like so many people hold all films to only one set of criteria, which isn't really fair when judging different films from different time periods and genres against each other.
Wizard of Oz isn't my absolute favorite movie, but it is a classic that stands the test of time. Myself, I actually like Return to Oz a little better, but there's no denying the original's place in cinematic history.
Regarding the topic at hand, there's lot of movies that are incredibly popular with the mainstream that I couldn't give a rat's patootie about.
Tobias
07-12-2008, 07:53 PM
Spider-Man 2. I hate, hate, HATED this movie, and everytime I voice my dislike of it, I get jumped on. I'm sorry, I just feel this film was far too overhyped for it's own good.
Hanshotfirst113
07-12-2008, 08:23 PM
Um, this looks vaguely familiar (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=188403)....
GregX
07-12-2008, 08:48 PM
Let's see...
Anything directed by Michael Bay.
Return of the Jedi
Jurassic Park
Indiana Jones 4
E.T.
Independence Day
Oy... so many.
Knight
07-12-2008, 09:09 PM
All the Pirate of The Caribbean movies.
Hanshotfirst113
07-12-2008, 09:12 PM
All the Pirate of The Caribbean movies.
The first is a touch overlong, but it's not as ridiculously pretentious as the second and third installments. It's not as great as many people make it out to be, IMO, but it's not too bad. The sequels run their ideas into the ground to an excessive point, however.
Captain Highwind
07-12-2008, 09:15 PM
All the Pirate of The Caribbean movies.
You know, I gave these movies a shot, and in all honesty, I know they're pirates...
but my god, everybody looked so scuzzy, even Keira Knightley.
It was very distracting to pay attention to the plot since the crew just had to go to town with the dirt make-up.
Hobbes829
07-12-2008, 09:19 PM
I was thinking of films along the lines of anything directed by Martin Scorsese, or Citizen Kane. You know the classics! Generally big summer blockbusters have just as many detractors as they do people that enjoy them. Case in point, if you say that you liked The Rock, you'll get some people that really like it, or people that don't. However, you say that you didn't like Goodfellas or Scarface (like myself) and people take it so damn personal as if you just farted in church. I generally don't like Mob movies.
Freedom_Fighter
07-12-2008, 09:20 PM
Ya... Curse of the black pearl was great, but the second was like my annoying ex-girlfriend who can't stop talking.... got bored.
I didn't even try to watch the third completely, i just saw the end... BTW, the scene after the credits is probably the most useless post-conclusion I've ever saw...
Desensitized
07-12-2008, 09:23 PM
I was thinking of films along the lines of anything directed by Martin Scorsese, or Citizen Kane. You know the classics!That's all these threads do is bash the classics. It gets tiring.
So I figure why not take the piss out of a film I genuinely hate and the masses love?
Sort of on-topic: I always figured Mike's (Hanshotfirst113) guilty pleasure was 'Baby Geniuses'. No idea why, either. :confused:
AnimatedSnow47
07-12-2008, 09:34 PM
Anchorman - Although not univerally loved, many of my peers like this movie I consider to be extremely mean-spirited, uncreative, and terribly acted.
Apocalypse Now - Yuck. Yuck and one more Yuck. I had to watch this in my college Vietnam War class. It was a pure exercise in nihilism with no redeeming/optimistic characters or qualities--even my teacher had to agree with that point.
Fight Club - Another mindless exercise in pure nihilism.
The Godfather - I never understood the appeal of this movie at all. It's just not good, really. Boring, dry, unappealing lead characters and so on...
Meet the Parents - Another mean-spirited comedy that didn't make me laugh once!
GregX
07-12-2008, 09:39 PM
The first Pirates movie was pretty good. The sequels had interesting ideas, but were overlong, and way over the top. Combine them into a single movie, and they might have played better.
I hear they are making a fourth movie, and the prospect makes me ill.
