Who is more tougher?

[bishospidey]

who is more tougher spidey , captain america , iron man , night crawler , beast (from the x-men) or the thing ?

[Silverstar]

Uh......

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're asking. What do you mean by "tougher"? Stronger? Braver? More attitude? More physically durable? I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

Also, this assemblage of characters seems too random: why did you select Spider-Man, Iron Man, Capt. America, Thing, Beast and Nightcrawler specifically? Because they've all been in movies? From an observational standpoint, this combo doesn't make a lot of sense. Please explain.

Also, "more tougher" is redundant; it's either "tougher" or "more tough". (Sorry, that's just the English major in me talking.) :sweat:

[bishospidey]

Also, this assemblage of characters seems too random: why did you select Spider-Man, Iron Man, Capt. America, Thing, Beast and Nightcrawler specifically? Because they've all been in movies? From an observational standpoint, this combo doesn't make a lot of sense. Please explain.
because i am writing a magazine so just i want to know who would take the lead of my new team
are u happy now ??/????/????

[Silverstar]

Calm down. The folks here aren't mind readers. How are we supposed to know that you're putting together a fanfic team if you don't tell us?

-Though if I may make a suggestion: I think Beast and Nightcrawler on the same team is kind of redundant. Not trying to tell you how to write, but do you really need 2 blue furry guys?

-Also, no heroines on the team? Boo!

Finally, leadership can't or shouldn't be determined by toughness or power alone; you also have to consider that not everyone has an Alpha personality or the necessary experience to properly lead. The most obvious choice for team leader would probably be Captain America, since he has the most experience as such and is arguably the most iconic of them all. Thing is basically a reluctant hero and lacks the patience and mental faculties to properly lead. Nightcrawler and Beast are good team players, but they lack the ability to lead. (Though 'Crawler did lead Excalibur for a time.) Spider-Man could be in charge, but it seems unlikely that he'd be chosen as leader with the likes of Iron Man or Cap in the group; both men are older and have more experience.

-I'd probably give the nod to Cap or Tony Stark, but that's just me. (I'd also put a woman or 2 on the team for gender balance, but now we're getting into personal tastes....)

[bishospidey]

(I'd also put a woman or 2 on the team for gender balance, but now we're getting into personal tastes....)
i did
but i didnt want to make a lady lead the team

[Silverstar]

i did
but i didnt want to make a lady lead the team

There will be female readers who will consider that attitude sexist, you realize.

Anyways, I never suggested that a woman should lead your team, merely that your story might appeal to more readers overall if the team weren't a total sausage-fest. ;)

[bishospidey]

There will be female readers who will consider that attitude sexist, you realize.

Anyways, I never suggested that a woman should lead your team, merely that your story might appeal to more readers overall if the team weren't a total sausage-fest. ;)
thankj u for that can u plz leave the leader alone and judge??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????

[Silverstar]

I already did. Check post #4. ^^

[GregX]

Just out of curiosity, is English your first language?

What magazine do you write for?

What's wrong with having a woman take charge?

[bishospidey]

Just out of curiosity, is English your first language?

What magazine do you write for?

What's wrong with having a woman take charge?
no
i dont write a magazine for this foolish team but i only said that so he would stop disterbing me
i dont like theteam that a woman takes the lead in cause it would be unsuccsesful team(that is from my openiom)
and because all the new heroic ladies are too fancy,too unserious so that is why i dont like a woman to take charge of a team

[Blackstar]

no
i dont write a magazine for this foolish team but i only said that so he would stop disterbing me
i dont like theteam that a woman takes the lead in cause it would be unsuccsesful team(that is from my openiom)
and because all the new heroic ladies are too fancy,too unserious so that is why i dont like a woman to take charge of a team

When no one responds to your posts, you complain about it, but when someone does respond to it, they're "disturbing" you. We just can't win.

In any case, no one ever said that you had to have a woman leader, Silver just suggested that your team could have 1 or 2 female members. That's all.

But to answer your question, out of that group, I would pick Captain America for the leader. Not because I think he's the "toughest", but because he has the most experience in being a hero.

[Silverstar]

i dont write a magazine for this foolish team but i only said that so he would stop disterbing me

:confused: Um, how was my politely asking you to explain the purpose of your thread and the correlation between your random choosing of characters "disturbing you"?

Really, I'd truly like to know.


i dont like theteam that a woman takes the lead in cause it would be unsuccsesful team(that is from my openiom)
and because all the new heroic ladies are too fancy,too unserious so that is why i dont like a woman to take charge of a team

Dude, I'm not even female and I found what you just said here to be extremely chauvinistic. And to that I'd just like to point out that:
Storm has led the X-Men's Gold Team during the 90's comics, and remains the X-Men's sub-leader after Cyclops (IIRC).
Vindicator's wife Guardian was leader of Alpha Flight for a time.
Susan Storm-Richards has led the Fantastic Four on numerous occasions, and is to this day considered to be one of the most powerful and formidable women in the Marvel universe.-So it would seem that Marvel doesn't share your assessment that women don't make effective leaders.

Truthfully, which character would make an effective commander and which characters would not depends on the individual character, not that character's gender.

