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PorkyandDaffy
06-22-2001, 12:29 AM
I know this topic was brought up long ago at the older forum, but here it is again: What do you think are the most violent classic cartoons or scenes in a classic cartoon? I'll add my list later, but one real violent cartoon on the top of my head is T&J's MOUSE TROUBLE. TRAP HAPPY also has a lot of violent gags, which is one of the reasons why it's my favorite Tom and Jerry cartoons.
Patrick McCart
06-22-2001, 03:58 AM
Bugs Bunny Nips The Nips
Bugs blew up a lot of Japs, didn't he? :rolleyes:
Hillbilly Hare is also very violent, but very very funny. :D
Larry T
06-22-2001, 08:19 AM
I'd have to vote "The Ducksters" as a pretty violent cartoon. "Gruesome Twosome" has some choice scenes of violence, but one of my absolute favourites is a Disney cartoon called "Hockey Homicide".
Plus, another favorite of mine is Lantz's "Who's Cookin' Who?". The scene where Woody sticks the wolf's tail into the meat grinder always makes me cringe (...crunnnnccchh, crunnch, crunnch....) :eek:
Also add in there "Herman the Cat-toonist". Although most of the cartoon is their standard dumb gags, there is the scene where Herman cuts off Katnip's head using a pair of scissors in full view.
Cartoon King
06-22-2001, 08:59 AM
I definately think that the most violent carton is a milk carton although a Tropicana orange juice carton can be pretty rough at times too. Sorry I couldn't resist. There's one in every crowd.
Now as far as the most violent cartoon, I agree with Patrick that Nips is violent in sheer numbers alone. Although the cartoons featuring the Three Bears, for instance the Bee-Deviled Bruin, are filled with violent gags.
If I dood it, I get a whippin'! I dood it!
Thad Komorowski
06-22-2001, 10:46 AM
What about the director's cut ending of "Hare Ribbin'"? Or Tom getting his head chopped off (not really) at the end of "The Two Mouseketeers"? Or us actually seeing Tom chop his tail into pieces (thank God it looked like clay :D) in "Filet Meow"?
-Thad:D
Matthew Hunter
06-22-2001, 11:26 AM
The Tom and Jerry series, particularly "Trap Happy" are quite violent. I think one of the most violent, though, is "Bear Feat." Not even Jones' Road Runner cartoons got this bad. Maybe it's just that the cartoon is so dark and mean-spirited compared to Jones' other stuff. I never cared for that one, but it IS violent.
-Matthew
Crazy Tom
06-22-2001, 02:39 PM
This is a tough call. I'm surprised nobody mentioned the Bugs, Daffy, and Elmer trilogy...Rabbit Fire, Rabbit Seasoning, and Duck! Rabbit! Duck! They all gave Daffy a lot of headaches...especially with the gun scenes. Thank goodness CN shows those cartoons the right way.
On the other hand, the endings to Ballot Box Bunny (the Russian Roulette scene), An Itch In Time (the cat commits suicide), and Tortoise Wins By A Hare (all 4 rabbits blow their brains out after trying to blow up Bugs) also have to qualify. Be thankful that Itch and Tortoise can be seen on the Bob Clampett show in unedited format...just how it should be.
lislebartman
06-22-2001, 03:41 PM
Most violent, eh? Hmmm, this ia a tough one. I've seen so many cartoons during my lifetime. Here are a few that come to mind:
Hillbilly Hare (square dance segment is a classic!!)
Sock-A-Doodle-Do(Foghorn Leghorn and Kid Banty)
Hare Trimmed (uncut version, of course)
The Organ Grinder's Swing (Popeye/Fleischer)
Gym Jam(Popeye/Famous)
Wild & Woody(Woody Woodpecker/Buzz Buzzard)
The Talking Magpies (1st Heckle & Jeckle short; lots of head- hitting in this one)
Puddy Tat Twouble(Tweety & Sylvester)
Let's keep this thread going! I'm sure there are a lot more.
Nelson
06-22-2001, 06:06 PM
What I consider to be the most violent cartoons??? Hummmmm. good topic, well lets see....