Hobbes829
07-12-2008, 09:40 PM
It's not about bashing. I just want to know that i'm not alone in my POV. I just think that people take it as a personal afront if someone doesn't like those. I just want people to think of why they like what they do, and not go along with what everyone else says. I'm not saying that everyone is a follower, but i'd be willing to bet that there are a lot of people that claim that the godfather is a "cinematic masterpiece" because a lot of people say that. I enjoy classic films like To Kill a Mockingbird as I enjoy films about men of integrity standing up for what they believe in despite the odds. I guess what i should have made clear, and i hope people get from this discussion is that they should examine what they like about they watch. I understand that art is very important to human beings and goes to people's very core, but if someone doesn't like something that you do, don't resort to insults. There's room for disagreement. I think the Mona Lisa is a beautiful painting, but i like the school of athens more. Some love Ric Flair. I love watching Flair, but i prefer Ricky Steamboat. Some people enjoy the Godfather, I don't. I would rather sit back and watch Die Hard.
Desensitized
07-12-2008, 09:41 PM
Yeah, I understand. Some people like Goodfellas, others don't. Some people like Kangaroo Jack, others don't.
The thread shouldn't just limit itself to one side, is all I'm saying. :)
James
07-12-2008, 09:42 PM
All the Pirate of The Caribbean movies.
I could only just about stomach the first - and that was only because of Depp. Never saw the appeal beyond that.
Jurassic Park - nope, never saw the appeal there either.
Brazil - as many who have suffered my opinion long enough have been aware long enough.
GregX
07-12-2008, 09:44 PM
You know, I eagerly await the day the film I'm making ends up listed multiple times in a thread like this.
Then I know I'll end up with a Best Picture Oscar :evil:
Damien
07-12-2008, 09:48 PM
Thank you, Tobias. I thought I was the only one in the universe. Spider-Man 2 was awful. Awful to the max.
I also agree that The Godfather is boring. Besides, movies that more accurately depict the mob are much more interesting.
I actually agree with most of the movies named so far. Not all, but alot.
Also, I didn't hate it, but I don't understand the hype around 300 and will probably eject it from the DVD collection.
sparkykandy
07-12-2008, 10:13 PM
I only saw the first Lord of the Rings movie and never read any of the books, but the first movie bored the hell out of me. I felt that it dragged on and on and that nothing really happened. Are the other two movies better paced?
Transformers- The lack of giant robot action really disappointed me. Not only that, but when we got the giant robot action, the camera was shaking like crazy. It was impossible to tell what was going on. Also, we barely got to know any of the Transformers besides Optimus Prime and Bumblebee. I can't even remember the names of the rest. That and too much human focus. I wanted to see the Transformers not human spotlight with Transformers in the background. Yeah, I was really disappointed.
Freedom_Fighter
07-12-2008, 11:17 PM
I agree with you sparkykandy, IMO, I think that because Bay movies are like a kid playing with his toys, there's no place for a good story telling, it seems to me that he only want to get at the end of the movie as soon as possible...
Best asset to this film is Megan Fox... such a heartbreaker :(
Hanshotfirst113
07-12-2008, 11:50 PM
The Godfather-Yeah, it was boring to me too. 'Nuff said.
We know.
Brazil - as many who have suffered my opinion long enough have been aware long enough.
We know, James. We know ;).
Kolbar
07-13-2008, 12:14 AM
The Incredibles
300
I Am Legend
The Pirates of the Caribbean franchise
The Shrek franchise
The Harry Potter franchise
The Matrix franchise
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Thing
Kill Bill, Vol. 1 and 2
Anything by Will Ferrell
Jerry Maguire
Remember the Titans
thedanmachine
07-13-2008, 12:27 AM
Miracle on 34th Street. That movie annoys me to no end.
Desensitized
07-13-2008, 12:29 AM
I will state Fight Club and hope someone can prove to me why it's a good movie, because I'm assuming I missed the point. I never saw one.
Weird, because I usually like such movies. (And apparently 'clones' of it like American Psycho...)
Philo & Gunge
07-13-2008, 12:37 AM
No Country for Old Men - Best Picture of the Year, yeah right... :shrug: Great performances from the cast, great cinematography, terrible script ruins the film.
