UFO at WTC tragady? [Archive]

Calhoun07

02-27-2002, 05:34 PM

That is no more stupid than the pic posted on the Internet of satan's face in the smoke from the WTC fire.

and the translation site is bablefish. HAHA! I do believe that's a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, where people had to put a fish in their ear to get languages translated! Cool.

The Dork Knight

02-27-2002, 06:39 PM

I did'nt look at it, but I know for sure it is slea-z.

- Foley Is Good:D

Feslmogh

02-27-2002, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by Calhoun07
That is no more stupid than the pic posted on the Internet of satan's face in the smoke from the WTC fire.

Whatever that thing is, it's evil looking.... I've have an untouched video of it and it definatly have that "face" on there

ccffan01

02-27-2002, 07:09 PM

That was in poor taste.

Calhoun07

02-28-2002, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Feslmogh

Whatever that thing is, it's evil looking.... I've have an untouched video of it and it definatly have that "face" on there

Dude, I'm sorry if I step on your toes here, but how in the world could you believe that picture? I used to work at a grocery store years ago, and I saw that very same "Satan's face" pic integrated into other "untouched photos" on a dozen tabloids (the Sun or World Weekly News.) That pic was no more real than the pic of that man on top of the WTC when the plane was coming in.

Feslmogh

02-28-2002, 07:20 PM

Hey, will it help if I sent you the video file? I also got magazine covers that have that image of it!

You're not stepping on my toes, sometimes I don't belive what I see sometimes....

Jedigreedo

02-28-2002, 07:40 PM

The cameras that were upclose would've caught those objects much better than cameras from a distance. But no footage from the very upclose higher resolution cameras? Not too mention one of those animations if you look at the blast in the middle of the 2nd tower, it's all suposed to happen in a split second, easy to explain, film damage. Granted I do believe there could be other life out there, I highly doubt this considering there was nothing on those cameras before. Those were played over and over and over by the news stations, every single thing they could get their hands on to play they played several times.

The devil in the smoke thing, I haven't seen it, but just someone with photoshop could do that, it's just a little smudging work and such. Ever seen movie makers do that kind of trick? There ya go, easy.

Also on the guy on top of the building with the plane coming it, it was actually confirmed that the plane was added to the picture.

Alaskanbullworm

02-28-2002, 07:41 PM

Here's my view, some of those pics on the site seem to be birds flying across the scene. I know there are two pictures with the "devil" faces. One is when the second plane hit, for two seconds you can see a demon skull. The other picture is from a guy taken blocks away with a face climbing up the side of the building. Personally, I think that the lighting and shadowing was just right to cause those affects. They do look strange and real, but who will ever know.

James

02-28-2002, 08:50 PM

It's rubbish.

Simple logic.

If there was something, it would be seen as said, by a closer camera.

There is no point to the object and EVEN if it was there what is more likely?

A piece of debris/damaged lense/doctored film

OR

UFO from outer space come to help/observe the destruction of a building?

Purrrleaze... and people will believe it too..

We should stop talking about it - we are giving morons the publicity they require. (Someone lock the thread! :D)

As for the devils face... good lord, again people BELIEVE it has some significance!

Personally, I think it looks like the guy from down the street, there to promote his fish stall... course it is.... - but we are all entitled to our own opinion.. I suppose it could be the Devil laughing at the injustice of the world... course it is... despite no one having a CLUE what the devil would look like aside from the attempts to conjure a picture from their feeble imagination!

BLACKHEART

02-28-2002, 09:57 PM

Maybe the UFO's were the one's flying the planes? I'm not even going to bother looking.

Calhoun07

02-28-2002, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by Feslmogh
Hey, will it help if I sent you the video file? I also got magazine covers that have that image of it!

You're not stepping on my toes, sometimes I don't belive what I see sometimes....

I am really wondering if we are seeing the same thing. I am gonna do some research on this and come back and post what pic I am thinking of then we can see if we are talking about the same thing.

Alaskanbullworm

02-28-2002, 10:54 PM

If you want to see the "devil faces" go to http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~phineas/Images/wtc/devil/page_01.htm
The first one is fake, but the other two ARE real.

Calhoun07

02-28-2002, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Patrick Star
If you want to see the "devil faces" go to http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~phineas/Images/wtc/devil/page_01.htm
The first one is fake, but the other two ARE real.

Well, that's what I just found at snopes.com. And they are not real. How do I know? I've seen those exact images put in the smoke rising from pictures of Waco, Texas, the Oklaholma City bombing, and other recent events that the tabloids are trying to say are of Satan. And I mean the EXACT same image of the face in the smoke.

Failure

02-28-2002, 11:41 PM

I dunno, the UFO looks like Superman to me. And the devil faces look more like the Stay-Puff Marshmallow Man. :rolleyes:

Satan is actually supposed to be a devilishly handsome fella. (pun intended)

BLACKHEART

02-28-2002, 11:48 PM

The Devil is everywhere just not in that picture.

Calhoun07

02-28-2002, 11:57 PM

Actually, the devil can't be everywhere. That power belongs to the Higher Being. Not to wax philosophical, of course, but I hate to see Satan given more credit than he's worth. He's just a fallen angel who got a third of the angels in Heaven on his side, so he often gets credit when it's not deserved.