Almost all the HERMAN & KATNIP cartoons are what I consider to be the most graphic violent cartoons I have ever seen, next to the TOM & JERRY cartoons.
kiddiesunshine
06-22-2001, 07:52 PM
I think there's a lesson to be learned from all this. Cartoon violence is funny! I love seeing toons get konked in the head with numerous blunt objects. I love the sound effects that accompany the blows. I know we are all smart people. That's one of the reasons why I'm glad to be here. We all can laugh when Foghorn Leghorn's head meets Mr. Hammer, but we also feel sorry for people in REAL LIFE who fall victim to violent acts. As for the subject of this thread, I don't have a favorite violent cartoon. The more violent the cartoon and the louder the sound effects, the better the cartoon. I like the one Bugs Bunny cartoon when the little boy beats Elmer in the head with the hammer, screaming "I want an Easter egg! I want an Easter egg!"
The Dork Knight
06-23-2001, 10:20 PM
Classic Cartoons: The Duckster
Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips
Hare Ribbin' Director's cut
New Age Cartoons:
Celebrity Deathmatch
South Park
TV Funhouse
billyjoelfan
06-23-2001, 11:15 PM
i'm surprised no one sead
hare less wolf that was pretty vilonent
i can understand why abc and cbs edited the toon
so thats my vote
SuperFunk
06-25-2001, 12:57 PM
Here's my list of violent cartoons:
QUACK SHOT
(Every scene consists of a gunshot or explosion.)
HARE-LESS WOLF
TO HARE IS HUMAN
(Wile E. received several explosions, and ABC had edited them all out.)
BUCCANNEER BUNNY
RABBIT FIRE
RABBIT SEASONING
DUCK! RABBIT! DUCK!
THE BEE-DEVILED BRUIN
THE LEGHORN BLOWS AT MIDNIGHT
- Yet, all the action in these cartoons seems to be stylized.
PorkyandDaffy
06-25-2001, 05:01 PM
It's a good think ABC never had QUACK SHOT. If they did, every gag would be cut out, making it last for about 4 seconds.
Also, I never understood ABC’s problem with explosion gags. It’s not like some kid’s going to watch an uncut Road Runner and Coyote cartoon, then blow himself up with a stick of dynamite after the cartoon's over.
happyheathen
06-25-2001, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by PorkyandDaffy
It’s not like some kid’s going to watch an uncut Road Runner and Coyote cartoon, then blow himself up with a stick of dynamite after the cartoon's over.
As you live in the area...
Check this out:
it used to be that there were 2 states in which anybody could buy dynamite (and caps, etc) - NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!!
(farmers used it to blow up tree stumps)
Those states were IN and WI - wanna try the local blasting supply store?
kiddiesunshine
06-25-2001, 06:43 PM
The fault lies with the parents!!! If any of you are parents, I'm sorry. I don't know any of your parenting skills, so I can't judge. For the most part, parents are responsible for the stupid things their kids do. How can a child imitate a scene (e.g. dynamite gag) unless they have access to the "proper tools"? All these grown folks want to have guns in the house and everyone knows you can't hide things from curious children for too long. I have to go, so I can't finish my point. You know what I'm saying though.
J Lee
06-25-2001, 08:03 PM
The two most painful scenes I can think of that are still on CN are both T&Js -- the scene where Tom cuts a tree in half with his groin in "The Flying Cat" and one where Jerry gets a cuestick in the same area in "Cue-Ball Cat," both to the accompanyment of a very loud sound of a circular saw cutting wood. Ouch.
Other than that, Nelson's right about the Herman and Katnip shorts -- there are some scenes in those that make T&J look refined by comparson, and the violent stuff kept on right up through 1959's "Owly To Bed" by which time MGM had shut its studio and even Warners was toning down the most violent gags.
