"The Incredible Hulk - When Monsters Meet" DVD Talkback (Spoilers)

[James Harvey]

The Green Goliath is back on DVD!


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Studio: Morningstar Entertainment
Release Date: June 10th, 2008

Synopsis: On a trip to Notre Dame, Paris, Bruce attends the evening meeting of the Academy of Science , where a fellow scientist offers Bruce a possible cure. Betty is there to meet the Minister of Finance to help store a shipment of gold, some of which will be delivered to the U.S. Government. A fiendish descendant of Quasimodo, the Hunchback of Notre Dame has plans for the cure and the gold shipment and kidnaps Betty. She is able to escape when the Hulk battles Quasimodo. Later, Betty rendezvous with the Minister and Bruce runs into Quasimodo who asks him for the formula that might cure him. Bruce agrees, and Quasimodo takes the formula with no immediate effect. Thinking it was a trick, Quasimodo unleashes the mutant bat Salvatore on Bruce while he goes after Betty and the gold shipment. The Hulk breaks free from the bat and chases after Quasimodo who sabotages the subway train with Betty and the Minister in it. The formula then works on Quasimodo who tells the Hulk to stop the runaway train. The Hulk prevails and turns back into Bruce, who is thanked by the grateful Quasimodo.

Bonus Material:
-Additional episodes of the classic 1967 Spider-Man series!

Please post all discussions, comments, etc, about the DVD here! Please discuss the featured episodes in the proper talkback, in the links provided below.

Episodes Included:
-The Incredible Hulk (1982) "When Monsters Meet" Talkback (Spoilers) (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=212128)

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[Spider-Friends]

Got my copy of this today. I wanted it only because I expected it to have the same end credits that the VHS tape it was copied from had. (Marvel Comic Video Library volume #5.) Those end credits were from the 2nd season of Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends when it was called The Incredible Hulk & The Amazing Spider-Man. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the end credits AT ALL.

I know no one cares about that but me but all of you collectors be warned: The way this looks, it has to have been made from video tape. It isn't a horrible picture but it is probably as bad of a picture as I have ever seen on an official DVD.

[Jon T]

Disappointing, but I'm not really surprised. Given Morningstar only specifically had the rights to the exact same episodes as used on the old Marvel Comics Video Library tapes, it stood to reason that they would simply use those very tapes as their video source for the DVDs, rather than getting access to any current digital masters.

Additionally, end credits are usually removed from productions for one of two reasons. Either due to simple time constraints, or to purposefully omit details on the rights holders and distributors of the production in question. The latter option is sometimes used by bootleggers to cover their backs. I can only hope that further DVD releases of the Marvel Library tapes actually include the end credits; I'd be increasingly concerned if they didn't.

[Spider-Friends]

If I remember correctly, the Hulk/SM&HAF credits appeared AFTER the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon credits on the VHS tape. They made a menu for the DVD and you pick the Hulk episode or you pick the Spidey episodes. So, instead of going to the trouble to move the Hulk credits to their proper place, they lopped them off. (The 67 Spidey credits are on the DVD.)

They actually went to the trouble to pull the FULL Hulk intro from somewhere else instead of using the cut-off Incredible Hulk & Amazing Spider-Man intro that was on the VHS.

Jon T,
Did the KALEIDOSCOPE video have the 2nd season end credits?

[Hypestyle]

interesting---

so fellas-- would you recommend this amateur collector to nab this-- it's just the 'one' Hulk episode and two (90's?) Spidey episodes?

..is there any way to write to morning star to get them to correct some of the concerns you pointed out? :shrug:

[Russkafin]

I can't find this on amazon. Where can I get it?

[Spider-Friends]

I can't find this on amazon. Where can I get it?

Amazon.ca (http://www.amazon.ca/Incredible-Hulk-When-Monsters/dp/B00177YG0U/ref=sr_1_42?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1207772637&sr=1-42)
It was released in Canada. It works on US DVD players though.


interesting---

so fellas-- would you recommend this amateur collector to nab this-- it's just the 'one' Hulk episode and two (90's?) Spidey episodes?

..is there any way to write to morning star to get them to correct some of the concerns you pointed out? :shrug:

Save your money, Hype. It IS just one 1982 Hulk episode and really just one episode of the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon (two 15 minute episodes). The disc cost $15 and shipping was $10. Take that $25 and buy a region free DVD player so that you can buy the entire 1982 Hulk cartoon when it comes out on UK DVD.

