C&C - Venture Bros. - "Invisible Hand of Fate" [6/15]

[Space Cadet]

The good news for Venture Bros. fans is that the first episode of this season did very well in the ratings. It had 884,000 18-34 year olds and 1,829,000 2+ viewers. Keep it up. Also, this is the first episode of Season 3 in production order. Tune in on Sunday at 11:30 PM Eastern.

Broadcast Episode: Season 3, Episode 3
Production Episode: Season 3, Episode 1

[tucsoncoyote]

And yes it is up on Adult swim. I got to see it and right now I'm going to "De-"spoilerize it..

Please do not be alarmed. We are about to engage..."The Nozzle".
Please do not move while "The Nozzle" is engaging. Moving will disrupt calibration of..."The Nozzle".
Please wait while we calibrate..."The Nozzle".
Please do not look away from.."The Nozzle".
"The Nozzle" is now calibrating... "The Nozzle" is still calibrating...
"The Nozzle" has completed calibration....Thank you.:lol:

Alright let's just say we get :

A lot more backstory here.. a Lot more.. complete with why Billy got his hand, and his eye, How Phantom Limb was created, not to mention a more homely Dr. Girlfriend! A godawful Myra before she was removed from Venture's service, And the funniest G.I.Joe Spoof EVER! Plus a special guest appearance by a certain someone..(Spot him and win.. The Nozzle!

This is a must see! and again..Thank you

For using..."The Nozzle".

:coyote:

[Draft]

Now if the other 2 backstory eps were this good, I wouldn't've complained

sans the nozzle thing, which I found annoying, this was really great. The bqackstory of Quizboy I thoguht was gonna be bad, but it turned out great. O.S.I. Joe was great. Not to mention how it explained wat happened to the boys' mom, how Brock went to work for Dr.Venture, and how Phantom Limb became the way he was

[tucsoncoyote]

Now if the other 2 backstory eps were this good, I wouldn't've complained

sans the nozzle thing, which I found annoying, this was really great. The bqackstory of Quizboy I thoguht was gonna be bad, but it turned out great. O.S.I. Joe was great. Not to mention how it explained wat happened to the boys' mom, how Brock went to work for Dr.Venture, and how Phantom Limb became the way he was

Well I died laughing at..

The Nozzle sequence.

I mean it's downright hilarious..It's almost as funny as Master Shake's The Drizzle spoof.

coincidence? I think not!
:coyote:

[Rud]

I dont know what all this recent backstory is building up to, but i have a feeling this show is going to make an epic turn of events soon, EPIC.

now, when the hell i thes Underbite backstory going to get here!?

[garfield15]

The nozzle looks into your soul

Most likely something different is going to happen but so far I'm pretty sure I can divide the seasons up like this

Season 1: Introductory arc
Season 2: Betrayal arc
Season 3: Revelations arc

Anyone agree? (this is the best re-collection episodes ever)

"Wow I had the weirdest dre...Oh you bastards!"

[Draft]

now, when the hell i thes Underbite backstory going to get here!?
That was in the first ep of the season. It turns out Teenage Greaser Monarch caused his jaw to be torn off trying to kill Dr.Venture

[Rud]

That was in the first ep of the season. It turns out Teenage Greaser Monarch caused his jaw to be torn off trying to kill Dr.Venture

yeah i know, what i meant was more around the lines of how he got to be the villain he is today.

[Sandoz]

Another great episode. I wasn't really sold on the idea of learning the "real" origins for Phantom Limb and Billy (since the possible origins in "Victor Echo November" were all hilarious) but they found a way to make it funny and interesting and connected to the larger Venture Bros. mythos. The OSI/GI Joe/Village People bit was the definite highlight.


yeah i know, what i meant was more around the lines of how he got to be the villain he is today.
Jackson Publick has said that Underbheit won't be showing up at all this season. Since he pretty much is a "Dimestore Doctor Doom" he probably wouldn't have such an interesting backstory anyway.

