How about an "Ask B.T." FAQ page in WF?

[Wolf Boy2]

Bruce Timm has given so much information about the DCAU in his forum posts, so I think it would be a good idea to compile some of his quotes into an Ask BT page for the World's Finest (not unlike the Ask Greg page that exists for Gargoyles fans).

Surely there are enough Timm quotes around the Internet to pull that off.

[Stu]

Ask Greg's page isn't a collection of quotes - it's Greg responding to questions personally.

A thread like that would be choas here. Can you imagine the sheer responses that a thread like that would receive, not to mention how utterly fanboyish some of them would be? We asked people to stop posting questions to him in threads because of the sheer amount he was getting (well that, and Timm himself is legendary for completely derailing subject topics, to the point where he got his own emoticon to cement his status.)

That, and in all honesty, I doubt he has the time/will power to anwser them all. We struggle to get ahold of him for site/news interviews!

[Wolf Boy2]

Ask Greg's page isn't a collection of quotes - it's Greg responding to questions personally.

A thread like that would be choas here. Can you imagine the sheer responses that a thread like that would receive, not to mention how utterly fanboyish some of them would be? We asked people to stop posting questions to him in threads because of the sheer amount he was getting (well that, and Timm himself is legendary for completely derailing subject topics, to the point where he got his own emoticon to cement his status.)

That, and in all honesty, I doubt he has the time/will power to anwser them all. We struggle to get ahold of him for site/news interviews!
I was referring to the "Ask Greg" FAQ for the really common questions and its managed by someone else (not Weisman). Go to the website, he doesn't answer the cliche ones.

http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/faq.php

Since newbies often have the same questions to ask over and over, an official FAQ with Timm quotes could actually be used to curb the needless questioning.

I never expected him to be able to answer everyone's questions, as the DCAU has a lot bigger fanbase and more to ask questions about than Gargoyles.

[DerekPowers]

That, and in all honesty, I doubt he has the time/will power to anwser them all. We struggle to get ahold of him for site/news interviews!
I think Wolf Boy2 was suggesting using the posts the great Mr. Timm already posted, to answer qs. Like, just find all his responses to qs so far and organize them into like an official fact sheet. That way, Mr. Timm wouldnt have to do anything.

Its not a bad idea. I guess its really something for the mods or site managers to decide if they want to spend the time doing that.

[Nightwing]

It's only slightly easier for a poster with a question to do the searching through the forum by himself/herself. I know, because I've done this recently when I had a question of my own, and I wanted to verify from a past conversation.

The idea certainly works in theory, but Mr. Timm has a lot of posts as time went on, and I don't know of any human being that could go through, organize, catalogue, and present them.

[maxnugget]

I think the value would be less in answering people's questions and more just the fact that Timm has shared a lot of really fascinating stuff with us on the forum that DCAU fans would find interesting.

On the other hand I feel there's something...improper about taking all the stuff he's said in conversation with us in the forums, pulling them out of the community context and cataloging it on a web page (or even a sticky thread). Can't quite put my finger on it but it somehow feels like a breach of trust to do that. I know the forums are public but I feel like it's still inappropriate to do in a sense. If we were to do that to one of the non-celebrity TZ members here I think it would make them uncomfortable, to say the least.

[Bird Boy]

I think the value would be less in answering people's questions and more just the fact that Timm has shared a lot of really fascinating stuff with us on the forum that DCAU fans would find interesting.

On the other hand I feel there's something...improper about taking all the stuff he's said in conversation with us in the forums, pulling them out of the community context and cataloging it on a web page (or even a sticky thread). Can't quite put my finger on it but it somehow feels like a breach of trust to do that. I know the forums are public but I feel like it's still inappropriate to do in a sense. If we were to do that to one of the non-celebrity TZ members here I think it would make them uncomfortable, to say the least.

Yeah, I just thought this might be a good idea, but I do agree on the inappropriateness of it all. It seems more like taking what someone said in passing and making it as fact. Not that it wouldn't be true, but I highly doubt people type things on this forum to be the be all and end all for their thoughts on certain subjects. As well written and thought out as many posters make their posts here, it still has an impromptu nature about it all.

So yeah. It'd be cool, but unless it's something we coordinated with Mr. Timm on directly, it's not something I'd feel comfortable putting on WF. It'd seem kinda...tabloidy or something.