Into the Wild - As boring as watching paint dry. Barely made it an hour into this movie before I gave up on it.
Hello Dolly - Well, at least in my neck of the woods (I live about 20-30 minutes away from Yonkers...). A musical that doesn't know direction it wants to go in and decides to distract us from that by making every darn song a huge showstopper. Give me the demon barber of Fleet Street over the matchmaker any day.
Drachentöter
07-13-2008, 01:19 AM
I will state Fight Club and hope someone can prove to me why it's a good movie, because I'm assuming I missed the point. I never saw one.
It's a good movie because it does a good job of conveying the book's "no BS" attitude and pointing out much of the ridiculousness of the 90's (IKEA furniture sets, stupid customs done to save face, white collar work....) and it contains one of the better plot twists back when plot twists weren't standard requirement. The dialogue was snappy, the characters were realistically tainted with questionable morals, and the cinematography was unique, taking advantage of very gritty environments and ideas. Brad Pitt and Edward Norton's acting was exemplary.
Much of the movie's success is owed to its source material, the book, but I can't deny that it was very influential and entertaining.
Throw in my vote for Lost in Translation. Nothing happens in that movie. And if you're going to tell me that's the point, then I will argue that I don't have to drop money on movie tickets or DVDs to watch miserable people wander around without purpose. I don't go to the movies to see indie filmmaker's interpretation of what reality is, I go to see a compelling story.
The same goes for Garden State.
Knight
07-13-2008, 02:42 AM
I only saw the first Lord of the Rings movie and never read any of the books, but the first movie bored the hell out of me. I felt that it dragged on and on and that nothing really happened. Are the other two movies better paced?
I found the first Lord of The Rings somewhat boring as well and then when the movie really started getting going it was over (I didnt know anything about the books either) it pissed me off to where I swore I wouldnt watch another chapter until all the movies were done. So I didnt watch the second or third movie until I got the trilogy on dvd. But it has no rewatch value for me.
BrendaBat
07-13-2008, 02:42 AM
Monster's Ball: I rented this a few years ago because of all the praise it got when it was first released (Every review gushed about the films "realism" and Halle Berry's oscar-winning preformance). But this movie was pure crap!! None of the characters acted realistically and it seemed like the lame story was built around showing off Halle Berry's breasts as much as possible!
And Berry's preformance was awful (all she did was cry, scream, and take her clothes off).
..........and if they wanted to load the movie with graphic sex scenes; they should have cast a more attractive leading man than freakin' Billy Bob Thornton. YUK! :p
American Beauty: I hate this movie partly because I found it boring and pretentious. But I hate it mostly for starting the trend of movies centered around white, rich suburban families suffering with lives of quiet desperation and OMG!Dark Secrets!. :p
Toon Capone
07-13-2008, 01:13 PM
I honestly do not like any of the films directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez (I just don't understand their appeal at all)
Underworld
Mean Girls
Adam Sandler movies
The Spider Man films (I admit I haven't seen part 3 though)
There are a lot more but these are the main ones I wanted to mention.
Elven Moon
07-13-2008, 01:54 PM
The last two Pirates of the Caribbean movies - the first one I liked, the last two were just disgusting. I had to force myself to finish. They went on forever, they were 10 times more dark/scuzzy and lost that original charming playfulness, that Davy Jones crew was so gross it was a struggle to look at them, I couldn't understand anything that Calipso woman was saying, etc. It was a huge disappointment.
Captain Highwind
07-13-2008, 03:58 PM
After the Iron Man movie I just don't care for the Spider-Man trilogy anymore.
Maybe if they were able to tie the movie universes together like they're just now getting around to, and maybe after all the recasting that I've been hearing about, but I have no patience for Raimi's desire to milk The Evil Dead franchise at every convenient moment in the series.
Cogliostro
07-14-2008, 03:11 PM
I also hate Lost in Translation. Seriously, it's one of the worst movies i have ever seen. I feel asleep during it. How the hell did the writer get an oscar for such a waste of film. There's no real plot, very little dialogue, and what they say isn't particularly interesting or clever.