[Neo Ultra Mike]

I'm a really big fan of continuity and all as well as world building, and I appreciate the Venture Brothers filling in some of the wholes of the backstory of the characters and making them connect in some pretty interesting ways. Still though, perhaps having so many flashback episodes back to back isn't a good thing. Espically since this was a full on flashback one, unlike even in the Season premiere which at least made it a retrospective while stuff going on in the present. Still though this wasn't bad or anything since like I said interesting stuff on how Billy and Pete White met, how Billy lost his hand and his eye, on how Brock and Gathers were investigating the Guild (obviously for some reason we'll find out about in another flashback they went more above ground with they're activities then they were in the past), how Myra was fired as Dr. Venture's bodyguard and how Brock was accepted, the start of Phantom Limb/Dr. Girlfriend (the female student talking to Phantomous before Billy) and yeah the evil accident that made Phantom Limb the supervillian he is ("Victo Echo November's" dramaitizations were sort of on, and hey it actually fills in the plothole on why Billy wouldn't remember how he lost his arm actually). In truth though there weren't a terrible load of laughs compared to other episodes. I did like the kid calling out Billy's cheating, the OSI/GI Joe parody (though kind of ruined by the trailer) and Gathers calling them Village People ripoffs, Gathers wanting to switch side to see more cows in the car ride, the undergorund dog fight, Dr. Venture sending away Pete and Billy, Billy asking about the nossil, the freak song being internally interrupted, Gathers yelling at Billy in the car ride and the ending where Billy attacked Brock after remembering more on what happened. There were more lull spots then I would of wanted and though the plot was interesting I could of done with more actual humor instead of just filling in story holes. Overall pretty good though in truth I'm noping for a more "wacky" Doc Hammer script that perhaps isn't as full of continiuty but full of more laughs and wacky situations with these characters since you can only take so much backstory in a show. Then again like "Assassinanny 911" This could be one of those episodes I need to see again to really appreciate since I didn't particually find that one funny one it's first run through

[Anyone00]

A lot more backstory here.. a Lot more.. complete with why Billy got his hand, and his eye, How Phantom Limb was created, not to mention a more homely Dr. Girlfriend! A godawful Myra before she was removed from Venture's service, And the funniest G.I.Joe Spoof EVER! Plus a special guest appearance by a certain someone..(Spot him and win.. The Nozzle!
:coyote:

Gay Bigfoot loving bionic man parody.

Billy owned Brock:eek:

[creativerealms]

There is an error in these flashbacks. In the Monarch Flashback episode Phantom Limb was already the Phantom Limb when Myra was still Venture's Body Guard, and quite sane too. Yet here he does not become the Phantom Limb until after that point when she was taken away by force and Brock becomes Venture's bodyguard. It seems to be a big hole for episodes written too close together.

[Rud]

There is an error in these flashbacks. In the Monarch Flashback episode Phantom Limb was already the Phantom Limb when Myra was still Venture's Body Guard, and quite sane too. Yet here he does not become the Phantom Limb until after that point when she was taken away by force and Brock becomes Venture's bodyguard. It seems to be a big hole for episodes written too close together.

well, this is what i think, there were alot of flashbacks in the monarch episode.

the flashback where Myra appears happens way before the Monarch even officialy joined the guild, or even knew it or phantom limb existed, and since he wasnt mentioned in that particular flashback theres no way to know if he was the Phantom limb yet or not.

im going to go on a limb and say that his flashback with Myra happens before the flashback this episode, therefore theres not plot hole, if im right.

[creativerealms]

well, this is what i think, there were alot of flashbacks in the monarch episode.

the flashback where Myra appears happens way before the Monarch even officialy joined the guild, or even knew it or phantom limb existed, and since he wasnt mentioned in that particular flashback theres no way to know if he was the Phantom limb yet or not.

im going to go on a limb and say that his flashback with Myra happens before the flashback this episode, therefore theres not plot hole, if im right.

