Greg Weisman on Spidey's Powers.

[GregX]

Well, you say his powers have been watered down, but I say his powers have been put back to where they started in the early Lee/Ditko comics. Potato/Potahto, except we both know it matters more than that, right?

Spidey has the proportionate strength of a spider still, and I can't say how you can see our show and not feel he has spider-reflexes. But I've never bought into the notion, despite what's been written by individual writers in things like the Marvel Universe Handbook -- and this from a guy who once wrote multiple, multiple entries of DC Comics' Who's Who -- that Spidey is one of the strongest guys around. He's stronger than a normal human, certainly. Considerably stronger. But he's not Hulk; he's not Rhino; he's not as strong as Doc Ock's arms. He's about at Gobby level, in my mind. Even a quote-unquote normal human like Ox, for whom strength is his main claim to fame, can challenge him. Again, all you have to do is look at the early Lee/Ditko issues to see that's how Spidey started. And that's how I think he should stay -- at least as long as he's still so young, physically immature and inexperienced. Which is not to say you haven't seen and won't continue to see feats of strength in coming episodes and especially in Season Two. But Spidey's never been about the strength, and I think it's flat out WRONG to make him too strong, so to speak. Frankly, I'd rather see him overpowered, than over-powered.

Spider-Sense is another ability that I think has, over the years, been abused as well. Pete was bit by a spider, not by a psychic. If you buy the notion of SPIDER-sense at all, you need it to fit with (at best) our perception of what a SPIDER can do. So in our show, Pete can only anticipate an incoming blow. That to me, is key. Pete could walk right by a serial killer with a chainsaw hidden under a trenchcoat and not feel a buzz, unless the guy took a swing at him. (Again, he's not psychic. He doesn't have a built-in EVIL SENSOR.) Because having spider-sense is NEW to Pete, he's not even that great at taking advantage of it now. We've decided that his spider-sense doesn't go off (or at any rate it's too low a level to bother with) when he can see the danger right in front of him. That would be redundant. And unless there's a lot of anticipation to a blow coming from an unseen source, he just may not get enough warning or information. Often the warning comes too late for him to react. Often the warning comes. But it's generic. He knows he's about to get slammed - but doesn't know from where. (It's just a tingling sensation. It can't talk to him and give him more information.) I won't deny that some writers -- including, on occasion, Stan -- have in fact turned spider-sense into an all-purpose evil sensor. But personally I don't buy it.

Of course, you're more than welcome to disagree with me. But I think you can see that there's at least a logic to our choices.

And for the record, all of the above was laid out in our series bible -- long before a single episode was ever written, boarded or animated. And that bible was vetted and approved by Marvel. They had every right -- not to mention responsibility -- to disagree with me and insist on a different approach to protect the integrity of the character. But there were no disagreements. We talked it over and concurred. These decisions weren't made lightly.

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[Hypestyle]

interesting.. :)

[Ykwia]

Really.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

Fantastic read.

[Captain Highwind]

In all honesty the spider-sense should just go away, but that's just me.

The comics can give him arm-spears, the ability to talk to spiders, but still forgetting to tackle that one plot-hole liability that's been staring them in the face for years...

[Reg]

Nice read. I think Greg and co. have done an excellent job of handling Spidey's powers on this show.

[theRedDeath]

In the Sandman episode Spider-man lifted a steel girder above his head and smashed Sandman with it. I think that's a pretty good level of strength for Spider-man, I don't know where all this controversy is coming from.

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[Peter Paltridge]

In all honesty the spider-sense should just go away, but that's just me.
I see nothing wrong with it in moderation, like Weisman's idea. Consider this: in just about every action show you've ever seen, villains shoot bullets at the hero and every single one misses. This is the only character that has a plausible excuse for that.

Also, Spidey's private and super lives are so detatched that it's not a good idea to make it easy to injure him. He can't come home a bloody mess all the time or people will ask questions.

[W.C.Reaf]

In the Sandman episode Spider-man lifted a steel girder above his head and smashed Sandman with it. I think that's a pretty good level of strength for Spider-man, I don't know where all this controversy is coming from.