Let the bashing of my taste in films begin
Yes it's really hard to pay attention to a film when there isn't any explosions or shootouts or over the top witty dialogue.
Hobbes829
07-14-2008, 03:33 PM
I don't need explosions. I enjoy non-action films. However, i do demand that movies have a plot and that the dialogue not be boring. Lost in translation had no plot to speak of what so ever.
As far as overrated films go, i don't understand why From Russia With Love is high on people's favorite Bond Movie lists. I love Connery as Bond, and I understand the basic gist of the film, but it's hard to follow the plot.
Also, i dislike anything by Wes Anderson. His movies aren't in the least bit funny. What is with this idea that depressed people are funny. Whatever happened to Bill Murray. He used to make funny movies like stripes, ghostbusters and caddyshack. Now it seems that every film he's in he plays a depressed guy.
With the exception of Sleepy Hollow and the first Batman (even that has a lot of flaws) i'm not a tim burton fan. His movies are always art department driven. He doesn't tell good stories for the most part.
Alucard
07-14-2008, 04:37 PM
The Incredibles
300
I Am Legend
The Pirates of the Caribbean franchise
The Shrek franchise
The Harry Potter franchise
The Matrix franchise
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Thing
Kill Bill, Vol. 1 and 2
Anything by Will Ferrell
Jerry Maguire
Remember the Titans
Aren't mods supposed to enforce the lack of list threads?:shrug:
mookie75
07-14-2008, 06:48 PM
Lost in translation had no plot to speak of what so ever.
Every story has a plot. Call it a bad plot if you wish, but claiming a story that takes 102 minutes to tell doesn't have a plot is just plain silly.
Blackstar
07-14-2008, 06:57 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
ANYTHING directed by Tyler Perry. The man is a overrated no-talent hack. His movies pander to the lowest common denominator, they are neither clever nor funny, and yet he has followers. I especially hate it when my fellow African-Americans tell me that I should support his terrible films just because of the color of his skin. A bad movie is a bad movie, regardless of the ethnicity of it's director.
blazecat
07-14-2008, 08:44 PM
The Big Lebowski- What a drug trip!
The Incredibles- I could never get into this movie and I don't understand all the hype. I will admit, it had its moments, but enough for me to want to see the whole thing again.
Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull- This movie was like some cheesy science fiction movie with a corny plot and poor CGI.
The Harry Potter Franchise- I never found it that interesting. That's all.
Pirates of the Carribean 3- I've seen the first movie and I highly enjoyed it. I've never seen the second one but I have seen the third one. It's so horribly over the top and ridiculously long (I think it's 2 hours and 45 minutes)! Seriously, if you haven't seen the third one, good for you. You're doing yourself a favor.
Storm Eagle
07-14-2008, 08:50 PM
Pirates of the Caribbean 3- I've seen the first movie and I highly enjoyed it. I've never seen the second one but I have seen the third one. It's so horribly over the top and ridiculously long (I think it's 2 hours and 45 minutes)! Seriously, if you haven't seen the third one, good for you. You're doing yourself a favor.
Why did you skip the second one anyway?
Hanshotfirst113
07-14-2008, 09:05 PM
Pirates of the Carribean 3- I've seen the first movie and I highly enjoyed it. I've never seen the second one but I have seen the third one. It's so horribly over the top and ridiculously long (I think it's 2 hours and 45 minutes)! Seriously, if you haven't seen the third one, good for you. You're doing yourself a favor.
The was NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO reason for that movie to be that long. GoodFellas can sustain that length. The Godfather can sustain that length. A Jerry Bruckheimer-produced movie about undead pirates? At the 90 minute mark, pack'em, stack'em, and rack'em, let's GO! I have to go to the bathroom! Not to say that there weren't fun things about the Pirates franchise, as their were, but it was run...into....the ground.
blazecat
07-14-2008, 09:52 PM
Why did you skip the second one anyway?
I never got a chance to see it in the movies. And I never rented it on video. I know what happened to Jack at the end (of the second movie) though.