-BB

[Yojimbo]

I was compiling quotes of Bruce Timm and Dwayne McDuffie for a page on my site. I did notice how a couple 100 of his first posts aren't there so unless it's archived, Karkull is probably the only person to have them. I think it'd be useful for fans to see instead of stalking him on the Members List. It interesting that years after reading Modern Marvels, that he confirmed on tz that he still can't draw horses for squat. ;)

[maxnugget]

I think it'd be useful for fans to see instead of stalking him on the Members List.


But I think stalking him on the members list is the right way to do it if you really want to read through posts he's made :). Anything he said should be viewed in the context of the conversations he's had here, and to put his posts in a form that's too easily accessible to people who are not regular members here sort of goes against the spirit of the community imho. Like Bird Boy said, people don't say things here with the expectation that they're going to appear in compilations like these. The few extra steps and effort it takes to go searching through old threads gives people a certain sense of comfort that they're talking in a semi-closed circle rather than broadcasting to the world.

This is much like the debates people now have on public records that were appropriate to keep in the past but have become "too accessible" in the age of Google. Since they are technically public records there's no way to stop people from making them easily available using the latest technology, but in many cases the parties involved choose not to. In this case it's up to the community (or the mods, to an extent) to decide what to do with previous posts, and what I'm saying is that I don't think it's fair to b.t. nor is it in the best interest of the community since we don't want to create an environment where guests (especially one Bacon Tomato!) feel like things they say here are going to be collected and re-published in other, overly-accessible formats.

Having said that I do hope the archives of these forums are well-preserved. I've got a lot of memories in there :sweat:

[Donomark]

I've never ever seen Dwayne McDuffie post here. I've seen Matt Wayne, and even Paul Dini once.

[ichormosquito]

Maxnugget and Bird Boy are right: compiling his posts isn't what a responsible website should be doing. Wikipedia prohibits the sourcing of forum posts for similar reasons, while still allowing blog entries, deeming the former to be significantly less formal than the latter.

[Donomark]

Okay, now I've seen McDuffie's posts, and I can see why he hasn't posted in three years. Everybody seemed to wanna pick a fight with him. "Token Black Guy?" WTH's wrong with you people?!

[Wolf Boy2]

Okay, now I've seen McDuffie's posts, and I can see why he hasn't posted in three years. Everybody seemed to wanna pick a fight with him. "Token Black Guy?" WTH's wrong with you people?!
They said WHAT?:eek:

McDuffie is no token, he's the best damn writer the DCAU ever had! Don't get me wrong, I love Paul Dini and Hillary Bader, but McDuffie still pwns their butts on his worst day. Also, Dini's last two scripts for JLU were pretty lame ("This Little Piggy" and "Far From Home").

Also, if it's improper to repost Timm's candid statements, I still think an FAQ page with his official interview and commentary statements is a good idea. Surely it can't be improper to compile those.

[Toddman]

McDuffie is no token, he's the best damn writer the DCAU ever had! Don't get me wrong, I love Paul Dini and Hillary Bader, but McDuffie still pwns their butts on his worst day. Also, Dini's last two scripts for JLU were pretty lame ("This Little Piggy" and "Far From Home").


I don't know that Mr. McDuffie himself would actually agree with that:


See, that's going too far the other way...I don't think there's such a thing as a "McDuffie" episode. All of the shows are a group effort. As always, four or five people worked closely on the story and script, contributing to varying degrees plot elements, structure and dialogue.


Toddman

[Wolf Boy2]

I don't know that Mr. McDuffie himself would actually agree with that.
McDuffie is rightfully humble. Though I have to dissagree. If it is because of the team, and not McDuffie, than the team worked extra hard in stories that were credited to him.:p

IMO.

[screw on head]

Given how this thread is straying from its initial topic its time for a close.

In regards to Dwayne McDuffie, I'm gonna post a message here from Bird Boy, whose internet has been spotty as of late:

Wow, please don't bring that up again. That whole thing was a giant mess that spread across his forum and ours. He chose not to post here anymore because of a link to a faux interview someone posted and the responses some of the forum members posted because of it. Believe me, both McDuffie and WF/TZ have put that to bed long ago.

You can't exactly go into the forum history and get the full context of the situation, as links have been removed so as to not offend.

-BB

Anyone who wants to inquire further about this (long since closed) past incident, please PM either James Harvey or Bird Boy. Thanks!