Good point the Flash Backs in the Monarch episode happen all over the place so it is possible that said attack on Dr. Venture was before the birth of the Phantom Limb.

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Eh it's not really that hard to figure out actually. The Flashback of The Monarch trying to destroy Dr. Venture are ones that happen BEFORE Phantom Limb's accident, since he's recounting his history with Dr. Venture which happened before any of history with Dr. Girlfriend or Phantom Limb. If I were to guess most of the flashback here happens after The Monarch flashbacks of "Shadowman 9" but before the Dr. Girlfriend flashbacks about her, Phantom Limb and The Monarch. If there are more flashback eps (hopefully further down the season) It would paint a clearer picture of what's happening but it all makes sense continuity wise actually.

[Beefy]

An interesting look into the origin of the Phantom Limb.

I noticed they were scratching off Richard Impossible's name from the door of the Science Dept. office. Me wonders if we'll be seeing him this season.

[Draft]

An interesting look into the origin of the Phantom Limb.

I noticed they were scratching off Richard Impossible's name from the door of the Science Dept. office. Me wonders if we'll be seeing him this season.
According do Jackson Publicks (I totally messed that up), Stephen Colbert will not be returning to voice Mr.Impossible this season, so the character shouldn't have a speaking role during the season

[btv]

I thought the funniest line of the episode was about a student getting an automatic 4.0 in school for the semester if his/her roommate kicks the bucket.

The second best part was when 'The Boy Genius' started singing about his new school surroundings, but then it just cut off to something else.

Question though, and I hate to nitpick, but how can someone remember something that he wasn't in the room to witness? This episode kept doing that, and it was rubbing me the wrong way. :anime:

That being said, I did like this episode more then the first two, and I like the mythology that the series is wrapping around itself.

[Kazuya Prower]

I like this flashback. The Phantom Limb's origin was interesting and this confirms that Myra is Hank and Dean's mom.

[Kitschensyngk]

Explains which story of how Phantom Limb gained invisible arms in Victor Echo November is true.

"Invisible hand" of fate. Coincidental choice of words?

Loved the O.S.I.-G.I. Joe parody.

"The Village People called--and they want you to fxxxing kill yourselves!"


Question though, and I hate to nitpick, but how can someone remember something that he wasn't in the room to witness? This episode kept doing that, and it was rubbing me the wrong way. :anime:

I think it was more of a general backstory than somebody's flashback.

Thank you. This has been The Nozzle.

[Space Cadet]

Well, Billy was mauled easily by that dog.

[Paul_Cousins]

This episode was the MOTHER LOAD Of flashback episodes. It answered about every question I had about the Venture Brothers' Cast history. :cool:

The major revelation in the mix of major revelations was that the OSI is controled by the Guild of C. :eek:

If you think about it, in the OSI structure compared to the Justice League in the DCAU, then Brock would be the Question's sidekick. Very cool. :sweat:

[PickHut]

This wasn't a funny episode. The only thing that kinda made me chuckle was the G.I. Joe parody. As a plot heavy-based episode, though, it was pretty nice. You get to see a couple of backstories, as well as several events connecting to each other that put people where they're at today.

Now, as long as they don't do a ton more plot-heavy episodes this season where the comedy takes a backseat, I'm fine.

[Gamaoi]

This episode was 500% better than last weeks. Really loved it.

[Temple Fugate]

I suppose I'm in the minority that I never really ever cared what the backstory to Venture Bros. was. I never cared in season one, I don't care now. The general premise was all I needed to enjoy the show. Monarch and Venture had some kind of past that caused them to be rivals, Rusty's childhood was marred by Dr. Venture's success and pompousness, etc.

This episode was good. It was well-written. Well-acted. But I didn't laugh once. Considering I used to laugh at least twice per minute at this show, I'm starting to realize I need to face the truth that Venture Bros. has become a different kind of show than what I saw in season one.