RSNaco
07-14-2008, 10:02 PM
I agree with the person who said 2001. The beginning part drags like it has hours to fill, and the ending makes my eyes hurt and my head explode in the bad way. It's like again they had to fill time and pad out the script, except this time everyone involved was one a horrible drug-induced haze. The middle is very good though and would've been better if it were more focused around that.
Also, I never cared for The Iron Giant. Just didn't engage me or anything like that. Not saying it's a bad movie, I simply didn't like it personally.
Light Lucario
07-14-2008, 10:04 PM
One movie that I didn't really like and other people liked for some reason is Mean Girls. Maybe it was the just environment of the high school and how the mean girl group imposed such high power that turned me off and gave me a headache, but I really don't see what was so great about this movie. It felt more like another cliche mean girls vs. social outcasts in a high school level of drama. That's probably what turned me off the most. That and the stereotypical behavior of the characters.
Hobbes829
07-15-2008, 08:27 AM
I also really dislike anything by the coen brothers. JUST HORRIBLE!
Blackstar
07-15-2008, 08:33 AM
I realize this isn't going to win me a lot of popularity point here, but honestly, I'm not a huge fan of Judd Apatow's films. All of his movies follow the same formula: men are moronic pigs and women are uptight prudes who are impossible to please. It's always about clueless, oafish men who can't live up to their wives/girfriends' impossibly high standards. A little of that shtick goes a long way.
AlgeaX
07-15-2008, 09:41 AM
I agree with the person who said 2001. The beginning part drags like it has hours to fill, and the ending makes my eyes hurt and my head explode in the bad way. It's like again they had to fill time and pad out the script, except this time everyone involved was one a horrible drug-induced haze. The middle is very good though and would've been better if it were more focused around that.
The book is much better in that it explains what the hellis going on.
James
07-15-2008, 10:19 AM
As far as overrated films go, i don't understand why From Russia With Love is high on people's favorite Bond Movie lists. I love Connery as Bond, and I understand the basic gist of the film, but it's hard to follow the plot.
Possibly because it is one of the more authentic offerings in relation to the book. I think it's my favourite Connery movie - it has style and doesn't carry the formula that even the old bonds tended to carry. A more mature Bond than most.
Just out of curiosity - which is your favourite?
With the exception of Sleepy Hollow and the first Batman (even that has a lot of flaws) i'm not a tim burton fan. His movies are always art department driven. He doesn't tell good stories for the most part.
I'm the opposite, I'm not quite sure what was so good about Sleepy Hollow - it didn't quite work for me as a fantasy or fantasy-horror or even a fairy tale. No, not a favourite. Love his Batman films, Nightmare Before Christmas, Ed Wood and even some elements of Chocolate Factory, but no, Sleepy Hollow never grabbed me. So I suppose this is one for the thread.
And the Invisibles - it was good, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it. But I never saw the passion that I've seen for it here. It's one that is considered fantastic which I've never quite understood - or should I say, incredible.
Hanshotfirst113
07-15-2008, 12:16 PM
Possibly because it is one of the more authentic offerings in relation to the book. I think it's my favourite Connery movie - it has style and doesn't carry the formula that even the old bonds tended to carry. A more mature Bond than most.
It's interesting to watch the Bond films in order in that respect. Dr. No was far less action-oriented than the franchise later became. From Russia With Love, like Dr. No, is still very pulpy, but it feels much more like an espionage film than a "Bond movie." It was with Goldfinger that they set the formula. I've unfortunately only read Casino Royale, because I read so slowly and my library hasn't stocked the bloody audiobooks :p.
I'm the opposite, I'm not quite sure what was so good about Sleepy Hollow - it didn't quite work for me as a fantasy or fantasy-horror or even a fairy tale. No, not a favourite. Love his Batman films, Nightmare Before Christmas, Ed Wood and even some elements of Chocolate Factory, but no, Sleepy Hollow never grabbed me. So I suppose this is one for the thread.I love Sleepy Hollow, because to me, it's a sheer valentine to Mario Bava and Hammer Horror. It's themes of faith vs. science are interesting, its characters quirky, and its visuals dazzling. It's a personal favorite. Anyways....