Joe Tully
06-25-2001, 10:19 PM
I watched a Road Runner cartoon when I was 6. Soon afterwards I tried to catch a Road Runner. Due to extreme damage done to my body during the chase, I now spend most of my time on the computer, using my nose to type and move the mouse. It's a real problem during flu season, what with the snot and all. My lawsuit against Acme fell through, apparently the equipment was labeled in fine print "Do Not Use To Catch Road Runners."
Anyways, the Clampett Tweety's seemed fairly violent to me. I always loved those, they were incredibly hilarious. Great accompanying sound effects, too.
kiddiesunshine
06-25-2001, 10:57 PM
The sound effect is one of the most crucial parts in violent scenes. Do you think it would have the same effect if the violent scenes had no sound? I was watching South Park last Wed., and a violent scene had no sound effects other than poor voices. Back on the real subject, I like the scenes in those T&J cartoons also. Another thing I like is when something hits someone's body so hard their body shatters, like when Tom jmps into an empty swimming pool. The action is accompanied by the sound of breaking dishes. PERFECT! I can't wait until I get my animation job! you guys are gonna love my work! It'll be Tex Avery Style with a little Bob Clampett on the side. Add a pinch of Chuck Jones to taste and that's my style, if an accurate description can be had. There I go, trailing off the subject again. I'm gonna be an annoying old man in the future.
Nelson
06-25-2001, 11:54 PM
I forgot the name of this "HERMAN & KATNIP" cartoon, but it was about when Herman took his nephews to a penny arcade(while Katnip was alseep) to play the arcade games.Two graphic scenes in this cartoon are as follows:
1.Herman shoves a double barrel shotgun thru a penny movie machine while disguised as a hula girl and then Katnip starts to crank the machine while the string pulls the trigger causing the gun to let out a very loud explosive sound while blowing off (in a very gory scene)Katnip's head off.
2. Later, Herman ties Katnip's tail to a muscle test, while sending thousands of electric volts thru Katnip's entire body, which also makes the cartoon turn black into yellow during this scene.
Help me out on the name of this cartoon..I have this one on video. but can't think of this cartoon title.
kiddiesunshine
06-26-2001, 02:15 AM
I didn't notice until now, but in the title of this thread, "cartoons" is spelled wrong. Cartons=Cartoons. I need a life...
Larry T
06-26-2001, 10:04 AM
There's another pretty bad scene there- the ending of the cartoon, where Katnip's lifeless stiffened body is used as a target for shooting practice. Didn't he get his face blown up somewhere in that cartoon and had a blackface appearance, while "Shortnin' Bread" played on the soundtrack?
John Lee, those Tom And Jerry scenes you brought up REALLY HURT!! I remember the ingeniousness of the buzz-saw sound effect for Tom's crotch cutting the tree in half. Another scene which really hurts is in "Cat Napping" when the Tom goes through the lawn mower. In addition to that "BRRRRAAAAAAWWWPPPP" sound effect, you also see Tom's face looking at his body getting shredded, then wincing with pain as he goes further and further through it. YEOWCH!!
In "Cue Ball Cat" the aftereffect of Jerry's butt being singed red with a shrivelled-up little tail was also a nice touch. What great cartoons!!!
Nelson
06-26-2001, 04:57 PM
I simply love "HERMAN & KATNIP" they are the best...
Bobby B
06-27-2001, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by Larry T
There's another pretty bad scene there- the ending of the cartoon, where Katnip's lifeless stiffened body is used as a target for shooting practice. Didn't he get his face blown up somewhere in that cartoon and had a blackface appearance, while "Shortnin' Bread" played on the soundtrack?
No, Katnip got his head stuck in a shoeshining machine.
Also, in "Cat Carson Rides Again", "Way Down Upon the Swannee River" is heard briefly when Katnip gets covered with tar.
DarthGonzo
06-28-2001, 12:13 AM
What about in "Trap Happy" when Tom and Butch use a crowbar to lift a wall of the house, which then crashes down, nails and all, on Butch's fingers. That's the most painful-sounding scream I've ever heard!!
PorkyandDaffy
06-28-2001, 01:18 AM
I already mentioned TRAP HAPPY. That whole cartoon is violent.