BLACKHEART

03-01-2002, 12:04 AM

I'll come back to this message in the morning when I'm awake and possibly sober. Let me ask you this, do you think evil surrounds us all?

Calhoun07

03-01-2002, 12:20 AM

Of course not. What ails the world is what we bring on ourselves.

BLACKHEART

03-01-2002, 12:25 AM

Fair enough many feel that I am evil. I am hated. I do think evil and madness surround us or maybe it's just me. I also think those photos are fake and in poor taste, even for me. I think I'll leave it at that. I try to avoid topics like this. No matter how I may act I at least know there's things that shouldn't be play with and this is one of them. When I first saw the image the day after I laughed. They didn't waste any time did they?

Failure

03-01-2002, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
Fair enough many feel that I am evil. I am hated.

I'm a little confused by this statement Slipknot. Have you committed an atrocity, an unforgiving crime? Have you ruined anyone's life intentionally? Or are you branded with this stigma because of the music you listen to or the way you dress or the people you hang with, etc?

There's a difference between evil and ignorance.

BLACKHEART

03-01-2002, 01:18 AM

All of the above.

Failure

03-01-2002, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
All of the above.

So... umm, are you saying you are evil?

I was just thinking that most people's perceptions about Slipknot and their fans are less than... angelic, so to speak.

BLACKHEART

03-01-2002, 01:24 AM

I am far from angelic, but now I have someone in my life and I've changed. I'm going to retire from this thread as it is about UFO's at the WTC and not my sins.

555

Failure

03-01-2002, 01:28 AM

Fair enough. My bad. I didn't mean to pry or anything. I was just wondering about that original statement which I singled out.

This has gotten off topic, soooo no I don't think those are satan's face in the pics. Actually, people see whatever they want to see, so I suppose it's up to each person to decide for themselves. Geez, I had no intention to post anything in this thread in the first place. I don't even know how I got drawn into it. :confused: I'm also leaving this thread.

MAXIMUS

03-01-2002, 01:34 AM

Thats almost as bad as that time some women thought the stain on her window was the Virgin Mary for gods sake lol

James

03-01-2002, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
I'll come back to this message in the morning when I'm awake and possibly sober. Let me ask you this, do you think evil surrounds us all?

As i've said before, Evil is a subjective concept - the opinion of whats 'evil' differs between each of us.

You can say what you find is good or bad - or even what is non productive and productive. But an actual force which is 'evil'.. no. One man's evil is another mans good.
The concept is full of human arroagance and indulgence.

I think understanding and ignorance are better simple and more appropriate concepts to living rather than the overly simplistic good and evil.

Feslmogh

03-01-2002, 09:06 AM

http://www.ab2m.net/wtc/video/original/

The name is "2ndCrashFrontView.mpg"

Lucky Bob

03-01-2002, 12:05 PM

Just another website full of UFO weirdos.

Nightflower

03-01-2002, 12:27 PM

Evil is often the product of human selfishness, not a cosmological riddle. That's what I think anyway.

As for the devil in the smoke.... sometimes I see camels in clouds, but I don't think the camel god is trying to speak to me...

Calhoun07

03-01-2002, 12:32 PM

I sure wish I could find the pics I was talking about that the tabloids used for Waco and Oklaholma and others. "Devil smoke image" doesn't result in much of anything I need in search engines, unfortunately.

Feslmogh

03-01-2002, 01:05 PM

http://image.pathfinder.com/time/daily/newsfiles/waco/images/waco.jpg

Is this the Image you're trying to find?

Here's a link that has "several" pics of that face plus a few others of WTC...
Believe what you will...

http://www.almostaproverb.com/facesinsmoke.html

After you get tired of seeing those pics, I would like you to invite you all my my WTC photo site...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Images_of_WTC/

Jedigreedo

03-01-2002, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Nightflower
Evil is often the product of human selfishness, not a cosmological riddle. That's what I think anyway.

As for the devil in the smoke.... sometimes I see camels in clouds, but I don't think the camel god is trying to speak to me...

I once saw a cloud formation of some dude with a cape wrestling with another dude, looked like Batman or Superman. :D Didn't have any ears so I'm guessing it was Superman. :cool:

Technically though, there could've been a "devil" face in the smoke, just depends on how you see it, kinda like looking at an inkblot, but usually when someone is able to get a picture of it's been modified with a program in a photoeditor.

The Dark Knight

03-01-2002, 04:29 PM

Unless the devil is some guy with photoshop, I'm going to say that's not a real devil face. I really hope the world doesn't end tomorrow cause then I'll sure look like an idiot.

Calhoun07

03-01-2002, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Feslmogh
http://image.pathfinder.com/time/daily/newsfiles/waco/images/waco.jpg

Is this the Image you're trying to find?

No, but I appreciate you looking! The pics I am trying to find are strikingly like the WTC pics you posted but the devil's face (and I am telling you it's the exact same face) was in the smoke at the other news making events that involved something bad and fire. They were plastered on the cover of World Weekly News, the tabloid you find in the grocery store, and also the Sun, which is much like WWN, may have had them as well.

Feslmogh

03-04-2002, 08:43 AM

That pic I posted seemaly(sic) has a face in the fire...

Even though we don't know what the evil one looks like, we all know the attack was evil, however you look at it.

I don't trust the tabloids but the face did appear on the CNN video of the second crash for a few seconds so I know it wasn't doctored.