And the Invisibles - it was good, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it. But I never saw the passion that I've seen for it here. It's one that is considered fantastic which I've never quite understood - or should I say, incredible.You mean The Incredibles? The Invisibles is a Grant Morrison comic ;).
Kitschensyngk
07-15-2008, 12:47 PM
Definitely the first Shrek. I watched it a while back and came out unimpressed enough to avoid the later sequels.
James
07-15-2008, 01:01 PM
It's interesting to watch the Bond film in order in that respect. Dr. No was far less action-oriented than the franchise later became. From Russia With Love, like Dr. No, is still very pulpy, but it feels much more like an espionage film than a "Bond movie." It was with Goldfinger that they set the formula. I've unfortunately only read Casino Royale, because I read so slowly and my library hasn't stocked the bloody audiobooks :p.
I agree. The whole "hanger" based final act really became a formula that was unnecessary, and I enjoyed Russia With Love for lacking that even more than Doctor No.
I love Sleepy Hollow, because to me, it's a sheer valentine to Mario Bava and Hammer Horror. It's themes of faith vs. science are interesting, its characters quirky, and its visuals dazzling. It's a personal favorite. Anyways....
Ah, each to their own. I'm not saying it was bad, merely not one I found really grabbed me.
You mean The Incredibles? The Invisibles is a Grant Morrison comic ;).
I know that, you know that, my hands and brain clearly didn't at the time. :)
MonkeyFunk
07-15-2008, 01:04 PM
Night of the Demon. Supposed to be a classic of horror movies, and to be fair it did have a good story and some pretty creepy moments, but shot itself in the foot by making its hero a staunch skeptic who, throughout much of the plot, spent his time making perfectly reasonable explanations for the supernatural goings-on. Way to destory any suspension of disbelief.
Hobbes829
07-15-2008, 01:28 PM
My favorite bond films, or my favorite Connery bond films? Oh well, i'll do both. I loved Dr. No, Goldfinger, and Thunderball. As far as my favorite bond films, two of my favorite were Goldeneye and Casino Royale. I think those movies were well written, acted, and the action was good.
Light Lucario
07-15-2008, 10:44 PM
Definitely the first Shrek. I watched it a while back and came out unimpressed enough to avoid the later sequels.
I completely forgot about that movie. I remember watching Shrek on TBS once and after the movie ended, I still didn't see what the big deal was for the film. It just wasn't that good and I don't plan on watching the sequels either if the films just get even worse later on.
Sin City
Visually, Sin City was stunning, but the characters were unlikable, and the storylines, aside from the two short ones featuring Bruce Willis, were completely boring. I was bored through a lot of this movie.
The Incredible Hulk
Everybody keeps saying this is a reboot of the franchise, and much better than the first one. I couldn't disagree more. With the exception of the two or three times Bruce was Hulk, the film was a snoozefest, and the characters (Liv tyler as Betty Ross) were irritating. Bruce Banner himself was dull and lifeless. To add to that, I dont think skinny little Ed Norton was right for the role. How exactly can you get drawn into a storyline if the characters themselves are deadpan, and have no charisma or personality?
And I didnt care that The film ended the EXACT SAME WAY that 2003's HULK did. Reboot my ass. I will however, admit it had its moments. Tim Roth was a very interesting badguy that you love to hate.
Toon Capone
07-16-2008, 12:55 AM
I like to mention the Scream movies.
I can deal with the first movie but I really didn't like the sequels at all. Especially the third one.
Hanshotfirst113
07-16-2008, 11:10 AM
I like to mention the Scream movies.
I can deal with the first movie but I really didn't like the sequels at all. Especially the third one.