Thad Komorowski
08-05-2001, 09:34 AM
The wolf in Woody's "Who's Cookin' Who?" has the most disturbing sounding screams in a classic cartoon. It actually sounds like he's getting hurt (especially when Woody slams his head in the waffle iron)!
"Fair Weather Fiends" (a Woody short) also has a similar meat grinder scene, with Woody putting the wolf into one, turning half his body into a hot dog! Ouch!
-Thad:D
Larry T
08-05-2001, 11:32 AM
Yep- but you'd have to say that the one in "Who's Cookin' Who" seems to be more effective. Whenever the wolf pushes on the handle of the meat grinder (before he realizes his tail is in it), his body gets pulled a little more out of view, until at the end you see his face getting stretched while trying to remain in field view....
YEOUCH!!
I agree about the wolf's whining when Woody holds his head in the waffle iron.... that scene almost crosses the line of humourous animated violence!!
Mibbitmaker
08-05-2001, 10:45 PM
The color remake of the Popeye cartoon where he and Bluto try to get hoited to be in the hospital with Olive... the scene where Pop forces Bluto to eat the spinach and he beats Popeye up... Popeye is getting quite a beating in glorious close-up, an' I thinks he enjoyed it alittle TOO much
Also the Sailor in Can You Take it, when the gloved fists squinch up his face. Brutal.
The Tom & Jerry that takes place on a lake, when the bulldog gets his head aquashed between 2 rocks. Even I thought that was TOO brutal!
And, for modern cartoon violence, ya can"t leave out Itchy & Scratchy! Funny thing, it's supposed to be a satire on cartoon violence(which is too PC in content for me), but one early scene had one o' them blown up so only a skelleton is left. But Tex Avery already DID a gag like that in Slap Happy Lion!
Sveven Dvorking
08-06-2001, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by kiddiesunshine
I didn't notice until now, but in the title of this thread, "cartoons" is spelled wrong. Cartons=Cartoons.
rhapsodyrabbit already made a funny joke about that, before you posted.
Thad Komorowski
08-06-2001, 02:32 PM
Yeah, surprisingly no one else mentioned the "Slap Happy Lion" scene:
The mouse plays the lion's ribs (inside of him) like a xylophone. The lion swallows a bomb WHOLE to scare the mouse out. His plan works, but only one problem: THERE'S A LIT BOMB INSIDE HIM!!! The lion runs around panicking, until he finally blows up, blasting his skin off, leaving only his skeleton for a brief moment!
-Thad:D
Matt Yorston
08-06-2001, 04:40 PM
There is also a similar gag in the WB cartoon, "Captain Hareblower". Sam attempts to swim underwater (wearing scuba gear) while carrying a lit bomb (and, as Beck/Friedwald observe, the bomb STAYS lit while under water) in an attempt to destroy Bugs' ship. Unfortunately, his plan goes awry when a giant fish eats him while. The bomb then explodes leaving only the fish's skeleton with a disheveled Sam inside. Personally, I always found that gag to be a little gruesome for a Warners cartoon.
starlioness
08-11-2001, 11:24 PM
what is the big deal?, Look I know censorship has it's place but this is too much , if people are offended then don't watch it , simple as that :confused:
Matthew Hunter
08-11-2001, 11:28 PM
Welcome, starlioness! That pretty much sums up our opinion here. I don't much care for censorship of cartoons, either. Minor edits may depend, but the whole "June Bugs" and anti-Speedy thing on the Cartoon Network is too much.
-Matthew
starlioness
08-12-2001, 12:08 AM
anti speedy thing? thanks Matt!
L00nE2n
08-12-2001, 09:49 AM
I might say "The Wacky Wabbit" in which Elmer tries to kill Bugss with a pickaxe and Bugs buries Elmer alive.
Let's not forget "Steamboat Willie." Mickey won't be picking up any Humane Society awards after that one...
Matt
Sveven Dvorking
08-12-2001, 04:59 PM
How did "Matt" get an avatar with under 10 posts?
:confused:
starlioness
08-12-2001, 10:50 PM
what's this anti-speedy thing about?. and steamboat willie?.
and is it true that Foghorn Leghorn is being banned from t.v?