Super strength is an all purpose plot device that can have a character hold up a building and then have trouble lifting a car.

We've seen Spidey hold up the Daily Bugle building to stop it collapsing in the comics. So some people complain when he isn't shown with that level of strength all the time.

[Donomark]

I agree...mostly. I know where the guy comes from but I feel he's been taken in by a lot of recent comics where Spidey's lost to guys he shouldn't have lost to. That or Ult. Spider-Man. IMO, OX, while strong and tough, should NOT be stronger than Peter is right now, especially if Peter's going at 100% where he tends to get stronger than he usually is at the time. Doc Ock's arms, fine. Rhino, fine. He's absolutley right, Spidey is far from the strongest guy in the Marvel universe. But he does have SUPER STRENGTH. The early comics were, to put it in the plainest terms, first run throughs at villains. Subsequent issues have shown that Ox really can't outfight Spider-Man in a straight one-on-one fight. Then again, Spidey was much older and more experienced. Again, I get what Wesiman's getting at, but I hope he doesn't lose sight and take away Peter's strength to the point where he's not Spider-Man anymore. I don't think he will, but it sounds as though he's running that risk.

[Funkatron]

Who in the world thought Spidey was underpowered? Compared to him not even able to throw a punch in the 90's toon, this Spider-man is pretty powerful to me.

[Miyamoto Musashi]

We've seen Spidey hold up the Daily Bugle building to stop it collapsing in the comics. So some people complain when he isn't shown with that level of strength all the time.
Howard Mackie explained by Spider-Man's words that Peter was only supporting a beam (a column actually), if not for the rest of the iron columns were still intact the building would collapse and the part Spider-Man was holding (don't know the size size and shape exactly) would be separated from the rest of the falling building.

By the way, Spidey was happy with OX that he didn't have to pull punches when fighting him, but never lost to him nor to Fancy Daniel.

[W.C.Reaf]

Howard Mackie explained by Spider-Man's words that Peter was only supporting a beam (a column actually), if not for the rest of the iron columns were still intact the building would collapse and the part Spider-Man was holding (don't know the size size and shape exactly) would be separated from the rest of the falling building.

Yes but he was still stopping the building from collapsing, even if he was taking place of a beam. That's still an incredible feat of strength no matter how you justify it.

[Ed Liu]

At the end of the day, it's their show and they can write Spidey however they like. I think their rules are sensible, but I wasn't aware there was an issue with people making Spider-Man "one of the strongest guys around." One of the things that's always defined him is that he's been stronger than the average schmoe, but noticeably weaker than most of his enemies. Characters like the Rhino, the Scorpion, Doc Ock, Venom, and maybe even the Green Goblin were all stronger than Spidey, so he'd never be able to just punch them through a wall and cash the check for the photo at the Daily Bugle. The only major Spidey villains I can think of that are weaker are Kraven the Hunter and the Vulture.

Where I think SSM differs from other Spidey shows and even the current comics is that there's a general de-powering happening across the board. I remember Spidey's first OHOTMU (Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe -- good thing I didn't have to type THAT out :p) entry saying Spidey could press about 10 tons, which puts him far weaker than heavy hitters like the Thing (85 tons) or the Hulk (90-100, or unlimited if he's angry enough) but far, far stronger than characters like Wolverine or Captain America (500lbs and 800lbs, respectively..and I am sad that I can still remember things like this). It sounds like there's been a power drop by about an order of magnitude, where Spidey might get outclassed by an Olympic powerlifter. If their model is Stan & Steve's comics, then this makes sense, since their power drop also seems to gel with the way that superheroes generally get more powerful as time goes on.

The use of spider-sense is sensible enough, though. In addition to the cases where a writer will make it the all-purpose "get Spidey out of trouble" power, there are also times where they'll forget about it entirely and let Spidey get beaned by something he should have been warned about. At least they're thinking about that from the start.