I enjoyed the original Scream to an extent, but it's not quite as clever as it thinks that it is, and as much as I enjoy Williamson's endless homages, they grow somewhat wearing. Some of Craven's set pieces are top-notch (the opening is as visceral as can be, and scene with the locking of the doors is good), and seeing the guy who was once horror's indie icon take on a mainstream film that essentially satirizes himself is interesting. The whole "But this isn't a movie, this is real life!" Shtick started to wear reaaally thin by the end, but the revelation of who the killer was was a great way to keep suspense up. The first film is pretty good, I think. The second takes the "too clever for its own good" quality of the first film and kicks it into a whole new level, and on second examination, the revelation of who the killer was this time is rather tiresome, though again, some of the set pieces are good. I never bothered with the third film. I'd more than had my fill with the first two.
Captain Highwind
07-16-2008, 06:33 PM
Sin City
Visually, Sin City was stunning, but the characters were unlikable, and the storylines, aside from the two short ones featuring Bruce Willis, were completely boring. I was bored through a lot of this movie.
I wish Frank Miller would stop trying to emulate the Sin City effect in upcoming movies. The Spirit trailer looked like 2 minutes of a guy tripping over rooftops on his invisible stunt wire.
James
07-16-2008, 07:01 PM
A topical one: Batman Begins. It was enjoyable, and a pretty faithful adaptation of the comic book, but it didn't get me excited as it did so many. I got what I pretty much expected, but I just didn't find the charm so many found. I wasn't keen on any of the antagonists and while it did have a good cast (barring Holmes), I think the story didn't pull me in. It was too segmented. I think I'd have liked to have seen a film which was a consistent story all the way through with a singular focus - like Burton's Batman film - but with the comic book flavour Nolan was using. I would like to have seen the story focus on the crime in Gotham as the middle act did and watch Batman versus the mob and a specific villain, because I really did enjoy the middle segment, I just found the beginning well crafted but not quite as interesting as the middle half and the final Scarecrow/Ra's piece a little too Hollywood.
I'm hoping Dark Knight will do this, now the origin has been done and the story can perhaps carry a little more story rather than character direction, and we'll see Gotham, the antagonist and Batman moving in a far more coherent and focused form.
So again, by NO way a bad film, but it was not a film I could get behind - as a Batman fan - as so many have done.
Master Toon
08-23-2008, 02:20 PM
South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut - It's like a lame extended episode of South Park. The only reason I watched it was because it was a family movie night that my family use to do. They all like it but I find it boring.
Transformers (Live action) - I'll admit that it's a very good looking movie. The way the autobots/decepticons were made and effects were made are pleasing to the eye but everything else falls flat. The writing is bad and the acting feels like most of the actors were just trying to hard. The way the autobots acted made me question their intelligence and some of the characters didn't make sense. Like the main fed guy or whatever, he was just trying TOO hard to be mean and the fat computer wiz guy's story doesn't make sense either. If you can hack into advanced security systems, why are you living with your grandmother? I haven't even begun to express all of the other flaws in this movie.
Shrek - It's not that I don't like Shrek, it's just that I don't go "ZOMG! I love Shrek" like other people do. It's ok but it's not all that.
Cloverfield - I can honestly say the hype was better than the entire movie. It's Blair Witch meets Godzilla.
The Dark Knight - I can't contain it any longer! I'm sorry but I just don't like it! I've seen it 3 times! Once on opening day, once with a friend who hadn't seen it and once to try to force myself to like it! I'm sorry but The Dark Knight just doesn't have the same effect on me as it does to you guys.
Cogliostro
08-24-2008, 01:04 AM
I don't need explosions. I enjoy non-action films. However, i do demand that movies have a plot and that the dialogue not be boring. Lost in translation had no plot to speak of what so ever.
Also, i dislike anything by Wes Anderson. His movies aren't in the least bit funny. What is with this idea that depressed people are funny.
Lost in Translation subtilely shows the disconnection people have from one another through various aspects in life: age, language, relationships (ect.) and the resulting affects of feeling lost. It connects with a realistic desire we all feel to be able to open up more with people and vice versa. Which makes the development and exploration of the companionship between the main characters all the more enjoyable.