This DVD is an EXACT copy of a VHS release. It is copied straight from the video tape. The quality is as bad as you would expect. The episodes from the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon are in horrendous shape because they weren't cleaned up at the time the VHS was made AND the fact that again, this was from video tape.

[Jon T]

Did the KALEIDOSCOPE video have the 2nd season end credits?


I couldn't accurately say since I only saw a rental copy of that tape many years ago. If it did have those 2nd season ending credits, it would be one of the few times they've been seen outside of the original NBC broadcasts.

[The Blockbuster]

I felt the DVD case was quite misleading. It stated there was 90 minutes of footage. The Hulk episode was 23 and the Spidey ones were about 12. Even if you generously round the Hulk up to 30 minutes and Spidey to 20 each, that's still 20 minutes of unaccounted footage. I didn't think the picture quality was terrible on the Hulk episode, but the sound was sorta muffled and quiet. I don't regret buying it because I had never seen the sho and did like the episode, but I don't recommend this to anyone unless they can find it for $10 at a store.

[Spider-Friends]

I felt the DVD case was quite misleading. It stated there was 90 minutes of footage.

Heh. I'd say whoever wrote the text for the case didn't bother to do ANY research. They just wrongly assumed since there were "three episodes" on the disc that it meant there were three 30 minute cartoons.

I also consider it to be false advertising when companies use the wrong logos for a show. They used the 90's Spider-Man cartoon logo on the case when they should be using the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon logo. It may not seem like a big deal to them but as you can see upthread, it causes confusion. Afterall, it is pretty darn simple to grab the right logo.

[Jon T]

I also consider it to be false advertising when companies use the wrong logos for a show. They used the 90's Spider-Man cartoon logo on the case when they should be using the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon logo. It may not seem like a big deal to them but as you can see upthread, it causes confusion. Afterall, it is pretty darn simple to grab the right logo.

I noticed that too, but rather than poor research I always thought it was a very deliberate choice, since it's well-known that the the 1990s Spider-Man series is one of the most requested titles of all for DVD.

[James Harvey]

Below are menu shots from the DVD, courtesy of WF DVD Report (http://www.wfdvdreport.com/index.php?action=fullnews&id=486).


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[Spider-Man]

For those looking, I found this DVD at Wal-Mart for less than $12 dollars. I've never seen this animated series and I am looking forward to checking it out here. While the price does seem a bit steep for a single episode I think it's worth at least a check-out, especially since I don't think you can even rent this title anywhere.

[Trevor]

I'd never seen an episode of the 80's Incredible Hulk before this DVD, but I must say that I don't like how Morningstar went for the "double dip" on this DVD, since I had bought the single DVD release first and then a few months later found out that Morningstar had included it in the Heroes box set.

Boy, you can really tell that Morningstar only had access to a VHS copy of this tape, since the picture quality of the Hulk episode, and then even the 67 Spider-Man episodes was below the picture quality of the Buena Vista DVD release of the same 67 Spider-Man episodes, and even the Buena Vista releases of the 67 Spider-Man episodes on the 94 Spider-Man "Best Of" releases from 2002-03 (the episodes that were released before Disney did the remastering project on the 67 series).

As for the packaging saying that the DVD contained 90 minutes---I don't think you should blame Morningstar since it looks like that might've been a typo from the original Marvel Prism release.

[tenderheartbear]

To be fair, you can blame Morningstar for the running time error. Regardless of whether or not they copied the information from the VHS sleeve, this is still their release so they are accountable for the information on it. Just like the original R1 Halloween H20 or R2 Batman Returns with their commentary listings you have every right to complain.

Just out of curiousity, has anyone checked to see if Liberation's The Incredible Hulk 1982 release is just encoded for R2? It probably is but you never know. All my players are region free otherwise I'd do it myself. We all know that pretty much every WB DC release in the last 5 years have been R1, 2, 3 and 4 so that's something.

[Spider-Man]

Just out of curiousity, has anyone checked to see if Liberation's The Incredible Hulk 1982 release is just encoded for R2? It probably is but you never know. All my players are region free otherwise I'd do it myself. We all know that pretty much every WB DC release in the last 5 years have been R1, 2, 3 and 4 so that's something.I have the DVD and it says "Region 0" on the back. Does that help? I assume that means it is a region-free disc.

[Trevor]

I know that all the Marvel releases by Morningstar Entertainment are Region 0 NTSC discs, meaning that the discs will play anywhere in the world on an NTSC TV.