-- Ed

[Donomark]

Spidey's stronger than the Chameleon, Kraven, Vulture, Electro, Mysterio, all three Green Goblins, Shocker, Hobgoblin, The Jury, Paste Pot Pete/The Trapster, The Enforcers, Boomerang, Jack O'Lantern, Kangaroo, Hypno Hustler, The Spot, Grey Goiblin, Gaunt, Mindworm, The Rose, Ringer, Solo, Cardiac, Sin Eater, Shriek, The Forienger, Grim Hunter, Chance and the Gibbon

Venom, Carnage, Morbius, Morlun, Tombstone, Rhino, Scorpion, Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Hydro-Man, Will O'The Wisp, Kaine, Spider-Cide, the Spider-Slayers, Molten Man, The Lizard, Stegron, Hammerhead, DemoGoblin, and vermin are all physically stronger than Spider-Man.

[StormBlue]

Thanks GregX for sharing this with the forum. I tend to agree on a lot of what was said.

My favorite quote is "Pete was bit by a spider, not a psychic" in addition to "Again, he's not psychic. He doesn't have a built-in EVIL SENSOR."

Good stuff.

[TwoFaced_Dark24]

Spidey's stronger than the Chameleon, Kraven, Vulture, Electro, Mysterio, all three Green Goblins, Shocker, Hobgoblin, The Jury, Paste Pot Pete/The Trapster, The Enforcers, Boomerang, Jack O'Lantern, Kangaroo, Hypno Hustler, The Spot, Grey Goiblin, Gaunt, Mindworm, The Rose, Ringer, Solo, Cardiac, Sin Eater, Shriek, The Forienger, Grim Hunter, Chance and the Gibbon

Venom, Carnage, Morbius, Morlun, Tombstone, Rhino, Scorpion, Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Hydro-Man, Will O'The Wisp, Kaine, Spider-Cide, the Spider-Slayers, Molten Man, The Lizard, Stegron, Hammerhead, DemoGoblin, and vermin are all physically stronger than Spider-Man.

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[CartoonOverlord]

All the Spidey fanboys are probably going to tar and feather me because of this, but I hate the web-shooters, I always have. For the longest time when I was a kid I actually thought that shooting webs was actually one of Spidey's powers, once I learned that wasn't the case I was really disappointed. I mean the guy's Spider-Man; he should be able to fire off webs naturally. Plus, how he makes them is just one big plot-hole, he couldn't possibly make something as good as his webs with how dirt poor he always is. I don't see how Stan Lee and his buddies ever thought that was a good idea.

Anyway I liked what the movies did with having the webs being his actual powers but I’m disappointed that Spectacular Spider-Man uses the web-shooters. Everything else with Spidey in the show is all good, the web-shooters are my only complaint.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

All the Spidey fanboys are probably going to tar and feather me because of this, but I hate the web-shooters, I always have. For the longest time when I was a kid I actually thought that shooting webs was actually one of Spidey's powers, once I learned that wasn't the case I was really disappointed. I mean the guy's Spider-Man; he should be able to fire off webs naturally. Plus, how he makes them is just one big plot-hole, he couldn't possibly make something as good as his webs with how dirt poor he always is. I don't see how Stan Lee and his buddies ever thought that was a good idea.

Anyway I liked what the movies did with having the webs being his actual powers but I’m disappointed that Spectacular Spider-Man uses the web-shooters. Everything else with Spidey in the show is all good, the web-shooters are my only complaint.

Actually, I completely agree with you. Web-shooters are about as plausible as Harry being the Green Goblin.

[Sonic_Eclipse]

Gotta agree with you CartoonOverlord on the web-shooters.

I myself always thought the web-shooters should have always been organic. It just make more sense that way, why would the radioactive spider bite give him the ability to cling to walls, spider-strength, and spider-sense, but not the ability to spin his own webs? Everytime I ask this question people always tell me, "Because, spider's spin their web from their ass." or "the web-shooters show us how smart Peter is."

Peter maybe smart but, he isn't exactly Bruce Wayne, so how does Peter get the money to make the web-shooter's and the web-fluid? Surely the cost for Peter to keep making these things are expensive, so how can he afford to make them when he never seems to have any money. Don't get me wrong, the web-shooters are defenately a cool idea, but it just doesn't make sense when it comes to Peter's financial problems.