I saw Bugs bunny Nips the Nips, the Jap guy was funny and the grenade gag was cool too . too bad its banned , also I saw Hare Ribbin, The gunshot happens to fast to see anything. although I was "choking" at the hanging scene of Big House Bunny.
and How many Bugs Bunny cartoons are banned now anyway, and what are there titles?
happyheathen
08-12-2001, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by starlioness
what's this anti-speedy thing about?. and steamboat willie?.
and is it true that Foghorn Leghorn is being banned from t.v?
and How many Bugs Bunny cartoons are banned now anyway, and what are there titles?
Hi and welcome!
Ted Turner thought Speedy portrayed an offensive characterzation of Mexicans, and banned most of the 'toons from CN.
'Wille' - don't know
Foghorn - I believe he's still in CN's rotation (TV now = CN)
banned bugs:
Hiawatha's Rabbit Hunt
All This and Rabbit Stew
Any Bonds Today?
Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips
Herr Meets Hare
A Feather in His Hare
Mississippi Hare
Frigid Hare
Which is Witch?
Bushy Hare
Horse Hare
there are a bunch more LT/MM that will never again see light of day, but they are not Bugs 'toons.
Heathen beat me, good thing there's an edit button....
Cartoon Network has shown a FEW Speedy cartoons, but always the same two or so (one of those could be deemed the most "offensive" of all, Cat Tails For Two, Speedy has a gold tooth in that one...). I don't even think CN has access to all the Speedy cartoons, like they don't have prints of the Bosko cartoons.
CN won't show Bosko or Buddy either. Cartoons with Indians have also been pulled from circulation. They don't show Inki cartoons, even though he isn't what most would call an offensive portrayal of Africans...
Also, Mammy Two Shoes (the black woman from Tom and Jerry), has been banned, except for rare occasions.
and in Steamboat Willie, Mickey uses animals in many cruel ways to play music
Hope some of this helps, and welcome to the TTTP, everyone here hates editing...
Jack:D
happyheathen
08-12-2001, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Jack
Heathen beat me, good thing there's an edit button....
Jack:D
Especially since you got the reason for 'Mississippi's exclusion wrong...;)
Yeah, I know, it was probably because that non-blackface blackface (sorry, but that just doesn't even resemble a blackface to me...) and the Uncle Tom's Cabinet, right?
Jack:p
happyheathen
08-12-2001, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Jack
Yeah, I know, it was probably because that non-blackface blackface (sorry, but that just doesn't even resemble a blackface to me...) and the Uncle Tom's Cabinet, right?
Jack:p
Col. Shuffle w/ face blackened, playing banjo, with Bugs dancing to 'Camptown Races' is not blackface? I know, it's the heat...not thinking...from WI...what do you expect...
a reminder:
http://www.jps.net/dclements/looneypics/mississippi.JPG
Maybe in a way it is a blackface, but when I first watched it, it never struck me as such. But then again, it never even struck me as blackface seeing the uncut ending of "Fresh Hare," so maybe it's my medication:D
Jack:eek:
happyheathen
08-12-2001, 11:54 PM
'medication'? is that what we call it nowadays?:D
starlioness
08-12-2001, 11:54 PM
siigh, they put crappy t.v like Pokemon, but take away our toons!, Speedy was cool!, what are they going to do now, ban Looney tunes for good? :mad: :rolleyes:
starlioness
08-13-2001, 12:01 AM
his fasce looks more brown than black. but when I saw it on T.V , it was "black", and I can't believe Mickey would do something like that , maybe I should look it up somewhere, and I remember Mickey holdong a gun in symphony hour :p
happyheathen
08-13-2001, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by starlioness
what are they going to do now, ban Looney tunes for good? :mad: :rolleyes:
maybe not ban, but, eventually, will stop showing...