I'll still be watching, and I'll still be enjoying it, but it will always be missing the true inanity that made the first season so interesting.

[Paul_Cousins]

I suppose I'm in the minority that I never really ever cared what the backstory to Venture Bros. was. I never cared in season one, I don't care now. The general premise was all I needed to enjoy the show. Monarch and Venture had some kind of past that caused them to be rivals, Rusty's childhood was marred by Dr. Venture's success and pompousness, etc.

This episode was good. It was well-written. Well-acted. But I didn't laugh once. Considering I used to laugh at least twice per minute at this show, I'm starting to realize I need to face the truth that Venture Bros. has become a different kind of show than what I saw in season one.

I'll still be watching, and I'll still be enjoying it, but it will always be missing the true inanity that made the first season so interesting.Well look at it this way.

The Venture Brothers series could have gone two directions after the first season final. It could have delved deeper and created backstories to give the series a more richer enviroment. Or the series should have just gone for more and more cornery jokes until the series literally went into the toilet.

I am glad the producers of the VB series choose the former because I have seen series that choose the latter and if never ended well for the fans.

[Sandoz]

Was that Guild Operative who assigned Brock to the Venture Compound Sgt. Hatred? It sounded like him.



I'll still be watching, and I'll still be enjoying it, but it will always be missing the true inanity that made the first season so interesting.
I think an albino and a one-eyed, one-handed kid genius touring the country on a Vespa and betting money on underground "Quizboy" matches is pretty inane, even if it is part of a larger backstory. Different strokes, different folks, I guess.

[HEATXZ]

The best part of this episode is....The Nozzle

[Zeonic Freak]

So this entire season is basicly layed out as doing flashbacks from the previous 2 seasons. Last season was the start (along with the college flashback in season one), and so far ive been laughing at all the refrences. Soriyama did Phantom arms with his design (which is the same design on Quiz Boy), how the OSI is the SHIELD and GI Joe in one, how Dr Girlfriend was Phantoms students (which would explain the relationship), and how Brock was transfered over to replace Doc Venture old bodyguard after what happend with Phantom.

So far, we have seen the background to The Monarch/Guild of Calamitious Intent, the relationship between Dr Girlfriend/ Phantom Limb/ Monarch, and now this weeks episode.

Pretty much all i can see thats left is i guess how Baron Underbeiht got to power after college and how he got to be in the Guild (well he is of royalty, that kinda defeats the purpose), a more detailed history of the Guild, maybe a BG on Monarchs henchmen 21 and 24, Brocks mentor coming back (since Brock didnt kill him in the episode "Assasinanny 911") and something else im forgetting. Its late, and i need to get up in the morn for a math lab and test to study/take in the afternoon, i swear i cant type right (thank god for the backspace button). Night...

[danreyes1]

Is it just me, or does it seem that they've wanted to tell more story, but ran out of time in all the episodes thus far? Maybe they're leading up to something.

[Paul_Cousins]

Is it just me, or does it seem that they've wanted to tell more story, but ran out of time in all the episodes thus far? Maybe they're leading up to something.You're probably right and we might get an epic multi part episode. :cool:

[Blackscarz]

Out of the three episodes that aired so far, this is bar none, my favorite. I didn't like the first ep. of the season as much as I thought I would. It was a decent episode but after watching "Showdown at Cremation Creek" I grew tired of the Monarch and Dr. Girl friend shenanigans. I was afraid that the later episodes would follow suit, somewhat funny, and lets be honest, a bit boring.

"The Doctor is Sin" and now "The Invisible Hand of Fate" was so good I watched them multiple times on adultswim's website. Maybe because both eps. starred four of my favorite side characters, Brock's Mentor/Father/Boss/Shemale, The Phantom Limb, Henry Killinger and of course his magic murder bag.