Also Wes Anderson's films are not suppose to be just a comedy. It seems that either you miss tones, themes, messages that are not just skin deep or they do nothing for you.
I know you want to send a message in this thread that people don't have to just like a movie because the majority of other people do. But you also don't have to go against the grain either just because a majority of people like a film. It might seem to you, who might not like a film that receives a vast amount of praise that others must be liking it because everyone else does but there really are a large amount of fans that enjoy the films (such as The Godfather) for both entertainment and art.
I also really dislike anything by the coen brothers. JUST HORRIBLE!
Another filmmaker(s) that have a lot of hidden meanings, messages, themes, tones and leave things open for interpretation in their films. For really disliking them and their films you don't give any reasons or explain why.
Anarky
08-24-2008, 06:37 PM
Top Gun. I feel absolutely no empathy for Cruise's character. The video game was better the film and that's saying a lot considering the game itself was [expletive deleted].
Hobbes829
08-25-2008, 08:32 AM
I understand the concept of a multilayered film. Don't talk down to me. Lost in translation could have been brilliant, but that still doesn't make it any less of a horribly boring film.
House, not a movie, but a great show with characters that have many layers. Interesting psychology, but also great mysteries.
Your defense of the films that i don't enjoy is that they have hidden themes, meanings, etc. You basically called me shallow in a back handed way. I'm all for those things, but it has to be interesting on the surface. Why would i delve deeper into something that i find uninteresting.
Anything by Joss Whedon has layers, the difference between him, the cohens and wes anderson is that his stuff isn't boring.
I find cohen brother films to be boring. Example: The big lebowski. I only laughed once, and that had to do with the ashes being blown back into the dude's face (was it the dude or goodman, can't remember). The movie had no plot. He goes looking for a way to get his rug repaired, and the ending doesn't resolve what set the movie in motion in the first place. That's just bad writing.
As for going against the grain, i don't do it for the sake of going against it. I classic like films like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, 12 Angry Men, Pulp Fiction, Rocky, Alien. I just don't like the films that i watch to be pretentious.
GWOtaku
08-25-2008, 09:43 AM
I found Juno to be lethargic and lackluster. Though the issue it deals with is relevant, I find it very hard to believe that it was nominated for best picture. I just can't see anything remarkable about it. Also, that guitar music got very annoying. At the ending, I couldn't wait for it to be over.
Hanshotfirst113
08-25-2008, 11:48 AM
Top Gun. I feel absolutely no empathy for Cruise's character. The video game was better the film and that's saying a lot considering the game itself was [expletive deleted].
Top Gun is nothing more and nothing less than military hardware porn. It's glorification of our powerful capitalist might, as well as questionable values (i.e., selfish egotism is rewarded). The flying sequences are brilliant, but as with most Bruckheimer-produced movies, anytime something isn't blowing up, it's dull as can be. The politics that the movie is throwing around are quite frankly rather offensive, but that wouldn't be so bad if the movie wasn't incredibly boring, with uninteresting stock characters, and pointless beefcake. I've got nothing at all against mindless testosterone-fests (Transporter 2 and Deep Rising are major guilty pleasures), but the sin of Top Gun isn't that it's offensive or soulless or even stupid. It's boring. Stupid I can abide by. Boring is a problem. It did, however, give us this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW9YutYlUHo)(WARNING: Strong language!), which is probably the greatest thing ever, and a sight more interesting than the actual film.
Hobbes829
08-25-2008, 04:16 PM
not sure what capitalism and the military have in common. Ugh! I'm tired of people's anti-capitalist BS. Capitalism is the only social system which values human life. What's wrong with a man going after his values and being rewarded. If anyone deserves to be rewarded it's fighter pilots. I will admit i'm a little biased as my dad was a fighter pilot. But they are heroic people deserving of praise. Screw you and your anti-american rhetoric. You must not mind capitalism seeing as how you are on an internet forum. The internet was an american creation (no al gore jokes, they're too easy). Top Gun is a fun movie. Just one question though, why don't you sympathize with Maverick. He lost Goose. That's pretty sad to me.
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