Thad Komorowski
08-13-2001, 12:17 AM
"Steamboat Willie" wouldn't give Mickey the Humane Society award because of the following scenes:
1-Mickey and Minnie use a goat to play "Turkey in the Straw" like a record player
2-Mickey grabs a cat, pulls on its tail, and it starts screaming the song. Mickey then swings the cat around, and lets go.
3-Mickey grabs a duck and starts choking it, causing it to quack the song.
4-Mickey then pulls on the nursing pigs tails, and they squeal to the music.
5-Mickey then flips the mother pig over and plays her t***s like an instrument.
Hmm, not as gentle as Mickey would become, hmm?
-Thad
maybe not ban, but, eventually, will stop showing...
I think that would only happen if the cartoons lost high ratings and popularity, but even then, the cartoons would most likely end up on Boomerang.
They may ban and edit many cartoons, but as long as events like "June Bugs" get huge ratings, Looney Tunes will have a place on CN.
Jack:D
Brandon Pierce
08-14-2001, 11:43 PM
A Fued There Was has several violent scenes. There are just too many to count. But, I'll tell you this, if Nick had ever shown it, boy what a butchering job they would do. I'm still ticked @ what there doing to The Beavers.
Matthew Hunter
08-15-2001, 12:36 AM
Ya know, I do believe this is one of the longest threads we've ever had.
-Matthew
mmv3000
08-15-2001, 04:55 AM
has anyone mentioned the Itchy & Scratchy segments of the Simpsons show yet? Doesn't get more violent than that.
barnyarddawg
08-15-2001, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Jack
Yeah, I know, it was probably because that non-blackface blackface (sorry, but that just doesn't even resemble a blackface to me...) and the Uncle Tom's Cabinet, right?
Jack:p
Any time you hear Camptown Ladies, Way Down upon a Swannee River, Mammy's Little Baby Loves Shortening bread, Carry Me back to Old Virginy, or I Wish I Was in Dixie, you can pretty much garuntee it's blackface.
J Lee
08-15-2001, 08:05 PM
Well, not Camptown Ladies -- Foghorn Leghorn salvaged that song, but if CN ever starts banning cartoons because of the music's historic connections, all the Foggy cartoons are going on the shelf next to all the Speedy Gonzales ones.
happyheathen
08-15-2001, 08:21 PM
a. the title is CAMPTOWN RACES (By Stephen C. Foster)
b. the word is 'savaged':
'Main Entry: 3savage
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): sav·aged; sav·ag·ing
Date: 1880
: to attack or treat brutally '
(Merriam-Webster)
feeling old...
DR. BELCH
08-16-2001, 12:47 PM
Maybe during the Stalling era...but the late Richard Stone often used that piece in his cartoons when some character was eating onscreen. I suppose now people will suspect him of being a closet Klansman along with Friz or Tex.
No, I think Heathen meant "salvaged", as in brought back or saved, rather than destroyed or tore apart. What the devil is racist about "Camptown Races", though? It's about horse-racing and betting, and white folks do it too....
Argus Sventon
08-16-2001, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by J Lee
Well, not Camptown Ladies -- Foghorn Leghorn salvaged that song, but if CN ever starts banning cartoons because of the music's historic connections, all the Foggy cartoons are going on the shelf next to all the Speedy Gonzales ones.
That will never happen. Foggy's too valuable.
Sveven Dvorking
08-16-2001, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Argus Sventon
That will never happen. Foggy's too valuable.
He's really no more valuable than Speedy.
starlioness
08-17-2001, 04:28 PM
hey, I watched sing-along looney tunes. where they have the characters singing in the cartoons?. well, I noticed part of Showbiz bugs was cut. when Daffy challenges Bugs to the xylophone. Bugs of course plays the wrong note at the end. but when Daffy plays the thing explodes. and moves on to another scene. we don't see what happened to Daffy after this. and in the Three little Bops. the scene where the wolf comes back as a spirit is cut. thus ending with the wolf blown up. have you guys seen this? :eek: :confused:
Sveven Dvorking
08-17-2001, 06:46 PM
If you're talking about the home video, they call them "edits for time". I don't know why, since a video can hold two hours.