Organic webbing just makes more sense and gives Peter another power. I was glad to hear that Sony was using organic web-shooters for the movies. I was hoping they'd be organic in Spectacular Spider-Man.

I also agree with Greg's thoughts on spider-sense.

[Nightwing]

LOTS of stuff I just NEED to comment on, but frankly Greg Weisman is not one of them. Mr. Weisman, I don't know who you think you're in trouble with, but even though my opinions may (possibly) differ from yours on some topics, there's nothing you're doing wrong with Peter's powers.

I was actually thinking about this topic earlier today with regard to Superman. Clark started off fighting nothing more than what was infront of him, like being involved in WWII for example. I just think that collectively, as a character, his powers grew from there. He may not have been able to plow through a planet back then, but creative minds and opportunities just presented themselves over the years. Of course, it's a good idea not to go overboard! ;)

STRENGTH:
I thought SpidermanTAS did very well showing me that Spiderman has super strength, but he isn't (and shouldn't be) The Hulk or Ben Grimm. In that cartoon, he could pretty much lift a car, but only off the ground or over his head, not necessarily as a technique he could easily execute in a fight. 1-2 tons? That seems right, but not for a 16 year old who just got his powers a few months ago, of course!

SPIDER SENSE

If Spider-sense has been abused over the years then I appologize on behalf of whom ever did the writing, but Martianinvader is right. In moderation with solid rules that you don't bend or break (which is not difficult to adhere to) Spider-sense is fun!! Logic can then be easily applied. For example, it doesn't go off with EVERY attack, especially ones he CONSCIOUSLY sees. That's simple logic any fan would be able to apply simply by watching him in action.

Mr. Weisman also has another point that I never minded, but I'll go with him on it. That serial killer hiding a chainsaw thing was big decades ago. If something like that was INDIRECTLY wrong, his Spider-sense still would go off. Like I said, I didn't mind, but hey Greg wants to be consistent, so that's not a problem. All of his big decisions are based on logic and Spiderman's character, so it's really not hard to see. :)


Also, Spidey's private and super lives are so detatched that it's not a good idea to make it easy to injure him. He can't come home a bloody mess all the time or people will ask questions.

Well I might disagree with you there. The way to get angst in Peter's life is to in fact do stuff like that too him and force him to deal with it. For example, in Ultimate Spiderman when he got shot one time. Dun duuuun! Granted, that's just about writing and not about his level of super strength.


Who in the world thought Spidey was underpowered? Compared to him not even able to throw a punch in the 90's toon, this Spider-man is pretty powerful to me.

I'd call that censorship more than I would Super Strength. In THIS particular case it's about power, not strength, and the fact that all the idiot suits have it, making decisions that they pull from their rear ends.


All the Spidey fanboys are probably going to tar and feather me because of this, but I hate the web-shooters, I always have.

I can understand that, but I was always under the impression that his powers included some extra knowledge boost on how a human could make such a thing. That way it's exclusive only to him, ya know?

Besides, I've made this point so many times, but quite frankly, if his web shooters are organic, and part of his natural super powers, then why is it they are so conveniently placed in his wrists? Plus it's quite gross. It almost feels like it makes him less human

Actual webshooters are just another delve into the delicious world of how it's good to love science, and I've always loved that about Peter/Spiderman.

[W.C.Reaf]

LOTS of stuff I just NEED to comment on, but frankly Greg Weisman is not one of them. Mr. Weisman, I don't know who you think you're in trouble with, but even though my opinions may (possibly) differ from yours on some topics, there's nothing you're doing wrong with Peter's powers.

If you click the link GregX provided you'll see he's replying to this:


I've got to ask though, where is the super strength and spider-sense reflexes? I've seen plenty of web shooting, wall-crawling, agility and did I say web shooting? I just feel those two traits were lacking in the fights he had with Ox, Fancy Dan, and just recently, Tombstone. I'm all for the hero being challenged and all, but not as a result of his powers being watered down. Will we get to see just how strong someone who possesses the proportionate strength of a Spider can be in future episodes?

[DawnWarrior]

I like it, especially the part about all this planned out in the series bible. Sounds like a guy who runs his show with discipline, research, and respect for the source material.