I feel like such a dork, because I'm pretty sure I can quote each and every line by now. I would quote The Phantom Lim...Oh I'm sorry, Prof. Fantomas but every time I hear him speak, I get the sudden urge to pull out a dictionary. So instead here's my second favorite line:

"Cheating is what the spy business is all about. Why, if we don't keep our eyes on our neighbors paper the bad guys get the bomb and the whole world goes ka-blooie! You keep thinking you're here on the G.I. bill or something, kid...You're in the Office of Secret Intelligence! You Damn, Dirty, Little Cry Baby, FREAK!"

Lets face the "The Nozzle" isn't funny anymore.

[tucsoncoyote]

The best part of this episode is....The Nozzle

The Nozzle is your friend!
Be sure not to look away from... The Nozzle!
The Nozzle is still Calibrating..
The Nozzle is finally Calibrated..
Thank you...

And for those who did not get the reference I was refering to in the OSI segment.. it was Race Bannon...(Are those guys Razzing you Gathers?)

Brock: Oh! Oh! Cemetery! You lose all your cows!

:lol: :lol: :lol:.... The Nozzle...

Oh and for those of you wondering.. I have a feeling that next week's episode will deal with:

Okay at first I thought maybe we'd get a back story on Doctor Orpheus and his former Order of the triad bunch, but read my next post.. It explains everything!

But that's what I am guessing for next week it'll be 'that' back story..
:coyote:

[warnerbroman]

I like continuity and all but will the season be nothing but flashbacks I 'd rather watch naruto

[tucsoncoyote]

Well after watching this episode a fourth time, I finally figured something out that ties in with next Week's episode and in fact it's in this episode that you see something that does tie in to next week's story... Here it is:

Okay near the end of this episode you see the guy who gives Sampson his body guard duties for Rusty Venture. Now interestingly enough this guy puts on a Guild of Calamatous Intent Ring on his finger..and looks at it..This brings up what I saw earlier in the teaser for next week's episode when the Monarch and Dr. Girlfriend talk about Sargent Hatred and his Hover Tank as well as the Party the Sargent is throwing. So now this ties into this week's episode by having the following thing happen, name The Guild of Calamatous Intent has slipped a "Mole" (Namely the guy who replaced Colonel Gathers and replaced him and gave Sampson his marching orders to bodyguard for Venture). He's really Sargent Hatred in disguise and he works for the OSI as a Guild of Calamatous Intent "Inside man" aka 'a Mole'! :eek: How's that for a freakin' Twist? So the next flashback will deal with how the Monarch and Sargent Hatred first crossed paths, or how Sargent Hatred was "Slipped" into the OSI as a Mole to gather intelligence for the Guild to see how much the OSI knows, and I think we'll see more development in the Phantom Limb Arc as well.

Just my thoughts and observations on this.

:coyote:

[Silverstar]

All of this backstory we've been getting so far this season is informative, but some more laughs here and there would be nice. This season so far just hasn't been very funny; it's almost as if Jackson Public and company are actually starting to take their creation seriously. I'd hate to see Venture Brothers become the exact same sort of overblown action saga that they originally set out to parody.

[Zeonic Freak]

Well after watching this episode a fourth time, I finally figured something out that ties in with next Week's episode and in fact it's in this episode that you see something that does tie in to next week's story... Here it is:

Okay near the end of this episode you see the guy who gives Sampson his body guard duties for Rusty Venture. Now interestingly enough this guy puts on a Guild of Calamatous Intent Ring on his finger..and looks at it..This brings up what I saw earlier in the teaser for next week's episode when the Monarch and Dr. Girlfriend talk about Sargent Hatred and his Hover Tank as well as the Party the Sargent is throwing. So now this ties into this week's episode by having the following thing happen, name The Guild of Calamatous Intent has slipped a "Mole" (Namely the guy who replaced Colonel Gathers and replaced him and gave Sampson his marching orders to bodyguard for Venture). He's really Sargent Hatred in disguise and he works for the OSI as a Guild of Calamatous Intent "Inside man" aka 'a Mole'! :eek: How's that for a freakin' Twist? So the next flashback will deal with how the Monarch and Sargent Hatred first crossed paths, or how Sargent Hatred was "Slipped" into the OSI as a Mole to gather intelligence for the Guild to see how much the OSI knows, and I think we'll see more development in the Phantom Limb Arc as well.