Pietro
08-17-2001, 07:14 PM
Here are my picks for the most violent 'toons:
"As the Crow Lies" (Famous Studios):
The scene towards the end where Buzzy locks Katnip in a room with a bomb to cure his hiccups. When the bomb explodes, Katnip dies and his nine lives fly up to heaven.
"Hold Anything" (WB):
When Bosko cuts off that mouse's head with a saw.
"My Pal Paul" (Lantz):
The shot where Oswald attemps to hang himself.
"Opening Night" (Van Beuren):
The shot where we see very gory cartoon animal body parts laying around - it makes me cringe just thinking about it!
"Who's Cookin' Who?" (Lantz):
Where the wolf puts himself into the meat grinder -
CRUNCH, CRUNCH, CRUUUUUNCH!
-Pietro
Tintin
01-19-2002, 10:10 AM
Difficile de se décider quels dessins animés sont violents. Mais en voici quelques uns:
Steamboat Willie
Probalement le plus violent épisode à mon goût
The Foghorn Leghorn
Quand le chien assome Foggy après que sa niche fut explosée par une dynamite
Ain't She Tweet
Un de mes préférés de Tweety mais la scène est quand Sylvester se brule après que la fusée est partie.
Bunny Hugged
Un match de lutte... C'est aussi violent que dans la vraie vie.
Blacklight
01-19-2002, 12:04 PM
There was one Barney Bear cartoon where all his bones shatter. We're shown an x-ray view of his bones crumbling, and then he schlumps along as a sack of bone fragments, with this weird dead smile. With the background music adding to the whole effect, this is the grossest sight gag I can think of (outside of Itchy & Scratchy).
Matt Yorston
01-19-2002, 03:12 PM
Blacklight, which Barney Bear cartoon IS that?
And to think when Dick Lundy took over the series, he wanted Barney to "have a slower pace and likeable appeal to the audience". But as he also states, "Sometimes I achieved this and sometimes I failed". Guess Maltin is right when he said, "the gag style of his cartoons didn't suit the softer, more personality conscious character Lundy had in mind".
Jon Cooke
01-19-2002, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Matt Yorston
Blacklight, which Barney Bear cartoon IS that?
"Wee Willie Wildcat". The scene which BlackLight described occurred after Barney tried to kick a football that Willie hid a rock in.
-Jon
Howard Fein
01-22-2002, 01:43 PM
CAPTAIN HAREBLOWER: Not only does Sam get blown up at least seven times- a lot even for him- but one cannon explosion completely vaporizes him! :eek:
A BEAR FOR PUNISHMENT: It's off-screen, but a peek a Paw's tattered sleeve hints at the damage Junyer must've inflicted with the broken razor. Even Maw sees fit to cover the cake in 'respect' until it's verified that "Paw's all right!" BTW, for a long time I suspected the "G-U-N-P-O-W-D-E-R- tahbaccah!" bit culminated in a blackface gag. ("But, Henry, what'll the neighbors think?") ;)
BIRD IN A GUILTY CAGE: Heavily edited when shown on Saturday morning for the classic 'changing the handkerchief on the rifle barrel' gag, which seems innocuous enough- the same bit would be shown unedited in A STAR IS BORED and TEASE FOR TWO. What seems unusually morbid is Sylvester graphically shooting his finger, which he believed to be Tweety- thanks to some yellow paint.
REBEL WITHOUT CLAWS: After Sylvester runs past a fusillade of bullets, he's shown as shot full of large holes. :eek:
Nelson
01-22-2002, 05:06 PM
Here is a rare Mighty Mouse cartoon that has a violent graphic scene..In "At The Circus", when Mighty comes to save a beautiful female trapezze artist from a bunch of man eating lions.In one scene shows Mighty going right into the inside of the lion, and in a squirmy scene, Mighty turns the lion inside out, showing his skeleton and some other gory stuff.
Thad Komorowski
01-22-2002, 05:13 PM
Also, here's some more graphic scenes I noticed, while watching tapes over the weekend.