[GregX]

Dude, I'm not even female and I found what you just said here to be extremely chauvinistic. And to that I'd just like to point out that:
Storm has led the X-Men's Gold Team during the 90's comics, and remains the X-Men's sub-leader after Cyclops (IIRC).
Vindicator's wife Guardian was leader of Alpha Flight for a time.
Susan Storm-Richards has led the Fantastic Four on numerous occasions, and is to this day considered to be one of the most powerful and formidable women in the Marvel universe.-So it would seem that Marvel doesn't share your assessment that women don't make effective leaders.


Oh, look, another more than effective team leader:

http://gargoyles.dracandros.com/w/images/9/9f/HunterRobyn.JPG

There is nothing wrong with a woman leading a team.

[bishospidey]

:confused: Um, how was my politely asking you to explain the purpose of your thread and the correlation between your random choosing of characters "disturbing you"?
sorry silver star but u just makes the disscusion tough for me i just wanted u to give an answer ...............not to turn on me with the other guys in many other disscusions

[Antiyonder]

sorry silver star but u just makes the disscusion tough for me i just wanted u to give an answer ...............not to turn on me with the other guys in many other disscusions

I didn't see him insulting you. The question just came across as a random one, and he wanted to understand why you chose the characters in question.

[bishospidey]

I didn't see him insulting you. The question just came across as a random one, and he wanted to understand why you chose the characters in question.


:confused: Um, how was my politely asking you to explain the purpose of your thread and the correlation between your random choosing of characters "disturbing you"?

Really, I'd truly like to know..
because in many other websites i put this same thread and many people answered that spider man & night crawler would clame the prize then the thing would be 2nd,iron man and cap the 3rd & at last beast the 4th so i just wanted to know this sites answers

[bishospidey]

Oh, look, another more than effective team leader:

http://gargoyles.dracandros.com/w/images/9/9f/HunterRobyn.JPG

There is nothing wrong with a woman leading a team.
yea, but only on hard times not always

[bishospidey]

:confused: Um, how was my politely asking you to explain the purpose of your thread and the correlation between your random choosing of characters "disturbing you"?

Really, I'd truly like to know.



Dude, I'm not even female and I found what you just said here to be extremely chauvinistic. And to that I'd just like to point out that:

Storm has led the X-Men's Gold Team during the 90's comics, and remains the X-Men's sub-leader after Cyclops (IIRC).
Vindicator's wife Guardian was leader of Alpha Flight for a time.
Susan Storm-Richards has led the Fantastic Four on numerous occasions, and is to this day considered to be one of the most powerful and formidable women in the Marvel universe.-So it would seem that Marvel doesn't share your assessment that women don't make effective leaders.

Truthfully, which character would make an effective commander and which characters would not depends on the individual character, not that character's gender.
only on hard times and not always

[En Sabah Nur]

only on hard times and not alwaysThe Mighty Avengers are being led by Ms. Marvel.

[GregX]

yea, but only on hard times not always

.... What does that mean?

[wonderfly]

.... What does that mean?

I'm just taking a guess here, but to use the instances by Silverstar, typically the female "team leaders", (such as the Invisilbe Woman and Guardian) only step up to take command of the team when the regular leader is out of commision. Thus, the "hard times" being that the regular leader is not commanding...


The Mighty Avengers are being led by Ms. Marvel.

Isn't Iron Man the leader of that team? At the very least, he's undermined Ms. Marvel's authority at times...

[Antiyonder]

Oh, look, another more than effective team leader:

http://gargoyles.dracandros.com/w/images/9/9f/HunterRobyn.JPG

There is nothing wrong with a woman leading a team.

yea, but only on hard times not always

Actually, she's leader from the beginning.

[AlgeaX]

Dude, I'm not even female and I found what you just said here to be extremely chauvinistic. And to that I'd just like to point out that:

Storm has led the X-Men's Gold Team during the 90's comics, and remains the X-Men's sub-leader after Cyclops (IIRC).
Vindicator's wife Guardian was leader of Alpha Flight for a time.
Susan Storm-Richards has led the Fantastic Four on numerous occasions, and is to this day considered to be one of the most powerful and formidable women in the Marvel universe.-So it would seem that Marvel doesn't share your assessment that women don't make effective leaders.

Truthfully, which character would make an effective commander and which characters would not depends on the individual character, not that character's gender.

Don't forget Janet "the Wasp" Van Dyne, one of best Avengers Chairman ever. It says something that she's the only real competition that Cap's ever had for that role.

[En Sabah Nur]

I'm just taking a guess here, but to use the instances by Silverstar, typically the female "team leaders", (such as the Invisilbe Woman and Guardian) only step up to take command of the team when the regular leader is out of commision. Thus, the "hard times" being that the regular leader is not commanding...



Isn't Iron Man the leader of that team? At the very least, he's undermined Ms. Marvel's authority at times...Um, no, He appointed her as the team leader. He only undermined her authority with his status as Director of SHIELD, when they went to fight Doom, and the Secret Invasion, because he can not trust anyone but himself.

[JAG]

Well, if by "toughest" you mean "most powerful", then probably the Thing. But, as has already been said, Cap or Iron Man are better suited for command.

[bishospidey]

Well, if by "toughest" you mean "most powerful", then probably the Thing. But, as has already been said, Cap or Iron Man are better suited for command.
i mean with toughest :the best in every thing(in the battle field)

[The CN WB Kid]

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