Just my thoughts and observations on this.

:coyote:

Makes since after i had to reread your statement a few times to tie in the pieces. Yea tuson, this series is huge on Johnny Quest parodies, which is one of the major insperations for this series.

I was thinking about all the flashbacks/and tie ins this series has, and it wouldnt surprise me if this season ended on a huge cliffhanger, i mean BIG. I take it this season is a set up for next season, and im sure everything will tie in and end on the 4th season.

This show has become from a comedic 1 sided story to a animated comic book series. Every charactor and every story plays on stories and plots on other comic books like how marvel and DC characters went to the same college, VB plays this out too. There is so much indepth in this series now that the producers can take this in any dark way they want to, which is just awesome. From the way im looking at it, it seems Phantom Limb is now the major villian and i bet you can see the Monarch and Rusty team up to stop Phantom in the coming episodes, or next season.

There still more background on charactor tie ins, like the Impossible family (or how they met and a refrence to how Mr Impossible and Rusty knew each other in college), Doctor Orpheus as tuson said, how Brock and Phantom seem to be on neutral terms and respect each other, how and why The Monarch hates Rusty so much, a refrence to the girl who bodyguarded Rusty in the OSI, and more that i thought up last night that i cant remember now.

This season just keeps getting better and better...

[Paul_Cousins]

There still more background on charactor tie ins, like the Impossible family (or how they met and a refrence to how Mr Impossible and Rusty knew each other in college), Doctor Orpheus as tuson said, how Brock and Phantom seem to be on neutral terms and respect each other, how and why The Monarch hates Rusty so much, a refrence to the girl who bodyguarded Rusty in the OSI, and more that i thought up last night that i cant remember now.

This season just keeps getting better and better...That was covered. Mr. Impossible was one of Rusty's teachers in college.

[TacoHunter]

I don't know why some people are saying its not funny anymore. To be fair, its still hilarious. Its just that it also has a lot of back story. Maybe you just need to rewatch it, to see all the jokes, 'cause there is still a lot of them.

Like how cheating plagues Billy, I thought that was a pretty good running gag, and even tied in to the main story really well.

[Angilasman]

I think the show is not only still funny, but this may have been one of the funniest what with the double-acts of Billy/White and Brock/Hunter operating at full capacity.


This show is so much better than it has any right to be. Hope the ratings stay high!

[warnerbroman]

anyone loved "THE NOZZLE"!?

[Rud]

i dint realy get the "Nozzle" joke.

[Angilasman]

I loved that Hunter didn't even know what was up with the Nozzle.

I don't care if he dissappeared to enjoy his life as a woman, Hunter needs to be back as a main character.

[garfield15]

i dint realy get the "Nozzle" joke.

I don't think it really meant anything, I think it was there just to be funny.

It's funny when you look at this show and realize that there is this huge, gigantic epic backstory that we, the viewer have only just begun to realize...and then you realize that the last episode had a gay G.I.Joe parody and a guy with one eye and hand...and there is an albino in this show.

This show is a Comedy Epic and I hope it keeps going for years to come.

Just my thought but was last week the only time we ever got to see what Killinger's "magic murder bag" actually...you know...does? I mean we all know it killed people but last week was the first time we actually saw it do something right?

[tucsoncoyote]

I think the show is not only still funny, but this may have been one of the funniest what with the double-acts of Billy/White and Brock/Hunter operating at full capacity.


This show is so much better than it has any right to be. Hope the ratings stay high!

If not, then we'll get OSI's "Nozzle" onto those who think that the show isn't funny.