"Mice Paradise" (Famous)
Herman gets a net ready with a crab in it, and flings the crab onto Katnip's tail. Katnip pulls the crab off, but also ripping off the end of his tail, revealing that Katnip's tailbone is a spring!
"Mouseum" (Famous)
Katnip throws knives at the first wheel, where Herman is standing. He misses four times, and Herman jumps onto the wheel and starts running on it, making it roll at Katnip. The cat runs away, only to be sliced up, and we see his layers on the floor!
"Will Do Mouse-Work" (Famous)
When Katnip swallows Herman whole, Herman takes a bone off of the cat's spine, and rams it into Katnip's teeth to get out of the body!
"Professor Tom" (MGM)
When Tom is spanking the kitten, Jerry cracks Tom's tail bone in half, with cracking sound and all!
-Thad
DR. BELCH
01-22-2002, 06:39 PM
Blacklight:
[B]There was one Barney Bear cartoon where all his bones shatter. We're shown an x-ray view of his bones crumbling, and then he schlumps along as a sack of bone fragments, with this weird dead smile. ...[T]his is the grossest sight gag I can think of
I think Michael Lah directed that one, as well as "The Bear and the Bean". Lah was one of Tex Avery's animation and gag-men, and you can definitely see The Master's influence in both shorts. Chuck Jones started out under Avery as well, and even today--cf. "Timber Wolf"--you can see Tex's indelible mark.
A few more:
*The ending of "Cue Ball Cat", in which Tom is stuck with only his head showing in a table pocket...and Jerry sinks a shot by slamming him in the head with the cue. When the ball rolls into his open, screaming mouth and down his throat--that looked uncomfortable.
*In "Muscle Tussle", the bit with Daffy chewing an iron pipe, trying to turn it into bullets--he ends up spitting a mouthful of his own teeth into a post...definitely cringeworthy...later, Daffy's rival puts a little too much into lifting the fake barbell, flies straight up into the air, and hits the ground with a thud, compressing his spine miserably ("Y'all can call me Shorty!")
*most any Popeye short, but particularly "Clean-Shaven Man", which has--if I recall right--both Bluto ripping off Popeye's face with a hot towel and Popeye going to town on Bluto's face with a very sharp straight razor....
Matt Yorston
01-22-2002, 06:48 PM
Nope, Dick Lundy directed "Wee Willie Wildcat" although Michael Lah did serve as an animator on same cartoon. Lah did direct "Bear and the Bean" though.
As for "A Clean Shaven Man", are you sure you're not thinking of the Famous remake, "Shaving Muggs"? Or do the scenes you're referring to occur in both cartoons?
Blacklight
01-22-2002, 06:51 PM
Thanks Jon, you're right about which cartoon it is. Out of context, I forgot where that gag came from.
Billy
01-22-2002, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by happyheathen
Hiawatha's Rabbit Hunt
All This and Rabbit Stew
Any Bonds Today?
Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips
Herr Meets Hare
A Feather in His Hare
Mississippi Hare
Frigid Hare
Which is Witch?
Bushy Hare
Horse Hare
And 'What's Cooking Doc?'
I think that should be called 'The censored 9' because 3 of those (A feather in his hare,frigid hare,what's cooking doc?) have been recently shown in England and America.
Originally posted by Thad K
1-Mickey and Minnie use a goat to play "Turkey in the Straw" like a record player
2-Mickey grabs a cat, pulls on its tail, and it starts screaming the song. Mickey then swings the cat around, and lets go.
3-Mickey grabs a duck and starts choking it, causing it to quack the song.
4-Mickey then pulls on the nursing pigs tails, and they squeal to the music.
5-Mickey then flips the mother pig over and plays her t***s like an instrument.
-Thad
Yup,my print of Steamboat Willie has 4 of those scenes intact-easy to see what scene is cut!
Originally posted by BillyH
I think that should be called 'The censored 9' because 3 of those (A feather in his hare,frigid hare,what's cooking doc?) have been recently shown in England and America.
The "Censored 12" only really refers to how the cartoons were kept from "June Bugs," not how they are shown on CN's other programming.
Jack :D
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