[GregX]

All the Spidey fanboys are probably going to tar and feather me because of this, but I hate the web-shooters, I always have. For the longest time when I was a kid I actually thought that shooting webs was actually one of Spidey's powers, once I learned that wasn't the case I was really disappointed. I mean the guy's Spider-Man; he should be able to fire off webs naturally. Plus, how he makes them is just one big plot-hole, he couldn't possibly make something as good as his webs with how dirt poor he always is. I don't see how Stan Lee and his buddies ever thought that was a good idea.

Anyway I liked what the movies did with having the webs being his actual powers but I’m disappointed that Spectacular Spider-Man uses the web-shooters. Everything else with Spidey in the show is all good, the web-shooters are my only complaint.

Wouldn't the webbing shoot out of his ass?

[Tash]

I myself always thought the web-shooters should have always been organic. It just make more sense that way, why would the radioactive spider bite give him the ability to cling to walls, spider-strength, and spider-sense, but not the ability to spin his own webs? Everytime I ask this question people always tell me, "Because, spider's spin their web from their ass." or "the web-shooters show us how smart Peter is."
The main problem is that organtic webbing doesn't let Peter switch web types.

[creativerealms]

Wouldn't the webbing shoot out of his ass?

No since the webbing of real spiders does not come out of their asses but of a sperate gland that happens to be possitioned in that relitive area because for regular Spiders thats the most logical place. Spiderman got spiderpowers modified for a human, which is why he did not grow four more limbs. The web glans would also be placed in a spot more suitable for humans which is why for me the hands makes sense.

I had no problem with web shooters until the comic came up with the lame explanation that the Spider Bite gave him the knowledge to create the web shooters.

Personally i like Organic Webbing and the Web shooters the same but for different reasons.

[sdp]

I'm surprised this was written as I've heard no complain whatsoever. His strength seems fine and I haven't even noticed the spider-sense being used if it has. I don't hate it but I obviously didn't care enough that I completely forgot.

I also thought spidermans web was a superpower and didn't realize it wasn't until the 90s show and I like it. It also makes sense that the spider bite didn't complete him as a spider so he invented something to go with his superhero persona. I mean just because batman is batman doesn't mean he can fly or see without his eyes..

[Aldrius]

Wouldn't the webbing shoot out of his ass?

It would shoot out of his abdomen.

...which he doesn't have.

[Nightwing]

No since the webbing of real spiders does not come out of their asses but of a sperate gland that happens to be possitioned in that relitive area because for regular Spiders thats the most logical place. Spiderman got spiderpowers modified for a human, which is why he did not grow four more limbs. The web glans would also be placed in a spot more suitable for humans which is why for me the hands makes sense.

I had no problem with web shooters until the comic came up with the lame explanation that the Spider Bite gave him the knowledge to create the web shooters.

Personally i like Organic Webbing and the Web shooters the same but for different reasons.


It would shoot out of his abdomen.

...which he doesn't have.

Sure he does. Your abdomen is in the middle of your torso. And boy would that look weird! I understand the Spider Powers being "complete in a human form" like creativerelms says, but it's still weird and gross. I mean what would Mary Jane think when she went to hold his hand or whatever, knowing he has that strange whatever inside his wrists. Bleck! I still prefer the scientific approach. This is a hero that doesn't have powers or whatever just handed to him, unless there's a price.

And since different things vary with different spiders, it's hard to say what's what. So I always saw it as Stan picked what would be the most fun and most unique aspects that you could get from a Spider. Those pre-cog spiders that can jump away before you can blink right when you swat at them are quite a challenge.

[TheVileOne]

It's been suggested in the comics, which was appropriated in the 90's TV show, that the spider bite somehow inspired Peter how to figure out how to make a web fluid.

In the 90's TV show, Spider-man would have to figure out ways how to make different types of web fluid to dispatch his enemies. It was usually a good plot device when he would run out of web fluid, it doesn't work, or his shooters would break.

Around the time of the second movie, they gave Spider-man organic webs in the comics. Then they got rid of them a couple years later.