But seriously I have been looking at this and in fact I think one thing that was talked about over the last two seasons but hasn't been looked at is in fact: Sargent Hatred and his Hover tank

I mean we've heard this joke about how this person and his equipment has been mentioned on at least 5 or 6 seperate times during the first 26 episodes, We see him show up in the first part of Showdown at Cremation Creek, But now I feel they are going to explain about this character and in fact why he became what he did.

Of course seeing last night's episode and the teaser for next week now makes me think that this next week we'll finally get to perhaps one of the best secrets that the Guild of Calamatous Intent has.. Namely this guy.

I feel once we get his back story out of the way, and how maybe he and the Monarch crossed paths, might give us something to think about..

And another character we haven't seen a back story is in fact the Monarch's prison mate in Season 2 namely King Gorilla. Let's face it there has to be a backstory here somewhere on this character as well..

Also did anyone note what Fantamos said to Billy about his hand?

It was a design based off of some of Mike Soriyama's work.

So it makes me wonder... will we see him as well? (After all Twain said it best... the reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated).

But again these are just some random thoughts I'm throwing out here.

:coyote:

[Paul_Cousins]

I don't think it really meant anything, I think it was there just to be funny.

It's funny when you look at this show and realize that there is this huge, gigantic epic backstory that we, the viewer have only just begun to realize...and then you realize that the last episode had a gay G.I.Joe parody and a guy with one eye and hand...and there is an albino in this show.

This show is a Comedy Epic and I hope it keeps going for years to come.

Just my thought but was last week the only time we ever got to see what Killinger's "magic murder bag" actually...you know...does? I mean we all know it killed people but last week was the first time we actually saw it do something right?After watching this episode, I am starting to wonder if Brock is the only straight hetrosexual man in the entire OSI organization.

Of course, Albino is probably the only guy who ever called Brock, "Goldilox", and lived. I wonder who choose that code name.

[tucsoncoyote]

After watching this episode, I am starting to wonder if Brock is the only straight hetrosexual man in the entire OSI organization.

Of course, Albino is probably the only guy who ever called Brock, "Goldilox", and lived. I wonder who choose that code name.

Well it's funny that you mention that.. But let's break the OSI bit down as well as the other stuff..

First off it's funny that Ed White (or is it Wight?) is first off an albino and that he uses the code name "Casper" (As in Casper the Friendly Ghost). Billy "Quizboy" Waylon is codenamed "Little Nemo" (as in the old comic strip, Little Nemo as described by Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Nemo). Of course Goldilocks as Brock's call sign is pretty darn obvious (Blond Mullet...)

but as for the OSI bunch, I think we are looking at this as most of the OSI Boys as not being "Straight" (and even with Race Bannon that too is questionable), yet you have Colonel Hunter Gathers as wanting to be Transgender..(hence his comment about having "them"...(which if we go back to Assassinanny 911" we find out he eventually gets..

But then of course what I find funny is that the back stories are taking a lot of the old ideas we know about the characters in both Season 1 and 2 and focus on the "Backstories" for a number of them (hence my one comment about that One OSI guy who dismissed Brock and then put on a Guild of Calamatous Intent Ring (this of course being):

Sargent Hatred

I think in the OSI this guy who replaced Gathers is in fact what I suggested and in fact even too he has a bit of a quirk, and I have a feeling before next week is over we'll Find out that Sargent Hatred, who is a mole for th Guild worked in the OSI for a while then got out and find a woman and developed his own quirk (refer back to Showdown at Cremation Creek Pt 1 for this quirk)

In short I feel Season 3 is going to be a look back into a lot of areas that either were touched or left untouched by the first two seasons. Hence my previous comments about this.

So in closing, I hope next week answers a big question as to

How and why Sargent Hatred became a mole in the OSI for the Guild of Calamatous Intent, and how he got that darn Hover Tank of his..

Again more thoughts on that one..

:coyote:

[Paul_Cousins]

Well it's funny that you mention that.. But let's break the OSI bit down as well as the other stuff..