[kid rabbit]

spider man has always been the underdog of super heros his powers aren't invinsable but he never gives up even fighting villens who are stronger(rhino and juggernaut) or have more resouses(green goblin)

[warnerbroman]

All the Spidey fanboys are probably going to tar and feather me because of this, but I hate the web-shooters, I always have. For the longest time when I was a kid I actually thought that shooting webs was actually one of Spidey's powers, once I learned that wasn't the case I was really disappointed. I mean the guy's Spider-Man; he should be able to fire off webs naturally. Plus, how he makes them is just one big plot-hole, he couldn't possibly make something as good as his webs with how dirt poor he always is. I don't see how Stan Lee and his buddies ever thought that was a good idea.

Anyway I liked what the movies did with having the webs being his actual powers but I’m disappointed that Spectacular Spider-Man uses the web-shooters. Everything else with Spidey in the show is all good, the web-shooters are my only complaint.then should they not shoot out of his butt? oh they answered that nvm

WELL HIS SENSES SHOULD TELL HIM WHERE IT'S COMING FROM LIKE REAL SPIDERS AND FLYS *turns capslock off* sorry

[Ed Liu]

The web shooters always seem to bring up the same questions and the same jokes every single time they're brought up as implausible, but nobody's said anything new about either position for years. I have no problem just ignoring the fact that a kid could come up with the web fluid or that the organic version comes out of his wrists, and the "wouldn't the webs come out of his butt" joke is funny once and becomes very much less so the more times you hear it. I've heard it many, many, many times now.

Nearly everything that Greg W. says in the series bible makes me think that they just took the Stan & Steve comic books as the foundation for their show, updating some elements for a more modern era and throwing in a dash of Venom/symbiote (which is something I'd have been happy to delay until season 2, but they're not doing a bad job of it so far). That means Peter invents the web fluid and that's that. I look at it as one of the ground rules for the game, just like you have to accept that the most brilliant minds of the Marvel Universe can't figure out how to keep Bruce Banner from turning into the Hulk.

-- Ed

[Silverstar]

I look at (the implausibility of Spider-Man's web shooters) as one of the ground rules for the game, just like you have to accept that the most brilliant minds of the Marvel Universe can't figure out how to keep Bruce Banner from turning into the Hulk.

Or how none of the geniuses, scientists and sorcerers in Marvel can find a way to permanently restore Ben Grimm to his human form, or how with all of the sophisticated futuristic technology at the X-Men's disposal as well as their connections to gods and magicians, no one can think of a way to fix it so Rogue can touch people without absorbing their energy, etc., etc., etc.

Some things you just have to chalk up to "suspension of disbelief for the sake of storytelling".

[bigdeath]

Weisman has the right ideas and from what I've seen of the show so far he has my full confidence and I'm already looking foward to season 2.

[Nightwing]

Some things you just have to chalk up to "suspension of disbelief for the sake of storytelling".

I understand there are a lot of disagreements (although the one universally agreed item seems to be the job Greg Weisman is doing so that's good :)!) and I understand the other Marvel examples given, but I'm also very weary when it comes to that reasoning.

I feel like we're the representatives of a world that doesn't completely exist yet, in which Anime and Superheroes and comics are known, acknowledged, and therefore assimilated, by general pop culture minds. And the above reasoning, which occaisionally has to be used, could potentially cheapen that, in less compassionate eyes.

[Hypestyle]

hopefully the spider-powers will get expanded as the series goes on.. and we'll see more gadgets, etc.

[DawnWarrior]

Or how none of the geniuses, scientists and sorcerers in Marvel can find a way to permanently restore Ben Grimm to his human form, or how with all of the sophisticated futuristic technology at the X-Men's disposal as well as their connections to gods and magicians, no one can think of a way to fix it so Rogue can touch people without absorbing their energy, etc., etc., etc.

Some things you just have to chalk up to "suspension of disbelief for the sake of storytelling".
As well as "Maintaining the Sacred Status Quo."

[SpaceWay2008]

The main problem is that organic webbings doesn't let Peter switch web types. But if Peter did have organic webbing, wouldn't he be able to make different web types? I mean, Peter should be able to make different web types (size, shape, thickness, etc) with his mind - since the organic webbing is part of him.

Thanks for the link, GregX. I agree with Mr. Weisman. The spider-sense is not like a psychic ability. It should only go off if something endangers him without him consciously knowing. If Peter consciously sees danger or an attack, the spider-sense shouldn't go off.

[AlgeaX]

I feel like we're the representatives of a world that doesn't completely exist yet, in which Anime and Superheroes and comics are known, acknowledged, and therefore assimilated, by general pop culture minds. And the above reasoning, which occaisionally has to be used, could potentially cheapen that, in less compassionate eyes.

That kind of suspesion of disbelief is hardly unique to the superhero genre though. Pretty much every form of fiction known to man uses it to some extant or another. Even Shakespear wasn't immune to the occasional convieniant coincidence or minor plot hole.

[Wolf Boy2]

Wait, did I miss something? I thought SSM Spidey did have organic webs? At least, that's what the flashback in "Intervention" seemed to imply.

[W.C.Reaf]

Wait, did I miss something? I thought SSM Spidey did have organic webs? At least, that's what the flashback in "Intervention" seemed to imply.

Since we saw Webshooters appear on his wrists then I have no idea what you're talking about.

We've also seen him talking them off a couple of times, including the first episode, and him reloading in his first fight with the Goblin.

[Gokou Ruri]

But if Peter did have organic webbing, wouldn't he be able to make different web types? I mean, Peter should be able to make different web types (size, shape, thickness, etc) with his mind - since the organic webbing is part of him. I think he's thinking of instances like when Spidey put garlic in his webbing during the 90s show to fight Morbius, or some compound that absorbed moisture to capture Hydro-Man. Stuff like that.

[Wolf Boy2]

Since we saw Webshooters appear on his wrists then I have no idea what you're talking about.

We've also seen him talking them off a couple of times, including the first episode, and him reloading in his first fight with the Goblin.
LOL, you're right. I just re-watched the flashback and there were webshooters. IDK how I missed that.

As for him reloading, I don't remember that but you're probably right. I guess it showed how much I care. Personally, I prefer organic webs, but in the long run it doesn't matter a darn bit.

[Master Toon]

In all honesty the spider-sense should just go away, but that's just me.

I think his spider-sense makes him more unique from other superheroes and it makes sense because spiders kinda know if you're about to swat them and they'll crawl away, they aren't as alert as flies but still.


Peter maybe smart but, he isn't exactly Bruce Wayne

I beg to differ. I'd say that he's smarter than Bruce. Bruce is detective smart but is he science/technology smart? He does own lots of electronics and he has lots of gadgets but he mainly has someone else make them for him. Peter is known for his intelligence and it shows in his fights.


so how does Peter get the money to make the web-shooter's and the web-fluid? Surely the cost for Peter to keep making these things are expensive, so how can he afford to make them when he never seems to have any money. Don't get me wrong, the web-shooters are defenately a cool idea, but it just doesn't make sense when it comes to Peter's financial problems.

I guess he uses his money from the Bugle. Jameson may not be paying Peter a fortune but I'm pretty sure it's not just a few bucks. Think about it, Peter works at the Bugle to help out Aunt May and when he's on his own, he uses the money to stay in an apartment, so he's getting paid good.


Organic webbing just makes more sense and gives Peter another power. I was glad to hear that Sony was using organic web-shooters for the movies. I was hoping they'd be organic in Spectacular Spider-Man.

I like the organic webbing but at the same time I like the inorganic webbing as well. With the inorganic webbing he can mix different elements in with it to handle certain situations. Let's say the man of steel tries to fight Spidey, naturally Spidey put up a good fight but Supes would surely win in the end. But Spidey (with inorganic webbing) could put Kryptonite in his web shooters and take him down.

[batgirl2007]

Will Spidey ever use his spider tracers?

[DawnWarrior]

Will Spidey ever use his spider tracers?
Well, we've seen him use the spider-signal (in his fight against Doc Ock), so I'd bet it's only a matter of time. It might also be cool if we see him actually inventing the tracers and then using them for the first time.