First off it's funny that Ed White (or is it Wight?) is first off an albino and that he uses the code name "Casper" (As in Casper the Friendly Ghost). Billy "Quizboy" Waylon is codenamed "Little Nemo" (as in the old comic strip, Little Nemo as described by Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Nemo). Of course Goldilocks as Brock's call sign is pretty darn obvious (Blond Mullet...)

but as for the OSI bunch, I think we are looking at this as most of the OSI Boys as not being "Straight" (and even with Race Bannon that too is questionable), yet you have Colonel Hunter Gathers as wanting to be Transgender..(hence his comment about having "them"...(which if we go back to Assassinanny 911" we find out he eventually gets..

But then of course what I find funny is that the back stories are taking a lot of the old ideas we know about the characters in both Season 1 and 2 and focus on the "Backstories" for a number of them (hence my one comment about that One OSI guy who dismissed Brock and then put on a Guild of Calamatous Intent Ring (this of course being):

Sargent Hatred

I think in the OSI this guy who replaced Gathers is in fact what I suggested and in fact even too he has a bit of a quirk, and I have a feeling before next week is over we'll Find out that Sargent Hatred, who is a mole for th Guild worked in the OSI for a while then got out and find a woman and developed his own quirk (refer back to Showdown at Cremation Creek Pt 1 for this quirk)

In short I feel Season 3 is going to be a look back into a lot of areas that either were touched or left untouched by the first two seasons. Hence my previous comments about this.

So in closing, I hope next week answers a big question as to

How and why Sargent Hatred became a mole in the OSI for the Guild of Calamatous Intent, and how he got that darn Hover Tank of his..

Again more thoughts on that one..

:coyote:You forget in the episode, "I know why the caged bird kills", after Myra kidnaps the boys, the conversation between Hank and Dean had dealing with Sargent Hatred and "repressed memories". :sweat:

[Timmay]

Anyone notice the OSI agent that looked remarkably like Hank?

[Paul_Cousins]

Anyone notice the OSI agent that looked remarkably like Hank?Which one are you talking about? What was the person dressed as?

[Timmay]

Which one are you talking about? What was the person dressed as?

eh.. I can't remember when it was, but I think the guy's voice cracked when he spoke and he was wearing glasses?

[Crash]

What's with all the GIJoe comparisons? looks at the outfits. OSI is clearly ripping on old-school SHIELD.

While I did enjoy this episode, it would have been much better if I had seen the first half of it. That said, I'm very happy that the episodes this season have all had an actual ending. Rather than simply stopping the way a lot of season 2 eps did.

[Rud]

hey, remember in "Showdown at cremation creek" part one when Brock said to David Bowie "your lucky i dont kill you after what you pulled in berlin"?, think that has anything to do with the berlin wall crumbling down?

[PickHut]

What's with all the GIJoe comparisons?
The action segment with OSI in battle was an obvious take on the G.I. Joe openings. Also, a Destro lookalike made an appearance.

It also happened during the first part (I think), so I can understand your confusion.

[Sandoz]

The action segment with OSI in battle was an obvious take on the G.I. Joe openings. Also, a Destro lookalike made an appearance.
And Shore Leave is a direct parody of GI Joe member Shipwreck.

Hunter definitely has some Nick Fury mixed in with Hunter S. Thompson, but OSI = GI Joe.

[maczero]

And Shore Leave is a direct parody of GI Joe member Shipwreck.

Hunter definitely has some Nick Fury mixed in with Hunter S. Thompson, but OSI = GI Joe.I see OSI as more of a SHEILD analogue. Sure they have a military arm but they're primarily an intelligence organization.

[Sandoz]

I see OSI as more of a SHEILD analogue. Sure they have a military arm but they're primarily an intelligence organization.
Or OSI was more like GI Joe in the 80s, and is now closer to SHIELD. It appears that there were some major shakeups in the agency, maybe related to what made the Guild "public."